Framedragger off to bed, looking forward to breakfast in unclear political territory (well when was it ever clear)
mircea_popescu: people in my (and i guess also your) part of the world did a lot of traveling around europe while staying home
mircea_popescu: this is actually romanian. gypsy wanna-be sampled a video of orchestra, put his track on top
mircea_popescu: there's an immense pile of these, they all sound the same, it's a whole subculture.
mircea_popescu: complete with all the sclerotic tissue of say hollywood, reproduced at scale.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually long multiply as squares and sums is not half of a bad idea, because binary processor.
mircea_popescu: and ALSO exactly homomorphic to why i said division doesn't belong in there.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> "open that can!" "Smash that wall!" etc. << heheh
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so you do 4 mults which are iirc 32 cycles each + 3 shifts and 4 additions, for a grand total of ~200
mircea_popescu: well i have nfi. all my memories are clearly from a different era wtf 20mhz
mircea_popescu: i seriously think if one proposed 20mhz people'd have been "you'll asphyxiate going that fast"
mircea_popescu: apparently mos tech actually did the "design" oilpen on paper
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 01:30 asciilifeform: 'Two months later, on October 1st, as an adjunct to Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty, Robert Strange McNamara started inducting into the military men who previously would not have qualified in a million years. He called it Project 100,000 ...'
mircea_popescu: still, how the fuck your lookup is going to be less than 8 cycles, you need 2 to call and 2 to return
mircea_popescu: i'd expect they cut corners, what's the budget for "smartening" a juicer, 15 bux ?
mircea_popescu: they still use the chip, however the hot glue is poured atop ya know.
phf: are we moving tmsr infra to 6502?
phf: i'm sure you've seen cl-6502, and i think there's a compiler from the same guy (or perhaps cl-6502 has a compiler too i don't quite remember)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and from the other perspective, you can have this ensemble in a baloon and solar powered. etc.
mircea_popescu: full spectrum dominance, you know ? "first we fuck up your scamcoin, on ops basis, then you spend all you got to try and prop it somewhere around 70% of what it was, then you try to attack bitcoin on fin basis, we rape you, then..."
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ironically, this was great savings initiative in soviet lands 1970s
BingoBoingo: Gotta get ready for post-China selling shit to all comers
BingoBoingo: If anyone wants a hole hawg now's the time while TTI is still selling them
BingoBoingo: Also it turns out hole hawg actually is carried by Big Box store
☟︎ mircea_popescu: in other lulz, ethereum soft fork just got postponed 15k blocks (~2 days).
☟︎ BingoBoingo: See, if you spam blocks all the time who needs to put spam in the blocks!
mircea_popescu: the problem being more that, of the ~10% miners that voted, the split is about 4:1 in favour. of the rest... well... something more like the reverse.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: phf i thought it was gonna be slotin and his beryllium hemisphere
phf: we're not there yet, but damn close
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 02:05 phf: i'm sure you've seen cl-6502, and i think there's a compiler from the same guy (or perhaps cl-6502 has a compiler too i don't quite remember)
phf: aww, poop. i thought the guy was pretty cool from his nes emulator. usually the emulator types like to bit twiddle
phf: how do you even regex an emulator!
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 02:14 BingoBoingo: Also it turns out hole hawg actually is carried by Big Box store
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well actual one prolly requires Ebay. The new ones are made in China since TTI bought Milwauke
phf: i suspect those guys wear shoes that don't fall apart after three years either
BingoBoingo: Still to come, which is why buy now before aluminum horror
BingoBoingo: Likely will happen when China decides copper is a strategic good
BingoBoingo: Although the Chicoms now make a lot of the small petrol motors too
phf: sort of like if you were to show a picture of a girl at a gulag discussion will be about how she looks like she eats, swiftly moving into what she might've eaten that morning
phf: if one were to believe shalamov
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 02:19 mircea_popescu: the problem being more that, of the ~10% miners that voted, the split is about 4:1 in favour. of the rest... well... something more like the reverse.
mircea_popescu: da fuck anyone knows what goes on through the bright heads that can't light bulbs of us stem unis.
mircea_popescu: this is one of those situations when enema is supposed to show up with 200 tanks and 5k infantry, shows up with three jeeps and two dozen streetwalkers instead. everyone just looks around in embarassment
phf: are there any 6502 computer designs where you have multiple of them sitting on same bus or talking to same memory
☟︎ phf is talking out of ass
mircea_popescu: large pile of sram with a bunch of 6502s around it would make a pretty interesting parallel thing
trinque: sorta like the greenarrays thing?
phf: yeah, i had greenarrays in my original message, but somehow i lost it in edits
phf: afaik greenarrays don't have shared state and talk through neighbors, connection machine style. i was thinking, like mp said, just have them sit on shared memory
mircea_popescu: especially as you could make a really large pile of ram
mircea_popescu: honestly if i wanted to make a "human brain model" it'd be something like this, 10k chips sitting around 10 GB worth of ram and talking into it dirtily.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: 3.5k transistors is actually not a bad model for a neuron, as bugpowder may perhaps attest.
phf: this is roughly how the argument went in the connection machine book, but of course they didn't have access to large enough rams to make it shared
☟︎ BingoBoingo: In other news corn is looking good, some field are showing visible soybeans. Been a while since honest rain befell this region.
BingoBoingo: In still other news with 46.3% Reporting "Leave" has 51.4% of the vote
trinque: it's been up about 500k since I've been watching
BingoBoingo: Less than half counted, but win is winning
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 02:40 phf: are there any 6502 computer designs where you have multiple of them sitting on same bus or talking to same memory
phf: actually, i'm ok waiting, i think i'm going to build one of those computers on a board in the next few months just to get an idea of what connects where
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 02:50 mircea_popescu: honestly if i wanted to make a "human brain model" it'd be something like this, 10k chips sitting around 10 GB worth of ram and talking into it dirtily.
phf: i picked up "third printing" in portland, in that big bookstore of theirs
phf: no, he was pretty upset at me for it
phf: i was in portland proper an evening, after a hippie retreat, got it in my head that a meeting with a tmsr member needs proper exposition, etc.
phf: in any case it wasn't portland, i picked it up at a random bookstore in french quarter new orleans. between a tourist bar and a place that sold "vintage stuff" they had a bookstore with an amazing collection of random books
phf: they had a bunch of appel books there, mead's introduction to vlsi, a bunch of old common lisp books, 80s expert system books, etc.
phf: but it was a very odd setting, i was hungover like crazy, stumbling around with other throngs of tourists
trinque: leave up by 700k; this is great.
trinque: you leave me to my dreams of hypernationalist war
BingoBoingo can't wait for when Britain has no one mobile enough to hand over its rag on a stick!
BingoBoingo: Fucking Brits will be stuck with no alternative but to wafflestomp!
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deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 0 by 0 connections.
BingoBoingo: phf: Party is on pause. Can't let BTC look too much better than ether huffing, so Buttfunex has to have some butt fun
trinque: thestringpuller: that is an unperson per db
trinque: $gettrust deedbot pleasurep"
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 0 by 0 connections.
thestringpuller: well for instance nubbins was nubbins` but is now nubbins"
Bugpowder: ITV CALLS IT: LEAVE HAS WON THE EU REFERENDUM
Bugpowder: The gov isn’t really going to do it tho right? Non-binding…
☟︎ trinque: thestringpuller: yeah this is fucked up; I have the original data for it all, so I'll fix tomorrow
trinque: happened somewhere from mysql -> psql
trinque: I'll just shit out another dump after fixing it
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 03:00 phf: this is roughly how the argument went in the connection machine book, but of course they didn't have access to large enough rams to make it shared
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 03:07 asciilifeform: because that's what i got here
mircea_popescu: flywheel / time switched connections being an obvious one.
mircea_popescu: not like he'd have existed if there wasn't a usg.pd around. or a usg in the first place.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-24 03:37 Bugpowder: The gov isn’t really going to do it tho right? Non-binding…
mircea_popescu: prolly govt collapse, elections, a few years w/o govt belgium style, stuff like that.
mircea_popescu: it's just about all over, there's maybe a coupla million left to vote.
BingoBoingo: Leave's advantage over remain is approaching 1 million votes with 14.7% of ballots yet to be reported
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you qntraing this or we dont' gas enough ?
BingoBoingo: Qntra'ing in a few hours after sleeping. There's still enough votes left for Diebold to happen.
BingoBoingo: Anyways gotta see how this could be handled after yesterday "Remain" was so certain
mircea_popescu: by now "the powers that wanna-be" are getting raped at random street corners by random passers by.
mircea_popescu: whole "gavin got consensus" "trump don't got a chance" bla bla all over again.
BingoBoingo: I can't wait for the immigrants they have now to get fat and them to stick with the no new immigrants schtick
BingoBoingo: It'll be the non-Argentina US failure mode
BingoBoingo: Trash build up, everyone has boils. No one can clean the waffle stomped showers.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im writing up teh orlando shooting if it please teh qntra
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i hope (for personal reasons) GBP rebounds to some extent in the days/weeks to come. also looking forward to independent scotland now :)
mircea_popescu: (in other news, everyone i knew in england left since yest.)
mircea_popescu: i don't see how the uk is going to have a government other than bnp or w/e they're called this year.
mircea_popescu: (also i don't see how anyone seriously imagines hilary stands a chance, but that's another matter)
Framedragger: yeah it's gonna be fucked. also some more shite PM instead of cameron
mircea_popescu: the one going around in homecroched jerseys and playing everyone's grandmother
mircea_popescu: one'd have to be an idiot to take that mandate, but i guess there's never shortage of idiots.
Framedragger: heh irc client crashed, maybe with the mention of theresa's name
Framedragger: yeah no more internets with her, not that uk currently has an uncensored open internet
Framedragger: and yeah, all the bilateral agreements to be done.. by whom.. fuck knows. (my plan was to switch countries in a ~year anyway, looks like i'll stick to it)
mircea_popescu: o right right, "ukraine forum on asset recovery", the usg-sponsored "let's steal shit" argentina-style thing
mircea_popescu: funny what crap the uk keeps pushing forth, too. you'd have thought it'd take them more than a decade to come up with a worse sack of shit than blair. not so, they found him by 2010.
mircea_popescu: they really should be the 51st state ; same thing in the us - people thought it'd take a lot longer to find someone even dumber and less capable than bush. and yet...
mircea_popescu: anyway. without taxing london the eu is not sustainable. this is a foregone conclusion. i'm curious what the germans do, but the eu has little chance of seeing 2020.
Framedragger: it really is all about the germans now and what they do, i suppose, yeah. i wouldn't think that taxing london is *that* important though, and in any regard uk trading with eu is more important to uk than to eu, it would appear. but sure, shit's gonna go down, will be interesting to follow.
mircea_popescu: in the reverse, while some ru capitals may flow in (much less likely today, after the inept uk support for the cyprus theft than it would have been prior), the outflow of continental moneys might well drive a 50% failure rate in the city.
mircea_popescu: oh, you meant... yeah. well, the thing is, trade isn't today and hasn't for a century+ been national. corporations trade, on mostly south asian shipping, with each other.
mircea_popescu: some will repatriate, some others will move in, but on the net it seems likely to come out negative by a coupla trillion or so.
Framedragger: yeah i don't know how to classify "general b2b stuff"
mircea_popescu: anyway. the czechs are leaving also, possibly the dutch too. the french will aggitate moar ; spain still wants gibraltar, and catalonia independence is suddenly an important chip in thsi discussion, etc etc.
Framedragger: i wonder. in times of uncertainty, investors move money elsewhere. say eu continues to crumble down, with states threatening to leave / leaving, euro going down. could gbp be eventually seen as a "foreign stable thing" in europe? my bets are that it won't; but it'd be a curious outcome
mircea_popescu: the gpb/any hope or chance of true british independence was sunk by soros.
mircea_popescu: the uk has as much a chance today to be the uk of 1816 as the state of indiana does.
mircea_popescu: it's all a question of "who picks up the upset streetwalker who still, inexplicably, thinks herself a married middle class woman". will it be the paki gang ? the x ? the y ?
mircea_popescu: there's no question she's going to be working. the only question is what basement will she be working in.
Framedragger: well this woman deserves nothing but the basement treatment, so!
mircea_popescu: but hey, since it's what she'll get, we can say it's what she deserves at no extra cost.
mircea_popescu: but the best part - the french will finally get to try their "louis XIVth lives!" notions of command economy in the eu. it should be fucking fabulous.
Framedragger: oh yeah, i'm sure there's that sentiment, prevailing
Framedragger: am at work, there's someone openly swearing about boris johnson downstairs (it's usually rather quiet)
Framedragger: ..and i wonder about trump and teh republicans
mircea_popescu: "well, you got a nigger elected, now get lost" sorta thing. "well, we're going out of the eu, so who were you again ?"
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i think trump actually intends to end the gop if he wins.
Framedragger: i can certainly see it! as in, intentional project and everything.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, the most incomprehensible part of it to me is, how the fuck would he not be putting pressure on the voting mechanism. if he had any sense his ~only issue wouldf be "paper trail voting or no voting at all". that he isn't doing this is perhaps the stronger support for alf's read of the facts.
mircea_popescu: then again, maybe it's slated for a little later. fuckall knows.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: need to read logs, then. so what's the idea behind him needing paper trail, and what does that mean?
mircea_popescu: well, trail-less vote is much like "poloniex" or whatever : will print as a "result" whatever number the owner gives it.
mircea_popescu: 100% victory for Nicolae Ceausescu, why not. oh, he's dead ? a well.
mircea_popescu: besides the point. specificity of diddling obliges him to modify election mechanism.
mircea_popescu: it's a matter of strategy, not of engineering. these are separate concerns.
mircea_popescu: not to mention how expedient it is for him. it is LOGICAL that it'd be a single issue ; it's a forced mistake hilary & all will oppose. he can now speak of only one thing, which is what he needs, and avoid hilary on all topics, which he also needs.
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only way to play his hand correctly, i see no alternative.
mircea_popescu: the game is played like the game is played, if he's going to believe what you say he has no business being in politics.
mircea_popescu: mind that if it disconnects and reconnects it'll get ops by default and start over.
mod6: what's interesting about deedbot is that it spit that stuff out mostly @ ~5/min interval. but sometimes it did it ~10/min. at least by my timestamps.
mircea_popescu:
https://archive.is/UScxs << oh look, now that they got scared into actually doing some code auditing by the half billion in losses the usg accrued in one short week, they're finding things!
mircea_popescu: "Do not use wallet contracts or owner accounts of those wallets that were created by the Ethereum Wallet 0.4.0 or earlier. If you send to (or interact with) a malicious contract it could take ownership of your wallet contract. Create a new wallet and move your funds."
mircea_popescu: mod6 it spit out the whole list every time phuctor had a new item i thought
mod6: Yeah, something like that. I see it spit out a Phuctoring from 'Tony Lindgren', the top three qntras then the top four trilema's. But yeah, may have been triggered by new phuctorings - but the RSS feed didn't seem to update.
mircea_popescu: it's so cool to go read your article recently published in qntra :D
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo <em> tag not correctly closed after 1st soi dissant ?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> cameron's career is definitely over. << spot on.
mod6: thestringpuller: "bury" ?
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell shinohai Too much puffing and making the scammers see viable, rewrite
BingoBoingo: shinohai: News, but gotta be serious when using words like resurection
shinohai: kk BingoBoingo && too much puffing?
BingoBoingo: You know making the scam thing sound like it has a chance
thestringpuller: "For things like CSV and Segwit-- The node doesn't understand the new rules, but it knows it doesn't understand them (due to tx version number for CSV, and the NOP code usage for SW; both explicit soft-fork upgrade mechanisms in the protocol*)... this is already the case today and has been since 2010, you didn't need to upgrade to teach your node what it doesn't know.
thestringpuller: If your wallet wanted to it could go further trace these coins and delay treating them and their descendants as confirmed until the last non-understood part was buried beyond some sufficient threshold, it's simple to implement in a full node wallet (we do tracking like that for 'negative confirmations' for conflicted transactions in core now), but so far no one has seen a reason to beyond the basic, "ignore until confirmed" behavior.
shinohai: BingoBoingo: i was going to refer to it as a mere blip since only 1K blocks
thestringpuller: mod6: I was just saying if there would be a way to bury "bastard transactions" (this include multisig), under some threshold of transactions before confirmation.
mircea_popescu: prolly more efficient to simply blacklist / ban any customers that use the crud.
mircea_popescu: many layers to a soft fork. i personally will take any attempt to use any of this crap as an attempt to scam and negrate consequently.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller so ? not every idiot must have access.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Still gotta poke more holes in the VERified scammers. Needle em with words.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: would this be similar policy to any coin that's gone into a "3" bastard address?
thestringpuller: ah. but with segwit coins TRB should treat coins as if they are burned?
mircea_popescu: i don't see trb should do anything. i also don't see why any sane person would continue dealing with any entity using it.
thestringpuller: that is someone pays to segwit address, even if coins leave segwit address and are use normally, they are now "lost forever" cause they've "tainted"
trinque: Python sqlite3 issues a BEGIN statement automatically before "INSERT" or "UPDATE". After that it automatically commits on any other command or db.close()
mircea_popescu: you know the joke with the husband at the psychiatrist ?
mircea_popescu: guy goes to psychiatrist, "doc, i need you to convince my wife to get mouth reduction surgery"
thestringpuller: okay. so lets say Segwitz address starts with 'P00'. you send 1 BTC from a standard address as inputs into the segitz address. the segwitz address now spends back to a standard address. but the way it spends is with non-standard opcodes, so called "bastard unspent outputs". so it spends to a real btc address "1something". When TRB validates it's the chain of tx's it'll encounter the segwit part as NO_OP. Should we just bury these coi
mircea_popescu: "she won't ever shut up. not ever. she talks constantly. so i dropped my pants and stuffed my cock in her mouth.
thestringpuller: cause there is no way TRB will ever enforce segwit, so there is no way it can ever truly verify a segwit output was spent "legitimately"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller the derp in question can just spend again normally and his coins will be visible.
mircea_popescu: trb has no notion of "coin history". nor should it. because taint is not a thing.
thestringpuller: gotcha. just never have anyone spend to your from a fake address.
mircea_popescu: moreover, there ISNT, in general, and for very good reasons, a way to verify segwit crapolade.
mircea_popescu: which is what it aims to be, a sort of "let's dao bitcoin"
thestringpuller: gotcha. thanks for clarity. mod6 ^^^ nvm question has been answered.
mircea_popescu: but this said, yes it is deeply irresponsible for anyone to use prb clients. this doesn't just mean 13, or 12, or 10. ANY of them.
mircea_popescu: they keep adding shit, but it's been shitsoup for years now.
mod6: thestringpuller: np.
mod6: if we needed to add code everytime these gnomes comeup with a new crapolade, that's all we'd ever be doing.
☟︎☟︎ thestringpuller: i just don't want them to add something in a "fork" that allows TMSR to get scammed.
mircea_popescu: mod6 the main concern is that their bullshit will "accidentally" start fabricating coins.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, we're not making the mistake of introducing coin taint, under any name.
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: From what I understand Segwit to a normal 1xxx adress requires a signature in the blockchain so when segwit stops being miner enforced the recieved transaction would still be, even though it came from freemoneyshitsoup.
mircea_popescu: yeah, except the next stop is for shitsoup to put out more coins than it got in.
☟︎ mod6: <+mircea_popescu> nevertheless, we're not making the mistake of introducing coin taint, under any name. << totally agree.
trinque: helpful helpers in python were starting transactions for me even though the default for sqlite is autocommit
thestringpuller: trinque: any reason ratings are done by nick and not a foreign key?
thestringpuller: i guess the nicks act as a foreign key cause under unique constraint and one per person...
trinque: just easier to look at, and it's not a big table
trinque: but I will at some point either change that or abandon sql entirely for a CLOS db
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski pingback mystery solved : your blog is at 23.229.239.2, but you keep sending pingbacks from 50.62.176.244. Trilema responds with a "please send pingbacks from the blog's own IP" as discussed in
http://trilema.com/2014/o-hai-let-me-verify-your-identity/ which you're supposed to see and know why it is your pingbacks don't make it.
mod6: this the line you were looking for? (14:55) <+thestringpuller> TMSR rule of thumb: "Never accept non standard transactions" ?
mircea_popescu: the "all business" and entirely "scientific" world turns out to be mostly the favourite lie of the sort of people who don't wish their stupid ideology discussed.
mircea_popescu: gah, wait for the thing to show up, i can't follow like this
mircea_popescu: all these "jounalist" derps ranting on about how "uk shocks the world" and "nobody could have predicted" bla bla on the basis that their fucking predictions had been deliberate lies to try and influence the unavoidable.
mircea_popescu: sit the fuck down, nobody's shocked and moreover nobody cares about the "mainstream" / powers that wanna-be blabla.
mircea_popescu: (btw, obama actually went to london to try and prevent things. he... failed. but by now obama failing at whatever he's trying is pretty much us policy, so not particularly worht the mention)
mircea_popescu: lol. after brexit, time for grexit, departugal, italeave, czechout, finish, oustria, latervia and finally byegium
hanbot: so then what's left, remainia?
mircea_popescu: aaanyway. germany is looking at something like 3bn euro more per year (20% over it's current ~15bn) to pay ; and of course moldovia, the battered ruins of ukraine, albania and all sorts of other dry leeches all want in
mod6: <+hanbot> departugal ftw hahaha << lol
mod6: ref: (14:57) <+mod6> if we needed to add code everytime these gnomes comeup with a new crapolade, that's all we'd ever be doing.
mod6: So, we talked about this. At length.
mod6: and when i say 'we talked about this', I mean the high-S/low-S thing. ultimately we decided to give the operator the utility to specify which to use / or none, if they want their thing to be diddled.
mod6: and we're still at a point where it's a leaf, so if it is decided that we ditch that as a "blessed" utility or necessary change, then we ditch and we don't have to do anything else.
mod6: mno. i disagree. at the time, Mr. P. was having trouble sending transactions. We want people to have the control to ensure their transaction is relayed, undiddled.
mod6: i agree that about the legitimancy being the same across high/low -- but the rest of the network diddles.
mod6: so. if i have a coin, i want to ensure that it gets sent.
mod6: ok. so is this a 20/20 type of reflection here?
mod6: im confused about why you're saying this now, as opposed to saying "we should be able to specify either!"
mod6: because initially, i wanted to simply just do low-S
mod6: this is not how that conversation went.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> mod6: nope. i said at the time that it was a Bad Idea, and for same reason - emboldened the ratfuckers << eh, not really how this works.
mircea_popescu: this is not how it works, "emboldening" whatever. moreover, the implemented solution was correct : when there's ambigous behaviour IN THE PROTOCOL, this has to be exposed TO THE USER. it has been.
mircea_popescu: besides the point. when there's ambiguity in design, this is to be exposed to user.
mircea_popescu: i get it that "there not being ambiguity in design" would be better. nevertheless, what would be better is not related to what is.
mircea_popescu: the fact is, the function sign(message) did not yield a single valid output. but two.
mircea_popescu: this is because bitcoin was made by the ducks, sure, but still is what it is.
mircea_popescu: well you could see it then, too, just i guess meanwhile forgot ? anyway, there's a reason we did what we did and still as good now as then.
mircea_popescu: eh, there's no such "at the instigation" bla bla. we fixed something that had to be fixed, and we fixed it correctly. big whoop.
mircea_popescu: you can still send it. just, likely, they'll malleate it pre-mining it.
mircea_popescu: the cost of malleation is ~0, as long as you include a fee it suits someone
mircea_popescu: (once someone does it, whether they mine a block or not is irrelevant, tx now in mempool)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> there are other, similar ambiguities - sigs end in whatever odd number, say << Original effort at sig enforcement was "even-s" around prb 0.9 deliberations before "low-s" was chosen
Bugpowder: Some of you guys were talking about the 6502 right?
Bugpowder: its pretty funny from the neuroscience perspective
Bugpowder: uses all these common neuroscience tools to try to understand the 6502
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess i'll have to get my pdf decoder ring later an see what's in there
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Bugpowder: It speaks more to the defecits in our analytical tools we use to study neural circuits.
Bugpowder: Suggests maybe we should develop tools that would allow reverse engineering the microprocessor and translate these tools to neural circuits.
Bugpowder: Search projectreporter.nih.gov for “neural circuits” grants in 2015… There were 1695 results matching your search criteria.
BingoBoingo: Headlol of the day: "Embattled Whiteness Gave Us Brexit. It Won’t Give Us President Trump"
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