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mircea_popescu: but the same drive to ever cheapen the 
soviet's offerings to the zek ("only political training contributes to forwarding teh revolution!! everything else contributes to costs!!!" said teh world famous elena ceausescu-zigglar) will cheapen the very rug from under your feet also.
 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is that ; but not reliably, hence 
soviet alt-genetics.
 a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 21:09 phf: 
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756823 << abbrev has a funny history: "заключенный красноармеец" because of early 
soviet labour army experiments, later renamed to "заключенный каналоармеец", i.e. builder of беломорканал, to make it more politically correct. initially the abbrev had implications of forced labour specifically, but only later was generally applied to all prisoners. (probably bec
  phf: 
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756823 << abbrev has a funny history: "заключенный красноармеец" because of early 
soviet labour army experiments, later renamed to "заключенный каналоармеец", i.e. builder of беломорканал, to make it more politically correct. initially the abbrev had implications of forced labour specifically, but only later was generally applied to all prisoners. (probably bec
 ☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2014-02-14 17:26 mircea_popescu: ok, so school in 
soviet russia
 mircea_popescu: right, that's it. he just dun want to there be any jews. clearly unites nazi antisemitism with 
soviet antisemitism with etcetera. socialism, ie, dear lord protect us dumbasses from our betters.
 mircea_popescu: (i find it amusing how all the later day 
soviet saints have some shoe reference readily accessible to be retrieved by)
 mircea_popescu: generally substance abuse in post 
soviet world would curl the contemporaneous mind. cluj tribunal, three levesl, maybe say 50k sq foot of floor space, a thousand or two (mostly women) working there had A TRUCK. i don't mean a van. i mean a semi.
 mircea_popescu: 
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-29#1744393 << i think i knew hundreds. widely abused in post-
soviet medical system, for instance ; at some point a whole surgical section was losing it at the same time, one step away from ending up discussed in the national security council.
 ☝︎ mircea_popescu: like czechs exactly (another major source of 
soviet such needs)
 mircea_popescu: the problem with this is that 
soviet military man valuable ; chinese valuable ; romanian evidently valuable. what value does us tard bring ?
 mircea_popescu: dood also had serious emotivity probloems -- extremely shy, etcetera. epicycle is perhaps that encounter with the czechoslovak "labour people" when they ask him a (simple, let's be friends) question (context is that he's the hero, against 
soviet invasion, etc) and he totally can't answer.
 mircea_popescu: this is ~the whole story of 
soviet colonization of romania.
 mircea_popescu: not liek the public's doing much investment these days. approx on par with good 
soviet of 1987, had special retainer out of salary for "investments".
 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it works fucking admirably though, compared to the 
soviet approach...
 davout: in 
soviet bitcoinlandia, forkers fork you
 BingoBoingo: Why does it have to be junk? Just because it is 
soviet and nazi?
 mircea_popescu: contrary to the aspirations of the anachronistic-minded science-fanfic author/consumer, the 1970s enjoyed 1970s tech ; and 1970s 2nd world shitholes (ie, the 
soviet bloc) enjoyed 1950s techs as a baseline. or as ceausescu's main tech theft guy said, "they'll sell us yesterday's technology for today's money, but what can you do."
 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he failed to order the national guard to fire upon the parliament, in modern 
soviet terms.
 mircea_popescu: basically, very strong signs of argentinization in the ex-
soviet lands.
 mircea_popescu: but in any case, the process is wildly successful -- the whole "oh noes, corporate responsibility, banks stole our money" went exactly nowhere FOR THE EXACT REASON the usg "banks" play the role of the 
soviet planning committee. such can do no ill, by definition of state in socialism, and so... they WILL be rescued, with "money" freshly printed.
 mircea_popescu: the process was apparently well received by "the society", which is to say poor people. exactly like in the original nazi and 
soviet implementations. except while in the first two the elite actually fled, in this last one the elite is playing the inept game of "i wonder if i can make a steelworks so successful hitler actually steals it from me".
 mircea_popescu: pretty much the only thing that comes to mind is the now famous 
soviet самокритика, and the significantly less famous but culturally much more important habiot of medieval tards to conduct "religious debates" with the jews, lose miserably, then claim "draw".
 mircea_popescu: a) that there was no direct route from imperial ranks to 
soviet ranks and b) that therefore the lenin moment is JUST AS necessary and "Correct" or how you call it as stalin's. there's no "error".
 mircea_popescu: "there will be a moscow exhibition of arts by over 100 sculptors and painters of the 
soviet republics. these were executed over the past five years."
 mircea_popescu: anyway, the whole meeting went in that vein, ceausescu pointed out to 
soviet troops still at praga, gorby was liek "oh, that is a bilateral matter" "da, stiu, este un acord bilateral incheiat dupa ocuparea cehoslovaciei" (yea, i know... post-occupation bilateral). then gorby says they can't agree in this matter and ceausescu agrees with him.
 mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a pile of disinfo and general crap surrounding the events. as an example : on 2-3 dec gorbachev hung out with bush on a 
soviet ship. on 4th, there was the wasaw pact meeting. gorbachev was well excited of whatever, the new bulgarian (mladenov, his college pal) and generally the western press coverage.
 BingoBoingo: Checks one box, opaque to pantsuit. Fails on its 
soviet style USSA idiocy.
 mircea_popescu: but there is a huge difference between intelligent sovereignity and 
soviet idiocy.
 a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 14:25 mircea_popescu: "Although ISIS have repeatedly attempted to claim credit for the shooting, saying Paddock had recently converted to Islam, both his brother and authorities have dismissed the claims. He had 'no religious affiliation, no political affiliation,' Eric said, adding: 'He just hung out.'" << good 
soviet!
 mircea_popescu: "Although ISIS have repeatedly attempted to claim credit for the shooting, saying Paddock had recently converted to Islam, both his brother and authorities have dismissed the claims. He had 'no religious affiliation, no political affiliation,' Eric said, adding: 'He just hung out.'" << good 
soviet!
 ☟︎ mircea_popescu: "regulatory compliance" it's called in-universe. but in practice, they're exactly like the old time 
soviet govt entreprises.
 mircea_popescu: problem compounded by the fact that my only interest in the matter stems from an obscure mention in an post-war anti-
soviet propaganda song by some guy i studied.
 a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 05:36 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what was the 
soviet term for the "moment of realisation" that sovietism is actually a lie ? i forget
 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what was the 
soviet term for the "moment of realisation" that sovietism is actually a lie ? i forget
 ☟︎ phf: asciilifeform: yeah, it was a very niche thing. a sort 
soviet retro future exhibit that somehow survived through the 90s. i don't quite remember what else was there, plasma globes, various magnet accentuated magnetic liquids, that sort of stuff
 mircea_popescu: ie, when at the height of 
soviet obamacare you broke your leg and your mother made you an ad-hoc wooden contraption to fix it, she DID in fact bespoke you a traction, even if it sucked so bad as to compare negatively to african healthcare.
 mircea_popescu: russian womahn : oh it was terrible. during the night they took turns fucking me and during the day they held 
soviet committee meetings to infiereze my whorishness.
 shinohai: In 
Soviet Russia, fluid vaporizes YOU
 mircea_popescu: certainly. but no, sometyhing, anything. "in the past nine years while the republic choked the remnants of 
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-10#1696459 we at the 
soviet biolabs have a) deployed ten thousand chips in the back yard resulting in three different bactins ; and have this microscope that spit out 10k gifs.
 ☝︎ mircea_popescu: 
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-27#1703695 << to quote the definitive formulation of this particular bit of post ww2 new-us-
soviet propaganda (delivered by cagney in the roaring twenties), "there's a new kind of setup you don't understand. guys don't go tearing things apart like we used to. people try to build things up. that's what lloyd's trying to do. in this new setup... you and me don't belong."
 ☝︎ BingoBoingo: So much old trilema to read and link as 
Soviet America collapses
 mircea_popescu: (and , of course, they're making the eternal 
soviet mistake, spending 5bn on "research", except in healthcare, ai, batteries, self-driving vehicles, satellites etc. ie, trying to spend money to rewrite history with themselve in the picture. if you have a fucking clue you never invest in R&D in "hot" shit)
 mircea_popescu: and you know i'm right, because 
soviet distributed goods in the exact same manner, and ppl... didn't "pay" units of nothing for them. and this had no impact whatsoever.
 mircea_popescu: that dude's a fine example of usgistani ersatz. he hangs out in "personal finance" talking about finance, all the while his worldview is purely 
soviet socialism, command economy etc.
 a111: Logged on 2017-08-07 04:30 mircea_popescu: but see, that's not at all the point. for one thing : all scholarship is nonsense. for the other, 
soviet school si entirely propaganda, which is to say "prepare organ donors for a certain way of life". the fucking point of the fixed form 3rd/4th grade composition is to allow the submarginal intellects making up the bulk of the population to tattoo their brains into a form that'll then allow them to survive, as traffic agents
 mircea_popescu: in 
soviet, maybe. in usg, it's really just a social game.
 a111: Logged on 2017-08-07 04:27 mircea_popescu: phf did you live through 
soviet long enough to know the 10yo fixed-form composition ?
 phf: i wasn't actually thinking to the west, i was treating 
soviet union as a self-contained system. the point i was trying to make is that (and this is all very RANDian) in the absence of a market graph you needed an alternative mechanism to encourage cooperation, which in this case was the propaganda system "real 
soviet man does X" etc.
 mircea_popescu: you had any contact with the living memory of 
soviet punk ? was this thing early on, "
soviet too soft, gotta be moar hardcore" youth movement, wouldn't wash, didn't ask women to fuck, somewhat vaguelyt like the great leap forward kids in china.
 phf: it's in the statement of the prisoner's dilemma, "defect" to the hypothetical inquisitors by betraying the other prisoner (i know that the terminology used introduces interesting connotations within the 
soviet regime, but i don't think that's the intent)
 phf: i understand the point though, my understanding that i haven't evaluated in a while was that 
soviet were attempting to solve prisoners dilemma by training "a 
soviet man". brain tattooing makes sense in that respect, though my interpretation is generous to the goals
 mircea_popescu: substitute tattoo of wooden tongue was employed in 
soviet world, to the amusement of early postmoderns in the west.
 mircea_popescu: and the story it tells is that cca 1950 
soviet / 1800 western world, it was already impossible to produce meaningful tattoos due to growing complexity.
 mircea_popescu: 
soviet is very instructive for the anthropologist because it is roughly speaking "summarized early modern".
 mircea_popescu: but see, that's not at all the point. for one thing : all scholarship is nonsense. for the other, 
soviet school si entirely propaganda, which is to say "prepare organ donors for a certain way of life". the fucking point of the fixed form 3rd/4th grade composition is to allow the submarginal intellects making up the bulk of the population to tattoo their brains into a form that'll then allow them to survive, as traffic agents
 ☟︎ mircea_popescu: phf did you live through 
soviet long enough to know the 10yo fixed-form composition ?
 ☟︎ mircea_popescu: phf's nightmare fuel, high octane : being alf's personal secretary in an alt-
soviet ww2 wherein alf is zhukov.
 mircea_popescu: he's exactly right, at that. precisely the sort of thing that happenbs in 
soviet unions.\
 pete_dushenski: "The whole experience was horrifying," says Adam Lackman, founder of TVAddons and defendant in a copyright infringement lawsuit launched by the television giants. "It felt like the kind of thing you would have expected to have happened in the 
Soviet Union." << my fav quote from piece.
 mircea_popescu: how the fuck is he going to run a socialist 
soviet with antitrust laws on the books is anyone's guess.
 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how did they say this in 
soviet, "we pretend to work, they pretend to pay us, long live the socialist republic" ?
 phf: asciilifeform senior plotting the downfall of 
soviet union in his garage, aha, runs in the family
 mircea_popescu: the politruk blather has reached absolutely 
soviet levels by now. what the fuck are they about even ?
 trinque: strikes me every time when I get a whiff of the apparent.. "placehood" what american folks would've referred to as the "post-
soviet collapse space" of the 90s, had
 phf: i'm a 
soviet man, i prepare my own defense even before i start thinking about doing it
 mircea_popescu: meyer lansky is a name you know. anon 
soviet uni professor is a name you do not know.
 mircea_popescu: (at the time, 
soviet industry more or less indian industry today)
 mircea_popescu: this is to say, standard 
soviet matchbox dwelling, like berlin is still full of, came from the maker with a "balcony", which was open to the outside. they -- paid, scions of the decrepit metalworking industry, to solder/weld/glue to the balustrades ugly scrap metal pikes and pipes, and in between them put glass.
 mircea_popescu: afaik they made these built in for 1970s style matchbox 500sqft 
soviet flats.
 mod6: everything is child-proof.  don't get me started about the 
soviet gas can.