assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.034 = 0.17 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.510049 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.51046496 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 34 @ 0.0353222 = 1.201 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03544 = 0.3544 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03544 = 0.2835 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17689 @ 0.00094158 = 16.6556 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.0414998 = 0.2905 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06899978 = 0.138 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0689898 = 0.138 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27650 @ 0.00093582 = 25.8754 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.04109087 = 0.452 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.0742218 = 0.5196 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.035 = 0.245 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2227 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.035 = 0.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.0742218 = 0.1484 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.035 = 0.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 20 @ 0.00714102 = 0.1428 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.0742218 = 0.3711 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03499 = 0.175 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.04031441 = 0.2016 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.0742218 = 0.3711 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03499 = 0.175 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.04031441 = 0.2016 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.0742218 = 0.3711 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03499 = 0.175 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0403187 = 0.2016 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.0742218 = 0.3711 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.04037566 = 0.2019 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03499 = 0.175 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2227 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.04037566 = 0.1211 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03499 = 0.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00093491 = 11.1254 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.0742218 = 0.1484 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12455 @ 0.00094027 = 11.7111 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06899646 = 0.207 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.0742218 = 0.7422 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.04037566 = 0.4038 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03498998 = 0.3499 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25242 @ 0.00094395 = 23.8272 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03498998 = 0.3149 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.04037555 = 0.3634 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 9 @ 0.0742218 = 0.668 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0045501 = 0.455 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 104 @ 0.00444515 = 0.4623 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.0742218 = 0.1484 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03493404 = 0.4192 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.04012307 = 0.4815 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 12 @ 0.0742218 = 0.8907 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03492897 = 0.3493 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.04000013 = 0.4 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.0742218 = 0.7422 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03492897 = 0.2445 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.04000011 = 0.28 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.0742218 = 0.5196 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03492897 = 0.1397 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.04000002 = 0.16 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2969 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03492897 = 0.1397 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.04 = 0.16 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.0742218 = 0.2969 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03491409 = 0.3491 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03493393 = 0.3493 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03493393 = 0.2445 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19480 @ 0.00094404 = 18.3899 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: hello kakobrekla, raper of assbots, sleeper of long time.
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 50.24715198 BTC
ThickAsThieves: and then i get another link removed from my chain for being a gambling bookie
ozbot: The complexity of life, a triad pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03543998 = 0.319 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03908 = 0.3126 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.0742218 = 0.5938 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03543998 = 0.2835 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.039808 = 0.3981 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.0742218 = 0.5938 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03543998 = 0.2835 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03999 = 0.3199 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 13 @ 0.0742218 = 0.9649 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.03999 = 0.3199 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03543998 = 0.2835 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.0742218 = 0.5938 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.039 = 0.117 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03543998 = 0.1063 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03543998 = 0.1772 BTC [+]
moiety: o its totally aftermewn here, how did that happen
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.03792002 = 0.1138 BTC [-] {2}
moiety: a moment silence please - manul down!
moiety: is this the root of today's happy? (side note -- i think a manul would taste good, most hard to catch things do)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3244 @ 0.00094338 = 3.0603 BTC [-]
moiety: i should taste quite nice then
moiety: i am small, i feel like exercise might kill me
moiety: walking to the kitchen and lifting baking trays is enough
ozbot: KKK Leader Caught With a Black Male Prostitute -- NYMag
moiety: also, sometimes, i am marinated in rose. i think this flavours me
mircea_popescu: Sterling once said he did not like to rent to Hispanics because they "smoke, drink and just hang around the building," and that "Black tenants smell and attract vermin."
mircea_popescu: In December 2010, it was revealed that Sterling had been heckling his own players from his courtside seats, specifically focusing on point guard Baron Davis
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 18 @ 0.03543998 = 0.6379 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5000001 = 1 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.50002 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.491 = 2.455 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: The complexity of life, a triad pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in #blackhatworld on irc.blackhatworld.com :
mircea_popescu: <ghengis_khan> because ive been doing it for 15 years now
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> that's no criteria. obama has been trying to be a president for a while, he still sucks at it.
fluffypony: ok so now I've gone to look at a bunch of pictures of wasps killing spiders
ozbot: Spider Wasp - Entypus unifasciatus - BugGuide.Net
mircea_popescu: mine was an entypus too, im pretty sure, but not exactly this one.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: who is this minerpart dude on the phorumz? him and jimothy seem to have personal grudges
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06754631 = 0.1351 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00450175 = 0.1351 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: people no longer have the common fucking decency to self-identify when they're butthurt
mircea_popescu: "i'm the boyfriend of that chick you picked up at a traffic stop in 2011 ASSHOLE!11"
mircea_popescu: lol fucking spammer mental process. "it's close, only 3 bits of difference!!1"
mircea_popescu: i guess this sort of scum populating the underbelly of the internet that makes up the redditors and wikipedians and bitcoin forum "investors" and quora experts and seo experts and so on and so forth
fluffypony: don't forget Yahoo! Answers answer-ers
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC
ThickAsThieves: another popescu and his friends have some new quantum theory on flow of time
mircea_popescu: "A lot more men than women choose to do seemingly irrational things such as become petty criminals, fly homebuilt helicopters, play video games, and keep tropical fish as pets (98 percent of the attendees at the American Cichlid Association convention that I last attended were male). Should we be surprised that it is mostly men who spend 10 years banging their heads against an equation-filled blackboard in hopes of lan
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves all counted i would estimate there's between 100k and 500k popescus alive today.
mircea_popescu: Having been both a student and teacher at MIT, my personal explanation for men going into science is the following: young men strive to achieve high status among their peer group ; men tend to lack perspective and are unable to step back and ask the question "is this peer group worth impressing?"
ThickAsThieves: well, what makes an all-male peer group worth impressing?
mircea_popescu: but the entire roman republic, pre empire, can be correctly summarized as a set of benches somewhere, and people vying for position on the best bench.
mircea_popescu: all that followed followed from this simple principle, a hundred men wanted to sort out who sits where in the forum.
mircea_popescu: apparently 1mn buys you 2k sq feet of premium housing there.
ThickAsThieves: "Cape Town, has the highest concentration of threatened species of any continental area of equivalent size in the world."
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: see, all the signs are pointing towards one place
fluffypony: well certainly for parts of Cape Town like Camps Bay and Clifton
fluffypony: R10 mil ($1 mil-ish) won't even touch sides there
fluffypony: maybe a very small apartment with limited sea view
fluffypony: and Bishops Court is also crazy expensive
fluffypony: but for the most part R10 mil will get you a pretty huge and elaborate place
ozbot: The "Bishopscourt" of the Northern Suburbs | Parow | Gumtree South Africa | 112194461
ozbot: PAARL: AN ARCHITECTURAL TOUR-DE-FORCE | Paarl | Gumtree South Africa | 112188553
fluffypony: and they're all 4-6 bedrooms with views
fluffypony: you can even get a 30 acre farm near Cape Point with cottages and farm house for that
fluffypony: but still, $1 mil goes a lot further here than the small-ish town my in-laws are in in Germany
ThickAsThieves: you can get get a plain new house for like $180k 2000sqft
ThickAsThieves: and then if you have $1m you can look at the nice waterfront stuff
fluffypony: I wonder what criteria they used for that list
fluffypony: the wife watches this show called Mieten Kaufen Wohnen where Germans go house hunting
fluffypony: every time they have an old retired person who's moving out of Germany they look at houses in Spain or Ibiza or Cape Town
fluffypony: the first few times I watched it it was interesting
fluffypony: and then I was like "wtf, all they do is look at houses"
fluffypony: if they can engineer some tears they do
mircea_popescu: women stuff. it's incomprehensible, but required for a functioning society.
Naphex: "You try and do your best for women, but they all just run us down. Bitches" ;]
fluffypony: the only exception are the Gazorpian women of Gazorpazorp
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0394999 = 0.237 BTC [+]
ozbot: Rick and Morty : Raising Gazorpazorp - Adult Swim Gold Episodes
fluffypony: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:34184ef12f89fa7ea9ea453dfae16553d51d82a2&dn=Rick+and+Morty+S01E07+Raising+Gazorpazorp+HDTV+x264&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.istole.it%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337
ThickAsThieves: [11:50] <sipa> in any case, that sort of thing requires.community consensus, not developer attention
ThickAsThieves: [11:50] <sipa> especially not developers for one client that is hardly used by end users
ThickAsThieves: [11:50] <ThickAsThieves> and more likely implemented in Altcoin (ATC)
ThickAsThieves: [11:51] <ThickAsThieves> bitcoin probably approaching the point where "community consensus" = paralyzation
ThickAsThieves: [11:52] <sipa> perhaps, but i don't see what we can do about it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.70080880 BTC to 7`496 shares, 36030 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
ozbot: What can fit inside a C-5 Galaxy? - Imgur
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00094338 = 10.9904 BTC [-]
fluffypony: must have experience with: Emerging payment systems (example: BITCOIN)
fluffypony: I was hoping for a submarine inside it as I was scrolling
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0353999 = 0.1416 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: fluffypony i guess after my extradition i can STILL make more than the average forum guy.
fluffypony: wow, Coinbase has 1.2 million customer wallets, that's a goxing waiting to happen
fluffypony: saw it mentioned on the redditz, but presumably according to them
fluffypony: I wouldn't be surprised - every time someone buys BTC through them doesn't it create a wallet?
fluffypony: so they've had 1.2 million people use them, not unsurprising
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: no you have to create an account to use them, not based on a cookie'd ID
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4885 = 0.977 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Awstats and stuff pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
fluffypony: I know a bunch of people in the US that think Coinbase is *the* only way to buy Bitcoin
jurov: Bitcoin Bourse welcomes 3100 International Investors and Traders
jurov: ^ got this in everyday's spam from lulzbourse
fluffypony: I know some of the OTC/localbitcoins sellers do the sell with GWallet/wire transfer/cash > deposit into bank -> instant buy on CoinBase, rinse/repeat
fluffypony: till they get screwed by their buy order being cancelled
mircea_popescu: there's no argbument that the us-based vc-scammers are very good at what they do : faking numbers.
mircea_popescu: the whatsapp had "users", airbnb is "a success", coindesk is being pumped by gigaom as "relevant" and coindesk has a lot of users and etc.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, none of this matters in any actual sense.
mircea_popescu: i mean i get it, the average us peon thinks oprah is one of the richest people in the history of the world,
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: coinbase yo, coindesk is the news site
mircea_popescu: fluffypony they're only different if you're into splitting hairs. otherwise, same people.
mircea_popescu: buncha smartasses went wild coupla years ago, made coin*, base, desk, lab, what have you
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform depending on what measure of wealth you use. but if you consider % of extant gold shipped to capitol, the us is way behind england, rome and pretty much every empire in between
mircea_popescu: they did the same exact mistake, much higher scale : got all the gold, pestered the jews,
mircea_popescu: there are people you do not mess with, or else your head.
mircea_popescu: spanish/european jooz were the merchant class pretty much.
mircea_popescu: principally due to the important benefits one derives from... rootless cosmopolitanism,
mircea_popescu: also known as the view that locations have to make you offers, rather than vice-versa.
mircea_popescu: kinda why regressive tax is actually the only way for national/polis stability. it acts as a de facto offer.
benkay: asciilifeform: the synthetic thc stuff is not related to bath salts.
benkay: the brand i've been made aware of by a friend who once smoked three pots (!) all at once (!) is 'spyce'
benkay: important to note that just because a thing claims to be legal in the states is no guarantee of its legality or quality or anything really.
benkay: some claim it does a half-assed job.
benkay: what's wrong with y'all today, logs are mad short.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0345001 = 0.345 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "all 12 men to have walked on the moon were either eldest or only children"
benkay: fluffypony: y'ain't seen me log out yet, eh? my logs ain't the publogs.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: my paternal grandmother is a very traditional, superstitious, short Italian woman (who cooks accordingly). she says my dad was the most successful of her 3 children because "he steal alla of tha calcium from me, he leave none for Daniele and Sonia"
fluffypony: asciilifeform: successful == hasn't married a drunkard and/or hasn't gone to prison
ThickAsThieves: <hearn> integrated Tor support in bitcoinj - merged! \o/
assbot: Voicing Dimsler for 30 minutes.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0345 = 0.1725 BTC [-]
benkay: fluffypony, ThickAsThieves: is there an emoticon for shooting oneself in the head?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0340001 = 0.34 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.034 = 0.102 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 16 @ 0.0394999 = 0.632 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06858841 = 0.1372 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0395 = 0.316 BTC [+] {2}
artifexd: asciilifeform: What is autosnitch? google fails to find anything relevant.
artifexd: Is that a real thing or a joke on the nsa watching/logging everything?
artifexd: Does a gag order require denying such a gag order exists?
mircea_popescu: artifexd it's a real thing. coindesk dumps all its data daily.
mircea_popescu: they're also insecure, and have been hacked repeatedly,
mircea_popescu: meaning any info you upload to them, such as bank acct numbers, id scans, etc, is now held by the usg and by all the hacker groups.
artifexd: What data does coindesk have? Reader's ip addresses? They're a news aggregator.
mircea_popescu: <artifexd> Does a gag order require denying such a gag order exists? << usually.
artifexd: I always assume that the usg has always-on access to my bank accounts. I guess I should start assuming the same with my coinbase activities.
ozbot: Log In - The New York Times
jurov: ^try changing into ?r=0
jurov: continuously updated space junk ftw
jurov: i had an idea (um..okay) of rocket launch that will use energy delivered from groubd via fiber instead of fuel
jurov: as even hair fiber can carry ridiculous power and shpuld be able to carry 100km of itself
jurov: could not find if anyone tried that
jurov: i did, it was under a kiolgram
gribble: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
fluffypony: pankkake kicking ass and taking names on the forum today
fluffypony: I wonder when he'll forgive us and come back
jurov: glass fiber short circuit???
jurov: monomode glass fiber has 10um diameter
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: he's angry that we spoke about altcoins
kakobrekla: fluffypony what was spoken about alts?
jurov: ;;calc 100000*3.14*(0.00001)^2
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
jurov: ;;calc 100000*3.14*(0.00001)**2
jurov: that's about the volume of 100km monomode fiber
fluffypony: kakobrekla: the "please…" line was when he rage-quit
fluffypony: asciilifeform: just use the Web of Thrust
jurov: i don't want to suspend it
ThickAsThieves: just the notion of wanting altcoins to die at all says more about the notioner
jurov: just use it to deliver large part of energy to blast stuff to orvit
benkay: more attainable within our lifetimes, jurov, is the rocket engine that uses ambient oxidizer to mach 5.
jurov: i want someone to explain me what is unattainable here, so far did not find anything.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> i doubt he cares THAT much << i can't imagine either.
mircea_popescu: jurov ever calculated the maximum shear force that can occur in a taut fiber of arbitrary length ?
benkay: ;;google tacoma narrows video
jurov: benkay: it still must carry half of the fuel
benkay: effective iSP is much greater than that of tradiitonal rockets, even exotics like RFNO which have been abandoned due to engineering concerns.
benkay: bonuses in preheating the h2 by cooling incoming air
jurov: mircea_popescu: since the fiber is very light, major factor will be air drag (should be minimal in case first 100km of takeoff is vertical takeoff)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48200001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: when i was younger i used to fuck this young opera singer chick. she did this trick whereby she'd sing into a glas
mircea_popescu: at any arbitrary point 100km worth of air can decide to sing traviata into your fiber and there's jack shit you can do about it.
jurov: neds to be simulated/computed. but i hope for such thin fiber, the air is viscouous enough so that it will dampen it
mircea_popescu: so do the math. calculate the the maximum shear force that can occur in a taut fiber of arbitrary length ?
jurov: like, you can't play guitar with silk threads
artifexd: Reduce the quality control on the fiber productions in order to introduce random variations in the fiber thickness and thus harmonic frequencies.
mircea_popescu: artifexd this leads you to the problem of the rope. do you know the problem of the rope ?
jurov: don't forget the length (and harmonic freq) will change dramamtically over time
mircea_popescu: do you know what was the first industrial product, and the one thing that started the industrial revolution ?
mircea_popescu: it works like this : the quality of the rope (ie, its uniformity) establishes the longest length of rope that can be operated credibly
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06638802 = 0.3319 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: that longest length of rope valueestablishes the largest ship you can build, i nthe age of sail
mircea_popescu: and since the ships use cannons, the larger ship always wins.
mircea_popescu: and so, for about a century, making better rope was more important for each country than making better ipads is today.
mircea_popescu: the first serious capitalist building was... a rope factory.
mircea_popescu: so no, making it resistent to harmonics by making it shittier just means it'll be shittier.
artifexd: I would think that the minimum diameter (given similar materials) would determine the breaking point, not whether the diameter of this cross section is the same as the cross section 100 ft away.
mircea_popescu: otherwise your harmonics problem simply reduces to the new limits
artifexd: Truly random would mean that at some point the diameter would be 0.
jurov: but i insist. make your hair taut
jurov: and try to play it
artifexd: And in others it would be 100km across.
mircea_popescu: artifexd that's excessive, but a cone works well to resolve this problem.
jurov: yes arbitrary length. i'm gertain you have chick to pull it off.
jurov: it will *not* oscillate because the air is viscouous and the fiber too light
mircea_popescu: the weight of the fiber doesn't really have much to do with it
jurov: it does. lightweight fiber gets dampened more than heavier rope
jurov: as i computed above, whole fiber will weight only grams.
jurov: you are telling me something that has few grams and 100km will be shaking violently in air?
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jurov: when you use fiber instead of laser, receiver should be much simpler
jurov: and again, i'm not sure the pull stress on fiber will end up so big. fiber is already in use for to communicate with mother ship
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mircea_popescu: jurov the weight has very little to do with oscillation.
mircea_popescu: the only place where it'd matter would be if the part of wire with high mommentum was lighter than the parts surrounding it. this isn't going to happen.
mircea_popescu: and missiles fail at an impressive rate for "no reason".
jurov: i'm *not* talking about suspended operation
jurov: the fiber is just a means to supply energy to the thruster
jurov: after 100km or whatever it will be snapped off
benkay: mircea_popescu: it's for superheating a real ejection mass
jurov: maybe it can be done in such way it will have enough velocity to switch to ion
mircea_popescu: what the fuck, how many lux are needed to boil a mol of water ?
jurov: but even if it can replace only 30% energy that is otherwise needed to get by burning fuel
jurov: the saving would be disproportionally big
benkay: oh but mp you can do fun things with rectifying the photons and making of the hotness
benkay: or if you're doing something like a phased microwave array around the planet, coating the bottom of the vehicle with a microwave rectifier
jurov: hmm I found 4.0 MW/cm-2 fiber power density
jurov: i see, trying to convert properly
mircea_popescu: and that 4mw figure must be some sort of maximal for shorter distances, i can't imagine putting 4mw through 100km of fiber.
artifexd: Last ATC trade was at 224 satoshis. BingoBoingo pushing up the price?
jurov: ;;calc (4e6*1e6*10000)*(0.00001*0.00001)
gribble: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.0382786 = 0.5742 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: artifexd: nethash is through the roof too. altcoin is just booming in general.
jurov: the result is 4e6 watts? maybe i have an error
jurov: i an't making it in foreseeable time anyway. maybe someone does more thorough calc and writes it up for google to find
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 200 @ 0.0008357 = 0.1671 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: btw someone here recommend i watch the Black Mirror, turns out I already saw it, and had been trying to remember it for a while cuz i liked episode 2
benkay: Naphex: what's your exchange again?
benkay: locals are asking about where to trade these days
benkay: Naphex: any plans for a gpg auth?
Naphex: already started work on implementing gpg otp in the validation server
Naphex: probably in a few weeks, is going to be up
benkay: am i going to have to give you an email as well?
Naphex: yeah - email is bound in. but atleast with gpg auth you get rid of verification emails
benkay: my ideal login flow is to just provide you a key
Naphex: with gpg auth the flow is going to be username/pass -> gpg otp -> logged in
Naphex: as well as gpg otp for withdrawals
Naphex: registration is just username /password /email
Naphex: gpg otp will be set up after in security
benkay: i imagine the u/p requirement is baked in pretty hard by your framework?
Naphex: not really, just in the frontend
Naphex: backend is just uuid / secret + otp choice (default email otp without yubi and soon gpg)
Naphex: but its baked in into frontend so .. :p
decimation: why can't you replace the username/password pair with a hash of the public key?
Naphex: you can do it yourself if you set up an api key
Naphex: but the website is meant too ease up stuff for regular folks
Naphex: you set up an API key and you can just use that
Naphex: withdrawals are blocked from the API atm, so withdrawals only from frontend
Naphex: OHCL-V Ticker Plant and Payments API+Widgets coming soon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72159 @ 0.00094597 = 68.2602 BTC [+] {4}
benkay: Naphex: but can I do all my API calls encrypted to your pubkey?
benkay: only halfway joking. but srsly, I want an MPEx interface to my exchange.
jurov: benkay if you really do, i'm having a few serious words with you then
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: speaking of, when are we expecting mpif?
bitcoinpete: i saw that i brought in some new blood yesterday :)
benkay: jurov: all i mean is that i want to interact with anything btc-related with encrypted messages, and ssl does not count.
jurov: oh okay. because i got goosebumps that you want it complete with quoted integers, eventually-consistent statements and whatnot
jurov: oh and i forgot "you know what you did" balance changes
jurov: but since i am not providing api for coinbr, i shall prolly shut up
fluffypony: jurov: you must fix the copyright at the bottom of the site btw
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.06884761 = 1.377 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06884761 = 0.6885 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 115 @ 0.06884761 = 7.9175 BTC [+]
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bitcoinpete: adam levine offered to re-publish my article on ltb's blog
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fluffypony: On Friday, the Ohio Department of Public Safety ruled that "Bitcoin cannot be accepted as payment for alcohol in the State of Ohio."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18608 @ 0.00094788 = 17.6382 BTC [+]
fluffypony: awwww yisss....new vanity address finished
bitcoinpete: i sent levine an address and he posted his own address anyways
fluffypony: "please tip the author...who wasn't me..."
cazalla: bitcoinpete: looks like you might get those ltbcoins afterall
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mircea_popescu: not a bad visual, seeing how little reddit comprehends of numbers
benkay: i've always used assettes
fluffypony: wow Yahoo's actually marginally profitable still
fluffypony: when you look at that visual MS and Apple are the kings in terms of turning a profit, Google to a lesser degree
benkay: bitcoinpete u gon make me cry b
bitcoinpete: benkay: let them out, it's part of the healing process
dub: benkay: you should fix you comments section
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yeah it puts stuff into perspective
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mircea_popescu: ever since the 90s, various pompous idiots du jour have been rehashing thins nonsense about "how bad trolls are".
mircea_popescu: an exact mirroring of the infinite hitpoints problem : society strictly exists because of the trolls.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, there's an infinite supply of pompous idiots, and an infinite supply of fecal "consensus" these shitheads readily adhere to.
mircea_popescu: so please, everyone with half a brain cell : if you've not trolled someone this week, do so.
mircea_popescu: preferably someone with a large ideological support structure : a feminist, a race warrior, something.
fluffypony: I've been trolling bitcointalk hard, does that count?
dub: tbh by looking at bitcointalk you are being trolled so, no
mircea_popescu: just as long as he's not "sharing" or w/e bullshit the bovines engage in.
dub: i'd suggest by his handle that he'll never get to play ata ll
dub: how did gypsycon go anyway?
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dub: nothing at all, throwin up brony gang signs is perfectly normal, like an anime forum avatar
mircea_popescu: so guy's looking like a brony. you figure that hurts ?
dub: it doesnt hurt me but it puts him in the same bucket as ukyo
dub: i didnt think it was legal for a 13 y/o tp marry in texas
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06767001 = 0.1353 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Voicing bawse for 30 minutes.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0349999 = 0.35 BTC [+]
dub: a) the gender of that thing is unclear b) looks like a shitty 'your message here' generator things
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0349999 = 0.35 BTC [+]
dub: that is shopped I can tell by the pixels and etcetc
mircea_popescu: and besides, women have dogchins all the time. doesn't mean they're trannies.
dub: true and not much room for dick in dem pants
dub: I thought of you while in cambodia mp
dub: interesting study of the nigger dilemna there, a generation ago all the smart people were removed
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dub: khmer rouge etc, but they were subjugated long before that and still are
dub: they just don't seem to have any means to improve, under the 'murica way type bullshit sentiment capitalism relies on
mircea_popescu: i really have no fucking sympathy for peoples that failed to protect their elites.
dub: one of my guides was a teenage guy with some english, works 7 days a week for a french operated tour for 5 months to pay for 1 month of 1 hour a day of schooling
dub: thats almost all of the kids
dub: thats not how it is supposed to work
dub: he's supposed to be able to get out right?
dub: his parents survived meaning they farm rice
dub: probably only enough to sustain their 9 kids
mircea_popescu: his parents failed to die fighting pol pot to protect the cool people of cambodia
mircea_popescu: which means their kid now has to depend on random people's charity.
mircea_popescu: sucks for him, too, seeing how the random people in a position to be charitable are trained not to be.
dub: they probably fought for pol pot, it was a chinese backed communist coup
mircea_popescu: so then the kid definitely should not be able to get out.
dub: (which the UN and international community continued to back 20 years after the genocide)
mircea_popescu: which is why rather than paying tax you'd be better off picking kids off the street in cambodia
dub: the majority of his peers have inhereted their parents placitude meaning he's isolated, he can't build useful networks or get much help from anyone
dub: they also suffer the usual religious crippling with extra helpings of ancient superstition
dub: and now their former overlords (frenchies) or western capitalists own all the means of production and basically work the native population to death
mircea_popescu: that works in a different sort of society, one that's not made out of fuckwits.
mircea_popescu: in this kids' case, he'll have to find a master. a good one.
dub: the kid was not exceptional
ozbot: Some basic discussion of charity pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
benkay: dub: what comments section, yo?
dub: so, any auxillary factor or guradian angel bullshit aside, they are fucked
dub: benkay: ur blawg, i gave you my blog commenting virginity and you snubbed me
benkay: comments work, just email it in
benkay: what is my email broken too?
dub: clearly in several ways
dub: it didnt accept smtp at first so I used some remailer
benkay: what are you going on about
dub: mp: point is the 'any man can claw his way north' politics that lets most people sleep an night is clearly bunk here
benkay: nobody's clawing their way north, speshully in teh us
dub: yes google don't grok smtp
dub: checed spam maybe? I don't care enough to reauthor
dub: it was about why +m is retarded
benkay: encrypted tends to make it through uninterdicted
benkay: yup right there in spam
dub: one way to filter comment spam I guess
mircea_popescu: dub claw his way north, aye, but not as far as he feels like.
assbot: Voicing SatoshiJack for 30 minutes.
dub: I couldnt at the time :)
dub: he'll post it, tl;dr its a dumb way to fix spam but a coll experiment in circle jerks
ThickAsThieves: not sure how to prove it, but it does seem we've had more frequent and better new users show up
ozbot: F.MPIF last @0.00000000
mircea_popescu: pls to check it out, ima sign it if nobody finds typos.
mircea_popescu: dub it's not really intended to fight spam. it's intended to foster good quality circle jerking.
mircea_popescu: the sort that then stomps on the balls of everyone else and sends them to work in the mines of cambodia
mircea_popescu: i swear, twitter has got the art and science of making it look like shit happened when nothing occured down to a fine point.
dub: ThickAsThieves: indistinguishable from removing the casual derptroll imo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.0349998 = 0.455 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it's like... "198470598094385 updates!!11" then you look... three people favourited five things.
dub: ThickAsThieves: which is easily achieved with ops
fluffypony: people hang around and first figure out "ohey I can't talk"
mircea_popescu: dub the impersonality of it is quite important. people are otherwise too inclined to figure " ican't talk because x is mean"
fluffypony: instead of the normal join -> derp -> "hey here's a link to my IPO for AwesomeCasino 3.9"
mircea_popescu: According to court documents, the second amended Joint Chapter 11 Plan, approved on December 13, 2013 allows for the liquidation of hundreds of billions of dollars worth of homeowners’ mortgages to legendary business billionaire magnate—the fourth richest man in the world, according to Forbes, Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway, Inc. and Ocwen Loan Servicing, L.L.C.
mircea_popescu: The bankruptcy terms allows Berkshire Hathaway and Ocwen to purchase over $400 billion worth of mortgages and RMBS trusts for less than $5 billion. Once these mortgages are sold, Berkshire Hathaway and Ocwen will be bankruptcy remote. That means that once the mortgage assets are sold to them, American homeowners, like Morse, will not be able to obtain, through discovery, in judicial proceedings, the documents pertainin
mircea_popescu: g to their mortgages to determine if there is an issue with their property’s chain of title or verify if there is a free, clear and legally traceable ownership of their homes.
mircea_popescu: In effect, mortgage records of millions of American homeowners would be destroyed.
mircea_popescu: this entire fannie and freddie saga is becoming gnarlier each year.
assbot: Voicing Mats_cd03 for 30 minutes.
dub: im in a channel where everyone is usually oped, has a similar effect on SNR, people assume no bullshit will fly
dub: in fact, in ~15 years a cant recal seeing anyone kicked
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: 2.2 (c) - one year should be hyphenated
fluffypony: Mats_cd03: you should take that offer, sounds great and not rapey
dub: its on a network with no services and most of the people have 1 or 2 degrees RL separation, all net eng types
dub: bigger than that, used to regularly produce more content than here
mircea_popescu: anyway. this thing is freely and amply advertised. your shyness in naming the other clearly makes the point :
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: snr
assbot: Voicing bawse for 30 minutes.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: otherwise it looks all good
mircea_popescu: im not hyphenating any one years, what is this, britain ?
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fluffypony: mircea_popescu: pfffft, then you should go and change authorised to authorized :-P
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 227 @ 0.00445268 = 1.0108 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: iceland electricity is moar eco friendly than your electricity
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03400064 = 0.34 BTC [-]
jurov 's on 53% nuclear, 13% renewable
assbot: Voicing Ken` for 30 minutes.
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0349998 = 0.245 BTC [+]
Ken`: mircea_popescu: I trade options (US stock market) and bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0349999 = 0.245 BTC [+]
Ken`: looks like a copy of zerohedge at first glance
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.0409999 = 0.451 BTC [+]
ozbot: “Philanthropy.” Not Power. | When Bitcoin Met Pete
bitcoinpete: and with that, i be off to dinner. cheers.
ThickAsThieves: just a man wanting to live in a world where his dick can bulge free?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.0742218 = 0.3711 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "as much as 69 percent of extra virgin olive oil in the US is substandard"
mike_c: "The named individual is in fact at the time of this agreement the sole proprietor and operator of both named corporations,"
mike_c: sounds odd when disucussing pif
mircea_popescu: yeah maybe not the best wording. still, i am controlling both things, and so forth.
mike_c: yes, just made me scratch my head for a second, and scroll back up to see if pif was a corporation.
mike_c: idk. 'sole proprietor' and 'public corporation' are mutually exclusive, no?
mike_c: sole proprietor means you get all the money.
mike_c: it does not say public corporation. but you are issuing shares.
ozbot: F.MPIF last @0.00000000
mike_c: perhaps "The named individual is in fact at the time of this agreement the sole proprietor of MPIF and the operator of MPEx, and they were represented..."
mike_c: but, other than that nitpick the contract read fine to me.
mircea_popescu: yeah, it's misstated but i can't see what exactly it'd impact
benkay: dub i pub'd your comment
mircea_popescu: the irony here being that his comment about moderation ended up in spam
benkay: a few suggestions on +m:
benkay: - some mechanism for new blood to signal they'd like voice
mircea_popescu: benkay do i have to install some sort of special software to see these comments ?
mircea_popescu: benkay why should they signal ? if anyone sees some interesting looking new people they can voice them.
benkay: so that when i'm on a roaming connection i can get everyone's attention for the !up at once lol
assbot: Voicing Lee- for 30 minutes.
assbot: Really, mircea_popescu?
benkay: dun always take keys into hostile turf tho
kakobrekla: but you could code your bnc to accept some disposable sekrit to !up you remotley
benkay: some days i'm just hopping onto an available web client and don't feel like iterating through the list of people i know in the chan manually to get upped
Duffer1: if anyone needs ups i'm usually lurking pm me
benkay: that erodes even more of IRC's vaunted flexibility, kakobrekla .
dub: yep, I was in singapore airport yesterday tried to get someones attention in here, no dice
dub: fuck if Im taking keys to somewhere my bank balance alone is more than 1000 people earn in their lifetime
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 149 @ 0.00755 = 1.125 BTC [-] {4}
benkay: dub dear could i beg a favor
benkay: wouldja be so kind as to clearsign that comment?
dub: its kinda a pita but ok
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 50 @ 0.00755 = 0.3775 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0345 = 0.1035 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.0742218 = 0.1484 BTC [-]
dub: gribble needs that widget
Duffer1: "To be an investor you simply need to invest money. There is no minimum or qualifications like you imagine." - Jimmothy
dub: well no, but a gribble signed pastebin oslt
Duffer1: is there bitcointalk !bash?
mike_c: mod6 made a bot that lives in #altcoin. does a lot of cool atc stats.
Duffer1: god why do i find that depressing
dub: Duffer1: don't read anything else that mouthbreather fingerfarts then he's 100$ retarded
benkay: a hundred dollars retarded!
danielpbarron: hah, finally caught up with reading the scroll back; time for dinner :Q
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03450458 = 0.1035 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 23 @ 0.03400009 = 0.782 BTC [-] {5}