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dub: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271494.0
assbot: FU all you trolls and doubters where are you now??????????/
RSM: no, but they scrapped the internal PSU and are usuing offshelf already ceritifed PSU's now. So we're hopping they can do waht KNC did with Jupiters from recieving chips to shipping within a week
dub: bitches better recognize
Mats_cd03: been hear huh? i am compelled by your education
bitstein: The Last Psychiatrist is one of the best things on the Internet.
dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ecp7UruLZI
assbot: Rhythm Quest - Closer To All Your Dreams - YouTube
mike_c: in my brief mining career i blew out a PSU. mining is such a wretched activity.
Mats_cd03: be forewarned, asset-ers are not friendly to mining ventures as a general rule
thestringpuller: but it's so much fun
thestringpuller: Mats_cd03: pfft ThickAsThieves started his hustle mining
Mats_cd03: and when was that
mike_c: but not actually mining
Mats_cd03: two years ago?
thestringpuller: 2013
thestringpuller: Like Spring?
thestringpuller: check logs son
mike_c: just pretend mining. lot harder to blow out psu's that way
Mats_cd03: aite
kakobrekla: !s test
assbot: 879 results for 'test' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=test
mircea_popescu: yay
thestringpuller: dope
Mats_cd03: nice
asciilifeform: neato
mike_c: !s from:kakobrekla test
assbot: 16 results for 'from:kakobrekla test' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from:kakobrekla+test
mike_c: awesome
Mats_cd03: !s from:ThickAsThieves
assbot: 37982 results for 'from:ThickAsThieves' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from:ThickAsThieves
RSM: our main paln is to hopefully at least ROI on the 19GH/s) of scrypt and the current 5(TH/s). that's give us at least 150BTC then wait for then next bubble. We have dividends already covered for at least the next twelbve months.
RSM: sorry 1(GH/s) of scrypt
kakobrekla: problem with from is it works on ":" only and well many use comma instead
dub: dude fuck off back to the forum
thestringpuller: http://en.bitcoinwiki.org/Namecoin << Lol "Relationship to Bitcon" what a typo
assbot: Namecoin - Bitcoin Wiki
kakobrekla: dunno if we should all switch to colon or make search use comma to parse 'to' as well
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.04101311 = 1.0253 BTC [-] {4}
mike_c: who uses comma?
kakobrekla: i used to it seem, now im down to nothing
bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: like this bitcon? http://canadianbullionservices.com/silver-coins-2/1-oz-2014-bitcon-silver-round
assbot: CanadianBullion - 1 oz 2014 BitCON Silver Round
kakobrekla: blah
RSM: we own the bragging rights to being the oldest publicly traded bitcoin security afaik or at least mining stock. IPO started january 2012
mike_c: meh. "to" seems unreliable regardless. not sure it adds much over simple "from + name" search anyway
mike_c: !s from:kakobrekla mike_c
assbot: 74 results for 'from:kakobrekla mike_c' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from:kakobrekla+mike_c
mike_c: !s from:kakobrekla to:mike_c
assbot: 1 results for 'from:kakobrekla to:mike_c' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from:kakobrekla+to:mike_c
mike_c: whoa
kakobrekla: see, there is comma a few times
asciilifeform: 'six landscapes' film << neat. wonder if the author has already fellated a nailgun.
kakobrekla: and mostly nothing.
mike_c: yeah. i don't think 'to' needs improving, just ignoring.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ << somebody with a reddit account please drop this in the whatever sluts subreddit ☟︎
assbot: I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: and anyone that does a lot of camsites or whatever - spread it wouldja.
kakobrekla: ;;rate mthreat 1 spammicide searchinator
mthreat: <kakobrekla> see, there is comma a few times << I see what you mean. For the "to", I just extracted using regex: "^([a-zA-Z0-9\-\_]+): "
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mthreat has been recorded.
RSM: I want to move RSM trading potentially on to Counterparty, but afaik there's no way to ever halt trading if we want to move. Offtopic my speculation is that Etherum is taking so long as their trying to wait for side-chains possibly?
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> ;;ident RSM << guy's like nefario's oldest chav friend.
mircea_popescu: his spelling's not much improved over the years either.
RSM: why Chav coz i can't spell?
kakobrekla: mthreat dunno if theres a better solution, dont worry about it
RSM: I'm dsylexic too fu@k and you should see my handwriting
mircea_popescu: pretty much yeah
mike_c: dyslexia makes you replace 'c' with '@'? that sucks.
kakobrekla: the keys are right next to each other
RSM: I studied fast Fourier transforms and matrix manipulation as an under grad though so at least i can count
mike_c: you can manipulate the matrix?? that is impressive.
kakobrekla: the agents. they are here.
RSM: it's just patens to foloow
mircea_popescu: "We have dividends already covered for at least the next twelbve months." << what sense does this make ?
kakobrekla: ascii and mp were right all along.
mircea_popescu: do you provision for dividends orsometing ?
RSM: yeah currently about ~5.5BTc in the div fund
mircea_popescu: moiety you got a reddit hon ?
RSM: I'm starting a motion to raise the salry fund as the two current Linux system admins are paid peanuts
Mats_cd03: lol
RSM: one of them is an abosulte CLI genuis. he's a slackware guru for the last four years
Mats_cd03: im sure you think so
RSM: currently building a 05 fee LTC P2Pool node with a dedicated server going in the DCtomorow gonna make it public based in Kansas City
RSM: sorry 0% fee
RSM: they've got it merged-mining ten chains so far lolz
moiety: mircea_popescu: I do. Just for posting about derp.net
hanbot: moiety, he prolly means http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2014#734588 ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00082487 = 17.4872 BTC [+]
moiety: lol np
asciilifeform: 'agents, they are here' << 'we had no doubts that the dacha [place of n. s. khruschev's forced retirement] was festooned with microphones, but as to where the receiving devices and tape reels were emplaced - no one had any idea. somehow this did not interest us... ... i must say that the apparatus worked in a rather mediocre way, and the eavesdropping was conducted so shabbily, especially in the latter years of
asciilifeform: father's life. the guards who had replaced melnikov, often, instead of switching the tape reel to record, confused the buttons. then, from father's walls, you could hear muffled singing, instrumental pieces, stage concerts - the microphones had turned into speakers. sometimes, i allowed myself a laugh - would feign surprise at the ghostly music and offer to locate its source. in a moment, silence would always fa
asciilifeform: ll.'
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/
asciilifeform: (bio of n. s. khruschev, by his son. translation mine.)
asciilifeform: ('Никита Хрущев. Пенсионер союзного значения.' Сергей Хрущев.)
kakobrekla: amazing.
thestringpuller: ;;google site:trilema.com dr. foreskin
gribble: These fucktards have to be immortalised, they're worse than Dr ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/these-fucktards-have-to-be-immortalised-theyre-worse-than-dr-foreskin-even/>; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/>; The psychology of the bagholder pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/the-psychology-of-the- (1 more message)
thestringpuller: ;;more
gribble: bagholder/>
mircea_popescu: !up greencabbige
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: cabbige
greencabbige: can I talk now?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.194 = 0.97 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: yes, for 30 minutes
greencabbige: looks like it
greencabbige: oh thought you lot wanted rid of me?
mircea_popescu: !s #bitcoin-assets +m
assbot: Search the #bitcoin-assets log : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=#bitcoin-assets++m
mircea_popescu: hm
mircea_popescu: ;;google #bitcoin-assets +m
gribble: #bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/>; NEXT: 02-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2014>; NEXT: 06-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2014&bots=true>
kakobrekla: + is a special char
greencabbige: RSM is www.796.com and I had a bit of gossip for you's in that IBWT is potentially working on a UK based securities exchange. he wants me to bring some shares over and manage it, but rsm board very worried of uk regulators.
kakobrekla: !s "+m"
assbot: 1050 results for '" m"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q="+m"
kakobrekla: lolk
mthreat: may need to URL encode it
mthreat: !s %
assbot: Error - search.bicoin-assets.com : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%
mthreat: yep
mircea_popescu: edge case anyway
kakobrekla: but if if visit http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q="+m" in my browser
assbot: 1050 results for '" m"' - #bitcoin-assets search
kakobrekla: the search sez " m"
mthreat: the "+" would be %2B url-encoded
mircea_popescu: greencabbige so your 12 months dividends are going to be 5.5 btc in the future ?
kakobrekla: !s "+m"
assbot: 1050 results for '"+m"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22%2Bm%22
kakobrekla: aha
kakobrekla: werks
mthreat: yep
mircea_popescu: 25-06-2014 17:04:04 <mircea_popescu> !t m d.bpay > ?
mthreat: now my [broken] terminal client (SecureCRT) double-url-encodes it. heh
kakobrekla: heh
kakobrekla: thats your reward for making the thing
kakobrekla: it will never work for you.
mircea_popescu: lmao
mthreat: it's ok, i'm stoic
mircea_popescu: whoa!
mircea_popescu: that'd be an excellent epitaph
greencabbige: if you divide the current RSM wallet by the amount of shares rsm doesn't own then that's a value of over 0.0010btc alone. While current lowest offer is 0.0006btc. Once we get a tracking code for 1(GH/s) of scrypt supposedly and hopefully within the next three to five weeks we're moving and buying all shares back below 0.0010. Where's the days of BTCT sepecualtion i share price went over 0.015 last summer our wallet w
mthreat: http://www.myplates.com/Images/Plates/PLPC001?plateText=STOIC
mircea_popescu: greencabbige you got your 2012 books published anywhere ?
mircea_popescu: mthreat yours?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00082525 = 9.903 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: hm mthreat , "+m" will match "m"
mthreat: mircea_popescu: nope. mine is https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_banners/7923842/1402238460/1500x500
mthreat: kakobrekla: yeah, +m just means "m is required" in the search language
greencabbige: possibly somewhere although i did it all my self then so very messy. Like I said our share price was 0.015 what saved us is I offered 0.002 per share for new funds to buy three KNC Jupiters. the shareholders we mostly against it, but i new those bfl's wernt worth shit. So it kind saved our bacon, but drastically lowered share price as I bought in 200% more shares and there's no knew buyers on 796.
mircea_popescu: kinda loud neh ?
kakobrekla: yes, but even when quoting it
kakobrekla: im not saying '+m' but '"+m"'
mthreat: kakobrekla: right. there's no way to search for the plus sign.
bitcoinpete: http://mineforeman.com/2014/06/27/brainwallet-org-exploited-and-bitcoins-stolen/ << a matter of time
assbot: BrainWallet.org exploited and bitcoins stolen | Mineforeman
kakobrekla: aha ok
mthreat: kakobrekla: all text gets tokenized
kakobrekla: rgr
mircea_popescu: greencabbige so you started a mining security in jan 2012 at 0.015, now trading at 0.006 and don't have any books.
bitstein: mthreat: love that plate
greencabbige: we've been on three exchanges now everything is fully recorded in our old thread. yes i have loads of old spreadsheets. Although the accounts guy didn't comne on board until last summer We orginally raised 200BTC in early 2012 then 120BTc last summer.
mthreat: bitstein: thx
asciilifeform: Math.random() << lol!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00082758 = 18.0412 BTC [+] {2}
bitstein: Both of them.
greencabbige: I think our intial seed funding from the orgianlly IPO was about $2.5k we now about 480k in bitcoins alone, a server, 5TH/s and a 30% depsoit on 1(GH/s) of scrypt.
greencabbige: sorry
greencabbige: $80k in the wallet
asciilifeform: 'the morel [sic] equivalent of opening other peoples physical wallets and taking the cash found within.' << more like digging out a bag of gold some anonymous idiot buried under park bench
mircea_popescu: ^
Mats_cd03: if you want to be in the black a year from now, sadly your best play is just to take off with the funds
Mats_cd03: the sad state of being involved in an enterprise you can't control and don't understand
greencabbige: no we can get 200BTC by next year and bitcoin could go to $5k. We have a cool $1million to play with then.
mthreat: amazing plan!
kakobrekla: why am i hearing dollars, who said that?
greencabbige: better than fu~k all if you ask me
asciilifeform: amazing currency!
greencabbige: as hardware is priced in dollars
greencabbige: during a bubble all the current in stock gear that won't roi will easily roi
mircea_popescu: this would be the epitome of do it yourself finance / citizen dentistry.
Mats_cd03: whats your plan when hash goes to 1000ph and all your gear makes fractions of a penny?
asciilifeform: citizen appendectomy.
benkay: <asciilifeform> 'the morel [sic] equivalent of opening other peoples physical wallets and taking the cash found within.' << more like digging out a bag of gold some anonymous idiot buried under park bench // or...morels
mircea_popescu: also i am noticing in disbelief i missed out a 0. it's not 0.015 to 0.006 but to 0.0006
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/19MV24T.txt )
benkay: !b 1 ✂︎
greencabbige: ffs matt do you think I can't use a calcualtor or know anything about any of that sh~t I've been hear since 2011. So aint even gonna answer that.
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.0006 / 0.015
gribble: 0.04
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20579 @ 0.00082812 = 17.0419 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: four hundredths your money back in two years!
kakobrekla: ognasty did better.
kakobrekla: only 65% loss there.
mircea_popescu: but that's a social club
greencabbige: ok if you really wanna know with all our old gear we've sold it on ebay for more than we calcualted we'd a flogged out of it in the endz
mircea_popescu: greencabbige so is it true that nefario used you to launder all the fraudulent claims he made for various holdings on his own exchange after he closed it down ?
greencabbige: ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24067 @ 0.0008282 = 19.9323 BTC [+]
greencabbige: news to me
Mats_cd03: if selling burned gear is how you anticipate roi, you're in for a bad time
greencabbige: i hardley now the guy, I met him once briefly
mircea_popescu: that it can't be, as the charge was levied back in 2012.
mircea_popescu: well, no, not really.
Mats_cd03: GL finding a bagholder, that will surely be a feat of strength if you can manage it again
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=271494.msg2909807#msg2909807 << for that matter here you go, august 2013.
assbot: FU all you trolls and doubters where are you now??????????/ | Page 2 | Bitcointa.lk
greencabbige: ffs getting tired of this shit now. for a start if we sell it on ebay then people can buy it with a credit card to gety into a bitcoin. one of the only the ways to get in to bicoin safely with a credit card. Why all the attacks?
mircea_popescu: i think seinfeld has the answer to that.
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7bKly7Od8M
assbot: Seinfeld: No Resources, No Skills, No Talent, No Ability, No Brains. . . - YouTube
greencabbige: ok if oyu're all gonna tag team on me with your littel club I'll just leave then should and carry on. We don't need any new money. we're currently in the strongest position we've ever been.
Mats_cd03: greencabbige: because mining now is a net loss. i hope you come back to this conversation when you have toasted your runway
Mats_cd03: and consider the cacophony of voices insisting you're fucking wrong.
mircea_popescu: if this club is littel i shudder to think what bigness looks like.
benkay: disregard them greencabbige it's an echo chamber
benkay: they just reinforce the same set of tired old mantras
benkay: "business is hard"
benkay: "mining is -ev"
benkay: fn cult i tell ya
mircea_popescu: actually it was more like "where's your books" and "why are you -96%"
mircea_popescu: but same principle.
assbot: RagnarDanneskjol +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
mircea_popescu: !up RagnarDanneskjol
benkay: is danneskjol some sort of proxy for "bitch of"?
benkay: linguistic transform
RagnarDanneskjol: bitch is my phone
benkay: right on
mircea_popescu: tlb brings a good point. how come in the war between spooks and techs, it's the TECHS that get accused of being mysogynistic ?
mircea_popescu: im pretty certain fewer women work for the nsa and generally for the us secret service community than for silicon valley firms
mircea_popescu: at least from the supposedly secret usg employment rolls i've seen to date.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31042 @ 0.00082822 = 25.7096 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: "If I had to put my chips and my children against an 8 year rotation of civil service nincompoops vs. some nerd with an open marriage who spent $15M on a "bachelor pad" so he could score chicks of questionable emotional stability, I'm going with the group my private sector lawyers have an outside chance of pwoning."
mircea_popescu: somebody fundamentally gets it.
mircea_popescu: you don't fuck with people with bachelor pads and open relationships.
RagnarDanneskjol: HA
benkay: http://otakugangsta.com/post/90000203350
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9642 @ 0.00082416 = 7.9466 BTC [-]
dub: is there bitcoin for iphone yet?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00082372 = 4.2833 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: iphcoin coming soon
benkay: man okay guys talk me off this cliff
benkay: iphone wallet
benkay: spv makes it possible right?
dub: blockchain has an iphone-app page
dub: clearly I dont have an iphone to check with
benkay: but a non api app
benkay: this is doable, i b'leev.
mike_c: https://github.com/voisine/breadwallet
assbot: voisine/breadwallet GitHub
benkay: k nm saved by the market
benkay: "WARNING: installation on jailbroken devices is strongly discouraged
benkay: "
dub: friend wants to accept buttcoin but suffer appleblight
dub: alternative is $50 droidphone i guess
bloctoc: dub coinpocket works
RagnarDanneskjol: tell him to try airwallet [disclosure, its hosted by me]. doesnt seem wise using appstore wallets as they might disappear tomorrow
bloctoc: coinpocket can export private key. not disparaging airwallet - just never used it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.04299997 = 1.247 BTC [+]
assbot: alecpap +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
kakobrekla: !up alecpap
alecpap: kakobrekla, thanks
moiety: brb, imma actually have to add a pic on reddit to post.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 37 @ 0.01561 = 0.5776 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74350 @ 0.00082112 = 61.0503 BTC [-] {5}
punkman: http://np.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/296zn4/redditor_lost_20000_worth_of_bitcoin_due_to/
assbot: Redditor lost ~$20,000 worth of bitcoin due to insecure wallet generator. /u/BtcRobinHood steps in and return the money to its rightful owner. : bestof
punkman: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/266hdb/psa_brainwalletorgs_random_button_uses_lowentropy/chovb50
assbot: btclittlejohn comments on PSA: brainwallet.org's "random" button uses low-entropy Math.random()
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00082374 = 12.4385 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00082057 = 2.913 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: lulz
thestringpuller: moar lulz
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44430 @ 0.00082019 = 36.441 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04397156 = 0.5277 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: Why would the The Economist's rich and powerful demo want to be ruled? Because they aren't powerful, only rich, all that time getting rich did not translate to any power, only the trappings of power. So they've postulated a fantasy power structure/NBA owners that explains why they can't enjoy their lives as they think they should-- to absolve themselves of the guilt they feel for having money/intellect/opportunities an
mircea_popescu: d NOT being able to do anything with it except spend it on the system-wide approved gimmicks: Trading Up, college educations, the National Bank of S&P 500.
mircea_popescu: ok, quite splendid. the us is chock full of supposedly rich people who are about as powerless as a random south american whore
mircea_popescu: the notion that you can somehow be rich without being powerful is perhaps the lulziest part of the bezzle system.
thestringpuller: damn transaction scripts are hard to grasp at first
asciilifeform: the notion that you can somehow be rich without being powerful << actually the u.s. system is quite like the classical soviet world of 'special access' groceries, gov.-issued dachas, official limousines
asciilifeform: bureaucrat gets fellated in various little ways, in exchange for... a readiness to get down on his knees, ready to please.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol think you know someone wanna do http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2014#718932 ? ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: that'd be the exact antithesis of power.
asciilifeform: correct
asciilifeform: i.e. liveried servitude
mircea_popescu: !up RagnarDanneskjol
asciilifeform: american apparatchik gets a bag of bezzlars, 'his' to use to 'buy' manhattan penthouse. but same purpose as dacha near moscow issued to a similar creature
RagnarDanneskjol: I'm on it. pls standby
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also with a sort of paper cert.
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol that's what i do all day anyway :D
punkman: http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/06/14/sportsbet-derails-betting-on-trains-after-metro-demands-cancellation/
assbot: Sportsbet stops offering odds on Metro Trains | Crikey
RagnarDanneskjol: ha
decimation: re: liveried servitude << why? http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2014/06/the-great-fear-ethnocentrism-why-do.html
assbot: Council of European Canadians: The Great Fear --- Why do Whites Fear their own Ethnicity?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00082392 = 13.2651 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: https://twitter.com/keystricken/status/481292361180258306 << that old rusty gizmo, still generating lulz
assbot: This is AMAZINGLY engrossing. http://t.co/TSOiUtbtwX
decimation: I find the main human weakness w.r.t. generating randomness is a great aversion to repeated outcomes
asciilifeform: for some reason, it's mostly female names/portraits linking to it these days. maybe mircea_popescu can shed light on why.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform males got selected for decisive action, females for an ability to withstand brainhacking.
mircea_popescu: (the better ones get hacked by better guys thus make offspring that suvives better)
mircea_popescu: that thing doesn't look appealing to decisive action, but it does look insidiously like brain hacking.
asciilifeform made pet female play the 'game' shortly after first met. she beat the machine in about two minutes, by counting letters in words from memory, objects in surroundings, etc.
mircea_popescu: "Here's a transcript of an illegal recording not done by the NSA that therefore everyone is ok with, consistent with our new standard of conduct: it is not illegal to make an illegal recording as long as it is given to the media and they profit from it and we can use it to rationalize our lives. Got it." lulzy
decimation: "Of these speakers, Jeffrey Sachs, leading international economic adviser and director of the Earth Institute, is the most articulate in his explicit admission that we must follow the ideology of diversity regardless of what the scientific evidence says."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00081924 = 25.4784 BTC [-] {2}
decimation: mircea, in many US states it is illeagal to record conversations without both party's explict permission
asciilifeform: (the cpp version thereof)
mircea_popescu: decimation well yes.
decimation: the primary purpose of such laws is to protect corrupt politicians from being exposed, of course
mircea_popescu: in those same other states it's illegal to present yourself as a "leading international adviser" while you're a sort of rsm.
decimation: rsm ?
mircea_popescu: !s from:rsm
assbot: 5 results for 'from:rsm' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Arsm
decimation: are you propsing that Professor Sachs belongs in the same category as bitcoin scammers?
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mircea_popescu: i do, yes.
mircea_popescu: what's he done ?
mircea_popescu: i mean other than running the markov chain apparatus of opinion.
decimation: actually I think that's kind of an insult to the scammers
decimation: at least they ran some risk, he just collects his tenure pay
mircea_popescu: notrly. they don't run any risk if they can help it. and besides, he was young once, he ran the risk of no tenure.
mircea_popescu: a very bad risk, from what i hear.
decimation: true. getting tenure in the us university is a nightmare, from what I've heard
decimation: in fact his entire behavior seems perfectly consistant with your quote from ascii's link http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2014#729369 ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: actually, i will readily PROVE to you he's exactly in the same category.
mircea_popescu: http://blockchain.info/address/1Bbu9uvaNMWmAGj6sPF3edaA4u1wY2DLtZ know what this is ?
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1Bbu9uvaNMWmAGj6sPF3edaA4u1wY2DLtZ
decimation: interestingly it pops up in a link on the last pscyhiactrist's blog
mircea_popescu: interestingly, it's his donation address. with 6 bitcents in it.
mircea_popescu: tlp makes less than trilema. that's my proof sachs = rsm.
mircea_popescu: acceptable ?
RagnarDanneskjol: http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/9022-why-jeffrey-sachs-matters
assbot: Why Jeffrey Sachs matters
RagnarDanneskjol: Sachs is the Bono of economics - LOL
decimation: so to be clear, you are pointing out that someone who actually has original thoughts has a few bitcents, while sachs is raking in the speaking fees?
mircea_popescu: no. i am pointing out that someone whose brain works quite well but who wastes his time THERE rather than hire makes piddly squat.
mircea_popescu: and the THERE is the there of sachs.
mircea_popescu: s/hire/here, apparently dyslexia is contagious
mircea_popescu: so, the argument goes, invest your btc with rsm, 4% left in three years
mircea_popescu: or invest your intelligence with the bezzle, 4% left in thirty years ?
mircea_popescu: in the end, the fuck's the difference.
extra: hey guys so
extra: i'm meeting the coinbase co-founders at a Q&A tomorrow
extra: any questions you want me to ask them ?
mircea_popescu: what's their burn rate, or alternatively how long they got.
decimation: are they planning on actually making a real exchange on us soil?
extra: good Q
decimation: if so, how many regulators in how many states have they met with? how many lawyers retained?
decimation: because if the answer is 0, they are just dicking around
bloctoc: if the answer is more than 0 they are double plus dicking around
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/flyers-12.jpg << this just in
decimation: bloctoc: you might be right, but I suspect the "floor price" of buying into the entire us regulatory system is somewhere in the 10's of millions of dollars, perhaps low hundreds
decimation: it's interesting that this kind of wealth exists today in bitcoin yet no one is willing to spend it on bureaucracy
mircea_popescu: decimation nah, it's not that bad
decimation: mircea what portion of the youth in argentina speak english well enough to read trilema?
mircea_popescu: bout half ?
mircea_popescu: doesn't really matter anyway, a kid that's not bilingual is not literate anyway
decimation: there's much truth to that
mircea_popescu: letters used to come with latin in a package for this reason
decimation: mircea I'm just amazed that there is clearly an opportunity to make a profitable exchange on US soil, yet it appears no one is trying
decimation: at least, not without making any noise about it
mircea_popescu: it[s not that clearly profitable.
decimation: well, there's the issue of the usg taking 96% of your assets at a point of their choosing
mircea_popescu: you're grossly overestimating what it'd cost, it's maybe over 1mn but pretty sure under 10.
decimation: you would have to engage lawyers in 50 states and DC for sure
decimation: or start small and build up
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, do the math. if 100 mn us citizens spend 10 bux to buy from you over a year, out of the 0.2% you charge them you've made... 2mn
mircea_popescu: well done, almost paid with your legalese bill. let's hope all advertising was free
decimation: surely the bezzleers on wall street want a place to play
mircea_popescu: but it won't be free, because there's better way to extract value from the us consumer than taking 2 cents out of his 10 bux
mircea_popescu: yah, and they'll use your exchange
mircea_popescu: because why ?
decimation: heh good point
mircea_popescu: the us "market" is underserved for a reason. you can't get good wine, either, nor good cheese
mircea_popescu: nor good bread nor actual linen shirts nor steel engine blocks.
mircea_popescu: none of these'd be hard to do, legally.
mircea_popescu: the practicalities of a healthy sex life in argentina : as everywhere in south america, abortions are illegal here.
mircea_popescu: the one exception is uruguay, where they're not. so if you manage to knock up a girl in buenos aires, you have to ship her across the river.
asciilifeform: wine... cheese... bread... linen... steel engine << you can get them. just pay and pay.
decimation: what about portable nuclear reactors? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Nuclear_Power_Program
assbot: Army Nuclear Power Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
asciilifeform doesn't own one
moiety: any redditors around?
decimation: So the US Dod in the past had a program to put a 2.5 mw generator on a truck and put it in a combat zone
asciilifeform: wtf is a redditor
moiety: people who reddit
mircea_popescu: decimation those aren't really something you'd want
moiety: apparently
asciilifeform did once
decimation: then use the energy to convert carbon via fischer-troph to synthetic fuel
mircea_popescu: did you get banned ?
moiety: not yet
moiety: oh asciilifeform lol
asciilifeform: http://www.reddit.com/user/asciilifeform
assbot: overview for asciilifeform
asciilifeform: apparently not banned yet
decimation: they even put one in a snow fort in Greenland in the '50s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Iceworm
assbot: Project Iceworm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: my point is that many americans and 'allies' died in Afghanistan and Iraq transporting fuel to bases
decimation: they can't have a portable nuclear reactor because it would make the evrionmentalists batty
mircea_popescu: more like because it doesn't work so well.
decimation: what, nuclear fission?
mircea_popescu: portable nuclear reacors
decimation: well, like any engineering project it depends on the design
mircea_popescu: So what went wrong? For one thing, the villages that Sachs picked experienced all kinds of problems – from drought to political unrest. For another, the MVP took an idealistic “Field of Dreams” approach. MVP leaders encouraged farmers to switch to a series of new crops that were in demand in richer countries, and experts on the ground did a good job of helping farmers to produce good crop yields by using fertilis
mircea_popescu: er, irrigation, and better seeds.
mircea_popescu: But the MVP didn’t simultaneously invest in developing markets for these crops. According to Munk, “Pineapple couldn’t be exported after all, because the cost of transport was far too high. There was no market for ginger, apparently. And, despite some early interest from buyers in Japan, no one wanted banana flour.” The farmers grew the crops, but the buyers didn’t come.
mircea_popescu: ahjahahaha o god.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how long until these schmucks can earnestly admit "we like going to poor villages in africa because it is enjoyable to peruse in detail the troglodytism of lesser people"
mircea_popescu: all this disavowing pretense of "helping them" and "world better place" bs.
asciilifeform: incidentally, this is the only kind of 'charity' that exists in u.s. - and that their 'export product' is similar, should surprise no one.
mircea_popescu: Of course, Sachs knows that it’s critical to understand market dynamics; he’s one of the world’s smartest economists. But in the villages Munk profiled, Sachs seems to be wearing blinders.
mircea_popescu: Warren Buffett likes to say, “The rearview mirror is always clearer than the windshield.” Through that rearview mirror, we can see that the project never had an economic model that could sustain successes once the MVP dollars ran out.
mircea_popescu: All of the interventions involved – health, agriculture, infrastructure, education, and business seed money – make sense if carried out carefully, over time. But I am surprised by how little Sachs dug into country budgets, and that he didn’t work to convince governments to commit to additional taxation
mircea_popescu: dude wants more taxes. that's the way!
mircea_popescu: and nobody could have predicted that nobody wants crap in the middle of nowhere.
mircea_popescu: this sort of prose should be a penal offense.
decimation: "Another reason Sachs offers for the benefits of diversity is the rather common one that the more contact we have with other ethnic groups, the more we develop trust, forgetting his own previous observation that trust declines in diverse societies, but calling attention instead to some research about the amicable ways in which individuals from different ethnic groups, jet set businessmen and academics, interact with different ethnic
decimation: individuals inside hotels, restaurants, and conferences. "
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: yeah dude, some guy in a five star hotel is so very likely to butcher some other guy in a five star hotel.
mircea_popescu: they have all these points of conflict all over the environment, such as who fucked the blonde escort last
mircea_popescu: and left the flap up
decimation: right but they can sit and chat amicably for a few hours
decimation: so therefore, open the third world's floodgates
mircea_popescu: the benefit of diversity is quite plainly that anytihng that can be butchered should be butchered.
mircea_popescu: "But that’s not his style. He rolls up his sleeves. He puts his theories into action. He drives himself as hard as anyone I know." gates now a "hard work" apologist ?
mircea_popescu: "dude failed but that's ok, he worked hard". wtf just how rotten is that mental space.
decimation: there's no other conclusion than: white people in the west "want" to be invaded, crushed, and forgotten
decimation: in the same way that ascii's hunter finds that the deer walk up to him and lay down
decimation: mircea: re: "pretend-alodial" from your blog: the wikipedia is quite helpful on explaining the current situation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple
assbot: Fee simple - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: "In English law, a fee simple (or fee simple absolute) is an estate in land, a form of freehold ownership. It is the way that real estate is owned in common law countries, and is the highest ownership interest possible that can be had in real property. Allodial title is reserved to governments under a civil law structure"
mircea_popescu: why's that so helpful ?
decimation: it makes the situation plain as day: there is no allodial title outside the government
decimation: plenty of people in the west think that they 'own' their land
decimation: in Hawaii, there are six layers of bureaucracy from the state down to the county level, each of which is empowered to tell you what you can do with "your" land
mircea_popescu: sucks for hawaii
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mircea_popescu: anyway, fee tail used to exist, as the practical consequence of alodial title
mircea_popescu: it was phased out mostly at the owner's request.
decimation: Herr Walker has a new book review: http://www.fourmilab.ch/fourmilog/archives/2014-06/001521.html
assbot: Reading List: The Death of Money (Fourmilog: None Dare Call It Reason)
decimation: I imagine the arguments in court over long-lived estate's fee tails would be amusing
mircea_popescu: omfg the blue
decimation: browse in 'links'
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decimation: the author does agree with your earlier point about having 4% of your remaining assets: "Well, that's far from clear. The one thing one shouldn't do is assume the present system will persist until you're ready to retire, and invest your retirement savings entirely on the assumption nothing will change."
decimation: I'm surprised he hasn't got on the bitcoin bandwagon, he seems to be a likely suspect
mircea_popescu: maybe he doesn't want to advertise it, or maybe he ran off with who knows what braindamage on the topic
mircea_popescu: the guy does have one excellent point tho : if you're concerned about a collapse, the marginal utility of putting 10% of your assets into a hedge probably far exceeds the marginal utility of putting the other 90%
mircea_popescu: "Roughly half the counties in our nation lack a single OB/GYN physician to care for women."
mircea_popescu: guess the country.
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asciilifeform: usa
decimation: yeah ob/gyn is a known target for legal scammers in the us
decimation: your kid comes out a 'tard - it's the doctor's faul
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you're concerned about a collapse, the marginal utility of putting 10% of your << there is another possible observation here. quite a few of the folks who might otherwise take an interest in bitcoin are 'collapse pessimists' - i.e. believe in the 'lead standard.'
decimation: yeah it's interesting that the "lead standard" crowd seems to have not adopted bitcoin
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asciilifeform: (why a fellow who could afford to mount some semblance of adequate preparation for lead standard would stay in usa, is a question for them - not me)
asciilifeform: best hypothesis i know of - some folks want to 'die well' rather than live
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/patriarchy-is-a-thing-because-nobody-likes-living-in-a-world-populated-by-little-girls/
decimation: yeah the amusing thing about most of those types is that they seem to want to "own" their own own bunker or whatever, rather than the more obvious strategy of "recruit army, train"
asciilifeform: 'recruit army' in peacetime generally gets you 'hutareed'
asciilifeform: ;;google hutaree
gribble: Hutaree - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutaree>; Judge acquits 7 Hutaree militia members accused of terrorist ...: <http://www.freep.com/article/20120327/NEWS06/120327048/Judge-dismisses-critical-charges-in-Hutaree-case>; hutaree - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/user/hutaree>
asciilifeform: (minus the acquittal, normally)
decimation: well, you certainly cannot make usg your enemy either
asciilifeform: if you organize anything in usa that even vaguely resembles an army from a distance, you've made the enemy
asciilifeform: i dare say the folks who want to stick around to enjoy a hypothetical north american zimbabwe (usa minus mains current, sewer, water) are justifiably disinterested in btc
asciilifeform: speaking of sewage, i recently had occasion to learn the details behind herr orlov's assertion that usa minus mains current will drown in own shit ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: walking trails in public parks here are, for various reasons, built on top of sewer mains (cheap right of way?)
asciilifeform: sometimes, you'll encounter a structure that looks like this:
asciilifeform: http://www.cityofoviedo.net/files/Utility%20Water-Wastewater%20Pictures%20008.jpg
asciilifeform: that's a 'lift station.' normally sewer is operated by gravity. but often, for reasons of cost, a pipe will be laid uphill. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and one of these (electric pump) is built.
asciilifeform: no mains current - no flow.
decimation: this is a big problem in the maryland/dc area because it's a swamp
decimation: there's not much "downhill" to be had
asciilifeform: correct.
decimation: my own understanding of many of the 'trails' the DC area is that they were mostly railroad right-of-ways
asciilifeform: mostly from the (destroyed) trolley system from the first half of 20th c.
decimation: yep. here's an example: https://www.traillink.com/trail/wba-trail.aspx
assbot: WB&A Trail | Maryland Trails | TrailLink.com
decimation: they only reason the right-of-ways survived coherently is because utilities like power were still in use long after the railroads went bankrupt
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decimation: it's quite enlightening to study the ownership path of the right-of-way deeds. One realizes that us infrastructure is pretty much like openssl: everyone knows it's a horrible pit, everyone uses it, no will to 'fix' it
asciilifeform: this, incidentally, is also where you find fiber.
asciilifeform: conveniently marked for enemy saboteurs.
asciilifeform: (usg likes to lay unmarked fiber for seekrit skvirrel use. what happens? it gets cut. as the recent case of a new branch of wash. dc metro)
decimation: there was another amusing example in the DC area a few years ago, after the "derecho" thunderstorm. power was out everywher - why? because none of the treehuggers would let the power-line clearances be maintained
decimation: result: constant loss of power (especially in older neighborhoods like in PG county)
asciilifeform: more complicated. the tree trimmers routinely cut fiber (likewise strung overhead)
asciilifeform: and so people resist them.
asciilifeform: (trunk lines are buried; houses usually have pole connections)
decimation: yeah most cable companies "rent" the low wire on power poles
asciilifeform: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/30/AR2009053002114.html
assbot: The One Fiber Optic Cable No One on the Dig for Tysons Rail Wants to Hit
asciilifeform: ^ incident in question
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decimation: I found the metro to be generally useless
decimation: it takes an hour to get downtown, stopping at every useless ghetto on the way
mircea_popescu: * RUchamp_ (a2e354cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip. has joined #bitcoin-assets << dear chan, since i've made that 0.1 btc for titties post, mind voicing new names off webchat for a while ?
asciilifeform: city can't really exist without something like metro. (trivial arithmetic - calculate what fraction of city would have to be demolished for parking lots if every bureaucrat had to drive in.)
mircea_popescu: it's in the interest of greater titage.
decimation: I guess my real point is that much of DC is an uninhabitable mad max land
decimation: and the parts that aren't are bezzle-priced
mircea_popescu: why are survivalist group womenz always so a) rare and b) unattractive
decimation: I think most women (quite practically) would rather die than live in mad max land
mircea_popescu: why ?
decimation: what portion of humanity would commit suicide if they were transported to 100 AD sans iphones?
mircea_popescu: i imagine more boys than girls at any rate.
mircea_popescu: no porn right ?
decimation: heh good point
decimation: !up mgio
mircea_popescu: I can get 1 CME every 25-50 seconds, depending on my ability to click "b".
mircea_popescu: ahaha o boy
decimation: as in "continuing medical education"?
mircea_popescu: yea
dub: hey, doing drugs is studying medicine
mircea_popescu: press b
decimation: too bad you can't sell your credits
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decimation: are you working on maintaining your medical license with the state?
mircea_popescu: who me ?!
decimation: well, why else would you be trying to hoard CME credits?
mircea_popescu: im just reading this dude's site
decimation: ah the last pscychiatrist guy?
mircea_popescu: ya
mircea_popescu: i really can't see myself getting a license from anyone to anyting.
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mgio: hello everyone
mircea_popescu: hi
mircea_popescu: The logic of a 10 year MOC exam is to keep us up to date, so it's fair to ask: what in psychiatry has changed in ten years, what are the major advances? Depakote was discovered to be the default maintenance mood stabilizer despite no evidence supporting this, but that fell into disuse at a time oddly coinciding with its patent expiration, which is suspicious but I'm no epidemiologist. Anyway, it wasn't on the test. Any
mircea_popescu: thing else? A few new medicines have come out, though none of them appeared on the test either. There's money to be made on the west coast using giant magnets, (fortunately) also not on the test. So? Was the ABPN worried I'd forget how to use MAOIs? I'm never going to use them, I have enough problems monitoring Xanax. The astonishing truth is that despite millions of dollars and hundreds of academic careers psychiatry
mircea_popescu: has made no progress in almost 20 years, let alone ten, a claim no other medical specialty can make, and the truth which cannot be spoken out loud. Hence an exam.
mircea_popescu: there.
mircea_popescu: maybe i should spend my money printing fliers of this guy's blog instead.
mircea_popescu: most of the comments are derping about the guy's identity
mircea_popescu: i wasn't aware this was a secret
decimation: the history of medicene is mostly about trying to heal people but failing miserably
decimation: why should someone in this age have a different conceit?
mircea_popescu: depends how you look at it.
mircea_popescu: do you suppose medicine is responsible for all health ? or just for those cases it picks up ?
decimation: well no one can be responsible for everything
decimation: so the latter
mircea_popescu: but currently it's mostly regarded as "the health of the population" is a thing.
mircea_popescu: by the latter criterion i'd guess medicine is mostly successful
mircea_popescu: just as long as you don't try curing things that don't have a cure
decimation: like for instance, your brain has the crazy
decimation: !up Cory
mircea_popescu: i'd be kinda curious to see how a country worked where the cure for insanity was 2 years in parliament.
mircea_popescu: and they put in padded cells the sorts of idiots that wish to spend their time running for an office instead.
decimation: I'd say most democratic systems have created this situation anyway. What kind of person wants to be a bureaucrat who appears to be in charge yet can affect nothing?
mircea_popescu: actually that's the most appealing.
mircea_popescu: ask anyone, would they rather fuck a bunch of women, or would they rather not fuck at all but be regarded by their peers as a modern casanova ?
decimation: good point, except in the former case they would be considered pond scum
mircea_popescu: hardly.
mircea_popescu: maybe by racist xenophobe male chauvinist reactionaries
decimation: lol
mircea_popescu: y con queso
decimation: Congress has a 5% approval rating
decimation: yet most congressmen get re-elected
decimation: I guess the shame of the institution doesn't attach to its individual members
decimation: I suppose there's a reason that the Washington Monument is a giant phallus, welcoming the incoming classes of young interns
mircea_popescu: lol the only reason they get re-elected is the seniority system
decimation: you think the median voter knows about committee appointments?
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mircea_popescu: no, but it makes no difference
mircea_popescu: it's like asking me if the median fridge user knows about the carnot cycle
decimation: people vote the party their parents voted generally
decimation: so it's a demographic thing, seems to me
FabianB: "<+mircea_popescu> FabianB what's unconfirmed do again ?" << number of unconfirmed transactions in btc network
mircea_popescu: i think it only appears demographic because there's allignment between the actual causes and demographics.
mircea_popescu: FabianB a nice!
mircea_popescu: $unconfirmed
empyex: mircea_popescu: 2039
mircea_popescu: are you well connected enough to do a $dblspent ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00082031 = 11.8945 BTC [+]
FabianB: mircea_popescu: source is not one of my own bitcoind but blockchain.info currently
mircea_popescu: ah
mircea_popescu: well it may be useful if you're into the nitty gritty of it, merchants could always query your service if in doubt
mircea_popescu: kinda larger sort of investment to make it go, i guess.
FabianB: hmm.. will think about dblspent
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40200 @ 0.00081835 = 32.8977 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: having a few dedicated trusted watchers certainly cheaper than "everyone" doing their own watching, and certainly better than current situation (where most everyone doesn't do any)
FabianB: yeah, source should be more decentralized for that than https://blockchain.info/double-spends probably
assbot: Bitcoin Double Spends - Blockchain.info
mircea_popescu: well if you run your own node(s) with good peerage it'd come from there
mircea_popescu: otherwise tgere;'s little value to just you know, making a web url alias
FabianB: yeah
mircea_popescu: so romania's other great blogger switched to english : http://www.jeg.ro/adrian-ghenie-pace-gallery-london-golems-looking-at-the-art-world-over-adrian-ghenie-s-shoulder-and-why-i-hate-i-or-love-it-not-sure/
assbot: Looking at the art world over Adrian Ghenies shoulder and why I hate it or love it. Not sure.
mircea_popescu: romania now has pretty much no bloggers left at all.
decimation: would you say the portion of youth in romania who speak english is equal to argentina's portion?
mircea_popescu: pretty much
mircea_popescu: i never met an intelligent young man that couldn't read it
mircea_popescu: now actually speaking it...
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mircea_popescu: ‘It’s so dark’ a still ignorant third friend completed. Couldn’t see her complexion, probably because it was in fact so dark. She wasn’t black, but that’d be something, right?
mircea_popescu: !up conwke
decimation: wtf does that mean?
mircea_popescu: it's a quoter
decimation: hehe
conwke: I haven't used IRC in years, its strange being back on
mircea_popescu: enjoi.
mircea_popescu: and im off. nn ppls!
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48394 @ 0.00081912 = 39.6405 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.043 = 0.645 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20172 @ 0.00081871 = 16.515 BTC [-] {3}
fluffypony: xmj:fluffypony: are you on skype? <- yes, fluffypony on Skype
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 595 @ 0.00237886 = 1.4154 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: How's the thing?
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=405986.msg7531748#msg7531748
assbot: {BFL} Here's a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK at your Monarch!
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: quite nice so far, but all I've really done is arrive, have a few drinks, and then have breakfast
fluffypony: will put up a blog post later today when I get a moment
pankkake: if someone still doubted this guy had serious mental troubles
fluffypony: lolwut
BingoBoingo: pankkake: How trollish are you feeling today?
pankkake: I've trolled all week, I'm nearing the end of my streak
pankkake: why?
BingoBoingo: pankkake: An experiment details in PM
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19625 @ 0.00082158 = 16.1235 BTC [+]
pankkake: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7953134
assbot: DogeCoin and Dystopia | Hacker News
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15934 @ 0.00082158 = 13.0911 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Church collapses http://www.chron.com/news/article/People-trapped-after-building-collapse-near-Katy-5582104.php
assbot: Dozens hurt at house party as room over garage collapses - Houston Chronicle
punkman: do you guys make floors out of drywall
BingoBoingo: punkman: Maybe...
punkman: why can't I have something like this on *nix, http://poshconsole.codeplex.com/
assbot: PoshConsole - Home
pankkake: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3657661
assbot: Jackson Palmer leaving Dogecoin - Slashdot
pankkake: punkman: https://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about/terminology
assbot: Terminology
pankkake: but yeah, I wish we had consoles with non-text elements
pankkake: you might say "GUIs", but I want them in screen, in ssh, and be keyboard driven only
pankkake: or at least, mainly, since you can use the mouse in some console applications…
punkman: I just figured out how to do clickable text that opens a URL in browser
punkman: guess I'll have to popup another window for graphs
punkman: or save to image file
pankkake: http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/1x0ncb/rdogecoin_is_turning_into_rbitcoin/ lol
assbot: r/dogecoin is turning into r/bitcoin : dogecoin
pankkake: I love browsing with the "controversial" sort
pankkake: http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2586pm/censorship_in_rdogecoin/
assbot: Censorship in r/dogecoin : dogecoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.0404469 = 0.6067 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0404469 = 0.5258 BTC [-]
punkman: http://acko.net/blog/on-termkit/
assbot: On TermKit Acko.net
punkman: node.js + webkit what could go wrong
pankkake: right, I've seen that one before. but as I understand it, he merged the shell and the terminal emulator
pankkake: some friends tried to do something similar (though it was to use existing applications), but it went nowhere too
punkman: pankkake: also found a hack I could copy from another app. It checks window size, makes a full-sized background, then pastes your smaller image on the right coordinates.
punkman: but fuck it, I'm just gonna pop up a window with matplotlib
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00082295 = 6.9951 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17998 @ 0.00081767 = 14.7164 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: "yes i have loads of old spreadsheets." yay, the stuff that makes plants grow
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.0008175 = 10.8728 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: "The weakest point of my company was management," said Mr. Karpelès, who was the sole executive of the company.
ThickAsThieves: http://origin-www.bloomberg.com/quote/0881422D:US
assbot: 0881422D: Stock Quote - Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust - Bloomberg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.0404469 = 1.0112 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31650 @ 0.00082303 = 26.0489 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26650 @ 0.00081701 = 21.7733 BTC [-] {3}
davout: ThickAsThieves: lulzy
punkman: "How much the hippos like Colombia can be judged from how much sex they are having. In Africa they usually become sexually active between the ages of seven and nine for males, and nine and 11 for females, but Pablo Escobar's hippos are becoming sexually active as young as three."
punkman: pedohippo
davout: hippos are very horny
punkman: "One hippo is to blame for the move upriver. Hippos live in harems. The alpha male at the Hacienda is known as El Viejo - The Old Man - and he is very powerful"
[]bot: Bet placed: 3.9794 BTC for Yes on "BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/713/ Odds: 59(Y):41(N) by coin, 54(Y):46(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.66613193 BTC. Current weight: 51,289.
punkman: 120 petahashes now
BingoBoingo: http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/298byf/fderp_a_new_bitcoin_shortonly_hedge_fund/
assbot: F.DERP, A New Bitcoin Short-Only Hedge Fund Targeting Major Bitcoin Startups : CryptoCurrency
BingoBoingo: ^ hopefully lulz accumulate
pankkake: why on this subreddit?
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Lower traffic, lingers on the front page longer...
pankkake: http://bitcoinist.net/appcoins-are-fraudulent/
assbot: Appcoins Are Fraudulent ‹ Bitcoinist.net
Mats_cd03: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 308095 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 352 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 22 hours, 40 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16687183806.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.95235
punkman: another 25%, damn
BingoBoingo: Fuck
Mats_cd03: lol
Mats_cd03: lost a bitbet?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.04047873 = 8.0957 BTC [-] {10}
BingoBoingo: Looks like the Bastille day one...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.04 = 0.56 BTC [-]
cazalla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/298dkp/mircea_popescu_promoting_rape_what_an_excellent/
assbot: Mircea Popescu, promoting rape. What an excellent PR for the community. : Bitcoin
BingoBoingo: Prolly the best TLP article http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2007/07/the_most_important_article_on.html
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: The Most Important Article On Psychiatry You Will Ever Read
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00082241 = 11.1437 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Also http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/08/4_unintended_consequences_of_s.html
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: 4 Unintended Consequences of Seroquel's Adjunct to Antidepressants Indication
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.0008234 = 20.091 BTC [+]
Mats_cd03: lol 'classic alpha male'
Mats_cd03: dummy need to read a biology book
Mats_cd03: ^needs
BingoBoingo: Hmmm... pankakke's masterpiece of #b-a blogs pissing on Doge seems to be a Maybe, but it is a slow news day...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.04397803 = 0.8356 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00082311 = 20.9893 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: mp just gets extra-provocative on a New Moon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27041 @ 0.00082206 = 22.2293 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Sh... If reddit ever found out he had a lunar cycle...
ThickAsThieves: the WereBaron
pankkake: :D
BingoBoingo: Oh, I was thinking the other 28 day cycle...
Mats_cd03: har
assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2EVVH1E.txt )
BingoBoingo: !b 5 ✂︎
Mats_cd03: as far as alpha male goes..
ThickAsThieves: chetty think of it this way, do you believe that mp thinks women should literally be raped? I assume you'd answer No. In that case, what is he really trying to say? Or, at worst, what point can be extracted from the trolling. This is the nature of most mp rants and provocation. Each a test of your filters.
Mats_cd03: my poor american education tells me you have to be wed and spawn to be classed so
pankkake: "a test of your filters". eh, I guess this is one of the best descriptions so far
pankkake: (I haven't read the article yet, I'm 3 behind…)
chetty: well I think that article is a prime example of the confusion between sex/rape and assault/rape. he makes the long standing point about not knowing what you dont know but then it gets messy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00081975 = 15.6572 BTC [-]
chetty: I think rape is a topic he should stay off, at least until he gets raped and knows what it is
Mats_cd03: http://us.wsj.com/articles/google-starts-removing-search-results-under-europes-right-to-be-forgotten-1403774023 courts corrupted by nonsense, again
ThickAsThieves: he's playing to your sensitivities, which, by nature, is bound to be insensitive
Mats_cd03: oops wsj.com/articles/google-starts-removing-search-results-under-europes-right-to-be-forgotten-1403774023
ThickAsThieves: I try not to do that, but mp loves it
chetty: normally I support the way he does that, it really does make people think. But everything has limits
chetty: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-26/nirp-strikes-spain-create-tax-bank-deposits
assbot: NIRP Strikes: Spain To Create Tax On Bank Deposits | Zero Hedge
chetty: translation: banksters can't have it all, we gubermint types get our cut first
ThickAsThieves: You could flip it on him; what insecurities put him in a position to be insensitive and provocative? In what ways is he enslaved by his nature? Why is he trying to understand the nature of rape and taboos?
pankkake: chetty: this is funny how the Euro really doesn't work; countries resort to things that have the same effects as printing money themselves
ThickAsThieves: maybe he just wants to be loved and the world he's created for himself leaves no room for it, and thus maybe constructs one that makes his seem ideal
penguirker: New blog post: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/27/fullnode-co-is-a-scam/
ThickAsThieves: just thinking out loud
chetty: deconstructing MP, fun pastime
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00081975 = 6.476 BTC [-]
chetty: pankkake, its fun to watch the lament about the poor 'unbanked' while they drive people away from banks
pankkake: MP just wants to be loved.
chetty: hmm or perhaps worshiped
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28900 @ 0.00081753 = 23.6266 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "I doubt even 0.1% people here support rape of any kind." lol
Mats_cd03: It’s the dream of every living creature. The desire that is the very root of life itself: to grow until all the space you can see is part of you, under your control. It’s the desire for greatness. There are two ways, though, to fulfill it. One way is to kill anything that is not yourself, to swallow it up or destroy it, until nothing is left to oppose
Mats_cd03: you. You say to all the universe, Only I will be great, and to make room for me the rest of you must give up even what you already have, and become nothing.
Mats_cd03: The other way is an exercise for the reader.
ThickAsThieves: ;;google What percentage of people support rape?
gribble: The Offenders | RAINN | Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network: <https://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-offenders>; Who are the Victims? - Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network: <https://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims>; Rape statistics - The Hathor Legacy: <http://thehathorlegacy.com/rape-statistics/>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00081657 = 3.3479 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Node behavior battles have begun: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/298gmv/bitcoin_miner_txselection_prioritisation_as_a/
assbot: Bitcoin miner TX-selection: "prioritisation as a business model encourages centralisation and is incompatible with p2pool. Very harmful patch" : Bitcoin
pankkake: lol that peter todd…
BingoBoingo: It hasn't been a good month for him, next should be worse
pankkake: the patch isn't harmful in the sense at it's just an user interface option. it always was possible, and pools are offering it already
pankkake: hm apparently OP_RETURN is by default not relayed. but if it ever is, I might patch my node :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28617 @ 0.00081644 = 23.3641 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.0400008 = 1.4 BTC [-] {4}
pankkake: feminists selling S.MPOE
chetty: pankkake, hey don't insult folks, feminist is a dirty word no matter what you think of rape
pankkake: I'm in a trolly mood
BingoBoingo: Things that WTF https://github.com/btcrobinhood/bips/blob/master/bip-1337.mediawiki
assbot: bips/bip-1337.mediawiki at master btcrobinhood/bips GitHub
nubbins`: re:anonymity, can't be abolished
nubbins`: you can restrict it in certain contexts, sure
BingoBoingo: !up Corey
BingoBoingo: !up Poffertje
nubbins`: ;;view 20908
gribble: #20908 Fri Jun 27 09:21:50 2014 freewil SELL 973.5 BTC @ 565 USD (escrowed wire)
xmj: Gentlemen.
nubbins`: hi
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57100 @ 0.00081573 = 46.5782 BTC [-] {3}
punkman: nubbins`, you ever try printing on wool tshirts?
nubbins`: hmm, no
nubbins`: i guess if the weave was fine enough, it'd work
nubbins`: like merino wool
punkman: yeah shirts like these: http://frozenlabs.com/merino-tshirts-roundup
assbot: Frozenlabs: Merino tshirts roundup
nubbins`: i feel like maybe merino has some sort of natural coating on it, but i'd say between the few types of ink we have, something would stick
nubbins`: artificial fibers like polyester and nylon are the shitty ones
davout: ok, so peter todd is officially braindamaged
davout: https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/482517060019175424
assbot: Just-merged /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash Core feature enables easier miner TX-selection, private-submit policy experimentation: https://t.co/LzQRIXHtb9
pankkake: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/28xp8u/lets_clear_this_up_peter_todd_is_not_a_bitcoin/
assbot: Let's clear this up: Peter Todd *is not* a Bitcoin core dev, just a contributor. : Bitcoin
pankkake: can someone ban reddit from the internet
cazalla: upboat
ThickAsThieves: !down reddit
nubbins`: USMS should liveblog the auction
ThickAsThieves: it's silent, no?
mod6: %p
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.77 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 49.25 GH/s
pankkake: %diff
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 391405.45 in 1648 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -23.48
BingoBoingo: %b
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1206 @ 0.00081628 = 0.9844 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24144 @ 0.0008172 = 19.7305 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: t
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41500 @ 0.00081497 = 33.8213 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: %t
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 2k High: 199 Low: 199 VWAP: 198
BingoBoingo: %book
atcbot: 45k@277 48k@275 60k@238 | 970k@199 750k@175 216k@160
ThickAsThieves: “Normally, we would expect the price to hit bottom around the time of the auction or soon after. Bitcoin isn’t that liquid so the sale will be hard to swallow. It is unlikely that anyone will bid above the market price – it would make more sense to just to buy in the market in bits and pieces and it’s not as if there is indication that there is bitcoin demand that is unmet
ThickAsThieves: because it is hard to buy lumpy amounts. There is simply little demand for lumpy amounts.” ~ Citi Propaganda Dept
ThickAsThieves: i guess theull be bidding too
pankkake: it is true that bitcoin isn't that liquid, but I don't see how the other pieces fall into place
BingoBoingo: ;;buy 25000
gribble: (buy [--long] <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a buy order for <amount> units of <thing>, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, (1 more message)
pankkake: for the same reason I don't understand the "they will dump it on the open market". the open market probably can't handle it
pankkake: ;;market buy 25000
gribble: Bitstamp | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 16329.832 bitcoins, for a total of 23682810.1935 USD and take the price to 99999.9900. | Data vintage: 90.7398 seconds
pankkake: ;;market sell 25000
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to sell 25000 bitcoins right now would net 10519377.0202 USD and would take the last price down to 111.2300 USD, resulting in an average price of 420.7751 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 99.1681 seconds
pankkake: yeah. not gonna happen
BingoBoingo: And this is why they can't be bought piecemeal
BingoBoingo: Not in that quantity, not anymore
ThickAsThieves: i wish i could find the original text from Citi
ThickAsThieves: seems odd everyone is quoting Englander with no source
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 588.04, Best ask: 588.12, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 589.93, 24 hour volume: 6760.55725360, 24 hour low: 564.23, 24 hour high: 589.97, 24 hour vwap: 578.979584755
thestringpuller: !mpif
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: “We have no discretion,” Mr. Silbert said. “We are bidding based on where all the bids come in into our syndicate.” I guess 2ndmkt aint getting any coins
BingoBoingo: Or perhaps all of them
BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/06/tiny-elephant-like-mammal-discovered-in-namib-desert/
assbot: Tiny elephant-like mammal discovered in Namib Desert | Ars Technica
BingoBoingo: ;;market buy 1000
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 593471.4254 USD and would take the last price up to 595.8300 USD, resulting in an average price of 593.4714 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0304 seconds
BingoBoingo: ;;market buy 2000
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to buy 2000 bitcoins right now would take 1193776.1987 USD and would take the last price up to 604.4400 USD, resulting in an average price of 596.8881 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 17.1216 seconds
BingoBoingo: ;;market buy 10000
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 6421070.0506 USD and would take the last price up to 749.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 642.1070 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 28.3633 seconds
BingoBoingo: ;;market buy 15000
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to buy 15000 bitcoins right now would take 11054841.5105 USD and would take the last price up to 1200.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 736.9894 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 42.5405 seconds
ThickAsThieves: so yeah $650+
pankkake: You can also change the market. however, the supposedly higher volume markets have much smaller books
ThickAsThieves: the volume is largely traders
ThickAsThieves: the larger shifts in price are "real" buyers & sellers
BingoBoingo: Right, and I'd imagine more orders get cancelled than actually fulfilled
ThickAsThieves: that's why your buy 1000 works fine, but starts to break afte rthat
ThickAsThieves: cuz the traders post walls in the OTE zones
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26950 @ 0.00081486 = 21.9605 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: OTE?
ThickAsThieves: optimal trade entry (fibonacci)
ThickAsThieves: .618 thru .786
ThickAsThieves: still learning fib stuff though
ThickAsThieves: it's used all over the place
mike_c: TaT, you know this technical crap is snake oil, right?
mike_c: fibonacci your tea leaves
mike_c: ;;8ball should i buy or sell?
gribble: Yes!
ThickAsThieves: well i'd say it's got at least some potency
ThickAsThieves: cant know much about where youre going when you dont know where youve been
mike_c: hehe. you going to report results?
ThickAsThieves: rape me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00081777 = 4.4568 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i'll report them if i do well, obv
ThickAsThieves: ;)
ThickAsThieves: so far so good
mike_c: that would be a good blog series. include results on some normalized scale with each post.
ThickAsThieves: i keep a daily mark with minimal notes, i also publish a chart every few days at least
mike_c: publish where?
ThickAsThieves: watch me tiptoe through the tulips here: https://www.tradingview.com/u/BitcoinAssets/#published-charts
assbot: BitcoinAssets - TradingView
BingoBoingo: ;;8ball
gribble: No clue.
ThickAsThieves: the daily mark is not published
ThickAsThieves: may never be
ThickAsThieves: but if there's useful info i'll find a way to convey it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00081462 = 14.6632 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: i dont necessarily trade exactly to my published charts, but you can at least see me learn over time
ThickAsThieves: i can say i will never post a chart to manipulate
mike_c: and the fact that you can put your fibonacci elliot waves on a random walk chart doesn't bother you?
ThickAsThieves: bother may be the wrong word, but i make no claim to being expert
mike_c: expert in what?? predicting randomness?
mike_c: </rant>
ThickAsThieves: humans are random?
mike_c: that's a big question obv. but i do believe short term price movements are random.
ThickAsThieves: It's not a question to me, humans are not random, nor is a marketplace. Sure, anything CAN happen, but some things are more likely to happen than others and there are ways to approximate that. You could even go in another direction and consider that if traders believe this shit, it self-manifests to some degree. Is it better to know the script, with option to follow it, or not know it
ThickAsThieves: at all?
ThickAsThieves: the option to learn and practice this is only as expensive as i permit it to be
mike_c: if traders are all following the same script there is no profit to be made..
ThickAsThieves: in that rigid example, of course
ThickAsThieves: but it's all things, not one
artifexd: mircea_popescu: No, she can't. Give me an example of how you would use it and what you would expect in return and I'll see what I can do.
mircea_popescu: artifexd http://bitbet.us/browse/ << fill in those fields hit search
assbot: Browse BitBet
artifexd: For example: "[]bb earthquakes" would return the bet closing soonest and a bet odds summary
punkman: mthreat could grab my bitbet database if he wanted to add it to the main search
artifexd: Or do you want the biggest? A link to a dpaste with links? I mean, what do you want her to show in here?
artifexd: Should she take sorting options? Return the top 5 bets and links? Only the top bet in the search?
TheNewDeal: eathquales, wtf?
artifexd: Just an example. :)
artifexd: "[]bb world cup" could return a whole lot of results.
pankkake: there actually was a bet about earthquakes
pankkake: actually, there are 3 open
TheNewDeal: ahh I gotcha
TheNewDeal: I thought you were saying earthquake was the command to return the closing soonest and odds summary...
TheNewDeal: ;;nethash
gribble: 1.72688358042
artifexd: Oh. Nah.
TheNewDeal: what is that?
TheNewDeal: thought nethash usualy returns something like 1.17E10 or whatever
mircea_popescu: o hey that patriarchy article yielded quite the scandal huh
mircea_popescu: punkman he could but this has params
punkman: yeah, easier to query the SQL than html search
punkman: but I can add search function to the library, was planning to anyway
mircea_popescu: ah yeah
mircea_popescu: wait which lib is this ?
punkman: the lib bitbet.py uses
mircea_popescu: o hey cool.
mircea_popescu: is artifexd's bot based onm bitbet.py ?
mircea_popescu: (sorry for the noob questions, i'm new here and i don't even code)
punkman: nah
mircea_popescu: !up _biO_
punkman: he made the bot before I published bitbet.py
mircea_popescu: artifexd take a param. nth
mircea_popescu: defaults to 1
artifexd: My bot is written from scratch by me.
mircea_popescu: wd!
artifexd: Bitbet's search can return json so it isn't a problem. Just add /.json to the end.
mircea_popescu: i always wondered what "from scratch" really means. like, someone got an itch and so the software is written from scratch ? :D
mircea_popescu: a that's right.
mircea_popescu: The things he said, like "Josh is not gay, he's bi" or "Sonny fucked the girls from the production line" sound more like irrelevant bullshit from a crazy person than credible information.
mircea_popescu: wait, sonny doesn't fuck the production line girls ?! that lozer.
_biO_: seems like I have voice
_biO_: what do i do now, halp
mircea_popescu: lol. who're you ?
_biO_: I am _biO_, obviously
_biO_: soon to be voiceless, I guess.
mthreat: everyone gets their 30 minutes of fame
mircea_popescu: pankkake: you might say "GUIs", but I want them in screen, in ssh, and be keyboard driven only << kinda like all glyphs no ?
mircea_popescu: back in the day on the z80 you could define the 8x8 bitmap of a glyph
mircea_popescu: use special glyph sets as poor man's grapics.
mircea_popescu: resulting in these bitmaps that could only be colored in 8x8 chunks
punkman: ;;view 20793
gribble: #20793 Wed Jun 18 21:37:08 2014 punkman SELL 1.0 app @ 2 BTC (Interactive commandline application, written in Python, using curses/ncurses.)
_biO_: i once build a window manager in basic
_biO_: :(
_biO_: with ASCII art etc
mircea_popescu: _biO_ so yu worked for windows 2.0 ?
pankkake: that looks like a cool solution
mircea_popescu: i made so many 8x8 tanks and rockets...
pankkake: punkman: so you're selling the application, but the library it uses is open, is that right?
punkman: no that's bespoke application
punkman: bitbet.py is free
mircea_popescu: he's doing the red hat thing
punkman: like if you hate namecheap, I could make a custom namecheap app to reduce the suffering
pankkake: ooh you're selling dev ok
mike_c: how good are you at DNS :)
mircea_popescu: lol
TheNewDeal: what's going on with gribble's nethash?
mircea_popescu: mike_c you should prolly pester dub. i'd love nothing more than to see him abjectly slaving away for a group of internet funbuxfans
punkman: mike_c, only incidental experience with DNS stuff
kakobrekla: http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2014/06/27/qa-with-mt-goxs-karpeles-what-went-wrong/
assbot: Q&A With Mt. Goxs Karpels: What Went Wrong? - Japan Real Time - WSJ
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: "The weakest point of my company was management," said Mr. Karpelès, who was the sole executive of the company. << lol
artifexd: http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/39551/where-does-the-saying-made-from-scratch-originate
assbot: meaning - Where does the saying "made from scratch" originate? - English Language & Usage Stack Exchange
mthreat: physical attacks...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00081489 = 15.4829 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o hey boxing
nubbins`: kako, i read that earlier
nubbins`: so cringe
punkman: that's a lot of quit:
mircea_popescu: wtf that reddit link BingoBoingo posted... who the fuck designs those headers.
ThickAsThieves: probly theymos
mircea_popescu: cazalla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/298dkp/mircea_popescu_promoting_rape_what_an_excellent/ << wait im in the "community" nao ?
assbot: Mircea Popescu, promoting rape. What an excellent PR for the community. : Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: i thought they were over there.
ThickAsThieves: you cant escape the community
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.1955002 = 0.9775 BTC [-]
artifexd: Just a reminder: []bot only reports bets over 1BTC in here. If you want to see them all, join ##bitbet-rt.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.1942 = 0.7768 BTC [-]
TheNewDeal: there's no one in ##bitbet-rt
TheNewDeal: nvm
artifexd: Uh...
TheNewDeal: client was grabbing the period
artifexd: Oh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00081777 = 22.6931 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-27/trade-of-the-day-buy-a-bitcoin so horrible
assbot: Trade of the Day: Buy a Bitcoin - Bloomberg View
TheNewDeal: agreed, that was horrid
FabianB: $traded
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: D.BPAY S.MPOE S.WOL X.EUR
ThickAsThieves: S.WOL is currently priceless
ThickAsThieves: such investment
TheNewDeal: Science ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibUG-GiwJ80
assbot: SanWe sperm collector - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00081777 = 17.1323 BTC [+]
chetty: http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/06/27/report-mexican-military-chopper-crosses-into-us-shoots-at-border-agents/
assbot: Report: Mexican Military Chopper Crosses Into US, Shoots At Border Agents « CBS Las Vegas
mircea_popescu: $depth s.wol
empyex: mircea_popescu: [S.WOL] Bids: 51900 @ 0.00003999 30000 @ 0.00003513 500000 @ 0.00003500
empyex: mircea_popescu: [S.WOL] Asks:
mircea_popescu: nuts, nobody selling ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.1941 = 0.7764 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: much investors.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.194 = 0.776 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.19310353 = 1.1586 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.80475851 BTC to 9`663 shares, 18677 satoshi per share
pankkake: bagholders
rithm: Rainbow Thor, wtf is that
mircea_popescu: whoa i just had an epiphany. someone linked the tlp blog just as i was reading davout's comment on rettardit and it struck me.
mircea_popescu: listen to this : "There are a few popular people that most of the community agree with, like Andreas Antonopoulos, but he is just a presenter, a tech-evangelist."
mircea_popescu: this, read through tlp's eyes, says "we only accept those who have no power, merely the trappings of power"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.1931003 = 2.5103 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: that's the fucking problem at the bottom of it : a class of people that have been trained to equate power with badness and powerlessness with goodness.
mircea_popescu: the perfect ideology, especially from the pov of the shepherd, for the use of domestic sheep.
nubbins`: all hail the queen
rithm: badness and goodness are moral constructs
mircea_popescu: no fucking wonder faux feminism is all the rage.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` heya.
nubbins`: hi
chetty: well its the way things are, we mostly never see the puppet masters, just the puppets
mircea_popescu: i wonder if lovecraft;'s intuition is correct, if the mere sight of chtulhu would drive one mad.
nubbins`: the whole thing about angles that didn't make sense always made me feel funny
mircea_popescu: "If he is a left winger he will get a pass from the feminist community, maybe a slap on the wrist. If not then the mighty thunder of Rainbow Thor and his unicorn shaped hammer will hit him bad. Let's wait and see..."
mircea_popescu: pity it can't be a bitbet.
mircea_popescu: i don't think the feminist was born with the guts to engage me.
pankkake: source?
mircea_popescu: btctalk thread the reddt thing lnks to
kakobrekla: !up _biO_
chetty: we should ban the word community, I am offended
xmj: chetty: please talk more about your feelings
ThickAsThieves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhbT73ZG2Q&feature=kp
assbot: Depeche Mode - I Feel You (HQ) - YouTube
chetty: well my butt is numb from sitting too long, does that count?
HeySteve: <+mircea_popescu> that's the fucking problem at the bottom of it : a class of people that have been trained to equate power with badness and powerlessness with goodness. <- Nietzche described it as slave morality, as opposed to master morality
mircea_popescu: indeed.
xmj: harrumpf
xmj: once i agree with mircea_popescu
HeySteve: I believe he was speaking about Christianity, but it applies equally well to the religion of equalism
mircea_popescu: the thing is, christianity is old. equalitarianism is young.
kakobrekla: xmj watch it, soon you wont be able to stop.
nubbins`: ;;google egalitarianism
gribble: Egalitarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egalitarianism>; Egalitarianism - Merriam-Webster Online: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/egalitarianism>; Egalitarian | Define Egalitarian at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/egalitarian>
nubbins`: you were both so close
asciilifeform: as i recall, he applied it as a general principle - christianity being an example of the clusterfuck that happens when 'the slaves win.'
mircea_popescu: as such, for a short time 19th-20th century christianity was forced out of shape for the needs of the equalitarian ideology of the time
xmj: kakobrekla: I doubt that.
mircea_popescu: now that religion is no longer useful pushing the cart of state, it's slowly getting back into its original shape
HeySteve: mircea_popescu sure, but I believe the roots of equalism are in Christian universalism
mircea_popescu: except thatr's unchristian.
HeySteve: everyone being equal before God, and such notions
mircea_popescu: it's episcopalian or w/e bullshit neoprotestant sect
mircea_popescu: that's christian in the sense the us is european
HeySteve: iow not any more :P
BingoBoingo: <HeySteve> <+mircea_popescu> that's the fucking problem at the bottom of it : a class of people that have been trained to equate power with badness and powerlessness with goodness. <- Nietzche described it as slave morality, as opposed to master morality << You mispelled Hegel
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo and also kant.
asciilifeform: (christianity has a rather wide operating envelope - e.g. conquistador was permitted to behead untermenschen so long as they're baptized first, etc)
mircea_popescu: he misspelled anyone with a clue, what's he to do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform see ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure, I'm wondering how far the chan could walk this back...
mircea_popescu: kyon.
BingoBoingo: Sucks that by jumping ahead to Kant we skipped Fichte
mircea_popescu: actually is that even meaningful
mircea_popescu: ;;google kyon
gribble: Kyon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyon>; KYON Veterinary Surgical Products | Cruciate Repair, Total Hip ...: <http://www.kyon.ch/>; Kyon - Haruhi Wiki: <http://haruhi.wikia.com/wiki/Kyon>
mircea_popescu: meh.
mircea_popescu: ;;google diogene of sinope
gribble: Diogenes of Sinope - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope>; Diogenes of Sinope [Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy]: <http://www.iep.utm.edu/diogsino/>; Diogenes of Sinope - Wikiquote: <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope>
BingoBoingo: This prolly goes back to the Serpent's argument to Eve about the Apple.
HeySteve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJNZNwxEzE4 :D
assbot: Monty Python-Philosopher's Beer Drinking Song - YouTube
BingoBoingo: %book
atcbot: 45k@277 48k@275 60k@238 | 970k@199 750k@175 216k@160
pankkake: "All backers still waiting on their rings to ship will have received an email from us yesterday." no I haven't!!!
pankkake: (nfc ring kickstarter)
nubbins`: no, you WILL have
nubbins`: ;D
kakobrekla: >When Plato gave Socrates' definition of man as "featherless bipeds" and was much praised for the definition, Diogenes plucked a chicken and brought it into Plato's Academy, saying, "Behold! I've brought you a man." After this incident, "with broad flat nails" was added to Plato's definition.
kakobrekla: dat trollage.
ThickAsThieves: <+pankkake> (nfc ring kickstarter) /// i got mine last week
thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 308135 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 312 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 17 hours, 22 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16657399281.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.73111
ThickAsThieves: it arrives not assembled or something, so i havent bothered to sort it out yet
BingoBoingo: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/295las/35_of_my_btc_gone_pc_not_compromised/
assbot: 35 of my BTC gone. PC not compromised. : Bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 643 @ 0.00081534 = 0.5243 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72395 @ 0.00081355 = 58.897 BTC [-] {4}
ThickAsThieves: "This is exactly why we need Mycelium Entropy."
nubbins`: btc robin hood to the rescue
nubbins`: !up darlidada
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04299999 = 0.516 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: %t
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 238 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 2k High: 199 Low: 199 VWAP: 198
BingoBoingo: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 388489.39 in 1635 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -24.05
kakobrekla: this is what Stanford gets you : http://shrani.si/f/33/CQ/16VLLSAv/stanford.png
ThickAsThieves: Awesome
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> dat trollage. << yup
ThickAsThieves: you shouldve asked them how much to print a bitcoin FUD article
kakobrekla: feel free, the apps are still open
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla wtf first time lol
mircea_popescu: i got the same in 2012.
nubbins`: haha
mircea_popescu: back when sara wood was still a guy
nubbins`: if you can't buy an ad it'll be hard for us to not call you a piece of shit in our rag
mircea_popescu: lol
nubbins`: "Sincerely, X, Major I completed two fuckin years ago"
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> back when sara wood was still a guy /// lolz
mircea_popescu: wait that's a different wood
nubbins`: imagine being so creatively bankrupt and without skill that you have to put your university, major, and graduating year in your email sig
kakobrekla: so its first time _as a female_
kakobrekla: thats kate wood rite
nubbins`: ^ that sounds familiar
mircea_popescu: craig/cringe wood
kakobrekla: nubbins` dont tell me you fucked him?!
mircea_popescu: lol
nubbins`: hey, it's all anus in the dark
kakobrekla: hehe
mircea_popescu: no its not
mircea_popescu: man anus feels different
mircea_popescu: oshit.
nubbins`: :0
kakobrekla: lel
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nubbins`: !b 6 ✂︎
kakobrekla: you need to put some padding on b
ThickAsThieves: manus
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kakobrekla: !b 10 ✂︎
ThickAsThieves: someone should discover an exotic fruit and name it mananus
mircea_popescu: totally.
mircea_popescu: maybe we should run a campaign to rename ananas
ThickAsThieves: banalanus
mircea_popescu: this could be a decent mp sketch.
mircea_popescu: the florist shop where they only sell anus-renamed fruit
mircea_popescu: right across the street from the famous cheese shop
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/part-2-bitcoin-difficulty-hash-target/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.04049409 = 1.2148 BTC [-] {7}
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: misread sentence as 'maybe we should run a campaign to rename antennas. ThickAsThieves: balunus'
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: ;;ud balun
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Balun | trending. strikeout · wcw · bae · sapiosexual · mc 10:35 · swag · bougie · catfish · poopsterbate · surfboard. categories. gaming · sports · food · sex · tv · film ...
asciilifeform: fail
nubbins`: ;;ud sapiosexual
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sapiosexual | sapiosexual. One who finds intelligence the most sexually attractive feature. "I want an incisive, inquisitive, insightful, irreverent mind. I want someone for whom  ...
mircea_popescu: you're too cuntercultural for urban dictionrary
asciilifeform: mycelium machine << it still isn't clear to me - are they actually sampling an sram, or just using atmel's turd which purports to do so internally
asciilifeform: (i investigated the sram method personally, was not satisfied with the results)
mircea_popescu: "Ratchet is If Ghetto and Hot Shitty Mess had a baby, and that baby had no father, and became a stripper, then made a sex tape with an athlete, then became a reality star!"
mircea_popescu: dude look at that, they just described pink
pankkake: ;;ud TRP
gribble: http://sv.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TRP | Tentacle Rape Porn. A form of Japanese erotica in which tentacled creatures ( octopuses, squids, etc.) have sex with people. "Dude, I saw some awesome TRP  ...
pankkake: "You posted another of his articles on a submission of mine, and I ignored it because I thought the article was terrible, un-self-aware TRP crap, but it wasn't worth replying to" I'm not sure this is it
pankkake: oh, "TRP reddit" gives me The Red Pill
mircea_popescu: whats trp ?
mircea_popescu: oic
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36850 @ 0.00081455 = 30.0162 BTC [+]
benkay: wannabe alphas teaching wannabe alphas to be wannabe alphas
mircea_popescu: ipo yet ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00081777 = 6.1333 BTC [+]
benkay: ipo's are pososphere feminist brainwashing man
mircea_popescu: what's poso- ?
mircea_popescu: dude i learn more new words here than in #new-words
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: chetty think of it this way, do you believe that mp thinks women should literally be raped? I assume you'd answer No. In that case, what is he really trying to say? Or, at worst, what point can be extracted from the trolling. This is the nature of most mp rants and provocation. Each a test of your filters. << y u trolling me1
mircea_popescu: pankkake: (I haven't read the article yet, I'm 3 behind…) << peed on the test yet ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.1931003 = 0.7724 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: I try not to do that, but mp loves it << why, incidentally ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 67 @ 0.03757314 = 2.5174 BTC [-] {15}
mircea_popescu: pankkake "more than four times as much nodes" > as many. much works as a comparative for uncuntable items only. as much money, as much police. if the substance is discrete, more. more nodes, more tits.
mircea_popescu: bah. i mean, many nodes, many tits.
pankkake: peed on what?
mircea_popescu: ;;google pregnancy test
gribble: When to Take Pregnancy Tests - WebMD: Home Tests, False ...: <http://www.webmd.com/baby/guide/pregnancy-tests>; Early Results Pregnancy Test | FIRST RESPONSE™: <http://www.firstresponse.com/early-pregnancy-test>; Pregnancy test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy_test>
pankkake: good catch, I know the difference, but didn't reread myself
pankkake: oh, being behind, I get it
mircea_popescu: SSH into it, and run “apt-get install bitcoind”. Forget about it. << they need to run it too no ?
pankkake: no, debian usually runs the daemon by default, but not all packages
pankkake: I haven't checked
pankkake: sometimes you need to edit /etc/conf.d/<name>
pankkake: or is it /etc/defaults
mircea_popescu: right
mircea_popescu: just saying, about 1/3 or more of ppl doing what you say don't do anything at all
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: It hasn't been a good month for him, next should be worse << oddly, too. i kinda like the guy, but he's been acting erratically of late.
BingoBoingo: He's only lately started going off the deep end. I hope he didn't catch anything from tortilla
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves: I try not to do that, but mp loves it << why, incidentally ? /// I have an different appreciation for the human condition? A skepticism for anything leaning too far in any direction? I didnt end up in art, music, design and marketing and such by accident, my brain tries to tune to empathy for some reason. I don't always behave in kind, but it's probably
ThickAsThieves: my initial state of response. Also probably why I try to question things and myself in new ways. Also maybe why I'm vegan, etc. Or something else, fukt if i know.
mircea_popescu: that's your response as to why you try not to touch people ?!
ThickAsThieves: touch?
mircea_popescu: well yes. as in "a touching remark"
ThickAsThieves: no, i meant i try not to assualt the individual as a means of communication
ThickAsThieves: verbally or otherwise
chetty: different people respond to different levels of touch
mircea_popescu: well... can't have one w/o the other can you.
mircea_popescu: but fundamentally, it'll have to be touch.
ThickAsThieves: maybe it's a point of finesse or just of preference
ThickAsThieves: i dont mine saying ideas that some might find offensive
ThickAsThieves: but i also wouldnt use rape as a metaphor
mircea_popescu: maybe you're just used to talking to people who speak the same language.
ThickAsThieves: mind*
chetty: the person that responds to a light touch may be further put off by brute force and the reverse
mircea_popescu: chetty how would you know apriori what's what ?
mircea_popescu: i mean, if you're racist, ie, strictly intend to live within your subgroup, then yea, just look up the official subgroup table.
ThickAsThieves: note, i never said MP should not write this way
mircea_popescu: but if you're not, you're stuck, there's no good translation.
ThickAsThieves: simply that i wouldnt
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i know, i know.
ThickAsThieves: i enjoy the challenge of reading your work
ThickAsThieves: whether i agree or not
chetty: And I was just sayin both have their place
mircea_popescu: so then we have no substantial disagreement on the table at all ?
ThickAsThieves: not really, i was mostly trying to interpret your being to chetty
ThickAsThieves: hold him, as it were
ThickAsThieves: :)
mircea_popescu: lol
chetty: her*
ThickAsThieves: aha!
ThickAsThieves: i wasnt sure
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: USMS should liveblog the auction << sadly, the website to do that wouldcost the usg more than the auction's worth
mircea_popescu: mike_c: TaT, you know this technical crap is snake oil, right? << but he likes it.
mircea_popescu: consider this : it's a scientific fact that you having sex does exactly 0 for your team. but what if you had sex during all the games, on the conviction that a good fuck will make your team win ?
mircea_popescu: wouldn't the win be pretty enjoyable then ?
mircea_popescu: in an economy of subjective utility, snake oil is economically relevant.
rithm: when does the auction happen again
rithm: next month?
mike_c: the wins would be enjoyable. not sure how the losses would affect my conviction.
mike_c: *effect
mike_c: whichever
benkay: go long, dca, forget trading.
mike_c: rithm: right now.
benkay: unless you're on someone else's book and getting paid for it.
rithm: oh
rithm: link?
rithm: anything to watch?
mike_c: nothing to watch. it's private.
rithm: snooze
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 588.41, Best ask: 589.51, Bid-ask spread: 1.10000, Last trade: 588.41, 24 hour volume: 6799.05133464, 24 hour low: 566.25, 24 hour high: 590.0, 24 hour vwap: 581.060682823
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 110.72909372 BTC to 77`492 shares, 142891 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> the wins would be enjoyable. not sure how the losses would affect my conviction. << precisely. producing overall a net gain.
benkay: ;;later tell princesnell mircea_popescu wants to know more about poso*
gribble: The operation succeeded.
benkay: ask the anthropologist.
mike_c: well, that wasn't entirely accurate. i do know how the losses would affect my conviction. it would change it.
mircea_popescu: yours.
mircea_popescu: but you're not a subjective utilitatirst. maybe
mircea_popescu: maybe you don't even respond to placebo worth a crao
mike_c: i'll start taking them and report back.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: It's not a question to me, humans are not random, nor is a marketplace. Sure, anything CAN happen, but some things are more likely to happen than others and there are ways to approximate that. You could even go in another direction and consider that if traders believe this shit, it self-manifests to some degree. Is it better to know the script, with option to follow it, or not know it << this is like re
mircea_popescu: ading calvin.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12736 @ 0.00081685 = 10.4034 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "One of the central themes of the postmodern critique of our values is that aesthetics must trump truth as long as aesthetics remains undefined. That’s the semiotic conundrum, why psychiatry is politics: the truth is demanded only when it supports a preset ideology."
mircea_popescu: heh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11114 @ 0.00081685 = 9.0785 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 7.63386216 BTC to 29`438 shares, 25932 satoshi per share
pankkake: http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ <= why didn't this make any noise?
assbot: I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
pankkake: could be posted on girlsgonebitcoin too
mircea_popescu: pls do.
mircea_popescu: i was asking yest for it. i thought moiety posted it ?
mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu:
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ << somebody with a reddit account please drop this in the whatever sluts subreddit and anyone that does a lot of camsites or whatever - spread it wouldja.
assbot: I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
pankkake: probably shouldn't do it with my current troll account, but i'll uptits it
pankkake: btw, YOU have a reddit account
ThickAsThieves: John Calvin?
chetty: http://www.newsforage.com/2014/06/red-cross-how-we-spent-sandy-money-is.html
assbot: Red Cross: How We Spent Sandy Money Is a ‘Trade Secret’ - The charity is fighting a public records request for information on how it raised and spent money after the superstorm ~ News Forage
mircea_popescu: i do ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yea
ThickAsThieves: all i know is from skimming the wiki
mircea_popescu: they had this p[redetermination doctrine.
ThickAsThieves: beieved destiny is predetermined, god knows all, incl future
mircea_popescu: ya
ThickAsThieves: so i'm aspiring to be godlike, big deal
ThickAsThieves: who isnt
Mats_cd03: i aspire to godhood.
mircea_popescu: not exactly. more like you aspire to be godlike on the theory that the world's a sausage press.
mircea_popescu: that's kinda what the reformation was, the rebellion of sausage makers against all this bs latin learning.
mircea_popescu: citizen theory.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.02688262 = 0.5377 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: It's not adding more of the same drug, it is like adding a second drug. It's not more Effexor; it's taking a maxed out SSRI, and adding a NRI. It's like being with Princess Leia, but then adding Princess Ardala. And if you understood that joke, you should put down Yars' Revenge and kill yourself.
mircea_popescu: anyone wish to explain the joke to me ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1036 @ 0.00081712 = 0.8465 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i think it's Princess Armadala
ThickAsThieves: both from Star Wars
ThickAsThieves: and Yars is an old atari game
ThickAsThieves: i think it says, for a nerd, this is totally awesome
ThickAsThieves: that, or totally impossible
ThickAsThieves: not sure
mircea_popescu: not yet a joke tho
mircea_popescu: i guess maybe he means "chuckle worthy reference" = joke
ThickAsThieves: absurd
BingoBoingo: Well, symptom of being American...
ThickAsThieves: maybe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12948 @ 0.00081455 = 10.5468 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: “BTCjam has been a great resource, connecting me with investors globally, and allowing me to expand my business in ways I hadn't even thought were possible. Thanks!”
chetty: <mircea_popescu> It's not adding more of the same drug, it is like adding a second drug. It's not more Effexor; it's taking a maxed out SSRI, and adding a NRI. It's like being with Princess Leia, but then adding Princess Ardala. And if you understood that joke, you should put down Yars' Revenge and kill yourself.//bad nerd attempt to make an inside joke
benkay: in america, the joke has been reduced to the reference
benkay: "how about them TSA lines?!?!?!?!" har har har
benkay: and audiences reduced to ovations over laughter
benkay: it's a travesty
ThickAsThieves: BTCJam has loaned out more than 23,000 BTC to people like you. Simple and Fast online application process.
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Namworld: ...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00081616 = 37.2169 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin/comments/299ee9/opportunity_to_get_01btc_for_your_tits_on_irc/ http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/comments/299gau/opportunity_to_get_01btc_for_your_tits_on_irc/ upboobage request
assbot: reddit.com: over 18?
assbot: reddit.com: over 18?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19963 @ 0.00081874 = 16.3445 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2997du/warning_the_bitcoin_journal_is_a_fraud/ MP was right, Sara is likely not a girl
assbot: WARNING: The Bitcoin Journal is a fraud : Bitcoin
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla always spots the scammers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8246 @ 0.00081455 = 6.7168 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: an hour ago
kakobrekla: ba beats reddit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.03671218 = 0.5507 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: !up Menno
mircea_popescu: !up diatonic
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> Facebook ads from BTCJam << i wonder if they fiat roi, those fb ads :D
mircea_popescu: pankkake danke
mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/6c8929d97e29476c98fe514cbd1c866d/tumblr_mj7ikq5jYs1ryigg2o1_500.jpg << sarah/kate/simon/craig woods further stock footage
pankkake: you posted that one already
benkay: i've seen that like three times this week
pankkake: more dildopants please
benkay: at least different ones
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00081902 = 9.0092 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: now you get to knowwhat marriage's like.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.03412 = 0.58 BTC [-]
benkay: what, no new panties?
Mats_cd03: 10btc buttcoin
Mats_cd03: such privilege
Mats_cd03: idk many people that would say no esp if they remained anon
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.0340294 = 0.5785 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 43 @ 0.03110569 = 1.3375 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00081622 = 8.203 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.03699758 = 1.6649 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: %ob
atcbot: 45k@277 48k@275 60k@238 | 970k@199 750k@175 216k@160
BingoBoingo: %diff
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 385242.46 in 1620 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -24.69
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 308160 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 287 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 13 hours, 13 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16651563644.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.68776
thestringpuller: Sunday 5am EDT
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 585.01, Best ask: 587.44, Bid-ask spread: 2.43000, Last trade: 587.44, 24 hour volume: 6960.37322975, 24 hour low: 568.04, 24 hour high: 590.0, 24 hour vwap: 582.330245983
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market USMS auction
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitstamp. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: the code is a valid currency on your target market. Default currency is USD.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22874 @ 0.00081647 = 18.6759 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.03101 = 0.7753 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 1 minute and 35 seconds
BingoBoingo: %tslb
atcbot: 19 minutes and 26 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 61 @ 0.03002785 = 1.8317 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.02899861 = 1.1309 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12750 @ 0.00081821 = 10.4322 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 35 @ 0.02505931 = 0.8771 BTC [-] {5}
Namworld: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=668378.0
assbot: Flawed Provably Fair Systems
Namworld: And it's live.
Mats_cd03: cape cod is filled to the brim with peasants this time of year
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 49 @ 0.028 = 1.372 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: fun
nubbins`: hey, do you guys get seasonal homeless where you live?
bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves:"The weakest point of my company was management," said Mr. Karpelès, who was the sole executive of the company. << lulz!
nubbins`: :D
bitcoinpete: punkman: 120 petahashes now << and then some
nubbins`: the weakest point of our basketball team was athletic ability
bitcoinpete: ;;nethash
gribble: 1.72688358042
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.02698 = 1.349 BTC [+] {2}
Mats_cd03: seasonal homeless exist everywhere its warm during the summer
jurov: weakest point of the porn performance was the dick
jurov: nubbins`: yes i know two dudes that live whole summer in tent
bitcoinpete: wtf gribble...
jurov: heh gribble overflowed?
Mats_cd03: i wonder why that is. needs to be bigint?
kakobrekla: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 308176 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 271 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 10 hours, 13 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16703666692.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 24.07478
bitcoinpete: jurov: must be. pretty sure there more than 1.72 Ghps
jurov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=668378 namworld finally published his rant
assbot: Flawed Provably Fair Systems
kakobrekla: nethash molests the sci notation ?
bitcoinpete: closer to 121,860,978 GH/s
bitcoinpete: kakobrekla: it seemed to be working properly yesterday
bitcoinpete: now it's guessing next diff or something
fluffypony: nubbins`: apparently t-shirts arrived today
fluffypony: I asked the wife to take pics and send to me
bitcoinpete: provably fair t-shirts!
nubbins`: great! good news
kakobrekla: nanotube you might want to get that looked at.
nubbins`: check the timestamp on the postage, curious to know how long it took
fluffypony: nubbins`: will do
fluffypony: ugh, OgNasty's posts in the "Why Do You Invest?" thread make me want to smack him upside the head
fluffypony: "What if BTC drops from $560 down to $0.01 while your BTC investment doubles? Would you be happy your $560 investment is now worth $0.02, or would you be angry that you lost all the real value of your investment?"
fluffypony: I'd be fucking ecstatic if I double'd my BTC regardless of what some shitty fiat market thinks a BTC is worth in 'Murka
kakobrekla: but at 0.01$'s difficulty, he will be mining 22mio btc a day.
fluffypony: heh
fluffypony: Team Nasty Fans (or whatever they're called) would love that
kakobrekla: dun worry my comment contains at least two fails
bitcoinpete: french money sign..
fluffypony: you're just using gribble arithmetic
bitcoinpete: gribmath
fluffypony: LOL
fluffypony: phpGribMath
kakobrekla: but i think i know why nasty fans invest. so ognasty can pay rent without actually doing anything.
fluffypony: "As used by Karpeles!"
bitcoinpete: phpGribMath.random
jurov: ;;calc 1.346258011452534E10
gribble: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
fluffypony: bitcoinpete: is that function provably fair?
bitcoinpete: as used by brainwallet.org
jurov: ;;calc 1.346258011452534E10*1.0
gribble: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
jurov: well..
kakobrekla: ;;rand
gribble: Error: "rand" is not a valid command.
kakobrekla: ;;calc rand
gribble: Error: 'rand' is not a defined function.
bitcoinpete: ;;calc 1.346258011452534**10
gribble: 19.5561341426
kakobrekla: meh , ill seed the wallet with that anyway.
bitcoinpete: dat entropy
bitcoinpete: we should do a brainwallet hacktest of "rand"
bitcoinpete: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/introducing-ltbcoin-our-new-crypto-rewards-program-for-ltb-creators-and-community
assbot: Introducing LTBCOIN, our new crypto-rewards program for LTB Creators and Community | Lets Talk Bitcoin
bitcoinpete: "Why is LTBCOIN Valuable? Effective July 1st, 2014 LetsTalkBitcoin.com, the Let’s Talk Bitcoin! show, and the LTB network will only sell sponsorship space (on the web properties) or airtime (on the show) for LTBCOIN, to the highest bidder, in LTBCOIN, at our regular auction events."
fluffypony: wait what
fluffypony: they're issuing an altcoin?
jurov: Crypto.SHA256(window.screen.height, window.screen.width, window.screen.colorDepth, window.screen.availHeight, window.screen.availWidth, window.screen.pixelDepth, date, timeZoneOffset, navigator.userAgent, all browser plugins, all mime types of the browser, cookies, language, browser history, browser url) to xor that in to the random bytes.
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: on counterwallet or w/e
jurov: ^ use this. totally sikrit
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/EIAgov/status/482590503511130112
assbot: US crude /hashtag/oil?src=hash production in April 2014= 8.38 MMbbl/d; most since Nov 1987 http://t.co/ne91CvzzQu /hashtag/tightoil?src=hash /hashtag/energy?src=hash http://t.co/zkc4O82Cu0
bitcoinpete: pumping black gold, hoarding germany gold gold...
bitcoinpete: good times in the gasenwagen!
bitcoinpete: penguirker: New blog post: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/27/fullnode-co-is-a-scam/ << pankkake, i like ☟︎
assbot: Fullnode.co is a scam | pankkake
bitcoinpete: good to see you blogging more
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.02794968 = 0.8105 BTC [-] {2}
bitcoinpete: nubbins`: USMS should liveblog the auction << yes! wonder what's going on there atm..
mike_c: nuttin, auction's over.
fluffypony: just about to close isn't it?
fluffypony: there you go
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market USMS
gribble: Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'bitmynt', 'btsp', 'btcavg', 'krk', 'btcde', 'btce', 'bfx'] or 'all'
bitstein: You know, it would be a lot easier if we just listed what Bitcoin businesses _aren't_ scams.
fluffypony: bitstein: would be a very short list
jurov: ;;ticker --market noscam
gribble: Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'bitmynt', 'btsp', 'btcavg', 'krk', 'btcde', 'btce', 'bfx'] or 'all'
bitcoinpete: bitstein: … we do
bitcoinpete: those in the wot are not scams
jurov: you see... gribble does nto support such markets
bitcoinpete: until proven otherwise
bitcoinpete: those outside the wot are scams… until proven otherwise
bitstein: Yes, that's a good way to filter through.
bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: rape me << reminds me of maebe bluth's "marry me"
jurov: the only non-scam is death
BingoBoingo: Death is a scam.
jurov: lol howso?
bitcoinpete: afterlives, souls, etc ?
bitcoinpete: "we are all but energy that can neither be created nor destroyed" ?
jurov: afterlives concern only scammers who sell death derivatives
bitcoinpete: like churches
bitcoinpete: please to tithe
jurov: no one ever came after the death like "yeah i did this good investment while i lived"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58200 @ 0.00081913 = 47.6734 BTC [+] {3}
bitcoinpete: ;;rate jurov 2 coinbr
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user jurov has changed from 1 to 2.
jurov: ;;rated bitcoinpete
gribble: You have not yet rated user bitcoinpete
jurov: ;;rate bitcoinpete 1 spiffy blog. coinbr trader.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user bitcoinpete has been recorded.
bitcoinpete: a ty
bitcoinpete: ;;rated kakobrekla
gribble: You rated user kakobrekla on Wed Apr 16 20:43:33 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: greaser of #bitcoin-assets wheels.
bitcoinpete: hm needs more
jurov: lol do you know what's meant by "greasing the wheels" around here?
jurov: a nice little bribe
bitcoinpete: jurov: lol i could almost guess but what is it actually?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69100 @ 0.00082063 = 56.7055 BTC [+] {5}
bitcoinpete: o ha
bitcoinpete: ya means the same here too
bitcoinpete: sorta the joke ;)
bitcoinpete: ;;rate kakobrekla 2 greaser of #bitcoin-assets wheels. hasn't run off with bitbets
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from 1 to 2.
bitcoinpete: ;;rate 1 bitstein bright kid. runs nakamoto institute.
gribble: Error: 'bitstein' is not a valid integer.
kakobrekla: imma need to order http://www.amazon.com/Passion-Natural-Water-Based-Lubricant-Gallon/dp/B005MR3IVO nao
assbot: Amazon.com: Passion Natural Water-Based Lubricant - 55 Gallon: Health & Personal Care
jurov: shoulda also rate lampelina as subgreaser, no?
bitcoinpete: ;;rate bitstein 1 bright kid. runs nakamoto institute.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user bitstein has changed from 1 to 1.
bitcoinpete: o i c
bitstein: "Error: 'bitstein' is not a valid integer." Good to know I'm not just a number.
benkay: https://twitter.com/garybernhardt/status/482295995380690944 // oop is seductively rational, only disclosing its insanities after much research by way smart people
assbot: I feel like I wasted much of the last decade by trying to make sense of programming fashion (mostly OO) rather than trusting my instincts.
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: there's nothing natural about unnatural lube
bitcoinpete: o hey benkay !
benkay: hey bitcoinpete
benkay: how are you today?
bitcoinpete: quite well, i'd say
bitcoinpete: and yourself?
bitcoinpete: bitstein: and don't let them turn you in to one either ;)
bitcoinpete: ;;rate mthreat 1 maker of supremely useful #bitcoin-assets search
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mthreat has been recorded.
bitstein: It'd be like in Anthem. We would be called Equality 7-2521.
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: cazalla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/298dkp/mircea_popescu_promoting_rape_what_an_excellent/ << wait im in the "community" nao ? << you're also "an excellent PR" !
assbot: Mircea Popescu, promoting rape. What an excellent PR for the community. : Bitcoin
benkay: bitcoinpete: slaying aws clusters allllll dayyyyyy and taking a contractor out for dinner after
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: that's the fucking problem at the bottom of it : a class of people that have been trained to equate power with badness and powerlessness with goodness. << this, for 150 years. what nietzsche was on about with master-slave morality.
bitcoinpete: benkay: the high life!
benkay: and writing documentation.
bitcoinpete: are you boys finding a nice rooftop patio somewheres downtown?
benkay: always with the documentation.
benkay: that'd be nice, but we're keeping overhead to negligible levels for the immediate future.
benkay: instead of renting an office, we have a running tab with a rather nice local cafe
benkay: my partner does have a large porch upon which we work when the weather's nice
bitcoinpete: fuckin heysteve stole my shit… or I, his
bitcoinpete: fuckin logs
bitcoinpete: benkay: and for apres diner drinks?
bitcoinpete: and wd keeping costs down. fuck rent
BingoBoingo: Death is a scam, because it Gox's your wallet
benkay: bitcoinpete: apres dinner malarkey of all sorts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0299995 = 0.6 BTC [+] {2}
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: not exactly. more like you aspire to be godlike on the theory that the world's a sausage press. << lulz! dat analogy.
bitcoinpete: alright beer time..
kakobrekla: benkay here is your answer : https://github.com/WordPress/WordPress/blob/fd838ccb2b1d37bda02eecdf09c324863f050812/wp-admin/setup-config.php#L211
assbot: WordPress/wp-admin/setup-config.php at fd838ccb2b1d37bda02eecdf09c324863f050812 WordPress/WordPress GitHub
benkay: http://www.lustocracy.com/
assbot: Lustocracy | Error!
benkay: well that's downright inspirational, kakobrekla
benkay: http://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/wp_remote_get
assbot: Function Reference/wp remote get « WordPress Codex
benkay: not even https?
Mats_cd03: its brilliant in its simplicity
benkay: i guess ssl_verify might help...
benkay: sslverify i mean
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00081901 = 11.3023 BTC [-] {2}
Mats_cd03: hue.
benkay: but how do you force wp_remote_get to use https?
kakobrekla: i see https in the sauce
kakobrekla: but regardless.
benkay: kinda bunk.
kakobrekla: someone failed at the auction - now buying buttstamp coins
benkay: so...what is that used for internally to wordpress?
benkay: ;;ticker --market bitstamp
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 595.99, Best ask: 598.02, Bid-ask spread: 2.03000, Last trade: 598.0, 24 hour volume: 9246.56975719, 24 hour low: 573.52, 24 hour high: 598.02, 24 hour vwap: 583.841306381
kakobrekla: hey its from your guy (i think) https://twitter.com/garybernhardt/status/480105287689314305
assbot: TIL: Good random number generation is hard in PHP, so Wordpress HTTP GETs random salt from http://t.co/LFH4pAKh5U. https://t.co/57TTgbCEKj
benkay: yup
benkay: lol "SecureRandom is so slow!"
benkay: berhardt's pretty great, kakobrekla.
kakobrekla: not bad ye
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00082117 = 17.0803 BTC [+] {3}
mike_c: maybe the auction bids leaked. anyone check USMS twitter feed?
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market USMS
gribble: Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'bitmynt', 'btsp', 'btcavg', 'krk', 'btcde', 'btce', 'bfx'] or 'all'
BingoBoingo: Still not sync'd with gribble...
mircea_popescu: o hai
mircea_popescu: !up Pilate
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 89 @ 0.033 = 2.937 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15799 @ 0.00081753 = 12.9162 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00082064 = 15.2639 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03: seasonal homeless exist everywhere its warm during the summer << i just walked by a guy who was sleeping on the sidewalk.
mircea_popescu: he had a matress, and a cover, and a nice sleeping HAT
mircea_popescu: by no means a rare sight.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: I'd be fucking ecstatic if I double'd my BTC regardless of what some shitty fiat market thinks a BTC is worth in 'Murka << duh.
mircea_popescu: i so very much cared when my btc holdings "collapsed" from 15 per btc to 2 per btc.
mircea_popescu: there's prolly still logs of me crying all over it back in 2012.
BingoBoingo: http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2997fe/this_phenomenon_where_in_alternatives_to_bitcoin/ciiwn85
assbot: This phenomenon where in alternatives to Bitcoin attract increasingly homogenous groups is perhaps most evident in Dogecoiners who seemingly want to make the Dystopia depicted below to become a reality : dogecoin
BingoBoingo: ^ pankkake
mircea_popescu: the notion that cheap highway whores or mcdonalds "attract" anyone is kinda lulzy.
mircea_popescu: they're not attracted, they just don't got money to go anywhere better.
mircea_popescu: "homelessness attracts an increasingly homogenuous population of social studies postdocs that simply couldn't afford a home"
pankkake: BingoBoingo: the comment linked appears to be deleted
pankkake: if it's yours, it might be the stealth deletion feature and you still see it
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Already?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 126 @ 0.03002462 = 3.7831 BTC [+] {5}
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure, but this is the internet so the poor can hitch their nothing to Dogecoin, Darkcoin, or whatever reflects their particular type of poor as they imagine it best
mircea_popescu: dogecoin is like libertard, darkcoin like republican ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: imma need to order http://www.amazon.com/Passion-Natural-Water-Based-Lubricant-Gallon/dp/B005MR3IVO nao << i go to local 7/11. buncha teenage chicks bothering the clerk with their inane teenage bs.
assbot: Amazon.com: Passion Natural Water-Based Lubricant - 55 Gallon: Health & Personal Care
BingoBoingo: darkcoin's prolly more like green party
mircea_popescu: i order 12 packs of condoms. he's all flustered. says he doesn't have em.
mircea_popescu: i point.
mircea_popescu: he gets even more flustered. "how many ?" "doce."
mircea_popescu: he picks two packs. "dos ? o doce ?" "doce."
mircea_popescu: he's ready to call the cops because this should not be fucking allowed.
mircea_popescu: i regret it didn't occur to me to ask for passion natural water lubricant too
mircea_popescu: half galon.
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: ;;rate mthreat 1 maker of supremely useful #bitcoin-assets search << btw mthreat how many searches does it serve a day ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21677 @ 0.00081794 = 17.7305 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: well
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Apparently reddit butchers GPG signatures too
kakobrekla: !s !s
assbot: 4021 results for '!s' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%21s
kakobrekla: !s "!s"
assbot: 4021 results for '"!s"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22%21s%22
kakobrekla: meh
kakobrekla: i would guess between 2 and 7
mircea_popescu: im curious if 100s or 1000s
kakobrekla: imo way way less. doesnt mean its any less awesome
mircea_popescu: yes it does! like before taking 100+ cox kim kadashian was kinda not so awesome. but then she took 1000+ cox and was almost as awesome as that other chick
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.02701825 = 1.1077 BTC [-] {5}
mthreat: mircea_popescu: it's 100s or less
mircea_popescu: well there goes tjhat theory.
mthreat: 1719 hits since june 20 9pm
mthreat: including some bots
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1719 / 7
gribble: 245.571428571
mircea_popescu: it would seem to me your math is teh suk
mthreat: 245 is hundreds, eh? or did you mean total, not per day
mircea_popescu: ah you meant 100s or less inclusive
mircea_popescu: i see now
mthreat: O(100)
mthreat: in any case, not enough traffic for an IPO
chetty: http://news.yahoo.com/blackout-hits-venezuela-interrupts-presidential-broadcast-204030360.html
assbot: Venezuela blackout leaves commuters scrambling, silences president - Yahoo News
mircea_popescu: lol
ThickAsThieves: he drank too much!
kakobrekla: 250 hits a day?
kakobrekla: but how many searches?
mircea_popescu: does the new venezuela guy drinkj ?
mthreat: kakobrekla: looks like 864, filtering out .css hits
mthreat: ;;calc 864 / 8
gribble: 108
mthreat: I was close1
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 53 @ 0.025 = 1.325 BTC [-] {4}
kakobrekla: unberivabru
BingoBoingo: Is Venezuala like Argentina lacking a liquor to call its own?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.20109999 = 0.6033 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo actually that's bs. just found the local cognac
mircea_popescu: "reserva san jose". pretty decent
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 750 @ 0.00234684 = 1.7601 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: Cool
mircea_popescu: the problem with this country is that people believe it's okay to say no.
BingoBoingo: Last time you mentioned the subject, the conversation was troubling
mircea_popescu: like, if they don't understand what you're saying, or iuf they deem it too much effort, they figure thery may just pretend it doesn't exist.
mircea_popescu: so a lot of tourists form wrong ideas about what exists and is available.
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 334 @ 0.00234581 = 0.7835 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: you gotta ask properly. don't go "do you have..." like a fucking retard. go "either you bring me x or i'll beat you to death."
mircea_popescu: that, they get.
ThickAsThieves: This Coindesk high of the day might get written in the last minute
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market USMS
gribble: Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'bitmynt', 'btsp', 'btcavg', 'krk', 'btcde', 'btce', 'bfx'] or 'all'
BingoBoingo: ^nanotube why isn't gribble tied into the auction?
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
ThickAsThieves: because he's outta string
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 598.17, vol: 9033.26041319 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 595.0, vol: 5896.42504 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 601.0, vol: 7073.33692063 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 604.9, vol: 44.27179999 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 608.304792, vol: 4766.72410000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 597.69266, vol: 21.76241551 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 574.5808, vol: 113.26259978 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 599.923361702
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2014/06/wmd-4th-gen-quest.pdf << for fissionless nuke fans
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2014/06/gao-14-496.pdf << us dhs derp on btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00081583 = 17.7443 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up chax
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.026 = 0.546 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00081849 = 9.6582 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up Cosmos
BingoBoingo: !up ninjashogun
BingoBoingo: !jd mpif
assbot: Bad JD response.
BingoBoingo: !jd
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 19098 BTC profit, 0.0k BTC invested, 1269.21 mio bets, 5.32 mio BTC wagered
nanotube: <kakobrekla> nanotube you might want to get that looked at. <- what am i looking at?
kakobrekla: ;;nethash
gribble: 1.72688358042
kakobrekla: should be at least 2.
nanotube: hm also i guess the data source changed from ghps to phps ...
kakobrekla: oh noes not the PHPs
nanotube: lol