jurov: looks like i afk'd TMSR birthday, hooray anyway!
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jurov: and as it happens that my days end up with bug reports,
jurov: or we gotta sign declaration with correct url?
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assbot: BEAUTIFUL ANGELIC BYZANTINE CHANTS (1) that HEAL BODY AND SOUL - 1 hr to be WITH CHRIST. - YouTube ... (
http://bit.ly/1XYqHC7 )
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 23:14:50; mircea_popescu: anyway, iac certainly stands to gain the most should the general gullible public be persuaded that normal social interaction "could be" rape.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dossiers, dossiers, but once they start coming out you know there's at least a guard change afoot
mircea_popescu: nfi what that "longreads" thing's supposed to be, but w/e.
mircea_popescu: "look at me masturbate! everything fits the pink box in retrospect!"
gribble: logs.bitcoin-assets.com is up
hanbot: heya ben_vulpes, how goes?
jurov: asciilifeform: you mean log.bitcoin-assets.com no?
shinohai: I can't help but think mod6 intentionally tied his release to this day.
gribble: log.bitcoin-assets.com is up
ben_vulpes: hanbot: quite well; got some 4 hours of solid work done this am with a snoozing and cooing baby upon my chest. yourself?
hanbot: ben_vulpes so it's a coo-op? i'm dandy, rehydrating after last night's clubbing marathon.
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ben_vulpes: hah! the lengths to which some people will go.
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shinohai: I'm fairly certain that in my quest for anal penetration I could find a device decidely less splintery, but to each their own.
assbot: Latest on Mizzou: Board of Curators to meet Monday, no football practice, students continue protest : News ... (
http://bit.ly/1HoMkat )
BingoBoingo: A lotta bipeds take the sports thing pretty srs in spite of alf's protests
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Classes weren't happening? Eh, no big deal. Having to field a white football team? Holy shit the sky is falling!
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: movie43 has a bit on that as well.
ben_vulpes: "they're white! you're black! what else do you need?!"
BingoBoingo: Seriously the two episodes which triggered this were drunk white kids who said "nigger". Fighting that is like fighting entropy. It's just going to keep happening.
BingoBoingo: The University system is probably going to get a black president, drunk white kids will keep being drunk white kids, and that's that
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mod6: thanks asciilifeform
mod6: shinohai: nothing intentional really
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assbot: Logged on 09-11-2015 02:40:47; BingoBoingo: A lotta bipeds take the sports thing pretty srs in spite of alf's protests
BingoBoingo: I guess, though some of the US sports rivalries carry over sentiment from border skirmishes like Missouri/Kansas
BingoBoingo: But that now only typically gets as violent as the occasional vandalism or isolated mugging/curb stomping
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BingoBoingo: Socialists are realizing the MayoGendered are ruining their ObolaCare experienc
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BingoBoingo: Seriously. Might go to bed early tonight for the Monday Funday drama
BingoBoingo: It's looking like the only way the 'Murican left survives to 2020 is a Ben Carson or Ted Cruz win.
BingoBoingo: Though the US Presidency hasn't been a win in a long time
mircea_popescu: they better be spending half the day on knees praying mr toupe wins, because if he does there won't be power vacuum for young corporal/painter to take over.
BingoBoingo: Trump can't actually win. No such thing as electoral bankruptcy law.
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phf: mircea_popescu: sorry about not picking up mushrooms, right after i finished the port, i did a move to DC area, and then, after few days, left for a trade show, which i just came back from. i started working on a text only client for eulora, but i didn't get far enough to claim my items with it.
phf: which brings me to the point that i have folders for all but "make new hardware" item in that list of b-a scope in various states of disarray, and it would be great if there was some prioritization, like it was the case with eulora "oh we need this done, you do it".
☟︎ phf: i have some code for gossipd, i'm going to by the spec that's published on trilema, rather then follow up conversation about udp and first packet validation. i wrote enough in c to be able to prime gpg machinery and send packets over the wire (which basically coveres things that i wasn't sure how to do before i started), then i switched to common lisp to get a prototype up. what came out of that so far is updated bindings for lisp
phf: support of gpgme. the bindings come standard with gpgme release, but what's there was not updated since 2008. officially artifex is still working on that, but i take it nobody's heard from him in a while?
mod6: eh, i think that was supposed to point at the treasurers document
trinque: mod6: ah, ok. and the one in the body of the article is this one?
trinque: if nobody remembers I can figure it out myself.
mod6: yeah, i don't recall. i had thought that maybe that deed was intended to point at the treasurers doc since it has the foundation donation address in there.
mod6: might be worth a look to see what's what there.
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mircea_popescu: re the meat : all of these are major projects, the expectation, imo reasonable, is that whoever decides to work on one starts by publishing code, which will vehehehery likely need refactoring perhaps even redesign. because we're here shooting in the dark. so rather than managerial idiocy, i much prefer somnething like how v worked out.
mircea_popescu: publish a prototype, im sure alf will be more than happy to look through it, plenty other people will test it etc.
mod6: maybe it was the charter
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're not a dead end for the following reason : the P must be a stand-alone building block anyway.
mircea_popescu: they'll, if nothing else, help us understand the api to it.
mircea_popescu: but i want it to be one thing and everyone statically links IT
trinque: punkman: what did those values in the URL stand for, and I can just regenerate them from what I pulled from your sqlite
mircea_popescu: so in this sense the design is sane, as he has it. callout to "gpg", to be replaced by p
phf: asciilifeform: gpgme doesn't exactly "calls out", it talks to gpg via a text protocol, but i agree with your overall point. gossip has a fixed set of crypto operations, that can be abstracted, until you finish your crypto state machine gizmo.
mircea_popescu: if we manage to avoid the insane state of importing openssl bondogle to do crypto we're so far ahead of the game...
phf: as far as lisp, yeah, not practical for deployment, but i started getting bogged down in trivial serialization questions, before i understand clearly how the whole system is supposed to work. once i get the spec as is up, i want to start working through those comments to modify it into a udp lower level system. in any case lisp is better option for gossip prototype, because the spec is so open ended
mircea_popescu: so gossipd is practically going to be lisp hand-compiled ot c ?
phf: i'm pretty bad a dijkstra programming, i need to see the system behave to reason clearly about it, and c is not it. besides the translation is the tirvial part
mircea_popescu: phf you're not required to agree to this inasmuch as you're using your own time & hands.
mircea_popescu: write it in lua if that's genuinely what works for you.
phf: asciilifeform: boehm gc?
mircea_popescu: if you end in this situation where you have a beautiful prototype and a buggy implementation people are going to hate you.
phf: it's a tried and true strategy, original javascript has been done that way. i recently learned that that's the way dot-net garbage collector was written
phf: not the best examples, i agree :>
phf: i.e. system calls only?
phf: speaking of, so far what c code is written, it's written in cweb
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phf: knuth literate thing, yes, the translator produces c files with relevant bits interpolated
trinque: jurov: links in the declaration and qntra piece are afaik pointing to the right place, pending punkman's indication on how to generate the values he was using for URLs
mircea_popescu is rather partial to the concept of "god damned it source code should be written in essay form what is this machine serving bs"
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the only case where a "source is the spec" could be excused, is properly written knuth c.
mircea_popescu: obviously if you break the principle you break the principle.
phf: i like that the end result can be wholly signed and produces a spiffy dvi for printing
phf: it doesn't necessarily has to be particularly intrusive, i've looked at some of his "hacks", and they are very lightly annotated, but the partitioning still makes more sense that the direct flow of a c file
mircea_popescu: whjat i mean by "best practices sorta thing" : nobody;'s going to hang you if you don't do it, but should seriously consider doing it.
phf: in any case that's, so far, the best option i found for keeping the evils of c at a slight distance. at least interested parties can read and inspect the code, without skipping tricky parts
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mircea_popescu: "error stanford computer science" is just abour righr.
phf: i just assume that knuth stays in millenarian maths, periodically comming out to talk about generative Organ music
phf: otherwise no relation to stanford
phf: i thought at mgu they just self-embalm, как завещал тов ленин
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BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform tries, fails, to recall the name of the british prof who had himself embalmed and wheeled into faculty meetings long after his death << Bentham
punkman: trinque: the urls should be in the database, it was base58-encoded sha256 hashes
mod6: However, the head proved an irresistible target for students, especially from King's College London, who stole the head in 1975 and demanded a ransom of £100 to be paid to the charity Shelter. UCL finally agreed to pay a ransom of £10 and the head was returned. "
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punkman: so question for engineers: I have an aluminum window casing that's corroding in a couple spots around the edges, and corroded part is growing outwards something like puffy/powdery flakes. been trying to find the technical term to no avail.
pete_dushenski: "Christakis hasn’t checked in on any of us. He hasn’t given us any indication that he is going to or wants to heal the community. If you know I’m in pain and you aren’t doing anything to try to help me, then how can you be sorry? Christakis is the Master of Silliman College, it is his job to take care of us, and he is failing." << so much lose it wins.
punkman: pete_dushenski: whatever it is that's happening. it looks pretty weird
pete_dushenski: sounds like the protective anodised coating on your aluminum frames has lost the battle against mother nature
pete_dushenski: maybe replace them with fibreglass ? or tell landlord to ?
pete_dushenski just realised how shocked he'd be to find a fibreglass-framed window anywhere in greece
punkman: how's fibreglass work for that
pete_dushenski: also, because it expands and contracts at essentially the same rate as the glazing, the window seals are stressed markedly less, improving the system's longevity by reducing condensation and air infiltration
☟︎ pete_dushenski: though this similarity in the coefficient of expansion assumes a triple-glazing, which is relatively common here, whereas milder climates will use double, even single-glazed windows
punkman: yeah I barely need windows here, only double-glaze
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assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 16:45:02; mircea_popescu: hilary doesn't stand a chance, in this atmosphere. for that matter, it wouldn't be surprising if the democratic party splits up, in multiple bits even.
punkman: no pitting on mine, just that whitish growth
punkman: guess I'll call the company that installed them
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pete_dushenski: if you hadn't said it was an aluminum frame, i wouldn't have believed it
pete_dushenski: "answering email on your mobile is hard and time consuming, wouldn't your lives be better if ROBOTS REPLIED TO YOUR EMAILS FOR YOU ?"
☟︎ punkman: "But replying to email on mobile is a real pain, even for short replies." oh so Android sucks for doing anything?
pete_dushenski: "Another bizarre feature of our early prototype was its propensity to respond with “I love you” to seemingly anything. As adorable as this sounds, it wasn’t really what we were hoping for. Some analysis revealed that the system was doing exactly what we’d trained it to do, generate likely responses -- and it turns out that responses like “Thanks", "Sounds good", and “I love you” are super common --
pete_dushenski: so the system would lean on them as a safe bet if it was unsure. Normalizing the likelihood of a candidate reply by some measure of that response's prior probability forced the model to predict responses that were not just highly likely, but also had high affinity to the original message. This made for a less lovey, but far more useful, email assistant.
pete_dushenski: We’re actually pretty amazed at how well this works. We’ll be rolling this feature out on Inbox for Android and iOS later this week, and we hope you’ll try it for yourself! Tap on a Smart Reply suggestion to start editing it. If it’s perfect as is, just tap send. Two-tap email on the go -- just like Bálint envisioned."
☟︎ pete_dushenski: i thought it was one of those 'fun' prototypes for wanking each other off to. but it's actually being implemented.
punkman: except they stop working after a couple years
pete_dushenski: what, like giving your child a legacy is free ? pff. don't be cheap. buy more $aapl
pete_dushenski: not like patek philippe doesn't need $5k servicing every 3 years.
☟︎ trinque: phf: thanks for the example code for cl-irc; works well. I'm now porting over the deed handling code from my wad of python.
punkman: even the Google engineers don't want to use Android, while insisting mobile/touchscreen is teh "future".
☟︎ trinque: and incidentally adlai this one when finished will be released as a deed itself.
pete_dushenski: punkman: if it mobile/touch wasn't teh future, they'd have to start looking for jobs that didn't require them to live in truck trailers in the parking lot
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assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 18:56:46; asciilifeform: example. some months ago, i tried one of those 'usb 3.0 to flatpanel' gizmos.
pete_dushenski: not one such 'graphics adapter' that i could find was produced by a manufacturer that i'd ever heard of. all seemed to be chinese 'brands', the type that horribly misspell labels
assbot: Mystisk rødt slim dekker millioner av kubikkmeter i fjorden - NRK Troms - Lokale nyheter, TV og radio ... (
http://bit.ly/1NYUhTn )
punkman: "15-30 meter thick layer of jellyfish on the seabed"
punkman: "they did a trawl pull the outer part of Lyngen in an area they normally receive both fish and shrimp. Trawler came up with large amounts of jellyfish and virtually no fish or shrimp."
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punkman: why the hell did they replace "Dorms for Grownups" with "Coliving" in title
pete_dushenski: it's your impoverished future, america, better dress up this pig with all the lipstick you've got because she's gonna squeeeel !
☟︎☟︎ pete_dushenski: lot of senseless, meaningless blah blah to paper over failings, shortcomings, and inadequacies of an entire generation.
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adlai: trinque: glad to hear. in other news, looks like the tx for your ,,bc,tmsr~ signature got malleated
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 09-11-2015 11:36:12; adlai: trinque: glad to hear. in other news, looks like the tx for your ,,bc,tmsr~ signature got malleated
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adlai dials pedantry to 11: the bitcoin signature from 1BkCTj36DMdcF8TVa1by9zfwdcMFm3VAES on 8f578344f5754cc1d7228506dfbd8ffe1c8fcbc017a5f8004026e3939493eea5:1 covering the transaction subsequently known as 52330ca416ea42e1d5a2d9be5874a8ab8fdc87ca100b068a164e6d4c1867d633 got malleated. this transaction happens to notarize another signature, of the gpg variety...
☟︎ adlai: trinque: fwiw deedbot- also seems to be using uncompressed addresses, perhaps a bug of the feature variety
adlai: reasons left as an exercise to the alert sweeper
assbot: Economists Estimate Human Civilization Still Years Away From Turning Profit - The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... (
http://bit.ly/1MuyNhY )
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fluffypony: humanity is the world's worst startup, then :-P
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BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> ok, $2k servicing. but still ! << What you can't do this at home?
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Or jsut take it to the local jewler for service. Warranties are overrated.
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jurov: dunno, maybe they service it with tunnelling microscope in hard vacuum
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assbot: Logged on 09-11-2015 06:51:39; pete_dushenski: also, because it expands and contracts at essentially the same rate as the glazing, the window seals are stressed markedly less, improving the system's longevity by reducing condensation and air infiltration
assbot: Logged on 09-11-2015 07:26:31; pete_dushenski: "answering email on your mobile is hard and time consuming, wouldn't your lives be better if ROBOTS REPLIED TO YOUR EMAILS FOR YOU ?"
mircea_popescu: this fucking us insanity. step 1 : replace computer with phone, which does not work as computer ; step 2 : stop doing the things you used to do on compuer you can't now do on phone.
mircea_popescu: they do it everywhere, step 1 : replace food with synthetic condensate, which doesn't work as food ; 2 : go to doctor to cure your problems arising from the fact that you don't eat food, you eat tyres and wd40.
assbot: Logged on 09-11-2015 07:27:12; pete_dushenski: We’re actually pretty amazed at how well this works. We’ll be rolling this feature out on Inbox for Android and iOS later this week, and we hope you’ll try it for yourself! Tap on a Smart Reply suggestion to start editing it. If it’s perfect as is, just tap send. Two-tap email on the go -- just like Bálint envisioned."
mircea_popescu: "They have again and again shown that they are committed to an ideal of free speech, not to the Silliman community."
shinohai: can confirm, a bot on tardstalk yields gems
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seems to be the plan for "continued economic growth"
mircea_popescu: im kinda miffed we don't get moar of the "precious indications at the xth congress" solemnity.
mircea_popescu: soviets ashamed of themselves ? sort-of like going to the strip club to watch a bunch of nude ladies bent like teens and protecting their pubenda.
mircea_popescu: "Its unacceptable when the Master of your college is dismissive of your experiences."
assbot: Logged on 09-11-2015 07:30:51; pete_dushenski: not like patek philippe doesn't need $5k servicing every 3 years.
assbot: Logged on 09-11-2015 07:31:22; punkman: even the Google engineers don't want to use Android, while insisting mobile/touchscreen is teh "future".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, that's where you teach them they're chickenshits. remember the vacuum ?
mircea_popescu: this buran item, made out of solid steel, huge noise. i said it scared the shit out of me and iirc you said the same
mircea_popescu actually said "well obviously" in class when learning about teh space race from soviet perspective. "FIRST SATELLITE!111"
mircea_popescu is fucking tempted to try and find one here. i bet you it exists.
mircea_popescu: i tell you... the fact that that textile hose NEVER DISATTACHED from the metal end.
mircea_popescu: i never thought this possible, it struck me as a bad idea. it dies there.
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mircea_popescu: i think they have steel mesh reinforcement inside that's welded to the inner tube
mircea_popescu: yeah my grandparents had the box. it was fascinating because tube in tube!
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Seems like it would make more sense to stick the deed below the original contract on the page.
mircea_popescu: the truth is i don't have a good solution to evolving contracts, and this is all part of exploring that space.
mircea_popescu: there's more to lyf than just coding. not that legal documents aren't coding anyway.
BingoBoingo: It's the incorporation papers, original kinda has to stick around
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, bring it along next you visit i guess ?
mircea_popescu: i'd buy it myself but can't be arsed to handle the importation.
mircea_popescu: dollars to donuts the item also exists in argentina, but been way too lazy to go through the NUMEROUS antiguedades markets.
assbot: Logged on 09-11-2015 07:58:09; punkman: "they did a trawl pull the outer part of Lyngen in an area they normally receive both fish and shrimp. Trawler came up with large amounts of jellyfish and virtually no fish or shrimp."
mircea_popescu: i get it, fucktarded narcissist generation expects the sea to how did that go, "Its unacceptable when the Master of your college is dismissive of your experiences."
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the fucking point of the sea is that you get what you get not what you expect to get.
mircea_popescu: no, see, more perfidious than that (which perfidy clearly proves he is full aware of the whole stack) : he PRETENDS TO FIX IT! orders carbon credits whipped.
mircea_popescu: same process, mentally, loads and loads and LOADS of "plausible deniability" sugar on top.
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320627 <<< how unfortunate for them that in an entire sea of idiots either lapping up the entire protective nonsense ("don't be mean" / "privilege is bad" / "sociopaths!111 don't careabout THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES111") or else too cognitively impaired to get much further than a vague feeling of existential nausea
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 09-11-2015 08:08:51; pete_dushenski: it's your impoverished future, america, better dress up this pig with all the lipstick you've got because she's gonna squeeeel !
mircea_popescu: there exists a tiny island that's perfectly equipped to laugh them into the dirt.
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assbot: Logged on 09-11-2015 08:08:51; pete_dushenski: it's your impoverished future, america, better dress up this pig with all the lipstick you've got because she's gonna squeeeel !
assbot: Logged on 09-11-2015 11:49:35; *: adlai dials pedantry to 11: the bitcoin signature from 1BkCTj36DMdcF8TVa1by9zfwdcMFm3VAES on 8f578344f5754cc1d7228506dfbd8ffe1c8fcbc017a5f8004026e3939493eea5:1 covering the transaction subsequently known as 52330ca416ea42e1d5a2d9be5874a8ab8fdc87ca100b068a164e6d4c1867d633 got malleated. this transaction happens to notarize another signature, of the gpg variety...
mircea_popescu: and now, off to eat cold HOMEMADE pizza in bed. turns out i live just like a coder, the only difference being the little differences. like slave labour.
mircea_popescu: or no. not like slave labour. like everything else but that.
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shinohai: real 'coderz' eat pizza hot pockets.
kakobrekla: sorry to disappoint, i have a better vacuum cleaner that that. was about same price.
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BingoBoingo: So the Toomin guy finally got a block just a bit over 1MB on Testnet, and now he's reorging testnet back to core rules demonstrating Altcoin security is shit and that they really don't want people testing blocks anywere near 8MB until the raeping
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mircea_popescu: <assbot> Mother of murdered Chicago boy, 9, fuels outrage after buying new car << i thought muricans loved cars.
mircea_popescu: "people". who the fuck cares what the dead people say.
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mircea_popescu: o look at that, "Central bank and government combined balance sheet"
mircea_popescu: in fairness all soviets to date pretended that they are special, and all the other failures of socialism were due to you know, those not being real socialism. this is the first pass around the stupid block when the supreme soviet actualy claims it's not doing socialism at all.
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ascii_field: mircea_popescu: hey it's already a command economy
mircea_popescu: yeah, just moving into the blessed state where the commands no longer do anything.
ascii_field still astounded by the sheer genius of the ln2 suicide machine
ascii_field: it just needs an ultrasonic thing to powder the icicle
ben_vulpes waves from the small and unimportant parts
ascii_field: and i distinctly recall ln2 powdering being offered as a sort of alt-cremation service somewhere
☟︎ ben_vulpes will now refer to this corner of the us as "the tonsils"
ascii_field: also how in satan's name does 'google analytic' or anything like it have any notion of sex or other biographical minutiae ?
mircea_popescu: jesus what is this retarded shit. the gender gap ? on tumblr ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field "useless information is worse than no information, because idiots will now think they know something"
ascii_field: i get the chumpatronic aspect, but find it hard to believe that anyone could be fooled
ascii_field: it has to be one of those item built specifically for the eager self-deluded
mircea_popescu: nobody needs to actulaly be fooled. just as long as they keep churning out this sort of crud and it's being reacted to, it's really no different from the idiot who "ai"replies to emails and imagines that this imbalance of power with his readership is useful to him
punkman: question is why isn't tumblr raging against binary gender web analytics
mircea_popescu: same exact fucking process, in the words of carlin, "a group of people trying to fuck each other a little deeper, a little faster, every time".
ascii_field: and now when ben_vulpes asks me about 'why is www dev work satanic' i can also link to this thread.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field incidentally, you know the joke with the two jews and the piece of dog turd ?
assbot: Logged on 15-12-2013 01:16:17; asciilifeform: two drunks each pay the other $100 to eat spoon of shit.
mircea_popescu: that's exactly "us economy|" : i will eat your moderately stinky shit and call it hamburger if you eat this very runny shit and call it a slurpee.
mircea_popescu: and the problem is insoluble, because shit drives away the food.
ascii_field: when it's this XOR wagner'n'cyanide time, most folks pick the former
mircea_popescu: kid getting to choose college will predictably not go to the one that actually teaches something.
mircea_popescu: used to be. their slow death was chronicled in that brit's piece linked in the log on occasion.
ascii_field went to the tail end of something quite like it
mircea_popescu: by now, obviously kid is more likely to "go to college" than summon up his entire extended family and make each person eat some of his shit at a great family reunion, "because you people suck"
mircea_popescu: "no mom, i'm not holding a wedding. i'm holding a "you people suck" party, attendance is mandatory, and you will all have to delight in my excrement while telling me how just like pork and beans it tastes"
mircea_popescu: because sure as hell i'm not doing it to your dumbass excrement.
mircea_popescu: i don't suppose a generation war - in the proper, 20th century sense, with mass rapes, mass graves and concentration camps - was ever this morally necessary. forget justified, it's not that it's justified, it is that it's a sine qua non mandatory requirement, just like hanging the nazis.
mircea_popescu: now consider that nero lived in very similar times, and all of a suden you might see the lad as a very heroic figure.
mircea_popescu is persuaded that if he lived at that time, he would have also set rome on fire and fiddled while it burned, also made horses senators and in general, the whole nine yards. it's a historical necessity.
assbot: Logged on 09-11-2015 18:12:09; ascii_field: and i distinctly recall ln2 powdering being offered as a sort of alt-cremation service somewhere
ben_vulpes quite pleased with the morning gifselection
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: contrary to popular opinion i don't need much educating on the satanicity of wwwwork
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: this is when i confess that i always saw n as a hero
ascii_field: ~somebody~'s gotta garbagecollect dead things.
mircea_popescu: "Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me."
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assbot: ‘The Book of Mormon Missionary Positions’ is the one gay sex manual that is TOTALLY SAFE FOR WORK|Dangerous Minds ... (
http://bit.ly/1Y0h4mD )
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ascii_field: in other nyooz, 'Historically, NSA has released more than 91 percent of vulnerabilities discovered in products that have gone through our internal review process and that are made or used in the United States. The remaining 9 percent were either fixed by vendors before we notified them or not disclosed for national security reasons.' (from nsa.gov)
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2014 17:34:41; asciilifeform: overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot.'
ascii_field: 'It's not clear what will happen to the money as of now, but many speculate that Jose Mariena Cartolos will not be allowed to keep the money and it will be taken by the Colombian Government and probably spent on improving the life of poor farmers all over the country.' << l0l, oughta have found a bitcoin pit instead ?
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ascii_field: but yes, iirc we had a thread where i noted that if i were to find a 747 packed with benjies in my back yard, it would make no measurable difference in my standard of living and would in fact be at least annoying
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 22:07:45; mircea_popescu: for the record, it's not even clear moving from bearer to certified insturment is anti-liberty. for insmtance - hansa used the certifierd instrument greatly, because as a merchant, giving your son a plain "pay the bearer so much silver upon presentation of this note in such town" was merely an invitation to any highwayman on route to "please fuck this young man in the ass and here's the pay for your
ascii_field: thestringpuller: 'don't know' doesn't begin to describe it.
thestringpuller: first step is to buy a cash business under the table like a restaurant or movie theatre or car wash
thestringpuller: I've been in the money laundering business from the USG side.
ascii_field: i couldn't so much as to buy a bottle of rotgut 'under the table'
ascii_field: mainly abilities/proclivities/experiences/intuitions.
ascii_field: 'i can't fly without airplane' -- 'what happens if you do?'
thestringpuller: hmmm good point. just interesting someone as intelligent as you hasn't thought about ways to launder money.
ascii_field: it is about lacking the most elementary ability.
thestringpuller: it's about you don't have access to XYZ? (aka people/tools/skills/etc. to support such a scheme"
ascii_field: you know how some folks cannot ride a bicycle, no matter what ?
thestringpuller: well if 747 crashses near you full of benjies I'll gladly take it off your hands
lobbes: still, with an airplane full of benjies, you would at least be able to buy, say, food without raising red flags
ascii_field: hence why i said 'no measurable difference'
ascii_field: cost of food is rounding error where i am.
thestringpuller: What about say a nice night with the pet at the fanciest restaurant in town?
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jurov: it's cute how you all want to convert alf into a criminal :D
ascii_field: hey i'm already a criminal in the sense contemplated in mircea_popescu's article re: same
thestringpuller: Hey I'm down to start a crime syndicate with ascii_field ; he'd be a great brain behind the operation
thestringpuller: Pablo Escobar will seem tame compared to what we could do!
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mircea_popescu: ascii_field which one ? criminal from at least two angles according to the very generous trilema inquisition.
ascii_field: the one where anybody in usa, other than possibly a coma patient, is 'criminal'
lobbes: trilema.com/2012/the-crime-of-being-american << twas this one, no?
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shinohai: has anyone ever made any soviet-era art of mircea_popescu?
shinohai: i have never seen these jewfro pics
ascii_field: meanwhile buterin's waterfall reloaded by usg with another 44,000 btc, or so tells völkischer beobachter
shinohai: was wondering where that little pump came from
jurov: you don't take the china theory?
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pete_dushenski is enjoying leftover, homemade mamaliga cu brinza from last night. still delicious the next day !
pete_dushenski: the dill's what makes this dish, though whether this is a traditional ingredient, i couldn't say
assbot: Logged on 09-11-2015 14:57:05; mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2015#1320581 << how can it be optimism, yo ? for one thing i don't live there. for the other thing, the breakdown of their system is bad news for them. yes, it sucked, but like ankylosis, at lrast it held things together.
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assbot: Logged on 09-11-2015 13:41:59; BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> ok, $2k servicing. but still ! << What you can't do this at home?
BingoBoingo: Also, why apply lawn pesticides? I like bees.
pete_dushenski: "Lullaby Milk only contains milk taken from the cows before daybreak. Melatonin is produced in the cows as they sleep, and so the milk produced before daybreak has naturally higher levels of melatonin."
pete_dushenski: this is perhaps even funnier for anyone who's ever seen a baby get 'milk drunk' before passing out
assbot: Logged on 09-11-2015 16:23:54; BingoBoingo: So the Toomin guy finally got a block just a bit over 1MB on Testnet, and now he's reorging testnet back to core rules demonstrating Altcoin security is shit and that they really don't want people testing blocks anywere near 8MB until the raeping
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BingoBoingo: Eh, dun you have an army of social media mercenaries to build?