cazalla: BingoBoingo, any idea if estwing is still a good american tool brand or are they rubbish and just trade off the name now?
cazalla: mircea_popescu, good, just back from morning gym sesh
cazalla: how are things in your part of the world? left argentina?
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BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform like in any field, you piece together the bit reports of people in the know, pondered by their context. doesn't take an expert analyst to figure out briots were convenient cover for underground resettlement. << Lafond says this as well plus moving product into town
BingoBoingo: !~later tell cazalla From what I hear still good. As always check the label/model number in case they start experimenting with Chinesium.
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a111: Logged on 2017-08-07 04:30 mircea_popescu: but see, that's not at all the point. for one thing : all scholarship is nonsense. for the other, soviet school si entirely propaganda, which is to say "prepare organ donors for a certain way of life". the fucking point of the fixed form 3rd/4th grade composition is to allow the submarginal intellects making up the bulk of the population to tattoo their brains into a form that'll then allow them to survive, as traffic agents
trinque: tape your cock to your asshole buddy; they'll make a company manual out of you then.
ben_vulpes: you figure he expected to survive the publication?
trinque: on the contrary, politely offed himself while leaving a "manifesto" written in pantsuit, trying to turn the discrimination term on them and other gargle.
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ben_vulpes: well hey, put a few knickers in some degree of knot, so he's got my vote in the midterms
ben_vulpes: hey professor calculus had a sweet rocket
ben_vulpes: oh and in other tangential discoveries, both google and ms refuse to translate pizdet
ben_vulpes: leading to such hilarious horrors as "fuck it in the pizza"
mircea_popescu: motherfucker the "business report" style of 2017 is unreadable. wtf is with all the bullets and summaries interspersed and omfg.
deedbot: dragonblue voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes pizdet means very good in romanian / moldavian and utterly fucked in some ru dialects.
shinohai: Not bad, rainy day just catching up on reading. You?
mod6: shinohai: ah, not much
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
phf: asciilifeform: no i haven't tried printing it, i saw this version, but i believe it's derivative. there's prior work with much nicer "diffs against dpANS" approach.
phf: also guy's a clown, "LISP" tag, "omg hyperspec is too complicated", "emacs+evil" mode
phf: can't find it in logs, but i'll link you other version when i get to non work computer
phf: is that from the same guy?
phf: a111 is fine, claims to have timed out, was waiting on freenode handshakes
phf: "03/15/2016: Added article on effective Windows usage which contains my opinions and tips on using your computer. Added article Criteria for Software Freedom."
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PeterL: I took a stab at writing my own rsa
PeterL: and so it uses your proposed "virtual otp" straight rsa encryption
PeterL: well, this is just a prototype
PeterL: it does not run mpfhf on packets, that was just a way to hash to get a name for keys
PeterL: not really vital to anything involved, that could just as well use any other hashing function
PeterL: it is not a very long program
PeterL: it also serves as a practice for me for understanding rsa algorithm
PeterL: like I said, prototype, if it works then can be ported to using ada (at least that is my idea)
PeterL: I know it has limitations, yes
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 00:17 asciilifeform: sina: the reason why i am not particularly hot&bothered, is that your prototype does not contain any of the parts that comprise 99+% of the necessary work of an adult gossipd
PeterL: ok, so if I switch the primality algorithm, what do you think of the rest of it?
☟︎ PeterL not master programmer, finds homework useful
mod6: smaller word size creates more iterations eh?
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mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-08#1695453 << you have to. we'd be the first people to move to a cheaper test algo if this was feasible, in tmsr-pgp etc. but as he correctly points out, most of the keys you make are weak. an important point to consider here is weakness propagation : one weak key can potentially expose other key exchanges, resulting in a chain of (unknowingly) lost secrecy. the design will have it ablate over t
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-08 19:19 PeterL: ok, so if I switch the primality algorithm, what do you think of the rest of it?
mircea_popescu: ime, but the only guarantee the design provides is that it will die out EVENTUALLY. for all you know it can survive years through sheer chance. so weak keys are a very serious potential problem for gossipd.
mircea_popescu: PeterL +MAXMESSAGE = << how did you derive the magic number ?
mircea_popescu: PeterL +# IMPORTANT NOTE: if the cs is too small, messages have a chance to get decrypted by the wrong key << what is the logic behind this ?
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-08 21:42 asciilifeform: for only 25% shave off the run time, it would not be worth it:
a111: Logged on 2017-08-08 21:28 asciilifeform: this is as good as it's gonna get without committing atrocities ( asm , parallelism, etc )
mircea_popescu: actually something like "is x unrolling of y" should be machine-provable.
mircea_popescu: do you mean actual loop unrolling, or do yo umean, by-hand optimized/rewritten equivalernt code ?
mircea_popescu: i thought that's done automatically already, in formal verification
mircea_popescu: if not even this works, what is "proving" supposed to mean when they talk of it ?
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to say "carpentry is not very efificent, they need hammers", but the case here seems to be more of a "carpentry does not exist, they require gas planks, which can't exist"