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mircea_popescu: i mean andreicon ^
andreicon: "we added AI to our product" means "we added a bunch of ifs to our code"
andreicon: phpBB was good as it was
andreicon: i'm off, cheers
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682576 << i'm not really aware of this. fill in the $guy ? who ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 16:08 phf: i thought that proper classical education is all about learning how to discriminate? i mean western art has this value of "this guy is good, but not quite. this other guy is as good as this first guy, and he also has that not quite covered. he's the true master"
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, i put iron maiden on, whole house suddenly took this very 90s aspect.
mircea_popescu: the killer's breed, or the demon's seed. the glamor, the fortune, the pain. back to war again, blood is freedom's stain. don't you pray for my soul anymoar!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682609 << isn't this literally the travelling salesman ? what moving parts, it's known-hard. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 17:41 phf: i won't the thing to follow some pretty simple decision algorithm: here's a gps list of viable landing spots, here's a gps list of interesting targets. given your positional knowns decide and execute a flight path that'll take the aircraft through highest number of interesting targets before landing in any one of the viable landing spots. surprisingly large number of moving parts in a situation like that
trinque: yeah, I'm gonna join in. great idea.
mircea_popescu: trinque woman cooking, me on the couch, computer smoke in the air... totally, the last good decade.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682626 << only works if it's not cloudy. pretty much the whole of the current shitstack has this alternative explanation ready, that they moved away from things that absolutely not work some % of the time to things that theoretically work universally, no matter how poorly / exzpensive /etc. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 17:48 asciilifeform: ( it worked ok in 1950s (!) with WHOLLY ANALOGUE components. why not today ? )
mircea_popescu: proper army bootcamp ? doesn't work for non-whites. alright, make the modern us army then, it'll be shittier but whatever.
mircea_popescu: on and on in this manner.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682651 << military value of accuracy isn't even quantitative, but qualitative. you won't even WANT nukes if you can get centimeter resolved delivery guaranteed. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 18:00 asciilifeform: so no, you won't find one at 'microcenter'.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: clouds dun exist at the rocket's march height
asciilifeform: so nope.
asciilifeform: ( all current icbm -- stellar-guided. just as in 1962. )
asciilifeform: 0 radio.
asciilifeform: ( famously, not even a cancellation signal receiver. or so claimed, i suspect that it's a lie )
asciilifeform: now to be fair, ballistic rocket only needs guidance for maybe 10min.
mircea_popescu: i thought he was doing a plane thing ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf? prolly
mircea_popescu: so then what are we talking about.
asciilifeform: phunphakt -- 1st model of 747 had a hole for stellar nav
asciilifeform: liner also dun give a fuq re clouds
asciilifeform: clouds are only problem for infantry.
asciilifeform: and navy.
mircea_popescu: q
mircea_popescu: and roflcopters like hackerspaces futz with.
mircea_popescu: trinque "face up, make your stand, and realise you're living in the golden years". fucking said it outright, also. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i often wonder what the practical speed and ceiling are, for 'roflcopter'
asciilifeform: why couldn't it, in principle, work as strela.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682684 << ftr, theoretically optimal gps fix resolution is in the cm range. coupla inches demonstrated in practice. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 18:23 mircea_popescu: i am also suspicious of the 1 max 5 common best fix.
asciilifeform: ( battery sux, yes, but does it prohibitively suck. )
mircea_popescu: hey, get a RTG, fly across atlantic on it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's for stationary antenna
asciilifeform: the cm figure
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is no such thing as stationary in this context.
mircea_popescu: it is however for machine capable of complex partial derivates work.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no rtg will lift itself in atmosphere. for same reason as steam engine will not.
asciilifeform: power/weight.
mircea_popescu: what, you shield it too ?
asciilifeform: not shield problem
asciilifeform: radiator.
trinque: midnightmagic: goddamned being a man anthem right there.
trinque: d'oh
trinque: mircea_popescu:
trinque: and they have many
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a 400kg or so rtg, gives 100w or so.
asciilifeform: heat engine - has 2 ends
mircea_popescu: eh, get out. stick of polonium actually glows blue. 140W/g!@
asciilifeform: 2nd law, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: make better couplings!
asciilifeform: the cold end, as with stirling engine, is the bitch.
mircea_popescu: you're gonna make me a ... thermic engine, to power an electric motor out of electon emitting battery ?
asciilifeform: would work great for autonomous narcosubmarine tho.
mircea_popescu: wtf is this. use the electrons!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had the betavoltaic thread not long ago
mircea_popescu: ten kgs of polonium are good for 140 days, during which the missing 5kgs will have produced 700 kW. enough to get across teh seas
asciilifeform: kw-hr ?
mircea_popescu: no, kw.
asciilifeform bangs head on desk
mircea_popescu: well ? it decays.
asciilifeform: kw ain't a unit of energy
mircea_popescu: am i gonna have to actually do the true maffs here
asciilifeform: at least dun abuse the units, what didtheyeverydotoyou!111
mircea_popescu: starts out as 140watt-seconds each gram. decays.
asciilifeform: see the k40 thread for full calc.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1658654 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 20:00 asciilifeform: oh btw mircea_popescu , a mol of k40 :
mircea_popescu: i dun wanna do mols of polonium cuz it's heavy.
asciilifeform: you do the g/mol conv. as in kindergarten.
asciilifeform: y'know, the # printed on mendeleev table.
mircea_popescu: i dun wanna
asciilifeform: make trained pet do it
mircea_popescu: anyway, the naturally occuring (210) does a 5.3mev decay to lead which is of interest.
asciilifeform: ( this also brings to mind the 'fly to buenosaires on batteries' vintage thread )
mircea_popescu: !~calc 6.023 * 10**23 * 5.3 * 10**6 * 1.6 * 10 ** -19 / 84
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 6.023 * 10**23 * 5.3 * 10**6 * 1.6 * 10 ** -19 / 84 = 6.080361904761904E9
mircea_popescu: 6 Gjoules / gram
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C64C7349E185995A35DD3CD83C8A547ACB469A762F1F052320EF12E768A0E727 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1542...0439 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (92-223-162-81.ip274.fastwebnet.it. IT)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C64C7349E185995A35DD3CD83C8A547ACB469A762F1F052320EF12E768A0E727 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1415...4357 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (92-223-162-81.ip274.fastwebnet.it. IT)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F3505E30A8EC26D039A902D7AE7FD2CF732B787FD93C5A19F58A8876B4221EB5 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1646...9577 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' ( US MI)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F3505E30A8EC26D039A902D7AE7FD2CF732B787FD93C5A19F58A8876B4221EB5 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1400...0629 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' ( US MI)
mircea_popescu: so leave with 10kgs of po 210, arrive with 5kgs of po and 5kgs of lead, have a grand total of 30 Terajoules of energy for the trip. try not to waste so much you can't gain orbit.
asciilifeform: now if we had the induced beta thing.
asciilifeform: ( see thread from may )
asciilifeform: and i doubt there ever existed 10kg of po210 .
asciilifeform: ( or even 1 kg )
mircea_popescu: fine, 10 grams, takes you down to 30 gigajoules for the trip.
mircea_popescu: still counts for a few jerrycans.
asciilifeform: price 1g some time.
mircea_popescu: so if you can't buy it steal it.
asciilifeform: tricky to steal item than only keeps in warehouse for ~yr, that there's maybe 1g of total on planet3.
mircea_popescu: hey, i just make the plans, i don't implement them!
asciilifeform: at any rate if you had induced-beta thing, no need to steal anything, sr90 lying around phree, folx will beg you to take
mircea_popescu: where's the adventure in that
asciilifeform: in coming out alive..
mircea_popescu: there is that.
asciilifeform: upstack: the lithium thionyl battery ( see thread.. ) is actually exactly what you'd want, for 'circumnavigate globe in lolcopter'
asciilifeform: laughs at -40c
asciilifeform: and roughly half the joule/g of petrol.
asciilifeform: no prop icing, also, because... no exhaust
mod6: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform, tmsr~: http://www.mod6.net/ffa/from_thinair.html
mircea_popescu: mod6 its routines!
mod6: ack!
asciilifeform: neato mod6
mod6: fixed :] thx.
mod6: found another incorrect 'its built-in dumper' too. herpaderpa
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/10B9C5AD7BF686D2783039BCD49B6030C3CAF62449D619C7C0CD762096767C55 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1718...0037 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown DE)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/10B9C5AD7BF686D2783039BCD49B6030C3CAF62449D619C7C0CD762096767C55 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1438...4343 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown DE)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/FDCE223C38F58E8566151DC7B61CE305D163C1653C88FAB37AFC33CF23AF24C8 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1672...5009 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (magic.infonova.co.th. TH)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/FDCE223C38F58E8566151DC7B61CE305D163C1653C88FAB37AFC33CF23AF24C8 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1557...7287 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (magic.infonova.co.th. TH)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/15AEAD26B1D41896A4CBCECBC7A6D3147157549809CFEED0C8486BDF99DCEBD3 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1757...1549 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail.jacques-rijckaert.be. BE WAL WLG)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/15AEAD26B1D41896A4CBCECBC7A6D3147157549809CFEED0C8486BDF99DCEBD3 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1509...8969 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (mail.jacques-rijckaert.be. BE WAL WLG)
asciilifeform: mod6: shl in some longer numberz
mircea_popescu: very short and elegant really.
mod6: i can certainly try some things like shifts, rotates, etc and make a part II, or III if req.
mircea_popescu: someone should use it to calculate factorials imo.
mod6: moar to come.
mircea_popescu: "here's a list of factorials calculated by alf's ffa : "
mircea_popescu: "this last one took about half a day overnight while i slept"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you can even say right nao how long N! will run.
mircea_popescu: aha
mod6: ah, sure. can try some of these too.
asciilifeform: without doing it.
mircea_popescu: i think fgor most bright young minds it's the first encounter with "wtf bs 8bit"
asciilifeform: mod6: another phunexperiment - change the word size.
asciilifeform: it dun have to be a machine word
mircea_popescu: well yes!
asciilifeform: or even multiple of it. so long as it fits in one.
mod6: i've tried using like 2**8, and 2**16 too iirc.
mod6: just spits out a shorter FZ as expected.
asciilifeform: ( spoiler : linear speed ding )
asciilifeform: and yes, thing will work ok in msdos.
mod6: for instance, 2**8:
mod6: :!./ffa_test
mod6: 0000000000000024
asciilifeform: in realmode.
mod6: i need to integrate W_Mul_Comba & W_Add_D and do some of the other things suggested above.
mod6: currently using an ffa sneakpreviewed ~3 weeks ago or so.
mod6: (contains completed karatsuba, but no comba)
asciilifeform: mod6: i posted this today
asciilifeform: would post whole thing again, but currently rearranging bunch of things to go with the fascism pragmas
asciilifeform: incl. - yes - gotta change the invocation again.
asciilifeform: ( no moar record type. plain array of words everywhere nao. )
mod6: ah, ok.
shinohai: http://archive.is/7TqvG <<< lol Alpha Bay admin conveniently does an hero in his cell
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682355 << mod6 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 14:15 asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ZZVgC/?raw=true << like this.
asciilifeform: shinohai: lel, overexcited cokemachine operator..
mircea_popescu: "according to Andrei Barysevich, a director at Recorded Future Inc., which sells data about online threats and the Dark Web."
mircea_popescu: check them out lolz.
mircea_popescu: such a strong "we have america! in russian!" vibe these things give me
asciilifeform: orcs aim to please.
asciilifeform: luxor centre for malwaremen
mircea_popescu: no, not that part. the "i would like to interact with bitcoin" sed lizzard, "but i am afraid contact might be transformative. wut do ?"
mircea_popescu: "oh i know... have a fiat corp sell dataz about it! that'll be so still usgtronic it wikll be safe!"
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682355 << mod6 << ah ok, thx. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 14:15 asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ZZVgC/?raw=true << like this.
mircea_popescu: all influenza victims died with antibodies in their bloodstream after all
asciilifeform: ~of~
asciilifeform: bonuslol.
mircea_popescu: reminds me of how 90s courts wanted paper printouts of webpages as FILED EVIDENCE!
mircea_popescu: maybe that'll protect them who knows
asciilifeform: prolly still do.
asciilifeform: ( recall lavabit )
mircea_popescu: and such world of good it did them, too.
mircea_popescu: thing is, if you don't like something all you really gotta do os shake head really hard and go nopenopenopenope. that's it.
asciilifeform: worx better if head against the wall!111
mircea_popescu: or if ass against proboscis.
trinque: ah, in 2017 screenshits of your ipnoje are evidence.
mod6: asciilifeform: got it, add parts, works!
asciilifeform: incidentally i always wondered if the 'rule of law' derps simply take whatever comes out of 'lexis' as authentic precedent
mircea_popescu: 100%. tried and tested.
trinque: gotta be screenshitted by a super cereal digital forensics guy though.
asciilifeform: or insist on looking at old deadtree
asciilifeform: because otherwise...
mircea_popescu: average paralegal is not capable of retrieving old dead tree
mircea_popescu: even if present in firm's library.
mircea_popescu: also young of counsel less qualified than average paralegal in his chosen profession
mircea_popescu: (it's ok though, he "does networking" and "is working on his personal brand" which is jhust as good)
asciilifeform: lel
mircea_popescu: and also, and this is the best part, just about 0% measurable "this is not right" in folks under 40, even when presented with egregious "subtle" changes in supposedly very well known, foundational tests.
shinohai: This will be much to the chagrin of asciilifeform I suspect, but the darknet masterminds on reddit are warning of those that used "Auto Encryption" on there LOLZ http://archive.is/7gcTS
asciilifeform: shinohai: wassat
mircea_popescu: WILL gleefully fix grammar error and move on ; no shits given to the obvious "wait, how come there was a glaring gramatical error in supposed reference text"
shinohai: asciilifeform: Appears Alpha Bay had their own Magic encryption service built-in
shinohai: For those too lazy, etc.to GPG
mircea_popescu: "In the first six months of 2017, AlphaBay sold more than $5 million in stolen credit-card numbers, Mr. Barysevich said. “AlphaBay was the biggest marketplace on the Dark Web,” he said."
asciilifeform: shinohai: whaddayaexpect of imbeciles for whom the tor cmu thing, sr parallelcons, etc neverhappened
mircea_popescu: AHAHAHAHA
mircea_popescu: bwahahah oh help me rwanda.
mircea_popescu: the 2017 benchmark report has online fraud at about 12% of us gdp, which is to say -- bigger than black people. twice over.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile sub million/month was "the biggest" ? the biggest what, the biggest pimple on barysevich's micropenis ?
asciilifeform: i suspect that most of it is http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-10#1517871 . ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-08-10 18:56 asciilifeform: goes right back to the 'soooo you won't spend yer money on konsoomer crud, terrorist? we'll HELP you'
asciilifeform: ( usgological 'economy' is structured so that the cc fraud is essential nutrient to it. hence the studious avoidance of anything even vaguely smelling of a final solution - e.g. genuine crypto, single-use cc #, etc )
asciilifeform: ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-07#913404 ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-11-07 05:21 asciilifeform: likely, no 'xbox' and no actual buyer. just a sp4mz0r washing his stolen cc #s.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> even the lowest javascript monkey has, say, awareness of the fact that his shitter is not plugged into the mains. and can hang a picture, change a filter, etc << No. Seriously put in some time at a hardware store. Be astounded at the idiocy.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: long, long ago, i worked as a sysop, similar
asciilifeform: i never saw the total blindkitten helplessness described by mircea_popescu in $thread, in a male
BingoBoingo: <andreicon> but i take pride in being an above-average thinker so i'm sure i'm in the right place. just don't know why until i read the 22mn lines of logs << Recommend reading Trilema the blog from transition to English in 2012 through 2013 alongside log
asciilifeform: i still remember in uni dorm, astonishment, there existed people who did not own hammer, screwdriver.
asciilifeform: 0 males among these.
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/IXxJ2 << A compliment!!! "Also this bit's quite nicely phrased"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i think BingoBoingo might have been ; and had his private chuckles hence. << Was waking up into personhood. Started exploring active involvement in BTC out of hunger around time of GLBSE explosion. Found fledgling TMSR early 2013, in time to use BitBet on SuperBowl.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> there have been a lot of "tape painting by fake news" events like that. mtgox printing 0's, pirate going on about how "he's going to crash btc", etc. << AHA, environment easier to evaluate back then. Time from "herd u leik BTC" to MP IS RIGHT took little time to discover. Now with all the noise discovery could probably not be made blackout drunk anymore.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: For all idiocies assorted US building codes allow, left to own devices still greater idiocies emerge organically. Like idea to replace sink S-trap pipe with wet/dry vacuum hose because "measuring and cutting plastic sounds hard, and hand tightening slip joints still harder!!!"
asciilifeform: in other usefuls, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avqHf5YU11E
BingoBoingo: Nice
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/07/darknet-market-alphabay-shut-down-alleged-operator-dies-in-jail-cell/ << Qntra - Darknet Market Alphabay Shut Down: Alleged Operator Dies In Jail Cell
BingoBoingo: ty fxd
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cluelessness is not directly helplessness. the best example for this being person trying to navigate thirld world town.
mircea_popescu: dumbass locals signal NOTHING.
asciilifeform: 'dunno where's what in pygmylandia' != 'dun know that toilet dun plug into mains'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform chet had a screwdriver in her purse. with fittable heads. and a tiny one separately.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but it IS cluelessness.
asciilifeform: chet was from the era when people were people.
asciilifeform: y'know, when chix flew biplanes over german lines and dropped frags
asciilifeform: and died like men.
mircea_popescu: was funny, too, with all the airports and shit. "is that a screwdriver ?" "yeah" "you can't take screwdrivers on the airplane!" "no, it's ok, see, it has fittable heads" "ah... uh... i see. well it's ok then."
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform but it IS cluelessness. << AHA, and it transforms it to more finessed cluelessness with actual education and practice. "Is this fasterner best attacked with ratchet, breaker bar, or impact gun"
mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't score cluelessness for stupidity. it's structured and self defending/perpetuating cluelessness that triggers.
mircea_popescu: most of the girls had no idea eg, thermodynamics puts strict limits and firm relations between movement and energy, including as it pertains to their eating. or that all things that exist can be made and are in fact made. or how to evaluate anything, a distance, a cost, a length or a volume. or so on.
mircea_popescu: they come out of it.
BingoBoingo scores it as indicator of environmental defect
mircea_popescu: just had lulz on a walk with girl yest, in that we saw a larger than common cement mixer on a construction site, and i said it's they're normally like a coupla galon's worth, and she agreed, and then she guessed the present one at 30 and i said it's like 120 yeah and she was totally blown out, no way it's 120 galons ? no, liters. this girl, two years ago, misjudged the volume of a hangar she was physically present in by three
mircea_popescu: degrees of magnitude ; and now found a 4x factor inconceivably off for an item half mile in the distance.
BingoBoingo: Progress (actual sort!) not perfection, works while you work it
mircea_popescu: quite exactly. the normal brain will retool if at all possible.
BingoBoingo: This is why conversion therapy works.
mircea_popescu: i've not found it to work in anyone but the young.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/426D6DCE7975B06B502ACEEFD67592401856611663D9997FEC743FEBAE1B507D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1358...7273 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (152-224.80-90.static-ip.oleane.fr. FR)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/426D6DCE7975B06B502ACEEFD67592401856611663D9997FEC743FEBAE1B507D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1607...5277 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (152-224.80-90.static-ip.oleane.fr. FR)
mircea_popescu: very active phuctor these days huh
BingoBoingo: I've seen it work in the old, but then again looking different places.
BingoBoingo: In old requires substantial desperation
BingoBoingo: And still more substantial resignation
mircea_popescu: nah, it leaves sechellae.
mircea_popescu: i suppose different definitions of work
asciilifeform: https://youtu.be/DBmQ7Vbl42Y?t=1m17s << in other educationals.
BingoBoingo: Well, there are different degrees of works
mircea_popescu: ya
BingoBoingo: Daily repreive contingent on maintaining one's spiritual health works when discussion 60 year old alcoholic crack addicts who have more than half a decade of continuous sobriety.
BingoBoingo: Seems to count as works
mircea_popescu: but they can't go into a bar and have a drink.
mircea_popescu: my ex-dumb sluts CAN go into a whatever, starbux, and have a chat with their ex-peers.
BingoBoingo suspects there's less physical pathology in the ex-dumb
mircea_popescu: which was the original point here, started with alf's recoil.
BingoBoingo just likes dropping "conversion therapy works" bomb in log for the point that it is toxic to socialists
mircea_popescu: a is it ?
BingoBoingo: It doesn't feed Inca is one point where it is toxic, but the other point I observe is people when recovering appear to become more ideologically sane as part of transformation.
mircea_popescu: well that;s a given.
BingoBoingo: This makes them more resistant to socialistoid indoctrination. This is why pantsuit loves people smoking the funky green shit.
BingoBoingo: Not occasionally, but habitually
BingoBoingo: Nothing better for pantsuit demographics than brain numbed stoners
mircea_popescu: fo sho
BingoBoingo: For every functional, sane, moderate using danielpbarron there are many more who become chemically demotivated and endumbed
mircea_popescu: im sure.
mircea_popescu: popularily known as flock of seagulls.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/07/harvard-faculty-seek-to-restrict-voluntary-student-participation-in-off-campus-associations/ << Qntra - Harvard Faculty Seek To Restrict Voluntary Student Participation In Off Campus Associations
mircea_popescu: lmao. that's legal now ?
BingoBoingo: Who cares about Law at Harvard?
mircea_popescu: ikr.
BingoBoingo: Surely not alumni Hussein Bahamas
mircea_popescu: inb4 somebody comes up with the idea of forbidding black students in missouri from involvement with the dnc.
mircea_popescu: "pantsuitardation. not even once."
BingoBoingo: Hopefully this is an indicator that we are moving into a lulzier part of 2017
mircea_popescu: i don't see how we could not.
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8295 << More Law'ls
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/07/surveillance-videos-of-mass-attack-on-bart-train-withheld-in-the-name-of-bias-prevention/ << Qntra - Surveillance Videos Of Mass Attack On BART Train Withheld In The Name Of Bias Prevention
BingoBoingo: Congratulations to whaack on his successful submission to Qntra!
whaack: why shux ty
mircea_popescu: ahahaha nice.
mircea_popescu: what do the brits need their own brains for anyway. off with their heads, miserable half-man species.
mircea_popescu: if that isn't an occupation government, what exactly would constitute one ?
BingoBoingo: BART isn't Brits, it is "Bay Area 'Rapid' Transit"
mircea_popescu: oh isn't it british assrape something ? my bad then! ☟︎
BingoBoingo: So presumably raid was less Raperham and more Ferguson
mircea_popescu: this is shockingly enough even more retarded. what will the inference be, that a buncha azns did it ?
BingoBoingo: But it could have also been good at math or owned all the property.
BingoBoingo: lol, I typed too slow
mircea_popescu: those fucking pinoy man, always gangsta and shit.
BingoBoingo: lol, just wait till those Hmong find the internet
mircea_popescu: also, samoans.
mircea_popescu: those are the worst. leberworst.
BingoBoingo: Samoans aren't azn, too big and wrestler stereotyped
mircea_popescu: if samoans aren't azn then why are the japanese azn ?
BingoBoingo: Because the japanese don't want to be azn as evidenced by the white skin, blue eyes, and blond hair when they draw themselves as cartoons.
whaack: peehaps there are no recordings, and many of the alleged "cameras" are made of cardboard to keep cattle in check
mircea_popescu: hm
mircea_popescu: whaack not even so far off, after the huge camcraze of the 2000s washed by and the costs began to mount many places started just running loops of a few days and such
BingoBoingo: brb, sleep
shinohai: "shwifteey described FUCK token as the new Dogecoin," >>> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/evd5je/an-ethereum-token-called-fuck-raised-dollar30000-in-30-minutes ☟︎
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: BTC-E BTCUSD last: 2251.65, vol: 3012.33826 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2273.0, vol: 17874.92457231 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2325.842288, vol: 7348.12240000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2285.287, vol: 5359.70954282 | Volume-weighted last average: 2284.60386455
mod6: mornin'
shinohai: Buenas Dias mod6
mod6: Buenas Dias, Sr. shinohai
mod6: :]
asciilifeform: in other noose, the 'china must be colonized for 300 years to become civilized' solzhederp finally croaked ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( liu xiaobo )
asciilifeform: was thrown in the clink after accepting, iirc, 600k $ from usg , and then 'peace nobel'
asciilifeform: torrent of tears from all orifices of 'our demoocracy' today, re subj.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683463 << british anal re-education temple ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 06:26 mircea_popescu: oh isn't it british assrape something ? my bad then!
asciilifeform: !!up freeuser420
deedbot: freeuser420 voiced for 30 minutes.
Framedragger: [PSA, framedraggerish duties to resume soon and answers to irc pings to come (country move done nao, much win). talk soon] ☟︎
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1683167 << will do ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 23:51 mircea_popescu: Framedragger do me the favour and check if scriba has somewhere on disk a copy of the above tardstalk link content saved ?
asciilifeform: wb Framedragger
Framedragger: ty asciilifeform :)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu is this the link in question? http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1683142 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 23:30 hanbot: andreicon> do share if you have link, pls >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106391.msg1167765
Framedragger: if so, only thing scriba has is -- not a local copy, but a note of link being successfully archived, and link to archive => ☟︎
Framedragger: !$getarchive https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106391.msg1167765
scriba: Previously archived URL: http://archive.is/nQLP9 (this was archived by scriba: yes)
Framedragger: but i'll catch up on log, may be missing (lots of) context
mircea_popescu: Framedragger incidentally, as it just finally occured to me -- are you married, to a romanian girl ?
Framedragger: hahaha NO
asciilifeform: lol should he be ?
mircea_popescu: aaand trinque, incidentally, as it just occured to me -- can you get deedbot payments online by the end of the month ? seems somewhat likely usg is gonna turn off its "webwallet" bullshits from blockchain.info down. ☟︎☟︎
Framedragger: i'm sure mp has some weird probabilistic intel hahaha
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no no, just, two different people telling me you know, a story that sorta was converging. i'm like... no fucking way!
Framedragger: hehe :)
Framedragger bbl, washing up from german fatty food
mircea_popescu: total shot in teh dark.
asciilifeform pictures Framedragger on a pile of sausages
Framedragger: basically.
mircea_popescu kinda misses proper leberwurst
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2948A9C44E91DA3E33AB76F8E300E280318F98B9D533CB0C15DCFB68F28154BC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1518...8989 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (pv.cm-sec.cz. CZ)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2948A9C44E91DA3E33AB76F8E300E280318F98B9D533CB0C15DCFB68F28154BC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1626...1869 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (pv.cm-sec.cz. CZ)
asciilifeform: lol: 'CM security system s.r.o.
asciilifeform: Komplexní řešení zabezpečení objektů'
asciilifeform: didjaknow!
asciilifeform: hey jurov!111
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683479 << a fake news 2nd tier outlet failed to understand how cryptocurrency works 10 years after "covering" it, still imagines sending a trillion tokens for a trip in your wallet amounts to something. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 13:07 shinohai: "shwifteey described FUCK token as the new Dogecoin," >>> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/evd5je/an-ethereum-token-called-fuck-raised-dollar30000-in-30-minutes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lmao y u so troll
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683486 << seems it worked with 30 years of self-colonisation. about the same it took russia, also (i vaguely recall equivalent notion there a century ago) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 15:09 asciilifeform: in other noose, the 'china must be colonized for 300 years to become civilized' solzhederp finally croaked
asciilifeform: jeszcze Česká nie zginela!111
asciilifeform: self-colonization lol
asciilifeform: ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-04#1119717 ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-05-04 18:40 ascii_field: pete_dushenski: this is actually the historic ru model of development, once termed 'colonialism with crown as the sole european'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683501 >> that is the link in question, yes. it's be tremendously useful if it also had a copy of http://archive.is/download/nQLP9.zip stored somewhere. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 16:44 Framedragger: if so, only thing scriba has is -- not a local copy, but a note of link being successfully archived, and link to archive =>
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what;d you call what they did ?
mircea_popescu: right.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: petro-pipereich
asciilifeform: a la saud.
mircea_popescu: it is, actually, the german model. that's how they modernized.
asciilifeform: ru hasn't modernized. pipeized.
mircea_popescu: and then the japanese copied it. to also great success. which is why both japan and russia allied with germany.
mircea_popescu: the simple country boy is loyal, the problem is the town boy is nutty.
asciilifeform: last proper modernizer of ru was old man iosif vissarionovich.
mircea_popescu: well yes, that's exactly what we're discussing, ru went 1910-1940 about same way china went 1975-2005.
asciilifeform: then yes!
mircea_popescu: right.
asciilifeform: i was reading 'today', and wtf'd
asciilifeform: but then -- very muchly yes.
mircea_popescu: so - germany, first. then japan. upon jealous consideration of japan, russia. these tried to actually band together and strangle anglotardism once and for all. they fucked it up, like the idiots they are.
mircea_popescu: finally, after mature consideration, china. and my money's not on the anglotards.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683508 << I'll start chopping things down and aim for it, yes. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 16:47 mircea_popescu: aaand trinque, incidentally, as it just occured to me -- can you get deedbot payments online by the end of the month ? seems somewhat likely usg is gonna turn off its "webwallet" bullshits from blockchain.info down.
mircea_popescu: cool deal.
shinohai: All signs point to this .... blockchain.info is added as DNS seed for segwit2x in recent commits on shithub
mircea_popescu: would have been great if we had a service that had already been open, tested and could be advertised ; but it'll be useful even to have it new, not like the dorks have much memory or mental consideration space anyway.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on reddit, http://68.media.tumblr.com/819174ba7f70638a0c21c2e9083a8ade/tumblr_nw6j1v2Pug1ubttx2o1_400.gif
asciilifeform: lol dns seeds
asciilifeform: i nearly forgot that this existed.
mircea_popescu: you probably also forgot shitwater existed. easy to forget if you're not served it every day.
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, https://68.media.tumblr.com/cfe04343bcc6cbd71ede67255146fdc6/tumblr_ot3c4gShzL1wuktzvo1_1280.jpg
shinohai: Couldn't fault MP for wanting to initial dat
mircea_popescu: mp had nothin' to do with it!
asciilifeform: in other lullomatics, asciilifeform found a trivial 2x speedup for ffa exp
asciilifeform: sometimes i wonder if anybody actually reads these things.
mircea_popescu: only compute half the bits ?
asciilifeform: mno.
mircea_popescu: "and thus they bid farewell to carnal dishes and solid meats, and highly spiced ragouts to live for fortry days on ill-dresses fishes, because they add no sauces to their stews."
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683186 << traveling salesman has approximate solution strategies. besides in this case there's additional complexity of upper limit on travel distance, which is also constantly changing. so if your maximum distance is above shortest path, then you want tsp, but if it's below then you probably have to rely on nearest neighbor/nearest fragment heuristics anyway ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 00:56 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682609 << isn't this literally the travelling salesman ? what moving parts, it's known-hard.
mircea_popescu: phf but necessarily you won't have a closed form solution to an ill defined class of a known hard problem.
phf: of course, but does that mean i should completely abandon the problem?
mircea_popescu: not at all. but -- adjust your expectations :D
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683203 << glider specifically. you drop a glider from a balloon, you have known altitude, air foil and weight, you can figure out maximum distance, but that one's constantly changing, which you can track from rate of descent vs distance traveled. your drop point is also random because of the balloon drift, but it's somewhere around sites of interest ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 01:14 mircea_popescu: i thought he was doing a plane thing
mircea_popescu: for instance : if i were solving this for military purposes i would have the machine list all targets it can visit such that it can still reach one landing spot, and then choose one to visit RANDOMLY. this offers some very strong guarantees : a) each machine will touch one target ; b) the algo can be recursed at ANY point (such as power failure) ; c) if you make a fleet of them you get coverage at no communication expense.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this being what you meant by moving parts.
phf: :)
mircea_popescu: undiscovered externalities moar like it.
phf: well, your basic algorithm is nearest neighbor, but then you can assign random weights to sites of interest, to ensure that different machines prioritize different walks (even if they get dropped from same location)
mircea_popescu: fwiw balloon-glider is a solution to this problem in the sense straight razor and barber's bowl is a solution to flebotomy. it does work, as it did long ago, but it does also kinda ignore the more recent past.
mircea_popescu: if you are destroying the targets the solution is rocket engine, which by now are cheap and easy to make. if you are merely diddling the target the solution is flying lawnmower. (although if you only want to do it monentarily, such as picture taking as opposed to eg van ecking the solution really is satellite).
mircea_popescu: glider bs is ww2 reich wunderwaffen (and i hope you read german for they did explore this to death)
phf: well, it's certainly silly to put all this complicated electronics on a device that would be trivial to also make self-propellent
phf: but without having necessary craftsmen immediately available, it's hard to make fast progress.
phf: i mean, the hackerspaces told me that it's "too hard", but they've been launching the same weather balloons with a camera for payload for like years now. literally a highschool project
mircea_popescu: but that said, a large baloon with a string of gliders underneath that detach bottom first like some sort of strange technofruit losing its seeds like some sort of anemochorious epiphyte.
mircea_popescu: would be one hell of an art item, steampunk or no steampunk
mircea_popescu: of course for maximal artsy i'd make your gliders asymmetrical. give it some nutty spin.
phf: hah, make them talk over radio to do a distributed coordination for tps
mircea_popescu: phf i dunno what you've been doing with your life to this point, but let me point out to you in no certain terms that adjusting what you do by what's available is the child's lot.
mircea_popescu: if you need engine people get 'em, don't redesign around 'em.
phf: how do your attempts to source graphics artists in argentina fit into that?
mircea_popescu: i was mostly looking for sluts.
asciilifeform: and where's my 8192bit cpu!11
mircea_popescu: that's the problem with me, i'm seldom actually doing what i'm say i'm doing.
phf: hah, well, this project has similar pedigree!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i thought you were making it
mircea_popescu: phf lel. found anything good ?
andreicon: good evening
andreicon: haha mp, you an me both
mircea_popescu: phf for my curiosity, don't you find it to work better when the girl's looking for them ?
mircea_popescu: andreicon sorry, i and you both what ?
andreicon: seldomly do what we think of doing
andreicon: i'd rather train others to carry out tasks on my behalf
andreicon: speaking of which
mircea_popescu: how old are you andreicon ?
andreicon: i've coded a bot in js that would voice me when i ask it ☟︎
andreicon: haha
andreicon: haven't i told you?
andreicon: i don't know how to search the logs yet
shinohai: js + crypto, what could go wrong?
mircea_popescu: i've no recollection of it.
andreicon: haha shinohai
mircea_popescu: !#s haha\
a111: 0 results for "haha\\", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=haha%5C
andreicon: i'm passing the decrypt to gpg on the os
andreicon: okay, thx
andreicon: rtfm on my part
andreicon: i'm 29 ☟︎
andreicon: am i allowed to use a bot to get voiced here?
andreicon: it'll run on an azure instance, only respond to me and have its own pubkey registered with deedbot
mircea_popescu: you're allowed to to whatever the hell you please, at least for now.
mircea_popescu: anyway, why do you think you've got something to train others ?
andreicon: not as of yet, i'm still getting my shit together
andreicon: but soon
andreicon: docker swarm + an army of webservers + w3 + truffle
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm pretty sure we've even had that conversation before, re girls looking for girls
andreicon: hopefully i'll have something to sell for mETH
mircea_popescu: phf possibly.
mircea_popescu: andreicon glty.
andreicon: you want mETH too?
mircea_popescu: lol. notrly.
mircea_popescu: i guess there's a lot of new things in the world for you huh :)
andreicon: not necessarily new, just a few things i haven't tried
andreicon: and with the advent of technology, it's now easy to put x and y together and get something exciting ☟︎
andreicon: kinda like btc
andreicon: pow was years old
mircea_popescu: the advent of technology huh.
andreicon: easy access to the same technology*
mircea_popescu: do you mean microsoft windows and javascript ?
diana_coman: andreicon> not necessarily new, just a few things i haven't tried <- the not-exciting ones?
andreicon: srsly, do you think that's all there is to me?
andreicon: windows and js?
andreicon: Linux andrei 4.11.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.11.6-1 (2017-06-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux
andreicon: i admit, i'm deep in microshit at work
andreicon: i find it challenging dealing with the politics, windows degrades itself
shinohai: !#s Debianized
a111: 28 results for "Debianized", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=Debianized
mircea_popescu: diana_coman amusingly enough, i recall a few... dozen moments of this "advent of technology" spring. like you know, Коммунизм = советская власть + электрификация всей страны.
mircea_popescu: andreicon the illusion of "~easy~ access to ~same~ technology" is universally and i find without exception the macula of the modern slave.
andreicon: :)) who coined that term?
mircea_popescu: just as the black worker on the plantation thought he is a slave because god made him stupid ; just so the redditard of today thinks he has easy equal access to everything.
phf: ^ http://club.foto.ru/classics/images/photos/pr/1539.jpg ☟︎
mircea_popescu: phf word.
andreicon: i don't think i have ~equal~ access
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, eh, that's history aka dead things aka things that never even existed 'cause dead, hence... old exciting is dead, on to the new exciting
trinque: check out that guy's hipster garb; they even wear the same clothes
mircea_popescu: andreicon that's what "same" means dunnit.
shinohai: lol trinque
mircea_popescu: trinque back then the gray was soot. it's apparently antiseptic and anti-stenkik.
shinohai: Am I to presume the pockmarked face = smallpox?
mircea_popescu: pretty much
andreicon: mircea_popescu: by ~same~ i meant not new but recycled
andreicon: i mean sha256 and ripemd160 were already available, just hacked into doing something else
mircea_popescu: andreicon yet consider : when the pantsuited hilarity was aiming to somehow establish herself as actually real and existent as opposed to merely imaginary fiction (in the face of trump's onslaught) her argument was ... "i was in the situation room!!!". she was saying, basically, that while she formally appears a redditard like any other, let them not forget that nevertheless she has... priviledged access to... special technol
mircea_popescu: ogies.
mircea_popescu: that was the whole thing. that's all she had to communicate, when all is said and done.
mircea_popescu: so what are you talking about ?
andreicon: then some russki said she runs win2003 on her exchange server and from there it all went to shit
mircea_popescu: mno.
mircea_popescu: the time when people with better access to superior technologies ruined her inept shit precedes this event.
mircea_popescu: (ie yes, the boneheaded fucktard is also incapable of learning from her own experience, but whatever, it's what the us politruk class is all about)
andreicon: so she thought she had the same shit everyone else had
andreicon: she couldn't possibly lose
andreicon: but then it turns out there's hidden tech, some stuff you never knew existed
andreicon: i'm not willing to be a public face for that
andreicon: :))
mircea_popescu: mkay.
andreicon: yea, i'm a skiddie
andreicon: most likely, that's the first thing that comes to mind
mircea_popescu: not specifically. that was mostly a 90s item, resulting from the uneven development of broadband and the uneasy interaction between society and internet.
mircea_popescu: a sort of soviet cultural worker if you will.
mircea_popescu: taught the masses their chief marketable skill of today -- the copy/paste.
andreicon: but is that not a skill?
mircea_popescu: it is.
andreicon: it's actually a trait, you have it or you don't
andreicon: you adapt or get bent
mircea_popescu: women are better equipped than you are to adapt in this sense. plus it self-lubricates.
andreicon: :))
andreicon: they still have years of catching up to do
andreicon: the vast majority
andreicon: i do agree, they have an accelerated pace
mircea_popescu: you know what a system of reference is, in physics ?
shinohai: For those that *don't* self-lubricate, its helpful to be a purveyor of astroglide.
andreicon: but let's win this while we're ahead
andreicon: 'course
mircea_popescu: tell me ?
andreicon: damn be the theoretical definition
andreicon: *ed
mircea_popescu: ...
andreicon: a body or a system of bodies
mircea_popescu: if your definition includes an or it is not a definition.
andreicon: okay, i don't know the formal definition
andreicon: *sigh*
mircea_popescu: look here : in physics (which is a practical matter), you can have such a thing as a set with a measure and yet thereby not obtain an ordering. in mathematics, your ring (set + idempotent/unit items) also thereby has an ordering.
mircea_popescu: this is your error here : when you say "they still have years of catching up to do" you imagine a theoretical construct that has no bearing to reality. just because you're far away doesn't mean you're far ahead. as it happens, you aren't, western women will survive much better than western men.
mircea_popescu: as per tradition.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683606 << ahahahahaha ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 18:27 andreicon: i've coded a bot in js that would voice me when i ask it
andreicon: i'm only observing my surroundings
mircea_popescu: of course.
asciilifeform: !#s reactor rods
a111: 9 results for "reactor rods", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=reactor%20rods
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a journey, huh.
andreicon: okay, "by hand" tells the whole story
andreicon: :))
andreicon: i'm essentially putting a trapdoor in my door
andreicon: it ain't easy being lazy
mircea_popescu: gotta start somewhere.
andreicon: lazy alone leads to certain death
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683634 << the picture that invites itself is that 1890s drunken d00d putting the two wires together ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 18:35 andreicon: and with the advent of technology, it's now easy to put x and y together and get something exciting
asciilifeform: ... he certainly Got Something Exciting.
andreicon: a debate?
andreicon: sparking up a talk is always exciting
asciilifeform: kzzzbzzpt.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683652 << lol лампочка ильича (tm)(r)!!! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 18:40 phf: ^ http://club.foto.ru/classics/images/photos/pr/1539.jpg
asciilifeform: and, oblig, http://citramon.net/uploads/images/00/00/02/2014/11/16/f0a62f.jpg .
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you saw my series of lulzlenins ?
asciilifeform: http://ixbt.photo/?id=photo:1161014 also.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dun think so
andreicon: i'm baffled
andreicon: i actually don't know how to react :))
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2009/lenin-in-imagini/
shinohai: It happens andreicon .... sensory overload happens at first.
trinque: andreicon: what's this :)) about anyway, trying to flirt with someone?
mircea_popescu: trinque he's trying not to be hostile.
andreicon: i'm actually trying not to defend myself too much
andreicon: i know why i may be under a microscope
andreicon: looked down on by a very skeptical observer
andreicon: not why.
andreicon: that*
trinque: the skeptical observers are good for your noggin.
andreicon: but i'm not living with the impression that i know too much
andreicon: or anything at all
andreicon: i came here to learn
andreicon: possibly follow a wave of trendsetters
mircea_popescu: andreicon dun stress out, it'll be okay.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683618 << 'at your age, sergei lazo was already circling around the locomotive!' ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 18:28 andreicon: i'm 29
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: and gengis was what, getting lipstick rainbows on his tiny dick from austrian "students" ?
asciilifeform: lol
andreicon: yea, and mihai the great was 9 when he first ruled
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683212 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 01:21 mircea_popescu: trinque "face up, make your stand, and realise you're living in the golden years". fucking said it outright, also.
trinque: alexander had conquered his known world also, eh?
mircea_popescu: aaaand caesar was weeping at his grave for being too old to matter.
trinque: lol
mircea_popescu: not to mention, a minor bureaucrat with maxed out credit cards
andreicon: guys, running out of juice, be back in 3 hrs. read ya later
mircea_popescu: (tru story)
andreicon: sad story
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally that line sounds SO very odessan.
trinque: andreicon: nothing sad about the towering achievements of better men, aside one's own narcissism
trinque: or if sad's your thing, that's fine too
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lolyes
mircea_popescu: trinque young Martial walks into the office of the Odessan Poet Combine, explains to the man at the desk behind the typerwiter that he wants to be a poet. "are you sad, young man ?" "no." "then what do you want ?!"
trinque: lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and since i'm doing ancient trilemas, here : http://trilema.com/2011/marea-afacere-cu-tuns-iarba/ re lawn mowing!
mircea_popescu: i got errything!
asciilifeform: iirc there was an english of this also
asciilifeform: or at least the last para
asciilifeform: the one about 'beelzebub put them upon the green earth to work to death' or how it went
mircea_popescu: thius is the one yea.
mircea_popescu: i dun think it ever was in english
mircea_popescu: of course now i can't find the whole classification. do you recall where it sez there's two types, the type that prices her cunt to work and the type that prices it to not work ?
asciilifeform: not immediately
asciilifeform: but sounds quite familiar.
mircea_popescu: i need a divine oracle already.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/romanul-si-comertul/#selection-59.0-63.644 << here it is.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, folx pumping MBs of liquishit into snsa shop POST form
asciilifeform: because totally does sumthing.
mircea_popescu: any encrypted yet ?
asciilifeform: 0
asciilifeform: phpolade
trinque: it's the fuzz!
mircea_popescu: aand in other wtf, i just ran into an unexpected wall.
asciilifeform: lolwut
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you know of any russian item more or less like здреанца ?
asciilifeform: nein
mircea_popescu: well here's the beauty of it : this item does exist in russian, according to romanians.
mircea_popescu: !~google "davai zdreanta, desdemona"
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Raw - Kakaia surpriza bre Desdemona . Davai zdreanta . | Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php%3Fid%3D1424556087784473%26story_fbid%3D1694590317447714>; Chemarea Nordului (26): Davai zdreanţa , Desdemona ! | explorish.ro: <https://explorish.ro/2008/08/01/chemarea-nordului-26-davai-zdreanta-desdemona/>; Cacaia zdreanța? - Jurnal de Dambovita: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: i don't mean, it exists a little. i mean it exists like sevastopol.
mircea_popescu: how do you say hankerchief besides batista ?
asciilifeform: платок?
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: you understand an entire people hallucinated a whole fucking etymological line in a neighbour's language ?
asciilifeform: wouldn't be the 1st time
mircea_popescu: but for no gain! just out of sheer wtf , boredom ?
asciilifeform: evidently
mircea_popescu: nuts.
asciilifeform: my dictionary suggests that it is a rag, not a handkerchief ?
phf: apparently the complete form is "davai zdreanta, desdemona! -- kakoy zdreanta, otela, blya??" ☟︎
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you find it ?
mircea_popescu: i thought rag is tryapka
asciilifeform: right
mircea_popescu: phf are you proposing this is merely kishinev nonsense ?
asciilifeform: so that'd be yer word then
asciilifeform: oblig: 'Штирлиц встал утром спозаранку и отодрал на окне занавеску. Он не знал, что Позаранку и Занавеску были румынскими разведчицами...'
mircea_popescu: aaahahahahaa
mircea_popescu: just ftr : Штирлиц should properly be shtirlits.
mircea_popescu: for everyone else : занавеску (zanavesku) is how you say curtain ; but the esku final sounds exactly like the romanian name thing, pop-escu.
asciilifeform: занавеска, ->у because she's getting it
mircea_popescu: yes yes.
mircea_popescu: dream on, shtrliboviz.
phf: asciilifeform: i used to try and clarify the inflection, but then realized that it's mostly meaningless for the anglophones. so however much it grates, ☟︎
phf: "zanavesku is how you say curtain" is probably the correct method
mircea_popescu: he was intimating someone besides ro army conquered odessa!
asciilifeform: hey they're (surprise..) people too, can in fact learn human languages
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's pet is doing pretty well with ru
mircea_popescu: it's all political i tell you!
phf: asciilifeform: same here! but not for genpop
asciilifeform: we have a genpop?!
asciilifeform had nfi it were there, waves to it
phf: the elusive Reader of The Logs, you know nsa agents. don't want them to stress too much
mircea_popescu: political!!!
asciilifeform: poor darlings
asciilifeform: what happened to 'learn langs even if you gotta hang upside down, like odin'
phf: just doing my part in making the logs inclusive AND gender neutral
mod6: can anyone confirm if 14! is 144C3B2800 in hex? ☟︎
mod6: 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000144C3B2800
mod6: i guess online tools say that's correct. neat.
phf: !!up candi_lustt
deedbot: candi_lustt voiced for 30 minutes.
phf: !W (DEFUN FACTORIAL (N &OPTIONAL (ACC 1)) (IF (<= N 1) ACC (FACTORIAL (- N 1) (* ACC N))))
candi_lustt: phf: FACTORIAL
phf: !W (format nil "~x" (factorial 14))
candi_lustt: phf: 144C3B2800
mod6: !W (format ni "~x" (factorial 256))
candi_lustt: mod6: error, see: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cbecy/?raw=true
mod6: !W (format nil "~x" (factorial 256))
candi_lustt: mod6: FF578F57C15BB743BEAA77D27637E02B598DFFA9AEBD15889187FE6EB3BDCA516C3FA1A52EABEF31F33B4B8C2E5B5524F1AA4F3329393912F40DBBE23D7F39723E0BE05B6696B11F8EEA0ABE365A11D9F2735AC7E5B4E015AB19B35B84893685B37A9A0A62A566D6571D7E00D4241687F5C804F37CDE9BF311C0781F51CC007C5A01A94F6CFCECEA640B8E9AB7BD43E73E5DF5D0E1EEB4D9B6CC44BE67B7CAD80808B17869561B579FFE0BBDECA5C83139E458000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
mod6: okiedokie, i get the same thing.
mod6: thanks phf!
mod6: 100ms
asciilifeform: mod6: on what ?
BingoBoingo: OMG, Reddit has a hard on for the Stasi's insistance Alphabay victim found by his captors hanged https://archive.is/UJETj
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> of course for maximal artsy i'd make your gliders asymmetrical. give it some nutty spin. << Maple seeds! ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> that's the problem with me, i'm seldom actually doing what i'm say i'm doing. << OMG spoiler alert!!! That's supposed to take time to figure out.
BingoBoingo: Also http://qntra.net/2017/07/darknet-market-alphabay-shut-down-alleged-operator-dies-in-jail-cell/#comment-105061
BingoBoingo: Was in moderation que
shinohai: 'Twas `assisted suicide`
BingoBoingo: "E drept ca intr-o prima faza am lasat-o sa creasca in legea ei, mai ales pentru ca ocupantii anteriori fura cam nepriceputi la doxa, si taiara iarba dupa metoda de-i zice-n englezeste scalping (adica foarte jos si foarte scurt), pina mi-or umplut curtea de gauri." << This is very common mistake because idiots think "golf course and sports field are shot" and assume shorter is better. They fail to consider that there are different kinds
BingoBoingo: of grasses. ☟︎
whaack: for the well endowed victim
andreicon: /query mircea_popescu ☟︎
andreicon: lol
andreicon: dafuq irssq
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: on what ? << box
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwczkhCMYgM << in other unboxings..
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2011/marea-afacere-cu-tuns-iarba/#comment-56455 << Lawnmower blades usually come from factory painted dull for our safeocracy. Idea is paint wears down and deck gets disgusting which discourages curiosity by the time sharp edge is exposed.
mod6: this is a core i5 box / 8Gb ram
mod6: gentoo
mod6: actually no. deb.
BingoBoingo: !!up testtttt
deedbot: testtttt voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: testtttt: Who is your daddy and what does he do?
mod6: asciilifeform: what is that thing? claymore?
asciilifeform: mod6: su equiv.
asciilifeform: d00d has a number of these films.
asciilifeform: apparently subj was well-packed.
mod6: yah.
asciilifeform wonders if 'unboxing vid' for nuke has yet been filmed. if not, genre has room for growth!111 ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Priorities http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8308
BingoBoingo: Which was a response to http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8301
shinohai: http://archive.is/YO0wN <<< LOL Trump admin doxes voters
BingoBoingo: Well, they should have signed up to do the Reich thing instead of trying to fight it
shinohai: !!up floog
deedbot: floog voiced for 30 minutes.
floog: hello
shinohai: Heya floog ... who's your daddy and what does he do?
floog: he's an old hippie burnout who became a doctor
mod6: asciilifeform: nao 8ms
asciilifeform: mod6: ...what is
asciilifeform: ? and why
mod6: actually, nevermind.
shinohai: !!up floog
deedbot: floog voiced for 30 minutes.
mod6: ok 44ms is more accurate for 256!
mod6: i refactored my factorial code by getting rid of an FZ_Set that i didn't need
floog: !!register http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/hDBGG/?raw=true
deedbot: 7B308B69A7CD283E3B7549DBE9B833266594AD15 registered as floog.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-13#1682208 << when I was a teen-lobbes I worked the service desk at a grocery store. In addition to selling lotto/scratch tickets I also handed out (and, if requested, cashed) the paychex to fellow coworkers. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 03:51 mod6: the worst part about the lotto tickets people, is they buy them, then more often than not (it seems like), insist on scratching them off right there and then.
lobbes: On several occasions I witnessed same 40ish y/o dude cash his check (roughly $200), buy 10 $20 scratch tickets, scratch them on-the-spot, then 're-invest' any winnings until he reached $0.
lobbes: This was always amusingly contrasted with the many foreigners that worked there in the summer; they'd Western Union that shit immediately to home country. ☟︎☟︎
mod6: lol