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BingoBoingo: Reading S.MG statements and S.NSA statements to see how the problem of spending has been handled in past republican ventures
mircea_popescu was even gonna reply to his reply, then noticed the google thing and recalled why he hasn't been commenting, something /me was vaguely wondering about
mircea_popescu: aaand in other news, i just managed to link TWO DOZEN trilema articles from this latest one. i think that takes the cake.
mats: ugh, at a conf where a fed is pimping ‘trusona’, some biometric nonsense, and telling folks to shitcan passwords
a111: Logged on 2014-10-19 18:39 asciilifeform: my hypothesis re: biometrics is, imho, the only one proposed so far that has explanatory power for the fact that idiotically lame, e.g., fingerprint readers, nevertheless are happily deployed en masse by usg
mircea_popescu: mats hey, usg's been trying to shitcan the whole it security thing since day one.
mats: admitting to the worthlessness of fingerprints would result in twenty year judicial backlog of reviews
mircea_popescu: there is no manner available currently of runing physical-space law&order without the fingerprint construct.
mircea_popescu: moreover, if you took a year's worth of court practice of your choice, listed all the inferences made in a sort of mega-AST and then sorted this list by tenuousness measured how you will, the fingerprint construct wouldn't make any sort of top.
mircea_popescu: cannibalism, also "only because... and nobody entertains..."
mircea_popescu: marrying dudes, fucking children, whatever matter of conventional behaviour is a convention.
mircea_popescu: (i find it amusing how all the later day soviet saints have some shoe reference readily accessible to be retrieved by)
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6, diana_coman , trinque , ben_vulpes , et al : lemme know if you were able to follow the ffa tutorial ch1. <+asciilifeform> and got the expected result. << will take a look for sure.
mircea_popescu: you recall, guy was at the un, took shoe off banged table.
mircea_popescu: well yes. i took narrowly missing the 90s to mean he lived last days during khruschev's tenure
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
phf: asciilifeform: si, also i'll look for the ada source, pretty sure i have it
phf: i've been following the log
phf: though a bit of shame that annotation narrative is lost in vpatch
phf: i also saw your romanian dictionary vpatch, but i'm keeping it out for now, because at 2mb or whatever it is, it's putting some stress on gc
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diana_coman: aaand gprbuild 2011-4 apparently is strictly married with gnat4.6; gah
☟︎ jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
phf: mircea_popescu: it shouldn't be really, i just need to tune it
phf: but it does do a lot of tedious manipulation of lists of lines, so at >n lines it starts generating a lot of garbage
trinque: mircea_popescu: looks like I have some deposits to credit. one sec. your hanbot one did not go through.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: prepping for travel, will probably review on the plane
mircea_popescu: trinque while at it, can there be an acct history to check on this side ? or what's iyo the ideal approach here
trinque: that's coming, full transaction history
phf: yeah, it does at this point
phf: i've had color disabled in my editors for years now, though some color like comments and string sequences is somewhat handy
mircea_popescu: in other news, this footlong plastic calzador i vbought at flexi (local shoe store) is one hell of a buttpaddle.
phf: mircea_popescu: nope, it's a styling bug, which needs to be fixed, but i've been having hard time with it last time i tackled it (but i don't remember what was the issue, something related to tables and <pre>s)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform annotation style printouts (every line is followed by an empty line)
mircea_popescu: basically fits half as much on your screen, but leaves plenty of room for writing in things on paper.
phf: i can do other useful features, like
mircea_popescu: alf's browser (emacs) includes live-browsing extension, sends 4k px wide 100fps film of the page to his tape ticker.
phf: makes code more readable
mod6: where are the balls?
mircea_popescu: where he explains what madona means by "like a virgin"
mod6: dick dick dick dick dick dick
phf: mod6: i've added the feature you requested
mircea_popescu: i have this impression i was doing something but i can't remember what it was now.
shinohai: I feel happy to be a part of such a grand institution that goes out of the way to be so all-inclusive in the logs.
phf: well, it's also only proper for a long running lisp system to have a *cocks-and-balls* global variable somewhere that subtly affects the behavior
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform reading this backbreaker of an article i must say i r impresst. exactly what ffa needed, too.
mircea_popescu: shinohai wanna put his thing in r/code or w/e it is, r/crypto, r/weRgrownupsnao ?
mircea_popescu: i don't think the previous runaround was enough punishment for his sins.
mod6: If you to gentlemen would rather not update your blogs, please let me know and I'll post a comment at the bottom of each.
mod6: lol, asciilifeform ignore that. i already put a comment on your blog.
☟︎ mod6: yup, will leave the same comment on yours, Sir. Thanks.
mircea_popescu: you know it's not a great idea to leave live links to dead urls.
mircea_popescu recently went through his comment section, nulled out dead links. (you'd be surprised what survival rate of commenters pages is like)
mircea_popescu: i looked at thousands of once-there, now deceased sites. pretty depressing as an incidental, facebook made people measurably dumber.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-12-01 21:14 mircea_popescu: hey asciilifeform ! mp-wp has nice names for urls!
mod6: ben_vulpes: is there a comment approval process? I submitted the comment.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-01 21:24 mod6: lol, asciilifeform ignore that. i already put a comment on your blog.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-01 21:27 mircea_popescu: i looked at thousands of once-there, now deceased sites. pretty depressing as an incidental, facebook made people measurably dumber.
mircea_popescu: i am reading. so far, this is a major achievement, and quite fundamental at that.
mod6: I read the entire thing so far, and it looks great. I have droped the vpatch and sig into my V and pressed it out, which also worked great.
mircea_popescu: you are aware there exists no usable "learn to compute" item ANYWHERE ?
mod6: I don't have an ada at my disposal atm. So will do an entire test of the thing tonight and post results as I have them (probably on my site).
mircea_popescu: precisely because universities "became open" and "put online" their inept webcasts etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it will conveniently double as many things. i will add it to the topic link later today.
phf: also there's a somewhat useful, though non-standard css property "user-select" that lets you select only the code part of the page
mircea_popescu: this apple piece makes for fabulous companion reading.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that "older comments" thing is abominable.
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> mod6: released << awesome thanks!
trinque: heads up to all, I'll be traveling from about 2.5hrs from now until sunday night.
trinque: pls to send all withdrawal requests in now or wait til sun
trinque: mega congrats to asciilifeform on his first ffa post, will read soon.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> dja like ? << very nice post, indeed.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 19:30 mircea_popescu: "don't vote for x, he not only would confiscate our constanta base BUT IS VERY CORRUPT" sorta bs.
mircea_popescu: so what, they'll pretend they didn't get paid with tx in the blockchgain ?
mircea_popescu: um. so literally, they say pay x to y, you do, they go "lalala" ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's better to "sacrifice" self on the noble altar of high socialist ideals than to simply admit that can't make money and can't continue supporting losses.
mircea_popescu: ah so the idea basically is to tell the inexistent miner cartel not to mine txns they don't want ?
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, new car theft method : drink a bottle of coca-cola, screw the tap back on, stick it in between wheel and chassis on parked car, wait for owner to get in and try to leave. the bottle will sound, the muppet will get out of the car to see, at which point you can just leave with it.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( iirc some variant of this idiocy was in fact present in 0.3 ) << The one they use now did not exist till 0.9
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from the perspective of "we're trying to survive mp" it is perfectly understandable. miner fees per tx are rapidly growing to a size comparable to the "walmart one item cost", which is what bitpay & all are willy-nilly married to.
mircea_popescu: guy was a major... well, like bill gates, or khodorovsky, however you call the faux business men produced by governments. except in ro, so he's talking 1e7 rather than 1e10
☟︎ diana_coman: "Note that endianness is irrelevant, here and elsewhere in FFA" <- FINALLY! esp given my recent keccak-induced headaches on the topic, I am delighted to read this; will dig deeper into ffa ch1 over the weekend
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he has a point though. you need someone as doggedly determined as ceausescu to keep the thing afloat. economic blocs are a reality for what, 50 years now ? euro "common market" was not particularily DESIRED.
diana_coman: ofc; but idiotic keccac "reference" implementation goes about reading *bytes* although spec clearly talks of bits and at most of z-dimension long array of bytes and as a consequence madness necessarily ensues
diana_coman: as I said: my recent headaches on the topic made this absolutely pop out to me
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I sorted out some ada implementation and will post it; atm the struggle is more to figure out the "test vectors" for full sponge because of all this madness
TomServo: asciilifeform: 3 of what ? << 3 reasons to not leave myself voiced while I'm clumsily reading scrollback, I suppose.
TomServo: I can barely fit a bite in my mouth.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 17:12 mircea_popescu: and speaking of aids-en : isn't it a pity nobody's yet made a film out of gia carangi's life ? that chick was ACTUALLY a model, in the most proper of senses.
phf: edi weitz nuked all his lisp stuff, with a redirect to shithub. naturally if you want to look for documentation you have to go to ???
phf: must've been couple of days
ben_vulpes: why would an ancient lisp hacker give two shits re what the kids are doing?
phf: note that the redirect says "~most~ of the common lisp stuff is now on shithub"
phf: because for example his lispworks extension hacks are nowhere but archive.org at this point
phf: i believe the only correct solution at this point are terabyte backup drives with everything you ever touch, i suppose that's what asciilifeform's been doing for a while now
phf: well, scratch that, i'm just ranting. once you have the setup, it's a pretty smooth operation i suppose. i just don't want to bother with the whole backing up the internet thing
☟︎ phf: but that's in the "i just want to" territory, so tough.
mircea_popescu: TomServo i count that like i count microsoft windows offering. it's the anti-item. gia is all about fucking, not all about being a dork.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: That's about what I figured, but in case you were unaware.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think it's because computing class is postodctoral, whereas language class is highschool. so they learn the x:=a a:=b b:=x "trick" way before anyone even explains xor.
mircea_popescu: very much a case of "are you trying to learn how to fly the f-14 on the basis of having been a f-4 pilot, or are you trying to learn how to fly the f-14 because you loved f-14 flight sim on crapple as a teen ?"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "numerical methods for mechanical engineers", for one
ben_vulpes: also known as "enough matlab to make completely convincing fabrications"
phf: asciilifeform: i'm pretty sure i've not even seen xor mentioned at umd. i learned about it first and last at evening math school in moscow
mircea_popescu: "it is better for your jet fighter to resemble a stove than a wafer".
mircea_popescu discovered xor while trying to make z80 gfx as a 7-8-9yo.
phf: well, i was placed straight into 300 levels, but i recall 311 being fast and loose with actual teaching.
mircea_popescu: (thing had programmable characters, you could define your own 8x8 bitfield glyph, anyone recall ?
phf: maybe they taught it, but seeing a boolean map really translate into understanding of how you apply dat shit to bit twiddling etc.
mircea_popescu: also had direct-to-memory (via poke) chartable switching :D
phf: /seeing/does seeing/
phf: mircea_popescu: actually that's probably more correct, i have vague memory of doing xor in pascal maybe to do leet vga graphixxx
mircea_popescu: phf pascal was huge letdown for me, either didn't have or i didn't know how to get to the direct memory diddle.