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mircea_popescu: so then all strings S must incluide the antecedent hash. and in this definition string S = foo.txt ; nothing else.
asciilifeform: and i do not see any need for magical strings in comments.
asciilifeform: the strings folx willingly put themselves in the company of irigaray et al when they explicitly pissed on parsimony and physical testability.
mircea_popescu: strings)
Framedragger: (note, some of those version strings contain OS string, some of them don't; these TXTs store versionstrings-as-they-were-seen, without any ssh-server/OS version separation.)
mircea_popescu: jurov pity, because i'd have asked for "all strings are unicode strings". should have fixed it right and proper.
asciilifeform: trinque: no good, at least not as such, they are stored as strings of decimal digits.
mircea_popescu: "but mp, it was simple when i made it" "yes, if i define three letter strings as various pieces of literature, i'll be able to "write" whole books by saying agafufu. so what of it."
jurov: MIME avoids this by generating unique magic strings as delimiters after the fact. but you don't want to, i guess.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 15:38 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the things to scan, that very often are found: 80 (http), 443 (ssl), and if either found, the page; if ssl -- the cert id strings (see l0gz for how) , and lastly, ftp (yes, believe or now) and telnet greetings.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the things to scan, that very often are found: 80 (http), 443 (ssl), and if either found, the page; if ssl -- the cert id strings (see l0gz for how) , and lastly, ftp (yes, believe or now) and telnet greetings. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "o look, mp often signs 85 kb strings of random letters"
mircea_popescu: the very evident "new york times, washington / huffington post etc do not produce strings worth more per megabyte than any other markov process" is elided in favour of "we shall label this failure of ours in terms of an external phenomenon and posture really convincingly about it". really, is it "being investigated" ? who the fuck is the agent in that agentless phrase and who the fuck's gonna supply the army.
mircea_popescu: a similar situation to how compression works great on literature and poorly on (proper) random strings.
gabriel_laddel: strings
gabriel_laddel: The way this will work: an invite-only IRC channel with a +v voice model is used to send s-expression strings between networked CLIM applications.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-14 12:27 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-14#1566990 << there is no such thing as "tld". there's just strings. if you query r-dns for "fucksgoats" you get ip for "fucksgoats". if you query for "hurrdurr.fuckgoats" you get ip for "hurrdurr.fucksgoats". if you query for "Pwgaf,H6X/LJ8yt..OLjoNn+kyfFsOG5a?FpPbf!uxOS6" you get ip for "Pwgaf,H6X/LJ8yt..OLjoNn+kyfFsOG5a?FpPbf!uxOS6".
mircea_popescu: at first, gossipd replaces the current "talk to servers to admin your strings" which happens, essentially, over substitute-email and http-sessions.
mircea_popescu: "but that part wouldn't be the first to relate. the part that'd first to relate is that you gotta talk to these servers to admin your strings"
mircea_popescu: people aren't strings.
mircea_popescu: i suppose, but that part wouldn't be the first to relate. the part that'd first to relate is that you gotta talk to these servers to admin your strings. and well... talk over... what.
Framedragger: (i mean, there could be caching servers, but they'd have to have the same up to date map of all strings to IPs.)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-14#1566990 << there is no such thing as "tld". there's just strings. if you query r-dns for "fucksgoats" you get ip for "fucksgoats". if you query for "hurrdurr.fuckgoats" you get ip for "hurrdurr.fucksgoats". if you query for "Pwgaf,H6X/LJ8yt..OLjoNn+kyfFsOG5a?FpPbf!uxOS6" you get ip for "Pwgaf,H6X/LJ8yt..OLjoNn+kyfFsOG5a?FpPbf!uxOS6". ☝︎☟︎
jurov: strings are fine, but the characters. noone knows what character is.
BingoBoingo glad satoshi called it the wallet and not the purse. Imagines "How to cut the purse strings" on Trilema.
asciilifeform: cut resulting in smallest walletron: wallet only stores privkeys and signs strings with'em.
adlai: the only namespace is strings .bitcoin/blocks/*
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/10/the-average-scam-band/ << Pull Your Own Strings - The Average Scam Band
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/10/bitcoin-four-years-in/ << Pull Your Own Strings - Bitcoin – Four Years In
trinque: so when I want to "join" across all this data I get to munge strings like some barbarian
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/10/thug-motiviation-101-applied/ << Pull Your Own Strings - Thug Motiviation 101 Applied
asciilifeform: kmalkki: also interestingly, the turdlets are supposedly arm-compatible, and - to naked eye, seeing strings - plainly unciphered, but they do not appear to disassemble cleanly as either big- or little-endian arm.
jurov: PeterL has strings, not integers anyway
ben_vulpes: in other open sores chuckles "The encoded strings in the tests were created with Andresen's unmodified code, so they are correct. Probably."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but it is not bash's fault that unix uses null-term strings.
asciilifeform: also exemplary retardation. yeeeeh let's have null-terminated strings!111 we Luuuuuv doing O(N) length calculation, and random breakage !
mircea_popescu: (in this particular case, it's a case of "according to the empire worldview, the correct crypto would be based on creating privkeys out of public strings, with a dab of emperor's own pubes" "this may not exist ; here's the proof")
asciilifeform: whole ~point~ of 'relay signed strings' is that you can start releasing balloons, etc.
phf: and it's definitely ~not~ the case of spreading works. python made a very right and sane distinction between strings and bytes. and the interaction of the two requires awareness. the mistake that they made is to make the conversion implicit, which lets people pretend like underlying problems don't exist, and when it breaks ~like it should~ blame it on python
mircea_popescu: phf Framedragger anyone else with suspect load - may be worth your time to go through logs for those strings, may illuminate vulnerabilities.
asciilifeform: the (promised) thing in libreboot was 'just same as coreboot but without any magic strings from chip vendors'
asciilifeform: supposing your strings are reasonably short, gabriel_laddel .
mircea_popescu: "there are 9 4096 bit strings for any given privkey to which you can not encrypt or decrypt."
adlai is unfamiliar, digs, finds "When a shlimazl goes dancing, the musicians' strings break"... or maybe asciilifeform meant "girl who can't dance says music sucks"?
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/09/coppin-louie-loafers-just-to-thug-in-em/ << Pull Your Own Strings - Coppin Louie Loafers Just to Thug in Em
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/08/metcalfes-lie/ << Pull Your Own Strings - Metcalfe’s Lie
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/07/slockit-enables-scamming/ << Pull Your Own Strings - Slockit Enables Scamming
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/07/a-steeming-bubble/ << Pull Your Own Strings - A Steeming Bubble
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/07/closing-the-loop/ << Pull Your Own Strings - Closing the Loop
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/07/consumers-revolt/ << Pull Your Own Strings - Consumers Revolt
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/07/mass-adoption-as-a-ponzi-scheme/ << Pull Your Own Strings - Mass Adoption as a Ponzi Scheme
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/06/outer-heaven/ << Pull Your Own Strings - Outer Heaven
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/06/bitcoin-wont-hardfork-any-time-soon/ << Pull Your Own Strings - Bitcoin Won’t Hardfork Any Time Soon
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/06/the-coinbase-implosion-timer/ << Pull Your Own Strings - The Coinbase Implosion Timer
deedbot: http://thestringpuller.com/2016/06/bitcoin-in-wakanda/ << Pull Your Own Strings - Bitcoin in Wakanda
asciilifeform: sooo, roxelana running the empire by pulling on her muppet's strings, this is 'winnerdom' ?
mircea_popescu: mno. proof can be had on meaningful representations. not on random strings.
PeterL: why not just use strings of ints, it's the same thing, right?
jurov: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-05#1515605 no, crystalspace just makes extracting useful parts of code difficult because it is monolithic framework used for everything - strings, events, drawing, network de/serialization,... ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "retroactively changes the meaning of text". what fucking text ? strings including "emoji" ipso facto carry no meaning.
mircea_popescu: somehow the dot became so deeply "concat strings" that i'd first check "who the fuck is regexping this" perhaps ; but it'd never occur to me to say "you know what - it saw a dot it's now looking at a class"
lru: a.b is asking for the 'b' property in the object a, which is undefined (the type, not the string), but since types can be automatically converted, and you're working with strings, the undefined type may have been turned into a string depending on use
mircea_popescu: in other holy shit javascript, a.b where a, b are strings results in the STRING "undefined" ; whereas a.concat(b) results in a string that's a followed by b.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile : i want a tag to turn numbers into images ; which i arbitrarily call svg ; and i want a tag to turn strings into scientific notation (which does not JUST mean math, i want chemistry also.)
asciilifeform: and numerous other strings similarly encrudded in the theme.
asciilifeform: 'replace asciilifeform's comp with 10,000 bots' != 'replace horse with car.' but == 'replace horse with 500kg of insect on strings'
Corsets: May I ask why we're writing ID strings on our chests?
thestringpuller: i love pulling the machine's strings.
mircea_popescu: but yeah, this is a pretty good model. "natural language is just like a computer language that had no // or quotations." "so how do i know magic strings, and comments, from code ?" "your mother."
BingoBoingo: Because you can quarentine nonsense as isolated strings and lol about them. If you can't do that they'd eventually start making you stupid.
asciilifeform: realize, if i strongly suspect that strings s1 and s2 are identical, i'ma diff'em.
asciilifeform: btw i can hardly wait for 'compiler is kyriarchy, all strings are equally valid program'
asciilifeform: 'Extract-key-from-key is defined in section 6.27.7 of PKCS#11 standard version 2.30. It may as well have been renamed “extract-substring” as the analog of standard operation on strings. This derivation scheme creates a new key by taking a contiguous sequence of bits at desired offset and length from an existing key.' << holy FUCK
mircea_popescu: it's not related with "strings" other than, finally universally accepted proof they're nonsense.
asciilifeform: and that 'strings' are bunkum, and until the last 'strings' proponent is purged, there is no physics.
mircea_popescu: https://oeis.org/A105165 << turns out it's actually pretty famous. famous enough for its own strings in the oeis.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-16 20:46 ben_vulpes: haven't we had this thread before, of that the network is not paricularly enumerable, and with the malleability of version strings that counting them is somewhat less than pointless?
ben_vulpes: haven't we had this thread before, of that the network is not paricularly enumerable, and with the malleability of version strings that counting them is somewhat less than pointless? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: can't be verified, of course, because he publishes some random strings.
ascii_butugychag: 'ASN1 Strings that are over 1024 bytes can cause an overread in applications
mircea_popescu: there is absolutely no reason, nor can there be any reason, c compiler can't take two strings, such as the decameron and the collected works of shakespeare, and multiply them together, as fucking numbers, and spit out the result. none.
mircea_popescu: which is how longhand multiplication even fucking works, on the basis of strings-and-regexp pretty much.
mircea_popescu: fuck, you can implement infinitedigit math in STRINGS
adlai: includes proper seppuku, ie, privkey cleartext in `strings -n 20 .bitcoin/etc`
phf: but yeah, it greps by space separated words, greps by quoted strings (\" escape works) and recognizes from:foo, which composes. i.e. from:foo from:bar baz " foo bar " finds log entries from foo OR bar that contain both "baz" and " foo bar "
asciilifeform: the springs, would you believe, sound like shamisen strings when pressed.
adlai tries calculating how much tighter to wind the five remaining strings to compensate for the snapped e
asciilifeform: redefining 4 worked as a strings parser trick
mircea_popescu: davout> tl;dr: FROM_UNIXTIME() yields localized strings, not GMT <<< time implementation is dumb. see also
davout: tl;dr: FROM_UNIXTIME() yields localized strings, not GMT
mircea_popescu: so you can store things in strings that aren't characters
mircea_popescu: or otherwise : why the fuck would i use anything but strings if the only way to access elements is through a n-th reference.
mircea_popescu: to force a comparison, the difference between a republic and all and sundry other group organizing patters is that the republic is a complete algebra (ie, elements, defined operations) whereas the rest is (necessarily, and provably so) just a dictionary (ie, list, array) of strings.
mircea_popescu: phf think on just one thing : i also train women to be human. oft they get a task to talk to random people. they NEVER get a fucking task to memorize and recite random strings.
mircea_popescu: davout you pm deedbot with a list of strings which it retains for the day, prints a cloud somewhere, one can click items in cloud to get list of days so tagged
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417306 << i always thought that's one of the better gems of lolcomedy in that thing. you see, it's so fucking abstract, it calls the things to get the list of messages, hurr durr. no magic strings here, we just do calls!!11 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: if i take a buffer, split it up in words, and give you some and him some, and you convert them to strings and give them back, i must be able to reconsturct the original buffer without possibility of error.
phf: i've been mulling over that question with logs. fwiw, entire log can be kept in memory for analysis, annotation, whatever, 180mb as utf-8 byte arrays. with unicode strings takes up twice the memory on 16-bit cmucl, and ~~4 times on 32-bit sbcl. i'm not yet convinced that transcoding everything you get into string and then transcoding it back to a bytearray onto the wire is the best strategy ☟︎
phf: tinyscheme can't read strings longer then #define STRBUFFSIZE 256, hmm
asciilifeform: (and that they were, hence, not crafted specifically to bulldoze whatever magical pattern he put in his strings)