mod6: <+mircea_popescu> heh. aaand a trb node is at height 419220 for absolutely no reason ; 50+ connections, stable etc. << did this get fixed? or is it stuck at that same block still?

mod6: <+mod6> as soon as there is a non-us wot-enabled btc provider... i might think about a bare metal thing for this. << i may not wait for this... i dunno, will have to see.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hm apparently that doesn;t exist in stock gpg. my bad. << ah ok.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> well lemme prototype this quick see if what i have in mind works. << thanks!

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> and the pile itself could just be put through gpg --armor, afaik you don't HAVE TO encrypt. i think ? << good question. i think you might just be able to armor.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> im still lost on "one could not tell what thing it contained". << when discussed & shown, they are large signed/armored files. (with `gpg --armor --sign`)

mod6: <+mod6> because i can't decode those files with the base64 binary. << maybe im doing something wrong here.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> more practical would be to force the code to make a pile of say 64 byte keys and sieve them. << this would be interesting.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-29#1511478 << yeah but you also get to see what all the shit is. << yeah totally. ☝︎

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 yeah, i recall. << iirc, there was a whole pile of these second level deps. i seem to remember that at the time, there wasn't a plan in place for how to climb the mountain there. but with the primary artifacts now deeded, we have a pattern.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510902 << this is a good point, actually. gotta be looked into, sealing gotta seal all the crevices. << noted. I dug into this at one point, but got side tracked by other pressing things that came up at the time. ☝︎

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> fawn i mean. << sure.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> get those fucking fine steel mesh rubbered, pro gloves. << oh ok

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> maybe train your cat to decapitate rabbits ? << dog gets a bunch. but apparently not enough.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> so apparently turkey's burning up << yeah saw that.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> no good with the "reference" the thing, because you can get the thing without the reference, see ? << very much agree.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 how do you add comment with armor ? << yeah, there'd be no comment in the gpg armor'd artifacts. this would only be possible with using the uuencoded archives, placing a comment in the top, and then clearsigning the whole thing.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> at least this'd allow some basis for proper management of this mess, rather than current adhocness << the nice part about the makefiles and your preposed solution is that we would finally have a solution in place for all of this.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 specifically, iirc it's tens of mb not gb. amirite ? << Yes, Sir.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> let's not forget that all the hype, buzz and derpage isn't worth a cupfula warm piss ; this thing has to sustain itself ON FEES. << yup!

mod6: <+mats> and apparently mike judge plans to bring it back << there was a new season that he created a year or two ago

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> of course, you still have to give them access, which reduces to the same thing. in the end, all these are php, wiki ~= blog ~= forum etc. what are they gonna do different, you know ? << yeah, true.

mod6: <+mod6> it says: "Put the pubkeys of people you trust in there as name1.asc, name2.asc etc" << perhaps a parenthitical needs to be added to this that says: (This is a manual process.)

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> o hey check out the pretty blondy. << yah cute

mod6: ref: (14:57) <+mod6> if we needed to add code everytime these gnomes comeup with a new crapolade, that's all we'd ever be doing.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> nevertheless, we're not making the mistake of introducing coin taint, under any name. << totally agree.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> cameron's career is definitely over. << spot on.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> "open that can!" "Smash that wall!" etc. << heheh

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> you can't say lisp without S! << heheh. "lithp"

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> oh and mod6 - suppose i want to add the observation that really, the wallet functionality and the "caching transactions" functionality should be separated in bitcoin - there's no conceivable reason to store the latter in the former for instance. how would i go about adding this to the bitcoin tickets ? ask you ? do something myslef ? << you certainly can feel free to help me round out the t

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 should be done BY X. so i know who to chase. << I think if someone wants to put their name on a ticket, ... ok, and they can put a completion date in there.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> also important, suppose i want to split up a ticket later. what should i do, delete and re-enter ? << so saythat UCI ticket 7 needs to become two seperate tickets and the original didn't capture what it was supposed to capture; i would just make a new ticket, and then edit the existing one to reform what would be or seem correct.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 aww, you didn't choke on the submit part did you ? just gpg --encrypt --armor -r bingo and put the text into dpaste or wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com << ah, no. my writing isn't good. so lol, it's difficult for me.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/trb_ascii_graph.txt << ideally numbers should be hooverable, ie show ticket content if you put mouse on it. title="$ticket" iirc. << sure. the ascii ticket graph is just ascii. not sure of any way to "mark up" the text without turning into something that's not text.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> anyway, wiped. i guess once tbot's here ima put the silkroad dump thing in there, maybe it's still around by the time someone figures out the world enough. << in related tbot news: i've got 8 remaining steps outlined to get us to the initial rollout in here. each isn't super hard or anything, working on the first one as I type this.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> anywya, once mod6 gets that T thing going we can actually create tickets for all this, which'll make the task less insane. << making daily progress!

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hey mod6 if you have time today to hold my hand with your T, ima move the whole "hey x plox y" thing over. << hi! i should be available in a few hours for sure.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> by now the phuctor rss is actually a major reason to watch this chan. i have nfi how one could be "in crypto/compsec/sysadmin" and NOT want to see the key holes in real time. << the congressional record is reason enough; but with broadcasted ass fuckings, all the more reason indeed Sir.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> shinohai you ever had bimbo bread ? << first time I saw this in a supermarcado i was like "ha! they don't even know..."

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> i guess one good move, and very foundation-like, would be to make lists of what we want, both for cB [cleanning Bitcoin] and iB [ideal Bitcoin] << ok so this is a start.

mod6: oh like [CTRL+V CTRL+M]? This will yield you a matchable '^M'

mod6: (17:57) <+mircea_popescu> shinohai> I see there is no way shinohai can just donate the shares back to qntra and forget about it all. << you can prolly instruct jurov to sell them and donate proceeds to foundation say. << this is exactly the correct approach. this way we take a btc donation (tyvm!) and we continue to only hold M1

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 hey man do you have bouncer logs of historical b-a ? << sadly, no. :/

mod6: <+mike_c> Time for bed. I'll be around again now. << cool, man. talk to you tomorrow

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hanbot mod6 maybe an extension to deedbot where people could go !tag <string> and then a collection of clickable tags is published somewhere, each leading to a list of loglines ? << This could work -- it's in the vein of the 'BUTTSECKS' flag. Which seems simple enough. And the given topic-'tag' is a decent idea, i.e. 'OOM' or 'Cramer-Shoup' or 'keccak'

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> so do it on the foudnation and donate the needed funds to it. << i guess i could just do that.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> breaks do a body good. << yeah for sure. and i think it totally helps to step back and see the entire forest through the trees.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> every time blockchain counts a new million blocks. << sounds good!

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> well lessee here, one of mod6 ben_vulpes give an opinion on this ? << In relation to the contest? I'm good with Cramer-Shoup.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> make a 4kb key and use it rather than the strange md5 lists or what's that. << RSA too.

mod6: gernika: <+mod6> what does this say `gpg --fingerprint 0xAB07D806D2CE741FB886EE50B025BA8B59C36319` ?

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hoping that mod6 will save you from inclusion arbitrarily is a lot fucking weaker than just having the proper control of only signing in the test branch, and choosing where yhou sign << yah, this may be a really good idea. right now, we're livin on the edge.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404091 << btw how's mining mod6 ? :D << lol ☝︎

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404026 << yes. << somehow mis-remembered this. ☝︎

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> can anyone with thebitcoin.foundation privileges plox redirect http://thebitcoin.foundation/src to http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/ thankee << yup, np. will resolve later today.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 im not even sure we can depend on a notion of "time" for v purposes. << oh yeah 'the last time' is probably a bad choice of words, "the last alteration" or some such.

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2016#1396210 << wouldn't it be logic-er at this point to create a v genesis, and then add to that ? << Well, in short, yes. Just am aiming to get it in a good working condition and well vetted before a 'genesis'. ☝︎

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 why is your v perl implementation named v0001.pl on ml instead of a saner v99996 ? << weird? where do you see that?

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes mod6 if teh esteemed foundation'd give an opinion on http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/ kthx. << I'm reading through the post, must grok.