mircea_popescu sneers at the monster-of-the-week flying-around-space-in-our-livingroom-watching-tv hey-look-it-s-a-model entertainment
teward: oh dear, netflix and my firewall are not cooperating... and I was just getting into the third season of DS9... >.>
teward disappears to fix the firewall rules
sexysaffron: oh star trek is all about interpersonal relationships and moral dilemas!
teward: except the last couple seasons of DS9, that's all about war and combat and defeating the dominion invaders
teward: and... interpersonal relationships and moral dilemmas.
sexysaffron: haven't finished ds9 yet, haven't had the strength to sit through it
mircea_popescu sneers at interpersonal relationships and moral dilemmas!!1
teward: also, good advice to everyone: don't ever set your computer that watches netflix to a bandwidth-restricted, rate-limit-triggering firewall subnet...
mthreat: data (the android) banged tasha yar. there's your interpersonal relationship
teward: it causes netflix to stop working after a while
teward: mircea_popescu, um... me?
teward has a virtual cluster on his own network, plus three other VLANs
teward: well, subnets actually, not VLANs
mircea_popescu: mthreat did he actually have the gear or did they have to upgrade him ?
mthreat: he said he was fully functional. standby for youtube clip
teward: mircea_popescu, i'm also kinda paranoid, i rate-limit the non-priority subnets so I don't overuse all my pipe
mircea_popescu: teward the internet is like a truck you know, you can just put more on it.
teward: and those other nets, except the priority and wifi subnets, are super locked down. (those two are not locked down as much but are locked down)
assbot: Data is fully functional - YouTube
teward: mircea_popescu, sure... if you want to pay thousands a month for a 1gig symmetric pipe, or $850 a month for a 100meg symmetric pipe
teward: still costly, but not out of my budget
mircea_popescu: this yar chick has some very strange bed chat. being five ?! surviving ?!
sexysaffron: I thought I was supposed to be able to voice myself somehow?
mthreat: mircea_popescu: in that episode they were all drunk because of something, i forget what
assbot: nam-shub +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
gribble: Nick 'sexysaffron', with hostmask 'sexysaffron!8717c805@gateway/web/freenode/ip.135.23.200.5', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: sexysaffron if you identify with gribble you can then pm assbot !up
gribble: Nick 'sexysaffron', with hostmask 'sexysaffron!8717c805@gateway/web/freenode/ip.135.23.200.5', is not identified.
gribble: (bcauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered with the bot with a bitcoin address for this to work. You will be given a random passphrase to sign with your address, and submit to the bot with the 'bcverify' command. Your passphrase will expire within 10 minutes.
mthreat: ask teward, he's seen it 10 times :)
gribble: (bcauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered with the bot with a bitcoin address for this to work. You will be given a random passphrase to sign with your address, and submit to the bot with the 'bcverify' command. Your passphrase will expire within 10 minutes.
gribble: Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
teward: ;;gpg info sexysaffron
gribble: Request successful for user sexy_saffron, hostmask sexysaffron!8717c805@gateway/web/freenode/ip.135.23.200.5. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:187b08cf3e5bf4be1abc4ebcc21994f31d90b25e90c56b60bbafa3d9
nam-shub: Doesn't anyone here want to voice up to say how sexist this whole conversation has been? Who is here to speak for the Merckle and Yellen? Don't they deserve a video too?
sexysaffron: ;;bcverify HIQzBEFMPITBKHa/iQn7cl8p1yHxY7V5s/pdYo3FJENAH8m6hxkfFrDS/zXcr0TI3US30j/daFtcGBmjLBmMVvc=
gribble: Error: Signature verification failed.
mike_c: yellen prints the funny money
teward: ;;bcauth TheLordOfTime
gribble: Request successful for user TheLordOfTime, hostmask teward!LordOfTime@ubuntu/member/teward. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:7369448cd56d66dd532ee02c584942a080e7aa036426128e9edb4e76
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31750 @ 0.00079749 = 25.3203 BTC [-] {2}
sexysaffron: I'm pretty sure I used the right address, I'll try again
teward: don'g forget its that entire string, sexysaffron :)
teward: don't forget its that entire string, sexysaffron :)
teward: ;;gpg info sexy_saffron
gribble: User 'sexy_saffron', with keyid None, fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1KGkZ1cAbsKH3rQNBoxe8N4KU9DBkfz1KT, registered on Fri Jul 4 17:46:41 2014, last authed on Fri Jul 4 17:46:41 2014.
http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=sexy_saffron . Currently not authenticated.
nam-shub: yes, sorry for the spelling I don't speak Japanese.
mircea_popescu: nam-shub well how the hell do they deserve videos too, they don't write blogs i read.
sexysaffron: ;;bcverify HP3SL7vFHrSKOlCsyca3HRNn6NL5kgrpq5HGq0eUZwQ+UpQPOqCWj6TUwXTW14twT9CKSof+Bi7CXBrAABUvAtk=
gribble: You are now authenticated for user 'sexy_saffron' with address 1KGkZ1cAbsKH3rQNBoxe8N4KU9DBkfz1KT
mircea_popescu: actually... afaik there's more women presidents of countries
gribble: You know the answer better than I.
mircea_popescu: well of course i do, being the mp and all. nevertheless!
mircea_popescu: anyway, which other great people did we want invited here ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe a couple times quite a while back.
assbot: Google bans porn in ads | Ars Technica
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.1993135 = 0.5979 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: * teward has quit (Quit: ERROR: Segmentation Fault in ZNC: admin.so: 56)
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00079728 = 7.8133 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48250 @ 0.00079715 = 38.4625 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 11 @ 0.13886362 = 1.5275 BTC [+] {5}
TheNewDeal: ;;later tell bitcoinpete hey would you want to give me a rating for that bitbet deal
assbot: Old school: I work in DOS for an entire day | Ars Technica
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19720 @ 0.00079709 = 15.7186 BTC [-]
gribble: Current Blocks: 309546 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 917 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 9 hours, 54 minutes, and 7 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16693953285.3 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.74031
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56300 @ 0.00079505 = 44.7613 BTC [-] {4}
[]bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "World Cup top scorer to net > 7"
http://bitbet.us/bet/905/ Odds: 23(Y):77(N) by coin, 43(Y):57(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.19546549 BTC. Current weight: 13,597.
assbot: Game 16 - Death 5244 Life 4756 - War of Life
assbot: BitBet - Brazil beats Germany :: 0.28 B (58%) on Yes, 0.2 B (42%) on No | closing in 1 day 22 hours | weight: 70`291 (100`000 to 10`000)
mike_c: TheNewDeal: probably cuz the last germany bet pulled in 13 BTC in like an hour.
artifexd: The current high scorer is James Rodriguez with 6 goals. He played for Colombia who is now out. The next is Muller from Germany with 4. They're playing Brazil next.
artifexd: In other words, betting no on 905 is pretty safe now.
assbot: BitBet - Germany to enter final in World Cup 2014 :: 0.1 B (31%) on Yes, 0.22 B (69%) on No | closed 1 day 1 hour ago
assbot: BitBet - World Cup 2014: Germany to net more than 7 goals :: 5.84 B (92%) on Yes, 0.52 B (8%) on No | closed 5 days 22 hours ago
assbot: BitBet - Germany will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 2.7 B (95%) on Yes, 0.13 B (5%) on No | closed 1 week 4 days ago
assbot: BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 7.71 B (57%) on Yes, 5.75 B (43%) on No | closed 2 days 6 hours ago
cazalla: artifexd: plus Neymar is out, he had 4
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artifexd: Messi (Argentina) is still playing and has 4 as well. But in order for 905 to resolve as yes, one of them will have to score another 4 goals. Unlikely, in my opinion.
cazalla: i bet no a few times but it's still a chance if it's a Germany v Argentina final, which is my guess
artifexd: I don't think Germany will pass Brazil. I'd like to see Germany win, but I doubt it.
artifexd: It isn't that I think Brazil is a better team. They're not. I think the refs are paid off.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13451 @ 0.00079436 = 10.6849 BTC [-]
dub: BingoBoingo: I like how the journalist is a butthurt creditor too
BingoBoingo: dub: Funny how this works? Most "Bitcoin Journalism" being carried out by either Butthurt creditors or soon to be Butthurt creditors.
decimation: asciilifeform : based on your hostname I assume you have a comcast "business" account to get 100 meg
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00079298 = 3.9649 BTC [-]
decimation: I think the fios is actually time-multiplexed at the box in the ground near your house somewhere
decimation: it's nice to have the peak capacity when you want it though
decimation: mainly because I am unwilling to hand verizon or comcast a single penny if I can avoid it
decimation: I had a discussion with a guy who was high up in PEPCO once about the "mass panic" after the power outages after the "derecho" storm
decimation: I asked if their plan was to simply wait until everyone forgets about the situation and do nothing, and he confirmed that was the case
decimation: there was a TV show where they sampled the Potomac water going into the washington water system intake, and then sampled it going out
decimation: there were many strange organics that were hardly attenuated by the "purification" process
decimation: yeah, mostly that plus some industrial stuff
decimation: wrt to the HMMWV: you were able to buy the whole truck for $700? Or just the radio?
decimation: you would probably have to pay golden toliet prices for the parts
decimation: it was probably some junk in the DC armory that they parked somewhere "for security" or whatever
decimation: but it does reveal many truths about the way USG actually works, rather than the way everyone pretend it works
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00079298 = 18.5954 BTC [-]
decimation: oh I meant the truck in the picture, not the one you were offered
decimation: walking around DC during a "crisis" always turns up interesting bits of security hardware
decimation: I recall (in the 90's!) when you could walk into the capitol any time you wished with a metal detector screen
decimation: Back then you could also freely come and go to the mall during the 4th
decimation: my biggest objection to the security theater is that it always devolves into a war on anything unusual
decimation: "why are you carrying a non-functional computer onto the airplane sir"? "because I want to use it for parts"
decimation: if you just want to watch planes land, or trains go by, or boats sail past, like people over the centuries have done, you are suspicious
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00079436 = 15.8078 BTC [+]
assbot: Chinese woman charged in trade secrets theft case - SFGate
assbot: Bay Area inside trader, Winifred Jiau, convicted - SFGate
BingoBoingo: msnaughtykitty: Yeah, but mircea_popescu is offline atm it seems
BingoBoingo: msnaughtykitty: Well he's on most of the time. If you linger long enough he'll stop by
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00079299 = 10.864 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 923 @ 0.00171257 = 1.5807 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00079342 = 8.926 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00079298 = 19.0315 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21918 @ 0.00079683 = 17.4649 BTC [+] {2}
[]bot: Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "Facebook Myspace'd"
http://bitbet.us/bet/771/ Odds: 24(Y):76(N) by coin, 31(Y):69(N) by weight. Total bet: 20.64011533 BTC. Current weight: 61,005.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 125 @ 0.03587814 = 4.4848 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00079864 = 7.3475 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24982 @ 0.00079864 = 19.9516 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34058 @ 0.00079296 = 27.0066 BTC [-] {2}
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 458763.69 in 1678 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -41.57
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 457 @ 0.00171612 = 0.7843 BTC [+]
assbot: The Problem of Bitcoin Journalism as practiced : Bitcoin
punkman just mailed all the fuckers that owe him money
punkman: time to work on something fun now
assbot: Police Using Dogs To Sniff Out Computer Memory - Slashdot
punkman: amazing dog, can sniff out child porn
gribble: Current Blocks: 309590 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 873 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 1 hour, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16753237297.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.38781
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3391 @ 0.00079555 = 2.6977 BTC [+]
FabianB: ;;ticker --currency eur --last
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 632.0, vol: 2166.92497490 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 626.1, vol: 1786.47265 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 634.86, vol: 1996.82286398 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 631.913672, vol: 3514.76070000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 638.973, vol: 2.78219549 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 626.68367188, vol: 14.30294288 | Volume-weighted last average: 631.452720935
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00079603 = 10.5076 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42200 @ 0.00079837 = 33.6912 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: The Pitchforks Are Coming For Us Plutocrats - Nick Hanauer - POLITICO Magazine
BingoBoingo: Welcome back to -assets mircea_popescu, you missed potential tits from <msnaughtykitty> they should be back sometime soon
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 225 Ask: 275 Last Price: 225 24h-Vol: 38k High: 226 Low: 225 VWAP: 225
punkman: "The folks like us at the top have always told those at the bottom that our respective positions are righteous and good for all. Historically, we called that divine right."
punkman: "What nonsense this is. Am I really such a superior person? Do I belong at the center of the moral as well as economic universe? Do you?"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27813 @ 0.00079603 = 22.14 BTC [-]
punkman: is that like pre-emptive cocksucking to appease the pitchfork wielders?
mircea_popescu: but i would guess it's just some schmuck that realises he doesn't belong up there, and wants to move into a subordinate position in teh new republic. which... of course.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, "Return to merchant and try a different payment method. We are not able to process your payment using your PayPal account at this time. Please return to the merchant's website and try using a different payment method (if available)."
mircea_popescu: do you suppose merchant had his pp acct locked since last month?
punkman: sounds like the problem is with your pp account
mircea_popescu: it's a ~15 yo verified business acct. and it only failed one payment in a batch.
assbot: Girl wants TLP on #bitcoin-assets - YouTube
mircea_popescu: artifexd: I don't think Germany will pass Brazil. I'd like to see Germany win, but I doubt it. << get out, germany has like the best team at wc.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: unrelated - nick szabo is back? << he is ? then he;'s next!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: dub: Funny how this works? Most "Bitcoin Journalism" being carried out by either Butthurt creditors or soon to be Butthurt creditors. << dude with the golden mouth.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the gods of the bash will smite thee at this rate
jurov: /smite BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: decimation: mainly because I am unwilling to hand verizon or comcast a single penny if I can avoid it << so what, using diy internets ?
mircea_popescu: decimation: my biggest objection to the security theater is that it always devolves into a war on anything unusual << i think that's everyone's objection.
mircea_popescu: kinda why only doomed societies can significantly rely on security theater. it fundamentally relies on the productive parts of society having long left.
chetty: security theater is a giant sucking on time/resources
mircea_popescu: mother sleeping with its baby is also giant sucking on time/resources.
mircea_popescu: ahahah at "conspiracy to steal trade secrets from U.S. seed corn companies."
mircea_popescu: so i'm supposed to believe corn companies have secrets worth stealing now ?
BingoBoingo: I imagine in the new republic Security Theater will be a place people go to in order to watch follies of the failed republic reenacted
mircea_popescu: "The loss to a U.S. seed corn manufacturer of a patented seed line is a minimum of $30 million to $40 million and from five to eight years of research time, Klinefeldt said."
mircea_popescu: chick is married to a guy worth 1.5 bn, spends her time stealing crap not really worth 30mn.
jurov: these dudes dream of patenting whole food supply
mircea_popescu: obviously. the bonus of a "stable" state is rent seeking.
mircea_popescu: "But the problem isnt that we have inequality. Some inequality is intrinsic to any high-functioning capitalist economy. The problem is that inequality is at historically high levels and getting worse every day."
mircea_popescu: fuck you lol. as long as most people can afford internet, and running water, inequality is way way way too low.
mircea_popescu: as a rule of thumb, 80% of the population must eat when it can, not when it wants. that's NORMAL levels of inequality.
chetty: a lot of Detroit had water shut off, must be getting there
mircea_popescu: but i mean, this "inequality" bs is just about to pass "global warming" in idiocy.
mircea_popescu: what am i supposed to believe random rich guy with the copy skils of a politico staff writer is writing copy for politico ?
mircea_popescu: "And also like you, I have been rewarded obscenely for my success, with a life that the other 99.99 percent of Americans cant even imagine. Multiple homes, my own plane, etc., etc. You know what Im talking about."
mircea_popescu: yeah, i know what he WANTS to be talking about. the problem is that he has no idea what he's talking about.
mircea_popescu: every fucktard with a college loan "looking to start a family" owns "multiple homes". out of which he and the girl will move out, to save on the rent.
chetty: marketwatch had piece about what actual rich people do, one thing they noted is that most of them you would never know because they dont live that way
mircea_popescu: this is one direct result of the insufficient inequality in the us and especially europe.
chetty: (well not wasting money is how a lot of people get to be rich ..oh and companies do well)
mircea_popescu: for that matter, i would wish to point out that i have not been rewarded obscenely for my success. for one thing, i have not "been rewarded". i rewarded myself. for the other thing, the only obscene part in all of this is that some schmuck dares write idiotic copy for politico instead of begging to shine my shoes.
mircea_popescu: fucktarded kids think if they drooled on textbooks for four years the useless bulshit they learned is going to work, and ima let passive mood stick because what, rich people are stupid, social studies dorks are made to rule the world ?
chetty: well the point of that crap is really to try and be sure the mob won't come after you, because you care!!!
chetty: Note:doing anything is crass, but you must sound like you care!
mircea_popescu: the point of that crap is to make the mob think that it still has power.
mircea_popescu: you realise that shit isn't being read by the people it purports to address.
mircea_popescu: the entire thing is an implementation of mother "beating" the chair her stupid kid boinked his head on.
Mats_cd03: those it purports to address can barely read.
chetty: nope, just by other people wishing they had written it
chetty: ha, too damn many voices = cacophony
mircea_popescu: the caco in the phony comes from the shit in their heads.
mircea_popescu: somehow everyone speaking at the same time results in cacophony but nevertheless "crowdsourcing". isn't this a bit dissonant ?
Mats_cd03: i am not impressed with his arguments
chetty: well crowdsourcing seems to be a pretty natural response to over regulation
Mats_cd03: .hk is a twister of inequality...one of the safest metros in the world
mircea_popescu: chetty yes, compared to organised stupidity, disorganised stupidity works better.
Mats_cd03: the peasants can be properly coerced into peace, history is that obvious
mircea_popescu: vlad the impaler can keep the peace in the middle of a warzone. john the stupid can't keep peace on an island.
mircea_popescu: o look, they don't call it john the stupid in english ? wtf is this lackland bs.
atcbot: 722@279 1k@278 3k@275 | 232k@225 1M@224 12k@221
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47900 @ 0.00079865 = 38.2553 BTC [+]
chetty: oh btc on waroflife :)
assbot: The answer lies in the sewers - Pastebin.com
davout: jurov: so apparently dotcoin has been sent to the rape cage
assbot: Bitcoin : les gendarmes dmantlent une plateforme en France - Le Point
davout: i'm not sure it is dotcoin, but the cities and stupidity do match
mircea_popescu: "Slaves, Sewers and Captain Aguilera: Racism, colonialism and sexism in the Mentality of the Nationalist Officer Corps" asciilifeform i suspect this is going to be a little lopsided a retelling.
pankkake: 3 people? and they're not consistent on the cities
mircea_popescu: L'opération a été menée "dans le cadre d'une information ouverte notamment pour exercice illégal d'opérations de banque, offre de paris ou jeux d'argent et de hasard en ligne et travail dissimulé",
mircea_popescu: "Les mis en cause étaient l'administrateur de ce site illégal, sa compagne et l'un de ses fournisseurs, lesquels ont été placés en garde à vue",
mircea_popescu: so translation, "french govt wanting to keep up with the us, seizes 400 btc from a guy, his gf and... well... they're french so a third guy"
davout: pankkake: whaddaya mean they're not consistent? nice does match with dotcoin
pankkake: header has "Cannes, Nice, Toulouse et Bruxelles. "
mircea_popescu: Hatreds were intensified during the right-wing campaign for the elections of
mircea_popescu: February 1936 which prophesied that left-wing victory would mean uncontrolled looting and
davout: mircea_popescu: "they're french so a third guy" <<< lel
davout: bitcoinbourse.eu is still online tho
mircea_popescu: i wonder how come us socialists don't have this on the agenda btw ? pretty much the only way they could talk interest to the people politico is trying to talk to is by making harems the law of the land.
assbot: Nouvelle plainte contre Google pour abus de position dominante - Actualit Abondance
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.0134 = 0.536 BTC [+]
pankkake: feminists took over the left, otherwise the "equal access to sex" might have existed
pankkake: that doesn't sound very socialist
mircea_popescu: the way socialism works in practice is making all the women of a generation into a college, and give common ownership over them to a selection of men.
mircea_popescu: "After the capture of Almendralejo, one thousand prisoners were shot including one hundred women.8 After the shootings, the remaining women were raped." << lol the righties were trying for it.
mircea_popescu: pankkake it's a midway solution : the women get the socialism they wanted, being all equal, and in this equality a little above the average from before. nobody cares about the betas anyway, and the actual males that actually matter don't mind the arrangement so much.
chetty: <mircea_popescu> i wonder how come us socialists don't have this on the agenda btw ? pretty much the only way they could talk interest to the people politico is trying to talk to is by making harems the law of the land.//only works if women cant vote
mircea_popescu: it's the arab socialism, which works in practice. this braindamged "socialism of the family" is beyond the lolz.
chetty: well current socialism has this pretend voting thing going on
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13916 @ 0.00079865 = 11.114 BTC [+]
chetty: maybe it should be other way round, women get harem of X men each!
mircea_popescu: because women are so totally willing to shoot anyone that pisses them off.
chetty: hmm ok thats a point, women with children only
mircea_popescu: that sounds like a great way to get yourself killed by your own children
chetty: true equality at last :P
mircea_popescu: but srsly, it's unfeasible. the men will compete, so will the children.
mircea_popescu: none have any sort of mothering instinct to downregulate it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well of course. why the fuck do you suppose afghanistan is undefeatable by the us ?
mircea_popescu: the arabs only do it with selected girls (ie, direct descendants)
mircea_popescu: anyway. for all the "learning" these undersexed "social studies" postdocs have supposedly done
mircea_popescu: it's still shocking to me that three decades later they've STILL not figured out how to negotiate reality.
chetty: asciilifeform, that may be different now with birthcontrol
chetty: asciilifeform, like the chinese
mircea_popescu: 'Yes, yes, something to love!' Ruska took him up in a triumphant, hoarse whisper. 'But not history or theory -you can only love a woman!' He leaned over to Nerzhin's bunk and grasped him by the elbow. 'What have they really taken away from us, tell me? The right to go to party meetings or to buy state bonds? The one way the Big Chief could really hurt us was to deprive us of women. And that's what he's done. For twenty
mircea_popescu: -five years! The Bastard! Who can imagine,' he struck his chest with his fist, 'what women mean to a prisoner?'
mircea_popescu: basically, the socialists needed the west front grinder like air. and once the war was over...
mircea_popescu: to keep the country socialist one got to keep the country socialist, and that means keeping the cunts in a college and most of the guys off the market.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00079888 = 7.0301 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Post your favorite lines from the bitcoin source code. : Buttcoin
mircea_popescu: "To me the real response is that you can't do what bitcoin wants to do on the internet without an external dependency."
mircea_popescu: "Imagine the market's reaction if a ddos took that single IP down and rendered worldwide mining impossible."
mircea_popescu: what the fuck, who do they think runs stock derpcode ?
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mircea_popescu: centralist mindest at work, you know, he does exactly what his government tells you so obviously bitcoin miners couldn't be different so obviously nobody has heard of just replacing that with the proper ip of their machine
mircea_popescu: except it never has, tho showmyip was down plenty of times since 2009
mircea_popescu: not that inexplicably. they didn't find a better avenue.
mircea_popescu: "This was simply that the right coped with the loss of a real overseas empire by internalising the empire, that is to say, by regarding metropolitan Spain as the empire and the proletariat as the subject colonial race." << that's actually an interesting point.
mircea_popescu: curious what the authors applying the principle to the us would come up with.
assbot: Dmantlement en France d'un trafic de bitcoins, une "premire en Europe", Banque - Assurances
assbot: ClubOrlov: The Rationale behind the Boston Psy-ops
mircea_popescu: "Hay que sembrar el terror
hay que dar la sensación de dominio eliminando sin escrúpulos ni vacilación a todos los que no piensen como nosotros. "
mircea_popescu: why's the intuition that any system predicated on having to kill dissenters is never going to win so hard to come to ?
mircea_popescu: we'll be killing people for having been involved with governments soon enough.
assbot: Federal Officials Propose 8-Foot Fences to Protect Endangered Mice
chetty: I guess someone wants to think mice will run out
mircea_popescu: well listen, if they're cute and run out the "entire economy" might grind to a halt.
mircea_popescu: "They killed one thousand, six hundred of the towns inhabitants as well as repeatedly raping young women considered to be of the left." << what was the test, i wonder ?
assbot: Harry Reid connected to Bundy cattle ranch, according to purged documents - BizPac Review
chetty: lots of 'land grabs' are based on 'saving' something. Soon enough US will be like Spain, landowner(gubermint) and peasants
pankkake: davout: the link to an altcoin casino is still in favor to BitcoinBourse. however dotcoin is german
davout: pankkake: yeah they mention tunisian, hence, not dotcoin
davout: what's the casino link you're referring to ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i recall reading that way back when the scandal broke
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davout: pankkake: mebbe he's in the mix somehow, anyway
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mircea_popescu: Mola wanted Sperrle to destroy Basque industry. With Bilbao about to fall to the Nationalists, this request disconcerted the German. Mola said if half of all Spanish factories were destroyed by our aircraft, the subsequent reconstruction of Spain would be greatly facilitated. However, the Nationalist government could not just destroy industry once victory was assured. Spain is dominated in a totally sick w
mircea_popescu: ay by the industries of Catalonia and the Basque Country. For Spain to be made healthy, they have to be destroyed. The German Chief of Staff Wolfram von Richthofen listened thunderstruck then recited to Mola all the reasons why it was madness to destroy a countrys industrial base, telling him that I have never in my life heard such idiocy
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ghandi wanted old men to sleep naked with their nieces forever.
mircea_popescu: mola wanted his sons to go riding in a field where pretty girls labored with their hands forever.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the point makes sense, if the choice is between ten dollars when everyone has one or a hundred dollars when everyone has a hundred, then to be rich is to have ten dollars.
mircea_popescu: but whether an ideal works or does not work has little ideal implication.
mircea_popescu: which poses quite the conundrum to ideologies predicated on ideal purity
mircea_popescu: which also makes all this talk of "fighting corruption" rather dubious. if not corruption then purity, and consequently... mola's paradise ?
mircea_popescu: but they never say "corruption is great but this other fellow i sdoing it wrong"
mircea_popescu: gives the fucktards (like say the people reading politico) the wrong impression.
mircea_popescu: and the problem with fucktards is that they're always the children, which means they'll have to mange on their own someday.
mircea_popescu: and that day... tehy'll try to implement their mistaken ideas about corruption, to great lulz.
chetty: <mircea_popescu> and that day... tehy'll try to implement their mistaken ideas about corruption, to great lulz.<<<isn't that like now
mircea_popescu: the great ideological purity revolution hasn't happened yet in the us.
mircea_popescu: we're still in the "Structural weaknesses of democracy as displayed in the corrupt weimar republic" phase.
pankkake: so who's likely to become america's hitler?
mircea_popescu: he's prolly serving time on a petty charge somewhere in pittsburgh
pankkake: I propose we kill all american painters, as a safety precaution
assbot: Children of same-sex couples are happier and healthier than peers, research shows - The Washington Post
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and spend some time robbing banks in... what's the us equivalent, south carolina ?
chetty: prolly a tranny, raised by same sex parents
pankkake: chetty: 100% wanted children. DUH
mircea_popescu: pankkake shut up and stop expecting statistics to be used scientifically by the social studies bunch.
pankkake: yeah the question is what's next after a (albeit half) black president
cazalla: chetty: the man that ran that study is a fag who raises a couple boys with his faggy partner and does it right here in melbourne, australia :\
cazalla: yes, they asked the faggy parents
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fairness, usg1 failed on its own merits.
cazalla: the guy who ran it is always on tv talk shows, newspapers here promoting that degeneracy
chetty: cazalla, mircea_popescu typical of whats called science these days
mircea_popescu: cazalla i take it you against gay people raising children ?
cazalla: yeah as well as single parents
pankkake: funny how 80% of parents are female though
cazalla: if she has children, that's her place
mircea_popescu: so then if you hook up with intelligent women you can never have children ?
cazalla: breastfeeding too, no formula, had to really drive that home with the missus
cazalla: intelligent women don't have children though
pankkake still wonders how scientific Idiocracy is
chetty: pankkake, I think it is upon us
cazalla: yeah, i know where you're headed with this
cazalla: a woman can be smart and be a housewife
cazalla: they've just been sidetracked with this have a career at the same time
mircea_popescu: interacting with idiots makes you one, and children are born idiots.
mircea_popescu: the only practical way to keep the women intellectually stimulated enough in your scheme is to make a harem.
cazalla: i prefer to look at my son as a blank slate, perhaps even a fresh start :P
mircea_popescu: which is obviously where things are going, but anyway.
chetty: children are never balnk slates
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chetty: cazalla, trust me kids have a personality from day 1
mircea_popescu: chetty personality is not intelligence however. idiocy speaks to the noggin not the thymus.
chetty: mircea_popescu, yeah, but even the idiots are not blanks
cazalla: from my own observations, up until 3 months, all his behaviour seemed instinctual, feed me etc
chetty: cazalla, but even that has parameters, some are more demanding for instance
mircea_popescu: cazalla just that some kids grab the tit and some don't is enough.
mircea_popescu: actually i recall this hilarious scene where mother was trying to feed baby while bent over it, using her hands to work
cazalla: ours is a good baby though, started sleeping through nights from 3 months, only cries if hungry, not demanding at all
mircea_popescu: then being puzzled for the second while it settled down back in his mouth
chetty: cazalla, see even you described 'good baby'
cazalla: as long as we respond to whatever it is he wanted, his demands cease, doesn't seem like personality to me
cazalla: good as in good for me and wife
mircea_popescu: Spanish grandeur was at its height in the Sixteenth Century, when the sun never set on her dominions. Our great century, the century of the mystics, the saints and the artists. The century of the Spanish Empire! Well, do you know how many inhabitants our fatherland had then when it was truly great? Twelve millions! What does it matter is half the population has to disappear if that is what is required for us t
mircea_popescu: at the time spain was 12 million, england was 2.8, and the only thing keeping everyone from sucking caliph cock was the difficulty in traversing 5000 miles with an army
mircea_popescu: even so spanyards today are about as white as the sicilians.
mircea_popescu: "It's a fact. Yeah. You see, uh, Sicilians have, uh, black blood pumpin' through their hearts. Hey, no, if eh, if eh, if you don't believe me, uh, you can look it up. Hundreds and hundreds of years ago, uh, you see, uh, the Moors conquered Sicily. And the Moors are niggers."
cazalla: so am i wrong to oppose gays marrying and raising children?
mircea_popescu: cazalla there's no wrong dude. you think whatever you think.
cazalla: they raise kids as it is anyway so guess it doesn't really matter
cazalla: well yes you said this many months ago when you said it was xenophobic
pankkake: well given that most couples appear to be females, there's not much you can do anyway
mircea_popescu: pankkake nor does it make much practical difference. it's like better daycare, if they didn't adopt they'd be hired to care for those kids in a state run institution.
pankkake: there really isn't a lack of parents wanting to adopt
pankkake: at least if you want a western kid
pankkake: most adoption agencies said gays won't be a priority, so adoption through that is going to be… never
chetty: abortion on demand tends to produce a shortage of adoptable babies
cazalla: it just doesn't make sense to pay someone else to raise your kid, someone that you don't really know, seems more a convenience for parents so they can work to purchase trinkets
mircea_popescu: chetty last i checked us foster homes were undersupplied badly.
mircea_popescu: cazalla it makes the following sense : your wife will only learn to fuck so well it'll surprise you if you send her to work in a brothel.
mircea_popescu: and your kids are only going to make you proud if they spend time with strangers.
chetty: mircea_popescu, foster is different, child services just loves to take and place kids
cazalla: even that would not help my wife
cazalla: sure, as he grows up but some of this women stick their kid in day care at 3 months just so they can get back to work, seems a critical time for mother/child
mircea_popescu: but now you're discussing degree, not the principle of the matter.
chetty: daycare seems more needed since kids cant play outside
pankkake: for many, it's not a choice anymore - the man only can not afford to feed his family… when there is a man
mircea_popescu: pankkake which simply means that man shouldn't have a family in the first place.
cazalla: yes but it's only not a choice because women decided to value careers over being a homekeeper
mircea_popescu: cazalla men decided to value women that value other shit than homekeeping.
cazalla: funny that men didn't have problems paying the bills, mortage etc when women stayed at home
mircea_popescu: this predates the sufragettes by about half a century.
mircea_popescu: it's all male driven. even if not driven by most of the males. it's driven by the males that matter, which are the males women care about anyway.
mircea_popescu: this entire nonsense depicting feminism as a woman driven thing... heh. mkay.
pankkake: tax structure. work is heavily taxed, services often offers tax reductions
pankkake: I don't think this is a "natural" change
pankkake: a single worker has less purchasing power than before
mircea_popescu: it's just you somehow decided it's ok for the worker to buy magic tools nowadays.
cazalla: can he buy more mcdonalds though
pankkake: what about housing/medical/education?
mircea_popescu: "When war broke out, the village was collectivised and
mircea_popescu: food supplies rationed until fields could be tilled and the harvest came in. His fighting bulls
mircea_popescu: were killed for food and the villagers tasted red meat for the first time in their lives. "
mircea_popescu: single worker, before. ate red meat for the first time in his life... accidentally.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can either compare same exact item, ie, grain. literally. grain
mircea_popescu: or else scale. if you scale you make some implications.
mircea_popescu: "before" the poor laborer only lived in town if an actual townsman took him as a household slave.
mircea_popescu: 1k ounces of silver for a property is less than what it was. "before".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform looky here. either one is an engineer (ie, guild member) or not.
chetty: well with all the landgrab people are getting forced into the urban areas
nubbins`: korea has been slowly migrating to seoul since the 50s
mircea_popescu: the multitude of laborers that'd like to pretend themselves townsfolk ?
nubbins`: y'know, i come here for the socioeconomic discourse more than anything else
mircea_popescu: granted, having the rest pretend like they're included rather than being shot a la franco is a great accolade for the burgher press
mircea_popescu: but it ain't changing the substance, as good packaging as it may be.
mircea_popescu: kinda why college education is so important, and its widening so unavoidable, and including the blacks so paramountly important.
mircea_popescu: a critical mass of laborers that stop trying to pretend like they're burghers could well be the end of it
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mircea_popescu: the measuring stick is very simple to implement : post on your blog something about niggers.
mircea_popescu: any other outcome, such as not having a blog, or the word on your keyboard, or a job after ?
mircea_popescu: that's what burghers got : the franchise, ie, th right to express themselves.
mircea_popescu: that's the deep problem with the baker not wanting to bake gay cake.
mircea_popescu: he thinks himself a burgher. the guild begs to differ.
mircea_popescu: it's not either easy or effectual, because capital is no longer meaniungful in fiat
mircea_popescu: but ok, if you live off your bitcoin investments, then yes.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, nobody has any capital. inasmuch as they can't just wire it to bin laden's boys if they choose to.
cazalla: yeah, i live off my capital atm but i'm a peon
cazalla: whiskey and gay parent talk and now you have me rattled
mircea_popescu: ""For instance, well be done with this nonsense of equality for women. I breed horses and animals generally, you understand. I know all about women. Therell be no more nonsense about subjecting a gentleman to court action. If a womans unfaithful to him, hell shoot her like a dog. Its disgusting, any interference of a court between a man and a wife.
mircea_popescu: right, because she's going to be unfaithful with martians.
mircea_popescu: i'd be really curious to see how that'd work in practice, this state which doesn't get involved in sex distribution.
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jurov: lol cazalla what are single parents to do? get rationed a partner by state or by family?
jurov: try saying that to your missus she should do it if something hapens to you
jurov: you might want to take responsibility to your hands and line up ersatz man yourself
ThickAsThieves: lol Ver offered $10 to the Ross Ulbricht defense for every retweet, 16,500 later he says "More retweets welcome, but the donation limit has been reached."
cazalla: jurov: if i died, i'd expect her to try and find another provider but most single parents aren't single because they're widows
cazalla: they're single parents because they're strong, proud women who don't need no man.. now that they've taken him for half his shit
jurov: how many woman are single because man knocked them and stopped caring after? they're in same position as widows
cazalla: she should've made a better choice in partner then
cazalla: or her parents should've arranged a marriage to man who would provide for her and child
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cazalla: i think it's a reasonable ideal
cazalla: because tax payer foots the bill for her mistake so she can stay home
cazalla: it's almost like you're being cuckolded by the government cause i have to pay for someone elses kid
cazalla: anyway i've been drinking so pay no attention, i will berate degenerates for their lifestyle on one hand and look for another girlfriend on the other
nubbins`: taxpayer foots the bill for everybody's everything
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nubbins`: it's like i have to pay for firefighters even though my house isn't on fire blah blah etc
jurov: "she made mistake" problem conveniently sweeped under the carpet
ThickAsThieves: "This system has the potential to revive the lost sunnah of donating to the mujahideen, it is simple, easy, and we ask Allah to hasten it’s usage for us."
nubbins`: implying raising a kid alone is super fun
cazalla: i'm not saying that at all
jurov: singles, lesbians and gays raised children ever since. some "shoulds" won't change anything about it.
cazalla: yeah look for what it's worth, missus good friend is gay and he's a good bloke and came to visit us in hospital and i didn't shoo him away because i know him
pankkake: cazalla> it's almost like you're being cuckolded by the government => yep
nubbins`: implying that there aren't just as many two-parent families getting government money
pankkake: nubbins`: I don't know, there's a significant portion of women who aim to be single mothers
cazalla: i'm quite ok with cutting off funding to all of them
nubbins`: there's a significant portion of amish in pennsylvania
jurov: pankkake what's hard to understand about there are no worthy guys?
cazalla: if no worthy guys, how do women manage to have a baby then
jurov: sperm count has little realtion to ability to manage a house
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pankkake: Un ami pour le chic, un amant pour le choc, un mari pour le chèque
cazalla: plus if women didn't have single parent payments to fall back on, they'd might make a better choice in selecting a mate to have a baby with
cazalla: single parent pension in australia - $713.20
cazalla: it's almost like they encourage women to do this
cazalla: ill shut up now, i will feel foolish reading logs tmw
pankkake: it's an encouragement, I just wonder whether it is intentional
cazalla: maybe MP is right in saying problem is with masses of men
pankkake: remember that marxists wanted to break families; children raised by the community
pankkake: and family can be seen as an adversary to socialism. better to have people alone, lost, with no social structure to fall back on except the State
jurov: lol we're back to conspirations
cazalla: well, i was gonna mention jews
jurov: for me, much simpler picture emerged in past days
cazalla: or merchant conspiracies heh rubs hands
cazalla: someone make a titty video to get alex jones in here
jurov: people (of both sexes) enjoy participating in system where the results are by several levels removed from their efforts
jurov: this was not the case before
jurov: when it comes to childrearing, the results are not avoidable but one is not prepared to handle it
pankkake: why does it have to be a conspiracy?
jurov: you picture above as tsome sinister goal of socialism
cazalla: they won't take from my pocket much longer, aging population here in australia, no-one is having kids so no tax payers to fund aged care, total welfare state where 1 in 4 receive some type of benefit, it ends soon
jurov: but it grew pretty organically
pankkake: socialists dislike family, thus will approve things that undermine it
pankkake: it doesn't need concerted effort
jurov: so what? we have gotten us to the point we have enough surplus food to feed them. this isn't the core of the problem
jurov: and it you propose starving, then you run in the case that starved people are yet more irrational
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BingoBoingo: Well, feeding people might be why china wants to steal all of the cutting edge seed corn
jurov: yeah, lets go back before neolithic revolution, that solves everything
cazalla: life finds a way, you have not seen jurassic park?
BingoBoingo: Indeed. Sure the hybrids popular now aren't technically terminator seeds yet, but... Carrying them another generation yeilds... little.
BingoBoingo: Pulling tassels off of the wrong rows of corn to prevent the wrong hybrids at the seed farms is a thing for a reason...
cazalla: we've got dodgson here! how would they catch you? unenforceable law isn't it?
BingoBoingo: In the Middle West private investigators that collect samples from fields to sent to the various seed vendors to check for unlicensed use of their "IP" is a thing
kakobrekla: hah, the replacement ps2 adapter only has 1 bad solder joint instead of 3
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, it's a cat and mouse game. The snoop gets more practice and even farmers sleep.
kakobrekla: at least the copper layer was not ripped of the board on this one so its fixable
BingoBoingo: Well, I dunno if they did that the masters would ever admit what they were
nubbins`: i lifted a pad once when modifying an expensive synth
kakobrekla: asciilifeform dunno it seems mostly low end china fabs have this issue
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, the copyrastas don't have vulnerable targets sitting literally outdoors, and that may have been stolen only in the sense of pollen from a neighboring field blew over essentially stealing itself
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mircea_popescu: <cazalla> they're single parents because they're strong, proud women who don't need no man.. now that they've taken him for half his shit << nah, most are single for jurov's reason.
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nubbins`: phones must be TURNED ON AND IN AIRPLANE MODE
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> nubbins`: I don't know, there's a significant portion of women who aim to be single mothers << you mean on the internet or irl ?
mircea_popescu: <jurov> sperm count has little realtion to ability to manage a house << for srs.
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> plus if women didn't have single parent payments to fall back on, they'd might make a better choice in selecting a mate to have a baby with << also a good point.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that you don't really want to live i nthe society which forces you t obe the sort of guy that's a good mate to have a baby with.
mircea_popescu: you wish to live in the society where you can pretend trhat you're cool and have gfs.
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> someone make a titty video to get alex jones in here << i don' do manboobs
mircea_popescu: cazalla well if it's true then what do you want, it has some drawbacks.
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mircea_popescu: you want sexual promiscuity for yourself, it'll be the norm, especially if you're banal. it being the norm... it'll be the norm, stop bitchin'.
cazalla: i want some indian candy lol
cazalla: i can't afford to have both at this time so perhaps that's where the frustration really comes from
cazalla: not that sort of indian asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: also yes, as usual : the main utility of monsanto bs actually is in china.
mircea_popescu: english settlers didn't understand redskin ownership systems
ThickAsThieves: <+indiancandy1> do people do that /// mostly children and governments
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mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> (basic physical principle - any semiconductor is a rectifier. any conductor is antenna. together - 'rfid' whether you wanted or not.) << the ability to put this heory in practice is severely limited for a government that spends 1 bn for a website.,
mircea_popescu: pankkake i srsly don't see it. who knows, maybe we talk to differen people.
mircea_popescu: "we want the soviet union but with gizmos" -> "we wand democracy" -
indiancandy1: apart from the weird catholic fanatics that sit outside abortion clinics and gum clinics with dead baby foetues dummies and crosses
indiancandy1: am i the only one to find this funny marilyn manson posted something online saying the virgin mary wasnt a virgin because god raped her
mircea_popescu: "In 1910, Gonzalo had fallen in love with a celebrated beauty in Salamanca, Inés Luna Terrero. She was extremely rich and, like Gonzalo, spoke English, French and German. She was a progressive feminist who shocked local opinion because she smoked and wore trousers. She was devastated when, in 1911, Gonzalo broke off the engagement in favour of Magdalena Álvarez Ruiz, the daughter of a cochero (a man who hired out
mircea_popescu: carriages and cars). Inés Luna Terrero never married and apparently, for the rest of her life, carried a torch for the dashingly handsome cavalry officer." << how did that expression go, nobody will ever win the battle of the sexes, too much fraternizing with the enemy ?
pankkake: I've been spammed by an anti-abortion group, they sent me dead baby foetuses pictures, on glossy paper
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indiancandy1: i got my nipples peirced evvery time im in a airport
chetty: best reason I ever heard for not getting peircings
pankkake: I thought metal detectors didn't ring on that
indiancandy1: i tell them sorry sir but i have my nipples peirced
pankkake: I suppose they were turned on "female" ;)
indiancandy1: nothing i mean some of them are like all smiley and gigly about the whole thing
indiancandy1: this is something the jihad havent looked into
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 you know angelina jolie had all her tit sucked out
indiancandy1: she thought she was prone to cancer as her mother passed from it
chetty: hey do they do that for guys that have testicular cancer?
indiancandy1: i thought so to i think in afghan its pretty popular
pankkake: why would a girl with big tits want to kill herself?
mircea_popescu: angola rabbit goes to forest brothel, tells them he wants to fuck a boa cosntrictor whore.
pankkake: anyway, there was a "explosive butt plug" thing but it was a hoax
mircea_popescu: so they take it to a boa constrictor whore, which... swallows him.
mircea_popescu: except... angola rabbit. bucnha fuzz, it doesn't sit well with the great snake. so after a while boa spits the rabbit out,
mircea_popescu: rabbit picks himself up and struttingly "boy, what a blowjob"
davout: mircea_popescu: "but anyway, suicide bomber girl may become a thing." <<< not sure martyrdom appeals to women the same it does to men...
pankkake: does it have to be an angola rabbit?
indiancandy1: well i heard that in the quran it says something about killing for god
chetty: I think they get to be amn
nubbins`: 40 man-babies to feed and clothe
davout: ThickAsThieves: you have a point
indiancandy1: like human sacrifice brings you closer to allah
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> why would a girl with big tits want to kill herself? << back pain ?
mircea_popescu: i've had chicks with nice tits go "plz kill me" after a night o clubbin' in high heels.
indiancandy1: but i cant even sit straight im sure im going to be like the hunchback when i get older
indiancandy1: but i cant even sit straight im sure im going to be like the hunchback when i get older?
indiancandy1: i would get to black eyes if i run i used to go gym and course quite a audience on the treadmill
ThickAsThieves: you dont have to be the fastest runner, just not the slowest
indiancandy1: i was like pammi in baywatch it was really bad actually to one point that once one fellow came up stood infront and said im going to stand here nd watch you till you tell me to fuck off
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform most inquisition victims were female actually.
indiancandy1: ssurely you would get aids from that butt plug
nubbins`: i don't think anything that size is reaching the uterus
nubbins`: shredding the diaphragm, certainly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17195 @ 0.00079721 = 13.708 BTC [+]
nubbins`: ^ first link contains full story
mircea_popescu: here's the thing : you presume rational approach on the part of the users.
mircea_popescu: rational people probably wouldn't have had these things anyway
mircea_popescu: so it's likely they were used. not because of anything to do with the victims
mircea_popescu: but because at a time before medical encyclopedias, some people still wanted to see guts.
nubbins`: man, i saw a photo of a human hand without skin the other day
indiancandy1: i stoped eating meat because i saw a goat being slaughtered and skinned alive
assbot: Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis: Spain Issues Retroactive 0.03% Tax on Bank Deposits to "Boost Economic Growth and Job Creation"
mircea_popescu: afaik all the rage in manga now is to show the insides as well
davout: asciilifeform: spain is gay compared to what cyprus did
chetty: ECB telling banks to stay out of btc is nice too
indiancandy1: Millions of people on the streets for the Tour de France. Why? They've been there for hours, & the entire race passed them in under a minute. And it's raining
davout: asciilifeform: no, because what spain is essentially doing is simply a tax on the interest collected
davout: has nothing to do with a haircut
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 well maybe they're there with their friends.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52259 @ 0.00079482 = 41.5365 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: hey, people climb a ton of steps for 10 seconds in the crown of the statue of liberty
mircea_popescu went to istanbul, couldn't be bothered to climb galata tower. too many tourists, what is this regimented bs.
nubbins`: climbing tall things is nice, doing it in a queue isn't
mircea_popescu: but this IS a major problem of overpopulation. i doubt the louvre will ever again be visitable for instance.
nubbins`: problem of affordable long-distance travel as well
indiancandy1: mp did you check out the turkish belly dancers
nubbins`: machu picchu suffers as much as the cn tower ;D
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 belly dancing is like this requisite female skill. no idea how one goes through life without
indiancandy1: i want to go to lessons i saw a video of shakira on youtbe pretty impressive and it looks so hot rather than that twrking mallarky
davout: "i can twerk" not so far of "i can't work" :D
mircea_popescu: i thought the only distinction of twerking was that anyone can do it.
thestringpuller: what if that someone else steals your private key an impersonates you
indiancandy1: well there is no fun or gain in impersonating me so
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.03575737 = 0.5721 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: if someone impersonates you it'll just be resolved wiht PoT
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.0355365 = 1.3149 BTC [-] {8}
indiancandy1: if you consider greek as white i do but people in england dont
thestringpuller: i just always think of dave chappelle imitating a white person using the word "malarky" when I hear it
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 55 @ 0.01758545 = 0.9672 BTC [+] {3}
thestringpuller: More like: "No I'm from fucking Connecticut. And no, I don't have any "herb" for sale"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 55 @ 0.01759957 = 0.968 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.75136014 BTC to 11`714 shares, 14951 satoshi per share
davout: thestringpuller: wai u dreadlox if u not herb 4 sale?
davout: "i moved up to cocaine", ah ok
davout: i have not received any so far, SO ALLOW ME TO DOUBT HERE :D
kakobrekla: <ThickAsThieves> he deals cookies < o yeah cookie biz, that explains it
assbot: Family Guy - Cookie Monster (HD) - YouTube
kakobrekla: also try lollipops, kids love those. something like 70% thc and 30% cbd.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 616.08, Best ask: 618.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.92000, Last trade: 616.0, 24 hour volume: 5145.64589832, 24 hour low: 616.0, 24 hour high: 637.8, 24 hour vwap: 626.170851195
mike_c: TaT, wtf? i thought we were about to rally?
indiancandy1: i have a london accent sorry was in the shower
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nubbins`: plastic comb, regular $189, on sale for $59
indiancandy1: evry city in england has a different accent all the scottish sound the same and so do the irish
indiancandy1: my accent is combined with east end / hood / posh
mike_c: i gotta say, i am surprised draper didn't have an effect.
mike_c: 30k btc sells in a day and the market don't care.
ThickAsThieves: it was priced in already by the time he gave his performance
indiancandy1: no i didnt expect you to be carribean you could have been nigerian but
mike_c: or no news as the case may be.
ThickAsThieves: i'm not quite sure what the price is doing next tho, so i'm just bagholding
mike_c: bagholding what though? btc or fiat?
ThickAsThieves: this week everyone is hopping on the GS-NFLX-Buy is a scam bandwagon
mike_c: i don't like playing with stock of companies that don't make money.
mike_c: feels like forum investing :)
mike_c: yeah, but it's all hype-wagon. who knows which way the wind will blow.
mike_c: GS pushes you one way, JPM another
mike_c: not arguing that. i certainly have some fliers in my portfolio. that's just not my particular cup of speculation.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00079402 = 11.95 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: priceless! roger ver is $160k in the hole and counting… for dpr's legal fees
ThickAsThieves: Roger Ver finds some way to not truly pay the $165k to Ross' defense
mike_c: there are fiverr people who specialize in shit like this. you could easily pay $5 for 5k retweets.
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ThickAsThieves: well he already said more tweets wont increase what he gives
mike_c: what did he cap it at?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46400 @ 0.00079277 = 36.7845 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 34 @ 0.03500647 = 1.1902 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.03451 = 0.8282 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Draper's long-term bet on bitcoin - CNBC
ThickAsThieves: Draper talking on how large buyers might acquire bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 42 @ 0.0133899 = 0.5624 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: mike_c is the seeds subdomain set up properly for atc?
mike_c: well, my end is. i don't think we ever got the dns right
ThickAsThieves: i think i set it up per your instruction, just not sure if it was tested afterward
mike_c: let's try again :) let me get a picture.
benkay: <mircea_popescu> the only practical way to keep the women intellectually stimulated enough in your scheme is to make a harem. // i was thinking about the marginal cost of a second wife and five more kids this weekend
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 39 @ 0.01689768 = 0.659 BTC [-] {4}
mike_c: ok. so here's what we did wrong.
mike_c: need: 1) "seeds.therealaltcoin.org NS ns1.seeds.therealaltcoin.org"
mike_c: 2) "ns1.seeds.therealaltcoin.org A 54.197.241.190
gribble: BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 51 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform: Well, the copyrastas don't have vulnerable targets sitting literally outdoors, and that may have been stolen only in the sense of pollen from a neighboring field blew over essentially stealing itself
mike_c: ThickAsThieves: there's a bug on therealaltcoin.org. the Casino link is pointing to satoshijack ;)
punkman: ns1.seeds.therealaltcoin.org should probably be under Advanced Options > Nameserver Registration
ThickAsThieves: i installed wordpress so i can flesh the site out more
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 264 @ 0.00403323 = 1.0648 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00079265 = 15.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.03829246 = 1.3402 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Global Jihad 'Could Be Funded With Bitcoin'
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: all he needs now is a pedo moustache and the look is complete?
kakobrekla: >Other cryptocurrencies don’t come with a built-in joke.
fluffypony: knock knock. who's there? Auroracoin. Auroracoin who? Auroracoin get fucked, that whore!
punkman: "Of course, there's always the chance Dogecoin could rally."
assbot: I wouldn’t call this journalism. | Moolah
punkman: " I do not intend to be working in the sector anymore; because of the constant co-ordinated attacks on myself."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44950 @ 0.00079199 = 35.6 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.0007943 = 14.0194 BTC [+]
nubbins`: fluffypony you made those shirts look pretty sharp
fluffypony: nubbins`: they are good shirts - thank you!
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assbot: "This Could Be The Last Straw" 90% Of China Loan Guarantors Bankrupt | Zero Hedge
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40700 @ 0.00079548 = 32.376 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: all iron orange juicer ? 20 bux. 11lbs of oranges ? 2 bux.
mircea_popescu: who's got all the fresh squeezed orange juice he could ever drink ?
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> "No, just dont wash ma hair." << i lolled.
mircea_popescu: <indiancandy1> my accent is combined with east end / hood / posh << say, you seen saffron's beg video ?
mircea_popescu: <indiancandy1> no i didnt expect you to be carribean you could have been nigerian but << davout's the nigerian. and we got some somalis.
chetty: <mircea_popescu> all iron orange juicer ? 20 bux. 11lbs of oranges ? 2 bux.// the mystery is that people around here still drink tang and stuff
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> i gotta say, i am surprised draper didn't have an effect. << why ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell indiancandy1 my accent is combined with east end / hood / posh << say, you seen saffron's beg video ?
mircea_popescu: chetty ikr? one day i order orange juice in this pretty upscale place, get tang. i was saddened.
mike_c: i feel like we are back in a zone where BTC price is below its current value. i thought the auction might pop the inertia bubble on the price.
mircea_popescu: i felt like me saying so may pop the inertia on the price. which it did, a 25% ish.
chetty: mike_c give it a few days
mircea_popescu: the market can't stay irrational longer than i have patience.
mircea_popescu: yep. like catfish, it can try, which is what makes the sport fun.
chetty: how do you know when a game will start on waroflife?
davout: mircea_popescu: "the market can't stay irrational longer than i have patience." <<< lol, make a bitbet
davout: depends how it's worded i guess :D
davout: bet title: "market becomes rational before mircea popescu loses patience"
davout: bet description: "market goes >= x before y"
davout: bitbet mod comment: "disregard this, bet resolves to yes if netherlands wins wc"
mircea_popescu: if netherlands wins wc ima have all the camhos bubbling.
davout: i can't wait for someone to manage to troll bitbet by passing some self-referring bet
davout: "bet resolves to yes if it resolves to yes"
davout: "bet resolves to yes if the product of bets that have resolved to no before the bitbet mod is aged three times the day of month the bet has been accepted..."
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete im not sure of the reasoning on the "if guilty he's a hero". seems to me the guy's fucktarded either way, but hey.
mircea_popescu: mebbe jesus homie knows something i don't. somehow. through divine headfucking.
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> there are fiverr people who specialize in shit like this. you could easily pay $5 for 5k retweets. << this being obviously the only way ver gets 16k rts.
Zoop_: i shall use my 30 minutes of fame wisely
Zoop_: www.gao.gov/assets/670/663678.pdf
Zoop_: it's from may, but only went public a few hours ago
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assbot: BLOGDIAL » Blog Archive » Guardian warmongering over Pakistan encryption ban
Zoop_: davout report from GAO on virtual currencies
davout: Zoop_: yeah, that's on page 1, i mean "what is this?", as in, why is it important?
mircea_popescu: "which is to include a) a plain statement of the SECs lack of jurisdiction with regards to Bitcoin, thus alligning itself with the position of the US FED and the US GAO ;"
assbot: Interacting with fiat institution, a guide pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
Zoop_: well, the news is: the report is out and GAO wants CFPB to focus on virtual currencies
mircea_popescu: fluffypony did the islandese people get rescued by max scamkeiser yet ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno about you, but i personally am looking forward.
chetty: asciilifeform, any day now
mircea_popescu: perhaps because "the real fun starts" means things like "rape a US agent, post the film, get 100 BTC"
mircea_popescu: powerful people with nothing to lose are how one gets fucked up.
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> nubbins`: they are good shirts - thank you! << he does make pretty kickass shirt that's for sure.
mircea_popescu: chetty zerohedge's entire business model is "this could be the last straw" lol
chetty: <mircea_popescu> chetty zerohedge's entire business model is "this could be the last straw" lol// doom sells
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 426 @ 0.00217065 = 0.9247 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the zh article is nonsensical, in that in no functional economy can 90% of guarantors crack. it's simply not possible, like a cancer that takes over 90% of a body's cells.
mircea_popescu: once 10%ish is reached the system collapses, it's not possible to cross over 50% in any case.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 410 @ 0.0041 = 1.681 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: mexican standoff. the usg doesn't mind idiot eu bureaucrats fucking themselves over, but otherwise, it won't really shoot first.
mircea_popescu: for the most part, neither are we, there's no profit to be had, and even less lols.
assbot: Long Island Rail Road Strike Deadline Looms, Thousands of Commuters Affected | NBC New York
chetty: I think a lot of wall street rides those trains
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 619.31, Best ask: 621.6, Bid-ask spread: 2.29000, Last trade: 621.6, 24 hour volume: 7031.17995532, 24 hour low: 612.9, 24 hour high: 636.0, 24 hour vwap: 623.785444584
mircea_popescu: "What the commentators didn't mentionbecause hardly anyone noticedis that buying that NASCAR sponsorship wasn't really a team effort. Rather, it was disproportionately the work of one man, Alex Green, founder and director of Moolah, the preeminent company that exchanges dogecoins for other kinds of currency."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35044 @ 0.00079254 = 27.7738 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00079254 = 5.7855 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "Like before, Greene appeared to" / "Green got more than just customers" can't even get the name right. what research and shit.
mircea_popescu: "In February, he saw a fundraiser called Cancer for College would get Will Ferrell to shout out anybody who donated $1,500. Green said he didn't realize he was typing in British pounds, rather than dollars, and so he accidentally gave $2,466 of his own money. To date, just over 2,500 people have viewed the nine-second video of Ferrell somberly thanking r/dogecoin."
ThickAsThieves: <+Zoop_> it's from may, but only went public a few hours ago /// pff i linked this days ago
assbot: Ah sweet sweet delicious communitard tears pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
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mircea_popescu: pankkake ahahh wait, j c weidmann's aka is actualy a reference to story of o ?
assbot: Next Bitcoin Core Version to Include 'Smarter' Transaction Fees
ThickAsThieves: "Andresen cited needless complexities within bitcoin’s transaction fee code as the reason for the update. "
mircea_popescu: so mr ThickAsThieves, how does it feel to have created the actual lulzaltcoin that works ?
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> so mr ThickAsThieves, how does it feel to have created the actual lulzaltcoin that works ? /// Usually just feel guilty it's not getting more attention
mircea_popescu: you do owe it something. vapid pointless publicity and assorted redditardation ain't it.
mircea_popescu: kako's had bad experiences with female orgasm in the past
kakobrekla: you know that is not getting approved.
ThickAsThieves: mike_c was complaining about the price, what do you guys think it should be
mircea_popescu: so apparently the only way to get a toothbrush that has bristles instead of random plastic chunks is to buy brazil made stuff.
mircea_popescu: these fucktards and their "science" of "cool". NOT EVERYTHING IS A SNEAKER, YO!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves what diff does it make what the price is ?
ThickAsThieves: well, i wasnt trying to get all philosophical about it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46424 @ 0.00079254 = 36.7929 BTC [-]
assbot: The Skeptics | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute
assbot: QINGDAO SITUATION AND THE COPPER MARKET OUTLOOKQINGDAO SITUATION LIKELY TO CONTINUE ONGOING CCFD UNWIND
mircea_popescu: if anyone's not following but curious about china news
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40586 @ 0.00079023 = 32.0723 BTC [-] {5}
kakobrekla: 8 devices per single rack, 12 single racks in a row
mircea_popescu: dude. there's 20 layers, each layer 10 on the base 6 tall on each side.
ThickAsThieves: help me understand something plz - if china doublespent or sold metals it didnt have, how is that bearish on the price of metals?
mircea_popescu: tho left side is only half wide (hence the 6 and the 4)
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves if panic grips the fx market and it unwinds, and if doubts as to value of metal as collateral unwinds metal pledged as colateral in stocks
mircea_popescu: this reduces demand for physical metal, and so increases spot supply
mircea_popescu: currently these fucks are only in demand for fucking with.
mircea_popescu: if tomorrow they are in the same demand for fucking with, but also in demand to make chef's salad,
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00079288 = 9.5542 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if next week someone gets aids from eating your fucks chefs salad
ThickAsThieves: but the fuck is the funds and shit, not the metal, the fuck is the fucktards that fucked up
ThickAsThieves: or youre saying the effects of this fuckery are already priced in
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00079696 = 19.3263 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: anyway. the renminbi was a stupid name anyway, i doubt they seriously intended for it to survive
sexysaffron: thanks! forgot the authentication process again!
BingoBoingo: "As well, the new code enables transaction senders to configure how much priority they want their transaction to receive. In some cases, users may opt to have as many as six blocks pass before the first confirmation is received." << How the fuck does Gavin deign to tell the miners what to do?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The Gavin messing with tx fees article someone dropped a while back
sexysaffron: I tweeted him the video and the link to the channel
assbot: freenode Web IRC (qwebirc)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15276 @ 0.00079651 = 12.1675 BTC [-]
assbot: Saffron Bacchus (SexyMissSaffron) auf Twitter
mircea_popescu: ok, that tweet is no good because a) it's two tweets and b) it's a weird dropbox link which the guy is not gonna open.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13722 @ 0.00079758 = 10.9444 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: so delete them and standby, i'll give you a youtube link in a few mins.
mircea_popescu: actually be like half hour seeing how it'll have to be reprocessed for youtubs.
sexysaffron: no problem, you can just send me an email, sexy_miss_saffron@hotmail.com
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i was thinking, "Hey, whores were never ever more than 10-15 per kilo)
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, when you put it that way...
assbot: What costs more than Gold in the local supermarket? | The Real Sasha
BingoBoingo: My garden has boring vegetables, but I got to disappear a groundhog in its defense last week.
kakobrekla: its a fuckin pain to make. especially the harvest.
sexysaffron: my google foo claims saffron is worth 3 times more than gold!
kakobrekla: some work in the spring and fuck your asshole in the fall.
BingoBoingo: sexysaffron: Well it depends on the volume with saffron, but gold really doesn't give you discounts for buying more than a little.
BingoBoingo: Grams of supermarket saffron are going to be more expensive than the equivalent in gold, but kilos are cheaper
mircea_popescu: how's the harvest go ? you on hands and knees with a qtip ?
kakobrekla: gotta pull the flowers to be later processed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15081 @ 0.00078855 = 11.8921 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: getting the pistils out is also not an easy job
kakobrekla: does not come even near the price of a good shit
ThickAsThieves: i had some store-bought stuff and it tasted like plastic to me
kakobrekla: italy is a large producer of high quality stuff
kakobrekla: in egypt you can get 100grams for the price of 1gram here
kakobrekla: the funny thing is, the most fuckup is done when they dry it.
kakobrekla: you smell it, you check under the light and you taste it
kakobrekla: if you would have came for a visit i could have shown you the difference.
mircea_popescu: once i get enough slavegirls maybe i make a saffron growing harem.
xdotcommer: In the United States, safrole is currently a List I chemical.
xdotcommer: I thought the two were related.. but it seems just similar spelling