nubbins`: one of the reasons i come here
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Any other year situation would be similar here with power, but having a "temperate" year
nubbins`: if by that you mean circular conversations, then YES :D
BingoBoingo: "Polar Vortex" was unkind this winter but welcome now
mircea_popescu: mike_c: you're probably already smoking it. you need to have a valuable audience. << the proposition that tardstalk has a valuable audience is outrageous.
BingoBoingo: Several weeks with AC off and windows open
mike_c: hehe. somebody's got buy all those miners.
mircea_popescu: mike_c it's more like, van is a piggy bank. if i start pulling money out rather than pushing money in it'll prolly debalance it.
mike_c: so take all the revenue and use it buy ads.
nubbins`: asciilifeform time for a poll ;D
mircea_popescu: i don't net buy or net sell based on what i want, but based on what everyone else is doing
mircea_popescu is suspicious of distortion but definitely more thinking will go int this
mike_c: pulling out/pushing in implies a closed system.
mike_c: including a trilema ad slot could increase the supply in general and rise all boats.
mike_c: it's open cuz anyone can buy ads
mike_c: trilema slot would increase awareness of vanads and bring more advertisers?
mike_c: which could benefit all venues
mike_c: who wouldn't want to fill trilema's slot?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: i'm open to it, so long as serious money and i don't have to promise any kind of detectable result to anyone. << van is kinda tailored for that last part, at least.
mircea_popescu: mike_c one of the things i did was have ppls prepare code so i can show ads to non-cookied users only.
mike_c: amazingly? perhaps for a php dev. seems easy.
mircea_popescu: mike_c gotta appreciate trilema runs a custom string of hacks off 6 yo wp
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Just post cats, google images will send traffic
mike_c: ah ascii, i can see you are beings sucked in. join the crowd! peer pressure!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: More than actual google, right?
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: i confess i'm somewhat suspicious of anything which suggests to 'monetize' my site, which is more or less the polar inverse of 'monetizable' in the usual sense. << in fairness, i don't believe 90%+ of the derpage emitted by "advertising industry" in any way applies to van stuff.
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mike_c: hm, derpage aside, the point of advertising is to make money.
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mike_c: for some people. not me though.
mircea_popescu: if advertising is to survive, it'll have to invent itself as something else than medieval "fuck so wife makes more peons which make more koku"
mike_c: ok. then this: what use does vanads present other than to help advertisers make money?
mircea_popescu: i have no idea if it helps them make money or not, but it allows them to get places they wouldn't get otherwise.
mircea_popescu: not that the two are divorced or orthogonal or anything.
mircea_popescu: to get back to fucking, ever left money on the nightstand of a woman that ~wasn't~ a whore ?
mike_c: not directly. indirectly? every one.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> to get back to fucking, ever left money on the nightstand of a woman that ~wasn't~ a whore ? << SUre, I wanted cigarettes when I came to
nubbins`: "the average canadian spends more on taxes than on food, shelter and clothing combined"
mircea_popescu: nubbins` does the average canadian also get more food, shelter and clothing from the government than he gets on his own dime ?
nubbins`: as an above-average canadian, i cannot say with any degree of certainty
nubbins`: gotta pay for the moose license
nubbins`: all i gotta pay for is casings
mircea_popescu: mike_c your adhominem religious leadership aside, this whole discussion dovetails neatly into the converse, ascii's curiosity as to why am i giving bitdimes to random sluts.
mircea_popescu: well... there's apparently reasons. have i made money ?
nubbins`: "According to the Vancouver-based think-tank, the average Canadian family earned $77,381 in 2013 and paid $32,369 in total taxes — or 41.8 per cent of income — compared with 36.1 per cent for food, shelter and clothing combined."
mike_c: not yet. that's different from simply no.
mircea_popescu: the fact that when openssl got shot in the head there was someone there to pick the pieces...
mircea_popescu: i mean, reality being complex, evaluating how you make money becomes untrivial.
mike_c: sure. ads increase awareness way beyond CTR.
mircea_popescu: i played solforge, some card trading game, and as for the past 500 games i played for more than 2 hours, i paid them something
nubbins`: can't have nice things if you don't want to pay for them
mircea_popescu: maybe this doesn't make me any money, or maybe this is the last thing that keeps playable games available which is what keeps me from killing andreas for realz.
mike_c: ok, but vanads as tipbox.. idk. ascii won't join for 5 doge.
mircea_popescu: from the position of the ad buyer, i was more than once confronted with endless lists of "venues" to buy space on.
mircea_popescu: what did i buy on ? i couldn't care less about the "numbers"
mircea_popescu: and the thought in my head was "i'd buy the whole book, if i had a guarantee your book is all respectable folk, no mfa, no shit. no torrents w/e"
mircea_popescu: so my rationale is, make a place which actually only lists legitimate venues, people won't have the problem i had anymore.
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mircea_popescu: may have other problems, sure. generally we don't see th eproblems we don't have anymore. like in this oglaf comic :
mike_c: i dunno. luckily we don't have to come to agreement because we will see what happens. i do agree it is something worth trying.
BingoBoingo: And this is why Batman beats Superman, he solves problems Superman can't afford to know exist.
mircea_popescu: that's not really how it works sadly. we'll have to argue it whether it succeeds or fails
mike_c: but we'll have more evidence to argue with
mircea_popescu: because the argument of why it did either can't be put to rest by the mere observation that it did it.
mircea_popescu: for the admittedly slanted view from my tower however, i can definitely say that i would trade a billion visitors from twitter for a thousand visitors fro whatever,
mircea_popescu: i guess at the basest, anticonsumerism consists on making businesses not dependant on consumers and the govt dole that supports them.
mircea_popescu: about on the degree of the distinction between going for a play and going to the doctor.
mircea_popescu: they're both professional venues where experts do something to your benefit.
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I think Fergeson is the application of the Boston lessons.
BingoBoingo: Still I plan on keeping to Illinois this weekend.
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BingoBoingo: Fergeson is in North county, but West and South County have had riots as well
mircea_popescu: there';s no need for fiddy billion people to be smart.
mircea_popescu: fiddy billion people can be anything they want. all it takes is one.
mircea_popescu: mike_c: BingoBoingo: bah, nvmnd, sorry. they all suck. <.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: presently you can do a kind of basic 'iq filter' just by, e.g. ignoring anything whatsoever distributed as an ms-word turd << ya think ?! :D
mircea_popescu: BigBitz: such irony. << they deserve it for using lastpass, srsly.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: seven nekkid gals reading the news in seven different languages at the same time > F5 << omfg you haxt my cameras ?!
mircea_popescu: pankkake: that's how you spot a tiny penis <<lol maybe you're just mean.
mircea_popescu: artifexd:
http://cryptopals.com/ <- some nice lessons teaching how crypto works, how to attack it, and how easy it is to screw it up << this is useful & interesting.
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mircea_popescu: course some older readers may recall the phuctor and it's quiet quietness. not everything is a they.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony lol not bad that guy. is he the real jeff jarvis ? :D
BingoBoingo: Real Jeff Jarvis comes in later all butthurt
assbot: The Economist explains: Why the price of commercial sex is falling | The Economist
mircea_popescu: " Location matters too. Prostitutes in San Francisco, where the cost of living is high, charge more than those in cheaper cities such as Prague."
mircea_popescu: a) the idiots in san francisco were whining a month ago about how $10/sq foot is "outside of what a "normal" business can pay in rent"
TheNewDeal: kitko is showing gold above 1300 RIGHT NOW
mircea_popescu: b) europeans are not fucktarded about sex like the us barbarians are.
mircea_popescu: "THE ECONOMIST has analysed 190,000 profiles of female sex workers on websites where customers post reviews. The data cover 84 cities in 12 countries, with the biggest number of workers in America and most of the rest in big cities in rich countries. According to our analysis, the price of an hour of sex with a female prostitute has been dropping fairly steadily in recent years. In 2006 the average cost was around $340
mircea_popescu: this is roughly the equivalent of scrapping seo blogs to get the average revenue of a seo expert.
mircea_popescu: let the permanent record permanently reflect the permanent fact that the economist is a piece of toilet paper upon which down syndrome patients scribble whatever shit happens through their head.
BingoBoingo: I dunno mircea_popescu you're being awfully harsh on downs syndrome patients comparing them to the economist
leochilll: just a bitcoin fan sick of the propaganda!
mike_c: TheNewDeal: how did you WoL bets go?
peterl: BingoBoingo: thanks, still working on it
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BingoBoingo: peterl: Just a suggestion, you don't have to follow it, but make your own WP theme, keeps shit simpler
peterl: yeah, I just grabbed one to get started, I am planning on rewriting most of it as I go
BingoBoingo: peterl: "Toolbox" is a decent blank slate to shape to your whims
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TheNewDeal: just curious - why did the URO bet get cancelled. Shitty resolution resource?
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal shitty coin. people wanna advertise on bitbet, might as well either outright buy it or else put some money down.
mircea_popescu: im not paying people shareholder $$$ to advertise their dog's vomit.
TheNewDeal: I couldn't care less about URO, hadn't heard of it until the bet.
TheNewDeal: Would rather go by kilos of piss on the street - will be worth more tomorrow
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ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> eventually. once ben_vulpes figures out the basics of how to install servers and stuff << i've got the basics down pretty well. sifting through the midden without bringing the whole heap down on oneself is far beyond basics.
mike_c: working on illustrations
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, mike_c, mircea_popescu: seems like there's some demand for an ad slot that's invisible unless paid for with a venue-specified minimum bid per day.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: What evidence suggests that...
mike_c: yeah, i'm not demanding that.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes welcome to the empire of good design, where most customer requests get a "no need for new code, you're doing it wrong" from management.
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i don't believe 90%+ of the derpage emitted by "advertising industry" << precisely this. as i understand, cargo cult.
BingoBoingo: TimSwanson: I know reading is hard in caves in Romania << Where is dude's intel department?
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mircea_popescu: actually romania has an extensive network of caves and carstic phenomena.
BingoBoingo: Missouri has a lot of Karst geology as well. Most pictures of "Nature" in Romania remind me of the Ozarks
BingoBoingo: TimSwanson: You said I was a "environmental scholar" << You are whether you admit it or not.
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, this Tim Swanson is totally an environmental derp, but English is a sloppy language.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: for example "TimSwanson: I work doing market research for Bitcoin companies" << He studies mosses and Lichen
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what if one of these days you'll unwrap a gift to find a weird egg or somesuch
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i say one thing, derp reads what's preloaded in his stupid head. then i say "you're too stupid to understand what's being said", derp figures i'm "attacking" him.
BingoBoingo: This Swanson dicklick makes me want to stay pseudonymous forever, with my real name still an open secret among all WoTty people who care to ask. Just so silly onomatapeia can be more real then Tim, the San Fransisco Man
mircea_popescu: congrats to fluffypony FabianB dignork mthreat justusranvier
mike_c: kakobrekla doesn't have a single negative rating. what a nice guy.
mike_c: that is true. i guess he only pisses off people that don't matter
mircea_popescu: or pisses them off enough they can't remember their passwords
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, my romanian is shit. I can't speak it and barely translate it. My reading though is improving.
mircea_popescu: if you can actually read trilema you're above about a third of native speakers.
BingoBoingo: I doubt I could read much non-Trilema romanian though.
BingoBoingo: Basically for a Trilema I map the grammer and then dictionary the words
BingoBoingo: Then again not many English speakers have done better with post switch trilema compared to pre-switch have they?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> this is how one comprehends a text. << Rarely taught in US. Surprised classmates when in Spinoza class I told them my secret weapon was posterboard for mapping things to other things.
BingoBoingo: But how else does one do geometry of a medium more portable than a chalkboard?
mircea_popescu: it was taught just about a thousand years ago in teh monasteries.
BingoBoingo: But secular humanist emoting!!! Old is bad, new is mestraul painting. Don't worry about OSHA no helmet required.
BingoBoingo: When I tried philosophy grad school everyone got in pissing matches over who read Whitehead or Russel, but how many other gave a shot at their Principia they did together? 0
BingoBoingo: Because apparently Logos is the least important area of Philosophy
BingoBoingo: I mean if you are making love to knowledge Logos is basically the tits
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mircea_popescu: in other words, "find anyone implementing e=3 pseudocrypto and fire them"
copumpkin: that's how the first iphone unlock worked
BingoBoingo: As far as the teaching Assistant part of being a grad student goes going from freshman logic to babysitting pharm students was a godsend. The latter FEARED the material they were studying.
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mike_c: BingoBoingo: be the amazing!
mike_c: hm. novels are fiction, right? i guess not.
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BingoBoingo: ;;later tellTimSwanson I don't have to be a Bitcoin Taliban to understand how it works << Actually the model is more like ISIS
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BingoBoingo: ;;later tell TimSwanson I don't have to be a Bitcoin Taliban to understand how it works << Actually the model is more like ISIS
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> if you can actually read trilema you're above about a third of native speakers. << You know on this point alone if Silicon Valley really cared about BTC they'd be wining and dinign me by nao
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mike_c: i don't know about you guys, but my blog posts are done when i can't stand to look at them anymore.
BingoBoingo: mike_c: It's like that for about 50% of mine
decimation: re: swanson << his writings make sense if you assume he is ignorant of Gresham's law
BingoBoingo: decimation: That doesn't explain his ignorance of how to structure a document he is going to try to label a "book"
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decimation: you see a book is a container that holds words that you vomit
BingoBoingo: decimation: Still, the container has a standard form. Toilets can have different looks, but are recognizable as toilets.
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mircea_popescu: <mike_c> i don't know about you guys, but my blog posts are done when i can't stand to look at them anymore. << i take about half an hour.
BingoBoingo: I've spent anywhere from 30 minutes to a day and a half depending on the post.
decimation: moldbug describes how all prices will be recalculated once the world passes from the dollar through the bitcoin-vortex
decimation: someone standing on the shore today sees only a ripple where that vortex will one day consume everything
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Honestly I often spend more time trying to make the stupid posts less stupid then say fuck it and hit publish
decimation: I'm riffing a bit, he was talking about gold mainly
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decimation: he thinks usg will stop bitcoin - I don't find that a very credible thesis.
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decimation: I just mentally edit his posts with s//gold/bitcoin/
decimation: "On the dollar's last day as a meaningful unit of account, total dollar net worth is at its historical peak. ... Best of all, unlike theglobe.com, this boom is sustainable. Ideally, it terminates in an allocated BITCOIN standard with no debt - the American and European economies at present, of course, being brutally overcapitalized. "
decimation: THis is another mistake swanson makes. THe idea that transactions are so costly in dollar terms is quite irrelvant to bitcoin holders.
decimation: becuase once the world has passed through the bitcoin vortex, all prices will be recalculated - and there's no formula to get from here to there
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well, in the San Francisco world of Bitcoin ATM's transactions actually do cost $40 or $50 above spot
decimation: somehow the fact that bitgo and xapo have raised money means that bitcoin is expensive to secure
BingoBoingo: Nah, it means there's people with too much fiat who can't be arsed to secure it themselves yet
decimation: man I thought mircea was hard on the guy but after reading a few pages of the book he deserves worse
BingoBoingo: Also the fucking page numbering, lack of citation style, etc
decimation: I'm trying to figure out what his angle is. What rich prince (perhaps in his mind) wants poorly-written anti-bitcoin pablum?
mircea_popescu: <decimation> I just mentally edit his posts with s//gold/bitcoin/ << that's a way to go about it. prolly would have made hitler quite palatable too
mircea_popescu: decimation> man I thought mircea was hard on the guy but after reading a few pages of the book he deserves worse << and importantly, i read no pages of the book.
decimation: deciding what not to spend mental cycles on is a valuable skill
mircea_popescu: "The Pioneer has before declared that our only safety depends upon the total extirmination of the Indians. Having wronged them for centuries, we had better, in order to protect our civilization, follow it up by one more wrong and wipe these untamed and untamable creatures from the face of the earth."
decimation: we did worse - we made them depend on the bezzle for welfare - now most of them exist in a drunken half-stupor
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mircea_popescu: For Mencken, Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was the finest work of American literature. Much of that book relates how gullible and ignorant country "boobs" (as Mencken referred to them) are swindled by confidence men like the (deliberately) pathetic "Duke" and "Dauphin" roustabouts with whom Huck and Jim travel down the Mississippi River. These scam-artists swindle by posing as enlightened speakers on temperance (to ob
mircea_popescu: tain the funds to get roaring drunk), as pious "saved" men seeking funds for far off evangelistic missions (to pirates on the high seas, no less), and as learned doctors of phrenology (who can barely spell). Mencken read the novel as a story of America's hilarious dark side, a place where democracy, as defined by Mencken, is "the worship of jackals by jackasses".
mircea_popescu: "I admit freely enough that, by careful breeding, supervision of environment and education, extending over many generations, it might be possible to make an appreciable improvement in the stock of the American negro, for example, but I must maintain that this enterprise would be a ridiculous waste of energy, for there is a high-caste white stock ready at hand, and it is inconceivable that the negro stock, however caref
mircea_popescu: ully it might be nurtured, could ever even remotely approach it. The educated negro of today is a failure, not because he meets insuperable difficulties in life, but because he is a negro. He is, in brief, a low-caste man, to the manner born, and he will remain inert and inefficient until fifty generations of him have lived in civilization. And even then, the superior white race will be fifty generations ahead of him."
mircea_popescu: The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most
mircea_popescu: devious and mediocre—the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.
mircea_popescu: The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
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kyuupichan: Does anybody maintain a BTC market cap as % of all coin cap? I think it must be near a 2-year high.
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mircea_popescu: um no, don't do that, because well... suppose these two crap out. what'll people do then without the other two listed ?
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FabianB: $proxies mpex.bz mpex.ws mpex.co mpex.biz mpex.coinbr.com
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mircea_popescu: FabianB maybe make it so if one fails it tries the next ?
FabianB: good idea, will implement that later
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mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol that's a fine example of why one doesn't really want to offr live betting.
mircea_popescu: why attract a horde of internet "entrepreneurs" trying to do a lot of high bandwidth nonsense in their retarded quest of getting five euros off you "risk free" ?
mircea_popescu: if they just flipped burgers they'd make more per hour with less work,
mircea_popescu: but you can't talk sense into these overgrown children with their delusions of independence.
fluffypony: where's Kyle when you need someone for an abject lesson
mircea_popescu: Just don't place arbs which gives you less than 5% of your "under" stake. If you place 100 EUR on under at Europeans , it means that you must place only arbs which give you more than 5 EUR. This way, you need only 20 arbs to recover the losses from " 1 goal" for the 30 (might even less) sec you need after you first bet is accepted probably is less than 1/20. This rule of 5% profit from you under stake is reasonable. So
mircea_popescu: me statistics of collected data from such bets could reveal more, but this 1/20 goal scoring assumption seems to be close to reality. Base on my own stats the probability of the goal is 1,8% , which means that 1,8 goals are scored in 100 bets. My net profit is smth like 65% of my total profit, the rest (35%) is the loss i have suffered from goals being scored in pending time. You must never place bets less than 5 EUR
mircea_popescu: (5% of your under bet, which we are assuming it is 100 EUR) unless it is HT where there is no danger. If you place bets for 2 EUR profit, you need now 50 arbs to recover the losses and i doubt that you will make any money.
mircea_popescu: "his own data" being an arbitrary, uncontrolled and irreproducible cutout of the general flow.
RagnarDanneskjol: mhmm. if he hurls enough data though, surely this gaping hole will be overlooked
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.28854545 = 3.174 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: i'm sure the schmuck is sitting in a bar somewhere right now, all radiant of his greatness as he imagines it.
mircea_popescu: that unless he's not running for his life from a coupla thugs owned by some bookie he owes to.
assbot: 3 Business Lessons From The Sinaloa Drug Cartel | Co.Design | business + design
Vexual: robin williams doesnt do coke anymore
mircea_popescu: Blockbuster is gone. So are Lehman Brothers, Atari, Pan Am, Circuit City and countless others each year. Startups fail, too, with 80% going belly up within the first 18 months. But here’s something to consider in comparison: criminal syndicates don’t go out of business. The Chinese Triads have been around since the 17th century. For 25 years, Mexico’s Sinaloa Cartel has outmaneuvered vicious competition at home a
mircea_popescu: s well as the United States' $51 billion--annually--“War on Drugs.”
mircea_popescu: yeah well the problem with that is that it's more akin to saying that detroit or hollywood don't go away.
mircea_popescu: "the chinese triads" aren't a the in this context any more than "the chinese government" is a the. obviously there's going to be some sort of government, such as for instance the one in taiwan.
mircea_popescu: FabianB or anyone interested : .ws switch blew. the rest are fine. ws should be back within hours as replacement gets installed.
mircea_popescu: "Another is just a sorrowful question: What if these talented criminals had only used their talents for good?"
mircea_popescu: allow me to rephrase : what if the state went the fuck away and stopped bothering people.
Vexual: people would be confused for a few months
punkman: speaking of syndicates, ISIS in Lebanon already. They just need some boats now and then Pirates of the Mediterranean !
mircea_popescu: i kinda am rooting for them to invade italy, force italians into sex slavery in morocco
mircea_popescu: i'd prolly visit just for to shoot new trilema header.
assbot: Mosul Dam's Takeover by ISIS Raises Risk of Flooding - WSJ
punkman: oh lol dam without foundation, they just pump a mix of water/cement/sand into foundation cavities all the time
mircea_popescu: in things like permafrost you can at least put deep pillars in and pour on that
Vexual: i attempted the engine from ore thing
Vexual: but diverted apter i ruined my kitchen
Vexual: wehn considering improvements to the valve system i imagined a better concrete pump
assbot: Seinfeld - Kramer (the Merv Griffin set) - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 320 @ 0.00185347 = 0.5931 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: Forex Market Regulation: Who Can Really Police This Global Market? - Forbes
assbot: Titti Persson (TittiPersson) auf Twitter
Vexual: ltc was 30 cents before asics?
cazalla: nah, was well above that before they arrived
Vexual: well 5 bucks aint nothin to cry about
cazalla: depends when you bought them i guess
Vexual: holding ltc for more than 30 mins gives me hives
Vexual: it was $8 or something at the top?
assbot: Twitter admits that as many as 23 million of its active users are automated – Quartz
Vexual: reallly 50 bux? i ignore it
kyuupichan: Playing on bitcoinwisdom I see a $48.48. Might be higher with more resolution
Vexual: thankyou for not making me google the date
BigBitz: It was $4x for sure. I didn't think it quite hit $5x though.
BigBitz: Bitcoin tanking hard last 24 hours.
Vexual: big mines pay bills in dollars bb
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 23873402697.3 based on data since last change | 24726235837.8 based on data for last three days
cazalla: satoshi was smart in a way coblee was not, if bitcoin died, no-one can find him, coblee on the otherhand..
assbot: Charles Lee AKA Coblee MAXIMUM AUTISM - YouTube
BigBitz: That is an odd video, cazalla.
Vexual: i still dont understtand
cazalla: you don't think that someone that says you can send 10's of millions of dollars to someone in china, that you don't even know, has autism?
BigBitz: Do you know what Autism is?
cazalla: BigBitz, another word for retard, isn't it ?
cazalla: or is it that label kids get given who then think they're special
Vexual: i send money to people i dont know
BigBitz: It's not another word for being retarded.
cazalla: like the autists are the minecraft convention who ask the developers if they have it and how it helped them
Vexual: are you eating veg or just lapin caz?
Vexual: is coblee some scammor?
Vexual: ive never heard of him
pankkake: like most chinese, copy something and make it worse
cazalla: Vexual, he tells people fools gold is silver
Vexual: whats asciicode for infintity?
Vexual: cazalla: lapin is rabbit, you need veg or jour liver makes your brain wild
xmj: Vexual: please stop spamming me.
Vexual: you might wanna redefine spam, kid
Vexual: thats not how you play frogger
diana_coman: wyrdmantis, start by reading the logs I suppose
wyrdmantis: mircea popescu told me that in order to improve my rating in the wot i have to work FOR someone already in the wot
diana_coman: not bad, but it's good to know that need was never enough to get something, right?
diana_coman: I think one of the latest posts on trilema offered an idea of something to do, so give it a try
wyrdmantis: i can't identify it... what's the title about?
chetty: wyrdmantis, what sort of things can you do?
assbot: The Bitcoin Lordship list, first revision pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
pankkake: ;;ticker --market paymium --currency eur
gribble: Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'bitmynt', 'btsp', 'btcavg', 'krk', 'btcde', 'btce', 'bfx'] or 'all'
pankkake: ;;ticker --market bcent --currency eur
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 410.0, Best ask: 416.0, Bid-ask spread: 6.00000, Last trade: 410.0, 24 hour volume: 71.27294753, 24 hour low: 410.0, 24 hour high: 436.0, 24 hour vwap: 423.83422109
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 533.02, Best ask: 533.68, Bid-ask spread: 0.66000, Last trade: 533.68, 24 hour volume: 15323.73920370, 24 hour low: 524.7, 24 hour high: 572.0, 24 hour vwap: 552.917907413
gribble: Error: "tickert" is not a valid command.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 525.03, vol: 17604.91999112 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 523.3, vol: 8192.93311 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 526.71, vol: 11869.68961837 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 560.0, vol: 31.53948071 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 522.11575, vol: 7017.12670000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 531.63618, vol: 4.33673079 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 537.34, vol: 92.09489774 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
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assbot: Activision is making a new Kings Quest · Newswire · The A.V. Club
mod6: that might be the first game like that I ever played
assbot: hdbuck +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
hdbuck: merci pankkake j’essaie le WoT là :)
StephanLivera: so price dip hey, I think a lot of people need to chill out
pankkake: I don't like either panic sells or panic buys
StephanLivera: I suspect it's partly ethereum devs cashing some out, and partly merchant adoption outpacing user hoarding
nubbins`: mod6 kq3 was precisely the first thing i ever did with a computer
assbot: King's Quest III Redux : To Heir is Human, an AGDinteractive Graphic Adventure Game
assbot: ethereum blog | Announcement on planned withdrawal from exodus
assbot: Bitcoin Address 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2
nubbins`: warning: you've forgotten how goddamn hard that game is
StephanLivera: I think people need to just chill out, be patient and wait for people to 'naturally' be spurred into buying/hoarding bitcoin. It could be bail ins, could be big banks defaulting, loss of purchasing power from inflation etc
nubbins`: StephanLivera you've come across the most patient people in the entire btc space
nubbins`: you'll be hard-pressed to find someone concerned about the day-to-day price in here :D
StephanLivera: yeah I'm sure the people who are in here tend to be more technically competent
StephanLivera: yeah, one of my mates will message me all the time when there's big price movement, particularly price drop. I think he's a little too emotionally invested
nubbins`: StephanLivera that's one of the stages ;D
nubbins`: hey, some women think they don't need feminism until they're in their 60s ;D
nubbins` pops corn in anticipation of others reading logs
StephanLivera: so I'm new around here, what is the best way to get rated in WoT with assbot?
pankkake: ;;rate StephanLivera 1 #bitcoin-assets +v
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
pankkake: ;;rate StephanLivera 1 #bitcoin-assets +v
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user StephanLivera has been recorded.
nubbins`: if not the best, certainly the easiest ;D
pankkake: ;;rate hdbuck 1 #bitcoin-assets +v
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user hdbuck has been recorded.
diana_coman: ahahaha @nubbins will have to remember that when I turn 60
hdbuck: pankkake so you know lainz? ^^
pankkake: yes, I met him a few times. he actually told me about this chan!
assbot: [Phoronix] The Lenovo X200 Now Works With Coreboot
assbot: BitPagos Brings Bitcoin to 8,000 Convenience Stores With Ripio
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atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 1878190.93 in 1998 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: 0.00
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.06 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 3145.40 GH/s
punkman: asciilifeform: I think of you when I read gallium now
punkman: anyone else's internets timing out a lot today?
assbot: The IPv4 Internet Hiccups - Slashdot
punkman: asciilifeform: yeah but Square isn't selling everything you sell and cheaper
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assbot: ethereum blog | Announcement on planned withdrawal from exodus
punkman: they can't have sold that much to make it go $520
jurov: we're out of internets?
assbot: People! US Dollars are not worth a fifth of a Bitcent. STOP SELLING! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
pankkake: this is starting to sound like #bitcoin-bagholders
kakobrekla: mp doesnt even come on the buyers radar
kakobrekla: and if it did, it would be categorized under "crazy"
kakobrekla: i think you all are underestimating the power of animated webpage design
punkman: you wash some of your own btc, jerk some puppets, the muppets won't be able to resist
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
kakobrekla: i remember when i was a kid, there was a game, where you were the deer with the gun hunting hunters.
assbot: Anonymouth: The Linguistic Tool That Might Have Helped JK Rowling | New Republic
assbot: Adversarial stylometry
kakobrekla: i guess it was the first version of deer avenger that i was exposed to.
assbot: Ce matin, un lapin... ( originale ) - YouTube
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assbot: [Phoronix] The Lenovo X200 Now Works With Coreboot
assbot: What caused todays Internet hiccup | BGPmon
bats_cd03: thats why coreboot works, and not libreboot :P
assbot: Controlling USB Flash Drive Controllers: Expose of Hidden Features
bats_cd03: 'audio-based communication for bridging air-gaps' is p cool
bats_cd03: (i'm probably the only person in the internets that hasnt actually read about badbios until now)
assbot: Travis Goodspeed's Blog: Emulating USB DFU to Capture Firmware
bats_cd03: would you have any suggestions for reading material?
bats_cd03: i was thinking making a run at : ip camera, 'encrypted' drive, and wifi dongle. i might also fuzz some windows drivers
xmj: asciilifeform: more often than you think
bats_cd03: personal edification and luls, i might clearsign a paper and publish if i find anything interesting
xmj: asciilifeform: (if you're in a country that allows that)
bats_cd03: maybe i'll go for inclusion in this records.bitcoin-assets thing i briefly read about
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BingoBoingo: wyrdmantis: Wed design too shiny, prolly scam
pankkake: Y-Combinator and featured on Coindesk
wyrdmantis: no it's not directly linked with y-combinator, i think
wywialm: good afternoon, #bitcoin-assets
bats_cd03: or is that cloudflare? i can't tell.
nubbins`: "clouflare: you'd better hope we don't go down"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.76083848 BTC to 13`817 shares, 12744 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 13.74235660 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1195 satoshi per share
pankkake: CloudFlare: snake oil with top-notch tech support from the NSA
empyex: jurov: Proxies: mpex.bz mpex.ws mpex.co mpex.biz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 1228 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91
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kakobrekla: <asciilifeform> cpanel !?! < since ever
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 19098 BTC profit, 0.0k BTC invested, 1269.21 mio bets, 5.32 mio BTC wagered
jurov: asciilifeform: mircea uses cheap hosts for outermost proxies]
kakobrekla: cpanel hosts are actually not the cheapest
assbot: Ah, your hair. Your hair is soft. It's like a girl's. Now how do you get it that way?
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 541.83, Best ask: 544.58, Bid-ask spread: 2.75000, Last trade: 544.6, 24 hour volume: 22684.48763127, 24 hour low: 524.55, 24 hour high: 572.0, 24 hour vwap: 546.416149241
wyrdmantis: how to send messages to someone not online?
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 188 Ask: 225 Last Price: 188 24h-Vol: 154k High: 250 Low: 188 VWAP: 192
assbot: BitBet - LTC dead before Doge :: 0.02 B (2%) on Yes, 0.88 B (98%) on No | closing in 10 months 3 weeks | weight: 99`625 (100`000 to 10`000)
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gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 540.34, Best ask: 540.95, Bid-ask spread: 0.61000, Last trade: 540.32, 24 hour volume: 22676.31398977, 24 hour low: 524.55, 24 hour high: 572.0, 24 hour vwap: 546.408520967
ben_vulpes: hey is that the dump from ether profits?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes kinda what the usg needs, more loans of this type.
mircea_popescu: as any successful fiction writer found out in short order.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ether is a loan to the usg?
ben_vulpes: or btc sent to ether addr is loan to usg?
assbot: Let’s pretend… pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
ben_vulpes: yeah, i get it i read it, but whence the source? there was the usms sale which is theoretically trickling into the market, and the ether sale which may or may not be trickling into the market. the former, clearly usg. the latter as well?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes pretty much every single major sucking of chumps change you will see from about q1 onwards will be and has been a psyops riding on top of a usg-backed institutional lending for shorts
mircea_popescu: here's the scheme : whatever usg affiliate, be it goldman sachs or herpy q derp that holds any sum of btc will lend it to the usg btc policy bureau in exchange for fiat guarantees.
mircea_popescu: any usg affiliate or more likely, herpy q derp that looks like he may acquire any btc sum through any means will receive all the soft backing possible, from business insder news articles to an invitation to the fucking white house. anything whatsoever as long as it loks natural rather than spammy
mircea_popescu: all these loan contracts are promised to unwind in fiat eventually, and will be in fact profitable for all parties if and only if bitcoin actually fails.
mircea_popescu: they are no major concern for the usg in either case, because man who hangs for a goat might as well hang for a goat and a chick
mircea_popescu: and so here we are. part ii of the game is, how much do you ~actually~ like this thing, once money actually is on the table.
mircea_popescu: unremarkably, the worthless shitheads that joined late have nothing to contribute.
mircea_popescu: but suddenly, the large early holdings that all the shitheads-with-a-megaphone were decrying as dangerous to bitcoin
mircea_popescu: if the volcano never erupts, the fertile land on its slopes is actually enough to make the village own the other villages and build an empire.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this whole charade'd have worked a damned sight better if the various y-combinator bezzlers, the foundation hearn, gmaxwell and co would have actually had what they thought they had and everyone thought they should have, ie, actual respectability and bitcoin cred.
mircea_popescu: thankfully, uncommon sense prevailed. so far at least.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what i think on that topic is perhaps apparent from what i do, namely, that i'm even talking about all this.
mircea_popescu: but yes, for momentum shorts soft landing is the worst fucking news imaginable. so far, we're beating the shit out of a soft flubbery substance the size of a continent.
mircea_popescu: it's kinda funny how this works in qm terms. basically, an oracle of the wave function, but just on the real part. is this actually useful ?
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Alibaba IPO mkt cap over $150B end of opening day"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1019/ Odds: 68(Y):32(N) by coin, 67(Y):33(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.57 BTC. Current weight: 94,939.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's the major change here. after the missed boat of govt mining last year, this year the us fed has actually given its infinite fiat backing to any scheme that convincingly may help, and meanwhile to trying to depress price.
mircea_popescu: this isn't something other countries can do, nor do they need to. this is the one opportunity they get to stock up.
mircea_popescu: it boggles the mind what ends up being sop in a system that survives long enough.
mircea_popescu: kinda best argument against survival, that. "you'll end up weird."
mircea_popescu: fluffypony you know i can't look at spagni.net and not think spaghetti on the first pass.
los_pantalones: BFL tried to sell ~3k BTC over the counter 10 days ago
mircea_popescu: should be interesting, because no way that doesn't get attached.
los_pantalones: was my argument to my buddy who thought about pulling the trigger
los_pantalones: i told him he was a moron and welcome to the litigation party
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in bankruptcy proceedings, suspect trades of the management can be attached to the proceedings.
mircea_popescu: in bankruptcy proceedings with an aroma of fraud, criminal liability may flow through such trades
los_pantalones: for whatever price i want, bankrupt the co and walk out w/ cash
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones yeah, no practical way for an unwotted system to work otherwise.
mircea_popescu: notably the inventors of capitalism didn't either want or use such procedures.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1126 @ 0.00175578 = 1.977 BTC [-] {11}
mircea_popescu: but then again they were specifically uninclusive, or should i say anti-inclusive.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, they aren't in fact, but surely, such is promised.
mircea_popescu: anything is promised when the matter at hand is extending the life of promise as a thing into the world.
assbot: Jeezy on Sway in the Morning: Jay Z, Rick Ross, His Son, Freddie Gibbs, Illuminati and more - YouTube
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 215279.89 in 1996 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -88.54
assbot: BitBet - ATC to reach block 50000 on time :: 2.5 B (26%) on Yes, 7.05 B (74%) on No | closed 2 weeks 3 days ago
mod6: was someone else looking for me earlier?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 989 @ 0.00174 = 1.7209 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00171459 = 1.7146 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 458 @ 0.00171111 = 0.7837 BTC [-] {2}
gribble: 1 BTC = 546.99 USD = 409.093821 eur
pankkake: ;;ticker --market bcent --currency eur
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 411.01, Best ask: 414.49999999, Bid-ask spread: 3.49000, Last trade: 412.0, 24 hour volume: 98.8638896, 24 hour low: 401.0, 24 hour high: 433.98, 24 hour vwap: 414.70497387
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1760 @ 0.00171113 = 3.0116 BTC [-] {4}
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 545.45, Best ask: 546.33, Bid-ask spread: 0.88000, Last trade: 546.34, 24 hour volume: 24793.05892021, 24 hour low: 524.55, 24 hour high: 572.0, 24 hour vwap: 545.688021621
assbot: Petrodollar Scam Breaking Down - YouTube
jurov: we should bribe him to narrate some trilema material
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nubbins`: how many horses did you need to make that much paste :D
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point i had buried under all that failpaste is... wtf, "petrodollar scam breaking down plz send me paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr dollar instead" ?
ben_vulpes: (from #emacs: "better than a gun-activated bitcoin printer")
the20year: Any RS investors? We just sent out August financials
assbot: Orlando Scandrick tried to explain his PED use. | SportsonEarth.com : Will Leitch Article
mircea_popescu: here's a funny story from the past : in 1936 (ie, after the disastrous effects of roosevelt's socialist inanity became apparent to anyone worth the mention), literary digest sent out 10mn questionnaires to all the people buying it + anyone with a car or a phone.
mircea_popescu: according to these, roosevelt was going out of office.
mircea_popescu: according to people who didn't read literary digest, own a car or a phone however... he stayed.
mircea_popescu: the ~other~ us liberal dictator, died in office, during his 4th term.
mircea_popescu: (also author of the sec, in case anyone missed the memo on what exactly the play is "undo the new deal", should they continue unaligned.)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Amphetamines are which is what the test was positive for. His story is MDMA, because recreational drugs have a lesser penalty (counseling vs. unpaid 4 game suspension)
mircea_popescu: you can test specifically for mdma clearance tho neh ?
BingoBoingo: Prolly, whether the NFL does or not is murky.
mircea_popescu: not like they have to test so many samples they can't afford a lab technician
mircea_popescu: jacking off is also usually done with bots, nevertheless athletes usually can afford stripper service.
assbot: Annie Dookhan, former state chemist who mishandled drug evidence, agrees to plead guilty - Metro - The Boston Globe
mircea_popescu: the courts can';t afford it and the das don't want it, but that is immaterial here i'd guess.
mircea_popescu: well it's not so much to invent, babylonians prolly invented it.
mircea_popescu: alternatively, they do all 3 in different gulag stations
mircea_popescu: whichever rocket is not seen... it's where the other rockets land.
chetty: thats a joke? I thought it was a true story!
assbot: 'Two in a Box' Management Works Like Equal Parenting
mircea_popescu: the irrelevant and replaceable parts are the actors, not the agents.
mircea_popescu: there's no need for two guys to come up with ways to test the mdma. one's enough. there may be need for three dudes to implement the testing, however.
assbot: How Intel Grooms Its Leaders The succession formula is downright revolutionary: It picks CEOs years in advance, without drama or surprise. - July 1, 2004
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00403501 / 0.00440115 / 0.00450000 (245 shares, 1.07828173 BTC), 7D: 0.00389999 / 0.00421793 / 0.00450000 (1864 shares, 7.86221338 BTC), 30D: 0.00305500 / 0.00407116 / 0.00540000 (10338 shares, 42.08760370 BTC)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: bitcoin-gunned emacs printer
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 190 Ask: 225 Last Price: 188 24h-Vol: 152k High: 195 Low: 188 VWAP: 192
atcbot: 16k@250 1k@245 43k@225 | 185k@190 47k@188 37k@187
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 542.5, Best ask: 543.18, Bid-ask spread: 0.68000, Last trade: 543.18, 24 hour volume: 24947.54085957, 24 hour low: 524.55, 24 hour high: 572.0, 24 hour vwap: 545.10933068
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 189345.91 in 1995 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -89.92
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00185199 = 0.7408 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: what i want to know is, how's eskimobob's rent a clay oven business working.
the20year: i hear they're aiming for a 0.5% APY
mircea_popescu: "LeGuin did tell a 911 call taker that he intended to occupy the Far North Dallas house as a sovereign nation for himself."
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assbot: The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing "surreal" about it and it's not going away. it will have your throat slit if you persist. love, mp.
chetty: even cave men could say NO
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nubbins`: ;;google sops site:trilema.org
nubbins`: ;;google sops site:trilema.com
nubbins`: there was one of these cases here in nl
nubbins`: the accused was "educated" on the ways of being a freeloader-on-the-land by a mentally ill woman who grew up 4 houses away from me
nubbins`: prior to becoming a life advisor, she'd done stints impersonating a doctor, among other things
assbot: Member of Freeman-on-the-Land movement voices objections - Local - The Telegram
nubbins`: To the judge, she said, “Mr. Supernumerary, why are you still speaking? I’m the only one with standing in this courtroom and have the rights.”
mircea_popescu: problem is all this cost her < a hamburger (which she gets free anyway)
mircea_popescu: they only get THAT free if they find someone to beg or steal it off.
nubbins`: book a courtroom, judge, sheriffs officers, all the paperwork that a dozen or two clerks can grab...
nubbins`: anyway, house arrest and probation
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda why the credit bubble is required for usg : because all extraction only works if it costs more than it extracts
mircea_popescu: every dollar the usg extracts from anything costs it more than a dollar as a precondition of its continued existence.
mircea_popescu: they can only get evicted provided their eviction costs more than it's worth.
chetty: got to keep pumping that debt
mircea_popescu: yeah, the whole story works fine for as long as the expansion of debt remains unrestricted.
mircea_popescu: this creates "assets" for everyone involved, and so...
mircea_popescu: "how great would it be if we cut off everyone's legs, and hired someone to push them around"
mircea_popescu: stalin's thing was reality bound. roosevelt's thing was not.
mircea_popescu: this is why the soviet union collapsed cleanly, whereas the libertard union will not.
mircea_popescu: that's not where it lies. stalin's externality was belly fat
mircea_popescu: in honor of nubbins` typing skills, you can now access trilema as trilema.org trilema.net trilema.me trilema.eu or trilema.com at your option.
mircea_popescu: (cookies won't work if you get them on the wrong domain, so reset if you switch)
thestringpuller: everytime I see cookies won't work i think people are like "i don't like cookies. they aren't delicious"
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
nubbins`: this image came to me as a psd with, no joke, over 150 layers
nubbins`: as i can't fit 150 screens on the press, this is reduced to 4 layers
nubbins`: anyway, clearing through the backlog. 150-ish two-sided cards and another hundred shirts and i'm in the clear for digging into the bitcoin posters
nubbins`: thestringpuller it'd be cumbersome
nubbins`: there were only like 6 or 7 colors in there to begin with. it's just that for some reason she put each stroke in its own layer
thestringpuller: i'm just gonna tell my screenprinting people that you can print 150 colors
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nubbins`: they already need to step up their game if they wanna be as good as us ;D
thestringpuller: the "mythical" 150 screen press serves as a better motivator ;)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let's model this with a game of chess. suppose there's ten of us in a room. nine are amateurs, i am a rated pro.
mircea_popescu: first game starts. i tell my opponent "listen, if you let me play with an extra queen, i
mircea_popescu: now this is actually +ev for the opponent : he probably can't beat a pro on even figures, so giving an extra gueen is not much to give.
nubbins`: in the philippines, they do a lot of peg-and-hole printing, you could theoretically do 150-color designs no sweat
mircea_popescu: however, no pro in the world can beat someone with three queens on the table. and so he consents.
nubbins`: set up like 200-500 shirts at a time on these huge long tables, each shirt has 2 wooden dowels sticking out of the board above it
mircea_popescu: the problem is, it cost me more to win than it's worth. but i won it.
nubbins`: printer takes a squeegee and screen w/ 2 holes on top, slips screen onto first set of dowels, prints, steps to the right, repeat
mircea_popescu: which you know, in some approaches to politics, such as would for instance be favoured by temporary figureheads elected by a democracy, and supported by an unmovable bureaucracy, is the whole of my job.
mircea_popescu: s birth certificate remaining unquestioned, so to speak.
mircea_popescu: by the time people actually figure out the nsa is NOT what they'd buy if they had the money to buy a nsa and were in the nsa market...
assbot: t shirt printing philippines - YouTube
nubbins`: look at the guy removing them, each platen has a big stack of shirts snugged onto it
nubbins`: and they just peel em off as they go
assbot: water based 5 color printing - YouTube
nubbins`: drawback to this method is you can't cure the ink between colors
nubbins`: you can see a guy waving a heat gun around ;0
BingoBoingo: Oh, the Greyhawk NPC is already in Euloria
mod6 is scooping up shiny objects!
mod6: there isn't going to be a screen shot of that ;>
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dpb_reddit: Hi! CryptyLabs LLC will be creating a suite of services to make the use and accessibility of Bitcoins easier for everyone. The first product being created in our suite is trading software, commonly known as bots. We plan to launch in 5 weeks under they CryptyBots brand. We are looking for person(s) who can fill one or both of the following position(s): 1. Software/bot trading developer 2. Backtest Developer Best candidat
BingoBoingo: dpb_reddit: Why are you offering us best Candida? I don't want to itch!
BingoBoingo: dpb_reddit: What is your role in this CryptoLabs business?
dpb_reddit: I am one of the 2 co-founders, currently a 5 man operation - we are launching in 5 weeks
BingoBoingo: That was some seriously unfortuante text clipping on your message though because it seems you are wishing us all nasty fungal itches...
dpb_reddit: So, I set up the business, finances, marketing, put the team together, etc.
BingoBoingo: And why start with trading software if your target audience is the everyman?
dpb_reddit: I have worked at a financial investment group, and have started startups freelanding around - currently have a lot of free time and this is one of my serious projects.
dpb_reddit: The reason we are starting with the trading software is because if someone is new to bitcoins, we are providing the easiest, and best profiting bots out so far - our product is done, but we are looking for more developers and backtest feature
dpb_reddit: Yes, I know how to program, I am also currently creating my own coin as a project. I am involved in cryptos and trade on exchanges.
dpb_reddit: I have also written my own bot, but the bots we are selling are created much more professionally than I can make
dpb_reddit: If anyone is interestd, send an email to hr@cryptybots.com
kakobrekla: so, having some fx experience, i can tell you there just one kind of bots for sale on this planet. the ones that dont work.
dpb_reddit: I will tell you our bots work, and we have about 300 happy customers already.
dpb_reddit: Anyways, I am not here to explain myself, or prove anything, simply trying to hire for a good startup company.
BingoBoingo: dpb_reddit: Still, why not for example make a fork of Armory that isn't spyware or something, what is this with trading bots
BingoBoingo: dpb_reddit: Like sell software that makes using and storing bitcoin a better experience
dpb_reddit: Well there are wallets, pretty easy to store bitcoins. Our bots will be very easy to use, interface is super clean.
BingoBoingo: dpb_reddit: But I mean why introduce risky trading bots as a first product to new users?
dpb_reddit: They are not super risky. They profit very consistently. Of course I cannot guarantee 100% of the time, but it generally does profit well and gets your money back. Backtests can show this. Kakobrekla, please do not be disrespectful, I am being honest here.
dpb_reddit: I am not going to argue with you. I know what I am doing.
mike_c: it's actually honey boo-boo
dpb_reddit: So, is this webchat legitimate? Or do people just question the person trying to hire lol
Flerb: dpb_reddit: yes. We guarantee 100% profit completely
dpb_reddit: Have a nice day everyone, I am done here.
Flerb: Well, we guarantee a very good profit rate
RagnarDanneskjol: @ dpb_reddit - I am a tech recruiter. send me a detailed job requisition to admin@bitrecruiter.com and I'll see what i can do to help
dpb_reddit: Thank you ragnar, I will PM you real quick. Everyone else here seems to like to make up things and make assumptions based off of nothing.
cazalla: dpb_reddit, why not keep it for yourself if it's so good?
kakobrekla: because there is infinite liquidity on btc market cazalla doh
Flerb: Wait, is armory spyware?
RagnarDanneskjol: no - they are mostly right, you prolly have a lot to learn about all this stuff prior to launching a business, so consider this your hazing
mike_c: armory phones home with a hash of your home directory
☟︎ dpb_reddit: I know a lot about this. Why assume I know nothing?
Flerb: Oh as in the pinging to them of your is and uname?
assbot: So you think you're going to start a Bitcoin business, right?
mike_c: well, IP is inherent in the pinging :)
Flerb: They apologised I thought and said they are working on it
Flerb: But yeah, that was pretty stupid
dpb_reddit: I have seen that, very popular on bticointalk
Flerb: I've not seen bticointalk
BingoBoingo: Flerb: Still, it isn't the sort of thing people get to apologize for since... What else are they hiding
mike_c: they aren't even hiding. their position is they have the right to track usage.
BingoBoingo: dpb_reddit: Well seems you haven't learned from that post
dpb_reddit: Why? Because I tried to recruit smoeone on here
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: let the permanent record permanently reflect the permanent fact that the economist is a piece of toilet paper upon which down syndrome patients scribble whatever shit happens through their head. << kablamm!
pete_dushenski: iirc it was dr. down who came up with the term "mongoloid"
pete_dushenski: kinda a slap to genghis and kublah but twas the style at the time
BingoBoingo: lol danielpbarron is now auto naming his referals in his links here from the forumtrolling
los_pantalones: was hoping to chat with that chap and see what he thinks he has
kakobrekla: retard or scammer. doesnt make a diff.
BingoBoingo: los_pantalones: He was refered here by a link danielpbarron left on reddit, who is to say who he actually is?
BingoBoingo: Freenode webchat lets you name people by links
RagnarDanneskjol: doesnt matter to me - long as he has a recruitment budget, which I highly doubt
Flerb: Anyone here bought BTM?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: the chess example, or its life version with debt, etc. is really a play on 'hilbert's hotel' << so it is. for as long as the theoretical properties of aleph-cardinals hold in real sets, well... why not.
Flerb: So how do I get voiced in the future without pming someone?
decimation: it appears that altera is beating xilinix these days "on the street"
RagnarDanneskjol: on the strreet, yes, but any industrial embedded stuff is still xilinx
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I upped him, they followed a link here
assbot: #bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
BingoBoingo: From one of danielpbarron's forum links where he shows people the light and truth
BingoBoingo: His referrals get tagged with a dpb_SiteName username
kakobrekla: only then for the light of truth to be extinguished by kako, upon tunnel entrance
mircea_popescu: <dpb_reddit> So, is this webchat legitimate? Or do people just question the person trying to hire lol << aka "herpyderp I know shit, and don't want to adjust. everyone else must adjust to my stupid head. or else i will say the bad thing!!!1"
mircea_popescu: <Flerb> I've not seen bticointalk << where you from then ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron the prepended dpb is actually fucking clever. how do you do it ? this must be a standard, ima put it on trilema too.
atcbot: 16k@250 2k@245 43k@225 | 185k@190 47k@188 37k@187
mircea_popescu: sounds like the perfect party to host a pretend-win media party.
dignork: mircea_popescu: I tried to leave some fancy comment on Trilema, but php told me I'm unhuman, how did it know?
mircea_popescu: dignork it looks for you to actually load the page, and not fill in too quickly.
BingoBoingo: dignork: Did you take to long to write it?
dignork: ah, yes, possibly i was idling on a page, but then i reloaded, and it still didn't like me
dignork: Oh well, it's actually a feature, made me to reevaluate the fanciness and give up :)