assbot: BitBet - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination :: 10.24 B (57%) on Yes, 7.84 B (43%) on No | closing in 6 months 2 weeks | weight: 99`567 (100`000 to 1) ... (
http://bit.ly/1Pzg83A )
BingoBoingo: Yeah, Looks like it is just you and the smaller MPIF share betting on trump so far with everyone else offering odds
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 13:50:30; hdbuck: raspi + 3D printed case! they'll sell at least 100 of them, so that's around $1.2 million a piece to pay back the VCs. i am waiting for the « toasters » tho.
mircea_popescu: you don't pay the credit card, you move the balance on a bigger credit card. duh.
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 14:13:39; asciilifeform: if the protocol had been designed by sane people, ALL SIGNATURES WOULD HAVE SAME FORMAT regardless of for what the signature is - for a file, or for the key itself, whatever
mircea_popescu: and yes it will have to be redone if nothing else then for that reason.
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 14:20:54; asciilifeform: (a panel which fits on a passenger car roof - let's even assume one on the hood, as well - would be lucky to pick up 200W at high noon on a cloudless day.)
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 15:32:14; jurov: it would work fine with gpg mpex-style
mircea_popescu: if you are going to put something, put pgp. not pki, and in no case
http for a stateful machine.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9794 @ 0.0007319 = 7.1682 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00073785 = 2.8776 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: also the correct way to handle this is through some sort of repo agreement. "A agrees to receive any sums from B throughout today, Sept 25th, and remit no later than by Sept 26th, at 8:00 gmt at address so and so a sum of btc equal to : the sum of btc received ; plus the sum of X currency received divided by Vx ; plus the sum of Y currency received divided by Vy ; plus [etc]."
mircea_popescu: this way B can send any payments its customers want, and A will idem send whatever payments its customers want, and at the end of the day the whole balance is BTC settled at the agreed upon price and that's that.
mircea_popescu: it can just be published as an item, you don't even need a "connection" between the two.
mircea_popescu: in other news, the pin of the association of plastic surgeons from lima, peru depicts as a logo a stylisized cunt.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19049 @ 0.00073421 = 13.986 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: last fucking place you want the dudes to get involved, the cunt and the other set of labia.
mircea_popescu: hands off the functional parts, yo! stick to tits and hips and whatnot
BingoBoingo: It's nice that they put that warning up there
BingoBoingo: "Don't get anesthesia in Peru, They mess with the functional parts"
mircea_popescu: "Adopting Russian Orthodox Christian terminology for an important house of worship, the building is called the Moscow Cathedral Mosque. Its main golden dome and tall minaret reflected the style of many Orthodox churches, except for the Islamic crescents atop them."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00073761 = 14.494 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Nah, "Trend Piece" aka not news that sneaks into the news
mircea_popescu: Stroustrup said: “You can write C++ programs that are statically type safe and have no resource leaks. You can do that without loss of performance and without limiting C++’s expressive power. This supports the general thesis that garbage collection is neither necessary nor sufficient for quality software. Our core C++ guidelines makes such code simpler to write than older styles of C++ and the safety can be validat
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ed by tools that should soon be available as open source.”
mircea_popescu: check it out asciilifeform, "experts at Morgan Stanley" fixed the world!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26584 @ 0.00073785 = 19.615 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 21:27:23; Pierre_Rochard: sad day, could’ve been a great business…
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 21:29:38; phf: ascii_field, mircea_popescu, et al: i've been experimenting with idea of trusted nodes in bitcoind. so far: address has levels of trust, ultimate, trusted and untrusted. adding an address with -connect gives it ultimate trust, with -addnode makes it trusted, otherwise (reported by other nodes, random connections, etc.) are untrusted. nodes have the same level of trust as their addresses. trusted nodes (i.e. bot
mircea_popescu: but on the subject : the only thing that matters is the value transferred. any other approach is a waste of time.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: you gotta meter what txn they pass you and score them.
phf: mircea_popescu: it's already done! afaik ben_vulpes and gernika both have a mac built using my approach
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 21:54:55; phf: well, the patch gives special status to ips that were explicitly provided. if you're being mitm'd, your only recourse is operator intervention, the goal of the patch was to ensure that your recourse does not automatically become "use random shmoe"
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 21:57:49; ascii_field: but that is not an adult answer.
mod6: oh speaking of eulora, is the new version out?
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 22:12:13; ascii_field: (eatblock is a locking operation)
mircea_popescu: machine can not do anything else during, if you're say making a large tarball at the same time odds are you'll cry.
☟︎ mod6: so asciilifeform & mircea_popescu, I added a sync mechinism for V. but wanted to discuss it a bit, not sure if it's whats really ideal or anything.
☟︎ mod6: this way when one clicks on a node in the directed grap (from before), it takes you to the actual vpatch. anyway...
mod6: one possibility to publish releases in the future now that we have V is to create a manifest of V patches and have the co-chairs sign the manifest, as well as the patches.
☟︎ mod6: So I added subroutines to pull all patches, wots and seals from the foundation site, and/or audit what's already local by checking the local vpatch hashes against the manifest.
mod6: or you can pull individual patches if one likes.
mircea_popescu: phf you gonna get in game to get your pile of woooly shrooms ?
mod6: (incase there are patches added to the site webdirectory that are not included in the release manifest)
mod6: also, i'm leaving some room here for mirrors.
phf: mircea_popescu: yes, once i do the publishing
mod6: we could have a signed list of mirrors in the same location as the manifest so that there is some redundancy
mod6: anyway sorry for the verbosity, thanks for listening. just wanted to see if I was on the right track before I get too far along.
mod6: ty, having fun building it. :]
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:22:51; mircea_popescu: machine can not do anything else during, if you're say making a large tarball at the same time odds are you'll cry.
mircea_popescu: yeah but they were "oh, you know what, sigs for THIS really need to be dependably known"
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:13:17; mircea_popescu: Stroustrup said: “You can write C++ programs that are statically type safe and have no resource leaks. You can do that without loss of performance and without limiting C++’s expressive power. This supports the general thesis that garbage collection is neither necessary nor sufficient for quality software. Our core C++ guidelines makes such code simpler to write than older styles of C++ and the safety
mircea_popescu: in any case : one of the things i'd like to see is non-familiar stuff.
assbot: Logged on 28-09-2013 09:10:42; mircea_popescu: my current curiosity in the field is why isn't cramer–shoup more widely usedf.
mircea_popescu: i saw it in the logs. i dun know what to say of this as of yet.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:17:01; mircea_popescu: but on the subject : the only thing that matters is the value transferred. any other approach is a waste of time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i get it, you want encrypted channel for bitcoind
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2015 03:09:44; mircea_popescu: BitPay will soon be dead. They probably make $1000 per month revenue and burn around $500K.
mircea_popescu: (hint : they spent it ALL on trying to give people just like you the illusion that mansions, and lizard hitler.
mircea_popescu: just like the spam "mmwys" kids spend it all on trying to give other jerky teenagers the illusion that "mmwys".)
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:25:01; mod6: so asciilifeform & mircea_popescu, I added a sync mechinism for V. but wanted to discuss it a bit, not sure if it's whats really ideal or anything.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> why would an outfit like bitpay even have expenses on top of bandwidth ? << Their office is literally around the block from a hooters knockoff that does pizza instead of wings. They spent on location
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Needed physical office for stotting
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if i sign on gavin's dumbass "proposal", it's directly obvious to anyone what happened.
mircea_popescu: if gallippi wants to play the adult and "sign declarations", what's that mean ?
mircea_popescu: "some bum said some things nobody card about" ? he doesn't want it to be like that.
mircea_popescu: he wants to pretend he's sorta kinda like me, were i to exist (which i don't, OOOOBVIOUSLY). so...
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:27:12; mod6: one possibility to publish releases in the future now that we have V is to create a manifest of V patches and have the co-chairs sign the manifest, as well as the patches.
Pierre_Rochard: BingoBoingo: rent wasn’t actually that much, ~3 people’s salaries. Employed ~70 people
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought he just meant signing patches.
BingoBoingo: Pierre_Rochard: Interesting. I would have thought nice place downtown in the cool area would have cost more.
mod6: asciilifeform: hey, thanks for your input/thoughts there.
mircea_popescu: no, just make a special patch (for historical reasons called a manifest) that does exactly what you describe
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you don't understand. it's not the place that's cheap
mircea_popescu: it's dumbass "employees" doing nothing that are EXPENSIVE
mircea_popescu: could have had a stable of indians doing the same job for 1.5% of the cost and 0.0x% of the liabilities.
mod6: right, i want the sync mech to work inside of the bounds of V.
Pierre_Rochard: asciilifeform: no indians, a few argentinians (great devs fwiw)
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 11:28:01; mircea_popescu: which is weird because where the fuck would she get moneyz.
mircea_popescu: except no big tits, no nude at home, and no eating dogfood. just, derpage and pretense.
mod6: ok so. release vpatch would be creating a new vertex that has edges coming from the current leafs.
mod6: am I understanding that correctly?
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard yes, there are some passible webdevs in argentina.
mod6: appreciate the input here, im gonna ponder this for a bit.
mircea_popescu: sciencehatesyouSorry for your loss 2 points 58 minutes ago This is sad, and it's just a shitpost from Mircea the Rapist's QNTRA << check it out, sciencehatesme.
mircea_popescu: anyway. all the derps that wanna say things about how a non-bitcoin company's management reflects poorly on anything but the well known, amply documented and oft discussed ineptitude of the VC circus : feel free to suck a cock.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00073439 = 30.1834 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Bitcoin payments pioneer BitPay raises record $30M in Series A led by Index Ventures | Index Ventures ... (
http://bit.ly/1KTpPdl )
mircea_popescu: With total accumulated investment reaching $32.7M, BitPay has now raised more venture funding than any other bitcoin startup. << this is drastically false.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49058 @ 0.00073174 = 35.8977 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: and this doesn't mean, pick up your hair artist best friend and promote him.
assbot: You have not rated crescendo.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26361 @ 0.00073842 = 19.4655 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: !rate crescendo -1 Aka Eric Martindale. Nice job trying to sell me/MPEx bitpay shares a week before information was to come out that'd render them worthless. Say hello to Daphna for me.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.crescendo.-1:2aea276f4b159d2520ba164116a6cbd83cc0b987fb7d716a7c0578da4f9d1feb
assbot: Successfully added a rating of -1 for crescendo with note: Aka Eric Martindale. Nice job trying to sell me/MPEx bitpay shares a week before information was to come out that'd render them worthless. Say hello to Daphna for me.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, pdf reads better as it is clear where the blackouts are (everywhere), perhaps i should've taken screencaps instead
mircea_popescu: let them fucking explain where the words went, what do you care.
mircea_popescu: in other news, the "strategic superiority rehash" thing is like the most read trilema article. i don't think this ever happened before for a day old item.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 02:33:13; mircea_popescu: check it out, they learned how to link !
cazalla: asciilifeform, i'd say someone slipped it past the editor and it will later be removed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16650 @ 0.00074057 = 12.3305 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: a.disquscdn.com ; api.coindesk.com ; api.tumra.com ; as.ebz.io ; asset.pagefair.com ; b.scorecardresearch.com ; cas.criteo.com ; cdn.taboola.com ; d3ewslr5655zon.cloudfront.net ; hello.myfonts.net ; i.skimresources.com ; loadus.exelator.com ; partner.googleadservices.com ; pixel.quantserve.com ; tpc.googlesyndication.com ; www.google-analytics.com ; www.reddit.com
mircea_popescu: it's like... at some point it's gonna be easier to specify which you're not pulling in.
mircea_popescu: "the lower price actually helps to more evenly distribute ETH."
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Do you mind me asking how long ago he tried to sell those?
assbot: Eyewitness: People Walking Out of BitPay Office in Tears (Confirmed by BitPay Investor Khan's rag) : bitcoinxt ... (
http://bit.ly/1KTtN5Q )
assbot: Bitcoin Is Left a Wallflower as Banks Borrow Some of Its Features to Boost Efficiency | MIT Technology Review ... (
http://bit.ly/1KTtOXk )
mircea_popescu: hey mit... it's not my fault you were left a wallflower.
mircea_popescu: a) shouldn't have got fat ; b) when the other sluts went to the twerking class, you should have been there already.
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 233.33, vol: 19601.02958393 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 232.899, vol: 6645.20581 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 233.53, vol: 15361.62812544 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 244.99, vol: 0.487 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 236.512416, vol: 20525.26750000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 234.0, vol: 112.30187716 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 236.80397766, vol: 81.62296501 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: Looks like Fall drama season is in full swing everywhere but exchange reported prices
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00073735 = 23.2265 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Looks kinda flat, but I guess one could say up 10% from some chosen marker
BingoBoingo: Just seems to be stuck in this range of prices
assbot: Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
assbot: I thought I told you not to touch me.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00073821 = 25.6159 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: it doesn't show up if it doesn't trade within the mointh.
BingoBoingo: Ah, just the orderbook looks like it moved
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14476 @ 0.00073602 = 10.6546 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up brg444 You need the key to up yourself
BingoBoingo: Perhaps if away and with urgent business use a nick like brg444_AtBar ?
brg444: says there is supposedly a BTC exchange in Switzerland moving more BTC than all exchanges combined but staying on the low because of FATCA
brg444: (obviously that would likely not include MPEX)
cazalla: brg444, obviously it's only smellz
brg444: judging by the way he was going in on the lad likely the smell he refers to is Gavin :D
brg444: about that, of course "there is nothing new in this world" but I thought this part was particularly lulzy : dude was having lunch with the power rangers (adam back, gmaxwell & gavin) and asked "why do we hire Bitcoin" to which Back & Maxwell replied "monetary sovereignty" and Gavin "because I feel warm and fuzzy when I make a payment".. smh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40450 @ 0.0007407 = 29.9613 BTC [+]
cazalla: brg444, i listened to this podcast a little but it seemed to be not much more than an avenue to market whatever junk he has invested ein
mod6: asciilifeform: ok, done this now. created 'test-release.vpatch' which has incoming edges from all current leaves; this was a decent test for my code too.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42500 @ 0.00073287 = 31.147 BTC [-] {3}
brg444: cazalla, well he's wrong on a couple of things but I think it is a valuable service to remind everyone of why Bitcoin is there and how much money was wasted targeting broken business plans
☟︎ brg444: (although it does look funny in the light now considering he's an investor in Bitpay)
brg444: I don't recall him pushing any service or company...
brg444: anyways, thought there was some interesting nuggets in there (switzerland exchange and the little bit about how Venezuelans using BTC to escape capital control)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22493 @ 0.00074003 = 16.6455 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5475 @ 0.00073025 = 3.9981 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51950 @ 0.00073593 = 38.2316 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52026 @ 0.00072939 = 37.9472 BTC [-] {3}
cazalla: ;;later tell brg444 when i said this podcast, i meant his podcast, not that specific one you linked to on jewtube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00073593 = 8.316 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41950 @ 0.00072919 = 30.5895 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46900 @ 0.00072911 = 34.1953 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47196 @ 0.00072908 = 34.4097 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00072908 = 14.2171 BTC [-]
punkman: 2005: look at this, I can get my toaster to run Linux! / 2015: bleh, my toaster runs Linux / 2025: I wish I could get a toaster without Linux
☟︎ fluffypony: punkman: the "retro" crap has already started, have you seen that Casio calculator that was released?
punkman: fluffypony: does it run android?
fluffypony: it's "retro" because it's just a calculator
fluffypony: no I know, I'm just saying that the "I wish I could get a toaster without Linux" movement has already started :-P
punkman: you got a point there, but perhaps the movement always exists, a counterweight to "progress"
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 02:29:07; mircea_popescu: !rate crescendo -1 Aka Eric Martindale. Nice job trying to sell me/MPEx bitpay shares a week before information was to come out that'd render them worthless. Say hello to Daphna for me.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19350 @ 0.00072955 = 14.1168 BTC [+]
cazalla: that is the second time today i've seen manuls
punkman: "People finding xss in sites and contacting them to see if they have bounties are the equiv of homeless people washing your dirty windshield"
punkman: hah "Heard often on fed P25 radio in Philly today: "Turn your encryption off. I can't hear you""
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49582 @ 0.00073022 = 36.2058 BTC [+] {3}
cazalla: been that way for a while punkman, half the reason i never made money while i slept!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4441 @ 0.00073149 = 3.2485 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33883 @ 0.00073623 = 24.9457 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: "Anas Aremeyaw Anas is known for, as he calls it, the “naming, shaming and jailing” of criminals all over Ghana – yet few people would be able to pick him out of a crowd."
☟︎ cazalla: shinohai, she gives the subtle troll away at 1:01
shinohai: 'tis hilarious though, a righteous lampoon.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20034 @ 0.00073562 = 14.7374 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23318 @ 0.00073216 = 17.0725 BTC [-] {3}
shinohai: BitPay has reduced the size of its staff in an effort to recoup losses due to inept management that lead to hax.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26950 @ 0.00073644 = 19.8471 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10829 @ 0.00072908 = 7.8952 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00072908 = 13.6338 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00073916 = 22.3226 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.000729 = 14.58 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00073301 = 14.8801 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.00072895 = 17.4584 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54093 @ 0.00072845 = 39.404 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47224 @ 0.00072881 = 34.4173 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31592 @ 0.00072596 = 22.9345 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: dude the notion that someone has a currency named "ringgit"... give 'em a carrot already an' pat their ears back, too fucking cute.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 04:36:30; brg444: cazalla, well he's wrong on a couple of things but I think it is a valuable service to remind everyone of why Bitcoin is there and how much money was wasted targeting broken business plans
mircea_popescu: to get to the point : it is not a valuable service to try and interpose oneself in front of actual power and pretend relationship. nor could it ever be. nor is it a sane or useful "strategy", nor does it ever work worth a shit.
mircea_popescu: "we" don't need random derp on youtubue to rehash what mp says a year-two later forgetting to mention the source. not because mp gives a shit, but because the sort of "we" that actually end up thinking their plastics are "made in the usa" generally get raped and can't figure out why.
mircea_popescu: if there weren't a pile of these "we"s running around, people^H^H^H^H reddit wouldn't be puzzling in the land of the lost "omaigawd bitcoinxt" etc.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 07:02:45; punkman: 2005: look at this, I can get my toaster to run Linux! / 2015: bleh, my toaster runs Linux / 2025: I wish I could get a toaster without Linux
mircea_popescu: "1965 hey look at this, they make houses out plastic now / 1985 bleh, my house is made out of plastic / 2005 i wish i could get a house not made of plastic"
shinohai: i have one of those light switches w/ android
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 07:56:30; punkman: "Anas Aremeyaw Anas is known for, as he calls it, the “naming, shaming and jailing” of criminals all over Ghana – yet few people would be able to pick him out of a crowd."
mircea_popescu: they got social media to "share ideas and stuff" just as long as those ideas are you know, easy, self flattering and funny.
mircea_popescu: and free strippings nude, free whippings and free strychnine injections.
punkman: oh he's all over the social media in US/UK, even Obama mentioned him. at least as long as he stays in Ghana.
assbot: Ghana's top undercover journalist masters disguise to expose corruption | World news | The Guardian ... (
http://bit.ly/1KyTOWE )
mircea_popescu: punkman no buti mean, the widgets oir w/e on the page in question
punkman: yeah just a sample of what the "media" is writing about him
mircea_popescu: o noes, look at that, eth is not a coin to trade but a technology ever closer to 3
punkman: "Running the code locally is better, but I think even the github code could be updated to leak keys to an external server. Wouldn't we need audited milestones with crc checks to be secure?"
mircea_popescu: "Wait. So someone purchased etherwallet.org (a premium domain name worth a not trivial amount of money most likely), put the work into creating an actual functional wallet with a pretty decent design, spent weeks promoting it, and for what? $1400? What is this? Kindergarten?"
mircea_popescu: these freaks really think everything's worth money don't they.
mircea_popescu: but coming back to the issue, isn't "ethereum the webthreezeroeum technologee" supposed to have scripted contracts or something to be the future of future moneys ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00073301 = 16.1995 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: did i fundamentally misunderstand what the promotional lie was supposed to be ?
assbot: IRS Agent Busted for Attempting to Extort $20,000 from Cannabis Shop Owner | The Free Thought Project ... (
http://bit.ly/1KyVuj1 )
mircea_popescu: because clearly teh irs is such a respectable, law abiding institution.
fluffypony: tell them 1992 called and it wants its easily-defeated crap back
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38548 @ 0.00073453 = 28.3147 BTC [+] {3}
davout: that is, if anyone actually checks them
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58600 @ 0.00073311 = 42.9602 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.004 / 0.00438369 / 0.00492306 (460 shares, 2.02 BTC), 30D: 0.004 / 0.00471241 / 0.00492306 (4734 shares, 22.31 BTC)
jurov: ;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoin-central
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 211.5, Best ask: 212.499, Bid-ask spread: 0.99900, Last trade: 212.499, 24 hour volume: 90.15698134, 24 hour low: 205.00006001, 24 hour high: 212.82, 24 hour vwap: 209.84152397
jurov: but davout's bot is mia, again
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00073916 = 6.0611 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00073937 = 18.8909 BTC [+] {3}
davout: jurov: it doesn't really like my shitty internet apparently...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00073546 = 21.549 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00073411 = 25.6204 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50001 @ 0.00073982 = 36.9917 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14298 @ 0.00072953 = 10.4308 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00072606 = 11.3265 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12152 @ 0.00072606 = 8.8231 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17469 @ 0.00073996 = 12.9264 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: "Ah the old "got what they deserved" and "should have known better" racket. That applies to dumbass butter cultists but not the normal people who need jobs and happen to land at this company. "
mircea_popescu: ahahaha o god the bitpay thing has done such an irony twist on buttcoin
mircea_popescu: who knew unemployment is the true fear of the libertard.
funkenstein_: "Linguistic studies have shown that roughly two thirds of the words in Papiamentu's present vocabulary are of Iberian origin, a quarter are of Dutch origin,and some of Native American origin and the rest come from other tongues."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.0007401 = 21.0188 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3292 @ 0.00074021 = 2.4368 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15130 @ 0.0007404 = 11.2023 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: BitBet is THE prediction market, which means it’s basically a megaphone. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... (
http://bit.ly/1LaWhdt )
thestringpuller: Lol good ol Tyson: "People don't really understand a currency based on numerical equations. I personally still don't ... but I'm grateful to be a part of the revolution"
pete_dushenski: "Camera Restricta is a speculative design of a new kind of camera. It locates itself via GPS and searches online for photos that have been geotagged nearby. If the camera decides that too many photos have been taken at your location, it retracts the shutter and blocks the viewfinder. You can't take any more pictures here." << notbad for an 'artist' (philipp schmitt)
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 17:25:22; kakobrekla: dunno if anyone particularity cares here, but you can now trade commodities (oil, food..), indices (SP500, DOW...) and bezzlestocks (apple, google..) with bitcoin on bit4x
thestringpuller: just noticed there has never been a single truly trustworthy mining operation to date.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00073822 = 7.7882 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: gigavps was a vps service provider, not a miner, neh ?
pete_dushenski: plus, what do you look for in a 'mining operation' that would make it 'trustworthy' ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38448 @ 0.00073475 = 28.2497 BTC [-] {3}
pete_dushenski: that's a very vague statement. a garage full of asics could be an 'operation' and it could be in YOUR basement and therefore about as trustworthy as they come
kakobrekla: there 10+ ticks per second, jiggabytes of garbage nobody that isnt trading wants to see
pete_dushenski: kakobrekla: larger trades a la 'bigbitbets' would be neat
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00074058 = 8.5907 BTC [+] {3}
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: gigavps was known for the perpetual mining bond on GLBSE gigabond or whatever. MP recently declassified some logs from him way back when proving it was a ponzi all along.
pete_dushenski: just publishing trades above X value doesn't make sense ?
kakobrekla: do you think my users define the price of aapl stock?
kakobrekla: or the quote on eurusd for that matter.
kakobrekla: so you see it would be random useless garbage metadata
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 21:29:41; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla how about you do this specifically : a) make assbot make an hourly report with prices and volumes for each traded commodity ; b) make assbot spot a line trade for each time trade in a commodity goes > 100 btc ; c) make assbot keep a wallet for every person in l2 ; d) allow me to order buys and sells on bit4x via assbot, just gives me a hash to unpack like rating works now.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00073403 = 9.2488 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00073354 = 5.8316 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8325 @ 0.00073354 = 6.1067 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29614 @ 0.00074065 = 21.9336 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59646 @ 0.00074078 = 44.1846 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40100 @ 0.00073308 = 29.3965 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18282 @ 0.0007384 = 13.4994 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 170534 @ 0.00073188 = 124.8104 BTC [-] {4}
pete_dushenski: "House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio), long under fire from conservatives within his own party, will resign Oct. 30."
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41051 @ 0.00072883 = 29.9192 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: ls400 was the luxury sedan that launched the brand and turned the segment on its head, showing that high-end cars could be built to last, comfortable, and as boring as wallpaper paste
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22309 @ 0.00073466 = 16.3895 BTC [+]
assbot: Medical Panel Calls for Further Study of Bayer Sterility Device - WSJ
pete_dushenski: “Women are telling us that if they reported pain during a study they were thrown out of the study,” Dr. Zuckerman said.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13572 @ 0.00073466 = 9.9708 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17428 @ 0.00073191 = 12.7557 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22184 @ 0.00072591 = 16.1036 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20466 @ 0.0007251 = 14.8399 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42271 @ 0.00072428 = 30.616 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00073839 = 8.27 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2160 @ 0.0007384 = 1.5949 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20642 @ 0.00074096 = 15.2949 BTC [+] {2}
mike_c: ooh, i like the side by side
punkman: mike_c: yeah you just pipe the diff to it
mike_c: that's going in the toolbox. thanks.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51910 @ 0.00073757 = 38.2873 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24350 @ 0.00072916 = 17.755 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00074 = 7.844 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00072916 = 5.4687 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00074 = 8.066 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42147 @ 0.00074096 = 31.2292 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1701 @ 0.00073504 = 1.2503 BTC [-]
ascii_field: 'Orin Kerr, a constitutional scholar and former federal prosecutor, suggested that the "Fifth Amendment issues raised by the content of the passcode could be addressed by having the defendants just enter in their passcodes rather than handing them over to the government."'
☟︎ trinque: lol @ "compelled compliance"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28701 @ 0.00072746 = 20.8788 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: RepublicofBelarus is not registered in WoT.
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Did you see Atmel was purchased?
trinque: this kerr guy seems like mega-scum
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23681 @ 0.00072596 = 17.1915 BTC [-]
ascii_field: 'nobody expects the spanish inquisition', but only a fool at this point would not expect the Coke Machine.
trinque: ascii_field: the govt is not forcing confession; it's forcing you to tell it the truth it already knows!
ascii_field: this is precisely the condition needed for the coke machine
☟︎ ascii_field: usg knows that f(x) == y, you get locked into an edgar-poe-esque contraption until you cough up x
ascii_field: this is after you watch your wives, children, pets, etc. get woodchippered, naturally
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00072474 = 3.6599 BTC [-]
trinque imagines the system freezing due to winblowz 2022 as one pounds the touchscreen begging it to take input
ascii_field: (and certainly no public trials or other circuses)
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 234.77, vol: 23385.36531342 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 232.353, vol: 8052.42872 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 235.72, vol: 13143.09438764 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 245.0, vol: 2.2448 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 238.8018, vol: 22235.52030000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 237.18044, vol: 145.64394813 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 234.184589651, vol: 88.11888908 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8246 @ 0.00072474 = 5.9762 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00072407 = 15.3503 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27959 @ 0.00072407 = 20.2443 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00073332 = 21.1196 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50744 @ 0.00072275 = 36.6752 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 14:51:18; pete_dushenski: "Camera Restricta is a speculative design of a new kind of camera. It locates itself via GPS and searches online for photos that have been geotagged nearby. If the camera decides that too many photos have been taken at your location, it retracts the shutter and blocks the viewfinder. You can't take any more pictures here." << notbad for an 'artist' (philipp schmitt)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: people, stop making stupid women. there's enough of them around as-is.
jurov read "camera recta" at first.. would kinda work either way
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 15:17:39; kakobrekla: nah.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 16:41:47; pete_dushenski: "House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio), long under fire from conservatives within his own party, will resign Oct. 30."
mircea_popescu: fucking idiots, anyway. the only correct thing is to fire the entire civil service, keep the thing closed for ten years, then tentatively put out half a bn or so see what happens.
mircea_popescu: fucking lalaland where the govt is spending trillions, the populace turns into lazy & stupid cattle whose only aspiration is a govt college certificate for a govt "job" doing nothing and spending its time on reddit. then we wonder where did america go.
mircea_popescu: down the fucking drain of public spending, that's where. stop spending money, it is like giving kids candy.
mircea_popescu: he keeps up with cosmo and tries to play pretend he's in it.
mircea_popescu: bah i should look at the pics before commenting. while the general principle is correct that pic doesn't illustrate it at all.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 17:02:05; pete_dushenski: ETH Last Price 0.00326000 24hr Change -8.78%
punkman: you now need 540k eth to sell below 0.001, someone must've read the logs
mircea_popescu: didn't they give out 500k to that random hamplanet for reasons ?
punkman: if I had 500k eth I'd definitely trade them in for 1040 btc on poloniex
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 19:55:57; ascii_field: 'Orin Kerr, a constitutional scholar and former federal prosecutor, suggested that the "Fifth Amendment issues raised by the content of the passcode could be addressed by having the defendants just enter in their passcodes rather than handing them over to the government."'
punkman: 73mil eth available, huh, that's a lot
mircea_popescu: gotta grant it to the pump artists, did a much better job with this than the other team did with ripple.
mircea_popescu: basically the situation is, the chumpatronic engineering progresses much faster than the chumps.
assbot: Logged on 21-04-2014 19:22:37; mircea_popescu: the devil himself knows not the thought of man
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14434 @ 0.00073333 = 10.5849 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26624 @ 0.0007343 = 19.55 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: BitBet - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 :: 101.11 B (97%) on Yes, 2.96 B (3%) on No | closing in 9 months 1 week| weight: 89`332 (100`000 to 1) ... (
http://bit.ly/1LbUSmR )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25363 @ 0.00073504 = 18.6428 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: somehow the concept that if a => b => c => d => f then if (a || b || c || d || f) reduces to if (a) is not directly fucking obvious to this horde of illiterate college graduates.
mircea_popescu: they just know THE METHODS, completely blind to the substance, protest "d is poorly defined". da fuck difference does it make. not like d can ever be the deciding factor.
mircea_popescu: but no, three-ring binder logician musts needs formal match because it's his only interface to the world.
mircea_popescu: racists are people who say nigger. empathy is saying words. stuff!!1
mircea_popescu can only imagine that an optimizing compiler would look if written by tards born this millenium, and what mel'd think of it.
☟︎ Bingo_VACAY: I swear as a TA I would not have passed those bbet commenters
Bingo_VACAY: But professor would have "up adjusted" the grade anyways
mircea_popescu: during his very brief toying with teaching, /me decided to flunk the entire, 6-group year, >100 twerps. had chat with provost, agreed to forget about the entire thing.
jurov: ^ totally fell for it
HostFat: I did 2 bets some weeks ago, maybe more than a month
HostFat: so, here you said that after a while, if they were rejected
assbot: BitBet - The ETH scam won't see 2016 :: 51.16 B (28%) on Yes, 134.11 B (72%) on No | closing in 2 months 1 week| weight: 88`056 (100`000 to 10`000) ... (
http://bit.ly/1LbXuRI )
HostFat: I'm not sure that they are available, but they are visible here
HostFat: "Bitcoin main net block size to increase after 1 June 2016" and "Bitcoin main net block size increased on 1 June 2016"
HostFat: as I remember, they were both of 0.1 BTC
HostFat: maybe I can even find the addresses ...
HostFat: "rejected props get refunded as it gets around to it"
HostFat: what did you mean by saying this?
mircea_popescu: that within a day or two you should have hat the 0.1 or w/e it was refunded.
HostFat: eh, I think that it is passed more than a month :)
HostFat: I'm not sure that I've wrote it
HostFat: is it under "YOUR BITCOIN ADDRESS" ?
HostFat: it's strange that I didn't put in it... I can't remember
mircea_popescu: i mean, if you look at the top bet right now on the list (24-09-2015 Rejected Namibia Vs New Zealand)
mircea_popescu: this can be readily verified for the entire list visible there, not so much for json because well, json doesn't have the links baked in, being json
HostFat: so is it possible to make new bets without writing any address?
HostFat: I could even used a multisig addresses, is it compatible with your script?
mircea_popescu: well it's also possible to send bitcoins to address 1qwertyuiop etc. bitbet doesn't have a ready way to know.
mircea_popescu: but i guess a warning if the field value doesn't verify as an address may be a good idea, when kakobrekla has some time for this.
HostFat: I'm more on the idea that I didn't put anything than a wrong address
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00073561 = 17.434 BTC [+] {3}
HostFat: so it is sure that I've put it in
kakobrekla: Bitcoin main net block size to increase after 1 June 2016 ; in 13sbmEE4bhc7xbvpkJzxUJA4dc2U1LhMQg ; out 16SmhvkungFVsoTM1xLkm74kAoZERVvhoG
kakobrekla: Bitcoin main net block size increased on 1 June 2016 ; in 1HDwwjqntD6HdKfhiTQXJfaY6dK1fFrwJc ; out 13LvVjrzH4Vwsk6VB5dfPahkBpURRsZFVa
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00073299 = 15.9792 BTC [-]
HostFat: now, I need to find where are these addresses :P
kakobrekla: HostFat> I could even used a multisig addresses, is it compatible with your script? < incidentally its compatible, since a few hours ago.
kakobrekla: some derp keeps selecting 'send back to originating address' and sending from multisig
mircea_popescu: anyway, since you're looking at it : can you change "new bet" to "new prop" in the header
kakobrekla: but when prop is accepted it becomes a bet
mircea_popescu: no, the idea is, the previous meaning of the word "Bet" as in, the page with a description and so forth, is now called prop
mircea_popescu: the individual quanta of money sent to a prop, were and remain "bets"
punkman: could change individual bets to "wagers"
punkman: I used "Props" in the cli app :P
kakobrekla: 'add a new bet' went to 'add a new prop' now
mircea_popescu: no, SHOULD stay as it is. it's a proposition of a bet.
mircea_popescu: all they can say is shit about money. thanks to the imbecile yet overvoiced females they got, language doesn't woirk for fucking, for gambling, for nuttin.
mircea_popescu: where you put the body in, the title should stay "THE BET"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9957 @ 0.0007367 = 7.3353 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i mean should say "THE BET", as it does now. unchanged, that bit.
mircea_popescu: in the crooked timber of the english language, no kant was ever translated.
assbot: BitBet - Hillary Clinton will be Democrats' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 0.27 B (90%) on Yes, 0.03 B (10%) on No | closing in 6 months 2 weeks | weight: 99`068 (100`000 to 1) ... (
http://bit.ly/1Mve3oP )
lobbes: champion of socialism, that guy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00073722 = 12.3116 BTC [+]
trinque: mircea_popescu: he's the derpy looking socialist from vermont
trinque: proposes we spend some umpteen trillion dollars to stimulate the whatever
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 22:19:35; *: mircea_popescu can only imagine that an optimizing compiler would look if written by tards born this millenium, and what mel'd think of it.
punkman: llvm wasn't written by 15 y olds
punkman: especially if it has to do with javascript
assbot: Patent US8246454 - System for converting television commercials into interactive networked ... - Google Patents ... (
http://bit.ly/1Lc6c2d )
mircea_popescu: in other news, snakes on a plane is an incredibly bad film. down there with tucker max productions and shit.
mircea_popescu: it's sad that crud like that is going to be forever associated with "the first attempt to put the internet in the #1 position for marketing a movie"
mircea_popescu: what's more sad is the fucking mosfilm level of the script. seriously, the "idealistic da" ? what the fuck, there is no even remotely ethical da in the us, nor was there, for 30+ years.
mircea_popescu: what's this bullshit 1950esque "bad guys against the angelic aparatchiks" ? where the fuck is the hollywood movie about carl force V
mircea_popescu: make me one in which bharara is depicted au naturel : as a lying, evil scumbag from hell.
mircea_popescu: the cinematic vocation of 2010s is, depicting the us president as a sort of nero.
mircea_popescu: that's what you gotta do, IF you're gonna make movies.
mircea_popescu: the average "criminal" being definitely more lovable, and in general more ethically respectable than the BEST of the law enforcement criminal gang.
mircea_popescu: that's the truth, that's the movie you make. or fuck you.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20504 @ 0.00073462 = 15.0626 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: hjas nothing to do with the code folks. in the 19th century, the us was a place where people earned their keep.
mircea_popescu: 1970s russians believed the soviets are non-dumb. just like 2010 chinese believe the same about their idiotic leadership.
mircea_popescu: they are all, without exception, living above their means on govt supports.
mircea_popescu: for as long as taxation is negative, you don't really get much robin hood action.
mircea_popescu: inner city black man does not see himself as owned by the crown.
mircea_popescu: anyway. to reiterate : b-a needs to get a cinema production unit going. talk to me babies!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50250 @ 0.0007404 = 37.2051 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consequently the negative taxation they beenfit from does not figure in their breaking of cages.
mircea_popescu: (and you will also note that elephants in zoo may break cages/lay waste to the hay depot, but do not as a rule figure out hjow to use gps to locate the central bureau of zoos and burn the local pencildicks in charge.)
mircea_popescu: in other words : inner city blacks are subhuman, and not a proper example in this discussion.
mircea_popescu: but you will notice that we're not merely aghast at inept fiat govertnment. we have substitute. we collect fucking taxes. heck, b-a collection is above the historical maximum for ANY fiat state known during the past century or more. well over 90%.
mircea_popescu: exactly like a state. 19th century americans ALSO had a day job.
mircea_popescu: they didn't sit around being americans for more than an hour a month.