dexX7: why do you think this was smart?
skinnkavaj: So he would not get into trouble and can still operate SD
skinnkavaj: I believe we will see more fake sells since it's the best option to clear your name, while still holding on to that money making machine
skinnkavaj: Which is your baby, as an entreprenour
skinnkavaj: mircea_popescu: Because of legal problems obviously
gribble: Time since last block: 7 minutes and 27 seconds
skinnkavaj: mircea_popescu: So you think SD is a legal service?
benkay: legal where, skinnkavaj ?
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as a "legal service". there's illegal stuff, and then there's the rest.
mircea_popescu: you don't even know how many countries there are, in the world.
skinnkavaj: mircea_popescu: Is this your strategy in the future?
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mircea_popescu: yes, my strategy in the future is to continue to point out obvious nonsense coming my way.
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe it somehow ends up cutting down on the general nonsense
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16349 @ 0.00094303 = 15.4176 BTC [-]
skinnkavaj: mircea_popescu: We live in a corrupt world you should know that
skinnkavaj: SD is not legal and neither is MPOE, but I love the fact that you are not agreeing with me on that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00094107 = 17.2216 BTC [-] {3}
CheckDavid: I heard mpoe was the most legal of exchanges
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 1750 @ 0.0005 = 0.875 BTC [-]
skinnkavaj: TestingUnoDosTre: Leave him alone now I think he understood my point and I like his intentions
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 85 @ 0.06926507 = 5.8875 BTC [-] {13}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00093954 = 7.7512 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: the most legal illegal exchange run by an asshole with good intentions
mircea_popescu: someone write the book so 50cent can make a song about the movie based on it
dexX7: let's ipo the idea
benkay: o lookit that spotify lets you sign up with email again
benkay: guess zuck won that one in the short term and lost it in the long term
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mircea_popescu: skinnkavaj learning to read spoiled me for audiobooks.
mircea_popescu: "Go search deep for code (for sale) for online gambling sites.
mircea_popescu: The most expensive code packages for gambling sites have the most deceit and advanced algorithms to rip-off the gambling fool and protect the investment of the operator. The very best ones you'll never find for sale, however. These algorithms always sit on top of whatever "edge" the operator decides to take (the "edge" is the part of the tilted table some sites even openly advertise nowadays).
mircea_popescu: there's nothing better than a good conspiraci theorist.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin invented fair gambling, bitbet is a parimutuel implementation, anon forum derp comes to harp about how deceitful "sites" are.
mircea_popescu: i imagine these people followed hercules around augeas' stables complaining about all the mess he's making.
ThickAsThieves: "Edmund Moy, the former director of the U.S. Mint who’s become an outspoken proponent of digital currencies, saw a mix of good and bad as well, but ultimately he made two cogent points: first, that this is is a rule, not a law, and there’s a difference, and, two, that it can be changed as circumstances warrant."
ThickAsThieves: what is the exact difference between an IRS rule and a law?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that i get to laugh at you poor sods moar ?
mircea_popescu: a rule you can have overturned by arguing more things before the supreme court than if it were a law.
mircea_popescu: because congress does have legislative discretion, but agencies do not.
mircea_popescu: we're talking a decade and a hundred million in either case.
ThickAsThieves: so you must break the rule to even attempt to learn it's definition?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00093954 = 8.268 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: is there some argument to what is allowed to be taxed at all, and bitcoin not fitting that spectrum?
ThickAsThieves: like isnt there an underlying premise for taxes being that, for example you cant profit from a shipping company without roads, and taxes pay for roads, therefor you must pay them
ThickAsThieves: the USG neither provides for, nor maintains, nor creates bitocin
mircea_popescu: that bullcrap is entirely irrelevant to the discussion.
mircea_popescu: it's roughly the coating in the pill, various people sprout it because you know, the slavegirl that aesthetically loves her collar isn't really as much of a slavegirl or something.
ThickAsThieves: do you have an argument against the IRS rulings or you think they are sensible?
mircea_popescu: the irs can tax anything the fuck it pleases. the reaction to taxation you dislike is leaving the jurisdiction, not arguing the point.
mike_c: even then you can't escape. you have to give up citizenship.
mircea_popescu: (course iirc, you're not allowed to do so unless you prove it's specifically NOT because you dislike the taxation system. quite the racked your owner got going there.)
mircea_popescu: you can't imagine, on a more personal note, how fucking outlandish this is to me.
mircea_popescu: if someone told me twenty years ago i will live to honestly pity the fate of the poor us citizens i'd have laughed for the rest of the day.
mircea_popescu: and i'm not even fucking old! i'm sitting here and im thinking... holy shit now THAT must suck. what a curse to be born with.
mike_c: could be worse. china is worse.
mike_c: foxconn has more suicides than jpmorgan.
Duffer1: the breathable parts of china sound nice
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0564 = 0.1692 BTC [+]
dexX7: foxconn has about 1000x more worker than jpmorgan
benkay: girl is out of town for the weekend. this means.....
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benkay: mostly because i've forgotten how to cook since this one started doing it for me
Mats_cd03: i saw a few dozen dead pigs floating down a river as i was driving out of the province
nubbins`: i made homemade pasta sauce and meatballs last night
nubbins`: yes, the company was amazing too
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mircea_popescu: kakobrekla could assy perhaps only say amazing once an hour or something ?
benkay: mircea_popescu: i know how to cook!
mircea_popescu: benkay you don't and i can tell just by looking at that poor excuse of a plate.
benkay: i hand fried those potatoes
Mats_cd03: anyway like i was saying, i think some farmer had bought bad feed for his pigs and accidentally poisoned them
mircea_popescu: i have a lot more experience with noob cook chicks than you imagine my friend.
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu isnt it easier to just limit nubbins` ?
benkay: what's wrong with my plate?!
Mats_cd03: and whos going to dig a proper hole for all of those bodies? thats fucking laborious
Mats_cd03: so he put them on the back of a pickup and then dropped them off somewhere upstream
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 either that or there was a pig geyser sprout on the river bed.
benkay: bah you and your aesthetics
benkay: arrangement of nutritive items that
mircea_popescu: tis a matter of i can tell if the carpenter is a noob by whether his "chair" is fucking level.
nubbins`: Mats_cd03 yes, the meatballs were homemade
Mats_cd03: id eat your homemade meatballs, nubbins`
nubbins`: kakobrekla you can't hold me down!
mircea_popescu: i always thought nubbins are the little bumps around the nipple on an aroused areola.
mike_c: benkay: eggs are overcooked. that yolk's gotta run.
benkay: ya well, the plate was in the oven keeping the bacon warm
benkay: i did fuck the yolks up.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0444 = 0.1332 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06887978 = 0.3444 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: alright fine you got me
Mats_cd03: its impressive you havent accidentally poisoned yourself yet
mike_c: Mats_cd03: he hasn't eaten it yet :)
mircea_popescu: benkay gf comes home from her trip, finds dead pigglet, hauls him to pickup truck
benkay: sad truth is i'm fishing for a second housekeeper cum cock sucker
benkay: i guess the assettes don't deliver?
benkay: mo i'm going to poison myself
benkay: i don't know the difference between brotein and carboderprates
moiety: i entirely passed out earlier D:
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah but that's ability to perform the job, you know ?
benkay: no toasters are convenience tools of the devil
benkay: also i live in murka and have to compromise on counterspace
mircea_popescu: benkay "halp halp i need to cook" moiety, always motherly, starts small. "toaster ?"
benkay: this isn't funny mircea_popescu i'm going to die
moiety: prexactly - convenience. i think toasters are good because they have a timer, you cant burn the house down. please buy one
benkay: yeah normally i'm into snuff too but today it's meeeee
mircea_popescu: so wait! benkay was shooting for two girls but in the end his one had enough and now he's... mancooking ?
benkay: I'M MANSPLAINING THE KITCHEN TO MYSELF
moiety: wait, you mean properly left? not just away for the weekend?
benkay: no its just for the weekend
tg2: Shiiit, ltcponzi 500 ltc in 40 minutes :/
benkay: MOTHERLY INSTINCTS ENGAGE
moiety: oh i was gonna say you need to get a microwave too
tg2: Gotta start going this lol
benkay: Mats_cd03: that has sugar in it
benkay: i will be if i cook myself goddamn pralines all the time
benkay: does one cook or bake pralines?
Mats_cd03: it was mostly the website and not the link, but i do love me some pralines
Mats_cd03: youll live longer if you eat baked goods
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and of course it is, as always, based on the commerce clause.
benkay: eh, forever's overrated
mircea_popescu: one almost dares hope that a wholesale repeal of commerce clause jurisprudence may fix teh us
benkay: mircea_popescu: never going to happen.
benkay: there are hard things in the kitchen for sure
moiety: qwebirc471694: excellent fact
mircea_popescu: benkay gimme the heavenly forge for a week, it'll happen.
mircea_popescu: hm, am i the only one that knows what the heavenly forge is ?
moiety: benkay, this is worse than i thought. just phone a pizza for now
Mats_cd03: i looked it up on google and the second link was 'fanfiction.net'
benkay: mircea_popescu: what are you on about
Mats_cd03: so the heavenly forge is definitely fan fiction right?
moiety: kakobrekla: you are a man too huh
benkay: can i get a pizza with bacon on it?
moiety: benkay from dominos, yep
benkay: i don't need all the bacon sheesh that'd be greedy now
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moiety nods at kakobrekla - just a wee bit
cazalla: should i register a gpg key in addition to bitcoin address for wot or is a bitcoin address enough?
moiety: men: toasters, youredoinitwrong
benkay: ah yes squirtable bacon
benkay: "come here baby let me squirt some bacon on you. mircea popescu said bitches love bacon."
moiety: cazalla: more other way around, key>address
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cazalla: moiety: thanks, time to learn this gpg stuff i guess
moiety: cazalla: use BingoBoingo's guide. best way, one sec
benkay: cazalla you don't need to put bitcoin address into wot
benkay: in fact, might not be a great idea
benkay: addrs and identities are two separate extremes on the spectrum
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00094071 = 8.4194 BTC [+]
benkay: gpg for comms, btc for $$$
benkay: ;;google drinking record gpg
ozbot: PGP/GPG Guide | Bingo Blog
moiety: got distracted saving tabs... ironically to speed up browser
moiety: couldn't you have a couple of people using an address though?
moiety: if i just missed something glaringly obvious, forgive me, i did just wake up. I've shared an address before, is all
moiety: benkay the badge is right there! citroen
moiety: and for the site. me + dev had access
mircea_popescu: and wd on the citroen! it may be a trabamborghini, but it's the french trabamborghini.
moiety: thats fair enough, i was just at that point having everything done for me
moiety: citroens arent very good though
moiety: also, citroen>renault if we are keeping to french
moiety: everything over vauxhall (unless its a ford)
benkay: moiety: you might be the first person with a good reason to implement m of n signing
moiety: i don't personally doge, well i mined 41 to learn the process. such wealth.
benkay: are there any alts which one can mine with a cpu and at least get a few?
benkay: dage i gather, but does that still hold true?
moiety: plenty, in the beginning at least, all the galters are cpu poolers too
benkay: maybe the infinitely inflating currencies live on in the processors of cpus and gpus
benkay: as their value decreases, so does hashpower from professionals applied against them.
moiety: are scrypt asics a thing yet?
PObro: kncMiner has some scrypt miners for Q2/Q3 this year.
tg2: Gridseeds are out already
tg2: knc is gonna kill it though
cads: moiety: at least one company I've seen are claiming to be shipping a scrypt asic
benkay: have a good evening, everyone!
tg2: I hope scrypt responds poorly to Asic difficulty hike
cads: though I thought the memory requirements of scrypt is what made it inefficient to try to solve with an asic.
tg2: still 50x more than gpu lol
tg2: Vs 1000x more with sha256 asics
moiety: cads: great, a bfl v2?!
tg2: vertcoin is the only hope for no-asic and I'm sure it will happen
tg2: Their implementation is dumb
moiety: Big Fucking Liars aka Butterfly Labs
cads: has no researcher investigated mixed hash approaches?
tg2: Cads, look into x11 cpins
tg2: Coins* namely darkcoin
jborkl: Wtf is going on in here
tg2: Cause botters dos exchanges to make $
cads: lol, x11's site begins "With professional Scrypt mining hardware on the way it is time to look for the best alternative hashing solution that will keep crypto currency within reach of everyone."
cads: asciilifeform: nice
cads: I hadn't thought that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00093923 = 18.5968 BTC [-] {2}
tg2: Even gpu is swarm friendly
tg2: 35% of systems have discrete gpu
cads: because kids/manchildren with hefty gaming gpus
mircea_popescu: actually, as a purely academic point, does anyone know a hash that is genuinely cpu-favourable ?
cads: asciilifeform: I would use haskell
moiety: americans: do you have a gov site dedicated to people records?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform basically, a huge lot of control instructions somehow
cads: god it would be so great to find out these guys actually use next generation compiler tech to specialize their viruses to the hardware :)
cads hates not knowing what's going on in the criminal sector of computer science
mircea_popescu: then again, at least for life there are purely math algos
cads: asciilifeform: is hashlife hard or surprisingly easy to understand?
cads: looking up "hash life" on youtube got me to a video by "Swag Sensei"
cads: oh it's just smart memoization
cads: nothing like stochastic/predictive?
samO_: haven't had internet conn. for almost two days! nearly lost my mind... :D what happend in the mean time, anything significant?
tg2: I have a useful distributed work coin project on the burner
VanCleef: shit dont even work properly anymore
tg2: gonna be better than wasting hashes on nothing
samO_: also, is there a chat log history of this channel somewhere? thx!
tg2: Just Google your username
tg2: Niggas need some help
tg2: Not even a heavy site to lift
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell benkay "One cannot issue ratings until one is rated oneself. This is a useful feature that prevents a lot of misuse of the system. If scammers cannot stuff the WoT database with their sockpuppets, they cannot artificially inflate their ratings. Granted, the mechanism is weak and easily gamed, but the simple presence of a barrier reduces much malfeasance." this made no sense. you know it made no sense. why
mircea_popescu: you can have difficulty scale as... the size of the field.
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: the mining difficulty parameter is not some arbitrary zerofill
mircea_popescu: in fact you can allow life on a 1 wide grid couldn't you
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cazalla: moiety: that gpg guide is good, this was much easier than i thought it would be
moiety: cazalla: yeah definately, i got the live version :D he is a very good sensei
MisterE: asciilifeform: did you read tg2's analysis of sha-356 asics vs scrypt asics on bitcointalk?
MisterE: it's realy good and concise
MisterE: yea from what I can tell its mostly trash
stompysteve: anyone got any info on neo and whats going on past they stopped trading due to sus activity
MisterE: asciilifeform: probably not for you it's about the state of and medium-term future of hardware and mfgr. proceses
tg2: Yeah knc updated their numbers, I should update the post
mircea_popescu: tg2 you realise people wouldn't build the ram as part of the asic do you ?
tg2: They went for the "less ram faster latency" approach
tg2: I stand by my analysis though that it won't be near as prolific as sha256
mircea_popescu: nearly as prolific as bitcoin miners they will never be
tg2: Although knc sure is trying to prove me wrong lol
MisterE: and won't depreciate so quickly like sha-256 2nd gen
mircea_popescu: the reason, of course, is that bitcoin is worth three to four degrees of magnitude more.
MisterE: I heard knc was not reliable and they have had a lot of delivery misses int he past?
tg2: They are probably one of the best right now
MisterE: they also mine so there is a conflict of interest iirc?
MisterE: oh, perhaps I'm confused with another 3 letter mfgr?
tg2: They assemble them out of house
tg2: at a workshop 5 minutes from my office
tg2: Yeah I think that's a way to look at it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how about the people who "invest" despite negative roi ?
tg2: Don't forget gpu's hold some value
tg2: shit even shoddy first gen sha fpga's are still being sold lol
MisterE: and generate transactions that help keep the network healthy
MisterE: BTC still has a gold rush mentality that personally I dont think is doing speculators any favors
MisterE: smart ones supply the miners and speculators
gribble: Error: "d" is not a valid command.
ozbot: 5.007 billion | Next Diff in 1326 blocks | Estimated Change: 15.9722% in 7d 17h 34m 28s
MisterE: asciilifeform: the mining centers I've read abotu who are doing it right have paid back their investments within months
MisterE: there was just the article in Ars abotu the guy who controls ~10% of hash rate
MisterE: but medium - small guys are throwing money away?
mircea_popescu: "large concerns" that thought they had access to the latest widgets expected to come out... november 2012 are mostly bankrupt today
MisterE: yea tg2 does a good job explaining that depreciation, expecially of 2nd gen sha-256 asics
tg2: Yeah I pitty anybody who dropped btc on a bfl product
mircea_popescu: MisterE it's a theory. it's not outrageously or massively wrong, but im not too persuaded.
ozbot: Meet the manic miner who wants to mint 10% of all new bitcoins | Ars Technica
tg2: Even the "next gen" 600gh is garbage
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not even. more builders went out of business than stayed in.
MisterE: yea BFL really scammed a lot
MisterE: my buddy ordered a 10mh box and was shopped a 7mh box
mircea_popescu: ahh, remember the days when am was derping about "having 30% of all hashing for a year"
tg2: I honestly think they started out with the goal of scamming and then btc blew up so fast lol
mircea_popescu: unless they're taking a microscope to the box, who's to say what's in there ?
MisterE: well performance doesn't lie heh
MisterE: plus I thing it was stamped on the box
tg2: I hope this Canadian class action against gox bears some fruit
MisterE: BFL could not deliver the product my buddy ordered and instead of refunding sent a lesser spec
tg2: I'm glad they decided to do it, they were on the fence about it for a few days
MisterE: I heard they were being sued the first time a couple months ago but that also people were lining up to file
tg2: Ain't nobody spending 2k for 1 btc lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00094137 = 11.2964 BTC [+] {2}
MisterE: I made a big buy (for me) at 500 yesterday
tg2: I have 250k of gpus running
MisterE: it goes out in pieces to the electric company
tg2: And most of it was bought with btc mined from a single 5970 lol
MisterE: so if they can amortize it spending 2k on a BTC is acceptable I guess.
MisterE: heh yea think of that scale jump
tg2: My thoughts are, my power costs me .05c
MisterE: or nukes in the back yard?
MisterE: in US you get cheap power if you live nearish a nuke plant
MisterE: yea I see a lot of support at 500 TestingUnoDosTre
tg2: plus cheap cooling most of the year
MisterE: all the bad BTC news lately hasn't budged it at all
TestingUnoDosTre: I see a lot of don't really care how things pan out over the next 2-3 months
MisterE: tg2: the successful miners of the future will have to monetize that heat
tg2: People in cali and uk already losing money
tg2: Umm already doing something with my 600,000 btu lol
tg2: Have grass growing outside in the middle of February
MisterE: I mean hell you can just well insulate and heat your house if you live in a colder place
tg2: It's to much heat for a house
MisterE: in 20 years you;ll have to run an a/c for your February lawn heh
tg2: With darkcoin about 110kw
MisterE: I'm thining of the centralized boilers in NYC that heat several blocks
MisterE: as scale of rigs increase a colo facility that makes use of that heat in a similar way would be interesting
tg2: I tried to make a deal with a golf dome to heat it for free over the winter
MisterE needs to learn about darkcoin
MisterE: thats the kind of thinking out of the box I'm talking about!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00094266 = 15.6482 BTC [+] {3}
ozbot: Auroracoin - Forked and Game Over
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2537 @ 0.00011999 = 0.3044 BTC [+] {2}
Apocalyptic: VanCleef, interested by some island land ?
kanzure: hah it's already forked. that's fun.
kanzure: man i've had so many people asking me about it. they all think it's the government.
nicknode_: VanCleef: would you let me in on the true inside story on neobee? i'll pay
VanCleef: my lawyer has asked me to not talk about it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00093835 = 8.3982 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00093834 = 4.3633 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00094136 = 12.7084 BTC [+] {2}
samO_: thx mircea_popesku for the link (yeah, i've been blind) :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5061 @ 0.00094173 = 4.7661 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2861 @ 0.00094345 = 2.6992 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00093961 = 8.4095 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06888 = 0.6888 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59484287 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.05564701 = 1.1129 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20741 @ 0.00094128 = 19.5231 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00094197 = 12.8579 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00094197 = 8.2893 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00094197 = 10.4559 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8431 @ 0.00094007 = 7.9257 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1312 @ 0.00094197 = 1.2359 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.00094197 = 0.9891 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00094252 = 14.1849 BTC [+] {2}
joeshanny: peek da whole scene and whatever's goin on around, brain kinda cloudy, smoked out, feelin rowdy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56000001 = 1.12 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.56 = 1.12 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.559 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.559 = 1.118 BTC [-]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.522 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.06888989 = 0.2756 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.522 BTC [-]
ozbot: The psychology of the bagholder pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell benkay asciilifeform you've been mentioned ^
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.522 = 4.176 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00094401 = 11.2337 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0553188 = 0.2766 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00093976 = 7.847 BTC [-] {2}
artifexd: mircea_popescu You make me sad. I wanted to believe in NeoBee.
mircea_popescu: yeah generally a pragmatic approach works better. there are more things we want to believe in than can be done.
psterryl: so people are saying neobee is a scam now?
bounce: but, I like that poster!
psterryl: since there's been no official statement
psterryl: until someone points to some legit evidence or a statement from LMB/neo/danny
psterryl: my reasoning is evidence based
mircea_popescu: <VanCleef> yeah its official <psterryl> until someone points to some legit evidence or a statement from LMB/neo/danny
psterryl: it's impossible to call it one way or the other
mircea_popescu: it's been covered to death why " it's impossible to call it one way or the other" doesn't work and doesn't hold, over the years
psterryl: i'm just talking from my own personal viewpoint
psterryl: everyone is entitled to their own opinions/deductions
psterryl: i like to be shown conclusive proof
psterryl: rather than get caught up in internet chinese whispers
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mircea_popescu: no, everyone is not entitled to their own personal viewpoint.
mircea_popescu: the path is 1) you prove you're able to think ; 2) you're entitled to your own viewpoint.
psterryl: so everyone is entitled to the mircea approved viewpoint?
psterryl: well, my 1st class university degree should suggest i'm ok for #1
mircea_popescu: but there is such a thing as an examen de maturite which keeps the children away from human society.
psterryl: but you're just some random guy on the internet
mircea_popescu: you may not suggest that. i have to suggest it, when you're talking to me,
bounce: eh, opinions are like assholes. everyone's got one. whether they matter is something else entirely.
psterryl: so it's not like i have to prove anything to you
mircea_popescu: and generally everyone else, when you're talking to them.
psterryl: as of this moment, i'm officially talking to everyone in this channel apart from you
cbr: *clap clap clap clap*
ThickAsThieves: statistically, ignoring mp is ignoring like half its content
punkman1: psterryl: congratulations, you've removed all doubt
psterryl: yeah im new on here so still working out who is insightful and who's just a dick
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets stats
psterryl: at first i thought mp was the former but starting to think latter
chetty: here the dick is the insightful
artifexd: Those qualities are not mutually exclusive.
psterryl: i think that says a lot about the bitcoin community
mircea_popescu: VanCleef i thought the freudian/jungian approach was poo = moneys.
VanCleef: i had to check my pants before when i woke up
☟︎ psterryl: true but when someone makes a blanket statement that not everyone is entitled to their own opinion
psterryl: it suddenly becomes much harder to take them seriously
psterryl: even idiots are entited to an opinion
psterryl: it might be subjectively wrong in my eyes
psterryl: but doesnt mean they're not entiteld to it
ThickAsThieves: you never felt like some people's opinion's dont deserve the weight they carry
psterryl: but they're still entitled to that opinion
psterryl: despite my personal views of it
ThickAsThieves: or like the people that are most likely to say "everyone is entitled to their own opinion" are the least likely to have opinions worth considering?
psterryl: and you're totally entitled to it
VanCleef: anyone have a youtube vid of a robot that's better than asimo?
psterryl: but saying that someone has to prove their intelligence before they're allowed an opinion
psterryl: seems like a fairly entitled stance
psterryl: so maybe it's a self-loathing issue
ThickAsThieves: if you think mp is self-loathing, you have not read much from him
VanCleef: stocks are like women....once they lose their value you dump them
ThickAsThieves: VanCleef, in that example, isnt better to dump them before they lose value?
VanCleef: yes but like with women investors get emotionally involved and dont know when to let go
VanCleef: this is the problem psterryl is having with neobee atm
pankkake: I thought the limit for women was clear, dump when the age doesn't end in teen
psterryl: and sometimes people bring a relationship back from the rocks and go on to have long and fulfilling times together
mircea_popescu: why not just dump them when they get annoying, age-irrespective ?
☟︎ pankkake: wait there are non-annoying women?!
mircea_popescu: see, if you dump them when they get 20 you're stuck with a bunch of annoying teens
mircea_popescu: if you dump them when they get annoying you're stuck with a bunch of pleasant women.
chetty: hey there are a lot of non-annoying women
ThickAsThieves: maybe you need to write a how to pick up chicks worth picking up blog
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that's simple, "have your girls recommend"
mircea_popescu: well slaves if you keep slaves, girlfriends, w/e you got
mircea_popescu: lol mom. not mom, it works better if you've been intimate. what's urmom know.
VanCleef: "how to pick up chicks by not talking about bitcoin"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00094435 = 6.4688 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: "I'm sorry baby, it's just not working out. Got any referrals?"
ThickAsThieves: so far it seems you want a man to ask his not-annoying gf for recommendations
chetty: where is your sense of adventure?
ThickAsThieves: so we need to rewind to where you suggest a man generally keep multiple gfs
[KS]: Hi all - you guys are golden. Asssets/scams/2c psychology/women advice etc :) (back to lurking)
ThickAsThieves: anytime i've attempted as much it felt more like being a triple agent than anything
mircea_popescu: this "lifetime monogamy" thing is a very narrow edge case of human sexual and intimate practice.
ThickAsThieves: the more they know about each other the more crazy they behave
mircea_popescu: btw, quick question : einstein had a) no girlfriend ; b) one girlfriend c) two girlfriends or d) thirteen girlfriends.
ThickAsThieves: "Albert Einstein had half a dozen girlfriends and told his wife they showered him with "unwanted" affection, according to letters released "
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla no, but reports show he occasionally ate the neighbour's bitch.
mircea_popescu: now to fully establish the other extreme, since nobody seems inclined, we return to scriptae :
mircea_popescu: It's unfair to quote a 5 year old article but if Alone still believes _that_ analysis has validity...he's missed the forest of leeching for the victimized and disinterested trees. Many women invest their entire lives in what amounts to brazen fraud conducted and perfected to "catch" a guy who is then trapped with no idea how cruelly he's been setup.
mircea_popescu: Guys lose interest. And women, who hated sex remember (they're not that type of girl), suddenly give the con away. It boils down to this; what are they bringing to the party?
mircea_popescu: Emotional poison, lies, some shitty repetitive sex (I'll be more romantic when those who believe in the lie that is exclusivity eat the same meal for the rest of their lives), surrogate services, shitty cooking...It doesn't matter that I'm grossly making crude generalizations. I'm right.
mircea_popescu: And the market agrees with me. Alone missed it. Porn is a better product. If girls want to compete maybe they should get real? Virtual honesty v Virtual Deceit? This is economics. No need for hysterics or water works or expressed feelings. Awwh.
ozbot: The Last Psychiatrist: The Second Story Of Echo And Narcissus
mircea_popescu: i'll give this much credit to the entire progressive movement : while in the 50s there in fact existed schools and other torture implements dedicated to reforming otherwise decent, healthy and loving human beings into the sort of very sad victims of abuse described there,
mircea_popescu: so rare that extant examples are almost fascinating for reason of that rarity.
ThickAsThieves: i imagine dating in your 30s in 40s these days is pretty much all online websites now?
chetty: huh? Looks like more of those schools out there, just different rules
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves betas shower the websites, alphas let the girls suggest girls for the club.
mircea_popescu: and in completely different yet very related news, "The problem, as the president explained it, is that Putin doesn’t understand how the world is supposed to work"
mircea_popescu: inching along towards the "putin doesn't give a shit about the way i think the world should work"
chetty: wiht 'leaders' like that no wonder world is such a mess
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mircea_popescu: and now i shall proceed to read the log, so allow me to spam you all even more!
ThickAsThieves: one thing that isnt so bad about US public communication, is if youve any hint of doubt, you can mostly assume they are saying the opposite of what's true
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 195 @ 0.06032577 = 11.7635 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0436 = 0.1744 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: you don't have to pay anything, unless you're reading a lot of trilema. then it's like i don't recall, .1 cents ?
mircea_popescu: my own thinking is that if we keep a reasonable floor under it it'll never be productive
mircea_popescu: in general the best way to reduce irrational behaviour is to control volatility.
mircea_popescu: kinda the original thinking behind central banks at any rate
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yes, but why would they ? not worth it.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves indeed. this baby will do a bunch if firsts.
mircea_popescu: first altcoin not premined, first altcoin not allowed to bubble, etc.
ThickAsThieves: time for the Altcoin Central Bank to make a trading bot
kakobrekla: you cant sell enough if the things wants to bubble
mircea_popescu: economy may be a social science, but finance is totally an art.
mircea_popescu: math is only the bus ticket taking you to the concert.
mircea_popescu: it's gotten to where i can no longer discern parody from reality.
ThickAsThieves: "The main idea here is called “hedging”, and is best explained in the context of Bitcoin"
kakobrekla: A court in Fort Worth, Texas, has granted a temporary restraining order to freeze the bitcoin wallets of ASIC mining hardware manufacturer HashFast Technologies LLC and HashFast LLC, after a customer claimed it failed to deliver hardware on time or negotiate a refund.
ThickAsThieves: “It speaks to the legitimacy of cryptocurrencies and a growing understanding of their value and importance to businesses.”
mircea_popescu: The complaint, which has a Background section with the question “What the heck is a Bitcoin?” also contains an attachment of 30 pages of bitcointalk forum discussion detailing the history of the story from July-August 2013.
mircea_popescu: ok, i guess it's announcement time : mpex will not be honoring the forth worth court order, or any similar instrument drawn by any court.
kakobrekla: why so quick to jump the gun on this while bfl can shit in peoples mouth for years now
mircea_popescu: any bitcoins received as specified by mpex will be fully credited to the depositor in any and all circumstances.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 830 @ 0.00084575 = 0.702 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: courts need to learn the limits of their jurisdiction, preferably.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 170 @ 0.00084036 = 0.1429 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: "At the time of the order, on 1st October 2013, 1 BTC was worth around $126."
ThickAsThieves: would it be fair to stop assigning a USD value in cases of stolen coins?
mircea_popescu: anyway, im off to scream at people who are entitled to their own opinions (over my dead body). bbl.
kakobrekla: i guess this guy did even worse than me
ThickAsThieves: "The engineering batch of packaged chips will be out in March 28th. After that we can immediately start testing on functionality and power consumption."
ozbot: Bill Murray Stops Bank Robbery In Tokyo, Accidentally - National Report | National Report
Mats_cd03: “We love Bill Murray very much in our country, he is very funny man”
VanCleef: should have been a scene in lost in translation
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1319 @ 0.00094458 = 1.2459 BTC [+]
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moiety: hows everyone's weekend going?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59376997 = 1.1875 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59484288 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59495089 BTC [+]
jurov: moiety, i'm at bitcoin hackathon... but dunno if such activity suits me
moiety: jurov: not having fun? is there a fair bit of folk there?
bounce: .oO( lots of the fair folk )
moiety: lol // or is this the online thing?
jurov: no, offline in hackerspace here
jurov: but my hard of hearing ears are failing me again, i need one or few people talk directly to me, not scattered talking across the room
jurov: did sth happen besides neobee?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59495089 BTC [+]
VanCleef: i could punch by monitor go out and buy a new one and it would still be loading
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59495089 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.52610001 = 1.0522 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.52610001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.52610001 = 1.0522 BTC [-]
moiety: oh i found it jurov, just hit the bar... it accepts btc lol
moiety: i don't recommend it VanCleef lol using a plug in monitor is such a pain
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.52610001 = 1.0522 BTC [-]
moiety: why is it so slow VanCleef?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.52610001 = 5.261 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.52610001 = 3.6827 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.59523285 = 4.7619 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.44023839 BTC to 4`859 shares, 50221 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60720341 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.54 = 1.62 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6074 = 1.2148 BTC [+]
ozbot: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
artifexd: Friedcat says the chips work. Price goes down. /confused
ozbot: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It
VanCleef: what i think happened artifexd is that the page is choking up so much and people are in a panic to buy that they accidently confusing buy with sell instead
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00093949 = 3.1943 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.609 BTC [+]
dexX7: hey nubbins`, do you still have the "friedcat for president" picture somewhere? :)
nubbins`: the one with granny blades, ya mean?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.611 BTC [+]
nubbins`: that was the inspiration for the shirts i did :D
dexX7: must be almost a year ago now
VanCleef chants "4 more years, 4 more years."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00597555 = 0.1076 BTC [+] {4}
pankkake: my friedcat shirt is already damaged
dexX7: well anyway. is havelock going up in flames or was the issue yesterday related to neo?
nubbins`: pankkake that's what happens if you wear it every day ;(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00609199 = 0.1401 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00185115 / 0.00207973 / 0.00242900 (6781 shares, 14.10264829 BTC), 7D: 0.00155000 / 0.00245529 / 0.00328800 (115967 shares, 284.73313362 BTC), 30D: 0.00155000 / 0.00357882 / 0.00567777 (513634 shares, 1838.20473331 BTC)
dexX7: trading was frozen
dexX7: or still is, not sure
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61599 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.61592499 = 2.4637 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0449 = 0.1796 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.61825499 = 6.1825 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.006099 = 0.122 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.00739898 = 0.7399 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 62 @ 0.00609964 = 0.3782 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.62634867 = 12.527 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00094208 = 5.3228 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 180 @ 0.00609998 = 1.098 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06948434 = 0.6948 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 163 @ 0.00609999 = 0.9943 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00609999 = 0.3111 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00609999 = 0.61 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.056425 = 0.1129 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.00609999 = 0.2867 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 76 @ 0.0061 = 0.4636 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.62688333 = 1.8806 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19192 @ 0.00094393 = 18.1159 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.62835386 = 8.1686 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.62893889 = 1.2579 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.045 = 0.135 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.63809121 = 19.1427 BTC [+] {7}
mircea_popescu: i need someone to translate the forum for the people who normally translate the forum for me ;/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.64506666 = 1.9352 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: "Yeah, come at me gobment bro! Ahm behind 7 proxies! MPEX got an anthrax email from NSA but he muxed it to double sideband at a lower baud rate and now he's in ur base, killing ur d00dz."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.6467996 = 6.468 BTC [+]
ozbot: Double-sideband suppressed-carrier transmission
mircea_popescu: that's the problem, the words taken disparate work, but somehow they've been put in a soup that fails to anything
mircea_popescu: well technically better coverage i guess, since your power's your power.
ozbot: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
dexX7: wait. you are herp?
tg2: I told you guys, they aren't even building their own hardware
tg2: I know the owner of the company who is assembling their hardware
tg2: I could go over there and jack all their units
tg2: But there aren't any lol
tg2: Anyway, waiting for alpha-t to get sued into the ground
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00618023 = 0.1421 BTC [+] {5}
dexX7: related: i was approached by hashfast last year to be a forum shill with a payment of $15/hour in babyjet credits - i declined
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00619998 = 1.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.6554 = 6.554 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00619998 = 1.86 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2909 @ 0.00094573 = 2.7511 BTC [+]
Duffer1: i'm not even a little surprised
ozbot: Here’s an idea for you pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: dexX7 you know, judging by the perpetual X is paid by MPEx "discoveries", "research" and so forth on the forum, im starting to suspect i may be the only one not doing this.
mircea_popescu: too quickly they think of it for them to not be doing it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, but i would imagine a better adjusted thing may be developed.
mircea_popescu: they've been toying with "assisted parking" for quite a while.
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06939704 = 0.2082 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: anyway, whosoever gets anywhere even near a deliverable with this tyhing is getting bought out in short order, and in the higher millions.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6747038 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, you polarize the lasers, you use modulated radar, there's solutions
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah well, the perennial possibility of idiots does not really constitute a counterargument.
mircea_popescu: i never hear anyone propose abstinence on the grounds that fucking may become obligatory otherwise.
tg2: I had one idea for a car invention
tg2: Proximity sensors on the end of your doors and hydraulic inhibitors on the door hinges
tg2: So your door doesn't open into somebody's car
tg2: it would stop just before
tg2: Nope this is sans contact
mircea_popescu: if anyone's seen cars in like rome etc... the even cheaper alternative would be "people stop giving a shit about scratches"
tg2: Not putting rubber door bumpers on my 150,000 merc
mircea_popescu: no car contains a flat surface of as much as a square inch
tg2: If it can be done with backup proximity sensors
tg2: That technology is already nature
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually even since the japanese have been working on their female android women replacements, i've been thinking "they'll make cars out of that skin material just as soon as possible"
tg2: They have scratch repairing paint already
moiety: they need robot women replacements with all the people like karpeles going over and buying their women
moiety is happy with a toaster, you know this ;P
mircea_popescu: "even a blind toaster can pinch a careless nipple", or how did that russian proverb go
moiety: i dont know any russian proverbs unless manuls are involved
mircea_popescu: i dunno about that, tbh. if anything, it'll remove a lot of pressure to perform from the mishoden, dysfunctional male humans, which'll make it so much better for the healthy.
mircea_popescu: take sports : a sport that's popular is annoying because all the inept idiots insist to play it.
moiety: LOL mircea_popescu i dont think i have a big enough arse to qualify
moiety: i just want one big enough to ride around on, is that so much to ask?
moiety: omg stuff your flying japanese girl covered cars, i want a flying manul!
mircea_popescu: moiety would you ride around on it naked holding a spear ?
moiety: wait, can i has a crossbow?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well it also depends on the application imo
mircea_popescu: but what do i know, my interaction with typo design was limited to being the phb for a few years.
jurov: moiety crossbow is fine as long as you don't wear armor with duck-beaked helmet
mircea_popescu: maybe she could have mmorpg style armor : something to protect her pubic bone and something on her shoulders.
mircea_popescu: because we all know that's where armor is really needed.
moiety: jurov, nah im not getting clothes so its cool
moiety: actually, pubic bones... yeah what mircea_popescu said
mircea_popescu: moiety armor where the hair grows. it's how the greeks did it...
moiety: but.. manuls are soooo fluffy... compensation?!
ozbot: Sa facem o regula pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: sadly, in romanian. but apparently same problems exist in english too
mircea_popescu: " With Howard Stern, the salient feature is the success, and the relative status." god help us. that's the salient feature ?
mircea_popescu: and no, the avg working stiff is by no means richer than the average medieval iobag
moiety: not a proper, someone else laces you in at the back one. mine had bones but laced up both sides instead
mircea_popescu: moiety yeah. they're not that comfortable to wear, esp for teh noob/peasant girl that wasn't raised with them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hmm, i should be on alt.support.shyness.
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moiety: <mircea_popescu> than cooking your boobs << lmfao
moiety: whatever happened to people liking other people for who they were? have i been under a rock too long?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 600 @ 0.00649968 = 3.8998 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: moiety show me people who ARE something and i'll consider it.
benkay: why ams bitcoinfolk so insane?
moiety: it depends what makes a person someone for you though. there arent enuogh people with personality now
blackwhite: because it attracts the best and the worst kind of people
mircea_popescu: the best kinds of people often actually being the worst kinds of people.
moiety: glad to see you made it through the night benkay, did a neighbour pop by to feed you?
moiety: bet my hattori is sharper tho :P
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, actual weapons exist to not be seen, but used. thatrical stuff the converse.
blackwhite: i just like the girl fuck all the other stuff
mircea_popescu: blackwhite you're not perverse enough to be here then!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.0009467 = 11.9284 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: for these current ten minutes there is sun
benkay: we have a crazy microclimate that's always flipping and flopping through various precipitation states
benkay: so hey are we distinguishing between incompetence and malice in Bitcoin these days, mircea_popescu ?
benkay: i was under the impression everything just got lumped under 'scam'
mircea_popescu: "sufficiently persistent incompetence is indistinguishable from malice."
benkay: is that you and your daikatana, moiety ?
mircea_popescu: benkay no, it's her and her loubotin sandals. the sword's a prop.
moiety: lolnope i have a hattori hunting as my pride and joy, i'd love one though.. plus i am the same colour as paper
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tg2: You guys blade heads?
andyfletcher: mircea_popescu, am on wot just wasn't authenticated
tg2: ;;ident andyfletcher
gribble: Nick 'andyfletcher', with hostmask 'andyfletcher!~andy@unaffiliated/uksv29', is identified as user 'andyfletcher', with GPG key id 502409E67767E3C6, key fingerprint 7104459391233F576A31B5CD502409E67767E3C6, and bitcoin address 17fZJ7UNTTxA2hrPLFvuNHbBnqpXJ31GB6
bitcoinpete: i just thought your car-minded piece was better directed at my car-minded followers
jurov: mircea_popescu: withdrawals pls
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's a thought : how about rng based on measuring instantaneous polarisation of Nd:YAG laser ?
mircea_popescu: the garnets aren't really that expensive anymore are they ?
mircea_popescu: are the aluminium garnets really that expensive still ?!
gribble: Nick 'bitcoinpete', with hostmask 'bitcoinpete!~bitcoinpe@S01060016cbc6cced.ed.shawcable.net', is identified as user 'bitcoinpete', with GPG key id 165749929F9A6BDD, key fingerprint E6625CC14638C4CA404694E9165749929F9A6BDD, and bitcoin address None
bitcoinpete: ;;rate benkay 1 helped teach me that variety speak
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user benkay has been recorded.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user artifexd has been recorded.
bounce: re hud and laser rangefinders, IIRC jaguar went on discovery ages ago with something built into the windshield, and ir lamps+imagers. and bmw also did somethingorother along those lines.
mircea_popescu: (ipads aren't particularly innovative eithger, in that strict sense)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.006499 = 0.6824 BTC [-]
bounce: don't have details, but could well be a proof of concept thingy, like those concept cars that never go beyond the single prototype made.
moiety: i get an error page too kakobrekla
kakobrekla: yeah but for MP it will work even if his net is shut off
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11949 @ 0.00094524 = 11.2947 BTC [-] {2}
moiety: the nfs site is down too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.0064991 = 0.234 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00094699 = 7.7653 BTC [+]
moiety: i get a security warning now
moiety: they must be mid-fix because the nfs logo works now
Dimsler_: maybe someone is trying to steal your buttcoins?
moiety: i see havelock's homepage is only updated with the 'good' news and the most up-to-date is buried
mircea_popescu: that's how you do pr, according to people who have no qualification, training or experience in the field.
ozbot: BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC)
mircea_popescu: which one of you oops i mean which one of me is that ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla dat thing is endless. mtgox will be long forgotten
mircea_popescu: "I am not publicly broadcasting my business plan due to its unique nature meant to take advantage of the market."
ozbot: Dank Bank Deposits - dank's soul is claimed - New music Nov 30th
mircea_popescu: "Hello, everyone, my name is Dank and I'm here to prove my worthiness as an investment. "
mircea_popescu: "By the end of this year, 2012, I believe I will be a highly known guitarist/musician."
mircea_popescu: "This time frame may seem unrealistically short, for I have only started playing electric guitar towards the end of August, but recent realizations have led me to believe this is possible."
mircea_popescu: "Humans have been evolving exponentially for some time now, with advances in technology and communication lessening the time needed for the same amount of change to occur. Logically, following this pattern, there will come a time when more change happens in an hour than has happened in the last millennium. Through meditation, connecting to a higher consciousness within, and communicating these ideas, I've had the epi
kakobrekla: its better than cognitive, even if it has less colors
mircea_popescu: but did you know that dropshadows lift the type off the page as if they are 3d?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 318 @ 0.006499 = 2.0667 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: lesson no1. never ever reboot the server.
mircea_popescu: servers that are rebooted are not really the same servers anymore.
mircea_popescu: anyway, let the log reflect the new coinage "unplanned maintenance reboot".
lnovy: you can fix everything with reboot... from stucked mouse to mysql table corruption...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im sure it's perfectly fine for hosting a blog etc.
ozbot: The ducks in the bathroom are not mine.
ozbot: I am able to move small objects with my mind.
mircea_popescu: "I have read your website and it is obviously that your a foggot."
lnovy: i god, i'm laughting like hell...
mircea_popescu: hey, did i ever tell you folks about the one time i got kicked out of a gay club ?
mircea_popescu: which is also the only time i ever got kicked out of anywhere, club or anything else.
jurov: what did you do there?
mircea_popescu: what one normally does in a club. drank and yelled at people.
jurov: lol i was not asking that in accusatory manner
tg2: can't say I blame them tho
tg2: I got thrown out of a club once with a $8000 tab
tg2: chepest night in a club so far
tg2: the promoter called me back for 2 weeks after crying and begging me to come back
mircea_popescu: they're too noobish around here to actualy have promoters.
tg2: montreal has a huge club scene
tg2: probably more clubs per capita than anywhere I know
mircea_popescu: well let's put it this way... in an actual town ever working class cunts can have fun.
mircea_popescu: it takes a real hellhole to really select the funhavers.
tg2: your women look very slavic
tg2: is romania even considered slavic?
tg2: I know that ukrain, serbia bulgaria are
tg2: (oops, i mean... southeastern russia, lol)
tg2: but, all sides of it are slavic...
mircea_popescu: it's ~85% romanian, some hungarian, trace other dozen or so elements
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how you figure those women look "Slavic"
tg2: only by hungary is it not slavic
tg2: this auroracoin aftermath is luls
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3605 @ 0.00094701 = 3.414 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: i bought such mobo with dual bios
jurov: but never actually tried it
jurov: one usually does it once in 5 years... not sure if it's worth the occupied space
jurov: yes i meant... hundred pocket sized gizmos to be used once in 5 yrs + cables = several boxen labeled shit and "more shit"
cads: hey has anyone hear if something bad is happening with auroracoin?
cads: about 10 days ago auroracoin put $300 worth of auroracoin up for any icelandic citizen to grab
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: "and I experienced complete awareness", lel
nubbins`: i've read that one in the past
cads: since then citizens have had their identities forged, the value of the AUR has dropped like 75% and now people are saying AUR is being hit by a 51% attack
cads: the chaos is kinda awesome but I can't figure what's going on
truffles: get a blackbox ull know it all
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00094734 = 19.0415 BTC [+] {2}
tg2: ponzidoge.com... lol
tg2: 8m dogecoin in 15 minutes
tg2: ltcponzi was $7000 worth of ltc in 45 mins yesterday
tg2: this is the new satoshidice
Mats_cd03: where do i acquire such a chinese made rom burner
tg2: dev said btc is coming soon
cads: thanks for sharing, tg2, that's delightful
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0568 = 0.3408 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0568 = 0.2272 BTC [+] {2}
tg2: #dogecoin having trouble wrapping their minds around the fact that an OPEN ponzi where everything is visible is not really a ponzi lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0449 = 0.2245 BTC [+]
tg2: whatever happened ot bitcoinsand
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06999999 = 0.35 BTC [+] {2}
tg2: still rolling I guess
ozbot: Bitcoin Address 1JfvCK3NAaKdQZCmu4vBjGhqAzxYrePsHg
tg2: not enough interest to be a ponzi :D
CheckDavid: Which basically is an explicit ponzi with rules
tg2: IPO are the last ones in :D
lnovy: the whole pc architecture is a big matrix, it looks and behaves pretty much nothing like you see it
lnovy: huh... scrollbuffer lag
tg2: fk its taking a long time to generate a gpg key with 9 matching characters in it's long ID lol
tg2: Found 3256676 keys so far, running for 104196.6s (Rate:31.3/s)
gribble: Nick 'tg2', with hostmask 'tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35', is identified as user 'tg2', with GPG key id 31FAA963C3333333, key fingerprint BFB291FE6B88A151B3BD2F9C31FAA963C3333333, and bitcoin address None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00094857 = 18.0228 BTC [+] {4}
bounce: asciilifeform: acorn arm boxes had riscos in rom. nice and quick booting, too.
Namworld: Wait.... WAIT. Wait wait wait wait wait... Stripe will allow Bitcoin payments?
Namworld: That adds a good bunch of merchants
ozbot: 'Malleability' attacks not to blame for Mt. Gox's missing bitcoins, study says | PCWorld
Namworld: If Karpeles finds more Bitcoins and they're all returned I'll make the weirdest face. "He didn't scam, he just lost the keys? Had to try and find doubles in old backups of data? What stupidity is this?"
Namworld: Current odds of getting 100% back: 0.001% or so, odds provided by Ass-Pullouts®
dexX7: hehe.. the wallet they found was allegedly found, because it was in an old format that new bitcoin clients don't recognize
dexX7: or something like that ;)
gribble: Nick 'xdotcomm_', with hostmask 'xdotcomm_!~xdotcomme@bas1-montreal51-1167905977.dsl.bell.ca', is not identified.
Namworld: Translation: "My keys!? They no work, what happened!? Oh, I have one here in this old backup. Maybe I can keep looking, maybe I find more keys in these old files."
Namworld: Someone, please do a retro parody of a platformer, called: "Karpeles and the Search for the Seven Private Keys"
Namworld: With coffee powerups, regulators and hacker mobs/bosses and of course collecting keys or fragments of keys.
jurov: Namworld don't forget protesters
jurov: and the end boss shall bear uncanny resemblance to mpoe-pr
jurov: chetty maybe you can make a little development detour?
truffles: a pr person that is total pr nightmare, only on internet