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sexysaffron: voyager is my favorite
mircea_popescu sneers at the monster-of-the-week flying-around-space-in-our-livingroom-watching-tv hey-look-it-s-a-model entertainment
teward: oh dear, netflix and my firewall are not cooperating... and I was just getting into the third season of DS9... >.>
teward disappears to fix the firewall rules
teward: there we go...
sexysaffron: oh star trek is all about interpersonal relationships and moral dilemas!
teward: except the last couple seasons of DS9, that's all about war and combat and defeating the dominion invaders
teward: and... interpersonal relationships and moral dilemmas.
sexysaffron: lol
sexysaffron: haven't finished ds9 yet, haven't had the strength to sit through it
mircea_popescu sneers at interpersonal relationships and moral dilemmas!!1
sexysaffron: just like atlantis :(
teward: also, good advice to everyone: don't ever set your computer that watches netflix to a bandwidth-restricted, rate-limit-triggering firewall subnet...
mthreat: data (the android) banged tasha yar. there's your interpersonal relationship
teward: it causes netflix to stop working after a while
mircea_popescu: teward who rate limits their own boxen ffs.
mircea_popescu: that's for lording your admin over othr people
teward: mircea_popescu, um... me?
teward has a virtual cluster on his own network, plus three other VLANs
teward: well, subnets actually, not VLANs
mircea_popescu: mthreat did he actually have the gear or did they have to upgrade him ?
mthreat: he said he was fully functional. standby for youtube clip
teward: mircea_popescu, i'm also kinda paranoid, i rate-limit the non-priority subnets so I don't overuse all my pipe
mircea_popescu: o.o
mircea_popescu: teward the internet is like a truck you know, you can just put more on it.
teward: and those other nets, except the priority and wifi subnets, are super locked down. (those two are not locked down as much but are locked down)
mthreat: here's the scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ev1ec0Z0GI
assbot: Data is fully functional - YouTube
dub: liek a supernode?
teward: mircea_popescu, sure... if you want to pay thousands a month for a 1gig symmetric pipe, or $850 a month for a 100meg symmetric pipe
teward has a 10meg pipe
teward: still costly, but not out of my budget
mircea_popescu: dub exactly liek a supernode.
mircea_popescu: !up sexysaffron
mircea_popescu: this yar chick has some very strange bed chat. being five ?! surviving ?!
sexysaffron: I thought I was supposed to be able to voice myself somehow?
mthreat: mircea_popescu: in that episode they were all drunk because of something, i forget what
sexysaffron: yar was a shitty character
assbot: nam-shub +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
mircea_popescu: ;;ident sexysaffron
gribble: Nick 'sexysaffron', with hostmask 'sexysaffron!8717c805@gateway/web/freenode/ip.', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: !up nam-shub
mircea_popescu: sexysaffron if you identify with gribble you can then pm assbot !up
mircea_popescu: wanna try it ?
sexysaffron: sure!
nam-shub: thanks for the !up
mircea_popescu: so first id with gribble
sexysaffron: ;;ident
gribble: Nick 'sexysaffron', with hostmask 'sexysaffron!8717c805@gateway/web/freenode/ip.', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: wait, picard also did yar ?
sexysaffron: I think maybe
mircea_popescu: sexysaffron ;;bcauth i think
mircea_popescu: ;;bcauth
gribble: (bcauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered with the bot with a bitcoin address for this to work. You will be given a random passphrase to sign with your address, and submit to the bot with the 'bcverify' command. Your passphrase will expire within 10 minutes.
mthreat: ask teward, he's seen it 10 times :)
sexysaffron: ;;bcauth
gribble: (bcauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered with the bot with a bitcoin address for this to work. You will be given a random passphrase to sign with your address, and submit to the bot with the 'bcverify' command. Your passphrase will expire within 10 minutes.
mircea_popescu: mthreat moreover, he ADMITS :p
mircea_popescu: ;;bcauth sexysaffron
gribble: Error: This nick is not registered. Please register.
mircea_popescu: o.O
teward: ;;gpg info sexysaffron
sexysaffron: ;;bcauth sexy_saffron ☟︎
gribble: No such user registered.
gribble: Request successful for user sexy_saffron, hostmask sexysaffron!8717c805@gateway/web/freenode/ip. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:187b08cf3e5bf4be1abc4ebcc21994f31d90b25e90c56b60bbafa3d9
nam-shub: Doesn't anyone here want to voice up to say how sexist this whole conversation has been? Who is here to speak for the Merckle and Yellen? Don't they deserve a video too?
mircea_popescu: nam-shub who are those ?!
sexysaffron: ;;bcverify HIQzBEFMPITBKHa/iQn7cl8p1yHxY7V5s/pdYo3FJENAH8m6hxkfFrDS/zXcr0TI3US30j/daFtcGBmjLBmMVvc=
gribble: Error: Signature verification failed.
mircea_popescu: win.
sexysaffron: hmmmm
mike_c: yellen prints the funny money
mircea_popescu: sexysaffron did you leave some bits out ?
teward: ;;bcauth TheLordOfTime
gribble: Request successful for user TheLordOfTime, hostmask teward!LordOfTime@ubuntu/member/teward. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:7369448cd56d66dd532ee02c584942a080e7aa036426128e9edb4e76
mircea_popescu: nam-shub do you mean the german pm, angela merkel ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31750 @ 0.00079749 = 25.3203 BTC [-] {2}
sexysaffron: I'm pretty sure I used the right address, I'll try again
teward: don'g forget its that entire string, sexysaffron :)
teward: don't forget its that entire string, sexysaffron :)
teward: ;;gpg info sexy_saffron
gribble: User 'sexy_saffron', with keyid None, fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1KGkZ1cAbsKH3rQNBoxe8N4KU9DBkfz1KT, registered on Fri Jul 4 17:46:41 2014, last authed on Fri Jul 4 17:46:41 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=sexy_saffron . Currently not authenticated.
teward: sexysaffron, ^
teward: that address
nam-shub: yes, sorry for the spelling I don't speak Japanese.
mircea_popescu: !up GunPlay
mircea_popescu: nam-shub well how the hell do they deserve videos too, they don't write blogs i read.
sexysaffron: ;;bcverify HP3SL7vFHrSKOlCsyca3HRNn6NL5kgrpq5HGq0eUZwQ+UpQPOqCWj6TUwXTW14twT9CKSof+Bi7CXBrAABUvAtk=
gribble: You are now authenticated for user 'sexy_saffron' with address 1KGkZ1cAbsKH3rQNBoxe8N4KU9DBkfz1KT
sexysaffron: woot!
mircea_popescu: yay
mircea_popescu: !down sexysaffron
sexysaffron: used the wrong address
mircea_popescu: sexysaffron now do /query assbot
mircea_popescu: and then in that window !up
mircea_popescu: yay. wd.
sexysaffron: awesome!
mircea_popescu: you've managed a feat few women do.
sexysaffron: I feel special!
mircea_popescu: actually... afaik there's more women presidents of countries
sexysaffron: one of a kind saffron!
sexysaffron: :P
mircea_popescu: ;;8ball
gribble: You know the answer better than I.
mircea_popescu: well of course i do, being the mp and all. nevertheless!
mircea_popescu: anyway, which other great people did we want invited here ?
mircea_popescu: and who first mentioned tlp anyway ?
mircea_popescu: !s thelastpsychiatrist
assbot: 1 results for 'thelastpsychiatrist' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=thelastpsychiatrist
mircea_popescu: noway
mircea_popescu: !s "thelastpsychiatrist.com"
assbot: 22 results for '"thelastpsychiatrist.com"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22thelastpsychiatrist.com%22
mthreat: !s thelastpsy*
assbot: 23 results for 'thelastpsy*' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=thelastpsy%2A
mircea_popescu: what, me ?! srsly ?
mircea_popescu: i thought it was BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: I might have mentioned it first
mircea_popescu: do you ever comment on his site ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Maybe a couple times quite a while back.
BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/07/google-bans-porn-in-ads/
assbot: Google bans porn in ads | Ars Technica
asciilifeform: damn, missed the 'isp suction olymnics' again.
asciilifeform: *olympics
asciilifeform: (100 usd buys ~100MB for 1mo. here in mordor.)
asciilifeform: (Mb/sec)
asciilifeform: ('human' grade, no 'qos' etc.)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.1993135 = 0.5979 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: * teward has quit (Quit: ERROR: Segmentation Fault in ZNC: admin.so: 56) ☟︎
BingoBoingo: !up nam-shub
BingoBoingo: !up teward
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00079728 = 7.8133 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up GunPlay
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48250 @ 0.00079715 = 38.4625 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 11 @ 0.13886362 = 1.5275 BTC [+] {5}
TheNewDeal: ;;later tell bitcoinpete hey would you want to give me a rating for that bitbet deal
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/07/dos-boot-ars-spends-a-day-working-in-freedos
assbot: Old school: I work in DOS for an entire day | Ars Technica
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19720 @ 0.00079709 = 15.7186 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 309546 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 917 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 9 hours, 54 minutes, and 7 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16693953285.3 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.74031
TheNewDeal: wow
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56300 @ 0.00079505 = 44.7613 BTC [-] {4}
[]bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "World Cup top scorer to net > 7" http://bitbet.us/bet/905/ Odds: 23(Y):77(N) by coin, 43(Y):57(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.19546549 BTC. Current weight: 13,597.
TheNewDeal: is that bet for a player or a team?
TheNewDeal: has to be a player
mike_c: new titles btw:
mike_c: https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/16/
assbot: Game 16 - Death 5244 Life 4756 - War of Life
TheNewDeal: does anyone know how this bet got accepted, given the new rules ? http://bitbet.us/bet/992/brazil-beats-germany/
assbot: BitBet - Brazil beats Germany :: 0.28 B (58%) on Yes, 0.2 B (42%) on No | closing in 1 day 22 hours | weight: 70`291 (100`000 to 10`000)
mike_c: TheNewDeal: probably cuz the last germany bet pulled in 13 BTC in like an hour.
artifexd: The current high scorer is James Rodriguez with 6 goals. He played for Colombia who is now out. The next is Muller from Germany with 4. They're playing Brazil next.
artifexd: In other words, betting no on 905 is pretty safe now.
TheNewDeal: Not seeing the 13btc/hr bet you spoke of mike_c . Did find these, which all had <10 BTC sum http://bitbet.us/bet/649/germany-to-enter-final-in-world-cup-2014/ http://bitbet.us/bet/938/world-cup-2014-germany-to-net-more-than/ http://bitbet.us/bet/931/germany-will-advance-from-the-2014-world-cup/
assbot: BitBet - Germany to enter final in World Cup 2014 :: 0.1 B (31%) on Yes, 0.22 B (69%) on No | closed 1 day 1 hour ago
assbot: BitBet - World Cup 2014: Germany to net more than 7 goals :: 5.84 B (92%) on Yes, 0.52 B (8%) on No | closed 5 days 22 hours ago
assbot: BitBet - Germany will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 2.7 B (95%) on Yes, 0.13 B (5%) on No | closed 1 week 4 days ago
mike_c: TheNewDeal: http://bitbet.us/bet/987/krautzes-send-france-home/
assbot: BitBet - Krautzes send France home :: 7.71 B (57%) on Yes, 5.75 B (43%) on No | closed 2 days 6 hours ago
TheNewDeal: ahhh
cazalla: artifexd: plus Neymar is out, he had 4
BingoBoingo: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/outrage-bitcoin-exchange-mt-gox-expenses-creditors-prepare-fly-japan/2014/07/06?mref=100
assbot: Outrage at Bitcoin Exchange Mt. Gox Expenses as Creditors Prepare to Fly to Japan
artifexd: Messi (Argentina) is still playing and has 4 as well. But in order for 905 to resolve as yes, one of them will have to score another 4 goals. Unlikely, in my opinion.
cazalla: i bet no a few times but it's still a chance if it's a Germany v Argentina final, which is my guess
artifexd: I don't think Germany will pass Brazil. I'd like to see Germany win, but I doubt it.
asciilifeform: unrelated - nick szabo is back?
artifexd: It isn't that I think Brazil is a better team. They're not. I think the refs are paid off.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13451 @ 0.00079436 = 10.6849 BTC [-]
dub: BingoBoingo: I like how the journalist is a butthurt creditor too
BingoBoingo: dub: Funny how this works? Most "Bitcoin Journalism" being carried out by either Butthurt creditors or soon to be Butthurt creditors.
decimation: asciilifeform : based on your hostname I assume you have a comcast "business" account to get 100 meg
asciilifeform: decimation: verizon
decimation: is it symmetric?
asciilifeform: decimation: nope. ~35 out.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00079298 = 3.9649 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: decimation: you can buy pretty much arbitrary bandwidth from them, the physical connection (fiber) is all the same.
decimation: I think the fios is actually time-multiplexed at the box in the ground near your house somewhere
asciilifeform: decimation: in these parts, the multiplexers are nailed to poles.
asciilifeform: decimation: pay more, get fatter slice.
asciilifeform: my own needs are very modest.
decimation: it's nice to have the peak capacity when you want it though
asciilifeform: yes, it is.
decimation: I actually am on asymmetric DSL
decimation: mainly because I am unwilling to hand verizon or comcast a single penny if I can avoid it
asciilifeform: funny part is, the net pipe is really the only thing around here that actually works as advertised. the mains, water, sewer - i had detectable problems with. the fiber - never.
decimation: I had a discussion with a guy who was high up in PEPCO once about the "mass panic" after the power outages after the "derecho" storm
decimation: I asked if their plan was to simply wait until everyone forgets about the situation and do nothing, and he confirmed that was the case
asciilifeform: an outage that lasts a week or so is not 'zombie apocalypse' - however, any longer and you learn things like http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2014#735017 ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
decimation: there was a TV show where they sampled the Potomac water going into the washington water system intake, and then sampled it going out
decimation: there were many strange organics that were hardly attenuated by the "purification" process
asciilifeform: decimation: pharma crud.
decimation: yeah, mostly that plus some industrial stuff
asciilifeform: some of these are very stable (if it survives your metabolic paths, it will probably survive the treatment plant)
decimation: wrt to the HMMWV: you were able to buy the whole truck for $700? Or just the radio?
asciilifeform: truck. but i didn't buy it
decimation: you would probably have to pay golden toliet prices for the parts
asciilifeform: (realized that it would be ruinously expensive to fuel.)
decimation: heh that too
asciilifeform: plus i have no real use for such a thing
asciilifeform: but there it was.
decimation: it was probably some junk in the DC armory that they parked somewhere "for security" or whatever
asciilifeform: it stood in a university surplus lot
asciilifeform: next to garbage trucks, buses, tractors, etc.
decimation: but it does reveal many truths about the way USG actually works, rather than the way everyone pretend it works
asciilifeform: decimation: it was the same kind - but not the particular truck pictured in the linked photo
asciilifeform: that one, if it wasn't clear, was spotted in the wild.
asciilifeform: and was not, afaik, advertised for sale.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00079298 = 18.5954 BTC [-]
decimation: oh I meant the truck in the picture, not the one you were offered
decimation: walking around DC during a "crisis" always turns up interesting bits of security hardware
asciilifeform: funny thing is, they trot out these ancient trucks every year
asciilifeform: on july 4 festival
asciilifeform: not on any semblance of parade, but just for 'security theatre'
asciilifeform: they contain (unarmed) grunts
decimation: I recall (in the 90's!) when you could walk into the capitol any time you wished with a metal detector screen
decimation: Back then you could also freely come and go to the mall during the 4th
asciilifeform: you can still come and go to the mall on the 4th
asciilifeform: if you can stomach the 'sardine can' trains
decimation: or the "checkpoints"
asciilifeform: they used to actually search people at the checkpoints
asciilifeform: but this year, saw no such thing
decimation: my biggest objection to the security theater is that it always devolves into a war on anything unusual
asciilifeform: usually it turns into a war on nail clippers, pocket knives, etc
decimation: "why are you carrying a non-functional computer onto the airplane sir"? "because I want to use it for parts"
decimation: if you just want to watch planes land, or trains go by, or boats sail past, like people over the centuries have done, you are suspicious
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00079436 = 15.8078 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.sfgate.com/news/science/article/Chinese-woman-charged-in-trade-secrets-theft-case-5595772.php
assbot: Chinese woman charged in trade secrets theft case - SFGate
gribble: The operation succeeded.
decimation: hey that's wall street's game (chinese woman spies) http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Bay-Area-inside-trader-Winifred-Jiau-convicted-2367259.php
assbot: Bay Area inside trader, Winifred Jiau, convicted - SFGate
mthreat: !up msnaughtykitty
mthreat: !up msnaughtykitty
mthreat: !up JonathanVaage
msnaughtykitty: Are they still doing the bitcoin for tits?
BingoBoingo: msnaughtykitty: Yeah, but mircea_popescu is offline atm it seems
msnaughtykitty: ok so that is who I need to look for I'm assuming?
BingoBoingo: Yeah
msnaughtykitty: Ok thank you so much I'll check back again :)
BingoBoingo: msnaughtykitty: Well he's on most of the time. If you linger long enough he'll stop by
msnaughtykitty: Ok I will try that :)
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/part-iii-pool-luck-network-luck-factors-involved/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00079299 = 10.864 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 923 @ 0.00171257 = 1.5807 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up AndrewJackson
BingoBoingo: !up msnaughtykitty
BingoBoingo: !up drawingthesun
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00079342 = 8.926 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00079298 = 19.0315 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21918 @ 0.00079683 = 17.4649 BTC [+] {2}
[]bot: Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "Facebook Myspace'd" http://bitbet.us/bet/771/ Odds: 24(Y):76(N) by coin, 31(Y):69(N) by weight. Total bet: 20.64011533 BTC. Current weight: 61,005.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 125 @ 0.03587814 = 4.4848 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00079864 = 7.3475 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24982 @ 0.00079864 = 19.9516 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34058 @ 0.00079296 = 27.0066 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: %d
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 458763.69 in 1678 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -41.57
BingoBoingo: !up phish
BingoBoingo: !up diatonic
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 457 @ 0.00171612 = 0.7843 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: !up crypto_x_
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/07/some-bitcoin-newsing-stuff/
BingoBoingo: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2a1475/the_problem_of_bitcoin_journalism_as_practiced/
assbot: The Problem of Bitcoin Journalism as practiced : Bitcoin
BingoBoingo: !up grahvity|
punkman: morning
BingoBoingo: !up Skirmant
BingoBoingo: Morning punkman
punkman just mailed all the fuckers that owe him money
punkman: time to work on something fun now
BingoBoingo: Cool
punkman: getting that css in the shell: http://i.imgur.com/PAE9ljr.png
BingoBoingo: Nice work
BingoBoingo: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/07/06/2121248/police-using-dogs-to-sniff-out-computer-memory
assbot: Police Using Dogs To Sniff Out Computer Memory - Slashdot
punkman: amazing dog, can sniff out child porn
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 309590 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 873 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 1 hour, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16753237297.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.38781
BingoBoingo: !up wilimprex
BingoBoingo: !up haos
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3391 @ 0.00079555 = 2.6977 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: !up Hola0123
FabianB: ;;ticker --currency eur --last
gribble: 465.558317
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 632.0, vol: 2166.92497490 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 626.1, vol: 1786.47265 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 634.86, vol: 1996.82286398 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 631.913672, vol: 3514.76070000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 638.973, vol: 2.78219549 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 626.68367188, vol: 14.30294288 | Volume-weighted last average: 631.452720935
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: Peeing Into Your Own ...: <http://www.buzzfeed.com/richardhjames/everyone-needs-to-stop-trying-to-make-peeing-into-your-own-m>
BingoBoingo: WTF gribble
punkman: lol
punkman: dafuq
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00079603 = 10.5076 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42200 @ 0.00079837 = 33.6912 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html ☟︎
assbot: The Pitchforks Are Coming For Us Plutocrats - Nick Hanauer - POLITICO Magazine
BingoBoingo: Welcome back to -assets mircea_popescu, you missed potential tits from <msnaughtykitty> they should be back sometime soon
mircea_popescu: cool
BingoBoingo: %t
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 225 Ask: 275 Last Price: 225 24h-Vol: 38k High: 226 Low: 225 VWAP: 225
punkman: "The folks like us at the top have always told those at the bottom that our respective positions are righteous and good for all. Historically, we called that divine right."
punkman: "What nonsense this is. Am I really such a superior person? Do I belong at the center of the moral as well as economic universe? Do you?"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27813 @ 0.00079603 = 22.14 BTC [-]
punkman: is that like pre-emptive cocksucking to appease the pitchfork wielders?
BingoBoingo: Kind of sounds that way
mircea_popescu: well what sort of q is that, without a sauce ?
punkman: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2014#747191 ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: but i would guess it's just some schmuck that realises he doesn't belong up there, and wants to move into a subordinate position in teh new republic. which... of course.
punkman: 4 pages of derp
mircea_popescu: o it's in the logs huh :D ok, getting to it.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, "Return to merchant and try a different payment method. We are not able to process your payment using your PayPal account at this time. Please return to the merchant's website and try using a different payment method (if available)."
mircea_popescu: do you suppose merchant had his pp acct locked since last month?
punkman: sounds like the problem is with your pp account
mircea_popescu: notrly.
mircea_popescu: it's a ~15 yo verified business acct. and it only failed one payment in a batch.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell moiety plz to add http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwQTrAMKhNM to /r/MensRights /r/AgainstFeminism /r/Conservajerk "Woman begging TheLastPsychiatrist to join some IRC channel" add NSFW tag. thanks!
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mircea_popescu: artifexd: I don't think Germany will pass Brazil. I'd like to see Germany win, but I doubt it. << get out, germany has like the best team at wc. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: unrelated - nick szabo is back? << he is ? then he;'s next!
artifexd: mircea_popescu: keep reading
mircea_popescu: lol kk
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: dub: Funny how this works? Most "Bitcoin Journalism" being carried out by either Butthurt creditors or soon to be Butthurt creditors. << dude with the golden mouth.
jurov: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10442564_552387954872056_3851848126136245319_n.jpg
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the gods of the bash will smite thee at this rate
BingoBoingo: Prolly
jurov: /smite BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: OMG it happened
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: decimation: mainly because I am unwilling to hand verizon or comcast a single penny if I can avoid it << so what, using diy internets ?
mircea_popescu: !up Hola0123
mircea_popescu: decimation: my biggest objection to the security theater is that it always devolves into a war on anything unusual << i think that's everyone's objection.
mircea_popescu: kinda why only doomed societies can significantly rely on security theater. it fundamentally relies on the productive parts of society having long left.
chetty: security theater is a giant sucking on time/resources
mircea_popescu: mother sleeping with its baby is also giant sucking on time/resources.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, makes the baby feel safe.
mircea_popescu: !up Hola0123
mircea_popescu: Hola0123 and who might you be
mircea_popescu: ahahah at "conspiracy to steal trade secrets from U.S. seed corn companies."
mircea_popescu: so i'm supposed to believe corn companies have secrets worth stealing now ?
BingoBoingo: I imagine in the new republic Security Theater will be a place people go to in order to watch follies of the failed republic reenacted
mircea_popescu: maybe it could be a monster truck rally.
mircea_popescu: "The loss to a U.S. seed corn manufacturer of a patented seed line is a minimum of $30 million to $40 million and from five to eight years of research time, Klinefeldt said."
mircea_popescu: chick is married to a guy worth 1.5 bn, spends her time stealing crap not really worth 30mn.
mircea_popescu: this makes so much fucking sense...
jurov: these dudes dream of patenting whole food supply
jurov: lost cause
mircea_popescu: obviously. the bonus of a "stable" state is rent seeking.
mircea_popescu: that politico article is really badly written.
mircea_popescu: "But the problem isn’t that we have inequality. Some inequality is intrinsic to any high-functioning capitalist economy. The problem is that inequality is at historically high levels and getting worse every day."
mircea_popescu: fuck you lol. as long as most people can afford internet, and running water, inequality is way way way too low.
mircea_popescu: as a rule of thumb, 80% of the population must eat when it can, not when it wants. that's NORMAL levels of inequality.
chetty: a lot of Detroit had water shut off, must be getting there
mircea_popescu: aite then.
mircea_popescu: but i mean, this "inequality" bs is just about to pass "global warming" in idiocy.
mircea_popescu: what am i supposed to believe random rich guy with the copy skils of a politico staff writer is writing copy for politico ?
mircea_popescu: "And also like you, I have been rewarded obscenely for my success, with a life that the other 99.99 percent of Americans can’t even imagine. Multiple homes, my own plane, etc., etc. You know what I’m talking about."
mircea_popescu: yeah, i know what he WANTS to be talking about. the problem is that he has no idea what he's talking about.
mircea_popescu: multiple homes pssh.
mircea_popescu: every fucktard with a college loan "looking to start a family" owns "multiple homes". out of which he and the girl will move out, to save on the rent.
chetty: marketwatch had piece about what actual rich people do, one thing they noted is that most of them you would never know because they dont live that way
mircea_popescu: this is one direct result of the insufficient inequality in the us and especially europe.
chetty: (well not wasting money is how a lot of people get to be rich ..oh and companies do well)
mircea_popescu: for that matter, i would wish to point out that i have not been rewarded obscenely for my success. for one thing, i have not "been rewarded". i rewarded myself. for the other thing, the only obscene part in all of this is that some schmuck dares write idiotic copy for politico instead of begging to shine my shoes.
mircea_popescu: fucktarded kids think if they drooled on textbooks for four years the useless bulshit they learned is going to work, and ima let passive mood stick because what, rich people are stupid, social studies dorks are made to rule the world ?
chetty: well the point of that crap is really to try and be sure the mob won't come after you, because you care!!!
mircea_popescu: no.
chetty: Note:doing anything is crass, but you must sound like you care!
mircea_popescu: the point of that crap is to make the mob think that it still has power.
mircea_popescu: you realise that shit isn't being read by the people it purports to address.
mircea_popescu: the entire thing is an implementation of mother "beating" the chair her stupid kid boinked his head on.
mircea_popescu: i dunno if you've ever seen this.
Mats_cd03: those it purports to address can barely read.
chetty: nope, just by other people wishing they had written it
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 you figure ?
mircea_popescu: chetty they "got a voice" right ?
chetty: ha, too damn many voices = cacophony
mircea_popescu: the caco in the phony comes from the shit in their heads.
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mircea_popescu: somehow everyone speaking at the same time results in cacophony but nevertheless "crowdsourcing". isn't this a bit dissonant ?
Mats_cd03: i am not impressed with his arguments
chetty: well crowdsourcing seems to be a pretty natural response to over regulation
Mats_cd03: .hk is a twister of inequality...one of the safest metros in the world
mircea_popescu: chetty yes, compared to organised stupidity, disorganised stupidity works better.
mircea_popescu: know what works even better than that ? inequality!
Mats_cd03: the peasants can be properly coerced into peace, history is that obvious
mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 only if you're comitted to it.
mircea_popescu: vlad the impaler can keep the peace in the middle of a warzone. john the stupid can't keep peace on an island.
mircea_popescu: o look, they don't call it john the stupid in english ? wtf is this lackland bs.
dub: %book
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asciilifeform: '80% of the population must eat when it can, not when it wants' >>
asciilifeform: !s the answer lies in the sewers
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chetty: oh btc on waroflife :)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is there a non pdf version of that ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/Ni7t20wY
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davout: jurov: so apparently dotcoin has been sent to the rape cage
davout: http://www.lepoint.fr/chroniqueurs-du-point/guerric-poncet/bitcoin-les-gendarmes-demantelent-une-plate-forme-en-france-07-07-2014-1843937_506.php
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davout: 388 btc seized
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: dotcoin had ~400 btc ?!
davout: i'm not sure it is dotcoin, but the cities and stupidity do match
mircea_popescu: "Slaves, Sewers and Captain Aguilera: Racism, colonialism and sexism in the Mentality of the Nationalist Officer Corps" asciilifeform i suspect this is going to be a little lopsided a retelling.
pankkake: 3 people? and they're not consistent on the cities
mircea_popescu: L'opération a été menée "dans le cadre d'une information ouverte notamment pour exercice illégal d'opérations de banque, offre de paris ou jeux d'argent et de hasard en ligne et travail dissimulé",
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a bit. but this is the only english language bio of the famous Conde de Alba de Yeltes.
mircea_popescu: "Les mis en cause étaient l'administrateur de ce site illégal, sa compagne et l'un de ses fournisseurs, lesquels ont été placés en garde à vue",
mircea_popescu: so translation, "french govt wanting to keep up with the us, seizes 400 btc from a guy, his gf and... well... they're french so a third guy"
davout: pankkake: whaddaya mean they're not consistent? nice does match with dotcoin
pankkake: header has "Cannes, Nice, Toulouse et Bruxelles. "
pankkake: well, it's just one added, ok
davout: hm
davout: i guess we'll see
mircea_popescu: Hatreds were intensified during the right-wing campaign for the elections of
mircea_popescu: February 1936 which prophesied that left-wing victory would mean ‘uncontrolled looting and
mircea_popescu: the common ownership of women’
mircea_popescu: spanish lol
davout: mircea_popescu: "they're french so a third guy" <<< lel
davout: bitcoinbourse.eu is still online tho
mircea_popescu: i wonder how come us socialists don't have this on the agenda btw ? pretty much the only way they could talk interest to the people politico is trying to talk to is by making harems the law of the land.
pankkake: http://www.abondance.com/actualites/20110809-11033-nouvelle-plainte-contre-google-pour-abus-de-position-dominante.html <= don't know if I published it earlier, but this is one of previous dotcoin's businesses (same address)
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pankkake: feminists took over the left, otherwise the "equal access to sex" might have existed
mircea_popescu: i did not say equal access to sex.
mircea_popescu: i said quite the contrary.
pankkake: that doesn't sound very socialist
mircea_popescu: i guess you've never seen socialism then.
mircea_popescu: the way socialism works in practice is making all the women of a generation into a college, and give common ownership over them to a selection of men.
mircea_popescu: "After the capture of Almendralejo, one thousand prisoners were shot including one hundred women.8 After the shootings, the remaining women were raped." << lol the righties were trying for it.
mircea_popescu: pankkake it's a midway solution : the women get the socialism they wanted, being all equal, and in this equality a little above the average from before. nobody cares about the betas anyway, and the actual males that actually matter don't mind the arrangement so much.
chetty: <mircea_popescu> i wonder how come us socialists don't have this on the agenda btw ? pretty much the only way they could talk interest to the people politico is trying to talk to is by making harems the law of the land.//only works if women cant vote
mircea_popescu: it's the arab socialism, which works in practice. this braindamged "socialism of the family" is beyond the lolz.
mircea_popescu: chetty one votes in socialism now ?!
chetty: well current socialism has this pretend voting thing going on
mircea_popescu: well sure.
mircea_popescu: they can vote on reality show results.
mircea_popescu: that work ?
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chetty: maybe it should be other way round, women get harem of X men each!
mircea_popescu: yeah. right.
mircea_popescu: because women are so totally willing to shoot anyone that pisses them off.
chetty: hmm ok thats a point, women with children only
mircea_popescu: that sounds like a great way to get yourself killed by your own children
mircea_popescu: for being a slut.
chetty: true equality at last :P
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: but srsly, it's unfeasible. the men will compete, so will the children.
asciilifeform: as i understand, harem as SOP is a recipe that has to include a 'meat grinder' (for burning off the untermenschen)
mircea_popescu: none have any sort of mothering instinct to downregulate it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well of course. why the fuck do you suppose afghanistan is undefeatable by the us ?
mircea_popescu: us grunt has a wife at home.
asciilifeform: though to some extent you can get around this by 'cycling' the females faster (see the mormon, or arab, practice of marrying off daughters at X but sons at 3X age)
mircea_popescu: afghani grunt doth not, nor will he ever.
mircea_popescu: that dun work.
mircea_popescu: the arabs only do it with selected girls (ie, direct descendants)
asciilifeform: ;;ud dependopotamus
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dependopotamus | Oct 16, 2008 ... An obese military members wife. AKA, BMW (Big Military Wife) The dependopotamus can often be found grazing at Burger King on any given ...
mircea_popescu: anyway. for all the "learning" these undersexed "social studies" postdocs have supposedly done
mircea_popescu: it's still shocking to me that three decades later they've STILL not figured out how to negotiate reality.
chetty: asciilifeform, that may be different now with birthcontrol
asciilifeform: http://birdmartin.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/dependapotamus1.gif
asciilifeform: chetty: it only works on people who... use it
chetty: asciilifeform, like the chinese
asciilifeform: chetty: the only birth control that works on the 'lumpen' folks is the kind pitched by Captain Aguilera.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform stalin had a pretty decent variant too
mircea_popescu: 'Yes, yes, something to love!' Ruska took him up in a triumphant, hoarse whisper. 'But not history or theory -you can only love a woman!' He leaned over to Nerzhin's bunk and grasped him by the elbow. 'What have they really taken away from us, tell me? The right to go to party meetings or to buy state bonds? The one way the Big Chief could really hurt us was to deprive us of women. And that's what he's done. For twenty
mircea_popescu: -five years! The Bastard! Who can imagine,' he struck his chest with his fist, 'what women mean to a prisoner?'
mircea_popescu: basically, the socialists needed the west front grinder like air. and once the war was over...
mircea_popescu: well... the gulag wasn't avoidable, not practically. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: to keep the country socialist one got to keep the country socialist, and that means keeping the cunts in a college and most of the guys off the market.
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pankkake: http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/29zw1g/post_your_favorite_lines_from_the_bitcoin_source/
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mircea_popescu: why does karpeles have such a pedo smile
mircea_popescu: "To me the real response is that you can't do what bitcoin wants to do on the internet without an external dependency."
mircea_popescu: "Imagine the market's reaction if a ddos took that single IP down and rendered worldwide mining impossible."
mircea_popescu: what the fuck, who do they think runs stock derpcode ?
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mircea_popescu: centralist mindest at work, you know, he does exactly what his government tells you so obviously bitcoin miners couldn't be different so obviously nobody has heard of just replacing that with the proper ip of their machine
mircea_popescu: and so "bitcoin mining would stop working"
mircea_popescu: except it never has, tho showmyip was down plenty of times since 2009
mircea_popescu: herpyderp and a bottle of buttheads.
asciilifeform: it's considerably funnier when crapware authors hardcode 'showmyip' or similar.
mircea_popescu: like who, apple ?
asciilifeform: trojan artists
mircea_popescu: a
asciilifeform: seemingly inexplicably, some of the dumbest people alive.
mircea_popescu: not that inexplicably. they didn't find a better avenue.
mircea_popescu: "This was simply that the right coped with the loss of a ‘real’ overseas empire by internalising the empire, that is to say, by regarding metropolitan Spain as the empire and the proletariat as the subject colonial race." << that's actually an interesting point.
asciilifeform: that was sorta the thesis of the article
asciilifeform: 'internal recolonialization'
asciilifeform: one russian fellow (forget which) called the scheme 'colony with the state as sole european'
mircea_popescu: curious what the authors applying the principle to the us would come up with.
asciilifeform: orlov.
davout: jurov pankkake not dotcoin appartently -> http://www.lesechos.fr/finance-marches/banque-assurances/afp-00609051-demantelement-en-france-dun-trafic-de-bitcoins-une-premiere-en-europe-1022410.php
assbot: Dmantlement en France d'un trafic de bitcoins, une "premire en Europe", Banque - Assurances
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as described here: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-rationale-behind-boston-psy-ops.html
assbot: ClubOrlov: The Rationale behind the Boston Psy-ops
mircea_popescu: "Hay que sembrar el terror… hay que dar la sensación de dominio eliminando sin escrúpulos ni vacilación a todos los que no piensen como nosotros. "
mircea_popescu: lmao nuts.
mircea_popescu: why's the intuition that any system predicated on having to kill dissenters is never going to win so hard to come to ?
asciilifeform: well, we kill cockroaches, mice, etc. without imagining that they'll ever really run out
mircea_popescu: but for what they are.
mircea_popescu: not for what they think.
mircea_popescu: we'll be killing people for having been involved with governments soon enough.
mircea_popescu: but nobody wil care what they think.
mircea_popescu: just what they've been.
asciilifeform: if roaches could think - we would probably cite their thoughts at their tribunals
mircea_popescu: nope
mircea_popescu: if roaches could think i'd prolly keep some around.
asciilifeform: lol
chetty: http://dailysignal.com/2014/07/05/federal-officials-propose-8-foot-fences-protect-endangered-mice/
assbot: Federal Officials Propose 8-Foot Fences to Protect Endangered Mice
asciilifeform: chetty: another solar farm racket ?
chetty: I guess someone wants to think mice will run out
asciilifeform: chetty: don't imagine anyone actually gives a shit about rare mouse
mircea_popescu: well listen, if they're cute and run out the "entire economy" might grind to a halt.
asciilifeform: see earlier example with solar plant contractor
mircea_popescu: "They killed one thousand, six hundred of the town’s inhabitants as well as repeatedly raping young women considered to be of the left." << what was the test, i wonder ?
mircea_popescu: left tit higher than right tit ?
mircea_popescu: (should work, it's usually the case)
asciilifeform: chetty: example: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/04/12/bombshell-harry-reid-behind-bundy-cattle-ranch-scandal-according-to-purged-documents-112136
assbot: Harry Reid connected to Bundy cattle ranch, according to purged documents - BizPac Review
chetty: lots of 'land grabs' are based on 'saving' something. Soon enough US will be like Spain, landowner(gubermint) and peasants
pankkake: davout: the link to an altcoin casino is still in favor to BitcoinBourse. however dotcoin is german
davout: pankkake: yeah they mention tunisian, hence, not dotcoin
davout: what's the casino link you're referring to ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i recall reading that way back when the scandal broke
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pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579498.0
assbot: delete
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was loudly, repeatedly 'debunked' by the mouthpiece organs
mircea_popescu: right.
pankkake: https://twitter.com/bitcoinbourse/status/473233659714342912
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mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
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davout: pankkake: mebbe he's in the mix somehow, anyway
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mircea_popescu: Mola wanted Sperrle to destroy Basque industry. With Bilbao about to fall to the Nationalists, this request disconcerted the German. Mola said ‘if half of all Spanish factories were destroyed by our aircraft, the subsequent reconstruction of Spain would be greatly facilitated. However, the Nationalist government could not just destroy industry once victory was assured.’ ‘Spain is dominated in a totally sick w
mircea_popescu: ay by the industries of Catalonia and the Basque Country. For Spain to be made healthy, they have to be destroyed. The German Chief of Staff Wolfram von Richthofen listened thunderstruck then recited to Mola all the reasons why it was madness to destroy a country’s industrial base, telling him that ‘I have never in my life heard such idiocy’ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: o.O someone gave zee nazis pause.
asciilifeform: gandhi wanted precisely this, in his motherland - but for some reason nobody remembers.
mircea_popescu: not a different reason in any sense
mircea_popescu: ghandi wanted old men to sleep naked with their nieces forever.
mircea_popescu: mola wanted his sons to go riding in a field where pretty girls labored with their hands forever. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the point makes sense, if the choice is between ten dollars when everyone has one or a hundred dollars when everyone has a hundred, then to be rich is to have ten dollars.
asciilifeform: herr Richthofen, however, understood that if your agrarian paradise can't produce airplanes by the thousand, it is the prison bitch of the folks who can.
asciilifeform: obligatory:
asciilifeform: !s you and the atomic bomb
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mircea_popescu: well obviously.
mircea_popescu: but whether an ideal works or does not work has little ideal implication.
asciilifeform: obvious - to us. but, apparently, not to the folks who desperately wanted a return to whichever century they connected their childhood with
mircea_popescu: which poses quite the conundrum to ideologies predicated on ideal purity
mircea_popescu: hence the sperrle shock.
mircea_popescu: which also makes all this talk of "fighting corruption" rather dubious. if not corruption then purity, and consequently... mola's paradise ?
asciilifeform: 'fight corruption' is always 'fight the other fellow's corruption so i can cash in'
asciilifeform: and never any other thing
mircea_popescu: not verbally.
asciilifeform: see the 'insider trading' prosecutions in usa, for example./
mircea_popescu: but they never say "corruption is great but this other fellow i sdoing it wrong"
mircea_popescu: which is a problem.
mircea_popescu: gives the fucktards (like say the people reading politico) the wrong impression.
mircea_popescu: and the problem with fucktards is that they're always the children, which means they'll have to mange on their own someday.
mircea_popescu: and that day... tehy'll try to implement their mistaken ideas about corruption, to great lulz.
chetty: <mircea_popescu> and that day... tehy'll try to implement their mistaken ideas about corruption, to great lulz.<<<isn't that like now
mircea_popescu: not yet.
mircea_popescu: the great ideological purity revolution hasn't happened yet in the us.
mircea_popescu: we're still in the "Structural weaknesses of democracy as displayed in the corrupt weimar republic" phase.
mircea_popescu: 1934 or w/e
pankkake: so who's likely to become america's hitler?
mircea_popescu: we don't see him yet.
mircea_popescu: he's prolly serving time on a petty charge somewhere in pittsburgh
mircea_popescu: he's got plenty of time yet.
pankkake: I propose we kill all american painters, as a safety precaution
mircea_popescu: nah
mircea_popescu: i bet you he'll be something like a tv cable guy.
mircea_popescu: pre-netflix dvd shop owner
pankkake: ah ah
chetty: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/07/children-of-same-sex-couples-are-happier-and-healthier-than-peers-research-shows/
assbot: Children of same-sex couples are happier and healthier than peers, research shows - The Washington Post
asciilifeform: alternatively, a 'stalin' biography, our führer is soon to fail out of bob jones bible college.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and spend some time robbing banks in... what's the us equivalent, south carolina ?
asciilifeform: aye
chetty: prolly a tranny, raised by same sex parents
pankkake: chetty: 100% wanted children. DUH
mircea_popescu: chetty i'll give you 10 to 1 against
mircea_popescu: pankkake shut up and stop expecting statistics to be used scientifically by the social studies bunch.
pankkake: yeah the question is what's next after a (albeit half) black president
asciilifeform: pankkake: what's next >> clitler.
chetty: female of course
mircea_popescu: which us republic is this anwyay ? 3rd ?
asciilifeform: 4th
asciilifeform: (per mr mold)
mircea_popescu: how's that count go ?
asciilifeform: ;;google moldbug usg4
gribble: USG: more Russian than the Tsar, more Muslim than Osama: <http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2011/05/usg-more-russian-than-tsar-more-muslim.html>; Unqualified Reservations: September 2010: <http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2010_09_01_archive.html>; AIACC – Call For Papers | Handle's Haus: <http://handleshaus.wordpress.com/2013/09/16/aiacc-call-for- (1 more message)
pankkake: yes, female's my bet too
mircea_popescu: can i has summary ?
asciilifeform: 'The chronic UR reader will be familiar with my own humble periodization of American history, arranged by constitutional singularity: USG 1, the Congressional Republic, 1774-89; USG 2, the Original Deal, 1789-1861; USG 3, the Old Deal, 1861-1933; USG 4, the New Deal, 1933-present.'
asciilifeform: (http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2010/12/monetary-reconstruction-presented.html)
asciilifeform: imho it's a pretty useful cut-up
mircea_popescu: coming up for a redeal huh.
chetty folds
mircea_popescu: 70ish years apart these
mircea_popescu: course that's the thesis to begin with, im sure.
asciilifeform: usg1 - 'idealism', attempt at actual federation of independent states; usg2 - strong federal / centralized, slave states alive; usg3 - slave states zapped, vestiges of state autonomy removed, capitalism; usg4 - the one we know and love. ☟︎
cazalla: chetty: the man that ran that study is a fag who raises a couple boys with his faggy partner and does it right here in melbourne, australia :\
mircea_popescu: cazalla lol wait, self reported studies ?!
mircea_popescu: ahaha gotta love the magic shows.
cazalla: yes, they asked the faggy parents
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fairness, usg1 failed on its own merits.
asciilifeform: naturally
cazalla: the guy who ran it is always on tv talk shows, newspapers here promoting that degeneracy
chetty: cazalla, mircea_popescu typical of whats called science these days
asciilifeform: no martians landed to zap it.
mircea_popescu: cazalla i take it you against gay people raising children ?
cazalla: yeah as well as single parents
mircea_popescu: how about daycare ?
cazalla: nope, none of that either
mircea_popescu: so woman stuck at home ?
pankkake: funny how 80% of parents are female though
cazalla: if she has children, that's her place
mircea_popescu: so then if you hook up with intelligent women you can never have children ?
cazalla: breastfeeding too, no formula, had to really drive that home with the missus
cazalla: intelligent women don't have children though
cazalla: or not as many anyway
chetty: hmmmm
mircea_popescu: you see how this may become a problem ?
asciilifeform: 'may become' ?
mircea_popescu: shh
pankkake still wonders how scientific Idiocracy is
mircea_popescu: it's cinematific :D
chetty: pankkake, I think it is upon us
cazalla: yeah, i know where you're headed with this
asciilifeform idiocracy << prefers the old, paper version, 'the marching morons'
cazalla: a woman can be smart and be a housewife
mircea_popescu: not for long.
cazalla: they've just been sidetracked with this have a career at the same time
mircea_popescu: interacting with idiots makes you one, and children are born idiots.
mircea_popescu: the only practical way to keep the women intellectually stimulated enough in your scheme is to make a harem.
cazalla: i prefer to look at my son as a blank slate, perhaps even a fresh start :P
mircea_popescu: which is obviously where things are going, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: yah, that'd be the definition of idiocy. blank state.
chetty: children are never balnk slates
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cazalla: genetics wise?
chetty: cazalla, trust me kids have a personality from day 1
mircea_popescu: chetty personality is not intelligence however. idiocy speaks to the noggin not the thymus.
chetty: mircea_popescu, yeah, but even the idiots are not blanks
cazalla: not sure about from day 1
mircea_popescu: well, "blank for our purposes"
cazalla: from my own observations, up until 3 months, all his behaviour seemed instinctual, feed me etc
chetty: cazalla, but even that has parameters, some are more demanding for instance
asciilifeform: instinctual leaves plenty of room for variation. ask a fellow who keeps dogs.
mircea_popescu: cazalla just that some kids grab the tit and some don't is enough.
asciilifeform: ;;google marshmallow experiment
gribble: Stanford marshmallow experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment>; The Marshmallow Test - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX_oy9614HQ>; Joachim de Posada: Don't eat the marshmallow! | Talk Video | TED ...: <http://www.ted.com/talks/joachim_de_posada_says_don_t_eat_the_marshmallow_yet>
mircea_popescu: actually i recall this hilarious scene where mother was trying to feed baby while bent over it, using her hands to work
mircea_popescu: and baby kept kicking tit out of his mouth
cazalla: ours is a good baby though, started sleeping through nights from 3 months, only cries if hungry, not demanding at all
mircea_popescu: then being puzzled for the second while it settled down back in his mouth
chetty: cazalla, see even you described 'good baby'
cazalla: as long as we respond to whatever it is he wanted, his demands cease, doesn't seem like personality to me
mircea_popescu: o.O
cazalla: good as in good for me and wife
mircea_popescu: ‘Spanish grandeur was at its height in the Sixteenth Century, when the sun never set on her dominions. Our great century, the century of the mystics, the saints and the artists. The century of the Spanish Empire! Well, do you know how many inhabitants our fatherland had then when it was truly great? Twelve millions! What does it matter is half the population has to disappear if that is what is required for us t
mircea_popescu: o reconquer our Empire?’
mircea_popescu: ahahah these fucking idiots lmao.
mircea_popescu: at the time spain was 12 million, england was 2.8, and the only thing keeping everyone from sucking caliph cock was the difficulty in traversing 5000 miles with an army
asciilifeform: 'hatefacts!'
mircea_popescu: even so spanyards today are about as white as the sicilians.
mircea_popescu: which, to quote mr whorley,
mircea_popescu: "It's a fact. Yeah. You see, uh, Sicilians have, uh, black blood pumpin' through their hearts. Hey, no, if eh, if eh, if you don't believe me, uh, you can look it up. Hundreds and hundreds of years ago, uh, you see, uh, the Moors conquered Sicily. And the Moors are niggers."
cazalla: so am i wrong to oppose gays marrying and raising children?
mircea_popescu: cazalla there's no wrong dude. you think whatever you think.
cazalla: they raise kids as it is anyway so guess it doesn't really matter
mircea_popescu: unsurprisingly, your thinking has problems.
mircea_popescu: so has everyone else's.
mircea_popescu: pick a set of problems you can live with.
cazalla: well yes you said this many months ago when you said it was xenophobic
cazalla: said i
cazalla: that it too had problems
mircea_popescu: !s xenophobic
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pankkake: well given that most couples appear to be females, there's not much you can do anyway
mircea_popescu: pankkake nor does it make much practical difference. it's like better daycare, if they didn't adopt they'd be hired to care for those kids in a state run institution.
pankkake: there really isn't a lack of parents wanting to adopt
cazalla: daycare is degenerate
mircea_popescu: cazalla why ?
mircea_popescu: pankkake i dunno about that.
pankkake: at least if you want a western kid
pankkake: most adoption agencies said gays won't be a priority, so adoption through that is going to be… never
chetty: abortion on demand tends to produce a shortage of adoptable babies
pankkake: yes clearly
cazalla: it just doesn't make sense to pay someone else to raise your kid, someone that you don't really know, seems more a convenience for parents so they can work to purchase trinkets
mircea_popescu: chetty last i checked us foster homes were undersupplied badly.
mircea_popescu: cazalla it makes the following sense : your wife will only learn to fuck so well it'll surprise you if you send her to work in a brothel.
mircea_popescu: and your kids are only going to make you proud if they spend time with strangers.
chetty: mircea_popescu, foster is different, child services just loves to take and place kids
cazalla: even that would not help my wife
cazalla: sure, as he grows up but some of this women stick their kid in day care at 3 months just so they can get back to work, seems a critical time for mother/child
mircea_popescu: well yes.
mircea_popescu: but now you're discussing degree, not the principle of the matter.
chetty: daycare seems more needed since kids cant play outside
mircea_popescu: chetty not to mention all those kids at the border :p
pankkake: for many, it's not a choice anymore - the man only can not afford to feed his family… when there is a man
pankkake: !up ltcpro
mircea_popescu: pankkake which simply means that man shouldn't have a family in the first place.
cazalla: yes but it's only not a choice because women decided to value careers over being a homekeeper
mircea_popescu: cazalla men decided to value women that value other shit than homekeeping.
cazalla: funny that men didn't have problems paying the bills, mortage etc when women stayed at home
mircea_popescu: this predates the sufragettes by about half a century.
mircea_popescu: it's all male driven. even if not driven by most of the males. it's driven by the males that matter, which are the males women care about anyway.
mircea_popescu: this entire nonsense depicting feminism as a woman driven thing... heh. mkay.
mircea_popescu: they're just trying to serve.
pankkake: tax structure. work is heavily taxed, services often offers tax reductions
mircea_popescu: pankkake i don't follow this argument.
pankkake: I don't think this is a "natural" change
pankkake: a single worker has less purchasing power than before
mircea_popescu: of course.
mircea_popescu: only because you use a bizarre standard tho.
mircea_popescu: he can buy more grain than before.
mircea_popescu: it's just you somehow decided it's ok for the worker to buy magic tools nowadays.
cazalla: can he buy more mcdonalds though
mircea_popescu: how much was an ipad "before" ?
mircea_popescu: cazalla nope.
mircea_popescu: before he couldn't either. he ate humble pie.
asciilifeform: can't live in an 'ipad' though.
cazalla: healthier
pankkake: what about housing/medical/education?
mircea_popescu: "When war broke out, the village was collectivised and
mircea_popescu: food supplies rationed until fields could be tilled and the harvest came in. His fighting bulls
mircea_popescu: were killed for food and the villagers tasted red meat for the first time in their lives. "
mircea_popescu: single worker, before. ate red meat for the first time in his life... accidentally.
asciilifeform: the only interesting costs, to monitor, for the question of 'what could worker afford then vs now' is food and rent
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can either compare same exact item, ie, grain. literally. grain
chetty: and energy
mircea_popescu: or else scale. if you scale you make some implications.
asciilifeform: housing - at least in usa - is where the real racket is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from what i recall ohio was cheap :p
mircea_popescu: "before" the poor laborer only lived in town if an actual townsman took him as a household slave.
asciilifeform: notice also that the 'technology' - as in, the nature of the actual 'machine that keeps the rain out' has regressed, rather than advanced.
asciilifeform: ohio is 'cheap' to the californian who never sets foot there.
mircea_popescu: no, objectively. what was it, 30k to buy ?
mircea_popescu: 1k ounces of silver for a property is less than what it was. "before".
asciilifeform: see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2014#607004 ☝︎
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nubbins`: !s stochastic
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform looky here. either one is an engineer (ie, guild member) or not.
mircea_popescu: if he is, then this discussion is not about him.
mircea_popescu: if he is not he should stop pretending.
chetty: well with all the landgrab people are getting forced into the urban areas
mircea_popescu: now as before :D
asciilifeform: in usa, the discussion concerns more or less everyone
mircea_popescu: god i love this before device.
asciilifeform: even the supposedly 'rich'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what everyone ?
nubbins`: korea has been slowly migrating to seoul since the 50s
asciilifeform: housing racket is just one of the mechanisms used in usa to separate folks from their 'excess fat', but it is the one best visible to unarmed eye
mircea_popescu: what do you mean by "folk" ?
nubbins`: rubes
mircea_popescu: the multitude of laborers that'd like to pretend themselves townsfolk ?
asciilifeform: with mechanisation of agriculture, everyone is stuck pretending to be a burgher
mircea_popescu: no, inasmuch as some actually are.
asciilifeform: some - yes.
nubbins`: y'know, i come here for the socioeconomic discourse more than anything else
mircea_popescu: granted, having the rest pretend like they're included rather than being shot a la franco is a great accolade for the burgher press
mircea_popescu: but it ain't changing the substance, as good packaging as it may be.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` :p
nubbins`: c'est vrai!
mircea_popescu: kinda why college education is so important, and its widening so unavoidable, and including the blacks so paramountly important.
mircea_popescu: a critical mass of laborers that stop trying to pretend like they're burghers could well be the end of it
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mircea_popescu: hence all the "red pill" talk.
asciilifeform: let's go straight to the guild. the proverbial google grunt, who pays 150k usd / yr. to live in auto range of his 200k gig - is he a proper burgher? or peon imposter?
mircea_popescu: peon imposter.
mircea_popescu: the measuring stick is very simple to implement : post on your blog something about niggers.
mircea_popescu: if you're fine a year later, you're a burgher.
mircea_popescu: any other outcome, such as not having a blog, or the word on your keyboard, or a job after ?
mircea_popescu: peon impostor.
asciilifeform: might be too easy - some folks have very apathetic inquisitors attached
mircea_popescu: that's what burghers got : the franchise, ie, th right to express themselves.
mircea_popescu: ok, so tell your boss you're not doing X. period.
mircea_popescu: same thing.
mircea_popescu: that's the deep problem with the baker not wanting to bake gay cake.
asciilifeform: easier to go with the ancient formula - live off salary? peon. live off capital? burgher
mircea_popescu: he thinks himself a burgher. the guild begs to differ.
mircea_popescu: it's not either easy or effectual, because capital is no longer meaniungful in fiat
asciilifeform: aka 'fuck you money' etc
mircea_popescu: but ok, if you live off your bitcoin investments, then yes.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, nobody has any capital. inasmuch as they can't just wire it to bin laden's boys if they choose to.
cazalla: yeah, i live off my capital atm but i'm a peon
cazalla: so that doesn't work
asciilifeform: who doesn't want to be burgher.
mircea_popescu: historically, hunters.
asciilifeform: aye, the nomads.
asciilifeform: (anyone who wants to be nomad - straight to herr orlov)
cazalla: whiskey and gay parent talk and now you have me rattled
mircea_popescu: !up everclear
mircea_popescu: !up fluffyghost
BingoBoingo: !up Corey
BingoBoingo: !up darlidada
BingoBoingo: !up julmac
BingoBoingo: !up B0g4r7
nubbins`: !up GNULinuxGuy
nubbins`: !up Guest26237
mircea_popescu: ""For instance, we’ll be done with this nonsense of equality for women. I breed horses and animals generally, you understand. I know all about women. There’ll be no more nonsense about subjecting a gentleman to court action. If a woman’s unfaithful to him, he’ll shoot her like a dog. It’s disgusting, any interference of a court between a man and a wife.’
mircea_popescu: right, because she's going to be unfaithful with martians.
mircea_popescu: i'd be really curious to see how that'd work in practice, this state which doesn't get involved in sex distribution.
mircea_popescu: seeing how it's never existed, historically.
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jurov: lol cazalla what are single parents to do? get rationed a partner by state or by family?
jurov: try saying that to your missus she should do it if something hapens to you
jurov: you might want to take responsibility to your hands and line up ersatz man yourself
ThickAsThieves: lol Ver offered $10 to the Ross Ulbricht defense for every retweet, 16,500 later he says "More retweets welcome, but the donation limit has been reached."
nubbins`: "every"
cazalla: jurov: if i died, i'd expect her to try and find another provider but most single parents aren't single because they're widows
cazalla: they're single parents because they're strong, proud women who don't need no man.. now that they've taken him for half his shit
jurov: how many woman are single because man knocked them and stopped caring after? they're in same position as widows
cazalla: she should've made a better choice in partner then
cazalla: or her parents should've arranged a marriage to man who would provide for her and child
nubbins`: ;;ud trite
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ThickAsThieves: http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2014/07/06/328466757/columbusing-the-art-of-discovering-something-that-is-not-new
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cazalla: i think it's a reasonable ideal
cazalla: because tax payer foots the bill for her mistake so she can stay home
cazalla: it's almost like you're being cuckolded by the government cause i have to pay for someone elses kid
cazalla: anyway i've been drinking so pay no attention, i will berate degenerates for their lifestyle on one hand and look for another girlfriend on the other
nubbins`: taxpayer foots the bill for everybody's everything
ThickAsThieves: http://newsbtc.com/2014/07/07/isis-blog-global-jihad/
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nubbins`: it's like i have to pay for firefighters even though my house isn't on fire blah blah etc
nubbins` makes masturbatory gesture
jurov: "she made mistake" problem conveniently sweeped under the carpet
ThickAsThieves: "This system has the potential to revive the lost sunnah of donating to the mujahideen, it is simple, easy, and we ask Allah to hasten it’s usage for us."
nubbins`: implying raising a kid alone is super fun
cazalla: i'm not saying that at all
jurov: singles, lesbians and gays raised children ever since. some "shoulds" won't change anything about it.
cazalla: yeah look for what it's worth, missus good friend is gay and he's a good bloke and came to visit us in hospital and i didn't shoo him away because i know him
pankkake: cazalla> it's almost like you're being cuckolded by the government => yep
nubbins`: implying that there aren't just as many two-parent families getting government money
pankkake: nubbins`: I don't know, there's a significant portion of women who aim to be single mothers
cazalla: i'm quite ok with cutting off funding to all of them
pankkake: I can't understand it but…
nubbins`: there's a significant portion of amish in pennsylvania
jurov: pankkake what's hard to understand about there are no worthy guys?
pankkake: lol
cazalla: if no worthy guys, how do women manage to have a baby then
cazalla: all piv rape?
jurov: sperm count has little realtion to ability to manage a house
nubbins`: ^
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pankkake: Un ami pour le chic, un amant pour le choc, un mari pour le chèque
cazalla: plus if women didn't have single parent payments to fall back on, they'd might make a better choice in selecting a mate to have a baby with
cazalla: single parent pension in australia - $713.20
cazalla: a fortnight
cazalla: it's almost like they encourage women to do this
cazalla: ill shut up now, i will feel foolish reading logs tmw
pankkake: it's an encouragement, I just wonder whether it is intentional
cazalla: maybe MP is right in saying problem is with masses of men
pankkake: remember that marxists wanted to break families; children raised by the community
asciilifeform: naturally intentional. folks like huxley, etc. who imagined that the totalitarian kingdoms of the future would farm children in mass orphanages got it all wrong. the 'children of the state' are instead grown - like described above.
pankkake: and family can be seen as an adversary to socialism. better to have people alone, lost, with no social structure to fall back on except the State
jurov: lol we're back to conspirations
cazalla: well, i was gonna mention jews
jurov: for me, much simpler picture emerged in past days
cazalla: or merchant conspiracies heh rubs hands
fluffypony: it's the illuminati
cazalla: someone make a titty video to get alex jones in here
jurov: people (of both sexes) enjoy participating in system where the results are by several levels removed from their efforts
jurov: this was not the case before
jurov: when it comes to childrearing, the results are not avoidable but one is not prepared to handle it
pankkake: why does it have to be a conspiracy?
jurov: you picture above as tsome sinister goal of socialism
cazalla: they won't take from my pocket much longer, aging population here in australia, no-one is having kids so no tax payers to fund aged care, total welfare state where 1 in 4 receive some type of benefit, it ends soon
jurov: but it grew pretty organically
pankkake: socialists dislike family, thus will approve things that undermine it
pankkake: it doesn't need concerted effort
jurov: so what? we have gotten us to the point we have enough surplus food to feed them. this isn't the core of the problem
jurov: and it you propose starving, then you run in the case that starved people are yet more irrational
asciilifeform: if only feeding people turned them 'rational'...
pankkake: http://www.challenges.fr/economie/20140624.CHA5358/la-caisse-de-retraite-complementaire-des-cadres-en-deficits.html <= was going to link this, a pension fund that is starting to have financial issues - the video below… BITCOIN
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BingoBoingo: Well, feeding people might be why china wants to steal all of the cutting edge seed corn
pankkake: if only corn was food
pankkake: I'd rather have soylent green
jurov: yeah, lets go back before neolithic revolution, that solves everything
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'terminator seed' is actually a very intriguing instrument from the standpoint of the mega-state. solves the ancient problem of the peasants not really needing the state for much of anything (as described in j. scott's 'the art of not being governed.') ☟︎
asciilifeform: won't play ball? no seeds for next crop.
cazalla: life finds a way, you have not seen jurassic park?
asciilifeform: i can easily imagine chinese gov. handing out chicom-monsanto seeds, aerial spray of 'roundup' at public expense
asciilifeform: cazalla: death also finds a way. (caught planting unauthorized organism? firing squad.)
BingoBoingo: Indeed. Sure the hybrids popular now aren't technically terminator seeds yet, but... Carrying them another generation yeilds... little.
BingoBoingo: Pulling tassels off of the wrong rows of corn to prevent the wrong hybrids at the seed farms is a thing for a reason...
cazalla: we've got dodgson here! how would they catch you? unenforceable law isn't it?
asciilifeform: cazalla: the interesting thing is that they needn't catch anyone. merely spray herbicide (authorized crop is resistant. others - not.)
BingoBoingo: In the Middle West private investigators that collect samples from fields to sent to the various seed vendors to check for unlicensed use of their "IP" is a thing
asciilifeform: the chinese could always go with the retarded (though 'humane') american style subjugation of the farmers - i.e. by herding them into growing crud for which the market is mostly artificial, built by government hands
asciilifeform: !s trilema the corn thing
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kakobrekla: hah, the replacement ps2 adapter only has 1 bad solder joint instead of 3
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: when grunting over a bad solder joint, remember to say 'thank you' to the lead ban folks.
kakobrekla: heh
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: private investigators that collect samples from fields << always wondered why they aren't simply shot on sight
asciilifeform: - in principle, they're tresspassers, no ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, it's a cat and mouse game. The snoop gets more practice and even farmers sleep.
asciilifeform: do they even occasionally eat lead?
kakobrekla: at least the copper layer was not ripped of the board on this one so its fixable
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: also thank the lead-free folks for separated tracks. high melting point of lead-free alloy -> hot iron -> lifted tracks
BingoBoingo: Well, I dunno if they did that the masters would ever admit what they were
nubbins`: i lifted a pad once when modifying an expensive synth
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: these people must already have 'special' legal status - even the copyrasts are not yet permitted to burgle houses to determine who has w4r3z, etc.
nubbins`: sad times
kakobrekla: asciilifeform dunno it seems mostly low end china fabs have this issue
kakobrekla: _mostly_
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: yes. they're using soldering equipment designed for leaded alloy - on lead-free
kakobrekla: aha
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, the copyrastas don't have vulnerable targets sitting literally outdoors, and that may have been stolen only in the sense of pollen from a neighboring field blew over essentially stealing itself
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, mircea_popescu, others: re: electronics-sniffing dog << distraction psyop. in real life, hidden electronics are found with a nonlinear junction detector. ☟︎
asciilifeform: (basic physical principle - any semiconductor is a rectifier. any conductor is antenna. together - 'rfid' whether you wanted or not.)
nubbins`: !s mycelium
assbot: 21 results for 'mycelium' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mycelium
chetty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4aBIti2nKU
assbot: ABC News says patients are lining up to take the Mark of the Beast - YouTube
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> they're single parents because they're strong, proud women who don't need no man.. now that they've taken him for half his shit << nah, most are single for jurov's reason.
nubbins`: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/07/07/0228259/tsa-prohibits-discharged-electronic-devices-onto-planes
assbot: TSA Prohibits Discharged Electronic Devices Onto Planes - Slashdot
nubbins` chuckles
nubbins`: phones must be TURNED ON AND IN AIRPLANE MODE
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> nubbins`: I don't know, there's a significant portion of women who aim to be single mothers << you mean on the internet or irl ?
nubbins` continues chuckling
pankkake: irl
mircea_popescu: <jurov> sperm count has little realtion to ability to manage a house << for srs.
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> plus if women didn't have single parent payments to fall back on, they'd might make a better choice in selecting a mate to have a baby with << also a good point.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that you don't really want to live i nthe society which forces you t obe the sort of guy that's a good mate to have a baby with.
mircea_popescu: you wish to live in the society where you can pretend trhat you're cool and have gfs.
cazalla: yeah that's true
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> someone make a titty video to get alex jones in here << i don' do manboobs
mircea_popescu: cazalla well if it's true then what do you want, it has some drawbacks.
asciilifeform: st augustine's 'god, grant me chastity and continence, but not yet!'
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mircea_popescu: actually i see jurov stated it above. exactly it.
mircea_popescu: you want sexual promiscuity for yourself, it'll be the norm, especially if you're banal. it being the norm... it'll be the norm, stop bitchin'.
mircea_popescu: !up indiancandy1
cazalla: i want some indian candy lol
cazalla: i can't afford to have both at this time so perhaps that's where the frustration really comes from
asciilifeform: can't help but recall the american expression 'indian gift'
asciilifeform: (i.e. one with 'strings')
cazalla: not that sort of indian asciilifeform
indiancandy1: indian gift means?
mircea_popescu: also yes, as usual : the main utility of monsanto bs actually is in china.
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 a gift someone asks back.
indiancandy1: thats rud
indiancandy1: rud
indiancandy1: e
indiancandy1: do people do that
mircea_popescu: english settlers didn't understand redskin ownership systems
indiancandy1: id tell them 2 fuck off
mircea_popescu: they wanted "permanent" indians did "for a while"
ThickAsThieves: <+indiancandy1> do people do that /// mostly children and governments
pankkake: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_giver
assbot: Indian giver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
indiancandy1: ahh i see
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sexual promiscuity... it'll be the norm, stop bitchin << interesting how early 20th c. folks imagined that birth control would be 'a thing' - i.e. that people would actually use it, and promiscuity would have zero impact on how children are brought up
asciilifeform: good example of what, for the lack of a better term, i think of as 'partial differentiation'
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> (basic physical principle - any semiconductor is a rectifier. any conductor is antenna. together - 'rfid' whether you wanted or not.) << the ability to put this heory in practice is severely limited for a government that spends 1 bn for a website.,
asciilifeform: e.g. 'we can have exactly the kind of civilization we grew up with, but with Moar Sex!'
mircea_popescu: pankkake i srsly don't see it. who knows, maybe we talk to differen people.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform good term.
mircea_popescu: "we want the soviet union but with gizmos" -> "we wand democracy" -
mircea_popescu: > "what the shit is this!!1"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lucky the brits invented the NJD right after ww2. and made, sold, even in the meanest pestholes on the planet.
mircea_popescu: anyway, people actually do use birth control.
indiancandy1: people use birthcontrol
indiancandy1: my mom is a gynacologist
indiancandy1: however u spel it
indiancandy1: well in the uk
asciilifeform: don't buy russian, chinese njd. it'll cook yer balls. but will pick up a semiconductor through a metre of concrete.
indiancandy1: apart from the weird catholic fanatics that sit outside abortion clinics and gum clinics with dead baby foetues dummies and crosses
indiancandy1: god knows what got into them
kakobrekla: its vagynacologist
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 maybe not enough sex
indiancandy1: am i the only one to find this funny marilyn manson posted something online saying the virgin mary wasnt a virgin because god raped her
pankkake: gum clinics?
mircea_popescu: god didn't rape her, she was asking for it.
pankkake: oh G.U.M.
mike_c: asciilifeform: NJD?
asciilifeform: mike_c: nonlinear junction detector
mircea_popescu: nonlinear junction detctor
mircea_popescu: damn
mike_c: thx
mircea_popescu: "In 1910, Gonzalo had fallen in love with a celebrated beauty in Salamanca, Inés Luna Terrero. She was extremely rich and, like Gonzalo, spoke English, French and German. She was a progressive feminist who shocked local opinion because she smoked and wore trousers. She was devastated when, in 1911, Gonzalo broke off the engagement in favour of Magdalena Álvarez Ruiz, the daughter of a cochero (a man who hired out
mircea_popescu: carriages and cars). Inés Luna Terrero never married and apparently, for the rest of her life, carried a torch for the dashingly handsome cavalry officer." << how did that expression go, nobody will ever win the battle of the sexes, too much fraternizing with the enemy ?
pankkake: I've been spammed by an anti-abortion group, they sent me dead baby foetuses pictures, on glossy paper
asciilifeform: these aren't a 'martian' technology at all - everyone who makes a living searching for 'bugs', hidden cameras, the like - owns one.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can make non nj cameras tho
asciilifeform: about 10k usd (for a 'brand name' unit)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sure. 'minox.'
asciilifeform: when i first heard of njd, i drew up a recipe for a purely chemical audio recorder. just for shits & giggles.
asciilifeform: i'm certain other people have thought of this.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52200 @ 0.00079558 = 41.5293 BTC [-] {2}
asciilifeform: you can shield a semiconductor-based gizmo from njd - faraday cage - but then it will turn up on ordinary metal detector. and won't transmit (you'll have to fetch the bug like your ancestors used to)
mircea_popescu: spook world problems
asciilifeform: lol
indiancandy1: i got my nipples peirced evvery time im in a airport
indiancandy1: the metal detectors
indiancandy1: go off
indiancandy1: story of my life
mircea_popescu: are they big piercings ?
indiancandy1: the normal peircing
indiancandy1: happened at gatwick airport
mircea_popescu: so what do you do ?
chetty: best reason I ever heard for not getting peircings
pankkake: I thought metal detectors didn't ring on that
asciilifeform: pankkake: depends what the knobs are turned to
indiancandy1: i tell them sorry sir but i have my nipples peirced
pankkake: I suppose they were turned on "female" ;)
indiancandy1: im sure they can see them on xray
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 so what do they do ?
indiancandy1: nothing i mean some of them are like all smiley and gigly about the whole thing
mircea_popescu: best cover ever for explosive tit implants :
mircea_popescu: also pierce the nipples.
indiancandy1: this is something the jihad havent looked into
asciilifeform wondered for many years what american reaction to the inevitable 'uterus bomb' will be.
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 you know angelina jolie had all her tit sucked out
mircea_popescu: and replaced with an airbag ?
mircea_popescu: supposedly it's healthier.
indiancandy1: she thought she was prone to cancer as her mother passed from it
mircea_popescu: yeah.
indiancandy1: she took paranoia to a whole new level
asciilifeform: airbag? the automotive kind, with detonator?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lol who's to know ?
chetty: ouch
mircea_popescu: but anyway, suicide bomber girl may become a thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's long been a thing.
indiancandy1: yes
mircea_popescu: DD is like over a quart together, plenty of space
chetty: hey do they do that for guys that have testicular cancer?
asciilifeform: in russia in particular
ThickAsThieves: just when you lean to her bosom for comfort, bam!
indiancandy1: i thought so to i think in afghan its pretty popular
asciilifeform: but afaik no implants - yet
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a the chechens did it ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know the angola rabbit sex joke ?
ThickAsThieves: nope
pankkake: why would a girl with big tits want to kill herself?
indiancandy1: sillicone implants are horrendous
ThickAsThieves: yes they make fake testicles, i'm pretty sure
mircea_popescu: angola rabbit goes to forest brothel, tells them he wants to fuck a boa cosntrictor whore.
pankkake: anyway, there was a "explosive butt plug" thing but it was a hoax
mircea_popescu: "but little rabbit... they EAT rabbits!"
mircea_popescu: little furry shit dun care.
indiancandy1: omg explosive but plug
mircea_popescu: so they take it to a boa constrictor whore, which... swallows him.
mircea_popescu: except... angola rabbit. bucnha fuzz, it doesn't sit well with the great snake. so after a while boa spits the rabbit out,
mircea_popescu: sends him flying a quarter mile.
mircea_popescu: rabbit picks himself up and struttingly "boy, what a blowjob"
ThickAsThieves: lol
indiancandy1: ahahaha
davout: mircea_popescu: "but anyway, suicide bomber girl may become a thing." <<< not sure martyrdom appeals to women the same it does to men...
mircea_popescu: davout they get 40 virginz too no ?
asciilifeform: davout: tell this to the chechen chicks
pankkake: does it have to be an angola rabbit?
ThickAsThieves: 40 pairs of shoes
indiancandy1: well i heard that in the quran it says something about killing for god
chetty: I think they get to be amn
nubbins`: 40 man-babies to feed and clothe
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves ahhh
asciilifeform: davout: usually they're simply avenging a husband or son
davout: ThickAsThieves: you have a point
chetty: s/man
mircea_popescu: omfg nubbins` is evil.
indiancandy1: like human sacrifice brings you closer to allah
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> why would a girl with big tits want to kill herself? << back pain ?
indiancandy1: mp good point there
indiancandy1: not thst mine are humoungoes
mircea_popescu: i've had chicks with nice tits go "plz kill me" after a night o clubbin' in high heels.
ThickAsThieves: ;;google Double D Suicide
gribble: Ed Edd n Eddy: Double D's Suicide (Original 11/27/2011) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_nJm9z1jzg>; Army Suicides Doubled Last Month From June's Total - Huffington Post: <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/16/army-suicides_n_1792372.html>; Suicide rates doubled for children age 5-14 over past 20 years ...: <http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/2004-09-22-suicide- (1 more message)
indiancandy1: but i cant even sit straight im sure im going to be like the hunchback when i get older
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 whipping does wonders.
indiancandy1: but i cant even sit straight im sure im going to be like the hunchback when i get older?
ThickAsThieves: just hold your boobs while you walk
indiancandy1: oops
indiancandy1: i cant run
indiancandy1: i would get to black eyes if i run i used to go gym and course quite a audience on the treadmill
indiancandy1: so i stopped going gym because of the pervs
ThickAsThieves: you dont have to be the fastest runner, just not the slowest
mircea_popescu: let's educate the innocent. indiancandy1 : http://seawaves.us/na/Inquisitions/V%20Pear.jpg http://seawaves.us/na/Inquisitions/R%20Pear.jpg
mircea_popescu: the exploding buttplug has long been a thing.
mircea_popescu: for women.
indiancandy1: i was like pammi in baywatch it was really bad actually to one point that once one fellow came up stood infront and said im going to stand here nd watch you till you tell me to fuck off
asciilifeform: afaik the pear was an 'equal opportunity' thing
indiancandy1: that was the last time i went to the gym
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform most inquisition victims were female actually.
mircea_popescu: also, note the spike.
asciilifeform: aye, 'tenaculum'
mircea_popescu: (the idea was for it to reach and tear the uterus)
indiancandy1: ssurely you would get aids from that butt plug
pankkake: lol
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 aids hadn't been invented yet.
indiancandy1: ahh i see
indiancandy1: aids was grids before
asciilifeform: indiancandy1: you're looking at a piece of kit from spanish inquisition.
nubbins`: i don't think anything that size is reaching the uterus
nubbins`: shredding the diaphragm, certainly
asciilifeform: word is, king vlad was handy with uteri.
mircea_popescu: !up indiancandy1
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interestingly, afaik it is unknown how many traditional and picturesque 'inquisitorial' instruments were actually put to use with any regularity - and how many did most of their work in 'questioning of the first degree' - i.e. 'being shown the instruments'
nubbins`: ^
nubbins`: ;;google gaiman other people
gribble: Chasing the Universe - “Other People” by Neil Gaiman: <http://holdinghandswithhades.edublogs.org/seven-deadly-sins-part-7-the-others-by-neil-gaiman/>; Neil Gaiman at Keplers - "Other People" - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-K5p3VrrjQ>; Other People by Neil Gaiman — Reviews, Discussion, Bookclubs ...: <http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16176131-other-people>
asciilifeform: if i recall, there is no proof, for example, that the ubiquitous 'iron maiden' was used even on one occasion.
mircea_popescu: what would the proof be like ?
nubbins`: ^ first link contains full story
mircea_popescu: here's the thing : you presume rational approach on the part of the users.
mircea_popescu: rational people probably wouldn't have had these things anyway
asciilifeform: some record, e.g. 'herr schmuckison refused to confess, was strapped in on the year of our lord xxxx, crunched nicely...'
mircea_popescu: so it's likely they were used. not because of anything to do with the victims
mircea_popescu: but because at a time before medical encyclopedias, some people still wanted to see guts.
asciilifeform: people still wanna see guts
nubbins`: but now we have the internet
asciilifeform: why 'youtube' exists
mircea_popescu: exactly.
nubbins`: man, i saw a photo of a human hand without skin the other day
nubbins`: fucking gross
indiancandy1: ewww
nubbins`: yeah
asciilifeform: anyone else aficionado of the 15th-17th c. 'anatomical porn' ?
indiancandy1: i stoped eating meat because i saw a goat being slaughtered and skinned alive
chetty: http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com.ar/2014/07/spain-issues-retroactive-003-tax-on.html#OHORcBLjip6xtjCj.99
assbot: Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis: Spain Issues Retroactive 0.03% Tax on Bank Deposits to "Boost Economic Growth and Job Creation"
asciilifeform: for a while, even to some extent into the 19th c., it was SOP to present porn and anatomical exposition as a combo
asciilifeform: e.g. gravures of a hot chick, seductive on a posh turkish bed, but her uterus is exposed
asciilifeform: volumes of these were printed
mircea_popescu: afaik all the rage in manga now is to show the insides as well
asciilifeform: chetty: spain, best friend of btc.
chetty: :)
asciilifeform: with enemies like this - who needs friends...
davout: asciilifeform: spain is gay compared to what cyprus did
asciilifeform: matter of degree. and now that the knob's been turned from '0', it can go - wherever.
chetty: ECB telling banks to stay out of btc is nice too
indiancandy1: Millions of people on the streets for the Tour de France. Why? They've been there for hours, & the entire race passed them in under a minute. And it's raining
davout: asciilifeform: no, because what spain is essentially doing is simply a tax on the interest collected
davout: has nothing to do with a haircut
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 well maybe they're there with their friends.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52259 @ 0.00079482 = 41.5365 BTC [-] {4}
indiancandy1: mp maybe
nubbins`: hey, people climb a ton of steps for 10 seconds in the crown of the statue of liberty
indiancandy1: good point
pankkake: they want the free saucissons
davout: pankkake: http://www.cochonouetvous.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bob-cochonou-tourdefrance.jpg
mircea_popescu went to istanbul, couldn't be bothered to climb galata tower. too many tourists, what is this regimented bs.
nubbins`: climbing tall things is nice, doing it in a queue isn't
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: but this IS a major problem of overpopulation. i doubt the louvre will ever again be visitable for instance.
nubbins`: problem of affordable long-distance travel as well
indiancandy1: mp did you check out the turkish belly dancers
mircea_popescu: yea.
nubbins`: machu picchu suffers as much as the cn tower ;D
mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 belly dancing is like this requisite female skill. no idea how one goes through life without
mircea_popescu: or why would she.
indiancandy1: i want to go to lessons i saw a video of shakira on youtbe pretty impressive and it looks so hot rather than that twrking mallarky
mircea_popescu: mallarky lol
indiancandy1: i can twerk
indiancandy1: :P
davout: "i can twerk" not so far of "i can't work" :D
mircea_popescu: i thought the only distinction of twerking was that anyone can do it.
mircea_popescu: lol davidlatapie
mircea_popescu: oops
thestringpuller: ;;gettrust indiancandy1
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user indiancandy1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=indiancandy1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=indiancandy1 | Rated since: never
pankkake: !up indiancandy1
thestringpuller: indiancandy1: you aren't in WoT yet?
indiancandy1: no
indiancandy1: im trying
indiancandy1: il do it now
indiancandy1: i got my
thestringpuller: do or do not there is no try
indiancandy1: public key
thestringpuller: I kid
indiancandy1: its just i cant do it myelf
indiancandy1: i get someone else to
thestringpuller: that doesn't seem very safe
thestringpuller: what if that someone else steals your private key an impersonates you
indiancandy1: well there is no fun or gain in impersonating me so
indiancandy1: im not that exiting
mircea_popescu: proof of twerk ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.03575737 = 0.5721 BTC [+] {3}
indiancandy1: get whatsap
indiancandy1: :P
indiancandy1: il send u videos
mircea_popescu: no i was talking to him
mircea_popescu: if someone impersonates you it'll just be resolved wiht PoT
mircea_popescu: anyway, im off. later all!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.0355365 = 1.3149 BTC [-] {8}
thestringpuller: take care mp
indiancandy1: ba bye
thestringpuller: lol malarky
thestringpuller: white people words
indiancandy1: ?
indiancandy1: im not white
indiancandy1: ahah
thestringpuller: i kno
indiancandy1: well half
indiancandy1: if you consider greek as white i do but people in england dont
thestringpuller: i just always think of dave chappelle imitating a white person using the word "malarky" when I hear it
thestringpuller: "Cut the malarky!"
indiancandy1: may i ask what nationality you are sir
thestringpuller: I'm on team light skinned (black)
indiancandy1: what country you from?
indiancandy1: i got black in me aswel
indiancandy1: from tanzania my great granma was african
indiancandy1: im a cocktail
indiancandy1: greek india tanzania
thestringpuller: oh I'm from US
indiancandy1: ohhh no exotic carribean islands
indiancandy1: damnz
kakobrekla: she said cock-tail.
indiancandy1: gyal cock up ur batty and wine
indiancandy1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKJIIHgy1E0
assbot: Charly Black & J Capri - Whine & Kotch (Official Music Video) - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 55 @ 0.01758545 = 0.9672 BTC [+] {3}
thestringpuller: haha what made you think i was from the carribean?
thestringpuller: everyone asks that (since I have dreadlocks)
thestringpuller: "Are you jamaican?"
kakobrekla: "No, just dont wash ma hair."
thestringpuller: More like: "No I'm from fucking Connecticut. And no, I don't have any "herb" for sale"
thestringpuller: indiancandy1: do you have a british accent?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 55 @ 0.01759957 = 0.968 BTC [+] {2}
danielpbarron: thestringpuller, you're in ct?
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: i was born there
thestringpuller: a long time ago
thestringpuller: in the late 80's
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.75136014 BTC to 11`714 shares, 14951 satoshi per share
davout: thestringpuller: wai u dreadlox if u not herb 4 sale?
ThickAsThieves: great question
davout: "i moved up to cocaine", ah ok
ThickAsThieves: he deals cookies
davout: i have not received any so far, SO ALLOW ME TO DOUBT HERE :D
kakobrekla: <ThickAsThieves> he deals cookies < o yeah cookie biz, that explains it
davout: "cookies" -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C4-TsaNENo
assbot: Family Guy - Cookie Monster (HD) - YouTube
kakobrekla: also try lollipops, kids love those. something like 70% thc and 30% cbd.
ThickAsThieves: hmm BTC drama feels kinda low
ThickAsThieves: need more fuel
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 616.08, Best ask: 618.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.92000, Last trade: 616.0, 24 hour volume: 5145.64589832, 24 hour low: 616.0, 24 hour high: 637.8, 24 hour vwap: 626.170851195
mike_c: TaT, wtf? i thought we were about to rally?
kakobrekla: hi guise, whai is the price so low
ThickAsThieves: you missed it
indiancandy1: i have a london accent sorry was in the shower
mike_c: hehe
indiancandy1: there isnt a british accent
nubbins`: http://www.silkscreeningsupplies.com/product/DITTO-13
assbot: The Ditto 13" Auto Sheet Film Feeder
nubbins`: plastic comb, regular $189, on sale for $59
indiancandy1: evry city in england has a different accent all the scottish sound the same and so do the irish
indiancandy1: my accent is combined with east end / hood / posh
mike_c: i gotta say, i am surprised draper didn't have an effect.
mike_c: 30k btc sells in a day and the market don't care.
ThickAsThieves: he did have an affect
ThickAsThieves: it was priced in already by the time he gave his performance
mike_c: pics or gtfo
indiancandy1: no i didnt expect you to be carribean you could have been nigerian but
ThickAsThieves: well the price went up right til he had his press
ThickAsThieves: buy on rumor, sell on news, right?
mike_c: or no news as the case may be.
ThickAsThieves: right
ThickAsThieves: i'm not quite sure what the price is doing next tho, so i'm just bagholding
mike_c: bagholding what though? btc or fiat?
ThickAsThieves: btc
ThickAsThieves: mostly, i do still have some in stocks
indiancandy1: ooo la la
indiancandy1: coca cola dealers
ThickAsThieves: this week everyone is hopping on the GS-NFLX-Buy is a scam bandwagon
ThickAsThieves: so o
ThickAsThieves: i'm happy there
mike_c: i don't like playing with stock of companies that don't make money.
mike_c: feels like forum investing :)
ThickAsThieves: shorted it
mike_c: yeah, but it's all hype-wagon. who knows which way the wind will blow.
ThickAsThieves: such is life
mike_c: GS pushes you one way, JPM another
ThickAsThieves: we all speculate
ThickAsThieves: just a matter of frequency and volume
mike_c: not arguing that. i certainly have some fliers in my portfolio. that's just not my particular cup of speculation.
ThickAsThieves: my tastes change
ThickAsThieves: itll be something else next year
ThickAsThieves: !up indiancandy1
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00079402 = 11.95 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: priceless! roger ver is $160k in the hole and counting… for dpr's legal fees
bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/485478065959493632
assbot: Ill give $10 to /Free_Ross for each RT. If guilty, hes a hero. If innocent, he needs help. http://t.co/XwhqrN06UT http://t.co/Oau4dkFvdV
bitcoinpete: 16.8k retweets later...
ThickAsThieves: I was an early retweeter
ThickAsThieves: i care enough about Ross to use Ver's money
ThickAsThieves: BitBet needed Ver Scams DPR
ThickAsThieves: Roger Ver finds some way to not truly pay the $165k to Ross' defense
mike_c: there are fiverr people who specialize in shit like this. you could easily pay $5 for 5k retweets.
bitcoinpete: that's tempting
bitcoinpete: ;;rate thenewdeal 1 bitbetbroker
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user thenewdeal has been recorded.
ThickAsThieves: well he already said more tweets wont increase what he gives
mike_c: what did he cap it at?
ThickAsThieves: approx 160
ThickAsThieves: he didnt make it clear
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46400 @ 0.00079277 = 36.7845 BTC [-] {3}
ThickAsThieves: Ver has a ballsy Twitter picture
ThickAsThieves: him, voorhees, shrem, and is that yifu?
ThickAsThieves: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2929579196/89d8e53618c0cfb96b7be873606ddb16.jpeg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 34 @ 0.03500647 = 1.1902 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.03451 = 0.8282 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000289713
assbot: Draper's long-term bet on bitcoin - CNBC
ThickAsThieves: Draper talking on how large buyers might acquire bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: nothing too earthshaking
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 42 @ 0.0133899 = 0.5624 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: mike_c is the seeds subdomain set up properly for atc?
mike_c: well, my end is. i don't think we ever got the dns right
ThickAsThieves: so what i did didnt work?
ThickAsThieves: i think i set it up per your instruction, just not sure if it was tested afterward
mike_c: let's try again :) let me get a picture.
ThickAsThieves: you want a ss of the current setup?
mike_c: yeah
ThickAsThieves: k
benkay: <mircea_popescu> the only practical way to keep the women intellectually stimulated enough in your scheme is to make a harem. // i was thinking about the marginal cost of a second wife and five more kids this weekend
mike_c: http://i.imgur.com/JfNhEYq.png
ThickAsThieves: http://i.imgur.com/mV1ljPj.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 39 @ 0.01689768 = 0.659 BTC [-] {4}
mike_c: ok. so here's what we did wrong.
mike_c: need: 1) "seeds.therealaltcoin.org NS ns1.seeds.therealaltcoin.org"
mike_c: 2) "ns1.seeds.therealaltcoin.org A
mike_c: and that should do it
ThickAsThieves: k
ThickAsThieves: so, translated into my interface, this? http://i.imgur.com/fFH0Ze1.jpg
mike_c: looks right
ThickAsThieves: it's applied
thestringpuller: ;;seen BingoBoingo
gribble: BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 51 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform: Well, the copyrastas don't have vulnerable targets sitting literally outdoors, and that may have been stolen only in the sense of pollen from a neighboring field blew over essentially stealing itself
mike_c: ThickAsThieves: there's a bug on therealaltcoin.org. the Casino link is pointing to satoshijack ;)
punkman: ns1.seeds.therealaltcoin.org should probably be under Advanced Options > Nameserver Registration
ThickAsThieves: mike_c it shall be fixed in grand fashion
mike_c: excellent
ThickAsThieves: i installed wordpress so i can flesh the site out more
ThickAsThieves: so i'll do a whole post on WoL
pankkake: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/fr/actualites-bitcoin/premiere-arrestation-en-france-liee-au-bitcoin/2014/07/07 <= they say it's bestxchanger.com
assbot: Arrestation franaise lie au bitcoin - CryptoCoinsNews
asciilifeform: BesTXchanger ?
asciilifeform: expertSexchange.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 264 @ 0.00403323 = 1.0648 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00079265 = 15.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.03829246 = 1.3402 BTC [-] {4}
pankkake: http://news.sky.com/story/1296508/global-jihad-could-be-funded-with-bitcoin
assbot: Global Jihad 'Could Be Funded With Bitcoin'
penguirker: New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/07/07/it-aint-cheatin-it-stampedin/
bitcoinpete: http://irdial.com/blogdial/?p=3169
bitcoinpete: ^this dude should be on the b-a blogs
ThickAsThieves: bitcoinpete, i admire your jewfro
ThickAsThieves: lol i said that before i read it
fluffypony: lol!
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: all he needs now is a pedo moustache and the look is complete?
ThickAsThieves: nah hipster weird al is about the edge of cool
ThickAsThieves: dont wanna overdo it
fluffypony: lol
pankkake: http://www.dailydot.com/business/moolah-dogecoin-alex-green/
assbot: The death of Dogecoin
kakobrekla: >Other cryptocurrencies don’t come with a built-in joke.
kakobrekla: this has not yet been proven.
punkman: at least half of them do
fluffypony: knock knock. who's there? Auroracoin. Auroracoin who? Auroracoin get fucked, that whore!
punkman: "Of course, there's always the chance Dogecoin could rally."
punkman: http://blog.moolah.io/2014/07/07/i-wouldnt-call-this-journalism/
assbot: I wouldn’t call this journalism. | Moolah
punkman: " I do not intend to be working in the sector anymore; because of the constant co-ordinated attacks on myself."
punkman: great success
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44950 @ 0.00079199 = 35.6 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.0007943 = 14.0194 BTC [+]
nubbins`: fluffypony you made those shirts look pretty sharp
fluffypony: nubbins`: they are good shirts - thank you!
FabianB: $traded
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR
FabianB: lol https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad
assbot: Potato Salad by Zack Danger Brown — Kickstarter
fluffypony: http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/2018.gif
asciilifeform: bitcoinpete: irdial << it's the numbers stations fellow!
asciilifeform: great blog.
fluffypony: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/324283889/potato-salad
assbot: Potato Salad by Zack Danger Brown — Kickstarter
fluffypony: oh FabianB already posted it
fluffypony: this dude should write IPOs
FabianB: lo, ya
mthreat: !up kermit
chetty: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-07/could-be-last-straw-90-china-loan-guarantors-bankrupt
assbot: "This Could Be The Last Straw" 90% Of China Loan Guarantors Bankrupt | Zero Hedge
asciilifeform: interesting bus film
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40700 @ 0.00079548 = 32.376 BTC [+] {5}
asciilifeform: if china gov. doesn't answer with a thousand dead uighurs, perhaps the rulers have already lost, to use their traditional term, 'mandate of heaven.'
asciilifeform: (they've declared that the bus was torched by a generic pyro)
asciilifeform: ;;google china bus fire
gribble: Chinese arsonist sets bus on fire, critically injuring 33 people | Mail ...: <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2683121/Trapped-passengers-terror-Chinese-arsonist-sets-bus-alight-leaving-33-people-critically-injured.html>; China police blame arson in bus fire that hurt 32 - Yahoo News: <https://news.yahoo.com/china-police-blame-arson-bus-fire-hurt-32-081853162.html>; (1 more message)
asciilifeform: ^ apparently a common event there.
mircea_popescu: ahhh yay.
mircea_popescu: all iron orange juicer ? 20 bux. 11lbs of oranges ? 2 bux.
mircea_popescu: who's got all the fresh squeezed orange juice he could ever drink ?
mircea_popescu: !up Zoop_
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> "No, just dont wash ma hair." << i lolled.
Zoop_: ty
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust Zoop_
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Zoop_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=Zoop_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Zoop_ | Rated since: never
mircea_popescu: <indiancandy1> my accent is combined with east end / hood / posh << say, you seen saffron's beg video ?
mircea_popescu: <indiancandy1> no i didnt expect you to be carribean you could have been nigerian but << davout's the nigerian. and we got some somalis.
chetty: <mircea_popescu> all iron orange juicer ? 20 bux. 11lbs of oranges ? 2 bux.// the mystery is that people around here still drink tang and stuff
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> i gotta say, i am surprised draper didn't have an effect. << why ?
mircea_popescu: he's not in here, why would he have an effect ?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell indiancandy1 my accent is combined with east end / hood / posh << say, you seen saffron's beg video ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: chetty ikr? one day i order orange juice in this pretty upscale place, get tang. i was saddened.
mike_c: i feel like we are back in a zone where BTC price is below its current value. i thought the auction might pop the inertia bubble on the price.
mircea_popescu: i felt like me saying so may pop the inertia on the price. which it did, a 25% ish.
chetty: mike_c give it a few days
mircea_popescu: but yes, otherwise, what she said.
mircea_popescu: the market can't stay irrational longer than i have patience.
mike_c: heh. it can try.
mircea_popescu: yep. like catfish, it can try, which is what makes the sport fun.
mircea_popescu: o hey d. how's ghana ?
chetty: how do you know when a game will start on waroflife?
davout: mircea_popescu: "the market can't stay irrational longer than i have patience." <<< lol, make a bitbet
mircea_popescu: davout how would you ever verify it.
davout: depends how it's worded i guess :D
davout: bet title: "market becomes rational before mircea popescu loses patience"
mircea_popescu: bet text "this bet to be resolved eventually".
davout: bet description: "market goes >= x before y"
davout: bitbet mod comment: "disregard this, bet resolves to yes if netherlands wins wc"
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: if netherlands wins wc ima have all the camhos bubbling.
davout: i can't wait for someone to manage to troll bitbet by passing some self-referring bet
davout: "bet resolves to yes if it resolves to yes"
davout: "bet resolves to yes if the product of bets that have resolved to no before the bitbet mod is aged three times the day of month the bet has been accepted..."
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete im not sure of the reasoning on the "if guilty he's a hero". seems to me the guy's fucktarded either way, but hey.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: mebbe jesus homie knows something i don't. somehow. through divine headfucking.
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> there are fiverr people who specialize in shit like this. you could easily pay $5 for 5k retweets. << this being obviously the only way ver gets 16k rts.
mircea_popescu: benkay this, of course, is covered on trilema.
mircea_popescu: ;;google doua fete, argumentul economic
gribble: La fête musulmane du sacrifice | Walid Nassef - Huffington Post: <http://quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/walid-nassef/fete-du-sacrifice_b_4087022.html>; Martie 2010 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2010/03>; APEL CATRE SPECIALISTI: Ce parere aveti despre medicamentul ...: <http://saccsiv.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/apel-catre-specialisti-ce-parere-aveti- (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: bejesus.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/doua-fete-argumentul-economic/
Zoop_: i shall use my 30 minutes of fame wisely
Zoop_: www.gao.gov/assets/670/663678.pdf
Zoop_: it's from may, but only went public a few hours ago
Zoop_: afaict
davout: Zoop_: what is it?
chetty: http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2014/07/07/attempt-to-tie-bitcoin-to-isis-is-proof-the-establishment-is-scared-to-death/
assbot: Attempt to Tie Bitcoin to ISIS is Proof the Establishment is Scared to Death | Liberty Blitzkrieg
mircea_popescu: <bitcoinpete> http://irdial.com/blogdial/?p=3169 << i think he was my biggest twitter fan, back before i killed andreas.
assbot: BLOGDIAL » Blog Archive » Guardian warmongering over Pakistan encryption ban
Zoop_: davout report from GAO on virtual currencies
Zoop_: regulation stuff
mircea_popescu: Zoop_ this isn't news tho is it.
davout: Zoop_: yeah, that's on page 1, i mean "what is this?", as in, why is it important?
mircea_popescu: "which is to include a) a plain statement of the SEC’s lack of jurisdiction with regards to Bitcoin, thus alligning itself with the position of the US FED and the US GAO ;"
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institution-a-guide/
assbot: Interacting with fiat institution, a guide pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: that'd be february.
Zoop_: well, the news is: the report is out and GAO wants CFPB to focus on virtual currencies
mircea_popescu: fluffypony did the islandese people get rescued by max scamkeiser yet ?
asciilifeform: chetty: wait for the false-flag attack 'finance with bitcoin!111!'
davout: meh
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno about you, but i personally am looking forward.
mircea_popescu: once they do that, the real fun starts.
asciilifeform just wonders why it's taking so long
chetty: asciilifeform, any day now
mircea_popescu: perhaps because "the real fun starts" means things like "rape a US agent, post the film, get 100 BTC"
mircea_popescu: powerful people with nothing to lose are how one gets fucked up.
asciilifeform: 'hedsoff.com'
asciilifeform: (nothing interesting there in life. it was a site in an old sf story, about more or less this)
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> nubbins`: they are good shirts - thank you! << he does make pretty kickass shirt that's for sure.
mircea_popescu: chetty zerohedge's entire business model is "this could be the last straw" lol
chetty: <mircea_popescu> chetty zerohedge's entire business model is "this could be the last straw" lol// doom sells
mircea_popescu: "this could be the last zerohedge article"
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 426 @ 0.00217065 = 0.9247 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the zh article is nonsensical, in that in no functional economy can 90% of guarantors crack. it's simply not possible, like a cancer that takes over 90% of a body's cells.
mircea_popescu: once 10%ish is reached the system collapses, it's not possible to cross over 50% in any case.
mircea_popescu: so, someone;'s measuring something wrongly.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 410 @ 0.0041 = 1.681 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: prediction (not bitbet because... 'badBet') - sr coin, from derper's pocket, stolen; ends in in goatfuckistan, finances [insert your favourite american landmark] falseflag demolition...
asciilifeform: ('stolen' naturally)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2014#741109 ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: i'll take even odds against that prop.
asciilifeform: perhaps this is so elementary as to be uninteresting.
asciilifeform: or - for added realism - it'll be the 200k btc dpr is coughing up on the impaler machine, rather than derper's coin.
mircea_popescu: mexican standoff. the usg doesn't mind idiot eu bureaucrats fucking themselves over, but otherwise, it won't really shoot first.
mircea_popescu: for the most part, neither are we, there's no profit to be had, and even less lols.
asciilifeform: there's always some idiot with 'initiative'
asciilifeform: or a hundred.
chetty: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/LIRR-Strike-Deadline-July-Long-Island-Rail-Road-MTA-265568721.html
assbot: Long Island Rail Road Strike Deadline Looms, Thousands of Commuters Affected | NBC New York
chetty: I think a lot of wall street rides those trains
mircea_popescu: notrly.
danielpbarron: ticker
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 619.31, Best ask: 621.6, Bid-ask spread: 2.29000, Last trade: 621.6, 24 hour volume: 7031.17995532, 24 hour low: 612.9, 24 hour high: 636.0, 24 hour vwap: 623.785444584
danielpbarron: !up andreas
mircea_popescu: "What the commentators didn't mention—because hardly anyone noticed—is that buying that NASCAR sponsorship wasn't really a team effort. Rather, it was disproportionately the work of one man, Alex Green, founder and director of Moolah, the preeminent company that exchanges dogecoins for other kinds of currency."
mircea_popescu: yeah, well...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35044 @ 0.00079254 = 27.7738 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00079254 = 5.7855 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "Like before, Greene appeared to" / "Green got more than just customers" can't even get the name right. what research and shit.
mircea_popescu: "In February, he saw a fundraiser called Cancer for College would get Will Ferrell to shout out anybody who donated $1,500. Green said he didn't realize he was typing in British pounds, rather than dollars, and so he accidentally gave $2,466 of his own money. To date, just over 2,500 people have viewed the nine-second video of Ferrell somberly thanking r/dogecoin."
mircea_popescu: o look at that, #b-a camgirls > will ferrell.
ThickAsThieves: <+Zoop_> it's from may, but only went public a few hours ago /// pff i linked this days ago
mircea_popescu: guy's new.
ThickAsThieves goes back to lurking.
mircea_popescu goes to mike's site to check on fmpif, finds a hole!
mircea_popescu: enky whay is your strat so broken!
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/ah-sweet-sweet-delicious-communitard-tears/#comment-102321 i r win so much interwebs...
assbot: Ah sweet sweet delicious communitard tears pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/mQoxU7h.jpg taking odds on whether that ever gets approved.
mircea_popescu: !up crypto_x_
[]bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "World Cup top scorer to net > 7" http://bitbet.us/bet/905/ Odds: 16(Y):84(N) by coin, 38(Y):62(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.19546549 BTC. Current weight: 10,530.
mircea_popescu: pankkake ahahh wait, j c weidmann's aka is actualy a reference to story of o ?
mircea_popescu: help me rwanda.
ThickAsThieves: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-core-floating-transaction-fees/
assbot: Next Bitcoin Core Version to Include 'Smarter' Transaction Fees
ThickAsThieves: "Andresen cited needless complexities within bitcoin’s transaction fee code as the reason for the update. "
ThickAsThieves: yo dawg...
mircea_popescu: it ~was~ broked
ThickAsThieves: word
mircea_popescu: so mr ThickAsThieves, how does it feel to have created the actual lulzaltcoin that works ?
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoinpete.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/photo-23-1024x1024.jpg << check it out benkay, he's like 2 ahead of you. plus he has a jewfro.
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> so mr ThickAsThieves, how does it feel to have created the actual lulzaltcoin that works ? /// Usually just feel guilty it's not getting more attention
ThickAsThieves: like i owe it something
mircea_popescu: why guilty ?
ThickAsThieves: dunno, just tol
mircea_popescu: you do owe it something. vapid pointless publicity and assorted redditardation ain't it.
thestringpuller: all good things come with time
kakobrekla: or dont.
thestringpuller: :(
ThickAsThieves: well if it blows up, we did it for the lulz!
mircea_popescu: kako's had bad experiences with female orgasm in the past
mircea_popescu: back when he was still trying.
ThickAsThieves: if it grows up, we did it for the i-told-you-sos
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2GXQD7R.txt )
thestringpuller: !b 3 ✂︎
kakobrekla: you know that is not getting approved.
ThickAsThieves: lol
mircea_popescu: lmao
thestringpuller: :D
ThickAsThieves: maybe a good b-a slogan
mircea_popescu: "this is not getting approvt, son"
mircea_popescu: "it is disapprov't, son"
ThickAsThieves: mike_c was complaining about the price, what do you guys think it should be
mircea_popescu: so apparently the only way to get a toothbrush that has bristles instead of random plastic chunks is to buy brazil made stuff.
mircea_popescu: these fucktards and their "science" of "cool". NOT EVERYTHING IS A SNEAKER, YO!
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves what diff does it make what the price is ?
ThickAsThieves: well, i wasnt trying to get all philosophical about it
ThickAsThieves: he noted he felt it was off
ThickAsThieves: wondered what "on" is
mircea_popescu: personaly i think it's fine
mircea_popescu: coupla hundred or w/e
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46424 @ 0.00079254 = 36.7929 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: all buttcoins to you
mircea_popescu: hm ?
ThickAsThieves: it's all a lotta money to you
mircea_popescu: i regret ot inform you i do not follow!
ThickAsThieves: just commenting on saying 200, 600, whatevs!
bitstein: Just got this up: http://nakamotoinstitute.org/the-skeptics/
assbot: The Skeptics | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 39 * 0.00225 * 630
gribble: 55.2825
ThickAsThieves: eat
mircea_popescu: meh
ThickAsThieves: neat*
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 39 * 0.00225 * 630 * 512
gribble: 28304.64
mircea_popescu: is that right, total mkt cap is like 30k usd ?
ThickAsThieves: http://atc.blockr.io/
ThickAsThieves: tells you
ThickAsThieves: 44.583552 BTC
mircea_popescu: so myeah.
ThickAsThieves: only 38500btc to go before it's bigger than ripple!
kakobrekla: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BraRmxvIcAA4gmt.jpg:large
mircea_popescu: what was doge supposed to be, like 35k ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla coulda had a much better shirt
mircea_popescu: ftr, that's 20 x 120 = 2400 boxen.
kakobrekla: is that bfl or ?
mircea_popescu: if anyone's not following but curious about china news
kakobrekla: more like 3k boxen
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ot
mircea_popescu: it's not 25 long
kakobrekla: ;;calc 8*12*15*2
gribble: 2880
kakobrekla: if left and right are same size
kakobrekla: 15 long
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40586 @ 0.00079023 = 32.0723 BTC [-] {5}
kakobrekla: 8 devices per single rack, 12 single racks in a row
kakobrekla: 15 columns
kakobrekla: times two
mircea_popescu: dude. there's 20 layers, each layer 10 on the base 6 tall on each side.
mircea_popescu: 20 x 120 = 2400
ThickAsThieves: http://i.imgur.com/Djxi443.jpg
kakobrekla: depth is 15 or 16
mircea_popescu: ow fuck you'rer right its 16
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 16 * 6 * 2 * 20
gribble: 3840
kakobrekla: eh?
mircea_popescu: ahahaha ThickAsThieves nice
kakobrekla: ;;calc 8*12*16*2
gribble: 3072
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla 16 on each side, 6 tall, 20 of them
ThickAsThieves: help me understand something plz - if china doublespent or sold metals it didnt have, how is that bearish on the price of metals?
mircea_popescu: tho left side is only half wide (hence the 6 and the 4)
mircea_popescu: so no, moar like
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 24 * 6 * 20
gribble: 2880
kakobrekla: its not 20 of them
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves if panic grips the fx market and it unwinds, and if doubts as to value of metal as collateral unwinds metal pledged as colateral in stocks
mircea_popescu: this reduces demand for physical metal, and so increases spot supply
kakobrekla: 15
ThickAsThieves: isnt people doublespending it rather bullish?
mircea_popescu: well this has been a fun game
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves how ?
ThickAsThieves: well the demand exceeded supply
ThickAsThieves: they sold shit that didnt exist
mircea_popescu: you're not following here.
mircea_popescu: suppose you have a number of fucks.
mircea_popescu: currently these fucks are only in demand for fucking with.
mircea_popescu: if tomorrow they are in the same demand for fucking with, but also in demand to make chef's salad,
mircea_popescu: they wil be more expensive.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00079288 = 9.5542 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if next week someone gets aids from eating your fucks chefs salad
mircea_popescu: this will make fucks be less used for chefs salads
mircea_popescu: and thus they wil be cheaper again
ThickAsThieves: but the fuck is the funds and shit, not the metal, the fuck is the fucktards that fucked up
mircea_popescu: no, the fucks is the copper.
mircea_popescu: listen scarlet, copper is the only thing to fuck
mircea_popescu: because it's the only thing that lasts.
mircea_popescu: and also, fuck this avocado is delicious.
ThickAsThieves: lol
mircea_popescu: no im seriouse
ThickAsThieves: ok so why hasnt gold crashed
mircea_popescu: it has lol
mircea_popescu: 1200 ? srsly ?
ThickAsThieves: they did this with gold right?
ThickAsThieves: in recent news
ThickAsThieves: and now it's just holding
mircea_popescu: o look, it's the sexy geekgirl.
ThickAsThieves: or youre saying the effects of this fuckery are already priced in
mircea_popescu: no dude.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24250 @ 0.00079696 = 19.3263 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: anyway. the renminbi was a stupid name anyway, i doubt they seriously intended for it to survive
mircea_popescu: and it doesn't look like it'll make it past 2015
mircea_popescu: !up sexysaffron
mircea_popescu: you ok there ?
sexysaffron: thanks! forgot the authentication process again!
mircea_popescu: lol
sexysaffron: I have a video delivery! ☟︎
sexysaffron: https://www.dropbox.com/s/g58mpit4p5zms4l/203.mp4
assbot: Dropbox - 203.mp4
BingoBoingo: "As well, the new code enables transaction senders to configure how much priority they want their transaction to receive. In some cases, users may opt to have as many as six blocks pass before the first confirmation is received." << How the fuck does Gavin deign to tell the miners what to do?
mircea_popescu: sexysaffron cool!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what do you mean ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The Gavin messing with tx fees article someone dropped a while back
sexysaffron: :)
sexysaffron: I tweeted him the video and the link to the channel
mircea_popescu: link ?
sexysaffron: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=bitcoin-assets
assbot: freenode Web IRC (qwebirc)
mircea_popescu: no to your tweet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15276 @ 0.00079651 = 12.1675 BTC [-]
sexysaffron: https://twitter.com/SexyMissSaffron/with_replies
assbot: Saffron Bacchus (SexyMissSaffron) auf Twitter
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-07-2014#746955 << here's you authing last time ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: ok, that tweet is no good because a) it's two tweets and b) it's a weird dropbox link which the guy is not gonna open.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13722 @ 0.00079758 = 10.9444 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: so delete them and standby, i'll give you a youtube link in a few mins.
sexysaffron: ok!
mircea_popescu: actually be like half hour seeing how it'll have to be reprocessed for youtubs.
sexysaffron: no problem, you can just send me an email, sexy_miss_saffron@hotmail.com
mircea_popescu: aite.
kakobrekla: i worked on a saffron garden before.
mircea_popescu: expensive shit.
kakobrekla: 10-15k per kilo
kakobrekla: (the good stuff)
BingoBoingo: Makes blow seem cheap
kakobrekla: the shit is poisonous too.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i was thinking, "Hey, whores were never ever more than 10-15 per kilo)
sexysaffron: saffron is worth more than gold!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, when you put it that way...
mircea_popescu: sexysaffron not quite, there's ~30 ounces in a kg.
mircea_popescu: saffron is about 1/3 of gold or so
kakobrekla: our garden, 2011 http://shrani.si/f/1A/vH/2CW8INdn/a1.jpg
mircea_popescu: kako is a saffron billionaire.
sexysaffron: http://therealsasha.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/what-costs-more-than-gold-in-the-local-supermarket/
assbot: What costs more than Gold in the local supermarket? | The Real Sasha
BingoBoingo: My garden has boring vegetables, but I got to disappear a groundhog in its defense last week.
kakobrekla: its a fuckin pain to make. especially the harvest.
sexysaffron: my google foo claims saffron is worth 3 times more than gold!
kakobrekla: reminds of resolving a bitbet.
mircea_popescu: that pic should be titled "kako's crocus garden"
kakobrekla: or rather the whole process of.
kakobrekla: some work in the spring and fuck your asshole in the fall.
BingoBoingo: sexysaffron: Well it depends on the volume with saffron, but gold really doesn't give you discounts for buying more than a little.
mircea_popescu: sexysaffron gold is atm ~42k per kg
mircea_popescu: saffron is what kako says, 15k ish
sexysaffron: interesting
BingoBoingo: Grams of supermarket saffron are going to be more expensive than the equivalent in gold, but kilos are cheaper
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla well put huh. just like bitbets.
mircea_popescu: how's the harvest go ? you on hands and knees with a qtip ?
kakobrekla: yea
kakobrekla: gotta pull the flowers to be later processed
kakobrekla: and dig up the ummm what you call em
kakobrekla: bulbs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15081 @ 0.00078855 = 11.8921 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: to be reinserted next year
kakobrekla: getting the pistils out is also not an easy job
mircea_popescu: most of it is made in iran.
kakobrekla: but that is shit quality
kakobrekla: does not come even near the price of a good shit
ThickAsThieves: i had some store-bought stuff and it tasted like plastic to me
kakobrekla: italy is a large producer of high quality stuff
kakobrekla: yet they still need to import
kakobrekla: in egypt you can get 100grams for the price of 1gram here
kakobrekla: cause its total shit.
kakobrekla: the funny thing is, the most fuckup is done when they dry it.
mircea_popescu: how's shittery measured ?
kakobrekla: aroma, color, taste
mircea_popescu: i mean as a process
kakobrekla: you smell it, you check under the light and you taste it
kakobrekla: :D
kakobrekla: im not the expert in measuring
kakobrekla: but i know really bad from really god
kakobrekla: good
kakobrekla: if you would have came for a visit i could have shown you the difference.
mircea_popescu: !up xdotcommer
mircea_popescu: the time is not at an end.
mircea_popescu: once i get enough slavegirls maybe i make a saffron growing harem.
xdotcommer: mircea_popescu: saffron for mdma ?
xdotcommer: oh wait thats safrole
mircea_popescu: just for titstick.
mircea_popescu: (which is lipstick you use on nipples)
xdotcommer: In the United States, safrole is currently a List I chemical.
xdotcommer: I thought the two were related.. but it seems just similar spelling
BingoBoingo: xdotcommer: Safrole comes from sassafras
xdotcommer: <- chem noob