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mod6: well, I think we should certainly encourage all to run a node. but yeah, maybe give it some time. my node is close, but 20k blocks behind currently.
mod6: I guess I'd like to see all of L1 at least have a trb node at least sync'ing by years end. That's a good goal.
mircea_popescu: i mean, a trb capable machine is somewhere in the 50-100 bux / month range, certainly an expense but not the end of the world.
mod6: Yah. My node is like ~$60/mo.
mod6: To all L1 who do not have a TRB node yet, please start this process now-ish, and let me know if you need a hand standing one up when ready.
whaack: so..does the USD monthly fee estimates imply it doesn't matter if you posses the metal? and if it doesn't matter, what are the hosting suggestions/guidelines?
mircea_popescu: lol @lafond "us military is called in to sort out what is left of america". here's the scoop : us military is <100k, most of which desk flyers, out of shape and combat-useless. ever since vietnam all the us army did was "consultancy", for locals willing to fight, where they could be found.
mircea_popescu: us army trying to "sort out america" would last sixteen hours. provided they start early in the morning.
mircea_popescu: whaack dun imply anything, you can surely put together older gear in your den or w/e.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wtf is his idea "us army vs us" is 1:100 odds ? it's 100:1 lol.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 23:56 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> and speaking of nodes and things,
https://coin.dance/nodes << never saw this one before, pretty cool blurb there on trb.
ben_vulpes:
http://archive.is/oxRxc << ...unions refuse "to accept responsibility for service disruptions that negatively affect the customers when we have no input on operational changes."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No idea what the concretes are beyond the admission that poverty is the condition of having a dysfunctional WoT
ben_vulpes: and recommendation ssd; although spinning rust not impossibru to get by with it ain't long for this world.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i mean, a trb capable machine is somewhere in the 50-100 bux / month range, certainly an expense but not the end of the world. << Negrodamus, i.e. 192.187.99.74 rents for less
BingoBoingo: <whaack> so..does the USD monthly fee estimates imply it doesn't matter if you posses the metal? and if it doesn't matter, what are the hosting suggestions/guidelines? << A node is not a wallet, doesn't hurt to spread a few around.
mircea_popescu has been staring at this log snippet incomprehendingly.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 23:56 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> and speaking of nodes and things,
https://coin.dance/nodes << never saw this one before, pretty cool blurb there on trb.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes is the contention union position is unreasonable ?
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: lol pretty sure i wrote that coin.dance blurb however many years back
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: gems in the linked piece in re bulldozer on tracks
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes evidently they're pissy about "he took our jerbs".
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: it was one of those "please to submit your version details" so... i did. can't recall if i actually clicked the "emergent consensus" button seriously or in jest, or if it was something that the hosts ticked, but it was definitely a test to see if they'd keep it up or not. looks like they have.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: it predates trb by a bit at least, ya.
BingoBoingo: I thought it popped up around ClassicCoin's proposal
mike_c: doh. trb node stalled out.
mike_c: busily filling my disk with:
mike_c: ERROR: ConnectInputs() : 650790574a mapTransactions prev not found be8d298e75
☟︎ mike_c: ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool() : ConnectInputs failed 650790574a
mike_c: oh nice. restart node, back off and running.
☟︎ mike_c: mircea_popescu: nudge on mpex withdrawal
ben_vulpes: mike_c: it is, after all, windows technology
mike_c: still? I guess boost qualifies as that
mike_c: how the fuck is litecoin still a thing
mike_c: or at least, as much as it ever was.
deedbot: yangwao voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: yangwao: who is your daddy and what does he do
ben_vulpes: today's american political wtf: "John Brown, of an anti-Trump group calling itself the Redneck Revolt, wore military fatigues and had an AK-47 rifle strapped to his chest as he and a half dozen others from the group stood about 30 feet behind the barricade for protesters. He said they were there to protect Trump opponents and stand up to fascism."
ben_vulpes: bringing a trb node up on whatever gentoo image scaleway has; 'pthread: command not found', log notes indicate patch necessary to cmake CheckIncludeFiles.cmake, investigation of which shows...no cmake on this box
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: lol that leo piece. "left is hell-bent on discrediting itself", or how did it go
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Remember that when a leftist group gets COINTELPRO'd that it's because USG wants the shit they are selling
ben_vulpes: but the error i hit was 'pthread: command not found', which...wat
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: hey if everything can't be free, maybe we can guilt whitey into giving us their houses and inheritances
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes amusingly, this dekulakization v2.0 very pussy-like.
ben_vulpes: you mean it wasn't all whining and pleases and you shoulds the first time through?
mircea_popescu: no, it was around ww2, they just stole all real estate.
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jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-23 04:37 mike_c: ERROR: ConnectInputs() : 650790574a mapTransactions prev not found be8d298e75
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-23 04:50 mike_c: oh nice. restart node, back off and running.
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whaack: Seems like the miners have an additional incentive to go back to btc after driving up the bch difficulty, since in addition to the 4x bch difficulty the btc difficulty will have dipped (however slightly) due to their absence while mining bch.
BingoBoingo: Even with BCH's "Emergency difficulty adjustment" (allegedly drops difficulty after X time without a block found)
whaack: well you don't get stuck without a block, but you get 2016 very quick blocks (that the turkey dollars club must have btc to prop up) and then 12h or w/e without a block
whaack: until whatever chest of btc they have is drained
BingoBoingo: How do you know if they have BTC to prop up? Wouldn't be the first time the insolvent lied.
whaack: I guess when the miners stop raising the difficulty
BingoBoingo: Anyways the "Turkey dollars" refers to the dollars that could buy BTC
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: BCH has a lulzy twist, a difficulty blow off valve for this contingency. Insures terminal yo-yo'ing
mircea_popescu: it was fully gm'd back when i wrote that article. such dun help.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, but it's lulzy to watch the mutilation victims rave about their "victories" as the chainsaw revs for another pass.
mircea_popescu: "Bitcoin itself has a 400% baked in maximum increase each period, but what practical difference does it make ? Force the attacker to keep hashing for an extra 8 or so hours ? Big whoop, what's eight hours buy you ?
mircea_popescu: Suppose you recalibrate difficulty each block instead. Big whoop, so attacker drives your difficulty up 100x and now you only have to mine six days for negative returns instead of two years. So what ? You're still underwater, and once you recover he can still do it again."
mircea_popescu: aanyway. yes, it's a fine manner to repatriate actual wealth (ie, btc) from the fucktards who traded their wives/daughters for money they shouldn'tr have had in the first place.
mircea_popescu: whaack oh wait, you mean the diff on ~main~ chain gets reduced, because this is an early stage delusion and the fucktards numerous/heavy enough. yes, yes, you're exactly right!
whaack: I just don't see how footnote 2 mentions the point of the btc difficulty decreasing while the miners are away from the main chain, even if it does allude to it by showing that holding the btc miner for an extended period of time doesn't help (b.c. of the fact that while the miners are away from the main chain their difficulty is decreasing)
whaack: yeah, suppose they held half the miners for 4 weeks, they'd then have to double their payout for the next cycle to match the btc mining offer since the difficulty will have halved (not even including the increase in the altcoin chain)
trinque: hm, several minutes of lag from me to freenode atm. mitm dept didn't pay their aws bill?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: no you don't understand, they have an ad-hoc, informally specified, bug ridden reimplementation of microsoft access. XKEYSCORE!!!!
mircea_popescu laughed ass off @usg for the first time when saw that these days equiv of manhattan project, "general + all the zeks that can be found" came to ~same as romanian computer club windows reimplementation.
mircea_popescu: in fact the utter technological failure of that "warehouse the size of ny" was a major inspiration for teh republic.
mircea_popescu: "holy shit they built ai capable of doing job of corps of competent agents"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dun give a shit what they';re shooting for.
mircea_popescu: sour grape general, "oh we weren't aiming to conquer leningrad, we were just here for a stroll"
mircea_popescu: this is more of the same delusion of specialness, "oh, it is my option whether i join trilema and i can set my own goals". in your dreams, and there only.
mircea_popescu: the goals are the goals, and retrospectively it becomes obvious if you found the goals or fumbled like idiot.
mircea_popescu: and thjere's no "that's how i feel blue squares should look on the wall" defense. hence the popularity of the pleb misstatement of "art".
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 20:17 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-07#1639964 << one of the (~the~ ?) advantage of tmsr work for intelligent folk is that there isn't a braindamaged/choiceless manager in the loop going "i know it's stupid but it must be done".
mircea_popescu: myeah. if you're born to be a hooker and the year is 1982, the vegas strip awaits. no ifs butts or taters. it dun matter if you dreamed of being a psychologist or a milliner as a little girl, either, that's what hobbies are for.
mircea_popescu: and the reason we dun wanna tell you what to do is precisely that the identification of these things is only easy in retrospect, but hard in the moment, and there's no worse sadness than following the wrong goal for THIS kind of wrong reason -- that the wrong person told you the wrong things.
mircea_popescu: but no more. certainly not an excuse to assfuck your own brain.
deedbot: ppsk voiced for 30 minutes.
ppsk: just wanted to say I've really enjoyed reading your blog, i can't remember how i first stumbled across it but its been one of the better collection of writings on the internet
ppsk: by the way, does "if you go on a bitcoin fork, irrespective of which scammer proposes it, you will lose your bitcoins" still apply?
ppsk: I was surprised you hadn't written something regarding the whole bitcoin cash debacle
ppsk: it seems to be a significant point of contention in the realm of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: random scam designed to lighten the pockets of wediditreddit fucktards.
ppsk: what do you think about monero?
ppsk: thanks, thats handy
ppsk: you spend a lot of time in latin america Mircea, or otherwise live there?
ppsk: whats the best country in that region, in your experience
ppsk: Ive seriously considered the universal plan for wealth, I was thinking central or south america is a good place to start over
mircea_popescu: ah, people swear by costa rica. abundant, cheap hookers and nice weather.
ppsk: easy TEFL program too from what I hear, makes getting in and staying in a lot easier
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ppsk: no, I'm rather new to all this
mircea_popescu: anyway, the first time i was here, bout 15 years ago, i came in on a tourist visa (with the idea of staying for a coupla weeks), ended up staying three years.
mircea_popescu: they fined me like 17 bucks on exit and that was the sum total of inconvenience.
ppsk: lol, i doubt you would get away with that these days. But then, maybe?
whaack: ppsk from my research in the matter apparently CR has a 90 day rule for most gringos...wherein you just have to step out of the country (for an hour) every 90 days. so you can do a Panama or Nicaragua day trip and get your passport stamped and come right back. Apparently you can get banned from returning to CR for 1-2 years now if you leave having stayed more than 90 days.
mircea_popescu: if you're not dirt poor you can apply for residency for being rich.
mircea_popescu: must prove 30k/year income for at least two years. so you know, buy a bond or w/e.
mircea_popescu: the amusing part being that the cap for public employees compensation is 4.2mn colones /month (about 10k/year)
mircea_popescu: no, i mean, people being paid by costa rican government may not earn in excess of
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 4200000 / 585 * 12 = 86153.84615384616
mircea_popescu: me failing math. their cap is 86k/yr not 8600 as i thought, nm
mircea_popescu: anyway. yeah, if you show them you own a 1mn bond paying 3% you're good.
mircea_popescu: as to the catch -- well for eg, they got obamacare here. if you're a resident you must enroll. and so on.
mircea_popescu: ie, why the fuck would you pay 3x what they pay to be part of their shithole medicare, when 100% of thew time you'll use the private hospitals.
BingoBoingo: So much old trilema to read and link as Soviet America collapses
mod6: mircea_popescu: need some help when you're around.
mod6: so it's been suggested that we change 'trusted-nodes' to 'advertised republican nodes', which is fine with me. but the file that these live in is called 'trusted-nodes.html'. Since this is now linked in trilema 'how-to-participate', should we do a redirect to a new file, or just change the filename, or just change its contents?