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BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: rust is cancer, but sealing it with paint may slow progesion. prolly safer to stick to "rustoleum" paint over a plastidip/rubberseal product
asciilifeform: 'If you’d like to join us, there’s plenty to do. You could: Port a small C function in lisp.h to lisp.rs. Port your favourite built-in elisp function to Rust.'
a111: Logged on 2017-01-19 06:57 ben_vulpes: http://www.wilfred.me.uk/blog/2017/01/11/announcing-remacs-porting-emacs-to-rust/
ben_vulpes: http://www.wilfred.me.uk/blog/2017/01/11/announcing-remacs-porting-emacs-to-rust/ ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-01-14 04:21 mircea_popescu: https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/ <<< guess what else is gone.
mircea_popescu: https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/ <<< guess what else is gone. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (you may be excused from thinking that's a stupid question, as it is, but nevertheless the rust lingo is insane in this vein. "why can i not borrow a boxed vector content as mutable" ie let's make up a whole lingo of nonsense)
mircea_popescu: anyway, /me tires of #rust. there's been 500 join/parts and strictly one line ("<clmg> How do I borrow a vector mutably while iterating over that vector? Is it possible?") in the past 3 hours.
mircea_popescu: oh unsurprisingly enough rust has a "code of conduct". this is getting to be signal-positive : if $item has "code of conduct", $item is comprised of idiots, imbeciles and their handlers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tried to try out rust. he gets no bots, has to make his own irc server, there's no phf etc.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-14 01:28 mircea_popescu: aqnyway, the "hive mind" is fucking comedic already. FIVE YEARS with the subverted python, got them nowhere. close to five years pushing rust, nothing to show for it. systemd is still mostly a joke, and the hatred is growing exponentially while the pustule is growing logarithmic at that. meanwhile the republic cracked open the heartbleed in quite the painful fashion, no matter how much effort went into "rehappening" it. not t
mircea_popescu: aqnyway, the "hive mind" is fucking comedic already. FIVE YEARS with the subverted python, got them nowhere. close to five years pushing rust, nothing to show for it. systemd is still mostly a joke, and the hatred is growing exponentially while the pustule is growing logarithmic at that. meanwhile the republic cracked open the heartbleed in quite the painful fashion, no matter how much effort went into "rehappening" it. not t ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : blog.rust-lang.org went away. there is a https://archive.is/pwdGh however.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, me reads " Eric, a year ago I came to similar conclusions. Watching the chaos on the mailing lists and IRC channel,", proceeds to join #rust, is shocked by the sound of utter silence. maybe the guy meant join/part spam, who knows. nice going anyway.
asciilifeform: from comments, lulzgold, 'The Hivemind is fully committed to systemd for service management, Wayland for graphical display, and PulseAudio for audio, which is why it doesn’t matter if you personally find them distasteful, they will become the de facto standard. For systems programming, Rust looks increasingly like it will be the Hivemind’s choice to replace C, as it has the backing of the Mozilla organization, is being used for r ☟︎
ben_vulpes: battery tie down rod simply failed under torsional load: "that...didn't feel like the rust giving way. jesus /fuck/."
gabriel_laddel_p: also rust is for retards.
ben_vulpes: i use whirling rust, he -- ssd's.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 23:09 Framedragger: come on now, rust is not necessarily a shitlang. :)
asciilifeform: now, back to Framedragger's gurl, 'This work is potentially applicable to other OTF and internet freedom projects, including Tor (if we ever allow linking against Rust code) and Signal. After a meeting with Trevor Perrin, we've also added to our todo list (probably after this project is done, so with alternate funding) to incorporate into curve25519-dalek some additional functionality required for the Signal protocol.'
Framedragger: come on now, rust is not necessarily a shitlang. :) ☟︎
asciilifeform: ed on algebraic MACs. [3] The construction of this scheme required a library for working with points on an elliptic curve, [4] which Henry de Valence and I have implemented in Rust, using a curve25519 in Edwards form. Henry has made more detailed announcement of our curve25519-dalek library on the curves mailing list, [5] and our documentation is also available online. [6]'
BingoBoingo: <trinque> pete_dushenski: tundras are motherfuckers; they're in the running. << Recently Honda Civic SUV edition "CRV" fell onto my rolling candidates list. Slotted just below rust-free 1986 S10
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: well, tbf, you put all your rust ~in your house~ with all those old pdps and alphas. at least we put ours in garages.
BingoBoingo: the_scourge: Why would I want terrorist jap truck when I can find rust American Iron to give blessing of Great Again!
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/Shq9z << in vague lulz : romanian immigrant (from small town in romania's own rust belt) living in az and working as a rent-a-cop voted trump. his declared principal issue : "the stability of world peace".
phf: we broke ascii, we need more newblood here to immunize us against random "why not use rust in docker container!!"
catvorg_cultist: what was the name of that Rust clone of Unix, which run with "everything is a hyperlink".
shinohai: http://archive.is/516O8 "Go and Rust are compelling, safe languages for writing the type of systems software that has traditionally been written in C."
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 04:18 ben_vulpes: just two weekends ago i had to excise some rust-welded nuts that didn't have clearance for a socket wrench.
BingoBoingo: Gotta let rust lose the batle to penetrating agent before delivering torque
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> just two weekends ago i had to excise some rust-welded nuts that didn't have clearance for a socket wrench. << PB Blaster!
ben_vulpes: just two weekends ago i had to excise some rust-welded nuts that didn't have clearance for a socket wrench.
asciilifeform: it can go and sadly rust somewhere else, in some other fool's garage.
asciilifeform: and yes, if jurov does not roll up his sleeves, and do the painful cleaning, it will rust and eventually no longer fire.
asciilifeform: jurov: no, but that it is better than letting the thing rust solid
jurov: When there will be new shiny thing in rust or something
asciilifeform: in every case, one discovers that the supposedly 'broken' original still works great, once you remove the rust and monkey shit it was buried under
shinohai: I used to do the homebrew electrolysis thing to remove rust.
BingoBoingo: Well gasoline won't leave an oxide after it breaks through the rust to actual steel
BingoBoingo: phf: To remove the rust and leave a black oxide finish in its place.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-11 04:12 asciilifeform: (fuck spinning rust)
asciilifeform: i tread spinning rust as i once treated tape
asciilifeform: (fuck spinning rust) ☟︎
asciilifeform: ever meet a bloke whose hammers are red with rust ?
asciilifeform: aaaaaaaah finally got rid of the last spinning rust thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also this is outdoor item, properly coated pipe is good outside. fittings fucking rust. and on it goes.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I dunno how to save it. You way be too coastal and insufficiently rust belt.
pete_dushenski: but you can shoot car! just leave to rust in farmer's field.
kakobrekla: im spinning rust free - i have a few 'hp microservers' for that running in another room
asciilifeform: rust catalyzes rust. there is no purpose baked into the statement.
danielpbarron: >> A couple of kettles served them well for many years, but when rust finally overcame them, the only replacements they could fashion came from birch bark. << /me thinks of leaky treebark flasks
jurov: after syncing i have moved older half of blockXXX.dat on spinning rust and it did not access them very often
assbot: Logged on 01-02-2016 19:56:14; ascii_butugychag: imho spinning rust is a losing proposition for any node.
ascii_butugychag: imho spinning rust is a losing proposition for any node. ☟︎
punkman: spinning rust sucks
BingoBoingo: Rust is Mozilla's "systems programming" language
mircea_popescu: what's rust again ?
mircea_popescu: Copyright (c) 2014 The Rust Project Developers
mircea_popescu: Adapted from the Rust Code of Conduct.
punkman: "Not to be "that guy", but as cool as it is to ponder doing this in some bright, shiny language like Rust or ML, Ada exists for a reason.  There's even an open source compiler (Gnat) that can already generate code that can link with C/C++/etc code bases.  Work would need to go into streamlining the run time overhead for this use case, but how much compared to maintaining some C compiler
mircea_popescu: "most advanced rust bucket on the high seas"
asciilifeform: punkman: the car is typically either an old rust bucket or deeply creditatronic
pete_dushenski: and now with no rust on front fenders thanks to a fortuitous shop accident that resulted in denting the hood, which needed to be painted after being replaced, and allowed me to piggyback on paint shop time and repair a cosmetic deficiency i may never have bothered with!
jurov: lobbes: just your skills rust. but low skills are useful,too
pete_dushenski: via https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/chinas-hard-hit-rust-belt-reflects-the-countrys-economic-woes/2015/08/24/d5d82752-45bf-11e5-9f53-d1e3ddfd0cda_story.html
asciilifeform: (supposedly, more than one nato agent outed by otherwise perfect forgeries of documents where stapes failed to rust)
pete_dushenski: leave that smashed-up merc for 200 years in the scrapyard and it'll be rust dust.
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 11:33:19; jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1185700 << in my experience, you can use spinning rust if you throw in 8GB RAM
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1185700 << in my experience, you can use spinning rust if you throw in 8GB RAM ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the only reason the usg-tronic 'department of fucking with bitcoin' is even theoretically of interest is that the machine isn't perfect. has some rust, sand in gears (as discussed, e.g., yesterday, re: mempool etc.) in effect there is a $maxint bounty by hitler for anyone who can demonstrably amplify the hiccups.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the problem exists because it's global. not because "in this tiny island of rust beltlandia so and so rats".
mircea_popescu: next us president whoever is gonna be is going to discover a sudden fondness for russia and "move past previous difficulties", and the transition's complete : washington is now a sort of germany, in charge of a large rust bucket that doesn't much care for it.
asciilifeform: i thought it was a block of rust ?
mod6: rust all over.
ascii_field: incidentally, rust's flight caused the sacking of pretty much the whole of soviet air force brass.
ascii_field: see also, mathias rust ( http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/the-notorious-flight-of-mathias-rust-7101888/?no-ist etc )
trinque: ben_vulpes: the actual dieharder code uses glibc internals in a way that used to work, now does not due to as yet undiscovered source of rust, with vague indications that compiling with std=c99 has implications for glibc
asciilifeform: it's solid rust
asciilifeform: there is also the overall 'rust' resulting from no one ever building static anything whasoever for years.
ascii_field: allowed to 'rust'.
mircea_popescu: in any case, the "this thing breaks if it runs out of power at any point after the enemy (or more likely plain old rust) has destroyedall seed ips" proposition is better value than
brendafdez: back before i lost my German to rust, i would hear people speak dutch and it felt like the broken dialect of those who couldn't speak with the mouth
mircea_popescu: "There are no homeopathic automobile repair shops, that try to repair your car by putting infinitesimal dilutions of rust in the gas tank. There are no automotive faith healers, who lay their hands on the hood and pray."
assbot: heartbleed in rust ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dz2WFT )
BingoBoingo: http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/heartbleed-in-rust << implied lolz
trinque: mircea_popescu: I remember you talking about whether Stalins rust; I understand him to have succumbed to a great deal of paranoia about underlings coming after him
mircea_popescu: in hierarchical situations, once ford decides to order his lieutenant to mine a hill because he sees rust on it,
jurov: i'm running bitcoind fine on $100 minitx mobo with spinning rust hdd.. and it sems to have enough capacity for next 5 years
decimation: herr walker just introduced me to the 'rust' language: http://www.rust-lang.org/
Namworld: You know what I mean. Stuff not kept in perfect condition, lighting not very bright. Lots of spillage/uncleaned stuff. Rust/dirty walls.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> and this is considerably cheaper than getting a hold of a climate-controlled space where lathe, mill, won't rust in winter. << Wait how much does a climate controlled storage locker cost on your left coast?
asciilifeform: and this is considerably cheaper than getting a hold of a climate-controlled space where lathe, mill, won't rust in winter.
asciilifeform: american 'golden toilets' tend to fall into rust if you forget them in a closet for a year.
asciilifeform: 'We understand automobiles. There are no homeopathic automobile repair shops, that try to repair your car by putting infinitesimal dilutions of rust in the gas tank. There are no automotive faith healers, who lay their hands on the hood and pray. People reserve such superstitions for things that they don’t understand very well, such as the human body… … Superstitions arise because we don’t understand. I
asciilifeform: based on supposedly-actual story, where russians noticed that staples in certain passports failed to rust.
asciilifeform: why rust is a problem for iron but not aluminum say << rust is actually electrochemical phenonemon. so not a problem for this experiment (after - is different question)
mircea_popescu: " you will need to swap the electrolyte a few times, and clean the cavity (at least with a nail) from the products of electrolysis." from the imgur in question. this is not strictly true : in some cases the electrolyte products are protective, in some cases however they are not. depends a lot what we're drilling. (this is roughly why rust is a problem for iron but not aluminum say.)
jurov: once they get their spinning rust right
joecool: covers the rust