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peterl: Is it just my kid's school, or do all teachers use comic sans for communication with parents?
JuliaTourianski_: +ben_vulpes> ty darling
JuliaTourianski_: +ben_vulpes ty darling* my hand hurt, can't type
BingoBoingo: peterl: They do that to grab your attention
BingoBoingo: Because if you stare at their dispatch in disgust you might accidentally read it.
peterl: lol
bounce: that postulate fails hanlon's razor
BingoBoingo: bounce: There's too many razors to keep them all straight
ben_vulpes: incompetence, malice, who can ever tell.
ben_vulpes: one man's incompetence another's malice.
ben_vulpes: one man's greed another man's short against the shartup market.
ben_vulpes: etc etc etc etc
mod6: %p
atcbot: >> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 95.29 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.77 TH/s
mod6: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 296415.54 in 888 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -84.22
mod6: %v
atcbot: [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 198 Ask: 266 Last Price: 266 30d-Vol: 166k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 170 30d-VWAP: 189
BingoBoingo: mod6: What does it take to add a pool to the bot?
mod6: BingoBoingo: not too much. you got one to add?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1566 @ 0.00074975 = 1.1741 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: mod6: is the one chalbersma made
assbot: P2Pool
BingoBoingo: It prolly needs a name though
RagnarDanneskjol: he's going to publish the source for it shortly
BingoBoingo: so call it whatever humors you
RagnarDanneskjol: I can give it anyname you want
mod6: heh
mod6: ok
BingoBoingo: Ah
RagnarDanneskjol: mod6 - you don't need anything besides the IP addr, correct?
mod6: well... testing now. lemme see.
mod6: hrm. well it didn't pick anything up
mod6: < BitOTTer460> >> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 142.94 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.26 TH/s [p2p Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s
RagnarDanneskjol: i thought it might be a bit different config for p2pool
RagnarDanneskjol: I know someone who did it before - will ask
mod6: so, this interface looks just like CoinMiner.net, and I recall, before they had a JSON feed to parse, I had a lot of trouble scraping the HTML because the pool hashrate is buried in a span
RagnarDanneskjol: right
mod6: so, if they ever get a JSON feed, let me know, will add right away.
RagnarDanneskjol: i will ask chris to set it up
mod6: cool. ok, let me know :]
RagnarDanneskjol: its on my server - I would give it a shit but will prolly fuk it up
RagnarDanneskjol: a shot*
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: strap finder came for you again!
asciilifeform: lol.
asciilifeform: (stirrup finder ?)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah I saw one of their joins and upped the strapon finder
BingoBoingo: unsolicited, like their PM's
asciilifeform: ahahah.
kakobrekla: strup finder?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: aka ninjaspammer
kakobrekla: ;;translate slovenian english strup
gribble: Error: Google says: Response Status 403: Please use Translate v2. See http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html.
kakobrekla: meh
kakobrekla: nanotube any chance to get that fixed
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: forget english. струп ~= scab.
kakobrekla: :)
BingoBoingo: You know I have no idea why the spicy food fanatics stayed confined to capcaisin when Urushiol containing plants tend to offer a different yet interesting punch.
JuliaTourianski_: anyone know Toni Lane Casserly?
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: Not personally
BingoBoingo: Is that the 90's band TLC?
BingoBoingo is curious if anyone here casts iron themselves, may be interested in a two hundred thousand quart pot.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: two hundred thousand quart pot << try #cannibalism ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not for biodiesel, for flipping upside down and using as a residence. The hexayurt thing is making me imagine.
BingoBoingo: I already have an adequate tent, but... what would be the nice opposite of that.
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: Do you know TLC?
JuliaTourianski_: no, who/what is tlc?
asciilifeform: thin-layer chromatography ?
asciilifeform doesn't know of any other tlc
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: No, that person you asked us about
nanotube: kakobrekla: google translate is now a pay-api... so gotta move to another api provider. and well... it just doesn't seem too urgent :)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That is a favorite tlc, I use it to tell when my car interior need cleaning.
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo no never met her
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo just heard about her today
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: Ah, wondering why you were asking. I'm trying to navigate her site nao.
BingoBoingo: Well, also as I research backyard furnace designs
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjCWdsrVcBM << herr wolfram renamed his best-selling gizmo for some reason.
assbot: "Inside the Wolfram Language" by Stephen Wolfram - YouTube
asciilifeform: good demo.
asciilifeform: (obligatory wolfram: https://web.archive.org/web/20100322205031/http://www.cscs.umich.edu/~crshalizi/reviews/wolfram )
assbot: Stephen Wolfram, A New Kind of Science
asciilifeform: (me & mathematica - a few years of fun. described here: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-2746 )
assbot: Loper OS » Thumbs Down for Clojure
BingoBoingo: Probably because Julia is the new trendy science language or something
asciilifeform: (comment thread)
asciilifeform: herr wolfram's megalomania did not happen in empty space. he has a total, watertight monopoly on something - just as steve jobs did.
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo she was mentioned to me, im always curious about new girls in btc
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo because im sexist
asciilifeform: nobody seems to ask 'who're the new girls in high-temperature metallurgy'
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: I'm interested in everyone.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> nobody seems to ask 'who're the new girls in high-temperature metallurgy' << Already filed under things I look for in a potential wife.
asciilifeform: or 'new girlz in deep sea oil & gas exploration'
asciilifeform: NGIDSOGE.
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo i did admit i was sexist
asciilifeform: 'new gurlz in electron beam lithography'
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: The trick is being sexist for the right queries.
asciilifeform invites others to nominate additional fields we need 'new girls in...'
JuliaTourianski_: +asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GC4q5N0W4o
assbot: Carolyn Porco's Life At Saturn - YouTube
BingoBoingo: If you want to investigate who might be representing themselves as Bitcoin to SIliconvalley tards of course be sexist and focus on the girls.
asciilifeform: ^ not new girl
JuliaTourianski_: +asciilifeform I hate that word...need. liberal bullshit no?
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo oh are we having a serious convo?
JuliaTourianski_: +asciilifeform i know, but a cool one
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: Of course, this is mega professional chan. You took danielpbarron's trollbait and made an earnest effort.
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo hehe
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo to be fair, very young cute girls are more rarely seen in btc than dudes. so it naturally peaks my curiosity
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: danielpbarron is a rare bird here in that he is an orthodoxy attracted thinker that can stick around.
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: Of course. It is a practical reason to have focus.
JuliaTourianski_: +BingoBoingo focus is going too far
BingoBoingo: I'm just amazed that TLC's writing sections... has images of fountain pens.
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: Nah, focus happens in degrees, otherwise eyes wouldn't be tenable
BingoBoingo: You'd have to choose between the coarse mechanism that produces melanin in skin and a scanning tunneling microscope otherwise
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7497 @ 0.00075088 = 5.6293 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I do appreciate your endorsement earlier for the museum approach to IT
punkman: BingoBoingo: I already have an adequate tent, but... what would be the nice opposite of that. << http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb1pdvvoVoQ
assbot: I Didn't Know That - Concrete Tent - YouTube
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i practice it.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I know. Shame you HP RISC stuff wasn't more useful
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: bulky.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, turning into a concern at the moment
BingoBoingo: Even fucking 68k macs are starting to seem bulky as I plan for contingencies.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: unlike pa-risc, you can get 68k portables.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure, but considering two legs of contingency trip involve feet instead of tires...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have a 'powerbook duo' somewhere.
BingoBoingo: I might settle for atom netbook of particular vintage as a candidate for burining.
BingoBoingo: Makes centuries ROM disk seem like a trivial task by comparison though.
BingoBoingo: On a related note, wasn't the Palm V a nifty piece of harware?
asciilifeform: was, yes.
BingoBoingo: Shame about being the harbringer of iPod solder you own batteries
asciilifeform: said who? there was a plug inside.
asciilifeform: (even in apple's machines, afaik)
BingoBoingo: Well... people who bought a bunch for $7
BingoBoingo: Sure, replacement of batteries is possible without soldering and heating batteries, but... I worry about the social engineering threat where nifty microcomputer gets defamed as a bomb by homo retardus
BingoBoingo: !up nezZario
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://www.newertech.com/imgs/products/batteries/ipod/ipod_5g_battery_main.png << plug.
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski: So in what context did you learn of this new girl? I'm a trained libraian
asciilifeform: plenty of damning things can be said about apple products that are... actually true.
asciilifeform: 'soldered batteries' isn't one.
decimation: I use asus atom netbok for portability; cheap & reliable
decimation: asciilifeform: apparently 'soldered batteries' were a favorite of HP to force you to send back your expensive test gear for service.
BingoBoingo: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPod+Touch+3rd+Generation+Battery+Replacement/3306
assbot: iPod Touch 3rd Generation Battery Replacement - iFixit
TheNewDeal: what os you rocking decimation?
decimation: arch linux
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It wasn't consistently one
asciilifeform: aha there it is!
asciilifeform: soldered battery.
TheNewDeal: does that feature a dependency hell?
decimation: I would consider migrating to openbsd, but I'm not sure it would have a friendly user interface
asciilifeform: well, not really soldered battery though.
asciilifeform: just cable.
asciilifeform: as pictured, even a kid can safely swap this one.
decimation: they have a variant of 'ports', they seem to actively manage dependencies pretty well
decimation: I would recommend arch linux for learning more about linux
TheNewDeal: oooh
decimation: although they jumped on the systemd bandwagon
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well in those scenarios my favored fix is scotch tape+conductor.
JuliaTourianski: +BingoBoingo hhaha just someone said to me she's "penetrating the btc scene" so I figured I should probably know of her if that's the case
TheNewDeal: is that at all similar to android init.d?
decimation: heh. it's a replacement actually, and not everyone is a fan
BingoBoingo: decimation> I would consider migrating to openbsd, but I'm not sure it would have a friendly user interface << Can be done, just worry about drivers first.
decimation: replacing init scripts that have been inherited from the early unix days with aimless binaries
TheNewDeal: my knowledge of daemons stops as Warcraft 1
asciilifeform: jumped on the systemd bandwagon << and you're using this on your own free will ?
decimation: the most annoying part to me is getting rid of a text syslog
BingoBoingo: <decimation> although they jumped on the systemd bandwagon << Alpine Linux still defaults to clean
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah too lazy to switch off
decimation: asciilifeform: did you see this site: http://boycottsystemd.org/
assbot: boycott systemd
asciilifeform: sure.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Solution might be to be lazier to avoid the systemd update???
asciilifeform: coming next: boycottshitpizza.org
asciilifeform: don't eat at coprophagic restaurants!
decimation: hehe yeah. when the update mechanism begs you to upgrade, the seduction is hard to avoid
asciilifeform: presence of such a mechanism is a very loud bell that you were gravely mistaken to go there at all.
decimation: "Contribute to and use distros like Slackware, CRUX, Funtoo, and Gentoo that follow traditional Unix paradigms."
asciilifeform: be glad for the bell.
asciilifeform: it tells you to: run.
BingoBoingo: decimation: What happens when you are stuck at OS 7.5.1
decimation: yeah, for instance apparently freenode was hacked
BingoBoingo: What happens when Chicago becomes Charcoal in OS 8?
decimation: the fact that our identification mechanism depends very little on freenode security shows a strong point
decimation: that's a bell too
decimation: BingoBoingo: people who upgrade macs are already very familiar with this hell
decimation: apple is famous for deprecating any feature that an advanced user would find useful
BingoBoingo: decimation: True Macs have only 1 upgrade, OS??? to A/UX
BingoBoingo: Because real macs don't run OS 8 or have PPC
decimation: actually I was sad when apple capitulated to wintel
BingoBoingo: A True Mac is just a Giant TI-89
BingoBoingo: decimation: True story Bought my first cumputer around 2000
decimation: my objection to macos 9 and earlier wasn't that it was a terrible user experience, it was mainly its inability to gracefully handle errors
BingoBoingo: was roughly $10
decimation: more often then not it would just lock & reboot randomly
BingoBoingo: OS 7 handles errors liek an angel
BingoBoingo: The surviving Mac Classic still boots.
decimation: perhaps the macs I had in high school were shit
decimation: I would agree that mac classic i suprisingly usable
BingoBoingo: On its original 40 MB hard drive
BingoBoingo: Only problem with the classic is the SE/30 already existed
decimation: In retrospect, apple should have gotten on the bsd/nextstep bandwagon around '90 or so
BingoBoingo: And kill BSD as it was about to be Free?
asciilifeform: decimation: apple as traditionally understood - does not exist now.
BingoBoingo: History's accidents are where it gets beautiful.
asciilifeform: decimation: 'next' burned it, salted the earth where it stood, and renamed self 'apple'.
decimation: yeah that's a good point, I guess the bsd lawsuit didn't end until '94
BingoBoingo: Yeah
decimation: asciilifeform: next stuff was actually pretty neat
BingoBoingo: There's a Theo interview with a lot of that history
asciilifeform: decimation: apple was also, occasionally, pretty neat.
BingoBoingo: Sun was neat too, if only they had kneepads and made a consumer machine
decimation: my perception is that sun died when 'wintel' was adopted by the baby boomers
decimation: some time in the late 90's even management started using windows
decimation: that, and the cpu vendors used by sun just didn't keep up with intel performance
BingoBoingo: Well Sun probably died when the started handing out Solaris install media to fuckers like me who bought their stock at $3.60
BingoBoingo: And the T-SHirts...
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski: Have you seen this girl's twitter? https://twitter.com/tonilanec
assbot: Toni Lane Casserly (tonilanec) | Twitter
decimation: my understanding is that sun never made much money on the os
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00074972 = 14.2447 BTC [-]
decimation: 'advisor of crypto companies'?
BingoBoingo: decimation: And yet they could have
BingoBoingo: decimation: Sure, like animals in crypto zoos
Dimsler: lol
hanbot: <thestringpuller> I want to see the look on bfl_josh's face. << ever see a face buried in sand?
Dimsler: JuliaTourianski is still around?
JuliaTourianski: +Dimsler yes sir
JuliaTourianski: +BingoBoingo ye..lol i have
BingoBoingo: <hanbot> <thestringpuller> I want to see the look on bfl_josh's face. << ever see a face buried in sand? << In Josh's case that has to be glass by now
JuliaTourianski: +BingoBoingo like i said, very young :)
Dimsler: JuliaTourianski, you get my pm?
hanbot: BingoBoingo make a decent paperweight.
JuliaTourianski: +Dimsler no
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Shame he's on the wrong side of Missouri to do some decent leaded crystal. Where is fucking Quantrill to burn Kansas* when you need him
hanbot: well, in a different kind of dirt
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski> +BingoBoingo like i said, very young :) << Well you can ascribe judgements and direct people to more interesting aspects of things. Pad uncertain declatory claims appropriately and gnerally work on mastering the sort of IRC ettiquette where you can have 25 conversations at the same time./
BingoBoingo: hanbot: And this is what makes the Middle west Truly Amazing. In Missouri you get lead, Illinois sulfur with the occasional bit of coal, In Iowa you get all the Uranium
BingoBoingo: The part where in Iowa it takes something other than a study of the water table to determine if a basement is safe... Fuck we are so deep into the future.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 434.71, Best ask: 435.92, Bid-ask spread: 1.21000, Last trade: 435.88, 24 hour volume: 27550.96246059, 24 hour low: 393.6, 24 hour high: 452.67, 24 hour vwap: 428.030196886
BingoBoingo: Oh, where's the limited rally nao???
decimation: BingoBoingo: it's possible a little bit of radiation is good for you, depending on who you ask
BingoBoingo: decimation: Sure, but suffocation on heavy ass radon is good for noone
decimation: yeah probably not
BingoBoingo: A lot of limitations on people in urnanium mining are not radiation concerns alone, but also suffocation concerns.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4087 @ 0.00074972 = 3.0641 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Fuck Chiraq
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/#
assbot: Willkommen bei Twitter - Anmelden oder Registrieren
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/Cardinals/status/514614401803235328
assbot: Cubs win 4-3 on Castillo walk-off single in the 10th. Magic Number stays at 4
BingoBoingo: !up mp_colonist
mp_colonist: :p
BingoBoingo: How does it feel to land?
decimation: lol from ascii's blog : https://web.archive.org/web/20091005062446/http://danweinreb.org/blog/rebuttal-to-stallmans-story-about-the-formation-of-symbolics-and-lmi
assbot: Dan Weinreb’s blog » Blog Archive » Rebuttal to Stallman’s Story About The Formation of Symbolics and LMI
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00074972 = 18.743 BTC [-]
decimation: it's pretty clear that stallman was a beta whiner 30 years ago too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00075135 = 3.8319 BTC [+]
mp_colonist: not all that different BingoBoingo. choppy sea, then choppy land!
BingoBoingo: Well if he wasn't he's be in the MLK Jr situation of having 30 heirs.
mp_colonist: decimation, ya know i think we lolled about this one maybe a year or so ago
BingoBoingo: mp_colonist: I've heard passenger travel on cargo ships might be a thing. Know any decent internet write ups?
mp_colonist: no. most cargo ships have a few passenger spots if you can eat crew grub
mp_colonist: course the cheapest way is to just sign up as crew for a voyage.
mp_colonist: that way you actually get paid to travel
decimation: my understanding is that many cargo ships have excellent grub
decimation: because it's the only upside of your day on ship
mp_colonist: hit and miss from what i hear
BingoBoingo: It's just the darien sounds a lot like the classic design of a fish trap... And I ate the things in America Grad students can afford to eat.
hanbot: just don't end up in chittagong
mp_colonist: what's in chickatadong ?
hanbot: dead cargo ships
BingoBoingo: Fuck
decimation: lol http://www.officercadet.com/showthread.php/7373-Why-is-food-onboard-cargo-ships-generally-poor
assbot: Why is food onboard cargo ships generally poor?
decimation: "On one of the ships I was on (I won't mention nationality but they're rather fond of beetroot) we didn't have any fruit or vegetables at all, and I ended up requiring surgery abroad due to lack of fibre in my diet. There was hardly any meat either, so not enough protein or fats in the diet either. Unsurprisingly there wasn't a lack of vodka that came with the stores so it wasn't about a low budget. "
mp_colonist: hey what was that film with the zoo keeper that travels on a cargo ship with family ?
hanbot: life of pi?
mp_colonist: mebbe
mp_colonist: decimation, sounds like ship ho trying to pass broken butt on diet.
BingoBoingo: <decimation> "On one of the ships I was on (I won't mention nationality but they're rather fond of beetroot) we didn't have any fruit or vegetables at all, and I ended up requiring surgery abroad due to lack of fibre in my diet. There was hardly any meat either, so not enough protein or fats in the diet either. Unsurprisingly there wasn't a lack of vodka that came with the stores so it wasn't about a low budget. " << Virtue of Alc
BingoBoingo: oholism, the unrecycleale bile will keep your turds moving.
decimation: yeah, plus probably ate no beets
decimation: I imagine the food quality depends on the faceless cheapness of the corp. who owns the ship
mp_colonist: decimation, improbable, coinsidering what the crew costs
mp_colonist: i imagine mostly depends on the cook
decimation: heh yeah that's probably true, he probably selects the food
BingoBoingo also considering apartment sized boats
mp_colonist: ben_vulpes well nothing's hard once you've put the time into it.
mp_colonist: kakobrekla: alibaba is supposedly worth as much as all the properties in slovenia. << 1. list slovenia on alibaba for price of 1 alibaba ; 2. have alibaba buy slovenia. 3. slovenia now worth two slovenias.
mp_colonist: INFINITE PROFIT
asciilifeform: arse-mouth system!
decimation: lol
asciilifeform: phree energy111!11
mp_colonist: this explains both why alibaba is worth slovenia
mp_colonist: and why slovenia is worth alibaba
decimation: plus teh chinese would sell more bitcoin to bid up slovenibaba
mp_colonist: i suppose this is a good bezzle unit. whatscrap sold for .15 alibabas
mp_colonist: decimation, iBaba!
BingoBoingo: Wow, Disposable pick up truck + fuel plus other side of the darien pick up truck looks cheaper than aeroplane
BingoBoingo: Or did the euro sink that much
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --currency eur
gribble: Bitstamp BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 337.114076, Best ask: 337.930766, Bid-ask spread: 0.81669, Last trade: 337.946322, 24 hour volume: 27696.23667592, 24 hour low: 306.14208, 24 hour high: 352.086726, 24 hour vwap: 332.954179809
mp_colonist: asciilifeform, http://i.imgur.com/TpFJRiG.gif << mouse now has a counterparty.
decimation: BingoBoingo: do you want to be kidnapped by random rebel group?
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: lol! what sort of turtle is this.
mp_colonist: an american turtle.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Does random rebel group really want to capture and keep me or capture and release...
mp_colonist: BingoBoingo, actually colombian rebels are mostly women.
decimation: depends if they think they lever some bezzlars from someone for your hide
mp_colonist: think, being taken by an armed amazon!
BingoBoingo: mp_colonist: I know. That's... why it is more their worry than mine.
mp_colonist: JuliaTourianski_:
mp_colonist: +ben_vulpes no idea how that happened. noobicle. << shit, vulpes. did you just get called by a girl ?!
mp_colonist: decimation: mp_sails: are you using imarsat? << no idea, not my boat, i just sailed there.
mats_cd03: so vupen now has an escape from host for virtualbox
mats_cd03 coughs
mp_colonist: mats_cd03, what, ANY ?
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: http://www.vupen.com/blog/20140725.Advanced_Exploitation_VirtualBox_VM_Escape.php << that one ?
assbot: VUPEN Vulnerability Research Blog - Advanced Exploitation of VirtualBox 3D Acceleration VM Escape Vulnerability / Exploit (CVE-2014-0983)
asciilifeform: incidentally, i assume everyone knows what vupen sells.
asciilifeform: so, presumably this one is past 'sell by' freshness date.
BingoBoingo hopes it surprises everyone when I travel to BA by puerto de tele
mats_cd03: i did not notice staleness
mats_cd03: slow on the up, this one.
asciilifeform: staleness in the sense that whatever profit to be made, was made.
asciilifeform: then - handed out for free to gawkers.
asciilifeform: or - no one bid (who runs virtualbox?)
decimation: yeah I suspect there are few juicy virtualbox-using targets
asciilifeform: !up mp_colonist
mp_colonist: ty
mp_colonist: http://message.snopes.com/photos/bodymods/graphics/3b.jpg << epic
asciilifeform: http://nevsepic.com.ua/uploads/posts/2012-08/1345725148-1597086-1145-1155-lentrge-de-lenfer-psautier-dhenri-de-blois-fol.-39-winchester-grande-bretagne.jpg << related...
mats_cd03: what am i looking at
BingoBoingo: Fuck it, might as well get a boat
mp_colonist: mats_cd03, recall supposed 3 boobs chick ?
mats_cd03: oh... chick is in fact man?
BingoBoingo: mats_cd03: No, chick just wants mtv show
mats_cd03: otherwise it would be one prosthesis instead of three?
decimation: I like kings wallowing in the beast's mouth
mats_cd03: hrm.
mp_colonist: chick complained someone stole her 3 boob prosthetic last year
mp_colonist: BingoBoingo: bounce: There's too many razors to keep them all straight << hidden straight razor joke ?
mats_cd03: http://nydailynews.com/life-style/florida-woman-breast-hoax-article-1.1949712 this one huh?
assbot: Three-breasted Florida woman Jasmine Tridevil insists third boob is real, but police report shows she once lost 'prosthesis' - NY Daily News
BingoBoingo: mp_colonist: Nah, they make more interesting cuts when unfurled from bent
mp_colonist: mats_cd03, and of course they cite no source rite ?
BingoBoingo: mats_cd03: She also accused a stranger of assaulting her in a bar without evidence and was forced to drop it. To terrafoam and Vitamin H with her.
mats_cd03: god shes ugly
mp_colonist: mats_cd03, she's not ugly, she's a masseuse.
mats_cd03: should've had work done on her face if she wanted to be on mtv
mats_cd03: " Well, I am crazy," she told the "The News Junkie" show. "Crazy people don't know they are crazy, so technically since I know I'm crazy I'm not crazy." saved
mp_colonist: i am not crazy because of my deep seated belief that what i say alters what is and therefore i can't be crazy rite guise ?
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/21CMagic.HTM << obligatory
assbot: 21st Century Magic
BingoBoingo: mp_colonist: I do much of the same, but parts of what I do don't influence reality.
asciilifeform not enamoured with dutch's examples specifically - but his formula is sound.
mp_colonist: asciilifeform: 'new gurlz in [electron beam] lithography'
mp_colonist: i swear i'm reading for hte pictures.
mats_cd03: asciilifeform: you have a bookmarks file with 5000 entries, or you just consult the google?
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: usually, brain and a little google.
mats_cd03: me - I'm working on the bookmarks.
asciilifeform used to have bookmarks, then the world froze and they burned in.
mp_colonist: asciilifeform, i dont get it, why wouldnt wa fix bug ?
asciilifeform: wait which ?
asciilifeform: aha that one
mp_colonist: ya
BingoBoingo: So, *crazy idea* thinking about taking volunteer or part time work with the local ,public, library.
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: perhaps out of spite. they flew sales-muppets to my lab hoping i'd buy a mega-cluster's worth of licenses. i didn;t.
mp_colonist: uh
asciilifeform: so from their point of view i was probably the same kind of ruffian as the mac demo audiences from that other link.
mp_colonist: what sort of spite is this, "i won't clean the spinach between my teeth out of spite because you didn't buy me a ring" ?
asciilifeform: that very same.
mats_cd03: BingoBoingo: what sort of work would you be doing?
mp_colonist: BingoBoingo, what is supposed to be crazy about being at a desk ?
BingoBoingo: <mp_colonist> what sort of spite is this, "i won't clean the spinach between my teeth out of spite because you didn't buy me a ring" ? << Dangerous game, folates encourage bacteria and mycellium
BingoBoingo: mp_colonist: just the part where I resign myself to positions the high school students hold, and the part where they still might favor the HS students for it.
mp_colonist: so crazy = lazy ?
decimation: BingoBoingo: why not work for the library in exchange for money?
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: i did sign off on ~7kBez worth of wolframiana. but did not expect the same level of fellatio as the folks who we paid 40k/seat. and got what expected.
mp_colonist: JuliaTourianski: +BingoBoingo hhaha just someone said to me she's "penetrating the btc scene" so I figured I should probably know of her if that's the case << so much derpage srsly. you need better friends.
asciilifeform: *from the folks who we padi
asciilifeform: *paid
BingoBoingo: mp_colonist: It could, last year. This year though... less notable retards to need to build dossiers on so practical.
mp_colonist: penetrating the scene what is this, mtv
mp_colonist: decimation, try and guess.
BingoBoingo: <decimation> BingoBoingo: why not work for the library in exchange for money? << Managing paper is a dying niche
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: i am very glad they did not fix. relying on black box turd for a critical piece of mechanics was stupid, and it was necessary to pay with suffering for it (did.)
asciilifeform: education!
mp_colonist: asciilifeform, you know, this strikes me as kinda silly. a la restaurant that will mistreat customers ordering $7 worth of coffee because they didn't buy $40 worth of pizza or w/e
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: wolfram corp. is quite unlike a restaurant
decimation: mp_colonist: this is standard behavior among us 'tech' companies
asciilifeform: in that most of their revenue comes from 'whales.'
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mp_colonist: so restaurant's revenue comes from people who eat out.
mp_colonist: most people don't.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: So Wolfram is an event caterer
decimation: right, but in a restaurant you don't have one guy who eats 80% of the food and everyone else eats peanuts
mp_colonist: kinda how it works in egypt yeah
BingoBoingo: <decimation> right, but in a restaurant you don't have one guy who eats 80% of the food and everyone else eats peanuts << Not undeard of
mp_colonist: guys inside eat the food, buncha derps outside eat peanuts
asciilifeform: i linked to the film not because anything in it is new (the maniac renamed the product after himself, for no reason, but this is uninteresting) but to demonstrate a genuine monopoly product
asciilifeform: where he could easily ask most of the hardcore users to suck his cock as a condition of license renewal - and many would.
decimation: zooming out further, probably more than 90% of the revenue for wolfram comes from usg
decimation: either directly or indirectly
mp_colonist: asciilifeform, wouldn't last long. this cock sucking thing... truth is, the penis doens't last too long even to normal copulatory friction. saliva is digestive.
asciilifeform: decimation: my operation was 100% usg.
mp_colonist: try having your pecker in a mouth four a few hours a day for a few days and see what sore truely means
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: proverbial adamantine indestructible cock.
mp_colonist: o so you can't feel anything ?
mp_colonist: have them suck your desk legs
decimation: or a statue of yourself
asciilifeform: that's more or less what he does.
asciilifeform: most of the humiliation serves no immediate purpose
BingoBoingo: mp_colonist> try having your pecker in a mouth four a few hours a day for a few days and see what sore truely means << Wasn't this limiting factor discussed this spring?
asciilifeform: beyond it being there on tap when necessary.
BingoBoingo: !s digested penis
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mp_colonist: so we're at the point in hipster evolution where cute rebel late hs chicks misrepresent themselves as associated with us for the benefit of w/e cute boy named ethan ?
JuliaTourianski: +mp_colonist ahhaah truth
mp_colonist: i feel like the bodymod people
mp_colonist: it's a sad feeling.
asciilifeform: (forget 'w. alpha', it's a clown show) mathematica - is example of a product for which not even a vaguely passable (to aficionado) alternative exists, at any price point
mp_colonist: BingoBoingo, possibly.
mp_colonist: asciilifeform, am i stupid or why i never used it ?
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: it only became interesting after ver. 6 or so.
asciilifeform: !up mp_colonist
Dimsler: lol
mp_colonist: so what am i missing out on ?
BingoBoingo: mp_colonist: Apparently there was at least a hint of the discussion http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-04-2014#618044 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-04-2014 18:39:14; mircea_popescu: my penis is half digested by all the saliva
mp_colonist: BingoBoingo, only goes to show i speak with ht eweight of experience.
asciilifeform: i was always too lazy to answer this question (and don't fancy getting folks addicted, i laboured under abject druggie hell from it) but the film exists now
asciilifeform: to answer this question, for those who really are certain they wish to know.
mp_colonist: i am certainly not watching any films
mp_colonist: even if it had tits.
asciilifeform: it's herr w. showing screen captures.
mp_colonist: i just hate the format. fucking visual thinkers psssshhh. sinners.
decimation: from my experience the other competing program is 'matlab'
asciilifeform: decimation: not even remotely the same.
mp_colonist: so then also q ?
mp_colonist: or r or s or w/e
asciilifeform: decimation: of course, users of 'matlab' will say 'sure! we're same.' -- like 'glbse' vs 'mpex'...
mats_cd03: now thats a zinger
mp_colonist: asciilifeform, can you put the difference in twelve words ?
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah you are right of course. matlab has a 'symbolic' toolbox but the actual programming language is not the same at all
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asciilifeform: graphical constructs as first-class data structures.
mp_colonist: ;;ticker
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decimation: asciilifeform: I can open a png in an emacs buffer ;)
mp_colonist: asciilifeform, oh i see. no wonder i never cared.
asciilifeform: that isn't really a complete picture.
asciilifeform: but herr w. isn't paying me to create addicts. i'm almost sorry i mentioned it...
mp_colonist: not judging it, just curious.
asciilifeform: must really be seen to be understood.
decimation: matlab is the de facto standard for dsp development
mp_colonist: exactly. not my kinda thing
asciilifeform: decimation: classic vendor lock-in. disgusting turd.
decimation: I prototype using matlab, but I find the 'index starts at 1' fortranism enraging
asciilifeform: decimation: university labs are given a 'complete package' with instrument libraries, etc.; students forced to use.
decimation: yeah that's pretty much what I encoutered
asciilifeform: ascii input & output, terrible for any real mathematical work
decimation: the only real symbolic math packing I've seen folks use is 'maple'
asciilifeform: another 'glbse'
decimation: yeah, also with ascii in & out
asciilifeform did not exhume this item to praise 'mathematica' but to bury it - it's an example of something everybody else should have copied and used as permanent baseline for anything new, like kalashnikov.
asciilifeform: but instead - monopoly.
asciilifeform: (as discussed re: apple, here http://www.loper-os.org/?p=132 )
assbot: Loper OS » Non-Apple’s Mistake
decimation: I agree from my limited experience with mathematica that its graphical 'repl' is unique
decimation: and highly pleasing for symbolic math
asciilifeform: bury the fscking turds. viagra exists, do we need penis vacuums and stinging beetles in cups ?
asciilifeform: venomous ants, to get it up ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: As survivor of the soviet system and pending survivor of the Americunt system... WHy does Velveeta come in block, shredded and sliced forms???
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ussr was innocent of velveeta.
asciilifeform has never had the pleasure of actually tasting this 'marvel.'
asciilifeform would rather boil his belt & accordion than eat it.
decimation: asciilifeform: unlike mathematica, at least 'octave' exists
decimation: there's no 'open source mimic' of mathematica, which would be the first step toward improvement I should think
asciilifeform: decimation: the question of why no 'octave'-like clone exists for mathematica, is not uninteresting
asciilifeform: and probably has bearing on the fundamental pathologies of what we call 'open source.'
mp_colonist: https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/21CMagic.HTM << this thing for the record is atrociously bad
assbot: 21st Century Magic
asciilifeform: bad but obligatory.
mp_colonist: about on par with a sex treatise by a typical 17 yo
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: dutch is the same guy who did the symmetry-groups thing. he has an astonishing spectrum of strange.
decimation: I suspect a major part of the motivation for 'matlab clone' is that young programmers have matlab stuff down their throats, as explained above
mp_colonist: "metaphisics by [dubious] scientists - we've not figured anything positive on our own so here's what we got to say about a whole subject we never formally studied"
asciilifeform: decimation: they sure do.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Was curious if SSR had same dairy afliction as SSA
decimation: then find that they can't afford the license fee when they want to buy it with their lunch money
mp_colonist: he is sorely out of his deph
mp_colonist: th.
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: write to him! dollars to doughnuts, he'll have an interesting answer.
mp_colonist: i might, but the problem is that he's attacking a high level problem and lacks the basics
decimation: whereas most users of mathematica probably go out of their way (rejecting alternatives) to buy a license (using usg's money of course)
mp_colonist: so he fights with utterly reductionist meaninglessness, to discover it's meaningless
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: the man is a geologist (as far as i can judge - a good one) and an amateur scholar of crackpottery. no pretenses at being a monumental philosopher.
mp_colonist: well the pretense is in the pudding.
mp_colonist: tell me this : how come he doesn't include an ydiscussion of the notion of number, or sphere in there ?
asciilifeform: 'picked up the piece - move.' yes.
mp_colonist: they're JUST AS "magical" as the examples he gives.
mp_colonist: why not ? why the blindspot ?
mp_colonist: ah, because you gotta know how to carpent to not end up hammering your finger "accidentally" and "because you didn't see it" ?
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: clearly 'platonist' - thinks that particular bit of magic 'works when you plug it in.'
mp_colonist: mkay.
mp_colonist: he's not a platonist inasmuch as he's not read or understood plato
mp_colonist: you can't be a mpist just because my beard gives you a hardon
asciilifeform: lower-case-p
asciilifeform dusts off 'shift' key
decimation: one hypothesis of the 'open source community' based on this evidence: far more motivated to imitate mediocrity than invent unique & interesting
mp_colonist: everyone with this pedestrian "oh magic derp". who the fuck of all these would be scientists actually understands, not in the sense of has-read-frege-and-so-on, but in the sense of has sat down an hour quietly to think on the subject - who i say understands numbers ?
asciilifeform: decimation: this might actually go straight to mp's piece about good knight/conqueror and good father being different animals
mp_colonist: "o, they're just these gas knobs, when you turn them the tea warms". tyvm, fucktard omfg bbq
mp_colonist: magoscientists complaining about how magomagicians aren't doing magoscience right.
asciilifeform: decimation: if you are inventor, gruntwork (of the kind involved in achieving almost anything substantial with existing computer systems) is a monumental torture.
mp_colonist: /endrant
decimation: asciilifeform: 'c machine kazoo'
asciilifeform: magoscientists complaining about how magomagicians aren't doing magoscience right << obligatory: 'monday begins on saturday' (strugatski brothers.) << exists in english!!
asciilifeform: about... this.
mp_colonist: right
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BingoBoingo: ;;google "the asylum" alpha house
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decimation: asciilifeform: do mix Mr Yarvin's metaphor - what would "Haakon the Fairhaired" do about computers today? would he pointlessly toil with c-machine kazoo or would he bide his time and work on something unique?
asciilifeform: decimation: easy one. he'd sail off, rape, pillage.
asciilifeform: never touch computer.
decimation: lol yeah
mp_colonist: maybe he'd troll alibaba for rape memorabilia ?
asciilifeform: at most.
mp_colonist: then not pay for it.
decimation: I suspect that it would be hard to convince mr. Haakon that money was not gold
mp_colonist: decimation, he prolly would understand current money as an extension of "honor"
mp_colonist: not as money.
asciilifeform: mp_colonist: he would also immediately grasp the present situation as 'nithlings' ('pederasts' to russian prisoner, ??? to english) took control and force people to behave as if they were people and their honour had weight
decimation: mp_colonist: that's an interesting thought, you are probably right. it also makes the actions of the west w.r.t. money obviously 'dishonorable'
mp_colonist: decimation, i think more along asciilifeform's idea. nothing but weakness.
BingoBoingo actually believes Alibaba could be that big measured in Fiats
decimation: thus, rape & pillage the dishonorable
mp_colonist: dishonor is a different category, in that it's an affliction of the strong.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Greeks in English
mp_colonist: decimation, you can't burn fuel in an atmosphere of fuel.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nope.
mp_colonist: and there's no one man raiding parties.
mp_colonist: so... prolly not.
decimation: so he would perceive these 'pederasts' as non-people, too weak to even have honor.
asciilifeform: dishonour on a nithling is like a papercut on a flayed corpse
mp_colonist: ^
asciilifeform: 'not a number'
mp_colonist: he'd prolly try and leave
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The classic Spartans behing the boarding schools, not the historical greeks
asciilifeform: !up mp_colonist
mp_colonist: actually this could be a decent counterpart to svjek story, "rothgar the barbarian in modern day malmo".
mp_colonist: sorta document his mishaps trying to gtfo.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not them, either. afaik the translation of russian prison 'pederast' to engl. is 'punk' ('nonce' in british world ?? ) ?
mp_colonist: pity there's no jerome k jerome extant to write it
mp_colonist: asciilifeform, punk works. it denotes an unintentionally submissive, younger gay man.
mp_colonist: just people tend to pretend they don't know this.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Such ananlogues exist, the Jerry sanduskies. The disconnect is in the lazy dictionaries
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there is a ritual, in a great many cultures, whereby a miscreant (not necessarily inclined to be buggered originally) is 'lowered into pederasty' - normally as a punishment
asciilifeform: but possibly as result of a 'loss of maleness' event of some category
BingoBoingo: !s salon.com prison
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asciilifeform: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7770.html << in english. concerns polish prisons.
asciilifeform: describes a watered-down version of the ritual and its sequelae.
BingoBoingo: http://www.salon.com/1999/08/23/prisons_3/
assbot: Rape as a disciplinary tactic - Salon.com
asciilifeform: (among other things)
asciilifeform: ^ 'Games Prisoners Play' (Kaminski)
asciilifeform: the menacing zek on the cover is a real riot, considering how sympathetic the creatures in this book are (compared to russian zeks described in corresponding tomes)
asciilifeform: (they're 'victorian' gentlemen by comparison)
decimation: so perhaps the analogy is something like how cortez would have perceived the aztecs, derpy pagan losers who had a 'civilization' that fell to his merry band
BingoBoingo: decimation> so perhaps the analogy is something like how cortez would have perceived the aztecs, derpy pagan losers who had a 'civilization' that fell to his merry band << Cortex succeeded in pressingneighbor against neighbor
asciilifeform: the question that almost begs to be asked is whether haakon (cortez, whoever) would immediately seize upon modern tech as being the product of long-dead wizards, as it is.
decimation: heh yeah "tech-men"
asciilifeform: if yes - modern world gets arse drilled out several sizes up.
BingoBoingo: Cortez? who knows, his first officer, probably
mp_colonist: asciilifeform, i doubt these are similar from any other pov than your own.
mp_colonist: to them themselves, you prolly look closer to the other than they
asciilifeform has no pretenses of ability to look human to cortez, haakon, -- or even a man like isambard brunel, bridge-builder.
mp_colonist: in any case this civ outlook, with phenomenology as a problem to be solved is entirely new.
mp_colonist: they had fun in different ways, and subscribed to different priors
asciilifeform: they had fun in different ways << to the naked eye - seem similar ways ?
BingoBoingo: phenomenology as its own prior seems a distinctly French/German affliction
mp_colonist: asciilifeform, if you see a woman moaning can you tell if she's having an orgasm ?
mp_colonist: fun's an interior matter.
asciilifeform: but, positing the fun (vs a taxidermic skin of fun) you can catalogue observables.
asciilifeform: e.g. she is sitting on a sharp stake. (probably was not inserted by request) - so perhaps not having fun
asciilifeform: (or, or...)
mp_colonist: nah, im cataloguing the implications of context
asciilifeform thinks
mp_colonist: "a trained whore with five years' brothel experience would never etc etc"
mp_colonist: "this 16yo mormon girl has just for the first time encountered and is trying to make sense of"
asciilifeform: with five years' brothel experience << '3 ani experienta' !
mp_colonist: take haakon and cortez. one is part of a tradition reflective of the edda.
mp_colonist: the other of doctor angelicum's stuff.
mp_colonist: obviously these will structure experience differently by indicating different bits as important or unimportant.
asciilifeform will not presume to guess whether eating steak, or rape, pillage, 'felt the same' or not given the differing structures.
mp_colonist: show you tungsten you think carbides, or lightbulbs. show it to paracelsus he thinks "lesbian silver"
mp_colonist: rape certainly doesn't feel the same.
asciilifeform: ;;google archimedes gramophone
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asciilifeform: fail.
mp_colonist: but anyway, i shall be back later for even more discussions of things and matters!
BingoBoingo: Some of my dick's beat memories involve particular lesbians.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> be glad for the bell. << amen. i recently undertook to build a piece of 'golden cage' 'software' to ship over to a client. required 'upgrading' 'xcode', which required 'upgrading' 'os x', a thing i'd been avoiding on principle as the bell shows up every time i plug the shitbox in.
BingoBoingo though now ponders the habitavility of Argentina's snake Island
ben_vulpes: forty (billed) minutes later, i have a combudder as what can make 'iOS 8' things happen to...shit i don't even know how it happens to other devices.
ben_vulpes: there are keys and certs and provisioning things and developer whatsits and i ask you - why does this thing not simply run code?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: You know how OSX gets credit from scribbing from *BSD's yes?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Whose libc does Android use though??
ben_vulpes: LS(1) BSD General Commands Manual LS(1) << BingoBoingo quite.
ben_vulpes: who knows/cares.
ben_vulpes: it's a convenient chumpatron - both my shartup short and the touchscreen phenom.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: They taken OpenBSD's libc, for what reason who cares. THey are just the queer little unix with the kernel lock that hampers IP stacks, right?
ben_vulpes: 'android'? unix?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: OSX, MacOS???
ben_vulpes: "they" ambiguous.
BingoBoingo: Until "they" corner you in gasen shower
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ben_vulpes: why do you bring up bsd in the context of macos, BingoBoingo ?
ben_vulpes: aside from pedigree.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Well, what is OSX/NExT step other than Sun OS poorly ported to PPC?
ben_vulpes: your point?
BingoBoingo: Need there be one?
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ben_vulpes: !b 2 ✂︎
ben_vulpes: not for you apparently.
ben_vulpes: ;;ident JuliaTourianski
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
ben_vulpes: ;;gpginfo JuliaTourianski
gribble: Error: "gpginfo" is not a valid command.
ben_vulpes: ;;gpg info JuliaTourianski
gribble: No such user registered.
ben_vulpes: ;;gpg info JuliaTourianski_
gribble: User 'JuliaTourianski_', with keyid 10572E349297B40F, fingerprint 5B51A3720F496281ACA2287E10572E349297B40F, and bitcoin address 1zPxLJWtrR8nhJEZWXrHWTu47r7LgJaMG, registered on Mon Sep 22 15:20:03 2014, last authed on Tue Sep 23 14:32:18 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=JuliaTourianski_ . Currently not authenticated.
BingoBoingo: Jobs turned Sun OS into OS X, Google turned OpenBSD libc on lunix to make Android. THe world turns, everydog becomes a mutt. And no one cares for generology anymoar!
ben_vulpes: genealogy?
BingoBoingo: Fucking Rasberry Pi is a thing, and consumer MIPS boards are a mirage that require bending FPGA's to shape.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> genealogy? << WIth wetware this is a deciding factor...
BingoBoingo: And Wetware still has its hints in silicon if only for another decade...
BingoBoingo: Where shit comes from matters ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: really? i was under the impression that it was just shit and to be avoided.
BingoBoingo: At one point this was a scandal >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug
assbot: Pentium FDIV bug - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ben_vulpes: reddit v. bitcointalk.org - matters?
BingoBoingo: Pedigree matters.
ben_vulpes: " On January 17, 1995, Intel announced a pre-tax charge of $475 million against earnings" << convenient
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: You dog is from a breed that requires low derp, yes?
ben_vulpes: if you're asking if the trainers have to know what they're doing and do it properly then yes.
BingoBoingo: That, and that is a luxury of handling wetware in that case.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: importance of pedigree is proportional to information poverty. ☟︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: try gedankenexperiment:
asciilifeform: 'choose from where you will eat $mysteryobject - from vegetable market, or city dump.'
ben_vulpes: <mp_colonist> +ben_vulpes no idea how that happened. noobicle. << shit, vulpes. did you just get called by a girl ?! << read it again, and that to which it's a response.
asciilifeform: (note that you could just as easily end up eating a dog turd from the market and a blade of grass from the dump)
asciilifeform: but pedigree is all you have if $mysteryobject.
ben_vulpes: i'm sadly intimately familiar with the turds in flight.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'choose from where you will eat $mysteryobject - from vegetable market, or city dump.' I may be a poor subject for this one... I sometime pick Toxicodendron radicans for personal consumption
ben_vulpes: pity the pauper.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: kBez << gold
ben_vulpes: a no scuse me 'gold'
BingoBoingo: I find Toxicodendron radicans to resemble an oak-ish spin on mustard
BingoBoingo: Maybe I have a future processing cashews?
xmj: good morning
BingoBoingo: Still I lean towards choosing market as a dog turd vendor likely won't last long.
xmj: ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: my main question about paypal adding Bitcoin support is-
xmj: ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: who the hell are they trying to Screw Over ?
xmj: PayPal is one of the most annoyingly law-compliant payment processors I know. Their adding BTC cannot be a good sign
thestringpuller: http://media.coindesk.com/2014/03/BjP4akHCIAIaqcy.jpg
ben_vulpes: xmj: if you have to ask...
ben_vulpes: remember that you're the one who insisted on taking a dependency on the aforementioned heathens.
ben_vulpes: out of curiosity: did they ever remit?
xmj: ?
xmj: remit as in me getting the money onto my bank account?
BingoBoingo: ;;sell 1 Roy Wood Sellars "The Philosophy of Physical Realism" at 1.5 BTC Shipping negotiable
gribble: Error: 'Wood' is not a valid price input.
BingoBoingo: ;;sell 1 "Roy Wood Sellars The Philosophy of Physical Realism" at 1.5 BTC Shipping negotiable
gribble: Order id 21493 created.
ben_vulpes: <decimation> mp_colonist: that's an interesting thought, you are probably right. it also makes the actions of the west w.r.t. money obviously 'dishonorable' << zero, one, infinity. a good wot may grant you a coin of honor.
ben_vulpes: details of premine and network operation are hazy.
ben_vulpes: consider though, the coin whose owner controls its network. 'mpexcoin' vs. 'goxcoin'. one trades at an indistinguishable discount (mp claims premium) from market, the other traded at a notable discount (eventually).
thestringpuller: the insomniacs club!
thestringpuller: now meeting in #b-a
ben_vulpes: it ain't that late
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64899 @ 0.00075031 = 48.6944 BTC [-] {6}
BingoBoingo: “We the people of Liberia were originally inhabitants of the United States of North America. … We were excluded from all participation in the government. We were taxed without our consent. … In coming to the shores of Africa, we indulged the pleasing hope we would be permitted to exercise and improve those faculties which impart to man his dignity …
xmj: 09:02:29 <+thestringpuller> the insomniacs club!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00074814 = 9.6884 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !up wolverine
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00074794 = 7.5542 BTC [-] {2}
[]bot: Bet created: "Bitcoin to remain at or above $400 for two months" http://bitbet.us/bet/1051/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00075417 = 14.7063 BTC [+] {2}
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to remain at or above $400 for two months" http://bitbet.us/bet/1051/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 94(Y):6(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,988.
penguirker: New blog post: https://www.bcoinnews.com/bfl-website-changed-recievership/
Naphex: o/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13536 @ 0.00074755 = 10.1188 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: wb
assbot: ty
kakobrekla: ah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00074843 = 6.0249 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: bb up for the time being.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00056952 = 0.5695 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1063 @ 0.00057399 = 0.6102 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 124 @ 0.01099368 = 1.3632 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: lmao: http://shrani.si/f/2h/ER/1akHgOUp/rejected.png
The20YearIRCloud: sounds like europe is leading the way!
kakobrekla: how, with euro making new lows?
The20YearIRCloud: KYC for internet users
bounce: both usa ("nstic") and eu are working on "internet passports", have been for a while too.
thestringpuller: http://bitbet.us/bet/749/?ref=173UtFc8KyVAkvGvHhpB3wFvYaNqNujDB8 << that's a good one
assbot: BitBet - NASA to discover intelligent alien life before 2015 :: 0.04 B (3%) on Yes, 1.13 B (97%) on No | closing in 2 months 1 week| weight: 22`736 (100`000 to 1)
xmj: ahahah
xmj: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/16771/couple-get-married-bitcoin-blockchain-disney-bitcoin-conference/
assbot: Couple to Get Married on the Bitcoin Blockchain at Disney Bitcoin Conference – Bitcoin Magazine
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3152 @ 0.00074732 = 2.3556 BTC [-]
xmj: you kno
xmj: the guy who gets married...
xmj: is a friend of mine whose server i helped migrating... lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1412 @ 0.000575 = 0.8119 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00074732 = 12.9286 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: marriage. first thing a nascent government goes after.
kakobrekla: http://bitbet.us/bet/755/indias-mars-orbiter-mission-will-succeed-on-schedule/#c4012 < lol, so true, so true
assbot: BitBet - India's Mars Orbiter Mission will succeed on schedule :: 0.16 B (25%) on Yes, 0.49 B (75%) on No | closed 2 days 14 hours ago
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00074777 = 16.4509 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7307 @ 0.00074732 = 5.4607 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 430.2, Best ask: 432.09, Bid-ask spread: 1.89000, Last trade: 432.09, 24 hour volume: 32648.91886848, 24 hour low: 394.0, 24 hour high: 452.67, 24 hour vwap: 430.767789311
mircea_popescu: bah what sort of scam 330 is this
ben_vulpes: http://king-joaquin.tumblr.com/post/97850986739
assbot: rich homie
kakobrekla: pasted per request; http://dpaste.com/0DQZB8W.txt
mircea_popescu: so was bitbet actually down ?
kakobrekla: well bitbet was sort of down and assbot suffered the most
Apocalyptic: kakobrekla, hard to tell if guy was serious or trolling
mircea_popescu: poor assbot.
kakobrekla: i dont know, i saw 'low orbit ion cannons cannons' and got scared.
ben_vulpes: http://mshr.info/ << amazing design
assbot: MSHR
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic that's the new generation. sorta half-ass doing things and being "ironic" about them at the same time as a sort of multi-hedged insurance agaisnt the scary world.
kakobrekla: imagine cannons shooting out whole cannons
kakobrekla runs in the basement to hide.
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, ahah
mircea_popescu: can't say he's not tried. can't say he's really tried, either. can't say he's a faggot, not really, can'
mircea_popescu: t say anything. aderpynymous!
artifexd: Anybody else going to the bitcoin conference at Disney? With so many b-a'ers in FL, maybe a b-a get together is not out of line.
mircea_popescu dusts off his technicality club insignia, proceeds to explain to kako difference between running in the basement to hide and running to hide in the basement. the first is like pouring vodka to drink, the latter like getting glass to pour vodka
mircea_popescu: artifexd might be an idea. who all is in fl tho ?!
artifexd: I don't remember. I remember it being a thing about there being several who are.
kakobrekla: but i en up hidden and in the basement in both instances?
ben_vulpes: http://imgur.com/vpqTxnd << oh god oh god my bleeding eyes
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla perhaps!
mircea_popescu: who's Peter Schiff again ?
kakobrekla: im confused by this vodka example. are we getting drunk here or what?
mircea_popescu: yeah we're getting drunk
kakobrekla: got it!
TomServo: mircea_popescu: American investment broker, author and financial commentator. Schiff is CEO and chief global strategist[4] of Euro Pacific Capital Inc., a broker-dealer based in Westport, Connecticut.[5] -According to pediwikia
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you know your secret agent reddit/4chan guy tried to "ddos" trilema earlier too
mircea_popescu: he... failed.
TomServo: Also a radio show
mircea_popescu: TomServo aok.
mircea_popescu: wondering if he's trolling bitbet or just being impersonated.
TomServo: in which instance?
kakobrekla: dunno, but i wouldnt mind to leave britney alone.
mircea_popescu: Number of simultaneously running php and cgi scripts, as well as cron jobs and shell sessions: 65724 (max).
mircea_popescu: that's not SO BAD is it ?
mircea_popescu: TomServo http://bitbet.us/bet/716/btc-worth-over-5000-before-2015/#c4007
assbot: BitBet - BTC worth over $5000 before 2015 :: 5.56 B (8%) on Yes, 63.92 B (92%) on No | closing in 2 months 1 week| weight: 22`415 (100`000 to 1)
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla seriously, as assbot becomes more of a central piece of bitcoin infrastructure, more of this is to be expected.
mircea_popescu: in other words : britney's getting her tits now and she's never EVER going to be left alone ever again.
kakobrekla: britney needs a new bra.
asciilifeform: or a death ray.
mircea_popescu: and a new sex tape
mircea_popescu: (lol of all time, in bar, people put their shit on table - phones keys etc - this hardcore highschooler chick that somewhat reminds me of miss julia t puts a huge bubblegum tape thing
mircea_popescu: "what
mircea_popescu: the hell is that ?!" "oh this ? it's my sex tape"
nubbins`: so i just upgraded my laptop for the first time since i bought it in 2008
mircea_popescu: you finally got someone to take that canadian bitcent? :D
nubbins`: heh!
nubbins`: in fact, i bought the RAM from newegg, altho i didn't use btc
nubbins`: http://imgur.com/7E7qX2C
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
mircea_popescu: (seinfeld line)
nubbins`: ;/
mircea_popescu: nubbins` is that good ?
nubbins`: came with 2gb ram, the 8gb is noticeably better so far
nubbins`: it loaded the SHIT out of this irc client
nubbins`: processor is, well, a 6yo processor
mircea_popescu: cool
nubbins`: but for the work i do, it's irrelevant. all about the ram
nubbins`: finally i can open 40k-node SVG files without weeping
mircea_popescu: how many boobs is that ?
nubbins`: over 9k
mircea_popescu: 3.x nodes/boob ?!
nubbins`: the nipple is just a point w/ heavy stroke
mircea_popescu: are you a robot ?
nubbins` oils penis
nubbins`: does not compute
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/28DVTKW.txt )
mircea_popescu: !b 2 ✂︎
nubbins`: heh.
nubbins`: 2015: "Best of Bash" hardcover silkscreened book released to critical acclaim
asciilifeform: svg << anyone familiar with the atrocity will understand why everyone involved with 'xml' should be roasting in hell, with devils stoking the furnace with copies of the standards literature.
nubbins`: asciilifeform it was actually XSLT which rekindled the flames of my misanthropy
asciilifeform: yes, let's have massive 'plain text' representation for multi-MB turds that no human will ever read.
nubbins`: but hey, it's the only open-source vector graphics standard we have
nubbins`: we don't love it because it's pretty, we love it because it's the only one
asciilifeform: nubbins`: let's eat shit, it's the only food we all have.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i like plaintext, it's why i -a all my gpg
nubbins`: alf OTHERWISE WE'LL STARVE ;(
nubbins`: wait, is eps an open standard?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: deliberate use of non-optimally-compact representation was justified with 'humans will read and write it without having to, horrors, use a program.'
asciilifeform: (text editor, apparently, does not count as 'program')
mircea_popescu: im not defending xml and its devil spawn
mircea_popescu: but there is some merit in using ascii for data.
asciilifeform: and so you get to use multiple GB of memory, to represent a few MB worth of picture.
asciilifeform: isomorphic ascii representation of whatever-the-fuck-we-want can always be generated on demand.
mircea_popescu: yeah
nubbins`: i'm waiting for the part where stan explains what format i should be saving my graphics in
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't use it to hold pics in memory
mircea_popescu: nubbins` it doesn't exist yet.
nubbins`: oh oh.
nubbins`: well fuck
mircea_popescu: ikr ? tell the customers to wait.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: even 1980s-vintage 'postscript' - works.
asciilifeform is actually fond of hand-cranked 'postscript'
nubbins` ponders this
asciilifeform: tastes great with 'latex'
mircea_popescu: make all graphics latex files!
nubbins`: hahah
mircea_popescu: edit with emacs
nubbins`: LaTeX: WYSINECTWYG
mircea_popescu: WYSI^H^H^H^H@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
asciilifeform: lol
nubbins` used latex to produce every paper he ever wrote in uni
asciilifeform also
mircea_popescu: i used lates to make sex toys.
mircea_popescu: latex*
nubbins`: anyway, this is all a bit of a wank. at the end of the day, i have to convert all my graphics to adobe illustrator format
nubbins`: so
mircea_popescu: as to the papers, im pretty sure they were 99% vi
nubbins`: call me when svg/eps supports CMYK color spaces
mircea_popescu: nubbins` there was a hacked toghether non-adobe cymk format thing
nubbins`: ew
mircea_popescu: not sure if anyone other than correction typography used it
nubbins`: i use proprietary 3rd-party drivers for my film printer, my hands are pretty tied on this
nubbins`: inkscape: unfit for output
nubbins`: for the curious: http://www.softwareforscreenprinters.com/accurip
assbot: Accurip
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 3.70296136 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 322 satoshi per share
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00074811 = 18.2539 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: !t h peta
assbot: [HAVELOCK:PETA] 1D: 0.00051500 / 0.00055845 / 0.00061000 (15921 shares, 8.89104610 BTC), 7D: 0.00051500 / 0.00066337 / 0.00075000 (59174 shares, 39.25406987 BTC), 30D: 0.00051041 / 0.0006593 / 0.00096000 (294788 shares, 194.35236153 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.27252613 BTC to 15`097 shares, 8429 satoshi per share
mats_cd03: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/649
mats_cd03: RCE through bash CVE-2014-6271
nubbins`: huh.
nubbins`: that's a big one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00074913 = 16.4059 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: bashbleed...
mircea_popescu: o.O
mats_cd03: dont give anybody ideas asciilifeform
asciilifeform: mats_cd03: complain to the fellow who inserted the 'bug'
mats_cd03: p soon there will be a website n a nice graphic
asciilifeform: his 'idea' not mine.
mats_cd03: not everything is malicious, you know
asciilifeform favours, e.g., 'headbash' vs 'bashbleed'
asciilifeform: not everything is malicious << see the ancient thread (mp's?) re: whether it is useful to distinguish between sufficiently incompetent 'rangers' and actual scammers
mats_cd03: seen't it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform link ? :)
asciilifeform: mats_cd03 linked above
mircea_popescu: so basically all cgi calls have been forever vulnerable. thanks the world for php ?
asciilifeform: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/649
assbot: oss-sec: CVE-2014-6271: remote code execution through bash
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no your most recent reference.
asciilifeform: ah the other thing
asciilifeform: !s incompetence
assbot: 156 results for 'incompetence' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=incompetence
asciilifeform: ^ somewhere in there...
mircea_popescu: Note that on Linux systems where /bin/sh is symlinked to /bin/bash,
mircea_popescu: any popen() / system() calls from within languages such as PHP would
mircea_popescu: be of concern due to the ability to control HTTP_* in the env.
nubbins`: i hate the phrase "so there you have it"
nubbins`: (was just watching a video of some asshole bending his new iphone)
nubbins`: so there you have it, folks: you can bend a thin aluminum phone with your hands
nubbins`: no fucking shit :/
kakobrekla: i just tried mine. does not bend. does blend though.
kakobrekla: (is not appleturdware - i really feel i need to express this.)
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: what wasn't ?
kakobrekla: what wasn't what ?
asciilifeform: 'is not apple turdware'
kakobrekla: well anything not apple is not apple turdware, just turdware.
kakobrekla: but its a (now kinda old) android with unibody so i can hammer nails with it.
asciilifeform: https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/09/24/bash-specially-crafted-environment-variables-code-injection-attack
assbot: Bash specially-crafted environment variables code injection attack | Red Hat Security
mircea_popescu: !up wywialm
mircea_popescu can't help thinking these people are idiots.
mircea_popescu: i mean take a plumber. a plumber i can respect.
mircea_popescu: but the cream of the crop of computer monkeys ? how. why.
kakobrekla: a plumber destroyed my friends house last month.
mircea_popescu: DHCP clients invoke shell scripts to configure the system, with values taken from a potentially malicious server. This would allow arbitrary commands to be run, typically as root, on the DHCP client machine.
nubbins`: it's like showing up at richard branson's house and the hot&cold taps are reversed
kakobrekla: liek 30k of damage and insurance is fighting to pay cause 'these things happen'.
nubbins`: hmm, canada post claims force majeure in not delivering my package on time
mircea_popescu: env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test" << tester.
nubbins`: those bastards
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla hm.
mircea_popescu: that's the best line i ever heard
mircea_popescu: "we're not paying out insurance when things happen because things happen"
kakobrekla: yep
kakobrekla: its insane.
bounce: sue, sue
nubbins`: hm
nubbins`: maybe the shitty plumber was also force majeure
nubbins`: insurance company: "WE couldn't stop it from happening"
kakobrekla: the problem is she has a little kido and needs to solve this before the winter
kakobrekla: its gonna sue alright.
kakobrekla: !up CheckDavid
CheckDavid: Thanks kakobrekla
CheckDavid: Insurance firms are now in the business of insuring things that don't happen? Amazing business model
CheckDavid: Lolol
CheckDavid: Clause N° 742 - if something happens, it is not covered by this plan
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-womans-job/
Duffer1: oh kakobrekla how did that bitsurant / bitbet turn out?
mircea_popescu: bash: warning: x: ignoring function definition attempt bash: error importing function definition for `x' <<< patched bash sez
kakobrekla: havent heard from any of them
kakobrekla: maybe MP did
nubbins`: mp's gender-related posts are so cringey
Duffer1: aww :( that was highly entertaining
kakobrekla: iirc they said they will publish it somewhere sometime
kakobrekla: as their first case or smth
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 i have nfi what is this again ?
Duffer1: lol awesome
kakobrekla: i figured it out though
Duffer1: some tool bet 1btc on bitbet after the outcome was known, then tried to use the blockchain to say he bet in time, got refunded .99btc, then had some bitsurant derp try to claim winnings
kakobrekla: now cex and bitfinex has losing only assets and icbit wanted to have that too
kakobrekla: so thats why they will now sell insurance on icbit
kakobrekla: and sell it on bitsurant
kakobrekla: to other party
mircea_popescu: im confused.
mircea_popescu: we're not seriously discussing a bitcent are we ?
kakobrekla: should say issue insurance on bitsurant
Duffer1: yep
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu pirate started with satoshi
mircea_popescu: so if you insure a bitcent how much is the policy cost ? fiddy satoshi ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 732 @ 0.00074975 = 0.5488 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: btcjam started with satoshi
kakobrekla: still full operational chumpatron
kakobrekla: fully*
mircea_popescu: so is teh usg.
kakobrekla: sure
kakobrekla: no wait, INsure!
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i bet you not more than three people have read the bash code since 1999.
mircea_popescu: i tell you, if my signaturss thing existed people would at least KNOW what a fucking fraud this foss bs is
mircea_popescu: "o, many eyes". WHAT many eyes.
mircea_popescu: no fucking eyes, and even less brains.
asciilifeform: 'many eyes, many eyes!' he said, pointing at meat, with flies.
assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/182HYAG.txt )
kakobrekla: !b 5 ✂︎
kakobrekla: such poetry
asciilifeform: loletry.
bounce: eh, meat. who wants to meet meat?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: consider though, the coin whose owner controls its network. <<< pedigree of owner is of import in a situation of absent information.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2014#843358 << came up last night... ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2014 05:39:28; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: importance of pedigree is proportional to information poverty.
mircea_popescu: http://shrani.si/f/2h/ER/1akHgOUp/rejected.png << lol pretty good.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was pretty much directly quoting fro mlog :)
asciilifeform: aha
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: precisely the point. owner's pedigree is the only thing backing a premined coin whose mining network is controlled entirely by the owner.
ben_vulpes: %t
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 198 Ask: 266 Last Price: 266 24h-Vol: 0k High: 266 Low: 266 VWAP: 266
thestringpuller: anyone from bitpay in WoT?
thestringpuller: or are they just anti-wot cause they want to make their own via facebook...
thestringpuller: !seach get bits
thestringpuller: !search get bits
assbot: 149 results for 'get bits' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=get+bits
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller josh rossi works or used to work there
kakobrekla: he is liek everywhere
thestringpuller: what's his wot handle?
mircea_popescu: ;;ident mjr_
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
mircea_popescu: ;;gpg info mjr_
gribble: No such user registered.
kakobrekla: cept on irc
mircea_popescu: uh
mircea_popescu: wtf was it
Apocalyptic: thestringpuller, maybe jgarzik is
thestringpuller: ;;gettrust jgarzik
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user jgarzik: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=jgarzik | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jgarzik | Rated since: Mon Nov 8 13:35:30 2010
thestringpuller: yea he is a lead dev there
kakobrekla: ;;gpg info mjr
gribble: No such user registered.
mircea_popescu: !s mjr_
assbot: 5826 results for 'mjr_' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mjr_
thestringpuller: !s from:mjr
assbot: 5301 results for 'from:mjr' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Amjr
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-04-2014#627639 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-04-2014 16:43:33; mjr_: ;;ident
thestringpuller: elusive like smickles I see
kakobrekla: ;;rate josh_rossi 1 met IRL back in the day
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user josh_rossi has been recorded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22803 @ 0.00075196 = 17.1469 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: https://i.imgur.com/b9NdPiT.jpg
kakobrekla: and they didnt even go as far as mars (in the movie).
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4567 @ 0.0007542 = 3.4444 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'the best eulogy is suicide on the grave' << 47 ronin!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00075026 = 5.8895 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: http://console-cowboys.blogspot.com/2014/09/arris-cable-modem-backdoor-im.html << not the glorious turd tower that is 'headbash', but still great.
assbot: consolecowboys: Arris Cable Modem Backdoor - I'm a technician, trust me.
asciilifeform: http://perpelle.wordpress.com/artikler-og-leserinnlegg/erik-naggum-in-memoriam/#comment-145 << aha this is where it was. (story of naggum and his death by tax.)
assbot: Erik Naggum in memoriam | Pernille Nylehns blog
asciilifeform: 'Erik of course, argued. For years and years. And he wouldn’t pay ANY tax because they were so unreasonable. And then of course he did become guilty of tax evasion, and their tax claim just grew and grew. As a refsult, he couldn’t own anything because it would be confiscated, couldn’t earn money because they would take most of it … and so on. After some years, everything in his life was influenced, and p
asciilifeform: oisoned, by this. I won’t say he was paranoid, but he became very wary and suspicious, and had real trouble trusting people. And his medical condition just got worse and worse...'
thestringpuller: So Naggum would have lived if he had paid taxes?
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3129896583995790@naggum.no.html
assbot: Re: Dead software (was: A draft business plan for free software LISP vendors) - Naggum cll archive
asciilifeform: (about 1/3 in)
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: naggum figured out that he could work ~3 months per year and earn the same money, on account of the strange tax laws of his country
asciilifeform: and so he did. but didn't realize what would happen next.
asciilifeform: the local bureaucrats did not believe that he used the remaining year to relax in his library, carry on as polymathic scholar unencumered by day job (a la taleb)
asciilifeform: they assumed that he's whoring under the table.
asciilifeform: and demanded their cut.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00075348 = 8.7404 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller perhaps not, but the norwegian government would have survived had it not assasinated naggum.
jurov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyXlChb7-HI
assbot: Handwrytten Robot in Action! - YouTube
The20YearIRCloud: .
The20YearIRCloud: how's that tax work asciilifeform ?
asciilifeform: The20YearIRCloud: ~100% after certain threshold. -- if you really give a damn, ask a norwegian.
asciilifeform: jurov: similar machines - but entirely mechanical, no computer - existed since early 20th c., and are still used by american politicians to 'sign' documents.
asciilifeform: http://www.damilic.com/autopen-products/office-signature-machines << vendor.
assbot: Signature Machines - The Autopen Company
asciilifeform: ^ now digital, sure. lusers.
ben_vulpes: ;;ident jaycutler6969
gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.
ben_vulpes: ;;gpg info jaycutler6969
gribble: No such user registered.
asciilifeform: !
The20YearIRCloud: oh my
asciilifeform: is there... a fungus among us ?
kakobrekla: jaycutler6969 level1: 0, level2: 3
mats_cd03: a meow
asciilifeform: ;;gpg info jaycutler6969
gribble: No such user registered.
kakobrekla: irc nick != wot nick
kakobrekla: ;;gpg info [ident kakobrekla]
gribble: User 'kakobrekla', with keyid 27AF75321F2489E8, fingerprint 27C3CE9A20851312F086268C27AF75321F2489E8, and bitcoin address None, registered on Fri May 13 18:04:32 2011, last authed on Wed Sep 24 13:20:49 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=kakobrekla . Currently authenticated from hostmask kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla .
kakobrekla: but he is gone now.
kakobrekla: so cant ident
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.0007542 = 6.5993 BTC [+]
lobbes: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/23/nobel-peace-prize-fact-day-syria-7th-country-bombed-obama/
assbot: Syria Becomes the 7th Predominantly Muslim Country Bombed by 2009 Nobel Peace Laureate - The Intercept
wywialm: asciilifeform, I was waiting for the opportunity to thank you for introducing me to the writings of Erik Naggum through your blog posts. So - thank you.
asciilifeform: wywialm: you're welcome.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11170 @ 0.00075198 = 8.3996 BTC [-] {2}
diametric: wat.
diametric: its always fun talking in a channel and not realizing I don't have voice because my IRC client is dumb and outputs the error to another window that I routinely ignore.
kakobrekla: lol
kakobrekla: now you know why nobody likes you!
mircea_popescu: diametric so what did you say ?
diametric: i don't remember, just comments to things here and there over the last few days.
diametric: nothing important.
asciilifeform habitually checks log.bitcoin-assets.com - on account of frequent netsplits
asciilifeform: diametric: ^ good pill against this situation
diametric: yeah, I'm bad at reading the logs.
kakobrekla: if you see assbot then you wont see anything new in the log
kakobrekla: this is re split
asciilifeform: well yes.
kakobrekla: you get parted from assbot often? me - no.
asciilifeform: often enough to remember that it is possible.
kakobrekla: :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 750 @ 0.0007542 = 0.5657 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: britni will never part with you kako
kakobrekla: cept when ddosed :(
kakobrekla: time to get more boxes me thinks.
mircea_popescu: more boxers for britni!
jurov: ;;seen britni
gribble: I have not seen britni.
asciilifeform: ;;seen the elephant
gribble: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain * as a wildcard.
jurov: ;;seen *
gribble: * could be asciilifeform (35 seconds ago), <last> (35 seconds ago), jurov (1 minute and 5 seconds ago), mircea_popescu (6 minutes and 12 seconds ago), kakobrekla (7 minutes and 3 seconds ago), assbot (8 minutes and 29 seconds ago), diametric (12 minutes and 8 seconds ago), wywialm (31 minutes and 9 seconds ago), lobbes (32 minutes and 22 seconds ago), mats_cd03 (35 minutes and 5 seconds ago), (50 more messages)
jurov: ohmy
jurov: and who is <last> ?
kakobrekla: who is (50 more messages) is better question!
kakobrekla: last is obv last
kakobrekla: same timestamp!
jurov: ;;more
gribble: The20YearIRCloud (36 minutes and 18 seconds ago), ben_vulpes (38 minutes and 3 seconds ago), thestringpuller (1 hour, 42 minutes, and 4 seconds ago), Apocalyptic (2 hours, 31 minutes, and 39 seconds ago), atcbot (2 hours, 34 minutes, and 11 seconds ago), bounce (2 hours, 40 minutes, and 15 seconds ago), Duffer1 (2 hours, 47 minutes, and 29 seconds ago), nubbins` (2 hours, 50 minutes, and 39 (49 more messages)
kakobrekla: just 49 to go.
jurov: ;;more
gribble: seconds ago), penguirker (2 hours, 52 minutes, and 21 seconds ago), CheckDavid (2 hours, 52 minutes, and 27 seconds ago), TomServo (4 hours, 11 minutes, and 41 seconds ago), artifexd (4 hours, 17 minutes, and 2 seconds ago), xmj (5 hours, 56 minutes, and 6 seconds ago), davout (8 hours, 36 minutes, and 5 seconds ago), Naphex (12 hours, 42 minutes, and 13 seconds ago), []bot (13 hours, 4 (48 more messages)
jurov: only for you kako
kakobrekla: awww <3
jurov: ohhh, poor []bot
The20YearIRCloud: Hmm?
jurov: just general mischief
kakobrekla: ;;seen [last]
gribble: I have not seen just general mischief.
kakobrekla: hm ok
nubbins`: nanotube :D
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: ;;seen [ticker-last]
gribble: Error: "ticker-last" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: uh lol
kakobrekla: ;;seen [ticker --last]
gribble: I have not seen 427.72.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen drop table;-- ?
gribble: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain * as a wildcard.
kakobrekla: ;;seen boby_tables?
gribble: I have not seen boby_tables?.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen fu*
gribble: fu* could be fulloffantasies (11 weeks, 5 days, 7 hours, 16 minutes, and 36 seconds ago), FUDdealer (45 weeks, 0 days, 19 hours, 9 minutes, and 8 seconds ago), fupafooder (52 weeks, 0 days, 0 hours, 36 minutes, and 23 seconds ago), furuknap (1 year, 11 weeks, 1 day, 15 hours, 40 minutes, and 16 seconds ago), furuknap_ (1 year, 12 weeks, 5 days, 17 hours, 17 minutes, and 21 seconds (2 more messages)
kakobrekla: ;;seen [random]
gribble: Error: The command "random" is available in the Dict and Factoids plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "random".
kakobrekla: wanst some random there
kakobrekla: ;;seen [bc,convert eur]
gribble: I have not seen 1 BTC = 429.74 USD = 336.228576 eur.
kakobrekla: but it was!!
kakobrekla: i swear.
asciilifeform: ;;seen [seen]
gribble: I haven't seen anyone matching (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain * as a wildcard..
mircea_popescu: lmao
kakobrekla: ;;seen [seen[seen]]
gribble: I haven't seen anyone matching I haven't seen anyone matching (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain * as a wildcard...
mircea_popescu: ;;seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen [seen]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
gribble: Error: Spurious "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
asciilifeform: student exercise: derive 'y combinator' on this formalism.
mircea_popescu: its pretty much pissoble.
asciilifeform: extra points, prove universality.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen [env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test"]
gribble: Error: "env" is not a valid command.
nubbins`: ;;seen [seen *]
gribble: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
mircea_popescu: aww
nubbins`: oh shit he told on me
asciilifeform: lulzies
nubbins`: D:
mircea_popescu: ;;seen [roulette]
gribble: I haven't seen anyone matching *click*.
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: ;;seen [coin]
gribble: I have not seen tails.
mircea_popescu: lmao
kakobrekla: lol
jurov: ;;later tell jurov env x='() { :;}; rm -rf /' bash -c "echo this is a test"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;seen [up mrspam]
gribble: Error: "up" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen [echo !up pampam]
gribble: I have not seen !up pampam.
nubbins`: ;;seen [eauth nubbins`]
gribble: I have not seen Request successful for user nubbins`, hostmask nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163081094.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/CF2950F23C844002.
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: apparently we can be endlessly entertained by an accidental reimplementation of malboge
nubbins`: ;;seen [echo ,,rate nubbins` 1 good guy]
gribble: I have not seen ,,rate nubbins` 1 good guy.
kakobrekla: ;;seen [rate kakobrekla 1 noice]
mircea_popescu: ;;seen ( . )( . )
gribble: Error: This command cannot be used in a nested context.
gribble: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain * as a wildcard.
asciilifeform: malbolge << befunge.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen "( . )( . )"
gribble: I have not seen ( . )( . ).
nubbins`: third nip
artifexd: poor sheltered gribble
mircea_popescu: what shelter is that i say.
nubbins`: ;;seen [sell 1 "GRIBS t-shirt" @ 1 btc]
gribble: I have not seen Order id 21499 created..
nubbins` claps
nubbins`: ;;seen [view 21499]
gribble: I have not seen #21499 Wed Sep 24 16:02:15 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 GRIBS t-shirt @ 1 btc (None).
kakobrekla: hah
kakobrekla: wd
mircea_popescu: ahh sweet people buying trilema credits i love you ever so
nubbins`: true story, i lost ~60 creds when i wiped this computer
mircea_popescu: by now im selling like 1-2 bitcents' worht a day
mircea_popescu: technically enough for a living.
asciilifeform still innocent of the act of buying honest trilema tickets
nubbins`: technically so!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what you bought contraband ?
nubbins`: not unheard of
Duffer1: lmao aftermarket cookies?
asciilifeform: aftermarket ips.
nubbins`: nothing stopping you from sharing your token
nubbins`: mp, put another way, does this mean you're selling a thousand articles a day?
mircea_popescu: i think more currently.
mircea_popescu: https://blockchain.info/address/16crkmdoaK6Tq8NP3FVK7Uxq5Dwdicb3c3 << it's got so bad im targeted by scamvertisers.
assbot: Bitcoin Address 16crkmdoaK6Tq8NP3FVK7Uxq5Dwdicb3c3
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/shots-from-a-voyage/
Duffer1: cheap ones too
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thick cat is thick!
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 people who know they're wasting their time/resources tend to engage in this bizarre rationalizing process whereby by reducing the expense their wasted effort is... less wasted ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno
Duffer1: so it seems
asciilifeform: wasted effort << what effort.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda my point.
mircea_popescu: that one's not even tried is a poor excuse for one having failed.
asciilifeform puzzled
kakobrekla: monkey see monkey do
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you dispute some party somewhere is trying to advertise something there ?
asciilifeform: aha that!
kakobrekla: if it works - another matter.
asciilifeform thought the thread was about trilema tokens
mircea_popescu: "well you didn't manage" "well we didn't really try" "o i see"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah some derp with a 1 satoshi commented tx
asciilifeform: bci is spam magnet, sure.
mircea_popescu: jesus this is easily the most batshit insane stuff i've seen this week.
mircea_popescu: "NYT: talented poor not choosing to attend good colleges"
mircea_popescu: "But if, as the Times reports, these students do not even know of the existence of better colleges in America, and they have absolutely no aspiration to attend any schools that are outside their local area, how smart and talented could they be? They appear to have very small horizongs and little knowledge of and little curiosity in the world. Don’t very smart people tend to have large horizons?. My guess is that the
mircea_popescu: Times is doing its usual rationalizations for the intellectual and other deficiencies of blacks. I did not read the entire article,but I’d say that it’s fair possibility that it ends up asserting that these students are culturally and geographically isolated by racial discrimination and by the lack of special federal programs that inform them of the existence of better schools. .The eternal top-priority project and
mircea_popescu: moral obligation of Liberal America (America 2.0)—at unlimited cost in societal effort, taxpayers’ money, and orchestrated white guilt—is to render blacks in general as functional as whites in general. And that will never happen. And no one who makes his living in mainstream America dare say it.."
mircea_popescu: but then, a commenter : "Daniel F. writes: I saw from Steve Sailer’s post on the same article that the low-income, high-aptitude cohort under discussion is 69 percent white and 15 percent Asian. So the large majority of the kids at issue are white."
mircea_popescu: so the response ? "Thanks for the correction. But I wonder if that information was in the Times article (which, again, I didn’t read the whole of and was only making a reasonable speculation on, based on past Timesean behavor), or only in the Sailer post."
Duffer1: i wonder if i have to report that one bitcent i got from a scamvertiser as income...
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 was 1 satoshi
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2014#834623 << similar. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2014 00:00:23; asciilifeform: http://putnik1.livejournal.com/2048845.html << highly relevant
Duffer1: i mean the one i got a while ago .0001
kakobrekla: Duffer1 return to sender.
Duffer1: https://blockchain.info/address/1MHKhfiC7AgZdErt9b8xkXbcKoWSxPjJgG
assbot: Bitcoin Address 1MHKhfiC7AgZdErt9b8xkXbcKoWSxPjJgG
Duffer1: oh .00001 :/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1808 @ 0.00058297 = 1.054 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform someone actually said this derp is "the blogging career that stands out on the Internet and in the history of American letters as a tour de force of philosophical and cultural insight". because epistula non erubescit or some shit.
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2014/shots-from-a-voyage/#comment-108100
assbot: Shots from a voyage pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
diametric: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/uri-geller-identifies-the-real-reason-the-iphone-6-bends-2014-09-24?link=MW_home_latest_news
assbot: Heres the real reason iPhones are bending - MarketWatch
diametric: my sides hurt from laughter.
asciilifeform can probably identify the rest of them, too, but can't be bothered
diametric: This reads like an Onion article.
mircea_popescu: wow that guy still exists ?!
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X0F1Qjn0Ac
assbot: George Carlin - Things You Never See - YouTube
rithm: #bendgazi
asciilifeform turns around, looks at shelf
asciilifeform: damn it
asciilifeform: it's the same book, different edition!
mircea_popescu: you're too escitable :)
asciilifeform: the light switch is soviet SOP, though.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: friend's house ?
mircea_popescu: nah just some woman
asciilifeform: she grows a 'grade A' microjaguar.
mircea_popescu: riverside. i think they pretty much grow themselves.
mircea_popescu: !up Decima|
asciilifeform: http://www.cnccookbook.com/CCMillTramming.html << for other wretched n00bs in my situation
assbot: Tramming a Mill
asciilifeform: ^ pictured is 'adult' machine, but geometry is 'one for all of us, like victory.'
thestringpuller: bitpay is here
thestringpuller: they spend way too much money on swag
RagnarDanneskjol: mod6 - P2Pool comes with a json api embedded. returns a json string that has the pool information. does this fit requirements for teh bot?
thestringpuller: 3 key factors in a hot wallet
thestringpuller: * UX
thestringpuller: * Ability to easily make purchases/transactions
thestringpuller: * Security
thestringpuller: the latter one should be #1
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00075375 = 16.0549 BTC [-] {2}
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/o-hai-let-me-wanna-be/
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ^
kakobrekla: aha
kakobrekla: bb is configured to only take a very small part of server resources atm.
kakobrekla: so you can knock it down easier i guess.
kakobrekla: if you are after http server
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00075375 = 4.8617 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 98 @ 0.14235895 = 13.9512 BTC [-] {23}
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla in any case 100 hits/second is pretty heavy.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3177 @ 0.00075422 = 2.3962 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7273 @ 0.00075424 = 5.4856 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/06/07/archipelago-and-atomic-communitarianism/ << possibly the most idiotic thing i read all week.
assbot: Archipelago and Atomic Communitarianism | Slate Star Codex
mircea_popescu: it seems i say that a lot these days.
thestringpuller: the bitpay people seem relatively sane
bounce: sanity as currency. distilled and captured in shiny coins.
mircea_popescu: idiocy'd be more abundant.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00075424 = 13.614 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://tarancutavesela.md/mananc-si-plang-plang-si-mananc-bataie/ << decent example of the moldavian exploitation of russian.
assbot: Mnnc i plng. Plng i mnnc…btaie…
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.0007527 = 4.2151 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: "bărbații discutau despre zapceasti, porșni, zadnii hod și zajiganie" <> "the men were talking of запчасти, поршни, задний ход and зажигание." etc
asciilifeform: lol!
asciilifeform: dafuq!
mircea_popescu: i've been tellin' you, but tellin' is one thing and showing another
asciilifeform: then again, the blather of, e.g., a russian programmer, probably sounds rather similar to this - to english speaker
mircea_popescu: quite.
asciilifeform: 'soviet informatik' terminology like цикл (cycle) for 'loop' is, afaik, only remembered by the older folks who came of age on '70s-'80s books
asciilifeform: (or apprenticed, prior)
mircea_popescu: cycle happens to be a bad word for loop.
asciilifeform: why? cyclical flow graph.
mircea_popescu: because cycle has this connotation of immutability, whereas loop is adequately derpy.
dignork: asciilifeform: цикл it is, how is it called nowadays?
asciilifeform has heard various angloabominations
dignork: луп? sounds funny
mircea_popescu: lup ftw :D
mircea_popescu: (wolf, in romanian)
dignork: because залупа, лупоглазый etc.
asciilifeform: the kind homo homini x est ?
asciilifeform: lol!
mircea_popescu: yup
mircea_popescu: zalupa hahaha
mircea_popescu: i tell you, it's perfect.
asciilifeform grumbles at having purchased a 'dial indicator' instead of a 'dial test indicator' - entirely different animals
kakobrekla: at least you didnt get a plant.
pete_dushenski: unless it was nuclear.
pete_dushenski: nuless it was unclear.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: the question that almost begs to be asked is whether haakon (cortez, whoever) would immediately seize upon modern tech as being the product of long-dead wizards, as it is. << any books to recommend on cortez?
pete_dushenski: and entirely unrelatably, venice?
pete_dushenski hungry for history books
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: anyone from bitpay in WoT? << ayup. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Pierre_Rochard&sign=ANY&type=RECV
assbot: Rating Details for User 'Pierre_Rochard'
pete_dushenski: ;;lastseen pierre_rochard
gribble: Error: "lastseen" is not a valid command.
pete_dushenski: ;;seen pierre_rochard
gribble: pierre_rochard was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 weeks, 6 days, 0 hours, 44 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <Pierre_Rochard> mircea_popescu: ah, well I’ll myself out then
mats_cd03: www.nobius.org/~dbg/practical-file-system-design.pdf << i have been enjoying this recently. re: BeOS, but a decent primer on how file systems work, too.
pete_dushenski: duty calls, hasta manana.
thestringpuller: thanks pete hopefully you see this in the log
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1725 @ 0.00075193 = 1.2971 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lmao thios guy.
BingoBoingo: !s woodchipper fan fiction
assbot: 0 results for 'woodchipper fan fiction' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=woodchipper+fan+fiction
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski lord norwich is the english authority on venice
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: le origini di venezia etc for italian speakers.
BingoBoingo: So the Virtual girlfriend <hashlet> fanboys found my post http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/29/what-the-fuck-is-a-hashlet/#comment-35912
assbot: What the Fuck is a Hashlet? | Bingo Blog