mircea_popescu: yeah, that's right. "leadership". of the batshit insane rather than risk averse, utterly scandalous nonsense rather than not ego-driven.
mircea_popescu: (yes, that's nancy pelosi.)
asciilifeform: what's the other one
mircea_popescu: liz taylor.
mircea_popescu: https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2012/10/06/official-uk-government-attempt-at-censorship/ << in other lulz.
mircea_popescu: the TWIST however, is that the bad guys (uk govt) are trying to protect not "officials" but private individuals, from a crazed online campaign by the usual pantsuit. at stakle is the culling of badgers, which are common pests, and as animals have no rights.
asciilifeform: http://www.badger-killers.co.uk << the site in question .
asciilifeform: 'buy this domain'
mircea_popescu: heh
asciilifeform: already hollowed out, seems.
mircea_popescu: well this was a 2012 item
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/GR8td << cache
asciilifeform: lulzy
asciilifeform: reminds me, did they ever unban the fox hunt over there ?
mircea_popescu: nah.
asciilifeform: why foxes -- have 'rights', and badgers not.
mircea_popescu: they do not.
mircea_popescu: uktards are just dumb.
asciilifeform: but apparently not consistently ?
mircea_popescu: ya well.
mircea_popescu: "Our intention is to patrol the cull zones and using Cree LED torches and noise disrupt the illegal shooting of badgers, We will assume that all shooting is illegal until we have been notified by a government body that a farm is licensed. When we have been notified of which specific farms within the zone are legal we will monitor the cull & using Cree LED torches and noise notify marksmen of our presence, not to disrupt the s
mircea_popescu: hooting but to make sure everyone is safe. Please read our legal guide to understand the laws and stay within them." << teh strong scent of anal childhood, "lalala we are calling it something else!!!"
mircea_popescu: overpowering in that earlier piece re stealing people's money to promote ideas of social engineering that the govt doesn't actually have the guts to put in the budget and tax for.
asciilifeform: we have (had?) these folx here in usa. they're the reason why there were armed guards at the rat house at asciilifeform's old lab.
mircea_popescu: "oh, property is not a fundamental right ; but not forcing randos to give it away to our friends may create problems of a most ethereal nature!!11"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sounds almost as if their object were to catch a stray bullet here an' there and then blame hunters
mircea_popescu: and in other important business news, http://www.businessinsider.com/snapchat-ceo-my-emails-dont-reflect-my-view-towards-women-2014-5
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the object of the anal child is to prove to the world that there is no such thing as his father taking him behind the shed and killingh him with a blunt shovel.
mircea_popescu: all other behaviours allign around this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but note that the evan spiegel response is not "so ? do you have a sister ?" but "oh im so ashamed of having pissed into lilly's butt-mouth"
asciilifeform: 'deeply regrets' lol
asciilifeform: 'cofounder of $2 billion photo application'
mircea_popescu: in the sense of hooli having put 2bn worth of bezzle through this particular set of papers.
asciilifeform: noshit.jpg
mircea_popescu: he's worth not enough to buy me a drink irl.
asciilifeform: not even 2bil toothpicks
asciilifeform: i suspect 2bil toothpicks , if actually possessed and wielded, would buy something above this nonsense
mircea_popescu: well, bunch of small items is a popular mid-course anal stretching prop.
mircea_popescu: prolly not toothpicks, but a lot of thin pens works well.
asciilifeform: lessay each is worth a tenth of a penny,
asciilifeform: !~calc 1e9 * 0.001
jhvh1: asciilifeform: 1e9 * 0.001 = 1000000
asciilifeform: buxorz.
mircea_popescu: you don't understand consumer goods.
mircea_popescu: toothpicks with demand are worth 20 bux per 500, and without demand are worth negative 100 dollars per ton to store.
asciilifeform: troo, they takeupspace.
mircea_popescu: it's a very sharp curve, like 1/log(x)*sqrt(x)
asciilifeform: hence why i said 'wielded'
mircea_popescu: owniong many toothpics is exactly equivalent to owning an option.
mircea_popescu: but w/o the implicit underside protection of options. if you're lucky they expire worthless.
asciilifeform: yea makes sense.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in exciting discoveries, http://78.media.tumblr.com/a17587d71f79a3a06e58ecd93736ff1d/tumblr_nqybldNGlF1uyasupo1_500.gif
asciilifeform: in other olds, http://oeis.org/A001608 .
mircea_popescu: this is a gfx thingee
asciilifeform: hm?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the series is used in some graphical engine testing
mircea_popescu: "worst case", sorta like the memory checker patterns
mircea_popescu: trinque is rss still iffy ?
mircea_popescu: and in other important california contributions to world-everything, https://elaineou.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/drugrabbit.png
mircea_popescu: for they with closure experience : https://elaineou.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/shyp-jobs.png
trinque: eh yup, looks like it is. giving it a look.
deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2017/10/02/some-costs-of-importing-randomness/ << Ossasepia - Some Costs of Importing Randomness
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/minigame-smg-september-2017-statement/ << Trilema - MiniGame (S.MG), September 2017 Statement
trinque: appears to have been gagged on a uniturd. thing's due for a rewrite from python to the new lispy stuff.
trinque: pretty sure I've fixed the uniturd removal for now.
trinque: feeds and deeds are gonna get rewritten as part of connecting them to the wallet service.
trinque: once pay-per-lever-pull is solid, plenty of places to go from there.
mircea_popescu: a cool
mircea_popescu: incidentally trinque you got some kind of continuance in place ?
trinque: there's the usual stream of backups; as for bus factor, machine-wise the strategy is ever-easier deploys. in regards to my own pulse, was thinking of giving ben_vulpes a holler, so might as well bring it up now.
mircea_popescu: i would ~really hate~ having to redo the whole deedbot stack (deeds, wot AND payments) in the manner we had to redo btcalpha when mike got sucked back into fiatlife.
mircea_popescu: then again, i would also really hate fucking with a man's work ; so find something that works for you while it doesn't expose us to that downside.
trinque: I'm a stubborn bastard, dead or not.
trinque: most of this bot is still intended to be vpatched and released
trinque: as for getting sucked back into the fiat world, bot runs on my oath, or passed to someone who can.
trinque: speaking of the fiat world, I recently spent an obscene amount of bezzlars working on granting a fella shares in a garden variety llc
trinque: my how the fruits of this land entice
trinque: well and meanwhile the bot threatens to end up a business. a backups service was only the most obvious and low-hanging one that came to mind.
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-10-4#215335 << happy to help
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2017-10-04 02:45 trinque: there's the usual stream of backups; as for bus factor, machine-wise the strategy is ever-easier deploys. in regards to my own pulse, was thinking of giving ben_vulpes a holler, so might as well bring it up now.
trinque: the deposit fee isn't meant to be more than a baseline "help keep the lights on" source of revenue.
ben_vulpes: i could probably boot a duplicate of your stack, wallet excepted, in a reasonably short period of time
ben_vulpes: provided you sent me some code
trinque: great. I'll get you that soon.
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-10-4#215345 << usgistani corporation types and tax optimization is the fucking worst and most terrible vogonic poetry.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2017-10-04 03:00 trinque: speaking of the fiat world, I recently spent an obscene amount of bezzlars working on granting a fella shares in a garden variety llc
BingoBoingo: Anyone know any good resources for learning the Khmer language?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-04#1720585 << i can't see why it wouldn't!☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-04 03:12 trinque: well and meanwhile the bot threatens to end up a business. a backups service was only the most obvious and low-hanging one that came to mind.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-04#1720594 << yes. http://cambodiapussy.com/girls/IMG_C%20108.jpg☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-04 03:56 BingoBoingo: Anyone know any good resources for learning the Khmer language?
BingoBoingo: In other news Ulbricht moved to USP Florence, High which places him in shadow of Ted Kaczynsk's digs at ADX Florence. Coincidentally he signed away his objection to the proceeds of those silk road auctions.
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: and in other car trunks, http://68.media.tumblr.com/88f97d5ad81d3599739f277c2cb146a8/tumblr_nn9n846r7q1r9rafco2_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: in typical sv "useful", http://prismatic.github.io/next-chapter/
mircea_popescu: the thing only croaked 3 years ago.
midnightmagic: argh their waists are so tiny
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/10/04/so-you-want-your-kid-to-be-a-doctor-when-he-grows-up/ << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - So you want your kid to be a doctor when he grows up
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the cia's own manual of recommendable interaction with the usg reich : https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2012-featured-story-archive/CleanedUOSSSimpleSabotage_sm.pdf
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's a classic, was reprinted by, e.g., paladin
asciilifeform: passed around in kid w4r3z for two decades nao
mircea_popescu: i live a sheltered existence among women, cutt off from the boyish universe ;/
asciilifeform: also i will note, the ru works in this genre, are to slightly higher standard.
shinohai also remembers the aboves inclusion in w4rebookz
asciilifeform: 'Post office employees can see to it that enemy mall is always delayed by one day or more, that it is put in wrong sacks, and so on.' << hey apparently my postman read this!11!
mircea_popescu: kinda why i linked it, lotta lulzy nonsense in that vein.
asciilifeform: 'Anyone can break up a showing of an enemy propaganda film by putting two or three dozen large moths in a paper bag. Take the bag to the movies with you, put it on the floor in an empty section of the theater as you go in and leave it open. The moths will fly out and climb into the projector beam, so that the film will be obscured by fluttering shadows.'
asciilifeform: whoever was paid to write this item, must've had a real riot of a time.
shinohai: "Top work Smith!"
mircea_popescu: https://elaineou.com/2015/10/28/startup-self-immolation/ << remember 2013 ? back when dimon had the unmitigated audacity to claim bitcoin is "a scam" and "has no value" while providing "Banking services" and a hiring pool to the likes of ycombinator, and other such scams with no value ?
mircea_popescu: somehow, they don't perceive the need to PROOVE today, preferably before this court, that they aren't a scam and have some value.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how the fuck that is.
asciilifeform: https://elaineou.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/crap2.png << in other lulz
mircea_popescu: pretty entertaining blog huh.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, rando sent me "seo report" re trilema that shows my "organic competitors" whatever that is. they are, in order : google, youtube, wikipedia, reddit and facebook.
mircea_popescu: the true lulz begins however when one digs into wtf is this shit, and discovers that out of google's 255.8 mn keywords (really ? how the fuck, they've one page they publish bad atari porn on) we share 56 ; whereas out of facebook's 63.9 mn (really ? the place where everyone goes to spew has less diversity than google by a factor of 4 ?!) we share... 13.
mircea_popescu: if this truly reflects some kind of machine classification, i suspect i should be pretty fucking flattered. how the fuck do you even end up SO far out there, overlap is in the 0.00002%s
mircea_popescu: bwahahaha, check out the zombie lulz cow : http://observer.com/2015/08/why-i-stopped-angel-investing-and-you-should-never-start/
mircea_popescu: this guy is like the generation's unintentional comedy goldmine
mircea_popescu: maybe they make tuckie beer to go with the 70s billy beer.
mircea_popescu: and in other SV lulz : Scott Banister @nist "Angel investor. Fan of the original open-source operating system: the US Constitution. Member of Altruists for Ayn Rand. Adventist. Married to @cyantist." VS Cyan Banister @cyantist "genderqueer, libertarian, atheist, adult freedom fighter, friend, silly person, partner in life with @nist, partner at founders fund."
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many people in the us are married to someone who is partnered with them ; and related observances.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, on the planet of terrible ocr's, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/YH0vF/?raw=true << reality winner 'evidence' : ohnoez, illicit googlesearchstrings ; http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/vNGBm/?raw=true << jailhouse phone tap output
mircea_popescu: wait, they want to convict her on the basis of having listened in to her phone after having arrested her for the thing they're ostensibly trying to convict her of ?
asciilifeform: ( originals, for the truly dedicated entomologist, are on shittome )
mircea_popescu: "your honor, this person is guilty of our having put her in jail for suspecting her of x crime, therefore please find she is guilty of x"
asciilifeform: and naturally. apparently flies.
mircea_popescu: pretty lulzy.
mircea_popescu: what should i google to be a spy too ?
asciilifeform: 'googled for 'mujahed', guilty, next'
mircea_popescu: srsly ?
asciilifeform: evidently
mircea_popescu: all i get is a wikipedia page.
mircea_popescu: o wait... I THINK I FOUND THE GOLDSTEIN!
mircea_popescu: https://www.facebook.com/public/Mujahed-Ahmed
mircea_popescu: fwiw, "how to donate bitcoin to isis" returns 5 results in .63 seconds (yay!), a newsweek piece from august and some random crap.
mircea_popescu: the source being actually https://www.cfr.org/article/bitcoin-bombs
BingoBoingo: In other sads, Paladin Press closing at end of year https://www.paladin-press.com/
mircea_popescu: this is all about as retarded as the average alt-scam. "here's a grainy pic of some dudes holding aks and random tattoo squiggles, send $$$ to this address."
mircea_popescu: what, because visual association ?
BingoBoingo: Well, if you send $$$ they send you book with more grainy pics
mircea_popescu: such win
asciilifeform: paladin has been going down the toilet for yearz
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, gothamgal ( http://gothamgal.com/ ) is now doing food and clothing. i guess that whole thing about women "in tech" eventually finding their own level wasn't that much off the mark was it.
mircea_popescu is slightly envious of the cheap plastic cafeteria trays and the bounties therein. if only such vehemently delicious pork sausages were available anywhere but in honk gonk.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, "When you fly into NYC from anywhere and land at any of our major airports, it is always shocking how rundown our airports are, just like our subways, in a city that is the epicenter of the world. Every major industry has a foothold here. Watching the rise of homeless on the street and seeing the earth be very angry from hurricanes to earthquakes to fires, just makes me feel extremely unsettled and worried about
mircea_popescu: the future."
mircea_popescu: very soviet experience.
asciilifeform: 'seeing the earth be very angry from hurricanes to earthquakes to fires'
mircea_popescu: this is the intellectual level of the "venture capitalist".
mircea_popescu: one step away from sacrifices to mother-goddess.
mircea_popescu: come to think about it, this is probably the best illustration of us "venture capital" : http://68.media.tumblr.com/e58b026b7e58696272761c3bf4aef8cc/tumblr_nro09h7hdu1sjunbeo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: 0 step away
mircea_popescu: the galz are "investing" in each other.
asciilifeform: from rw omg111criminal googlings, 'palestine jobs' 'living in palestine' 'afghanistan jobs' 'living in afghanistan' 'kabul university' 'how to get rid of all your stuff' 'how to support anonymous' 'how to join anonymous' [ long list of usg linguist job postings in orcistans ]
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: the pantsuit fucktards are really this delulded, aren't they.
asciilifeform: picture this chix, 'tell me, o usg oracle ! how to escape usg and my own skin'
asciilifeform: or alternatively perl script genned.
mircea_popescu: the sheer derealization going on in their skulls.
mircea_popescu: this shithead actually imagines not that she has a market value above 0, but that she has a value above 0 in all markets!
asciilifeform: iirc there was a photo, she was serviceable
mircea_popescu: like, someone in pakistan will hire reality winner.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you know what the price of a woman UNDER TWENTY is in the meat trade ?
asciilifeform: lolhowwouldiknow
mircea_popescu: let me tell you then : a few hundred dollars.
asciilifeform: white meat ?
mircea_popescu: today, same as what it was back when you could buy croatian virgins in the 90s, same as it was back when you could buy twelve year olds directly from the un peacekept darfour, the exact fucking same as what it'd have cost to buy a gypsy girl in 1800s bucharest, or 1600s charlottesville, or for fucks sake, in 200 ad rome :
mircea_popescu: about 8 to 10 grams of gold.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is no such thing as white.
asciilifeform: wouldja stick it in a darfour, mircea_popescu ? srsly ?
mircea_popescu: white means "affluent whie male", not cunt.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you know what color the veal was that made your steak ?
mircea_popescu: do brown cows make coffee and white cows milk in your world ?
mircea_popescu: there is no white.
asciilifeform: in fact not. but i do know that it had meat on its bones, say.
mircea_popescu: all women bought by weight are nonwhite by that fact.
mircea_popescu: whiteness is not a matter of skin color.
asciilifeform: i seem to recall a mircea_popescu article re old white chixen in egypt
mircea_popescu: AFFLUENT.
asciilifeform: hm.
mircea_popescu: whiteness means property and penis. nothing else.
mircea_popescu: if you're poor, you're not white. if you're a cuck, you're not white. if you've got money and guts, you'll be white no matter what. othello is my witness.
asciilifeform: soo why did turkish slave-harvesters go north, into europistan, rather than south into monkeystan ?
mircea_popescu: and as a side-point to all of this : there's about 155 tons of gold in the world. this means that any female past the 19`405`500th is actually inflationary.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why do they raise holsteins in preference of angus ?
mircea_popescu: some do. those that do, do. some don't -- and they... don't.
asciilifeform: upstack, if mircea_popescu says he wouldn't buy an rw -- i'll believe
mircea_popescu: rw ?
asciilifeform: realitywinner
asciilifeform can't get enuff of the name, simply chokes
mircea_popescu: actually i wouldn't take one for free.
mircea_popescu: heck, i wouldn't take much better ones for free.
asciilifeform: for sake of argument, why do you suppose she'd be any harder to reformat and re-os than the other chix ?
mircea_popescu: evidently. she's 25.
asciilifeform: i thought those were still formattable
mircea_popescu: do you think a child who lived with wolves to age 9 would be more difficult to teach creative writing to than a child who lived with wolves to age 2 ?
asciilifeform: didn't ~most of mircea_popescu's patients livewithwolves ?
asciilifeform: for 2decades or so
mircea_popescu: that "or so" matters.
mircea_popescu: humongous difference in idiocy between 19yo and 28yo.
mircea_popescu: moreover, individuals are individual ; this item here discussed is not an individual.
mircea_popescu: is an item.
BingoBoingo: http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/it-not-done-yet-hun-sen-says-government-crackdown-rebels-isnt-stopping-sokha << More Colours
trinque: natural slut phase is still humming along in that earlier bit
mircea_popescu: might as well ask me if i can re-annimate hilary's worn pantsuit.
trinque: seems entirely relevant to ease of reformatting
mircea_popescu: what, really ?
BingoBoingo: "Speaking at the inauguration of a hotel in Siem Reap province, the premier claimed “rebels” were planning to launch a so-called colour revolution, and that Sokha’s purported collusion with the US was only the tip of the iceberg."
asciilifeform: lol!
mircea_popescu: o noes, teh nulandisms dun work any better than the bhararaisms work these days ?
BingoBoingo: "He added that there were ongoing investigations into allegedly traitors, but when asked who was under investigation, he replied: “Why would you want to know this? It’s about national security. Are you a spy?”" << Win
mircea_popescu: trinque you can in principle discover perfectly sane 50 yo that has somehow survived in a world of utter idiots. women are capable of incredible feats of self-preservation.
mircea_popescu: but if we're talking odds...
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> trinque you can in principle discover perfectly sane 50 yo that has somehow survived in a world of utter idiots. women are capable of incredible feats of self-preservation. << Gotta go to more biker bars?
mircea_popescu: sadly i dun have a consistent unicorn farm.
trinque finds old sluts delightful
mircea_popescu: anyway. reality winner is ugly and unintelligent. these are bars, first to interest, then to potential. so no, 0 interest.
asciilifeform: i'll ftr disagree re the ugly
asciilifeform: but matter of taste.
mircea_popescu: judgement by association doesn't work though. it's firmly possible the most interesting one ever will be 99.99% similar to this one.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, i guess matter of taste. too much of that barbara streisand inbred look to her for me.
asciilifeform: the ugliest bit re rw, supposing the document is genuine rather than perlistic disinfo, is the text . srsly, odin gave moar brains to the pig than to this creature
trinque: https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/18721905_421539764883919_4495621347661053952_n.jpg << looks like a frat bro
asciilifeform: hey BingoBoingo ^ steroisism ?
asciilifeform: *steroidism
BingoBoingo: "Hun Sen in his speech also lashed out at the supposed hypocrisy of the international community, which he maligned for having previously recognised at the UN the murderous Khmer Rouge – to which he once belonged – only to condemn him now for the arrest of a purported traitor. “I only enforce the existing law,” the premier said. "Why can I not [punish treason]? I don’t do it for my own life, but for the happiness of the whole co
BingoBoingo: untry."" << OMG why does the fake news media always have to hate on Great Again
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Strong possibility
mircea_popescu: to revisit slightly upstack, the reason i even mentioned gothamgal is this classic piece from 2015 : http://gothamgal.com/2015/07/recapping-a-round/
mircea_popescu: very amusing because of the slug reaction to salt : "what do you mean our failure means worthlessness!!!! THAT IS NOT HOW WE WERE PROMISED WORLD WORKS!"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: shouldn't be perma-effect tho. betcha she's gone back to looking like woman again, after few months of clink
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not how this usually works. there's two kinds of women in jail.
mircea_popescu: and it seems evident she's trying to butch.
asciilifeform: can try as much as wants, no moar injects though
mircea_popescu: you are indeed naive.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Apparently the "going back" part is unpredictable in women.
asciilifeform: what, will buy them ? from whom, with what
mircea_popescu: !#s inmate had children with prison guards
a111: 0 results for "inmate had children with prison guards", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=inmate%20had%20children%20with%20prison%20guards
asciilifeform: spoodje is free
mircea_popescu: orly. pretty sure this was in logs.
asciilifeform: it was in the logs
asciilifeform: !#s guard impregnation
a111: 0 results for "guard impregnation", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=guard%20impregnation
asciilifeform: hm.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you can have the guard act like your subby with her asshole, you surely can have her bring you roids.
mircea_popescu: in self-same asshole at that.
asciilifeform: but why would he fuck something that eats roid
mircea_popescu: "why do you stick those in your asshole ? not like anyone searches you" "he wants me to."
asciilifeform: in other crackpotisms, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/lXsRB/?raw=true << supposedly crackpot d00d continued work of howard morland, for 40y, e.g. suing usg ( https://energy.gov/oha/downloads/fic-16-0001-matter-yogi-shan ) , gathering leaked gibblets.
asciilifeform: the one of the few interesting claims - 'A D-T boosted, fractional crit A-bomb could use reactor-grade (25% Pu240) plutonium, instead of the normal 5.5% Pu240 Weapons-Grade Pu, with no degradation of yield.'
asciilifeform: seems ^ plausible.
mircea_popescu: it does
asciilifeform: the other interesting bit, 'The minimum yield required to initiate the D/T gas in the H-bomb‟s boosted Primary or in boosted atomic weapons is only about 20 tons/0.02 kt.'
asciilifeform: most of the usg disinfo , just as literate folx always suspected, aimed to inflate the apparent cost.
mircea_popescu: i suspect the limit is technological not physical.
mircea_popescu: much like "how big should a pixel be". it works for them to make bombs a certain size, so that's the size "bombs must be"
asciilifeform: in su this resulted simply in heavier rockets.
mircea_popescu: then the "nobody could have predicted" "innovation" of mirving rockets that were too large in the 1st place.
asciilifeform: ( incidentally, happy sputnik day )
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the broader point : if you say one middle class individual couldn't, in his spare time and with his spare cash build a thermonuclear weapon during his lifetime starting 1980, you may be true.
mircea_popescu: if you say the same, starting in 2000, you may still be true.
mircea_popescu: perhaps, even, if you say it re 2020.
mircea_popescu: but if you try for "never" you are certainly wrong.
asciilifeform: i dare say not true in 20, considering that saharov-style compressive flux generator ( i.e. linear dynamo powered by trotyl ) can almost certainly substitute for those 20ton-equiv of pu
mircea_popescu: conceivably.
mircea_popescu: i've no idea, i never worked on a nuclear bomb.
mircea_popescu: solid state physics though, it dun stand still.
asciilifeform: esp. if you make clever use of the magnetic pulse for confinement, while the electric does the work
asciilifeform: the whole 'art' of the n00k, is the hold-it-still-long-enuff
mircea_popescu: let's put it this way : if you took the people who did the original centrifugal separators and had them made ping-pong playing drone instead, they'd have failed.
mircea_popescu: "but why, it's just spinning things precisely". ya, well...
asciilifeform: traditional fissiles are dead end, from crackpot pov
asciilifeform: takes toomany joules.
asciilifeform: ( esp if you count the joules sunk into the oddball metallurgies, to make the pipes )
mircea_popescu: 3d printing!!111
asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's reading of the histories, much of what usg did since '45 has been to create exaggerated impression of difficulty; and it was done at the cost of wasting ~own~ resources whenever possible, in stupendously massive way
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point being that many unsurmontable tech problems of the 1940s are hardly worth the mention today. "it's called a servo, duh" etc.
asciilifeform: fissiles per se, in particular, have not been strictly necessary since perhaps 1970.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's all part of the http://trilema.com/2015/i-think-you-drastically-overestimate-the-military-importance-of-nuclear-weapons/
asciilifeform: and whole 'separation plant', 'go and machine perfect sphere out of pyrophoric poison', etc -- red herring.
mircea_popescu: how better to be convincing that snake oil works, than by pretending it is very very expensive ?
mircea_popescu: it IS snake oil after all, as opposed to schmaltz.
asciilifeform: the snake aspect is in the 'apocalyptic' meme
asciilifeform: n00k worx perfectly fine to annul the advantage of columns of tanks, expensive jets, etc.
asciilifeform: this Would Be Wrong from inca's pov, naturally.
asciilifeform: so we get the memewars.
asciilifeform: su happily played along, incidentally, for the obvious reason.
asciilifeform: the myth of the 'but otherwise, nukefest, apocalypse' is one of the glues holding incatronic empire together.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "columns of tanks".
mircea_popescu: how useful atomic detonation is against a jet, remains dubious.
asciilifeform: quite useful, 0 meaningful shielding
mircea_popescu: but it DOES destroy the convention of "all good things flow to city", which has been the rallying cry since the times of parmenides.
asciilifeform: and dynamically unstable, thing will fall like brick.
asciilifeform: and city, and whatever other fortification.
mircea_popescu: you couldn't have such a thing as "bay area" if every elliot around there could just donate a few peta bequerels to the general area.
asciilifeform: would last as long as the medieval castles did against gunpowder.
mircea_popescu: which is the point. elaine wants to live in city, elliot hasn't the sense to fuck her over.
mircea_popescu: has been the mo of humanity for what, 3k years.
asciilifeform: elliot likely could not produce even 18th c. cannon with own hands, much less n00k.
asciilifeform: joe stack, on other hand..
mircea_popescu: and elaine likely could not produce 1800s warsaw ghetto with her own hands, let alone san francisco.
mircea_popescu: what of this ?
asciilifeform: 1 is cumulative fungus, other is not.
asciilifeform: no shit midden ever detonated.
mircea_popescu: 1 is cumulative fungus, other is non-cummulatiove lottery ticket.
mircea_popescu: if we're talking odds...
asciilifeform: i dun see how odds enter into it.
asciilifeform: the odds for elliot are not epsilon, but 0.
mircea_popescu: this is the point here : elaines accumulate, havin babies, but their upper bound is epsilon (having babies). elliots do not accumulate, being incapable to even communicate.
mircea_popescu: however, their upper bound is unknown at best.
mircea_popescu: so it's : to blow up, either pile enough epsilon elaines until it sums to blow up ; or else keep pulling pins out of elliots, until one does it.
asciilifeform: is it possible that we disagree what means 'an elliot' ?
mircea_popescu: perhaps.
asciilifeform: i picture that it means 'illiterate luser, unable to so much as change a tyre'
mircea_popescu: an elliot, modelled after and in homage of historical elliot rodgers, is individual who deems world is at the bar to justify its continued existence to him.
mircea_popescu: an elaine, modelled after no one in particular really, is individual who deems connecting with her sisters is a definitive strategy.
asciilifeform: 'female wail' (tm)(r) ?
mircea_popescu: if you will. usually, it's called "mankind", for unclear reasons.
mircea_popescu: "the continuance of life on land", if viewed from zootehnist/slave ower perspective.
mircea_popescu: to elaine, the city is a paramount construction, which is why it was the first invention. this is not avoidable. as it happens, elliot to date hasn't well figured out ways to destroy the city.
mircea_popescu: locally, temporarily, but nothing significant.
mircea_popescu: except, of course, for the nuclear bomb, which is why all the apoplectic femlit on the topic since 1940s.
mircea_popescu: anyway. that's the original pussygrab. "will (((we))) ie, men, finally ruin (((the world))) ie gynecaeum ???"
asciilifeform: the tale with koschei's needle etc. inescapably comes to mind.
mircea_popescu: the problem is ~nobody wants to live without women if they can help it. as exemplified by say the nazi jew airbnb ; and as explained by say shaw.\
asciilifeform: that, and mircea_popescu's ro joak with the running hen
mircea_popescu: so elliott doesn't stand very good prospects.
mircea_popescu: besides, there's a reason young males are the expendable biomass in all sexuate species.
asciilifeform: somewhere in the back of the hindbrain, the gynecaeum inmates want this ruin to wait for'em, for the fortress to be... pregnable
asciilifeform: it wasn't clear that the original, named elliot's problem was with the chix
asciilifeform: it was 'with system'
mircea_popescu: well yes. "how dares this world not justify its continued existence to me"
asciilifeform: sorta like mircea_popescu's jar mouse , only superficially 'hated the glass'
mircea_popescu: nah, mouse had a much flatter problem.
asciilifeform: mouse did not, i suspect, devote rest of his days to smashing glass wherever found.
mircea_popescu: animals don't hate.
mircea_popescu: kinda why they've no rights.
mircea_popescu: if the item will not play over multiple meets, it is not a subject of legal protection.
mircea_popescu: only things that will hate, which is to say, punish you in this game for your misbehaviour in previous games, can possibly be protected by a law.
asciilifeform: q is whether elliot is mouse, not whether mouse is a man
mircea_popescu: seems to me he set out some standards for the world to meet, ie vehemently delicious pork chops and cali blonde private whore ; and when world failed to live to them he "terminated" it as best he could.
mircea_popescu: the key part in the atomics-of-the-masses discussion is that "best he could".
asciilifeform: ( does mircea_popescu much hang out with folx who see mouse as man ? it isn't a thing that'd normally occur to asciilifeform , say . where does he get the vegetarians )
mircea_popescu: he's ineffectual because why the fuck would we help him.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i strive for variety.
mircea_popescu: and in other news, holy shit reading the "venture capital" blogospam is A LOT like going through clinical notes on schizos with systematised delusionary processes.
mircea_popescu: fucking tiresome.
asciilifeform: nigerian prince spam moar interesting.
mircea_popescu: interesting perhaps not the right word. nigerian prince a lot more like bangbros porn ; these idiots a lot more like jane fonda trying to pretend she's srsly acting in a srs film.
mircea_popescu: she's a fucking workout trainer, but whatevers, can be anything amirite.
BingoBoingo: In other delusionism http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/government-aligned-fresh-news-seemingly-bludgeon-ruling-party << "Seemingly based on little more than innocuous Facebook photos, the dire warnings of conspiracy and "colour revolution"" << Hazards of allowing pantsuits a press
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-04#1720769 <<< *beep, beep beep*☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-04 18:03 asciilifeform: ( incidentally, happy sputnik day )
BingoBoingo: And further research on un-transparency http://www.khmer440.com/k/2017/08/would-the-u-s-state-department-cover-up-a-bar-fight-involving-an-embassy-staffer-at-golden-sorya-mall/ << "According to the cover letter that accompanied this nine-page bukkake of whitewash, the State Department claims that providing any information at all about this public bar fight involving an U.S. Embassy staffer "would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion
BingoBoingo: of personal privacy.""
mircea_popescu: heh\
diana_coman: mod6, the online build (at least that one) of trb seems to require also bzip2 -> to add to deps at http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html ?
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG panzers! does anybody in l1 want a sage probe ( http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1887 ) for anything, and dun have one yet ? i bought one from the d00d in the comments to my orig. article, for next-to-nothing . if any of you lot want it, it's yours for cost of postage
asciilifeform: diana_coman: which part needs bzip ??
asciilifeform: i don't recall any such thing
diana_coman: I don't recall that at the offline build either; still, this time I tried the online build and...
asciilifeform: diana_coman: post the barf plox
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the spurious knickers club retreat, http://68.media.tumblr.com/4b90cda85d1d6d4c8e15372fb7e83552/tumblr_n3erqwBYaN1ryu3gco1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: ... and then the tub tipped forward
mircea_popescu: naa
mircea_popescu: anyway, the lulzy part is that it's so plainly obvious who's the gf and who's the hired ho.
asciilifeform: how's that
mircea_popescu: well, gf knew what's gonna happen, so no makeup, wine blush. hireling didn't know, full make-up in tub, eye and cheek.
asciilifeform: !~later tell BingoBoingo didja actually end up parked in south asia, or only on historic kick ?
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !#s brass pole in bangkok
a111: 3 results for "brass pole in bangkok", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=brass%20pole%20in%20bangkok
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Historic kick would be a fair description
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/i-ate-some-pie/ << Trilema - I ate some pie
asciilifeform: ' 'Why do the nutrition facts tell me there are 25 crackers in a serving, 11 servings to a box? Just give me the nutrition facts for the whole damn box, that’s my serving size.' ' << lol!!
diana_coman: asciilifeform, barf: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wJ9yF/?raw=true
asciilifeform: aaaaah buildroot.
asciilifeform: aite.
asciilifeform: ( btw is it clear that buildroot is only part of the trb universe because we dun have a musltronic linux to do ordinary stator builds in ? )
asciilifeform: ^ for completeness would also say ' a bsd would, in theory, work ' but practice has not confirmed : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-06#1694302☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-06 03:01 asciilifeform: wedge at 168000 apparently.
mod6: <+diana_coman> mod6, the online build (at least that one) of trb seems to require also bzip2 -> to add to deps at http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html ? <+diana_coman> asciilifeform, barf: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wJ9yF/?raw=true << noted, will add, thanks!
shinohai: Run moar Gavinisms: http://archive.is/7Tz80
asciilifeform: 'The consensus rules do not permit spending from a P2SH output that requires a >520 byte push.' ahahahahaha
shinohai: "It's known that the limit is small, and this was a design flaw in BIP16 that was not noticed until several years later."
asciilifeform: live by the gavin, die by the gavin.
hanbot 's not sure whether cr biodiversity or cr reasons for power outages has the more entries by now.
hanbot: 3rd time this week, 5th week in a row, if i'm not mashing ctrl s in my sleep yet i'm sure it's coming.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/4upjO/?raw=true
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: http://archive.is/ZEmLV <<< file under `Africa` BingoBoingo ?
BingoBoingo: lol
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/a-better-man-than-i/ << Trilema - A better man than I ?