mircea_popescu: asciilifeform journos must seriously be going to a special retardation school.

mircea_popescu: i have no idea what sort of reverse midas effect this is, but it's uncanny

mircea_popescu: any topic they touch turns to shit

mircea_popescu: http://www.insideworldfootball.com/world-football/europe/14238-popescu-jailed-as-romanian-judge-hammers-football-fraudsters

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves people volunteer for women in heels to walk all over their ballsack.

mircea_popescu: what do you want, people are strange.

mircea_popescu: did they do that back in the gun days toio ?

mircea_popescu: also, tasers are stupid easy to counteract. no idea why anyone thinks they're effective or anything.

mircea_popescu: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/151067206670?lpid=82

mircea_popescu: $100 dollars.

mircea_popescu: what's a taser cost, 2k ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, you want to short it.

mircea_popescu: nothing quite like the shit exploding in the cop's hands

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves double the chain with kevlar, he can shoot you till he gets bored.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is true.

mircea_popescu: what, and it failed to penetrate ?

mircea_popescu: that's trollage.

mircea_popescu: the round, even historical, is closely subsonic.

mircea_popescu: ;;calc 300**2 * .2 / 2

mircea_popescu: 9kJ. srsly nao.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform most .45 fires at around 300km/h

mircea_popescu: even taking a more historically accurate 200 km/h which is what i did...

mircea_popescu: or meant to do...

mircea_popescu: what is this, some martial arts fascination ?

mircea_popescu: a .45 round will go through an engine block, let alone some bloke

mircea_popescu: i just can't conceive how that'd happen. maybe if the round was hand filled with dust ?

mircea_popescu: what is it, copper mostly

mircea_popescu: copper-nickel w/e

mircea_popescu: i suppose in an extremely rare case a shot could ricochet of a rib or something, but srsly nao.

mircea_popescu: i would guess this'd be because a gun is pretty much the coolest toy adults can afford.

mircea_popescu: all those "guns are not toys" adds backfired i guess

mircea_popescu: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417217/quotes?item=qt0158941 << re this excellent pacino performance :

mircea_popescu: people seem to have taken the smoking kills adds the same way

mircea_popescu: "well it DOES kill people, and it HASN'T killed me,

mircea_popescu: therefore i am special

mircea_popescu: ergo smoking makes me special"

mircea_popescu: B007 depends how you measure it.

mircea_popescu: PM was trading ~50 a share in 2008 and is trading ~90 a share now

mircea_popescu: 31bn revenue / 8bn net

mircea_popescu: about 7x as big as facebook, to put it in terms readily digestible by the online crowd

mircea_popescu: much better profit margin, too. twice as good, in fact.

mircea_popescu: BTI is probably a better example. ~5 per share in the 80s, 100+ per share now.

mircea_popescu: ~25bn gross ~6bn net, so roughly 4x facebook.

mircea_popescu: so there you have it : smoking is down and the industry makes a degree of magnitude more than social media.

mircea_popescu: who's killing who here ?

mircea_popescu: so what do you mean, smoking as a behaviour ?

mircea_popescu: fucking is also down in the us.

mircea_popescu: and making sense. and making money. and generally everything.

mircea_popescu: it's what happens when places go to shit. everything goes down.

mircea_popescu: B007 what huge industry were you tihnking about ?

mircea_popescu: they can't even run a paper mill for chrissakes.

mircea_popescu: my grandfather was a mayor, and a bunch of other things, but the one true source of public respect was that he owned and operated an american mill

mircea_popescu: it was like... people actually came an extra distance with oxen fucking carts just because of that cool.

mircea_popescu: then there was a war and a number of unfortunate choices... and by today people may want japanese stuff,

mircea_popescu: but i can't readily think of anything which'd be improved by being made in the us.

mircea_popescu: perhaps a cuisinart ?

mircea_popescu: they don't really make the cuisinarts in the us anymore do they

mircea_popescu: not even a cuisinart.

mircea_popescu: The trademark is a subsidiary of and owned by Conair Corporation which acquired the brand following Cuisinart's bankruptcy in 1989.

mircea_popescu: heh.

mircea_popescu: the consumer appliance that inspired jobs.

mircea_popescu: how quickly the cool goes...

mircea_popescu: well at least that gold didnt turn into pure shit.

mircea_popescu: mike_c it doesn't sell in the us ?!

mircea_popescu: no lm, no marlboro ?

mircea_popescu: oh

mircea_popescu: mike_c yeah it doesn't substantially alter the argument

mircea_popescu: in fact, it bolsters it : intl only pm does substantially equally well as the us-only pm

mircea_popescu: hahahaha this is hysterical :

mircea_popescu: USA tobacco18,474 / 4,812

mircea_popescu: International tobacco48,260/ 8,458

mircea_popescu: usa tobaccomuch more productive. i guess bans help indeed.

mircea_popescu: i guess you must have yeah.

mircea_popescu: what is coinsight

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: kinda dubious in that it's based on gox.

mircea_popescu: Transactions are recorded automatically every 5 minutes from this page, which displays all Bitcoin transactions from Mt.Gox that have not been confirmed for 2 or more hours according to their wallet software.

mircea_popescu: link is to mtgox api

mircea_popescu: it definitely is.

mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete you know, there are numerous religions longer lasting than the catholic church

mircea_popescu: confucius, for one, was born way before christ.

mircea_popescu: for that matter, so has buddha

mircea_popescu: either of them has more followers today than jesus

mircea_popescu: judaism = christianity.

mircea_popescu: nobody in the business seriously considers the branches apart from the root.

mircea_popescu: judaism -> orthodoxy -> catholicism -> islam, same thing

mircea_popescu: minor disagreements over who exactly the prophets are

mircea_popescu: i guess you can include the various protestant and neoprotestant sects in there.

mircea_popescu: generally they're ignored for their complete lack of intellectual production and cultural impact

mircea_popescu: but if you go by headcount i guess you gotta count the muricans.

mircea_popescu: only because you're unfamiliar with the east.

mircea_popescu: MisterE: Little late for that eh? < lawl. it's what bystanders do, usually. comment on future events as they perceive them, which obviously to the actual players are long past.

mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete the objection was to art land and gold

mircea_popescu: if you think anyone can compete with buddhism over that you're nuts, they probably have more than all the others combined.

mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 yeah not bad measure.

mircea_popescu: they (ie, indian govt) recently opened the vault of donations of one of the larger temples

mircea_popescu: > 200 tons of gold in items, many older than 1700

mircea_popescu: never seen before.

mircea_popescu: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/07/06/137627235/some-22-billion-in-gold-diamonds-jewels-found-in-indian-temple

mircea_popescu: everything thery could get their hands on, basically.

mircea_popescu: hey justusranvier

mircea_popescu: my point exactly.

mircea_popescu: justusranvier what's your relation to conformal ?

mircea_popescu: yeah they really should have a guy here.

mircea_popescu: at the very least mike_c and benkay'd be very interesting in their stuff.

mircea_popescu: speaking of wolverine...

mircea_popescu: lol huge asses ? srsly ?

mircea_popescu: http://cdn.head-fi.org/a/ae/aec36ec3_arty_pics_big_ass_amateurs_butt_morenna_large.jpg_480_480_0_64000_0_1_0.jpeg < that is large ass.

mircea_popescu: i wish i could get dali to ilustrate eulora

mircea_popescu: sadly...

mircea_popescu: "If the paintings have tons of little people in them but otherwise seem normal, it’s Bruegel. ajahaha

mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete i don't think author even understands there's any depth to the matter. the bread's all flat to him, like he was born in the internet age.

mircea_popescu: punkman i suppose the putin-ness has to do with ethnicity. eyck painted locals and putin is apparently baltic stock

mircea_popescu: no, flat like cartman.

mircea_popescu: http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Jewpacabra/Script grep "No! The bread's all flat! No!"

mircea_popescu: An application of micromorts is measuring the value that humans place on risk: for example, one can consider the amount of money one would have to pay a person to get him or her to accept a one-in-a-million chance of death (or conversely the amount that someone might be willing to pay to avoid a one-in-a-million chance of death). When put thus, people claim a high number but when inferred from their day-to-day actions

mircea_popescu: (e.g., how much they are willing to pay for safety features on cars) a typical value is around $50 (in 2009)

mircea_popescu: However utility functions are often not linear, i.e the more a person has already spent on their safety the less they are willing to spend to further increase their safety. Therefore the $50 valuation should not be taken to mean that a human life (1 million micromorts) is valued at $50,000,000.

mircea_popescu: [But much less.]

mircea_popescu: Furthermore the local linearity of any utility curve means that the micromort is useful for small incremental risks and rewards, not necessarily for large risks

mircea_popescu: [in the sense it overstates their cost]

mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete make.

mircea_popescu: "He (John Kerry) made clear that continued military escalation and provocation in Crimea or elsewhere in Ukraine, along with steps to annex Crimea to Russia would close any available space for diplomacy, and he urged utmost restraint," the official said.

mircea_popescu: the obscure part in all of this is what exact space for diplomacy does russia need here ?

mircea_popescu: you want the gas fine, you don't want the gas also fine.

mircea_popescu: you want us to confiscate your investments fine, you don't want us to also fine.

mircea_popescu: rarely has one such a conveniently diplomacy-immune position.

mircea_popescu: nothing at all would happen lol

mircea_popescu: there;s no such thing as "powerful" in the fiat world, being it a politician including obama, or a media personality including whoever the fuck you watch, or a financial guy.

mircea_popescu: mat dimon is powerless to do anything about anything, one regular here is a lot more powerful in that WE ACTUALLY CONTROL our bitcoins.

mircea_popescu: random CEO can do exactly jack shit.

mircea_popescu: which is really why it's so fun to humiliate and torment them, the naked emperors of power.

mircea_popescu: yeah, yeah. here's a simple test of your property :

mircea_popescu: try setting it on fire.

mircea_popescu: most people belabouring under the delusion they "own" a house aren't aware they only "own" it inasmuch as there's something to b e paid on it.

mircea_popescu: well obama is not in a better position.

mircea_popescu: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=81

mircea_popescu: ahahaha o may gawd i nearly fell over

mircea_popescu: i suppose we should have a bet as to when he goes the way of ciuciu, eskimobob and so many other great names

mircea_popescu: !t h neobee

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller they're disabled.

mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete because obviously the ones that do keep it as bitcoin would report that to mark cuban

mircea_popescu: it makes perfect sense huh.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the difference'd be that the difference between promise and mechanism is by no means a novel idea, just like the knowledge of communism = idiocy is ancient.

mircea_popescu: then again, i suppose the atomic view is also ancient, so... perhaps that's why we can't make time machines yet

mircea_popescu: we'd be fucking boring to those people.

mircea_popescu: it's all their spam filters keeping us out

mircea_popescu: and actually... i wish an ancient would come this way into time and bring me blueprints of his fucking spam filter

mircea_popescu: that way i could somehow filter out idiots who in 2014 create "momentuous historic events" that "revoilutionise bla bla" by poorly reimplementing 2011's mpex

mircea_popescu: then again i guess i already have that too, in the form of a philosophy degree

mircea_popescu: fuck me, the world is perfect

mircea_popescu: who knew.

mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete it's really just poorly repackaged buddhism

mircea_popescu: CheckDavid knotwork perhaps the only one.

mircea_popescu: it's an ancient thing, ot, i recall sponsoring it in like 2012

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: the evolution of the smiley is something incredible.

mircea_popescu: they were all :-) originally

mircea_popescu: then people dispensed with the nose, leading to the now common :)

mircea_popescu: yet the trend aren't stopping, now the eyes are gone too. it's just )))))

mircea_popescu: aren't smileys supposed to be derpy ?

mircea_popescu: ;~}

mircea_popescu: :¬|

mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete clearly

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves im pretty sure cable is dead as a going concern

mircea_popescu: they couldn't kill smoking, but cable failed to thrive in the interval

mircea_popescu: nah, it just survives cause coaxial internet

mircea_popescu: in most countries cable companies only sell their tv packages because they're bundled with the internet

mircea_popescu: otherwise people'd be... whatever.

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

mircea_popescu: ;;calc 5.7185 / 1450 / 639.1

mircea_popescu: ha! trilema the rift guild makes ~600 satoshi a day in taxes.

mircea_popescu: no wait i fucked it up

mircea_popescu: ;;calc 5.7185 / 1450 * 14.95 / 639.1

mircea_popescu: 9k satoshi

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves aren't those free ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the nom de guerre / plume of some particularly unhinged pick up artist guy

mircea_popescu: who may or may not be this fellow : http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/046/best_guy_ever.jpg

mircea_popescu: too feasible.

mircea_popescu: actually, you may get a kick out of reading his (obviously very valuable) instructions and teachings.

mircea_popescu: it was all about "projecting your sexuality" upon random unfortunate members of the general public

mircea_popescu: at like... the bus stop

mircea_popescu: and "make the ho say no"

mircea_popescu: then he shot some woman in the face.

mircea_popescu: anyway. half the rift guild is russian and ukrainian

mircea_popescu: we're having a ball these days :D

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nope. there's no gender in it.

mircea_popescu: people who speak languages with genders end up with fictitious gender partitions like witch/wizard because the teachers are lazy

mircea_popescu: but otherwise, there's no such allocation in english

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves because they can finally afford mass computers and net

mircea_popescu: in the 2000s it was a business expense for the girfrliendsa working the cams,

mircea_popescu: and by now on their sweat and toil it became generally available

mircea_popescu: dexX7 what do you mean new ? the guy's been working at it since before my time

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty much

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well maybe the traveller dude does,

mircea_popescu: on his better days

mircea_popescu: it still requires you to compile a client and run a server does it ?

mircea_popescu: ;;ud cumsock

mircea_popescu: apparently people use socks as cum rags ?

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller to do what ?

mircea_popescu: how is this different from you know, gpg as is ?

mircea_popescu: well yeah

mircea_popescu: "his"

mircea_popescu: haha

mircea_popescu: "some local computer shop owner yelled at me over the phone when I asked him to email me a price list, telling me that he would never waste his time on email because it took 20 times longer than a phone call"

mircea_popescu: this is the 80s, back when people using bitcoin i mean email were considered at the very least a little by the guys who generally know everything better

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: lmao @this guy

mircea_popescu: "o i know, brilliant idea : i will try and frontrun mp!11"

mircea_popescu: nobody ever thought of that b4 for sure!

mircea_popescu: i love all the pretense tho, "my personal and professional reputation" apparently is the new stock phrase of the chump.

mircea_popescu: nobody heard of him, nobody cares of him, he is thus therefore throwing the full weight of that pompous nothing into things!!!111

mircea_popescu: anyway. yeah the foundation is going down.

mircea_popescu: that aside, i very much doubt vessy is stepping down to the bitter end.

mircea_popescu: benkay :p

mircea_popescu: quoth mpoe-pr "haha forehead and bitcoininv have channeled their butthurt from me to each other

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333851.40

mircea_popescu: pretty lulzy shit

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507799.0 <also the most promising webwallet so far.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this one you might appreciate https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507493.0

mircea_popescu: as to the wisdom of not taking pre-orders and generally running a business like a business.

mircea_popescu: and the irony here is that the mp of that project is slush

mircea_popescu: who's otherwise quite respectable

mircea_popescu: :p

mircea_popescu: nah, slush is running a large pool, large miner, he's okay.

mircea_popescu: dude, if i could explain to you the why of people doing stupid shit...

mircea_popescu: why. cause they think they know better and don't feel the need to ask.

mircea_popescu: well, bitcoin is filled to the brim with unrealistic motherfuckers

mircea_popescu: people who think that by imagining something they're now the best to make it, people who think wanting really hard can substitute for being really able

mircea_popescu: and so it goes.

mircea_popescu: i am fully confident it's ignorance rather than some nefarious anything at work

mircea_popescu: slush is czech

mircea_popescu: Namworld dexX7 had it earlier :p

mircea_popescu: "The SEC does not actively monitor this thread, I have two friends that are attorneys for the Commission, and their interns have much better things to do than passive monitoring. "

mircea_popescu: the forum never ends.

mircea_popescu: dexX7 and to a number of people

mircea_popescu: and yes they do read the forum, tho they only understand about half

mircea_popescu: Namworld isn't it interesting how "since then" and "when mp said" coincide huh.

mircea_popescu: dexX7 hm ?

mircea_popescu: well that's not particularly clear yet.

mircea_popescu: trying to do their job, i guess.

mircea_popescu: now that's not possible.

mircea_popescu: Namworld never :D

mircea_popescu: let the record reflect that i'm working on a foot long baba ghanoush sub

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller i doubt there's much overlap in demographics.

mircea_popescu: peterl no.

mircea_popescu: see the earlier linked misadventure of dr foreskin on the topic

mircea_popescu: KRS-One in his position, leaking his pws is actulaly a rational, +ev move

mircea_popescu: peterl well it's a combination of things. he looks kind-of weird, and behaves like a negligible quantity

mircea_popescu: which in romanian is pielea pulii ie, foreskin

mircea_popescu: actually i think that works in russian too

mircea_popescu: that's the 3rd.

mircea_popescu: peterl guy is strange.

mircea_popescu: <Namworld> Mark will now say it's not him but the hackers who just released the info. He might be the thief and the releaser of info. << hence the "Rational, +EV move" comment earlier.

mircea_popescu: dexX7 lol we're the empire of evil nao ?

mircea_popescu: o look it's a moiety. how goes missy ?

mircea_popescu: anyway, if the guy's reading the logs that's not so bad, first step on the road to sanity.

mircea_popescu: before you know it he'll be going "i stake my professional reputation !!eleven behind making this thing i read on trilema two weeks ago happen!" like that other douche

mircea_popescu: after which hopefully he's cured

mircea_popescu: unless they manage to invent some further pathology down the way

mircea_popescu: im stuffed.

mircea_popescu: footlong baba ghanoush sub

mircea_popescu: "In retrospect, it's quite funny how some of the folks laughed at those selling ASICMiner to buy into BTC Growth, given that at the end of the day, those who adopted exactly that strategy wound up with roughly 275% as much money in their accounts than those who stuck with the former darling of the mining world."

mircea_popescu: this usagi bs ?!

mircea_popescu: asicminer went from 5 to .5, so therefore my deadbeat "investment" which went from 1 to .3 in the interval

mircea_popescu: would have assured "investors" "make roi and then some" or what was the expression

mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 he comes and goes.

mircea_popescu: no bitcoin ragequit lasts.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: i think he spends some time as a princess in a special happy place

mircea_popescu: of the sort uppity tortilla rest sin

mircea_popescu: dexX7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283947.msg3650952#msg3650952 how come i have not that log ?

mircea_popescu: can you link to log ?

mircea_popescu: and you know, if you quote a log include a date, a link, something.

mircea_popescu: a so im not actually in there/saying anything

mircea_popescu: that's what threw me, cause i had no recollection of the entire thing

mircea_popescu: oic

mircea_popescu: well, so did anyone actually bother to track this BTC-GROWTH marvel ?

mircea_popescu: a actually btct, should be in the logs

mircea_popescu: Apr 13 11:00:40 <`MBot>[ GLBSE ] [ TRADE ] [ TYGRR-BOT ] [ 2 x 0.99999 = 1.999980 BTC ]

mircea_popescu: Apr 13 11:01:55 <`MBot>[ GLBSE ] [ TRADE ] [ TYGRR-BOT ] [ 98 x 1.0 = 98.000000 BTC ]

mircea_popescu: dude, old logs!

mircea_popescu: (that's apr 13 2012, ftr)

mircea_popescu: peterl he claims he got 2k btc on btct

mircea_popescu: so what was the ticker, anyoe know that ?

mircea_popescu: aha

mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/1707934/

mircea_popescu: that's the first hour.

mircea_popescu: there's no 2k there, more like 2-300 btc

mircea_popescu: the zinger being, of course, "Aug 15 15:49:39 <parseval>This guy is charging 2% of assets annually plus 20% of profits for management fees"

mircea_popescu: that's some fund o.O

mircea_popescu: lolk

mircea_popescu: normally i'd say "i wish to meet that elated 1% of bitcoin financiers which actually make 2% a year", but i think i already have.

mircea_popescu: anyway, parity didn't hold up long :

mircea_popescu: Aug 15 18:44:58 <assbot>[BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 2 @ 0.09801 = 0.196 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: Aug 15 18:44:59 <assbot>[BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 96 @ 0.098 = 9.408 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: Sep 21 01:55:33 <assbot>[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 2 @ 0.09612 = 0.1922 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: Sep 21 03:21:59 <assbot>[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 50 @ 0.09594299 = 4.7971 BTC [-] {5}

mircea_popescu: Oct 06 15:25:37 <assbot>[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 10 @ 0.08 = 0.8 BTC [-]

mircea_popescu: Oct 08 18:07:10 <assbot>[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 7 @ 0.083 = 0.581 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: Oct 08 18:08:11 <assbot>[BTCTC] [FN] [BTC-GROWTH] 14 @ 0.083 = 1.162 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: and with that the story ends.

mircea_popescu: -17% on assets, -22% on fees, half your money back in half a year.

mircea_popescu: you still in the hole with giga/amazingrando huh

mircea_popescu: well gl.

mircea_popescu: no because that's like scientology.

mircea_popescu: Jan 12 23:14:43 <assbot>[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3293 @ 0.0006592 = 2.1707 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: ;;calc ( 0.00087052- 0.0006592)/ 0.0006592

mircea_popescu: o hey, 32%.

mircea_popescu: peterl well technically, it's at least > 9000x zero

mircea_popescu: Namworld it also doesn't count dividends.

mircea_popescu: ya

mircea_popescu: moiety http://24.media.tumblr.com/1a88c2b550b2750929342bef44551e7a/tumblr_myaf6dYk1f1rq17hmo1_1280.jpg

mircea_popescu: lies!

mircea_popescu: hehe good points

mircea_popescu: http://24.media.tumblr.com/b21c1fbb69b3b3e6bd39c59f4279e106/tumblr_mz1p5m1UDV1rwxb4zo1_250.gif definitely beats sandra.

mircea_popescu: hey n