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jurov: in other news from russia, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i63cgUeSsY0
assbot: LITTLE BIG - BIG DICK - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1TdT5is )
jurov: !up pussyfreak
jurov: pussyfreak: pussy or gtfo ☟︎
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.punkman.2:8837d14c548ebdf68c7a4e63aaccf70e9193437adba910ba4d1cac344322f2e4
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for punkman from 1 to 2 with note: Development for TRB.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.tomservo.2:a1dd9a1349396fd979814b2bee0aa538a1a92c33156b1943435fb2f847a9337c
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for tomservo from 1 to 2 with note: Built TRB node.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.thestringpuller.3:dd385b5f642e94a8d590a76f17544af687292c0255ed0bedc2d9de43cace1e55
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for thestringpuller from 2 to 3 with note: Helped test TRB.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.kakobrekla.3:f2c03e62e7e9f568aa113ee30a0151245e3e909477bb23a70a528d92e4d8f147
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for kakobrekla from 2 to 3 with note: assbot, #b-a, BitBet.
shinohai: o/ pussyfreak
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.asciilifeform.4:8e150e7cf634c7b2740e4458ae06d3b1c158f34b999b70c1954e184747d7525f
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for asciilifeform from 3 to 4 with note: Many arms. Outstanding work on The Bitcoin Foundation.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.trinque.3:31cb4cad4f5998532501f9d12b66bb7665b131b4bec63497daab66203ec3e47d
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for trinque from 2 to 3 with note: deedbot. Great work testing & Development for TRB.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.pete_dushenski.2:749b964df90c174897a527e519c215abf1c0b9533284dd606b60ff9ff3d321f6
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for pete_dushenski from 1 to 2 with note: Built TRB node & helps test. Runs contravex.com a TMSR related blog.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.gernika.1:eeca7591d0cfb43c9a69d806d5ccc0126c2692cf72f3219e23bdb866b6e1872b
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for gernika with note: Nice work testing TRB & V.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.ben_vulpes.5:dcede2b704f584b4b676ece0086b930701f4c8164ed03b908c92a955abea048c
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for ben_vulpes from 4 to 5 with note: The Bitcoin Foundation Co-Chair
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.shinohai.2:f6a1d18c4edd4d5d131cd4aa14de8e3bf70b7905f94a41da72cdb868b3932ae7
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for shinohai from 1 to 2 with note: Very responsive and helpful testing of TRB & V.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.phf.1:17065042ddd310a621707cca7f13724870eb3e841d87c6fc751a893096622ae6
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for phf with note: Nice development work on TRB.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.hanbot.4:31528d0c57e75969cfdf63a7e3708cd30486bbd41ff6683b502105e73b1edb74
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for hanbot from 3 to 4 with note: Wonderful help testing TRB.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.funkenstein_.2:86362f322be014f6beab010b2e26bcd221853f6634af88a22333f4ec8eacf094
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for funkenstein_ from 1 to 2 with note: Testing & Development of TRB.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.bingoboingo.1:1e09a8db65100757db37af2db041277edb4a290c7f950d32ea24edf964a4715d
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for bingoboingo with note: Qntra
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.peterl.1:796c27aceaeff6cbfb28650bcc5faa004902ea4a50032d45fea1bd1a1f1a3b57
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for peterl with note: Built TRB node.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.danielpbarron.2:c0d41af2c7652809a6b0337a0977af937ec4c1057bd83fb72e7ce99364fb13af
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for danielpbarron from 1 to 2 with note: Eulorian. Nice help testing TRB & b-a wiki.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.diana_coman.2:5a1bd608ade6adb03df95a4528b07b48d47bab34333756c8107d76ff18cd2def ☟︎☟︎
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for diana_coman from 1 to 2 with note: Eulorian. Great work on FoxyBot.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.jurov.4:b7f1717022980331e564e975e547c6d239f44a44e74770f688ea22f7e2f8f5f6
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for jurov from 3 to 4 with note: Great work for The Bitcoin Foundation.
shinohai: \o/
mod6: *whew*
jurov: ! bash 99
jurov: jkjk
kakobrekla: it appears 15 min is enough actually :D
mod6: "are you sure you want to paste 18 lines?" "mhmm"
mod6: i got my otp's from assbot in pm @ exactly 00:00
mod6: took me ~12 minutes and i went as fast as I could.
kakobrekla: 15>12
mod6: included a script too.
mod6: anyway. no worries.
jurov: yo, assbot likes it fast
shinohai: It proves assbot is a robust one
kakobrekla: lulz
mod6: lol @ jurov
kakobrekla: but seriously i can make it go slower if theres an actual need for this
mod6: i think ~normally~ 15 minutes is probably plenty. but for me, i wait a while before updating ratings, so trying to do a pile of them at once isn't a good idea.
mod6: i should break it up, and do them in chunks
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403766 << no, reserved for black people, teenagers and women now. actual achievement is oppressive. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 18:35:32; funkenstein_: it matches my unverified simulations. can i haz noble prize?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403767 <<< prev rating was a - ftr. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 18:35:57; ben_vulpes: what'd adlai do this time? i didn't see anything notably lulzy in the logs...
ben_vulpes: assumptions are showing
ben_vulpes: mine, that is
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403778 << wtf bs is that. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 18:42:51; assbot: Transparent EMI/RFI/EMC shielded windows/displays and foils ... ( http://bit.ly/20ZzTI9 )
mircea_popescu: lcd screen recalibrating quantum magnets for less gasoline consumption, same place ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403785 << the lulziest part there is that there's this entire subculture of tor punks. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 18:48:33; mats: even better when you remember the tor browser bundle is built on top of firefox
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403791 << i would expect all of the sandvaginated area. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 19:26:26; mats: I wonder how many pieces of the eu/eurozone will be part of the caliphate in a few decades
mircea_popescu: spain, france, the south of england, "italy" whatever that means, western austria, southwestern germany etc.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403793 << arabs do not care for the cold. russia exists as a going concern principally for this reason. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 19:28:23; BingoBoingo: Probably the nordic ones mostly.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403797 << sorry about that. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 20:01:25; jurov: mircea_popescu: mpex proxy has time skew -4 hours, causing havoc
mircea_popescu: in other news, why is princessnell bombing inept douches off medium in here ?
mircea_popescu: if you're going to link whores, please a) no traps ; b) pictures not words and c) tits on display at a minimum.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403836 << well in a world where gawker pays one stick of bubblegum per piece, it's a hard argument to make. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 21:33:21; princessnell: i say it's worth more
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403847 << tmsr. not only spending on deficit, but also saving millions on other people's [mostly mental] deficits. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 21:51:21; ben_vulpes: "If we add up the value of the hours spent on it, we’re in the tens, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars." << not me, not anyone here. lookee at how much we've saved by not giving any credence at all to the brain damage!
jurov: mircea_popescu: it gets weirder, that proxy reports unix time normally, and humanreadable time 4 hrs off
jurov: in statjson output
mircea_popescu: jurov human readable time is a mess sadly.
mircea_popescu: this is of course not my fault. and fixing it is not trivial. and so on.
mircea_popescu: but... working on it.
mircea_popescu: https://i.imgur.com/3Gg3Y2q.jpg <<< i wish to donate a hundred lashes, where can i ?
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KfVl7w )
punkman: what's so special about human-readable
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403870 << hm why does she sound like you touched a nerve ?! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 22:10:15; princessnell: wow! :D congrats, that is amazing! i am so happy for you
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403885 << "we haven't learned anything from the previous beating and pledge to continue as before. because we really enjoy taking beatings." ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 22:15:37; asciilifeform: '1). Make a decision to let go of the past technical issues. We don’t care whose fault it was, who broke protocol, who harmed who’s feelings or egos, who lied or who was technically or morally wrong. The time has come to move on. We can start fresh and work together to prevent or react to any new human issues.' << ahahahah pure gold
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i suppose some do. the wall ain't going anywhere, so by all means.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403935 << i wonder if i can do this via trilema. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 22:57:12; jurov: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/12/setting-the-date-to-1-january-1970-will-brick-your-iphone-ipad-or-ipod-touch dat infrastruxture
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404011 << i thought your kid was a yearling ?! he speaks ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 23:27:46; *: pete_dushenski is very guilty of giving voice and personality to le petit monsieur. it's too fun not to!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404020 << in fairness it was because i left the lasrt character out. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 23:30:17; shinohai: ^happend to mp last night
ben_vulpes: mine just started responding to ripping paper in half
ben_vulpes: turn one thing into two, merriment ensues
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404026 << yes. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 23:31:12; mod6: no way really?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's a pretty good trick! give him spaghetti too
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404040 << they hafta expire ffs. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 23:37:47; jurov: dunno why is kako so paranoid. next thing, submit too fast, get banned.
ben_vulpes: hah i'll definitely try that
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404044 << no it's good. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 23:39:35; kakobrekla: noone complained, yet.
ben_vulpes: i think he really enjoys the ripping noise too
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404119 << claims to be fine nickel (?) mesh in plastic film ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 00:55:37; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403778 << wtf bs is that.
asciilifeform: i'm about to buy various, test...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the finer the mesh, the worse the result.
mircea_popescu: and if you're going to do fine, who the fuck does nickel.
asciilifeform: depends on freq
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404121 << yes apparently there is this whole subculture of rf 'allergy' crackpots ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 00:56:02; mircea_popescu: lcd screen recalibrating quantum magnets for less gasoline consumption, same place ?
mircea_popescu: i don't have the curves in my head, but i am still willing to bet nickel does not shine in any range
asciilifeform: cost.
mircea_popescu: eh gtfo, fine mesh.
mircea_popescu: 0.1g platinum is cheaper than whatever that retails for.
asciilifeform: woven in film?!
mircea_popescu: i imagine they print it.
mircea_popescu: but yes. because nothing is as ductile as gold/platinum/lead etc.
mircea_popescu: 1g of gold is what, 1 sq m by hand ?
asciilifeform: then perforate with laser...
asciilifeform: fuck mesh
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: actually, i would expect either indium or thalium would be what you would want on the basis of em considerations.
asciilifeform: but i wanna measure the extant crud
mircea_popescu: please do.
asciilifeform: waiwut??!
asciilifeform: thallium??!
asciilifeform: why
mircea_popescu: because immense excitation cross-section ?
mircea_popescu: esp to low energy electrons
asciilifeform: conductivity is normally what you want in a shield
asciilifeform bbl
mircea_popescu: i would expect, on the basis of sheer guesswork, that if you want to make fine mesh shields as opposed to a traditional, 2mm thick cage, that you would want various quantum and other side effects ratgher than straight conductivity.
mircea_popescu: because of the fucking impedance in thin fillaments and other considerations, your shit will never work as a straight conductor. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and for stuff like electron drift velocity, thallium is up there with fucking mercury.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404057 << i didn't know you swung that way! ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 00:05:30; jurov: pussyfreak: pussy or gtfo
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404091 << btw how's mining mod6 ? :D ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 00:11:21; mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.diana_coman.2:5a1bd608ade6adb03df95a4528b07b48d47bab34333756c8107d76ff18cd2def
mircea_popescu: in very scary fucking news that will scar you for the rest of the day, so don't look! http://45.media.tumblr.com/3df51e27518fa30b33762a529d9fdad1/tumblr_noajqyXfXP1uu92gho1_400.gif
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RxAcHy )
mod6: bath time!
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404026 << yes. << somehow mis-remembered this. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 23:31:12; mod6: no way really?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404091 << btw how's mining mod6 ? :D << lol ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 00:11:21; mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.diana_coman.2:5a1bd608ade6adb03df95a4528b07b48d47bab34333756c8107d76ff18cd2def
mircea_popescu: you know they found the actual mining skill
mod6: really?
mircea_popescu: yea
mircea_popescu: i paid 2mn for one.
mod6: i miss playing. i gotta get back in there one of these times.
mircea_popescu: diana has them
mod6: cool
mircea_popescu: it's not too bad with the foxybot, can go the whole day on 10 minute's attention
mod6: that's great actually. i should just set-it-and-forget-it.
mircea_popescu: i do a lot of that. set it to do say 30 suspect ointments, it's good for 20 hours
punkman: speaking of shields https://github.com/kristinpaget/GuardBunny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGcykuhfcQA
assbot: GitHub - kristinpaget/GuardBunny: Files for GuardBunny, an RFID shield presented at Shmoocon 2016 ... ( http://bit.ly/1PIqgGt )
assbot: Be Free Little Guardbunny [ShmooCon 2016] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1PIqgGv )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74417 @ 0.00055969 = 41.6505 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: mircea_popescu: ya, i should just load up on tools and threads, etc. and just let it rip.
mod6: ;;seen mike_c
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, 33 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <mike_c> let's get that thing out the door and get alf some goddamn bitcoin already
mod6: !rated mike_c
assbot: You rated user mike_c on 10-Aug-2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: Met IRL, runs btcalpha.com, built new WoT tool.
mod6 rubs eyes
mod6: 2014?
mod6: i thought it was last year
mod6: ooh maybe the original rating date is preseved.
mod6: did mod6 lose a whole year
mod6: ?
mod6: naw, it was 2015. lucky.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker. this box keeps shutting down bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: anyone ever saw a process get ended after you disconnect a nohup session ?! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: pos doesn't have tmux either
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu is using `nohup $cmd &`, yes?
mircea_popescu: uh no &
mircea_popescu: what's & again ?
mod6: i typically only do `&', w/o nohup
ben_vulpes: fork to bg
asciilifeform: ^
mircea_popescu: uh isn't that spurious if explicit nohum ?
punkman: is daemon mode advised against?
ben_vulpes: nope
mircea_popescu: heh mkay
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: why does nohup not protect against terminal exiting without the fork?
mircea_popescu: "blocks" : 382218, other one's almopst there
mircea_popescu: ;;height
gribble: Error: "height" is not a valid command.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: doesn't actually detach from tty unless you fork
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats
asciilifeform: ask it, not me
gribble: Current Blocks: 398169 | Current Difficulty: 1.4411644784734866E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 399167 | Next Difficulty In: 998 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 21 hours, 43 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: "errors" : "EXCEPTION: St12out_of_range \nCInv::GetCommand() : type=3 unknown type \nbitcoin in ProcessMessage() \n" << heh heh
asciilifeform: waitasec
asciilifeform: is this without malleus ?
mircea_popescu: this is 99996
ben_vulpes: not answering the q lol
asciilifeform: that's a v ver
asciilifeform: not trb
asciilifeform: which ~trb~ mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: what'd you expect me to say ?
mod6: must be the one he built with build-bitcoind-V99996.sh or whatever.
asciilifeform: i mean, you pressed it, no ?
mircea_popescu: ^
ben_vulpes: 0 or 1
ben_vulpes: aha whatever fires v must present a head to press
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu is running bitcoinds with mystery patchlists!
ben_vulpes: heresy
mircea_popescu: if you wish i can provide a file hash
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no, i control the wot.
ben_vulpes: tis your skin not mine
mod6: which btw, we need to update that build script.
mircea_popescu: that's all i wish to do.
mircea_popescu: and it WILL be your skin if this process gets me in trouble.
mircea_popescu: you've been warned, not only throughout, but at the outset. THIS is what it is all for.
ben_vulpes: and i warn you back to not run bitcoinds pressed of v whose heads you do not know!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is using the knobs as they were intended to be used.
mircea_popescu: fully expect - ratings if your presence in my .wot dir causes my bitcoin to die.
asciilifeform: but, possibly embarrassingly, i don't presently know if mod6's v actually climbs the latest branches of all present keys
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also remember that there are ~two~ knobs, meant to be used in unison - wot and patches.
asciilifeform: as presently extant, you can't pile on the latter unthinkingly and drive solely using former.
mircea_popescu: jus' making a point.
asciilifeform: and i wanted to make another, re: how driving solely with wot at present time is rather like steering a bus using solely the brake pedal.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "build-bitcoind-v99996.sh" is the sole knob mircea_popescu cares to use
asciilifeform: and here i find that i don't even have a copy of this.
mircea_popescu: heh.
asciilifeform: so i cannot say whether he pressed with malleus.
ben_vulpes: nor i
mircea_popescu: if not for plurality... we'd be driving buses with no brake pedals whatsoever
mircea_popescu: next stop, power range.
mircea_popescu: spew out a file hash i'll give you mine.
mod6: when he built it, it ~should~ have included your original malleus patch, see: ./v.pl p verbose rotor/TEST2 asciilifeform_malleus_mikehearnificarum.vpatch
mod6: however, that's been out of date since I re-ground those recent patches.
mod6: but again, shouldn't effect Mr. P. since he did all of this before the regrind.
mircea_popescu: mod6 seeing how the node is almost caught up i'd say it's 3 weeks old
ben_vulpes: such a very stateful ritual, this
mod6: ok
ben_vulpes: my mind recoils at the notion of running a reference implementation compiled without knowing the patchlist going into it
asciilifeform: ^
mircea_popescu: trust people, not code. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i couldn't care less what goes into it.
ben_vulpes: mod6's scripts are code!
mod6: mircea_popescu: what's your sha512 of main.cpp?
ben_vulpes: yes mod6's scripts are excellent, use them!
mircea_popescu: a happy man is one who never went into the sausage factory.
punkman: people will submit patches that include crossbone banner
asciilifeform: ^
mircea_popescu: mod6 92038390413f77b55e19439738e87c21bd5b2313dc6edad78bcc8bf722dde82623a31a56a87b0182e75e6824fc709dc216fb9cb159b49a16e212e3a5ded93f58 main.cpp
mircea_popescu: and ftr i misspelled it mod.cpp first
mod6: heheh
mircea_popescu: punkman and they won't make it in a foundation release.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: file hash alone does not specify which patch to which you pressed.
mircea_popescu: tough!
mod6: huh. for some reason, it didn apply that patch
mircea_popescu: well now! isn't that interesting
mod6: ben_vulpes: yeah, pretty close
mod6: diff -uNr a/bitcoin/src/main.cpp b/bitcoin/src/main.cpp
mod6: --- a/bitcoin/src/main.cpp 92038390413f77b55e19439738e87c21bd5b2313dc6edad78bcc8bf722dde82623a31a56a87b0182e75e6824fc709dc216fb9cb159b49a16e212e3a5ded93f58
mod6: +++ b/bitcoin/src/main.cpp 02ccc72e42939509fc180861db7ffec50563a84869f35671fcf720090f9782674edcc89c4174175691566fac7277f1ebe0f50253d1e4a995eb960f5b43cce2a3
ben_vulpes: i send only warnings.
mircea_popescu: 578324747b453bb61a2e1d626508f0b344704980605c79fc994b51aa86c5f437b937ab89d994dcccca4e45877b1f2c763c3e06b8c613eeae263409ee3178a42a trinque.sh
mircea_popescu: turns out it was built from trinque sh
mod6: ah, where can I find the source for that?
asciilifeform: l0l!
ben_vulpes: hahaha
ben_vulpes: and what head praytell does that press
mircea_popescu: i should know what i run ???
mod6: :D
mircea_popescu: ROTOR_HASH=e232c07238feb16ce055211fba68ed283c47753a8716681ac47c869c21936f48768f
trinque: uh, what's trinque.sh
trinque: lol
trinque: !s trinque.sh
assbot: 0 results for 'trinque.sh' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=trinque.sh
mircea_popescu: curl -s http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/V-20151129.tar.gz -o V-20151129.tar.gz
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1l0Hyqh )
mircea_popescu: here we go.
ben_vulpes: one of the downsides of the kalash is its wide cone of bullet distribution
punkman: http://www.sciencealert.com/this-woman-has-illegally-uploaded-millions-of-journal-articles-in-an-attempt-to-open-up-science not bad
assbot: Researcher illegally shares millions of science papers free online to spread knowledge - ScienceAlert ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLLEOg )
ben_vulpes off to shabbos and very shortly
mircea_popescu: isn't this what that kid killed himself for ?
mircea_popescu: mod6 should i dpaste this script ?
mod6: yeah please.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was
ben_vulpes: punkman: and why is she even hosting them herself?
punkman: because badass russian chick? dunno
ben_vulpes off
punkman: "when you search for a paper, Sci-Hub tries to immediately download it from fellow pirate database LibGen. If that doesn't work, Sci-Hub is able to bypass journal paywalls thanks to a range of access keys that have been donated by anonymous academics"
asciilifeform: elsevier has been musting die for a very long time.
ben_vulpes: musting die lol
ben_vulpes: anyways enjoy archaeologying mircea_popescu's build process y'all
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> yes mod6's scripts are excellent, use them! << hey now!
ben_vulpes: what what
mod6: haha.
mod6: they could be better, sorry.
ben_vulpes: they accomplish their purpose! last time i read through them they even checked hashes and performed all sorts of niceties.
mircea_popescu: stop hating ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: but the road to automated reactor controls is paved with perl scripts, if you'll forgive a language jab mod6
mod6: awe, poor perl. has no friends.
mircea_popescu: just users.
ben_vulpes stops hating, off to drink and be loud with family
asciilifeform: http://blog.notdot.net/2012/10/Build-your-own-FPGA << 'computronium fabric by the metre'
assbot: Build your own FPGA - Nick's Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1XoJXbt )
asciilifeform: a few hectares of this, and you have (slow...) fpga...
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> my mind recoils at the notion of running a reference implementation compiled without knowing the patchlist going into it << im not sure how to reconsile this. either you don't know what you're doing and you use a fully automated build script, or you do, and you build by hand. ☟︎
mod6: its a choose your own adventure really.
mod6: basically, either you accept the preposed in toto, or you do not and piece-meal it together by which people you trust and do not, and which patches you want or do not.
mod6: i think this is how it is, and should be.
kakobrekla: fully automated build script < code as spec
mircea_popescu: mod6 http://dpaste.com/3NRHYG4
assbot: dpaste: 3NRHYG4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1XoKxpC )
mod6 looks
mod6: ah yes: ./v.pl p verbose TEST2 asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch
asciilifeform: yeah this is pre-malleus.
asciilifeform: settled.
mircea_popescu: myeah.
mod6: ^
mircea_popescu: it's really 99997
asciilifeform: i have nfi, maybe mircea_popescu wanted this.
mircea_popescu: older node.
mircea_popescu: AT THE TIME is what we had.
mod6: ah, ok.. but don't run the 99996 yet -- the script needs a 1 line update iirc.
mircea_popescu: heh. check him out.
mod6: danielpbarron, got plans this weekend?
mod6: :D
mircea_popescu: anyway, this lets us know 99997 version syncs.
mircea_popescu: it's within hours of catching up.
mod6: true Mr. P.
mod6: thanks
mircea_popescu: anyway. there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG with using a release.
mircea_popescu: the responsibility rests ENTIRELY with the coders.
mod6: i agree.
mircea_popescu: there's no squirming out from under this rock, like there's no squirming out from under any other rock.
mircea_popescu: all the rocks are, deliberately, pointedly and with no recourse placed on your ballsacks.
mircea_popescu: this is not an accident. and this will never change.
mircea_popescu: read the fucking code, don't write it.
mircea_popescu: rebase until your finger bleed. i don't give a shit how hard it is, or how you think there's more productive uses of your time.
mircea_popescu: and etfc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu can go on about how disgusting a cow is, but at the end of the day his icecream still comes out of one...
asciilifeform: or does it.
mircea_popescu: the entire fucking exercise is precisely and strictly ABOUT taking all the sexy out of programming. ALL OF IT. forevert.
asciilifeform: now this, yes.
punkman: apparently a lot of implementations have "EXCEPTION: St12out_of_range" errors ☟︎
asciilifeform: it is why v.
asciilifeform: punkman: locale
mircea_popescu: punkman yeah it's when unexpected bs comes from peer.
asciilifeform: or hm
asciilifeform: ah yes.
punkman: https://bitbucket.org/JordanLeePeershares/nubit/pull-requests/240/fix-for-exception-st12out_of_range/diff
assbot: JordanLeePeershares / NuBit / Pull request #240: Fix for EXCEPTION: St12out_of_range — Bitbucket ... ( http://bit.ly/1XoL6Q9 )
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's not unexpected or alarming.
mircea_popescu: and to round up : the other one, testing a (slightly older) 99996 keeps dying like a little bitch, so it's behind
mircea_popescu: schedule.
asciilifeform: is that the one where mircea_popescu nohup'd without & ?
mircea_popescu: i nohup'd without & on all systems
mircea_popescu: the others don't mind.
asciilifeform: 'cause they never get sighup ?!
mircea_popescu: they do.
mircea_popescu: do not expect me to know how unix runs. the authors gave up.
mircea_popescu: and i sure as fuck ain't doing basic science for the sake of science on it.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, THAT machine igot a sighup 10 minutes ago, and bitcoind is still running on it. so... wtf.)
danielpbarron: mod6> danielpbarron, got plans this weekend? << Eulora auction yo! Other than that, I don't really have "weekends" as I don't have a 9 to 5 kinda schedule
mod6: ah, alright.
danielpbarron: what is it you want me to test?
mircea_popescu: lol i'm so curious what that stuff will go for.
mod6: well, we need to make a 1 line change to the 99996 build script, and then update the wiki. BUT on the other hand we're gonna need 99995 soon anyway, as soon as some people beat up on my latest patch for V.
danielpbarron: i have plenty of stuff to do so hopefully i won't get too carried away on the bidding
mod6: Cause then I'm gonna release V v99995, which will require another script update.
mod6: i guess I should make the script change and get it deedbotted.
mod6: then move on and there will just be a new version soon.
mod6: sorry :(
asciilifeform wonders if the buildscript could become a makefile one day
asciilifeform: i tried this on day 1, but never figured out how to get idiot gnumake to recurse
punkman: there was polarbeard's thing
asciilifeform: not speaking of that horror
asciilifeform: but of the builder
mod6: did you look at trinques makefiles?
asciilifeform: not iirc
mod6: i was working on those lastnight, getting some stuff updated.
asciilifeform: did they sanely avoid building anything that was already built ?
asciilifeform: because that's why makefile
mod6: i just haven't quite figured out how im gonna fit it all together since they need to be Vified as well. at lesat, I think they do...
mod6: asciilifeform: umm. not sure.
mod6: it basically breaks up my build script into makefiles. its worth your time to take a look i think.
asciilifeform: link?
mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000190.html
assbot: [BTC-dev] Experimental makefiles for bitcoind ... ( http://bit.ly/1S0cMtv )
asciilifeform: this is no good.
mod6: getting the makefiles squared away, is the last remaining task (other than regression testing) that stands in the way of v054
mod6: no good?
mod6: how can it be better?
asciilifeform: 'make clean' should not delete motherfucking tarballs of deps THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE EVER
asciilifeform: srsly
asciilifeform: wtf
asciilifeform: also mixing v press and makefile build is imho The Wrong Thing.
mod6: ah, ok. well, we're planning on working through these things. any other things?
asciilifeform: pressing and building are philosophically distinct acts. ☟︎
asciilifeform: or how about where it curl's from oracle.com ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: or where it has 5 makefiles (why ?) ☟︎
mod6: yeah, well, that is one of the things. we need to figure out where to pull the stuff from -- and again if locally, then we need to totally alter buildroot.
asciilifeform: i remember now that i saw this before, and mercifully forgot.
mod6: which everyone has said, needs to happen.
mod6: ok so you're not sold on these 'eh.
mod6: alright, well, we'll have to come up with something.
asciilifeform: aha.
trinque: given you proposed recursive makefiles, and are now bitching that there are many makefiles, what is your new proposal?
mod6: im starting to think that maybe we dont worry about that for this release.
mod6: instead we just have a "release" version of the build script like everyone has been using and then push the "better build aparatus" into the post release development push.
asciilifeform: trinque: originally i wanted recursive so i could dive into, e.g., boost, openssl, and have a single makefile for the whole orchestra
asciilifeform: (it would invoke the heathen ones in the deps and intelligently proceed, or not, given success/failure)
trinque: as for make clean, cd build; make clean
asciilifeform: clean should never erase ~permanent~ components
trinque: we are both aware of what a trivial change that is.
asciilifeform: at any rate, mod6 imho should not wait for this
mod6: im trying to avoid getting hit over the head with "but it uses curl!" -- but maybe i like the beatings?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu likes, iirc, building on same box as his thing ~runs~ on, that is, a net-connected one
asciilifeform: i - don't
asciilifeform: and if a script insists on curling, i won't use it.
trinque: so you put the deps in the proper place, and nothing is downloaded
asciilifeform: so it needs a fallback where the deps are not curled if already found
asciilifeform: aha ok
asciilifeform: then works.
asciilifeform: and under no circumstances must, e.g., 'boost', be built twice.
asciilifeform: do we have this ?
trinque: yep, albeit "boost is done" is currently "there is a folder here which it shat"
trinque: we've been overlooking a great many failed targets since day one
asciilifeform: in unrelated lulz, https://blog.nearlyfreespeech.net/2015/06/27/icanns-assault-on-personal-and-small-business-privacy
assbot: NearlyFreeSpeech.NET Blog » ICANN’s assault on personal and small business privacy ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qd3j3F )
mod6: mircea_popescu: you need any help, or did you get that issue with it dying sorted?
trinque: death to dns
mod6: anyway, so again, my short term goal here is to get V stablized so hopefully no further changes will be needed once i pt out v99995
trinque: I quite liked the v-tronic hosts file idea
mod6: I did too, but we need more mirrors imho
mod6: these are the new root servers.
asciilifeform: and where, exactly, is one to get a new host file, if all of the mirrors vanish overnight ?
mod6: where do you get A records if all of the root/gtld servers vanish?
asciilifeform: nobody would even notice if they were to vanish - caches have it all
mod6: until caches expire, ya
asciilifeform: imho global 'zooko' names are a broken concept.
asciilifeform: route to keys.
asciilifeform: alias - locally.
mod6: so once the new V is out, i don't see why at that point we don't submit the release vpatch.
mod6: then we can update the build script for v99995 where it presses up through `v054-RELEASE.vpatch' or something.
mod6: (this is without the makefiles), with the makefiles, we'll have to wait on the release vpatch until the makefiles are vified.
mod6: my apologies, kinda thinking out loud here.
mod6: ok testing the one line change to v99996 build script.
mod6: has everyone who is going to test this: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-February/000210.html actually finished? maybe i don't need to wait another week.
assbot: [BTC-dev] V [v99995] Beta 2 - Call For Testers! ... ( http://bit.ly/1oqqg7a )
mod6: heard reports from gernika, and shinohai
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform wonders if the buildscript could become a makefile one day << afaik this was broadly tyhe plan, at least at first
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> 'make clean' should not delete motherfucking tarballs of deps THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE EVER <<< make clean should wipe the whole thing, that's the idea ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other "amateurs like alf likes" news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m39lgwegnZ1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1O7xLov )
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, it's been raining like the end of the world in buenos aires, i fully expect the downtown to be under water in the morning.
asciilifeform: meh, no faces
mod6: mircea_popescu: hows the power situation been?
mircea_popescu: i'd guess about 100mm fallen so far, 5ish per minute or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: mod6 sorta usian, i guess.
mod6: dicy 'eh. haha
mircea_popescu: :p
mod6: ok so that one line update built fine... good to know.
asciilifeform: in unrel. nyooz, saunders mac lane's 'algebra' is nifty
asciilifeform: even if a bit of a backbreaker.
asciilifeform: mega-recommend.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404516 << why not the src and itself also then. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 03:50:29; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> 'make clean' should not delete motherfucking tarballs of deps THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE EVER <<< make clean should wipe the whole thing, that's the idea
asciilifeform: or jusr rm -rf ~
mircea_popescu: massive lightning strike bout quarter mile away, took my inverter clean off.
asciilifeform: the ~sane~ behaviour for a make is to kill only that which it itself birthed.
asciilifeform: waiwut
asciilifeform: what was it plugged into
kakobrekla: you have a dc to ac inverter?
mircea_popescu: uh
asciilifeform does
mircea_popescu: i think it must be
mircea_popescu: generator makes dc right ?
kakobrekla: what generator
asciilifeform: the diesel sort? not unless it was made in 1900 or so
mircea_popescu: well whatever, the thing with the dials.
mircea_popescu: no mains current in this part of town since midday, kako
kakobrekla: huh
kakobrekla: move to africa
mircea_popescu: ikr ?
mircea_popescu: but ARGENTINA NO ES UN PAIS POBRE!
asciilifeform: why would lightning zap a standalone box sans mains wiring ?
mircea_popescu: solo es que todo deja de funccionar si lluvia
asciilifeform: l0l!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, it must've induced something.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the src and itself also, prolly, yeah.
mircea_popescu: make clean is what you do when you dunno wtf went wrong.
asciilifeform: also before vdiffing
mircea_popescu: i guess this raises the need for an intermediate flag
asciilifeform: as in buildroot
mircea_popescu: yeah huh.
danielpbarron: !up blockchain_enthu
blockchain_enthu: Thanks danielpbarron
danielpbarron: no problem, who are you?
blockchain_enthu: I am a non-tech kind guy trying to understand block chain and bit coins. I find block chain to be more interesting than bit coin
blockchain_enthu: so i thought i'll join an IRC channels to see what kind of things people discuss
danielpbarron: what do you mean, block chain more interesting? How are the two separate?
blockchain_enthu: yes, those two are not separate.
danielpbarron: but the implication is that there could exist a block chain without the money part
blockchain_enthu: but the underlying principle of bitcoin is block-chain which can have many other applications
blockchain_enthu: precisely
danielpbarron: like what?
blockchain_enthu: umm.. like executing real estate transactions?
blockchain_enthu: i am still trying to explore more
blockchain_enthu: what are your thoughts on this?
danielpbarron: i'm trying to find the part in the log where this idea was proposed and shot down
blockchain_enthu: right.
danielpbarron: aha found it!
blockchain_enthu: is there a way for me to read that part ?
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300461 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-10-2015 13:20:52; mircea_popescu: seriously, you're going to invent a blockchain way to make losers not be beaten up by their betters ? because why.
danielpbarron: i think that pretty well sums it up
danielpbarron: that and every other half-baked idea to "do x but this time with blockchain technowlogeez"
blockchain_enthu: LOL! Well a lot of ideas seem ridiculous before somebody manages to pull it off
danielpbarron: the key word there is 'somebody' and right now you ain't that
danielpbarron: !gettrust blockchain_enthu
assbot: blockchain_enthu is not registered in WoT.
blockchain_enthu: LOL! i'm not saying i'm going to do it. i'm just exploring the possibility
blockchain_enthu: and trying to get a sense of how far along have people thought over this
danielpbarron: do you have a bitcoin node?
blockchain_enthu: Nope
blockchain_enthu: like a said non-tech guy
danielpbarron: do you know the private key to any addresses with unspent outputs?
blockchain_enthu: Nope, again.
mircea_popescu: how about you read the log instead.
danielpbarron: here's another part of the log that seems relevant to your station >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2016#1402512 << and funny thing is I'm currently watching The Matrix as we speak ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2016 21:10:11; mircea_popescu: these delusioanl urchins are so used to seeing themselves as a sort of neo-in-matrix that it just doesn't compute.
kakobrekla: read log? sounds too much like actual work.
blockchain_enthu: Well I am going through the log
blockchain_enthu: when i said real-estate transactions, i meant buying/selling of real-estate.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla in fairness he prolly never actually met something like this yet.
danielpbarron: the one thing the block chain can do is move arbitrary numbers between arbitrary addresses and this works because it all exists totally within itself. The problem with trying to mesh this with things not-in-the-block-chain is that they do not have to obey the rules set forth therein
danielpbarron: "this smart contract says x" "so what?" *clubs head*
danielpbarron: blockchain_enthu, I'd re-voice you but I can't think of anything else of interest to add here. If anyone else wants to take a turn...
punkman: !up blockchain_enthu
blockchain_enthu: Thanks punkman
blockchain_enthu: the only counter point I'd like to make here is this: even though real world items do not follow rules like bitcoins do, but there is a whole system (read legal system) which allows people to do transactions and move things around
blockchain_enthu: and so, this would require recognition of block chain transactions as valid transactions in real world
punkman: one interesting thing would be land deeds notarized on the bitcoin chain
blockchain_enthu: punkman, how do you imagine that would work?
mircea_popescu: nobody cares about the legal system
mircea_popescu: it's more obsolete than democracy / marriage / working the fields with your hands.
danielpbarron: that's more of a WoT thing than a block chain thing, and we're back to betters beating losers
punkman: if you have jurisdiction over an area of land, not a bad thing to do.
mircea_popescu: if you do you wouldn't call it that.
punkman: call what
mircea_popescu: "jurisdiction"
punkman: what's a better word?
mircea_popescu: not a matter of word picking, i'm just making the point that there's no benefit for the new lord importing the old gunk.
blockchain_enthu: isn't land deeds prepared by only one authority?
blockchain_enthu: how does block chain make it any different?
mircea_popescu: it's not yet established that "land ownership" by the torens method has any room in the future.
mircea_popescu: moreover, currently afaik most of the us runs on the barbaric title-deed mechanism anyway.
mircea_popescu: so no - no central authority whatsoever.
punkman: what if you are the king of malta?
blockchain_enthu: anyway, i think i'll have to read up a lot more before i contribute to the discussion here. Thanks all for sharing your thoughts.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, what if ?
mircea_popescu: you mean the sovereign of the order or what ?
punkman: no, the sovereign of the island, and now you want to sell land to people
mircea_popescu: sell as in how ?
mircea_popescu: let them use it for as long as they pay you the rent ?
punkman: not lease
mircea_popescu: but ?
mircea_popescu: "we grant, and of our liberality we bountifully bestow upon the aforesaid Very Reverend Grand Master of the Religion and Order of Saint John of Jerusalem, in feudal perpetuity, noble, free and unencumbered, our cities, castles, places and islands of Tripoli, Malta and Gozo, with all their cities, castles, places and island territories; with pure and mixed jurisdiction, right, and property of useful government; with po
mircea_popescu: wer of life and death over males and females residing within their limits, and with the laws, constitutions, and rights now existing amongst the inhabitants; together with all other laws and rights, exemptions, privileges, revenues and other immunities whatsoever; so that they may hereafter hold them in feudal tenure from us, as Kings of both Sicilies, and from our successors in the same kingdom, reigning at the time,
mircea_popescu: under the sole payment of a falcon; which every year, on the Feast of All Saints, shall be presented by the person or persons duly authorised for that purpose, into the hands of the Viceroy or President, who may at that time be administering the government, in sign and recognition of feudal tenure; and having made that payment, they shall remain exempt and free from all other service claimable by law, and by custom per
mircea_popescu: formed by feudal vassals"
mircea_popescu: that's how malta was originally acquired from the monarch of sicily.
punkman: not sure I have any nonstupid questions or answers on the topic
mircea_popescu: let's leave it at "property is a complicated thing" then.
punkman: sure is
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BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 388.2, vol: 8447.62433736 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 392.0, vol: 7065.24097 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 389.09, vol: 16168.14630868 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 382.0, vol: 0.0385 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 402.945421, vol: 28044.99800000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 386.46001, vol: 919.14120466 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 389.4922, vol: 87.58605317 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 395.663622551
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 398212 | Current Difficulty: 1.4411644784734866E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 399167 | Next Difficulty In: 955 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 6 hours, 47 minutes, and 22 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
BingoBoingo: Bittorrent Man: https://medium.com/@bramcohen/double-billing-is-not-healthy-competition-b698c345b11e#.vw9e3r195 ☟︎
assbot: Double Billing is not ‘Healthy Competition’ — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1TeE14o )
BingoBoingo: Nothing new other than the introduction, which is gold: "Let’s say that you’re running a company and want to create some internal competition between teams to see which ones can perform better. You can do this with R&D, and sales, but I would humbly suggest that you don’t do it with receivables. Sending out duplicate invoices to customers is generally referred to as ‘criminal behavior’."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118150 @ 0.00056845 = 67.1624 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up wywialm
wywialm: hi, thx BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: Hello to you too.
deedbot-: [Qntra] Stabbbing At KnCMiner Affiliated Datacenter - http://qntra.net/2016/02/stabbbing-at-kncminer-affiliated-datacenter/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60808 @ 0.0005577 = 33.9126 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9642 @ 0.00055526 = 5.3538 BTC [-]
punkman: http://www.zmatt.net/unlocking-my-lenovo-laptop-part-3/
assbot: Unlocking my Lenovo laptop, part 3 – zmatt.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1QyqzUb )
BingoBoingo: I really don't understand why there isn't more outrage about the perpetuation of this lithium ion battery planned obscelescence scam.
BingoBoingo: There's AA low self discharge NiMH cells out there with 2 amp hour capacities and up to 2100 recharge cycle life spans
BingoBoingo: !up copypaste
mircea_popescu: this is a good q.
BingoBoingo: I mean that's about as good as or better energy density than Li-ion, vastly reduced fire hazard, and all kinds of other joy.
punkman: is it actually the same density?
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: afaik it's about 70ish%
punkman: could even have easily replaceable 18650 lithium cells
BingoBoingo: I don't want lithium cells at all outside of cmos battery
asciilifeform: ~1/2 the density
asciilifeform: (nimh vs li)
asciilifeform: again thank idiot hog x86 !
asciilifeform: for gigantic flammable batteries that last 2y
mircea_popescu: you hate with an enduring passion rare in humans, mr alf.
asciilifeform: ty mircea_popescu !
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/btmsr-block-cipher-competition/#comment-116499 << in other news, a lower bound claim appears.
assbot: B,TMSR~ Block Cipher Competition on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PTaETY )
asciilifeform: i read the enchilada paper
mircea_popescu: i'd like to read how the lower bound claim is constructed.
asciilifeform: the proof appears to use the.... Handwaving technique.
asciilifeform: but i'd love to engage the author here.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ~1/2 the density << In practice I'm not so sure. 3 AA eneloops new offers a total 6.3 Ah. Present laptop's battery if new 5.2 Ah with much bigger cells
mircea_popescu: that's what makes these things iffy. gotta let the proponent state it whenever it's such a case.
mircea_popescu: actual good science can be summarized. this - no.
asciilifeform: ~voltage~
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo there's been a lot of progress with fine meshes or w/e, but i'm pretty sure they still didn't manage to catch up to li ion
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ^
mircea_popescu: the 1/2 figure is more 2000era tho. they're better now.
punkman: eneloop is what, 1.2v, lenovo battery 12v, so you'd need 10 of them?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ~voltage~ << 9 in series to get required voltage
BingoBoingo: punkman: eneloop is 1.2v lenovo is 10.8
BingoBoingo: 9 + charge controller could easily fit inside 6 li-ion cell battery prison's form factor.
BingoBoingo: Side effect of this is if weight is actually a concern (it really shouldn't be) AAA cell battery prison could also be offered.
punkman: AAA would take more space
BingoBoingo: how? AAA is smaller?
punkman: if you were to have the equivalent of 10 AA I mean
BingoBoingo: So, power reserve capacity goes down to get the lighter weight. This is just physics.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: also remember the discharge curve.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: So far playing with these astoundingly flat.
BingoBoingo: Or introduce the sensible compromise that clock gets throttled on battery power.
punkman: you could make battery pack that plugs in charger port, see what happens
asciilifeform: already sop
BingoBoingo: If current draw is really that big of a concern
BingoBoingo: <punkman> you could make battery pack that plugs in charger port, see what happens << these tend to be li-ion, on in my present case charger is plugged into SLA
punkman: sla?
asciilifeform: that's another thing, internal resistance of nimh is pretty high
asciilifeform: vs li
BingoBoingo: <punkman> sla? << sealed lead acid
asciilifeform: think about what this means
BingoBoingo: internal resistance also greatly reduced in the low self discharge version
punkman: http://funnyhacks.com/oldsite/?feed=fh&ep=10
assbot: Running a laptop off AA batteries - Funnyhacks.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1PTbQXz )
punkman: he's using 20 AAs for eee craptop
asciilifeform: aha, demo of internal resistance...
asciilifeform: (spoiler: melts)
asciilifeform: phun phakt: hp200lx runs for ~month on a pair of 'aa'.
asciilifeform: (circa '92 or so)
BingoBoingo: I remember, but can it run bitcoind?
asciilifeform: mno
asciilifeform: neither could 'eeepc'
asciilifeform: nor mircea_popescu's thinkpad...
BingoBoingo: but mircea_popescu's thinkpad is not a computer. It is a bedtime video player.
BingoBoingo: runs bitcoind is separating line between general purpose computer and specialized limited purpose machine.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404665 << the 'if we close our eyes, mircea_popescu won't exist!' orchestra is a fountain of lulz ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 10:48:19; BingoBoingo: Bittorrent Man: https://medium.com/@bramcohen/double-billing-is-not-healthy-competition-b698c345b11e#.vw9e3r195
BingoBoingo: Seriously
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404651 << aha ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 09:26:59; BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404408 << Malleus should end this
asciilifeform: lulzily, i wrote malleus upon being prodded by mircea_popescu - who hasn't, it appears, yet tried it
BingoBoingo: 12 years a lol
asciilifeform: (spoiler- worx great)
BingoBoingo: !up p15x
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: waiwut
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: What, every explitive requires an explanation nao?
kakobrekla: http://nodecounter.com/mining_donation_fund.php
assbot: NodeCounter.com (XTnodes.com) - Bitcoin Classic, XT, Unlimited Nodes, Blocks, Graphs, Charts, Statistics ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pu56hn )
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: dem000000000cracy!11111
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's a system catching up with it, too.
mircea_popescu: at 150k bnecause nohup weirdf atm
asciilifeform doesn't sync from heathen world any moar. either moves signed gigatarball around, or -connect's via ssh tunnel ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i like syncing.
asciilifeform: srsly the stock sync mechanism is ~profoundly~ retarded.
asciilifeform: maybe 5% efficient.
asciilifeform: at all other times, either idles, or moves around worthless crud
asciilifeform: (unasked-for blocks)
mircea_popescu: i know.
asciilifeform: so what's to like ?
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404757 <<< /me experimented with -connecting to my blockchain stored on the pogo, haven't got it ironed out yet. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 15:21:20; *: asciilifeform doesn't sync from heathen world any moar. either moves signed gigatarball around, or -connect's via ssh tunnel
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm a promiscuous sort what can i tell you.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> the 'if we close our eyes, mircea_popescu won't exist!' orchestra is a fountain of lulz <<< i'm totally making cocktails with water from there. makes the girls all giddy.
asciilifeform: l0l!
mircea_popescu: ok, so indeed it was the &
mircea_popescu: box now happy.
asciilifeform: toldya it won't detach unless &
mircea_popescu: the other one(s) do!
mircea_popescu: this is an utter scam.
asciilifeform: my other bus was brake-steerable !111
mircea_popescu: :)
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : i just used ~4mn satoshi worth of Eulora stuff to dig up ~7mn worth of Eulora stuff. I just earned 3 bitcents off virtual mmorpg economy this morning, on top of everything else!
mircea_popescu is really digging this virtual employee thing. leave the poor player overnight, come back to more riches!
mircea_popescu: Mircea Mircescu paid for Mircea Popescu's coffee this morn!
BingoBoingo: !b 2 ✂︎
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1S6Z9Z9.txt )
mats: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/92/be/7b/92be7bc80c7d9a53352ec14de5c64091.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1VbLoIL )
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: this, for the record my dear lord mats , is entirely a constructed, deliberate neurosis. there is nothing paralyzing about uncertainity in se. the paralizing bit, much like the horse's bit, or the nail in the grenade, is the expectation of maximal outcome, often doublespoken as "responsibility", and generally internalized as "self respect" or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: once you accept that human life is definitionalyl worthless, and ESPECIALLY that of those people you care about (chiefly - your own), uncertainity is no more threatening than atmosphere is overpowering.
mircea_popescu: "oh im here at the bottom of an ocean of air exerting 100kpa on my every limb, i can scarcely move!!1"
mircea_popescu: really ?
shinohai: !rate mats 2 True patgron of the Bitcoin arts. http://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/5ca0c787756f65e213ad1f1b28db0703d730bebe6883d2aed735f87c52ca7b4c
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/a65c5b6dade31a45
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1VbLXm1 )
shinohai: !v assbot:shinohai.rate.mats.2:40da9082915c65e8c7a11d071c2c2b9d69d4b9920ad0dca9a63f4dbfb4f5bf71
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for mats from 1 to 2 with note: True patgron of the Bitcoin arts. http://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/5ca0c787756f65e213ad1f1b28db0703d730bebe6883d2aed735f87c52ca7b4c
shinohai: shit gotta redo I misspelled
kakobrekla: you meant 'warts' instead?
shinohai: !rate mats 2 True patron of the Bitcoin arts. http://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/5ca0c787756f65e213ad1f1b28db0703d730bebe6883d2aed735f87c52ca7b4c
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/1a49c21b5f3a6334
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1VbLXm1 )
shinohai: !v assbot:shinohai.rate.mats.2:006ea4e3da7d1bec825091754adebe945ee22bb6805bf1785af81a43a088399e
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for mats from 2 to 2 with note: True patron of the Bitcoin arts. http://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/5ca0c787756f65e213ad1f1b28db0703d730bebe6883d2aed735f87c52ca7b4c
shinohai: better
mats: mircea_popescu: to me it is just a cute comic with a boy and an anthropomorphic tiger
mats: i dun look for insights into the human condition in such places
mircea_popescu: makes sense.
mircea_popescu: * NejcKodric (54ffd749@gateway/web/freenode/ip. has joined #bitcoin-assets << was that the bitstamp dood ?
mircea_popescu: hey, patgron is pretty cool!
BingoBoingo: Could be him. Could be hello dog.
kakobrekla: ip is slovenia so quite possibly
mircea_popescu: peeps gotta up newbs!
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i thought they moved to some uk incubeator ?
kakobrekla: i think he (personally) is still around here
mircea_popescu: a
kakobrekla: i doubt he had anything of substance to say
mircea_popescu: and in more of the same news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lykryf1mMZ1qzr5eeo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ti1d2L )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> peeps gotta up newbs! << was looking away at some twitter policy garbage
mircea_popescu: in other lolz : is at ~70k loads of trilema.com/xmlrpc.php over the past 3 days. comes to twenty a minute or some shit.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 272171 @ 0.00056737 = 154.4217 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: but hey, italy isn't a part of africa, populated by first-generation-in-shoes subhuman horde. they got like technologees and shit. can spam like teh pros!
BingoBoingo: !up SandyHarris
mircea_popescu: !up SandyHarris
mircea_popescu: it doesn't work, but then again neither did whatever the "hacker team" was doing, so...
mircea_popescu: lol
BingoBoingo: The most important part of any wordpress installation is the deletion of xmlrpc.php
mircea_popescu: eh waht do i care, let the kids be leet and shit.
mircea_popescu: not like it does anything.
BingoBoingo: It does even less things when gone.
deedbot-: [Qntra] Twitter Adopting Dangerous Benesch Speech Framework - http://qntra.net/2016/02/twitter-adopting-dangerous-benesch-speech-framework/
BingoBoingo: ^ Twitter makes banning all mircea_popescus official policy
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca1lMpBXEAAsVkX.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ti2NSc )
BingoBoingo: latest qntra updated, forgot a link
BingoBoingo: For alf who does not want to feed google https://archive.is/i3uRl
assbot: Staff — Dangerous Speech Project ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ti35sp )
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo eh, dangerous for whom ? twitter is a goner, they're not making money, they can't make money, the share is collapsing, a 2020 with twitter still around is an impossibility.
mircea_popescu: the [sort of] people who bought slashdot will soon buy twitter and that's that.
mircea_popescu: turns out mps banning you sticks, you banning them doesn't. who knew.
BingoBoingo: dangerous for people who think twitter like tor is relevant to an anything
mircea_popescu: <punkman> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca1lMpBXEAAsVkX.jpg << win. ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ti2NSc )
mircea_popescu: so, so much win.
danielpbarron: heh i'm not banned yet, and i tweeted the death warrant
mircea_popescu: an entire "culture" of retards lies buried there, reddit, cracked, wikipedia, twitter, the bell bottoms and disco hair of the 2000s.
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: That's a sign the twitter stasi find you unimportant
danielpbarron: i thought maybe it was because i have a really old account and i don't spam, ever
BingoBoingo: Nope
mircea_popescu: nah, they actually go by this inept shit.
danielpbarron: if it weren't for my extremely offensive views, i'm really their perfect user
danielpbarron: or maybe even better my offensive views
danielpbarron: gets more impressions or whatever
BingoBoingo: If you say subversive things on twitter and haven't been banned yet, it is because they have determined you are an unimportant loon. This is why I find twitter offensive for its failure to ban me.
mircea_popescu: im not even sure they have a perfect user. they don't aim to anything.
mircea_popescu: lol BingoBoingo. give it time, overnight dangerousness is usually obtained in a decade or two.
mircea_popescu: in other susan benesch news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/e491ea42ab51f2d3de9edfdf33690cb9/tumblr_nitiu49x4j1u2j8oyo1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1o9VOOp )
mircea_popescu: rabbit replacement BingoBoingo ?
mircea_popescu: qntra, the... electrocuting news site.
BingoBoingo: I dunno. Dixie seems to have substantial branding value due to the length of history. Mebbe we can save that for our eventual electrifying literary magazine?
mircea_popescu: kk
danielpbarron: heh i switched to Rhodesia flag on my profile pic last night
danielpbarron: people kept complaining the confed flag was too offensive
mircea_popescu: lmao
punkman: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/07/world/asia/wanted-in-china-more-male-teachers-to-make-boys-men.html
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ti4AqG )
punkman: tumblr links are just timing out for me
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404839 << i use strictly fisher's cylinders in pen ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 16:41:44; mircea_popescu: <punkman> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca1lMpBXEAAsVkX.jpg << win.
asciilifeform: mega-ink
asciilifeform: won't run, laughs at grease, water, dirt, crummy paper
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/adio-twitter/ << from back when mp quit twitter the first time
assbot: Adio twitter on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ti4JdB )
asciilifeform: and no pressure drop
asciilifeform: soldiers on until entirely empty.
danielpbarron: punkman, try the bit.ly link
danielpbarron: heh I also use a spacepen
danielpbarron: had it for years
BingoBoingo has been gradually shifting to felt tipped pens as he writes less on paper.
punkman: "NTP server set to 1.1.1970 on a public hotspot will brick IOS devices (iPad and iPhones), requiring physical repair." https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/458ao3/discussion_changing_time_date_settings_to_jan_1/
assbot: [Discussion] Changing Time & Date settings to Jan 1, 1970 will permanently brick 64-bit iOS devices : jailbreak ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ti4U8M )
asciilifeform: oldnyooz
punkman: ntp part is new for me
mircea_popescu: ntp ftw!
mats: should be relatively easy to impersonate an aapl ntp server and brick phones on a network
BingoBoingo: <mats> should be relatively easy to impersonate an aapl ntp server and brick phones on a network << Imagine if a terrorist messed with BGP servers
mircea_popescu: imagien the productivity gains if all the apple products were bricked.
BingoBoingo: Seriously
BingoBoingo: In other news canon powershot A495 (2010 vintage) solid little camera. Picked one up for $25 and change. Manages to get by using two AA batteries.
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] A few things you don’t see every day, Edición Mexicana. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/02/13/a-few-things-you-dont-see-every-day-edicion-mexicana/
punkman: BingoBoingo: http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/A495
assbot: A495 - CHDK Wiki - Wikia ... ( http://bit.ly/1o9Zr6N )
BingoBoingo: punkman: ty, but it's a fucking camera. I don't see much cause for dicking its firmware up yet.
punkman: handy for timelapsing and other things
BingoBoingo: I thought that's what fiverrrar was for?
punkman: from the journal of entomology https://medium.com/female-founders/my-startup-failed-and-this-is-what-it-feels-like-c5d64b3ae96b
assbot: My startup failed, and this is what it feels like… — Female Founders — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ti6Fmn )
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404199 i'm actually swung to tease hysterical irc nicknames ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 01:32:22; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404057 << i didn't know you swung that way!
mircea_popescu: "My startup failed, and this is what it feels like : the most banal shit ever"
mircea_popescu: what start-up didn't fail ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in dirigible lands, http://36.media.tumblr.com/607b5369ffec29a56371edb54e74d54b/tumblr_nno8q1rjX61uu92gho1_1280.jpg ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1myQnHt )
mircea_popescu: !s 99dresses
assbot: 0 results for '99dresses' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=99dresses
mircea_popescu: damn i thought for sure we lolled at this before
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52663 @ 0.00057021 = 30.029 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: Honestly at this point many of the lolfish are starting to taste the same.
mircea_popescu: redditard has brief moment of clarity : "I never realised how much I hate democracy until I had to endure idiots (like myself) insisting that their voice be heard regarding the blocksize despite not having any of the required technical knowledge."
BingoBoingo: lol
asciilifeform: 'Over 90% of tech startups fail, but I never thought my baby, 99dresses, would be one of them.' << gold
asciilifeform washing decade of crud out of cpu heat sinks
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404900 << eva braun ! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 17:46:26; mircea_popescu: meanwhile in dirigible lands, http://36.media.tumblr.com/607b5369ffec29a56371edb54e74d54b/tumblr_nno8q1rjX61uu92gho1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: and in more "lively faces" news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/98f563a2214fedc5949dc23b7bd1553b/tumblr_nqt6goBpRW1uu92gho1_1280.jpg ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/242IRXy )
mircea_popescu: it occurs to me, meditating upon alf's observation, that there's probably massive evolution pressure on this, to the level of the evolutionary pressure on breast size.
shinohai: Looks like Morticia Adams as a young lady
mircea_popescu: after all... woman face is supposed to not be wrinkly, right ?
ben_vulpes: those are some very short counters
mircea_popescu: maybe it's for working-while-kneeling.
ben_vulpes: in news from the horror show: https://github.com/klen/python-mode/blob/develop/Rakefile
assbot: python-mode/Rakefile at develop · klen/python-mode · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1oabmBu )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404913 << not lively ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 18:12:14; mircea_popescu: and in more "lively faces" news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/98f563a2214fedc5949dc23b7bd1553b/tumblr_nqt6goBpRW1uu92gho1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sarcasm is wasted on the young!
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/klen/python-mode/blob/develop/Gemfile << same vein
assbot: python-mode/Gemfile at develop · klen/python-mode · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1oabpgS )
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what am i looking at
ben_vulpes: ruby in a python project
asciilifeform: ..why?
ben_vulpes: do you also ask the clowns why they paint their faces?
asciilifeform: '“But you’re taking a massive risk! That’s so brave!” they’d say. I never thought so. The biggest risk in my eyes was going to university, getting a stable job, and sliding into a comfortable life. There’s nothing wrong with that, but I knew it wasn’t me.'
shinohai: why?
punkman: ben_vulpes: but it also has a Makefile
mircea_popescu: ok, so chick thinks she's special, a lifetime of progenitorial slavery not fit for the likes of her. fine! jolly good!
mircea_popescu: turns out there's exactly 0 demand for her as an 'entrepreneur' or w/e it was, so i guess the cats await.
ben_vulpes: punkman "why were those tartars locked in boxes to starve to death?"
asciilifeform: mmhmmhgmmmmm!
ben_vulpes: ask me not these questions. i have no answers. i bring only gore from the depths.
asciilifeform: speaking of cats, they are having some sort of tourney in my back yard
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404370 << that is *precisely* the line that cleaves the world. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 02:18:58; mod6: <+ben_vulpes> my mind recoils at the notion of running a reference implementation compiled without knowing the patchlist going into it << im not sure how to reconsile this. either you don't know what you're doing and you use a fully automated build script, or you do, and you build by hand.
mircea_popescu: what tourney, "which can imitate a five year old being torn limb from limb closer to life" ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes eh hush, you've not done something by hand yet today.
mircea_popescu: did you run electricity "by hand" from the plant to your shaver or just not shaving ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: something involving ritualized staredowns and directional pissing
mircea_popescu: oh, they're having primaries.
asciilifeform: aha!
asciilifeform: the actual fighting tends to happen in the evening
punkman: usually around 6am here
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ridiculous
mircea_popescu actually got awoken once because the damned things were wailing exactly like someone trying to shove a baby through a pasta strainer.
ben_vulpes: "you haven't done anything because you're using sed and awk which you didn't write HA!"
mircea_popescu: well ?
mircea_popescu: you didn't even fucking read, let alone write.
mircea_popescu: unlike you, i have explicit author names and explicit trust relations with them. so... bald men shouldn't throw rox!
ben_vulpes: unlike what now?
ben_vulpes: perhaps a better formulation would be that there are those who curate their own patch selection and those who delegate to the foundation.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has own awk ?!
shinohai: !rate mod6 2 Hours of trb instruction and support for my node.
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asciilifeform: share plox ?
mircea_popescu: curation happens by .wot inclusion
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just making a point for the benefit of the fox here.
ben_vulpes is benefitted
shinohai: !v assbot:shinohai.rate.mod6.2:0f050f1c797392f9227a43c09e1c17e450e2894a21900100fbe318ac6c347499
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for mod6 from 1 to 2 with note: Hours of trb instruction and support for my node.
mircea_popescu: it is increasingly obvious, to me, that there should be a new genesis made, signed by a specially generated identity, "test".
mircea_popescu: this way people can base on THAT tree and know for certain they will never end up included in production.
mircea_popescu: ratger than expecting users to use any other buttons than the buttons, design the system so that it actually uses the buttons properly.
asciilifeform: parallel trees complicate things
punkman: why second genesis?
mircea_popescu: they complicate things in the correct manner, however.
mircea_popescu: punkman so someone can write experimental code without risking it showing up in a production environment and getting negrated for it.
mircea_popescu: make no mistake about it : it is NOT the user who relies on foundation curation. it is THE CODER.
punkman: sounds like putting cart before horse
mircea_popescu: whenever you sign something on the main trunk, you are swearing with your life it is good to go. \
mircea_popescu: hoping that mod6 will save you from inclusion arbitrarily is a lot fucking weaker than just having the proper control of only signing in the test branch, and choosing where yhou sign
mircea_popescu: punkman no, cart is currently put before horse. sounds like putting cart and horse back in the right places
asciilifeform: can we do this starting with next release ?
asciilifeform: rather than signing 1000000 things
asciilifeform: again.
mircea_popescu: ok.
asciilifeform: also the hashes will have to actually differ
asciilifeform: (say, add the skull in comment to every .cpp and .h, and to make, ...)
mircea_popescu: sorry alf, you're part of a standards group. this re-do work 10k times is par for the cutpurse.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm all for constructive gruntwork
asciilifeform: (consider how i even got involved)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yup. or any other thing. here's a thought : once one hash differs, the ones downstream will because it includes the different hash
asciilifeform: well yes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i know, jus' sayin.
asciilifeform: but they ~all~ gotta differ
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: i am thinking : maybe including a comment line as "this patch is intended to be applied on prev hash blabla" would do it.
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that is the most cretinous thing i ever heard.
mircea_popescu: what does it even mean ? there was a fork! there's ten forks a day. wtf.
punkman: I think you gotta either use a release or care about which patches you use, now if there are different production and testing releases that's another thing
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Apparently BizzaroBet isn't particular about wording
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo that thing can't possibly be anything but a scam at this point, of the "magic doubler address" ilk.
mircea_popescu: i mean they're not even trying.
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mircea_popescu is reading geology glossaries instead.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67496 @ 0.00056894 = 38.4012 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up ahmedbodi
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404197 looks like you confuse hard radiation (as in gamma/roentgen rays) shielding and RF "radio frequency" shielding ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 01:30:18; mircea_popescu: because of the fucking impedance in thin fillaments and other considerations, your shit will never work as a straight conductor.
mircea_popescu: radiation is a continuum!
jurov: but the shielding material necessary is markedly different
mircea_popescu: understand : a very thin, insulated fillament is not a piece of shielding, but in turn an antenna.
mircea_popescu: and "insulated" is a function of conductivity, which is a function of thickness.
jurov: not if it's woven in the grid, only the holes count to RF.
BingoBoingo: As of this week gotta be concerned about leaky emissions on the million meter spectrum.
mircea_popescu: jurov that's just an engineering rule of thumb, based on some assumptions.
asciilifeform: grounded conductor is not an antenna...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if it is grounded.
jurov: and due to skin effect if you use thick but relatively poor conductor you'll get a surprises at > MHz stuff
mircea_popescu: an arbitrarily thin filament of an arbitrary length is NOT grounded merely on the grounds that you connected it to a pipe somewhere.
jurov: faraday cage works ungrounded either
jurov: but to shield shorter wavelength, you need smaller holes in it
mircea_popescu: yes, but smaller holes and thinner wires are unrelated items here.
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mircea_popescu: you don't get an out of jail free card re wires just because "but officer, i needed smaller holes"
jurov: ofc, you're welcome to shield your walls with 2mm solid metal. the salesman prolly won't tell you that only first few micrometers count for the nastiest stuff like GSM anyway
jurov: these requencies don't penetrate deeper
jurov: hence, wowen thin wires work, too.
mircea_popescu: the problem of penetration isn't the only consideration here. what you're saying is akin to the proposition that a cpu is only hot on the surface, so only a fool would connect it to 5kg of copper.
BingoBoingo: !up Reydev
mircea_popescu: you have to be able to drain the flow.
BingoBoingo: connect to buried brine
jurov: the EM field induces currents in the conductors, which cancel it. no need to drain these anywhere
mircea_popescu: by which logic faraday cage no longer needs to be grounded. ☟︎
jurov: of course it does not need
mircea_popescu: gee.
BingoBoingo: probably best to ground anything that isn't used for explicitly vexual purposes though.
jurov: ungrounded faraday cage tends to get charged, which is not easily detectable from within, untill you open it, get out, and touch the ground
mircea_popescu: what is the difference between ungrounded faraday cage and dipole antenna ?
jurov: but otherwise it does not allow radio frequencies in (when built to spec)
mircea_popescu: and plox don't tell me it's the shape.
jurov: faraday case encloses you so wellthat it allows currents induced by external RF to cancel it
mircea_popescu: so i can not cut a hole into a faraday cage with a proton beam. ☟︎
jurov: proton beam !=== RF
mircea_popescu: it'll just melt wholesale.
mircea_popescu: and how do you make this distinction ?
jurov: RF is pulsating electromagnetic field, i.e. photons
mircea_popescu: photons have no charge.
jurov: the field does. for example the tesla coil causes strong electromagnetic field, which causes surrounding matter to ionise and get electrically charged
jurov: at the same time also radiates electromagnetic waves as photos
jurov: beause the field isn't DC but AC
mircea_popescu: as king arthur once said to trusty sir belvedere, "This new learning amazes me"
jurov: but we're going rather far. the original discussion was about shielding microwaves from radio transmission, cellphones etc.
mircea_popescu: and you were going to distinguish between far uv and close x-rays on some sort of a basis. other than "cuz i say 3*10^16 and fu"
jurov: ?
jurov: you mentioned yest nuclear cross-sections, they do apply to EUV and x-rays
mircea_popescu: anyways. the original discussion was about how you can't make a mesh arbitrarily fine and expect it to still shield anything.
jurov: but are utterly irrelevant for microwaves
jurov: oooh that, you want to shield these. oook.
mircea_popescu: there's a minimal thickness as a function of the material involved that can be used.
mircea_popescu: well that's what it was, some derps came out with what struck me on first sight as a sort of "gasoline saving magnets", ie these superthin meshes that'll "protect your monitor from nsa spying" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: as a matter of faith working miracles or somesuch.
jurov: and you imagined your monitor emits x-rays for nsa to spy on and started considering shielding foir these?
jurov: point taken.
mircea_popescu: no, i just said that i would expect on the basis of guesswork for indium -group metals to work out as the thinnest functional mesh
mircea_popescu: as opposed to fucking nickel
mircea_popescu: but i still can't be arsed to do the actual math for it, so whatevs.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1405035 << here's a mindfuck: net charge in ~closed~ conductor contour is 0. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 19:28:29; mircea_popescu: by which logic faraday cage no longer needs to be grounded.
asciilifeform: ground has nothing to do with it.
asciilifeform: green's theorem !
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1405044 << trick question, the protons cut the hole with momentum, not charge. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 19:33:28; mircea_popescu: so i can not cut a hole into a faraday cage with a proton beam.
asciilifeform: just like a saw.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1405062 << the claim from the supplier was, iirc, 50dB from dc to 10GH ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 19:42:13; mircea_popescu: well that's what it was, some derps came out with what struck me on first sight as a sort of "gasoline saving magnets", ie these superthin meshes that'll "protect your monitor from nsa spying"
asciilifeform: not 'magic shield'
asciilifeform: as for the crackpottery, it pre-dates public obsession with nsa, and even the gsm and 'smart meter' psychosis, goes way back to 1970s (!) 'power lines will kill you with magnetics' thing
asciilifeform bbl
BingoBoingo: Come on, we all know why them gubmint veterinarians want us to feed our cows their magnets...
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mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hoping that mod6 will save you from inclusion arbitrarily is a lot fucking weaker than just having the proper control of only signing in the test branch, and choosing where yhou sign << yah, this may be a really good idea. right now, we're livin on the edge.
mod6: ok.
mod6: so lastnight, I tested an updated version of the automated build script 'build-bitcoind-V99996.sh' -- the version that's currently deedbotted is no longer ok since I reground alfs patches.
mod6: If anyone wants to be helpful and test this change, you can find the updated version here: http://www.mod6.net/btcf/build-bitcoind-V99996_2.sh ☟︎☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1XqjVEO )
mod6: after you build with the above script, you should end up with the following manifiest if you follow along with this find command as such: http://dpaste.com/2VFXNFX.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1oe7Bvx )
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1405086 <<< /me is building now ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 20:12:51; mod6: If anyone wants to be helpful and test this change, you can find the updated version here: http://www.mod6.net/btcf/build-bitcoind-V99996_2.sh
mod6: shinohai: awesome, thanks!
mod6: we're gonna have to go through this again here not too long from now when V v99995 comes out, but hopefully that'll be the last time for a while.
shinohai: mod6: is this version already with patched V ?
shinohai: or do I still need to do that
mod6: oooh, you mean the beta patches? naw, you shouldn't need to do that.
mod6: it'd be rather difficult to do anyway if you wanted to, you'd have to stop mid-script and then update V, then continue.
shinohai: kk I'll just test as-is for now
mod6: yeah, that'd be fine.
shinohai: also should have a much improved status page running in a few days, Im gonna wait for full sync to turn it on
mod6: neato
jurov: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00332082 / 0.00332253 / 0.00332476 (218 shares, 0.72 BTC), 7D: 0.00282315 / 0.00295966 / 0.00332476 (1125 shares, 3.33 BTC), 30D: 0.00258386 / 0.00275891 / 0.00332476 (14677 shares, 40.49 BTC)
jurov: ;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoin-central
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 344.3, Best ask: 346.999, Bid-ask spread: 2.69900, Last trade: 346.999, 24 hour volume: 50.93502582, 24 hour low: 338.0, 24 hour high: 349.99989193, 24 hour vwap: 347.38993266
jurov: ;;calc 1/347.38993266
gribble: 0.00287860961411
jurov: davout ^^^^ ?
jurov: and interesting why price went *up * in absence of the bot
mats: is everyone asleep at the wheel?
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency eur
gribble: Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 346.493768, vol: 7244.90217088 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 349.0, vol: 51.9903 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 339.3688, vol: 0.0385 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 357.6528, vol: 24776.07600000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 344.95879, vol: 6180.32225167 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 346.999, vol: 50.93502582 | Volume-weighted last average: 353.468086158
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/45i6gf/advice_on_recovering_blockchainio_account_after/ <<< top fucking kek. "I made a temp account on Blockchain.io, not entering an email, writing down the 12 word code or passoword, something I should have done."
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jurov: anyone has any x.eur i can short while davout is sleeping?
thestringpuller: i think my node stalled.
thestringpuller: oh no. now it's a zombie process.
shinohai: ;;blocks
gribble: 398291
danielpbarron: "blocks" : 386780, << mine's still going uninterrupted since i started it
thestringpuller: oh man debug.log is way too big
danielpbarron: mine is 7 gigs
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool() : ConnectInputs failed 23757d60dd <<< do these affect anything?
danielpbarron: i think it just means you don't have the block that they spend from yet
danielpbarron: you can get bogged down by them from time to time but it should eventually move on
jurov: yes you don't have block nor transaction
thestringpuller: oh it chocked on bastard blocks
mod6: (21:17) <+jurov> anyone has any x.eur i can short while davout is sleeping?
mod6: eek. sorry, no idea how i just pasted that in there.
danielpbarron: aww poor jurov
danielpbarron: got his hopes up
mod6: ya srsly. sorry j.
mod6: im over here rollin up that new version of V.
mod6: i think i need a bigger desk
BingoBoingo: Well, 'Murica is fucked now.
BingoBoingo: ;;google scalia texas resort
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jurov: O.o
jurov: mod6: can you take photo with your desk and V rolled out?
jurov: or it's already baking?
mod6: haha
jurov: but i must say, the apron is sexy, suits you
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mod6: thanks :]
mod6: from just looking around tho, i noticed that the V graph on my wall is out of date.
mod6: ok all set.
pete_dushenski: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org: << 9!!
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mircea_popescu: o noes!
mod6: whats up?
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404237 << i was having this exact problem with 99996k (v1) box. it was alternating between choking on bastards, like thestringpuller's node, and offing itself for no apparent reason. just stopping it now and about to rebuild with mod6's latest script but it's taken ~3 weeks and is only at 325k due to this on-again-off-again shenanigans ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 01:53:07; mircea_popescu: anyone ever saw a process get ended after you disconnect a nohup session ?!
mircea_popescu: mod6 you know, "9, o noes"
mod6: ooh
pete_dushenski: it requires constant babysitting to watch for a jam and restart so that it ever keeps eating blox
shinohai: I finally put restart in a crontab until mine caught up >.<
mod6: can someone explain what nohup is for?
mod6: do i not see that same issue because i run with `&' in a screen session?
mircea_popescu: nohup catches the sighup and lets the program continue
mircea_popescu: screen does the same thing, so does tmux
mod6: hrm.
shinohai: I use tmux but sometimes `& disown` and it works fine.
mod6: my node doesn't choke at all, and seems to even see blocks before btc.blockr.io sometimes.
mod6: ugh. my hair is going grey
mircea_popescu: my beard is half white
mod6: im catchin up!
mircea_popescu: hehe
mircea_popescu: and in other "girls for alf" contestant winner news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/a3fde9a27cbdcf73973fdb23d003643f/tumblr_nqijweVkX91uu92gho1_1280.jpg ☟︎
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mod6: nice
mod6: i guess, my node is already sync'd so i'm not going through that part of a full sync atm.
mircea_popescu: !rated shinohai
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mircea_popescu: !rate shinohai 2 Active TRB tester guy.
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mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.shinohai.2:bbe1a16b5c07434099cac05b64ef6899b29989f8c8605c6667823d538db6809d
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for shinohai from 1 to 2 with note: Active TRB tester guy.
shinohai: ty
mats: scalia is dead
mod6: who cares ☟︎
mats: his family, i suppose
shinohai: The beneficiaries of his will.
mircea_popescu: mod6> who cares << he was very popular with a certain crowd.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1405182 << now obamitler can ??? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 23:08:28; mod6: who cares
mod6: what?
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1405086 << why does line 46 have asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch instead latest vpatch as on previous 99996 and 99997 iterations ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 20:12:51; mod6: If anyone wants to be helpful and test this change, you can find the updated version here: http://www.mod6.net/btcf/build-bitcoind-V99996_2.sh
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1405170 << lol are these even alive?! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 23:03:05; mircea_popescu: and in other "girls for alf" contestant winner news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/a3fde9a27cbdcf73973fdb23d003643f/tumblr_nqijweVkX91uu92gho1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: omg hating the fishes!
mod6: a fuck
mod6: what pete_dushenski?
asciilifeform bbl
pete_dushenski: mod6: weren't we tweaking previous patches by changing that one line to 'malleus' ?
mod6: oh, because the leaf ordering is different. if you want a press of "all" patches as they exist in the mirror, currently, you need to press up through asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch ☟︎
mod6: malleus didn't change. just was reground.
pete_dushenski: aha. nifty.
pete_dushenski: just building '6_2' now. smooth sailing so far :)
mod6: ok good deal. thanks! let us know if the hashes match too plz.
mod6: since I think I've got all the testing of V out of people who can on the beta patches, I'll probably push out v99995 tomorrow.
mod6: last chance to test that beta_2 patch for V if you still want to do so.
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2014/04/20/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/#comment-40462 << the maidsafe pumpers are out in force this weekend. what is it a vaporware fool moon ?
assbot: The Brokenness of MaidSafe | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1R1RYRd )
pete_dushenski: !s maidsafe
assbot: 98 results for 'maidsafe' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=maidsafe
mircea_popescu: that thing still exists ?!
pete_dushenski: lol not even ! it still doesn't !
pete_dushenski: 'three weeks' (tm) (r)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89750 @ 0.00056919 = 51.0848 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: lol
pete_dushenski: but stock is 'up' so everyone's a jumpin' and a jivin' and a takin' them there gurls out to the dance hall tonite !
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BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> my beard is half white << I'm getting to the point that if I keep plucking the white ones out I'll have bald patches soon.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would i pluck em, let 'em be.
mircea_popescu: they earned the right to be there!
BingoBoingo: When they were coming up in singles the looked out of place.
BingoBoingo: Seriously though no gray. Just skipped to a white somewhere between titanium oxide and potasium carbonate
mircea_popescu: lol
pete_dushenski: so nasdaq.com bitches about 'we noticed your ad blocker is on and we kindly request that you turn it off to enhance your user experience'. this is how mpex won. this.
BingoBoingo: I guess I'll stop trying to fight the white hairs on Tuesday.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Why even bother with the ad blocker, just say no to javascript and the obnoxious ones die automagically
pete_dushenski: i suppose there's that too
BingoBoingo: Spam messages are intolerable, javascript is intolerable, but if a site wants to uglify itself with static images and such nbd
BingoBoingo: Not to mention many ad blockers are awfully wasteful of the cpu cycles themselves
pete_dushenski: http://www.unrisd.org/brett-scott << in which the united nations admits that bitcoin isn't for the poor (viz. africa)
assbot: How Can Cryptocurrency and Blockchain Technology Play a Role in Building Social and Solidarity Finance? | Events | UNRISD ... ( http://bit.ly/1R1TjqU )
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: could you recommend a javascript blocker in particular ? using ff here
jurov: pete_dushenski: noscript
BingoBoingo: ^
pete_dushenski: aha i think i used that one before... ty
BingoBoingo: Lets you turn them back on one by one so the rare gem that is helped by javascript works
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Another great way to excise javascript is just giving up and using Dillo as a web browser. It's my favorite for traversing untrusted sites atm
pete_dushenski: i have 'lynxlet'. it's decent.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78985 @ 0.00056662 = 44.7545 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: I don't see that browser in my /usr/ports folder
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: But i mean compare to BitBet << Is there a ClassicCoin bet or just XT? It's like the BFL delivery bets now, but with scamcoins.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30269 @ 0.00055526 = 16.8072 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: mod6: all my hashes on 99996k_2 match :)
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: I've been folowing other bitbet's gotta check that for our enjoyment. Have doubts it would get approved without sizable zeroconf on 'yes'
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: "Lynxlet is an application for launching the text web browser Lynx in a Terminal window. Lynxlet is a Termlet - a class of applications designed to make Terminal based programs easy to use. " << Can't you just use... lynx??? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Why do you need a wrapper for lynx?