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mircea_popescu: what, ustards are amazed that they applied the principles of 1950s
soviet feminism, got the results of 1970s
soviet society and WHOA WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED ?!?!?!
mircea_popescu: heh, fucktarded douchery.
soviet romania had female everythings, and they all beelined to home where they cooked for the family anyway.
pete_dushenski: i know this is just supposed to be 'normal
soviet retardation' but holy jeez does this get my goat
ben_vulpes: "especially notable as a joint production of ABC and
Soviet Russia"
mircea_popescu: sure. but it still works exactly like it worked in the other
soviet union.
mircea_popescu: ah. suppose you have 10k
soviet fuckholes, and 11k dudes want one. 10k dudes pay 10k per fuckhole each, and spend the time alternatively fucking the hole and laughing at the 1k.
mircea_popescu: i loved the
soviet system except for the parts where it deeply misunderstood elite.
ascii_field: by this logic, mircea_popescu oughta love the
soviet system
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how they imagine the pos digital projector can compete with a 1950s
soviet thing that went around the villages to show propaganda shorts.
pete_dushenski: "Construction began in 1987 but was halted in 1992 as North Korea entered a period of economic crisis after the fall of the
Soviet Union. After 1992 the building stood topped out, but without any windows or interior fittings. In 2008 construction resumed. In 2011, the exterior was completed. The opening of the hotel has been scheduled several times but postponed." << retardopedia to the rescue.
trinque: the puritanical thing and the
soviet thing are so similar
mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_> was this before the dupont campaign? << specific sino-
soviet relations point. 70s.
assbot: Logged on 04-10-2015 14:49:43; ascii_field: perhaps it was a case of '
soviet elephants are the biggest elephants'
ascii_field: perhaps it was a case of '
soviet elephants are the biggest elephants'
☟︎ ascii_field: 'Generally speaking, any authentic-looking towelhead who is able to intelligibly pronounce the word "democracy" has a chance to receive financing and weapons. But nobody has any control over where he will then go with these weapons. By the way,
Soviet intelligence services of the Brezhnev era had the same problem, latching onto any tribal chieftain who knew how to pronounce words like "Marx" and "Lenin."'
mircea_popescu: (i do not see any lack of continuity in
soviet degeneracy as compared to pre-
soviet, but then again that's just me._
phf: well, the way i see it, pre-soviets my family had a handful of hotels and titles with corresponding land, there's not much pie growing possible, it's either i who own them, or some bloke in the ru pipeline hierarchy, and as it stands it's not me. so i'm only parodying
soviet terminology with "impaired" talk
phf: imho the poetry of
soviet union was atrocious), so i see pre-stalin as last patrons
phf: but there were still wealthy patrons then, maybe the exchange was, well, you seem to be running out of money and we're running out of ideas, so let's all just laugh about it, and that'd be that. in my imagination anyway, pre-
soviet revolution is roughly when the last patrons were living out their last days
mircea_popescu: honestly, most everyone was more open minded than romanians throughout forever. most hardline soviets in
soviet union, would have hung nikita if possible after that thing. heck, ceausescu was trying to convince gorbacev of the errors of the past in 1987
phf: i've not seen a chinese export, until the first wave of chelnok came back with bag full of stuff from turkey (traded as i recently discovered for priceless pre-
soviet antiques for pennies)
pete_dushenski: i guarantee that there were private clubs in
soviet russia that had feather shuttles
mircea_popescu: phf wut srsly ? i take it YOUR
soviet state wasn't friends with china back then huh ?
phf: we actually did have fuse at some point. one of the kids had one of those "engineer" fathers, who, i remember gave us, of note,
soviet spectrum knockoff, rc plane engines of various sizes. he's also the one who converted part of forest glade into a "proper" badminton field, and then, with his wife as a partner, proceeded to regularly slaughter us in regular tournament matches
mircea_popescu: utside of the ~EARLY~ naive attempts at "a purely
soviet science". early, naive attempts eventually disowned by the politburo itself once russia was richj enough to not be frighteningly poor anymore.
mircea_popescu: the us is one, because it fails to be what it DECLARES it wants to be. so was the
soviet union.
pete_dushenski: not that anna karenina lived in a time of
soviet flats...
assbot: Logged on 17-09-2015 01:19:09; mircea_popescu: "the other residents of the drab
soviet prefab block of flats always envied ivan ivanovich, for this inept pretense of normalcy that he found himself on the receiving end of, even if in all fairness it was not really his fault."
mircea_popescu: "the other residents of the drab
soviet prefab block of flats always envied ivan ivanovich, for this inept pretense of normalcy that he found himself on the receiving end of, even if in all fairness it was not really his fault."
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it's like,
soviet citizen goes to paris, ahs a decent meal, then is like... "ima sneak these steaks back into leningrad"
mircea_popescu: there was an efim pavlovich slavsky working for the "medium machine building"
soviet nuke programme.
mircea_popescu: aha. what state has failed ? austro hungary failed.
soviet russia failed. soon the us will have failed.
assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 14:49:33; pete_dushenski: "Jews who were citizens of Germany’s allies lived or died according to certain general rules. Jews who maintained their prewar citizenship usually lived, and those who did not usually died…Jews from territories that changed hands were usually murdered. Jews almost never survived if they remained on territories where the
Soviet Union had been exercising power when German or Romanian forces arriv
pete_dushenski: "Jews who were citizens of Germany’s allies lived or died according to certain general rules. Jews who maintained their prewar citizenship usually lived, and those who did not usually died…Jews from territories that changed hands were usually murdered. Jews almost never survived if they remained on territories where the
Soviet Union had been exercising power when German or Romanian forces arrived…In all,
☟︎ BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Is
Soviet Eeyore also a sad donkey?
ascii_field: or
soviet z80 cpu of particular east german factory
assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 11:05:45; kakobrekla:
Soviet vaccum tubes < there is a whole industry dedicated to making fake ones.
assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 10:10:54; punkman: there's a few
soviet factories that still make decent lenses by the way
punkman: kakobrekla:
Soviet vaccum tubes < there is a whole industry dedicated to making fake ones. << they even bother to make fake capacitors
kakobrekla:
Soviet vaccum tubes < there is a whole industry dedicated to making fake ones.
☟︎ shinohai loves
Soviet vaccum tubes in his guitar amp.
punkman: there's a few
soviet factories that still make decent lenses by the way
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally it occurs to me - one theory that'd very well fit the
soviet ibm insanity would be, "the captive thief". ie, a guy so enamoured with the idea that "this calculator is hot (ie, stolen)" that he'll gladly expend $1500 to get a shitty pocket calculator, instead of $1100 to get a 10x as powerful desktop.
mircea_popescu would have enjoyed working with stalin on
soviet computing
mircea_popescu: the
soviet state was a slow, inept drain on the resources of an otherwise powerful, self reliant and resourceful population.
trinque: were these instances of people acting out common around the
soviet collapse?
mircea_popescu: can you say something more substantial of this than plain if third hand echos of 1970s
soviet postcards ?
mircea_popescu: on the practical side, they both WORKED, if one's tolerant with the concept.
soviet law maintained order in a larger thing than the us, better than the us managed.
phf: mircea_popescu: i think the idea was imprinted on me through
soviet imagery still, of a young pioneer politely and carefully observing an older pioneer performing some tricky task, soldering say. the implication was "this old person, knows better, so shut the fuck up and learn"
mircea_popescu: <mats>ISIS is an existential threat at this point in time << he has a point. isis would be the first state actually outside of us policy since
soviet russia.
mircea_popescu: certainly the source of the state in all its broken implementations to date, from nazi socialism and
soviet socialism all the way to obama and peron populisms.
phf: also explains
soviet education sleight of hand around the subject, hmm
phf: although there's a 1940s (?)
soviet movie, where an american girl flees to
soviet union, because she had a black baby, pursued by a capitalist who's trying to expose her. of course the predictable ending is everyone joins in a song "
soviet russia, where all are accepted"
phf: thinking about "degenerate children", the disconnect seems to be between what is advertised as a virtue in order to strengthen rule and what is genuinely required in order to remain in power. somehow eton managed to produce generations of british elite, while petergoth lyceum first class of twenty ended in the decembrist revolt (and that was 100 years before
soviet revolution)
phf: shalamov makes a convincing argument in a story about natalia klimova, one of the ladies that tried to assassinate stolypin, that the way for
soviet regime was paved by people who read stories like fefeleaga and decided that something needs to be done. it was already 20 years of terrorism by mostly educated aristocracy children, "from vegetarianism and love thy neighbor to throwing bombs"
ascii_field: i'd imagine it was in the curriculum because 'see how they lived in pre-
soviet era'
ascii_field:
soviet elephants are the biggest elephants (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: not like the us police implements the rules dreamed up byu the supreme
soviet of north korea
mircea_popescu: anyway, the faux-
soviet terminology is endearing. such wannabes.
mircea_popescu: they seem more akin to the counterfeit "collabolators" of
soviet era.
ascii_field: '
soviet elephants are the biggest elephantz!'
phf: there's a lot of russian jews working at NIH, self style
soviet dissidents, who now run various research departments same way as they were doing it back then. the common sentiment is basically "we've been had for a pair of chinese jeans"
ascii_field: if you are only concerned with the collapse, orlov's 'post-
soviet lessons' is notbad