punkman: ascii_butugychag: i'll pass. << weren't you after blobless workstation with recent cpu?
☟︎ punkman: Tyan has some boards for it
mats: weather beaten features
BingoBoingo: Modded +4 Interesting with "The block cipher is a proof of work function which takes some effort to compute."
BingoBoingo: But I'm glad MP no longer can disbelieve the one on the right being 21 because "No way she's 21, that isn't enough time to eat so much"
mircea_popescu: holy shit put soup instead of sha i nthe pow, see people cry.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that part is easy : a) you cook a bunch of slop ; b) you catch the sow and chain her down ; c) you insert one tube in ass and another tube in mouth (should be same size, orientation indifferent) and then you d) pour.
BingoBoingo: The scary thing is she dreams of someone doing that to her
mircea_popescu: mats i guess that's right, surfer chicks do end up looking 514 by the time they're out of college.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the internet is but a series of tubes. see c) above.
mircea_popescu: "Behold, Mr Mackey, riding a horse so naturally it makes your dick hard. And there be bitches, oh yes." << i wonder what knowitall derp'd do if he actually knew what he's talking about.
BingoBoingo: brb, stepping away from the anti-social media
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mircea_popescu: "256 bits has sufficient entropy to render any brute force attack, and even severe weakening (e.g. sq root effort attacks) utterly infeasible." << dude where the fuck do they come from.
mircea_popescu: what colors are your bits, bitch! and how much entropy is there in this dword ?
mircea_popescu: "Anyhow, it would be a bunch of work for 10 BTC. Hardly worth anyone's time, given this bozo is gonna take all the credit, you probably don't even get fame nor fortune..." << jesus almighty. this is why it's fucking public, and lordship and all that, right ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose the fiat world has burned these poor people so consistently (see the plouffe thing recently discussed, see the notorious wolfram thing etc) it's just the default expectation. and then ~bitcoin~ is the scam.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 00:34:19; punkman: ascii_butugychag: i'll pass. << weren't you after blobless workstation with recent cpu?
mircea_popescu: and besides, i'm not asking them to solve it, i'm just saying, should you have a solution...
mircea_popescu: believe it or not, sifting all the incoming email produced some nuggets.
mircea_popescu: actually the 4 color map thing is in my head just as good if not better than knapsack
☟︎ mircea_popescu: moreover, it's sadly unclear what the task even is. yes you can rigurously define assumptions ; yes you can rigurously prove safety.
mircea_popescu: then you invalidate the assumptions in practice without realising and heuristics eats your lunch.
mircea_popescu: math is nice and good, but a method or mechanism through which to prove the corectness of implementation in the sense contemplated here is not yet seen and altogether may be an impossibility.
mircea_popescu: and when i say "not yet seen" i mean that in the strongest sense. not seen ONCE. fucking darwinism is not PROVEDLY correct.
mircea_popescu: it is provedly consistent (what'd be a "mathematical corectness" and empirically applicable with great predictive power. that's... not it.)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: the slashdot thing is raw sewage. srsly i 'want my five minutes back' plox. << Ask gasenwagen driver for a cigarette when the time comes
BingoBoingo: In other news that time you personally get called a lunatic by Luke-Jr and not just a lunatic, but the only lunatic whose opinon doesn't matter.
https://archive.is/ChHAo BingoBoingo: Does anyone know if there's a prize for that
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BingoBoingo: I have no idea when I'm going to stop glowing about recieving special contempt from Luke-Jr
Luke-Jr: wait, that's you? I thought it was mircea_popescu
BingoBoingo: No it's Mircea doesn't have time to write that much for Qntra.
BingoBoingo: !down Luke-Jr Before you take my glow away
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell Luke-Jr Fuck yourself for editing that reddit comment and taking my glow away. I want you to go to the grave of blessed Mary mother of Jesus and very deeply and profoundly fuck yourself.
BingoBoingo: 17 months of Qntra, with 5 of them at the helm... I though I hit a significant milestone. Then it turns out that either I was honestly confused for Mircea Popescu or just maybe... Luke-Jr just tried to steal that milestone because he has so much contempt for me he was compelled to steal my satisfaction.
mircea_popescu: "For the purposes of this vexatious litigation decision what is important is whether or not delivering the September 25, 2015 documents to the Alberta Court of Queen’s Bench satisfies the actus reus and mens rea requirements of Criminal Code, s 423.1. On a balance of probabilities, I conclude that it does."
mircea_popescu: epic. civil procedure applied to criminal code adjudications.
mircea_popescu: " The fact that this Court would never have entered Boisjoli’s materials as a default judgment that could then be enforced by ‘conventional’ means is immaterial. Criminal Code, s 24(1) is explicit that the fact an attempt to commit an offence could not succeed is irrelevant to whether or not that offence was attempted:
mircea_popescu: 24.(1) Every one who, having an intent to commit an offence, does or omits to do anything for the purpose of carrying out the intention is guilty of an attempt to commit the offence whether or not it was possible under the circumstances to commit the offence."
mircea_popescu: "[112] I make the above order on an interim basis effective immediately. In keeping with the procedure adopted in R v Fearn, at para 54, Chutskoff v Bonora, at para 138, and Lymer (Re), 2014 ABQB 696 (CanLII) at para 58, final operation of this Order is stayed for 30 days until November 6, 2015 to allow the Minister of Justice and Solicitor General to make submissions to change or vary this order, per Judicature A
mircea_popescu: ct, s 23.1(3), should the Minister of Justice and Attorney General wish to do so within that period of time. Absent any submissions this order will become final on November 6, 2015." << the best part is that the dude spent a while harping about how bullshit foisted agreements are bullshit ; then went on to do EXACTLY the same ; and all the while fails to understand wtf exactly impels the guy to behave thusly.
mircea_popescu: doh. he doesn't think you're special. because you're all equals and whatnot. what's so hard to grasp ?
mircea_popescu: gee whiz, i wonder where plaintif caught on this idea that "unless you so and so in 30 days you so and so"
mircea_popescu: then the bit where he attacks the notary is particularly precious.
mircea_popescu: "[116] I have previously concluded, on a balance of probabilities, that these documents were intended to illegally assert a debt against the Officer and Alberta, and that the attempt to file the documents Powell notarized is an indictable criminal offense. Powell is obviously in breach of the Code of Conduct."
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is the notary to know what you'll find when the stuff he notarizes butthurts your preferred coloring of reality ?
mircea_popescu: bonus points for the item two paragraphs supra, where the judge nigh-on admits that he tried to track down the guy and have a little behind the scenes compact with him. sadly he wasn't also a laywer. this of course is deeply different from "criminal scheme to bla bla".
mircea_popescu fucking loves reading all these SOPS rulings, the beatings the justice system applies to itself trying to fight reddit-level crazies is delightful.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: bonus points to where j d rooke got so hot and bothered under the collar he originally made a ruling so broken (through disallowing appeal improperly) he had to come in with a "corrigendum", which apparently is how it works in canada.
mircea_popescu: in every jurisdiction i heard of clerical errors can be corrected by order, unless it touches to the substance. but again, canada, who knows.
mircea_popescu: "We will make a spec for a perfectly standardized, $2500, cryogenically-cooled
mircea_popescu: monster desktop PC. Everybody in the developed world will buy one over the next
mircea_popescu: his point re heat is actually quite sound. why the fuck do i have a cpu instead of a motherboard sized asic thing ?
punkman: because 300mm wafer slice is expensive?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: computers should come on fucking fabric already, i go to the shop buy 8 meters of opteron.
☟︎ punkman: that's more reasonable yes
punkman: "the display will be 4K (and of course 640x480 16 color)" heh
☟︎ punkman: "We do not want UTF, just 8-bit characters. Somebody needs to choose new 8-bit ASCII characters for 128-255, since we do not want text graphic symbols. We want Russian, Greek or Hebrew alphabets, perhaps? ... Japan, China and Korea should switch-over to alphabets. Maybe, the United States will change to metric, out of good will."
danielpbarron: >> God said Linux's Wine should replace Windows. << of course he never cites chapter and verse on any of these "God said"s
punkman: he cites a lot of verses, but also has some kind of bible-markov-chain that says new things
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fluffypony: danielpbarron: duh, he's quoting 1 Terry 7:38
fluffypony: "And in those days god spake unto Terry. And he said unto him: 'Terry', for that was name. And he proceeded to say: 'Terry, we need to talk about Windows.'"
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assbot: GitHub - Whonix/gpg-bash-lib: gpg file verification bash library, addresses comprehensive threat model, that covers file name tampering, indefinite freeze, rollback, endless data attacks, etc. ... (
http://bit.ly/1USQMAo )
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BingoBoingo: From the mines: Tinder has blocked one New Jersey 23-year-old, Robyn Gedrich, from using the app after several users reported her for spamming them with the same request: “Do you feel the bern? Please text WORK to 82623 for me. Thanks!” She sent that message to dozens of matches each day for two weeks straight.
BingoBoingo: In other marginal news: Docker, employer of the late Debian Founder, has now hired the Alpine Linux founder and is moving all their images to that. Might be relevant if anyone was looking at that musl based distro
BingoBoingo: punkman: Watson's not old enough. IBM's Deep Blue and Deep Though aren't quite old enough yet.
BingoBoingo: Gotta be 35, so ChipTest will be old enough for the 2020 elections
BingoBoingo: Now U of Illinois's Plato could run if it didn't die in 2006. Born in 1960 so 11 years older than Rubio.
BingoBoingo: "The decision comes as the NCAA continues to investigate Katina Powell’s claims that she and other escorts were paid thousands of dollars and given game tickets by former basketball staffer Andre McGee in exchange for dancing for and having sex with U of L players and recruits from 2010-14. The NCAA could still levy further sanctions on U of L in addition to the self-imposed penalty, but university president James Ramsey is hope
☟︎ BingoBoingo: ful that the postseason ban will reduce the harshness of any potential punishment in the future."
pete_d_out: so catching up : mp opened a nifty contest, intel affirmed the sensibility of the current blocksize, mccollarbone is on "pace" to win the bitbet, and my qntra about technology and politics, if admittedly not about bitcoin, was a bit long-winded. did i miss anything else ?
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 06:15:26; *: mircea_popescu fucking loves reading all these SOPS rulings, the beatings the justice system applies to itself trying to fight reddit-level crazies is delightful.
BingoBoingo: pete_d_out: When you're authed we'll have the discussion to guide the sense of humor in the future that changes everything
BingoBoingo: pete_d_out: Well McCollarbone is only on pace if he keeps up the pace set in the sample size of two games he has after returning so far.
assbot: BitBet - Connor McDavid will live up to the hype :: 0.45 B (3%) on Yes, 12.72 B (97%) on No | closed 6 days 13 hours ago ... (
http://bit.ly/20NDbOo )
BingoBoingo: It's not so ridiculous. He's just gotta average a bit over two point per game for the rest of the season.
pete_d_out: BingoBoingo that's not ridiculous like gavin averaging 100 btc per annum salary for the rest of his days, just as he did when vessenes scam was peaking, isn't ridiculous
pete_d_out: in the same way and for the same reasons
BingoBoingo: Well, the bet is if he lives up to the hype. Doing that for a career? Ridiculous. For 29-30 games perfectly possible if improbable as reflected by the BitBet odds
BingoBoingo: This one seems to be just about as improbably as the money on BitBet demonstrates, and I'm really liking the money I put on "Yes" before he got injured.
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 21:59:36; ascii_butugychag: remember the 'desk elephant' ?
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 20:43:37; ascii_butugychag: or the one who came by my old office disguised as 'friendly neighbour, retired blahblahblah'
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 20:20:17; ascii_butugychag: 'fuck you, my public key is m * the next mersenne prime'
pete_d_out: might cause a bit of lag in communication, making 'practical blockchain telegraphy' look zippy, but hey, if it's important enough..
pete_d_out: "Moreover, employers may feel they can lowball applicants because they believe there is still a surplus of qualified candidates.
☟︎☟︎☟︎ pete_d_out: “Workers are still a little discounted” in most fields, said Linda Barrington, executive director of the Institute for Compensation Studies at Cornell University’s ILR School. “Employers won’t pay what the last person in the job was paid because labor is now on sale.”" << ahh, i can taste the sweet butthurt tears of bahamas and his dream of a fully employed economy. "no one could've predicted" eh ?
BingoBoingo: If AMD can survive its debt for 5-7 years, they'll be in a pretty sweet place for competing with Intel.
pete_d_out: " In the latest move, AMD unveiled its FirePro S-Series GPUs that include the company's hardware-virtualization GPU architecture, Multiuser GPU (MxGPU). The technology is aimed at such segments as virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI), remote workstations, cloud gaming and cloud computing." << is cloud gaming a thing now ? i thought it was all ipad gaming.
☟︎ pete_d_out: BingoBoingo sorta like which of medusa's heads "wins" at this point
BingoBoingo: Cloud gaming is how they suppose they will feed iPads 3D graphics
☟︎ pete_d_out: as if the nonexistent demand for counterstrike on an ipad is such a market driver
BingoBoingo: I dunno that customers actually want it. More a buzzword collision that attracts dumb money.
BingoBoingo: From people who don't grok the whole network latency deal.
pete_d_out: like "social media synergy" or "the uber of plasticine houses"
BingoBoingo: Well consider what AMD did with their first generation "Bobcat" fusion chips. Fallout 3 was a bit old when those came out, but when the Bobcats were introduce there was no other way to play fallout 3 in the same power consumption envelope.
BingoBoingo: Gotta stamp out the latency wherever it lives
BingoBoingo waits for Bitcoin node on SSD controller chip tutorial
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pete_d_out: speaking of power consumption and moore's law, i hadn't realised that intel had claimed that the ~pentium 4~ would reach 10 ghz, nor that they actually manufactured the p4 at 3.8 ghz... in 2008. the only reason higher power outputs weren't produced en masse was that, apparently, the chips were already consuming 130w at 3.8 ghz and power consumption scaled linearly from there.
☟︎ pete_d_out: fuck, i'd totally run a 10 ghz pentium. not like i pay for leccy.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: pete_d_out: 5gHz overclocks aren't that new
pete_d_out imagines unplugging 220v stove to run p4 beastputer
pete_d_out: BingoBoingo that's exactly moore's problem
BingoBoingo: If going 2008 vintage might as well make sure you get ECC and x64 that works with everything on the board
pete_d_out: "oh, but we added more cores so it feeeeels faster"
BingoBoingo: Well more core makes sense on 1 level, places to put other shit. It's what buying opteron fabric by the yard would be based on
pete_d_out: well, my clock's running out. i'll check back in soon :)
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assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 06:15:26; *: mircea_popescu fucking loves reading all these SOPS rulings, the beatings the justice system applies to itself trying to fight reddit-level crazies is delightful.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 07:19:55; mircea_popescu: hahaha templeos guy is making his own hardware now ?
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 07:22:22; punkman: because 300mm wafer slice is expensive?
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 07:22:28; mircea_popescu: computers should come on fucking fabric already, i go to the shop buy 8 meters of opteron.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 07:26:50; punkman: "the display will be 4K (and of course 640x480 16 color)" heh
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 07:55:33; punkman: he cites a lot of verses, but also has some kind of bible-markov-chain that says new things
BingoBoingo: There's 4k screens under $800 now, but at what COST!!!
assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 17:23:51; ascii_field: gernika: for the record, i once tried to get 'blue collar' work, and failed. turned away, 'overqualified, you'll leave as soon as you can'
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 02:48:13; asciilifeform:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-08-2015#1223506 << i've said it before, will say again: if you can fake your way out of 'overqualified, go away' when applying to be a cook or street sweeper, you can and will work profitably in hollywood or cia
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and go and try turning it into vertical orientation, looks like shit soup << AMD thinkpadish was acquired for acceptable vertical quality. Imagined myself holding it like a book for ebook reading.
BingoBoingo: Turns out... occasions I'd want to do that instead of imagine doing that are rare.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 13:43:34; pete_d_out: "Moreover, employers may feel they can lowball applicants because they believe there is still a surplus of qualified candidates.
BingoBoingo: I thank the battery protruding from the back for that.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 13:51:36; pete_d_out: " In the latest move, AMD unveiled its FirePro S-Series GPUs that include the company's hardware-virtualization GPU architecture, Multiuser GPU (MxGPU). The technology is aimed at such segments as virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI), remote workstations, cloud gaming and cloud computing." << is cloud gaming a thing now ? i thought it was all ipad gaming.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you think this because you don't know gaming.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how familiar you are with ipad/android on one hand, and steam and derivatives on the other ; but amd's ploy is plainly to make a hardware-sum-of-these.
mircea_popescu: it won't work, for many reasons, but they are desperate so reaching out for stevejobian straws.
mircea_popescu: there's a large segment of idiots that moved to "eye candy slowly" paradigm
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes & his hipster friends are happy to wait 30 s for a webmail screen to load
mircea_popescu: even the notion of "pvp" has been perverted into "pick a team out of this list and cpu will play it for you - thereby you're attacking another player"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly. this is what they do, because this is what the mob wants, because mob is mentally retarded. PRETTIFY angry birds!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Last I checked Angry Birds runs in most turd browsers with user agent set to chrome
shinohai imagines asciilifeform playing the Oregon Trail still ....
mircea_popescu: yes, this is fine and good, i'm just saying the reasons they do what they do are outside of your experience.
mircea_popescu: basically [a segment of] gaming has turned into "gimme a minimally interactive tv show"
mircea_popescu: the trend is evident enoughj that fucking southpark mocked the tendency of kids to prefer to watch youtube vids of other people playing their games.
mircea_popescu: much like their parents much prefer to watch video footage of other [black, preferably] men fucking their wives.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense, something like "gpu-powered ipad game, 100ms delayed" is a great competition for cable tv
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: South Park's "Stick of Truth" pretty much set the bar for interactive TV sold as game
mircea_popescu: as social media and general laziness drove the cost of producing tv shows why the fuck up, forcing ever present decreases in quality,
mircea_popescu: it's feasible average consumer would prefer to watch visually upgraded angry birds on amd hardware to watching another talkshow.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 13:59:04; pete_d_out: fuck, i'd totally run a 10 ghz pentium. not like i pay for leccy.
assbot: That's right, time to move on. Please do. Bitcoin is really not for you. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1nUh3nN )
mircea_popescu: quoted here because my spamthing identified it as legit, and i had do to a triple taker and im STILL not convinced this is not a spam script.
BingoBoingo: Phillipino on acid, no real way to mechanically filter
BingoBoingo: Actually does look like maybe a poorly hand corrected google translate
mircea_popescu: more languages spoken in india than languages spoken in total.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it includes one link, and that link does not work.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's a personal landing page site done in Angular.js so invisible to sane browsers
mircea_popescu: the lords had women to lick their asshole clean ; the rest of the world can go hang.
mircea_popescu: i am not overall so convinced clasical eastern despotisms were so very wrong. yes provably wrong, but then again so is the west.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 15:33:16; asciilifeform: i never looked into what his entropy source is. if it's a prng, straight to hell.
BingoBoingo: I dunno about provably wrong. Giving Hegel a spin has me feeling rather favorable to the classical eastern despotisms he shat on.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the idea being then that perhaps with better management.,..
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That's what angular.js does
mircea_popescu: they'll fuck up your pageloads! no need to fuck them up youselves!
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would i want to send people to a landing page "aboput me" where someone else advertises other fucking idiots.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that seems like a reference to something in trilema.
BingoBoingo: There would be something there if the javascript was allowed 3 virgin afghan goats and a solstice with which to load
mircea_popescu: "After more than 20 years as an electronics engineer, Pete Edwards reached the low six-figure pay level. Now, as he looks for a job following a layoff, he finds that salary success a burden."
mircea_popescu: this whole "overqualified" thing is a very peculiar usg instrument of lizardlet punishment.
mircea_popescu: kinda like the soviet equivalent, "oh, so you got kicked out of your party commission thing ? no, you can't have a job. because fuck you, that's why"
mircea_popescu: god forbid everyone in wash dc goes "fuck you, fix the office policies or else ima be a carpenter"
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 12:52:40; BingoBoingo: "The decision comes as the NCAA continues to investigate Katina Powell’s claims that she and other escorts were paid thousands of dollars and given game tickets by former basketball staffer Andre McGee in exchange for dancing for and having sex with U of L players and recruits from 2010-14. The NCAA could still levy further sanctions on U of L in addition to the self-imposed penalty, but university pres
mircea_popescu: "come play for our team, free hookers buffet at lunch"
mircea_popescu: "thousands of dollars" ? earlier "electrical engineer" derp apparently made "low six figures", ie, 1/100 of what a house costs.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: what the fuck, whore budget for us tv sports team should be in the hundred mil a year sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: in vaguely related lulz : romanian women are sane ; as a result they're all over europe fucking the shit out of everything that moves ; as a result butthurt euroheads don't want to extend schengen zone to romania unless it "controils the problem" ;
mircea_popescu: "why the fuck send the whores there so you make most of the money and still bitch about it ? instead come here, pay 10x as much and we keep it all"
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 15:33:16; asciilifeform: i never looked into what his entropy source is. if it's a prng, straight to hell.
danielpbarron: and on the topic of ipad/phone games. Recently I bought the 'Catan' app after my brother showed me this board game. It's notbad.jpg
danielpbarron: i squeaked out a victory against 2 people and a bot last night; came down to dueling knight cards, and I had more :D
mircea_popescu: i played a game of poker with some local whores last night, busted my million within an hour.
danielpbarron: what is the unit of account here? argentine funny money?
mircea_popescu: ah the funniest thing : they wouldn't play poker. they wanted to play IPAD APP POKER!
mircea_popescu: so we all sat there with tables playing "poker" for a while.
danielpbarron: it probably suffers from the same problem as catan : bad rng
danielpbarron: the catan app at least has a "stack" dice mode where you can get even distribution if not actual randomness
mircea_popescu: well it suffers from the problem of bored waitress (shop girl / whore / whatever), they get into these fixations vaguely reminescent of "la pie a une manie : elle volle tout ce qui brille"
mircea_popescu: anyway, they all had billions in ipad poker money and got some sort of bonus or whatever for inviting new players.
mircea_popescu: "agreed. i like allan as a friend. to meet him you would probably like him too. he isnt nuts in general like many are. i have sat in on a few court dates that cant be brought up on here. allan and his family got shafted. that put al in a hard spot and drove his theories to what we have now. there was no reason for his kids to be taken. if there was i would gladly say so. in a way the courts created allan the vexatious.
mircea_popescu: he even tried the lawyer route for the sake of the children but the families could not afford it for long."
mircea_popescu: OF FUCKING COURSE the courts created the vexatious. what else created it, basil plants ?
mircea_popescu: but somehow it is ok to say "the presence of whores promotes disease", but conventionally not ok to say "the presence of courts promotes vexation".
mircea_popescu: sorta like in the early colonies it was ok to say "tomatoes are poisonous" and nobody was supposed to notice that "Eating off lead plates because you wanna be as cool as the europeans eating off silver but are poor and stupid is still a bad plan".
mircea_popescu: "i can only say so much for a few reasons. first allan is my friend. we dont agree on many points but this does not mean i care to make any assumptions about his beliefs on law and governance or his personal life. second there is a publication ban on things which i hold first hand knowledge of. i belive those cases were sealed as a cover up of what actually went on. there is nothing anyone will write here that will cha
mircea_popescu: nge that. i was actually there. i will say i have seen no judge, crown, or family services member with the best interest of the children in mind (in this case). and that is a hard fact.
mircea_popescu: and i barely see the point of this discussion as we are not allowed by operation of law to discuss many relevant points to the story. i think you could discuss much without including any name. but it does not show the why of allan filing and trying the way he does. if i was him i would have no faith in the courts at all.
mircea_popescu: i can only speak here to clarify certain misgivings about my friend. or i will violate the publication ban as it all links together."
mircea_popescu: dude... fuck delusional "courts bans". no court has the power to prevent public communication OF ANYTHING.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 13:43:34; pete_d_out: "Moreover, employers may feel they can lowball applicants because they believe there is still a surplus of qualified candidates.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 13:52:23; BingoBoingo: Cloud gaming is how they suppose they will feed iPads 3D graphics
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 13:58:34; pete_d_out: speaking of power consumption and moore's law, i hadn't realised that intel had claimed that the ~pentium 4~ would reach 10 ghz, nor that they actually manufactured the p4 at 3.8 ghz... in 2008. the only reason higher power outputs weren't produced en masse was that, apparently, the chips were already consuming 130w at 3.8 ghz and power consumption scaled linearly from there.
mircea_popescu: after mp said fu, EVERYONE said moore's law is no more.
mircea_popescu: this is all coincidence and has exactly nothing to do with mp, of course.
mircea_popescu: o look at that, bb's story still on slashdot first page.
mircea_popescu: 19ish to 14ish let's say, about 19 hours. the net value of being a majorily contested news item on slashdot first page is ~3500 unique visitors, ~4500 pages read for an average of 1.28 (or in practice, using the 1% rule, ~3 people read the news item and left, ~300 people read 3-4 pages each and may be back).
mircea_popescu: you can buy the same results from google for ~ 1-300 bucks, and seeing how slashdot has 15 items per first page and apparently a new set daily, the upper bound of its productive value would then be somewhere between 45000 and say 100k per month.
mircea_popescu: of course you can get the exact same also free, but then again that requires "skill".
BingoBoingo: So It's about 25% of what it was in early 2013 and exactly what it was in late 2013
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "- He says current block ciphers suck. Why? It doesn't really become clear from the discussion, which seems to be between two people who have heard a little bit about cryptography, and are trying to outdo each other in what little knowledge they have."
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:09:49; mircea_popescu: "thousands of dollars" ? earlier "electrical engineer" derp apparently made "low six figures", ie, 1/100 of what a house costs.
mircea_popescu: from same person, five minutes later, "Wait. 'Uses a 64 kbyte key' - is he mad? Does he realize the trouble he will have to go through when he has to transport over a network, or do a key agreement on, keys of that size?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the 100k is a salary, 100 years of that buys you a house where your job is. you denying this ?
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:16:03; danielpbarron: turn based, so latency isn't an issue
mircea_popescu: and now my dear friends, ima be off to send keys over wires. bbl.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:30:26; mircea_popescu: dude... fuck delusional "courts bans". no court has the power to prevent public communication OF ANYTHING.
mircea_popescu: and it is routine for rapists to kill their victims, in same anglo world. what of it ?
mircea_popescu: I think I know what (s)he is talking about - it's similar to this one
https://vimeo.com/7125141 [vimeo.com] , and involves MP breaking down in the face of confrontation. Not necessarily crying per se, but he acts like a kid who has been told he can't go out and play until he eats his broccoli. Might even be the same event, but this video was put out by MP and is edited to make MP look good, at least in his own eyes. <<
mircea_popescu: what exactly is "breakinjg down" about me telling some random farmer at political rally why he can't have living wage ?
mircea_popescu: there's all this constant "oh i know why this person that's better than me did what he did, let me tell you!" bullshit.
mircea_popescu: apparently i'm "self exiled to argentina" because i'm fucking local now. apparently my slaves are "whores" because hey, "it's unfair" or whatever.
mircea_popescu: i wish to see place where person in position of management/responsibility makes decision and publicly backs it by plain statement that moore law's a delusion.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:45:04; mircea_popescu: see alf ? you don't know things!
mircea_popescu: well... i suppose if you find prior art re moore's law ima buy slashdot and redirect it to logs.
mircea_popescu: derp #1 : "What is wrong with existing block ciphers like AES? AES has been in widespread use for over a decade and to the best of my knowledge, there is still no practical attack on it (unless someone has built a working quantum computer and not told anyone about it). Its totally free of patents and IP issues. Its been implemented in a huge variety of hardware and software (including the Intel CPU that I am using to m
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ake this postining). Even the NSA trusts AES enough to certify it for use protecting top secret information."
mircea_popescu: derp #2 : Nothing. The guy is just a fool who believes that bigger block size is better. He's a very obvious sufferer of the Dunning Kruger effect [wikipedia.org]
mircea_popescu: dude wasn't slashdot supposed to be made out of informed people and whatnot ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform finding threads for events after the event is a fun sort of historical game. nevertheless, the events are the events.
mircea_popescu: they decided that the true reason (tm) must be workfunction-something.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> apparently i'm "self exiled to argentina" because i'm fucking local now. << I did that troll
mircea_popescu: i remember the days, back when the mothers of the current crop of internet kids were still sucking cock on public grounds, that slashdot was really cool.
mircea_popescu: then again i suppose there's some middle aged lawyers somewhere that remember the days facebook was really cool.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: you have to understand cool is a political concept, much like "declase" in french salon world of 1800.
mircea_popescu: "if you make the list of places, and cross out the places where you woujldn't want to be seen, the result is the list of cool places"
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:47:26; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the 100k is a salary, 100 years of that buys you a house where your job is. you denying this ?
BingoBoingo: AHA, Like motorcarriage powered by radiothermal generator
BingoBoingo: So six ton golf car roughly after fending off volcanoes and bears with oars from boat
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thestringpuller: asciilifeform: dunno if this was in logs. but why is the "crypto comoonity" opposed to RSA?
thestringpuller: every netsec guy at my coal mine is like "RSA is bad don't use it mmmkay. ECC please"
thestringpuller: i figure it's disinformation. but who am I to argue with "crypto experts!!!11" and such
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 15:35:48; asciilifeform: problem is that one doesn't get to 'make a name' in academe as 'cryptographer' by pushing rsa.
thestringpuller: an exercise for the reader is always a good exercise. I'll see what 'netsec' tards at work say to that question.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> otp. << if the key is 64kb, technically otp would work fine for message up to 64kb.
mircea_popescu: which... i dun recall the last time i used a message longer
mircea_popescu: POINT BEING that in order to justify his oats, horse better pull cart more than donkey.
mircea_popescu: so - if "cryptologists" can not produce what i ask of them - their wives, to the brothel, they themselves to the mines, for fraud.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i don't need "experts" and "universities" to tell me 1800 state of the art.
gernika: mod6: my 99996 node is wedging every 1k blocks or so. I would be happy to apply any logging or debugging patches that might be out there to help track down the problem.
gernika: or perhaps this is one of those "hands of the drowning" situations. bleh. C++ here I come.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 17:30:00; mircea_popescu: so - if "cryptologists" can not produce what i ask of them - their wives, to the brothel, they themselves to the mines, for fraud.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is a difference between making a boeing for pay and making a cipher for pay.
mircea_popescu: i can inspect other boeings that were made, including by the people that trained you.
mircea_popescu: explain the requirement, offer fame and a little fortune. that's the only one path.
gernika: asciilifeform: Since I've already shutdown the node, I can't answer your other questions at this time. I will once I've started it up again and it re-wedges (i.e. no new accepted blocks for 12+ hours)
mircea_popescu: there's no way to extrinsically motivate astrologers to become astronomers.
mod6: i don't think a billion units is lulzy at all.
mircea_popescu: the world owes you nothing. now go die, in any manner you choose for yourself.
mod6: gernika: be sure to capture logs. we've seen wedges in the past, and they hvae some distinct tell tale signs in the logs.
mod6: also, which block was the last accepted? i.e., which block was it grinding on?
mircea_popescu: someone WANTS to be a cryptographer, THAT SOMEONE better be a cryptographer.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, whores and miners are abundant and i couldn't care less.
mircea_popescu: whether workable cipher materializes or not does not decide if mp is mp.
mircea_popescu: it DOES decide whether ~anyone~ is a cryptographer or not, however.
mircea_popescu: any time any kid grows some balls, ars is longa, well lubed and awaits.
mircea_popescu: as we agreed, cramer-shoup with shared key is acceptable symmetric cipher.
mircea_popescu: if nothing else, the tiny ammt of publicity we've been doing around it pisses people off. so...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You gotta remember Bitcoin runs on drama.
adlai: if Watts were alive today, he'd prolly amend "the planet peoples" to "the planet Bitcoins"
mircea_popescu: so for everyone watching : s.nsa will be doing double month report next month ; s.mpoe will be filing later today.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: mod6> i don't think a billion units is lulzy at all. << what is this re ?
ben_vulpes: cramer shoup + shared key does not reduce to...otp?
ben_vulpes not even qualified to ask questions about this probably
ben_vulpes: and the need to share the key does not impose the same operational considerations as otp?
mircea_popescu: in the EP? general scheme of true cryptography, otp occupies a peculiar spot, equivalent to rsa's use of multiplication, where otp uses "multiplication modulo 1" or "multiplication in the binary group" for a º function
ben_vulpes: what does c-s buy one over the otp in that case?
mod6: mircea_popescu: the reward for the Block Cipher contest
mircea_popescu: mod6 ah. well... negotiable insturment, you know. everyone values it as he values it. there's not exactly a dearth of offerings - notably the reward to prove qmail is buggy was 500. knuth's rewards are a dollar and change., etc
BingoBoingo: Seriously now, there's people paid to believe warez doesn't lead to innovation.
punkman: is there a decent otp implementation?
BingoBoingo: otp implementation is as good as your random
punkman: gotta have something to remember how much of the otp has been used
mircea_popescu: the whole power of the scheme comes from "everything's equally likely". yet if everything's not equally likely...
BingoBoingo: <punkman> gotta have something to remember how much of the otp has been used << burn the used pages of your cipherbook
mircea_popescu: for instance, consider the naive situation where you take 1mb worth of debug.log, and xor it against 1mb of perfect noise.
mircea_popescu: i will then proceed to count the As and the Ws and break your thing to a large degree.
mircea_popescu: esp since i know plenty of strings likely to appear in the plaintext.
mircea_popescu: do the experiment for yourself, it's really a great entry thing into cryptanalysis.
mircea_popescu: to be studied in pairs, one kid makes the scheme, the other kid breaks the scheme, then alternate positions.
punkman: does perfect noise random noise?
mircea_popescu: perfect noise = all items have exact same probability to appear.
mircea_popescu: you're doing (items have varying, known probabilities to appear) xor (all items have same probability to appear).
mircea_popescu: the necessary result is (different items have same varying, known probabilities to appear as in the plaintext)
mircea_popescu: this is fundamental instruction in the importance of.... large block sizes.
mircea_popescu: and yes as noted by alf the "pill" for this fundamental problem is to make sure that message length stays well under statistical sample.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> was also a penguin linked here recently, same idea. << Problem of using block cipher as code book
mircea_popescu: the correct way to apply otp to something like human readable text is to weigh it.
mircea_popescu: this is an operation very close to compression, a sort of crypto-lzw.
punkman: perfect noise = all items have exact same probability to appear. << do 0 and 1s not have same probability to appear in random bitstring?
mircea_popescu: punkman "items" is used there deliberately, to scale with the size of the block you use.
mircea_popescu: let's work with a very simple example. suppose we use two bits, and suppose the plaintext is as follows : 00 appears 1 case out of 8 ; 01 appears 2 cases out of 8 ; 10 appears 4 cases out of 8 and 11 appears one case out of 8. 1+1+2+4=8.
mircea_popescu: now, those 4 cases out of 8 of "10" have equal chances to meet 00, 01, 10, and 11. as a result you will see :
mircea_popescu: this is actually usable to describe a lot of the plain text, and exponentially more so when i know that debug.log tends to contain a lot of "connection" strings.
punkman: this sounds like you want to do frequency analysis on otp, but perhaps I'm just thick
mircea_popescu: to be plainer : otp works better with biased pad of unknown bias than with unbiased pad of known lack of bias.
mircea_popescu: understand : if you collect say 1024 random bits, the chances of seeing 512 1s and 512 0s are < 1%
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:59:13; mircea_popescu: then again i suppose there's some middle aged lawyers somewhere that remember the days facebook was really cool.
danielpbarron: and yes asciilifeform i know what gpu is, just saying there are some fun games for touch devices
danielpbarron: if it works as a board game it probably works on a touch screen, is probably a good general rule
assbot: Logged on 03-02-2016 01:53:21; asciilifeform: actually for many years i have thought about the ideal electric otp.
punkman: isn't compressing your otp akin to whitening?
punkman: you can't do frequency analysis on otp
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform technically speaking, the s-box cipher crapolade is an ellaborate exercise in reusingselect parts of otp
mircea_popescu: this alone should show they're deeply inadequate, but who knows fundamentals anymore.
mircea_popescu: there is another way to die using otp, and that way is to use a lengthy biased message the enemy knows most of.
mircea_popescu: if i know you will be encrypting one of shakespeare's plays, otp won't save you.
punkman: you would find infinite texts that make sense
mircea_popescu: they aren't all equally probable if i can rely on your otp being random.
mircea_popescu: are you paying me 10 btc if we do this experiment and i do guess it, "with telepathy, at home" ?
mircea_popescu: you pick one of two lengthy, structured plaintexts i provide, you encrypt them with a biasless, purely random rng, and i decide which of the two you picked.
punkman: should add some btc to challenge :)
mircea_popescu: punkman why, he didn't feel obliged to add any btc to the other one, just bitch about the insufficiency of the sum.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform funny how money clears the mind, even if it's too little to mention.
punkman: so you'd be able to pick the right message more than 50% of the time?
mircea_popescu: if you're making 1 mb of 01111110 and 1mb of 10000001 and then otp them against a random pad
mircea_popescu: you'll fucking see which one is encrypted in five minutes.
mircea_popescu: the examples given are not structured and readily reduce to "1" and "0", so no, it wouldn't work here.
mircea_popescu: let me put it this way : stuff like CRC, or ECC etc, exists fundamentally out of "we guarantee you can recover the plaintext after it has been otp'd with a pad which is AT LEAST this biased"
mircea_popescu: how biased the otp needs to be is part of the crc spec, for instance "every 8th bit may be a 1" etc.
mircea_popescu: but in general, if you do away with the requirement to recover ALL of the plaintext,
mircea_popescu: and if the plaintext is long enough, this is equivalent to a requirement of minimal bias in the otp pad.
mircea_popescu: you don't see the crc discussion sufficient for our purposes ?
punkman: mp makes 2 plaintexts, ascii generates 1000 otps, for each otp: picks one of the 2 plaintexts and xors with otp. mp must guess guess correctly 501?, 600? more?
mircea_popescu: it really needn't be done over more than one try lol. srsly ? 1k ?
mircea_popescu: mk, ima bbl see if i can hack together something that satisfies the audience theoretically.
thestringpuller: and this is what #b-a is the most amazing channel on freenode
punkman: asciilifeform: why, would padding be a problem?
punkman: but even if you pad with all 0s, works
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform notice that this isn't "wins/loses". you're just giving 10 btc away, on the if.
mircea_popescu: that i guess your message. which i suppose necessarily carries the caveat that "must not be by chance",
punkman: if you want to do 1, must have 1000 plaintexts instead
punkman: you pick one of 1000 plaintexts, generate one otp
punkman: well not in kindergarten, but I did play this game on paper once
punkman: I meant instead of doing 100 iterations of guess between 2 plaintexts, one iteration of guessing between 100 plaintexts
punkman: mp could choose padding rule if he doesn't want equal length
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform : Let message A consist of individual bytes counting down from FFFFFFFF ; let message B consist of individual bytes counting up from 00000000. Let the enemy xor one of these two against a random, unbiased OTP of the same length and supply the enciphered result. Take that result, and count the instances where byte n is larger than byte n+1. Take that result, and count the instances where byte n is larger t
mircea_popescu: han byte n-1. The larger of the two indicates the message encrypted ; the difference between these counts indicate your confidence (or the rng's bias).
mircea_popescu: ok i guess ima have to figure out some way to hm. hey asciilifeform , how about this deal : i pay you 10 btc of my eventual winnings, should they exist, but you make the messages and show the result. i dun have a compiler ready and nfi how you generate the described messages in bash
punkman: other variant: ascii makes 100 otps, makes 100 plaintexts, X of which are the string "mircea_popescu: long, deeply biased plaintexts are dangerous for otp.", then passes 100 ciphertexts to mp. mp must guess X withing some range.
mircea_popescu: you can make as many otps as you want, it's still coming out the same way o.O
punkman: the third variant is also ok I think
punkman: mp must guess how many of the 100 ciphertexts are made from the string ""mircea_popescu: long, deeply biased plaintexts are dangerous for otp.""
punkman: I guess every other string can be all 0s
mircea_popescu: assay 1 : count 32734 / 32743. expected 1st lower than 2nd. confirmed.
mircea_popescu: assay 2 : count 32778 / 32775. expected 1st lower than 2nd. infirmed.
mircea_popescu: assay 3: count 32959 / 32964. expected 1st lower than 2nd. confirmed.
mircea_popescu: assay 4 : count 32810 / 32814. expected 1st lower than 2nd. confirmed.
mircea_popescu: the method described above, one plaintext counts up one counts down.
mircea_popescu: now, 64kb aren't that much, and the structure chosen is literally the simplest thing available for ease of implementation. nevertheless, a little DOES leak even so.
punkman: what's the point of public otp
mircea_popescu: first plaintext counts up from 1 ; the 2nd counts down from 65535
mircea_popescu: thus nth position in otp xor nth position in ciphered a must yield n and in ciphered b must yield 65535-n
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform otp bias cheifly doesn't matter here, as the same otp is delibverately used for both messages.
mircea_popescu: which was the original fucking point that ended up in all this weird.
mircea_popescu: i had no fucking idea the notion that you're supposed to debias plaintext before otping it is even controversial.
punkman: you can't get the bitmap penguin after otp
mircea_popescu: let me try a different aprpoach, maybe that's more comprehensible.
mircea_popescu: your bias-less rng shits out n/2 ones. they go against a message containing 3/4n ones. they will flip n/2 items in the message, 3/4 of which being 1s and 1/4 being 0s. you thus end up with 3/8 old ones + 1/8 ex-zeroes for a grand total of exactly 1/2 whoa.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well the whole result here is that ~your~ 10 btc can wait for a better day.
mircea_popescu goes to direct men at work in different field now, having satisfactorily brought his contribution here.
punkman: /me goes look for otp-compatible MAC scheme
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phf:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397760 << when i was interviewing last year, was straight up told by several different companies that i should adjust my rate because i won't be able to compete in the market (that's a direct quote from on of the hr people). one company we went through several phone calls where different people were telling me that the salary requirement is a bit high, but maybe we can work something out
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 13:43:34; pete_d_out: "Moreover, employers may feel they can lowball applicants because they believe there is still a surplus of qualified candidates.
phf: that works for all of us, i.e. my impression is that the expectation was that i would cave and take less
mircea_popescu: trying to find out whether you know how much you're worth or not really at the very least.
phf: well, i was out of the loop for couple of years, working for hsbc, and those guys don't haggle over 50k
mircea_popescu: ironically, they do in their core divisions. but not about it and so forth.
phf: just my impression is that it's gotten particularly toxic. i.e. lower your rate, or we'll just go with somebody else
mircea_popescu: "if my job can be done by somebody else you absolutely should."
mircea_popescu: then they call back and well... it's a 5% more nao. just to get the message across.
mircea_popescu: people not doing that (because people are generally NOT qualified for the jobs they get) is the principal reason it went toxic.
phf: at my old jobs i used to seek out talanted devs, and during weekend drinking convince them that they should go demand a raise, it worked couple of times. those who would listen will immediately start moving up the ladder, "who would've thought". some people still reach out and tell me about their salary fights in the "i tell them go fuck themselves" kind of terms. warms my heart
phf: can't drink with devs anymore though, it gets boring really fast
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phf: oh, a funny thing from last years interviews. i ask for a month vacation time (since 2 weeks is standard here, i just say 2 weeks pto and 2 weeks unpaid leave) written in the contract, so that there aren't any questions. during one interview guy was trying to convince me how that's bad for company and how it's a crazy thing to ask for, finally at the end he started complaining that he's been there for 5 years and was promissed friday
phf: work from home and they would not give it to home and that it's just life
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mats: i get 24 sick days at this new job l0l
mats: and after some years, not sure when but under ten, i get 48, wtf
mats: ben_vulpes: i remember you suggested that i read 'Leviathan Wakes'
mats: there is a SyFy thing called The Expanse nao