phf: it's like the whole thing agitates so many cockroaches in head, goes into complete overload
phf: but couldn't you give it to charity?
phf: they could eat it, or maybe shoes out of it or something
BingoBoingo needs to find a new therapist. Emacs just hasn't been cutting it since I sobered up. Anyone know a better chatbot for this. Preferably one I can run in emacs?
phf: psychotherapy over irc, .5btc/hour
BingoBoingo: That Tay character seems interesting, but I dun wanna run any microshit code or give it seekrits
BingoBoingo: phf: I looking for something that runs locally
danielpbarron: make your own markov bot; those are kinda fun. Feed it your favorite texts and see what comes out
phf: BingoBoingo: did you read weizenbaum's "computer power and human reason", where his opening chapter is basically "people using eliza for actual therapy? my god, why!"
BingoBoingo: phf: I haven't read it, but I don't see anything wrong with the idea
phf: alf recommended it, but i haven't gotten through it yet
phf: well, weizenbaum's point is that "real therapy" relies on empathy, rather than random feedback loop, which is more like divination/insight techniques i might add
BingoBoingo: Well, technically I'm looking for a sponsor more than a therapist
phf: if you are looking for the latter, than i ching, tarot layouts, markov chains trained on philosophical and religious texts
BingoBoingo: So basically emacs therapist, but with occasionally cheesy quotes and a 12 step orientation
phf: 12 step bot, you could buy PAIP and learn to write one yourself, a cleaned up eliza version for common lisp is somewhere there in the later chapters
BingoBoingo: hmmm. I guess making one could be third/fourth or fifth job
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "real" therapy ; which is why unsurprisingly the charlatans are now predicating it on "empathy".
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, the self-important ignorant derps are amusing au naturel, but for the historian of ideas even more so!)
danielpbarron: i burned my i ching books along with my yarrow stalks
phf: mircea_popescu: i can't argue the substance, but in weizenbaum's case he was saying therapy requires empathy, where's therapists were talking up eliza
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron these fucking derps with "the golden rule" already. /me turns the page.
phf: his argument perhaps support what you're saying, because it's reduced to "i wrote this thing, and if you say this is therapy, then you are a waste of space"
phf: i didn't get that far :)
mircea_popescu: therapy is always a subjective endeavour. the "therapist" is ~the wallpaper.
phf: i checked out when he went into a very tedious explanation of what a turing machine is
mircea_popescu: which is why and how lacan was a psychoterapist, but not a scholar.
danielpbarron: apparently there's even a "silver rule" which changes the "do unto" into "don't do unto"
mircea_popescu: probably explains why the drones never seem to have any sex.
mircea_popescu: "oh wait... i don't want anyone to fuck me... so... how about holding hands ?"
phf: danielpbarron: this jason peirce guy is full of shit, he's talking about "early greek versions" like he's got insight trump into true meaning
mircea_popescu: and by "early greek versions" of course he means some shoddy english commentary by some derp who in turn does not read classical greek.
mircea_popescu: but hey, snatch intro scene made derpage on this theme fashionable among the crowd that'd later constitute the fight club electorate.
danielpbarron: right, I don't mind going back to original greek if that's what's actually being done
phf: so i checked p46, and 13:1 is missing, but 13:2 follows the translation that you give
phf: antitasomenos ti eksusia ... feu diatatagi anfestiken
phf: i.e opposition to power/leaders/nofuckingambiguityhere ... god's will opposes
phf: that would be the oldest known copy of romans ~in general~
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron even something like the vulgate (ie, jerome's ancient but otherwise very good latin version) would be useful
mircea_popescu: at least latin is by and large understood, as compared to ancient obscure alexandrine greek
gribble: Error: "up" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: (generally "original greek" refers to the septuagint, ie, the result of an effort that actually predates and likely likely caused christ, to translate the hebrew texts into greek. it was a committee affair sponsored by the ptolemaic autarchy in power in egypt.)
mircea_popescu: but this text was set aside as obscure by scholars as early as five centuries later.
phf: well, i think in this case it's an attempt to throw sand, like "other early scholarly texts i read that you idiots didn't have wholly different words in there"
mircea_popescu: except the ridiculousness of such on the fucking internet... really ?
mircea_popescu: you're gonna be the best read smartest dude out here ? fancy that!
phf: it literally takes an hour of research to refute his claims
mircea_popescu: anyway. there's little doubt, if nothing else for gm reasons, that the original #bible-a was rather anti-establishment ; and then got reshaped into something more tolerant once the wot involved ended up in power irl.
danielpbarron: that's generally my position: not thrilled about non-Bible establishment, but totally in favor of kingdom in which Biblical law is enforced
phf: the savages is painful
PeterL: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: i still can't fathom why bicycle is permitted but not horse. << horses leave piles of stinky shit lying everywhere, nobody wants their roads covered in shit
shinohai: As opposed to stinking hipsters everywhere on bikes?
PeterL: shinohai hipster don't shit in the road
PeterL: danielpbarron do you read things like the gospel of thomas, or do you just stick with what is in the traditional bible?
mircea_popescu: imagine leah's disconcert when teh republic pissed all over her face for JUSRT DOING HER JERB
mircea_popescu: one of the best things to do after breaking up a strike/protest/other "democratic" bs is to isolater hte participants, beat the shit out of them and inquire wtf they thought they were doing there.
shinohai: +asciilifeform ^ answers the old riddle, 'does gavin have to rot in an office' <<< a cage is a cage still, isn't it?
shinohai: whether in home office or standard one.
mircea_popescu: he has his idiosyncratic criteria, which fit the events. and change with teh events.
danielpbarron: PeterL> danielpbarron do you read things like the gospel of thomas << no. just the 66 books
mircea_popescu: if only god had the common sense ot include a hash with the material.
shinohai: Aren't there kabbalists that look for such hashes in Scripture?
phf: mircea_popescu: it's very spot on, it's like everything that happens is a neurotic mannerism, "of course that's what she would say, of course that's what he would do", all the props fit too. painful, because i'm not in argentina and these people are way too familiar
phf: i can also see why it would have a 7/10 rating, because it won't be seen as a satire, the characters are also the audience, words like "poignant" "reconnecting" "estranged" will be used, but of course there all kinds of things to nit pick for connoisseurs of independent movies which are better than hollywood, but are easy to apply npr-speak while completely missing the point, and the meta circularity makes my head heart. hence-- painful
mircea_popescu: now tell me this. you familiar with the five stages of a narrative ?
phf: i thought it was somewhere around the dinner scene where they ask dad questions
phf: well, it's the end of any action on the part of characters, they are sort of agitated from their state by external factors, they act to the limit of their meagre abilities, and that's that. everything else is them settling back into their passivity as a result of that initial agitation
phf: mircea_popescu: the peak of plot?
mircea_popescu: what's next, "the exciting bit" like changingminds.org ?
mircea_popescu: holy shit is the internet braindead btw. fucking websites.
danielpbarron: gavin can't say the things that i can say, and in that sense he is much less free than I am
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron doesn't matter because lemonde.fr isn't going around pretending like what you say matters!!!1eleventeen
danielpbarron: just like Obama can't be that powerful if he can't publicly have a harem
mircea_popescu: phf "the singular act towards which all exposition leads and from which all conclusion follows". that's the classical climax. yes, modern and adultcontempo storytelling does not strictly follow classicism, just like they abandoned the unity of time and place. but the thing still is what it always was.
mircea_popescu: this happens to be a very strictly classical narrative, much to its merit, and adding to its valor. so find it.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron> just like Obama can't be that powerful if he can't publicly have a harem << the excuse here would be that "he could if he wanted to - doesn't want to".
mircea_popescu: phf anyway, take your time. mebbe alf watches it too and he can catch up with teh rest of the class!
mircea_popescu: tmsr-chan now doing literary criticism master's degrees of all things.
phf: yeah, seriously that part of my brain hasn't worked in 20 some years
mircea_popescu: phf hey, and you wanted to teach a computer how to do it!
shinohai thinks asciilifeform believes himself the Russian Prometheus.
phf: it's emergent, neural nets will do it for me
danielpbarron: yeah b.s. Every man would have a harem if he could
mircea_popescu: fwis, nine tenths of everyone'd wear one of those penis shrinker thing and be kept in diapers by a crumb-like woman.
mircea_popescu: no dude. every place, the government it wants and earns.
mircea_popescu: yes decision on part of dulapped. if you ever find an island of castrated males, you found an island of dudes who thought balls hang too heavy for comfort.
mircea_popescu: hey, there's good arguments against moving to other place. your parents took you there neh ?
mircea_popescu: do that to a child, he'll have to... wait for it... adapt to the new environment!!11
mircea_popescu: odds are he won't find the popular girls sexy or even interesting, and so on.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, intelligence is an adaptive trait!
trinque: the texan babes behave just fine. you're in hell.
trinque: and apparently prefer it, lol
mircea_popescu: (intromission in marine mammals doesn't work as in terrestrials. you'd prolly call it... milking.)
trinque: poor alf thinks people put up with fat, stupid people of walmart everywhere on this continent
trinque: ah right, those fembots you mentioned?
phf: ascii perhaps refers to strong dc culture of clubsluts and sorority girls
trinque: he said something about the women having robot faces
mircea_popescu: phf i dunno fucking comprehend the disdain affected (perhaps to the point of believing themselves) by intellectual folk re the pro sluts.
phf: well, it's masked fear
trinque: how is "I am signaling for cock as hard as I can" fear?
mircea_popescu: "the culture of clubsluts and sorority girls" beats any other female culture so far out of the field it can't even be discussed, wtf. you can take one of those and make her a fat borderline sleeve in six weeks. try the fucking other way around
phf: on part of intellectual folk
phf: i have nothing but warm feelings towards clubsluts, they made my mid 20s quite pleasant, before i left dc
mircea_popescu: i'd much rather discuss the scrolls with them than with the others.
phf: but i'm saying i grok what ascii is talking about, because there's strong sorority culture in dc
mircea_popescu: generally, better a clever girl that thinks herself dumb than a dumb girl that thinks she must be clever.
phf: fwiw there's plenty of clever girls in dc club scene, they are predominantly american,gwu,georgetown or else educated transplants, not to mention lots of foreigners
mircea_popescu: trinque not even signalling for cock. anti-signalling for male fears > 9000.
phf: it's just not the "easy" clever
mircea_popescu: phf half the time it's not the schooled clever, which is just as well.
mircea_popescu: local lulz here. tall blondy aspiring to be a stewardess wants to know where i work. "i don't work" "then what do you do ?" "whatever i feel like." she's thoroughly confused, enlists help. "how do i pay for things ??" "with money." "yes!!!". eventually girl that knows me rescues them, "oh, he's in finance". NOW they're satisfied! "omg you liar!11"
mircea_popescu: because apparently work doesn't mean iho what i thought it would.
mircea_popescu: it's not "what you do, whether you make any money or not, ie work", but "how do you get the money, whether you do anything or not, ie, social-proof".
phf: i work in mergers and acquisitions
trinque: heh, she met a quasi-mythical creature. an owner.
mircea_popescu: trinque quite unheard of here. whole fucking place is a socialist wet dream, nobody owns anything. did i recount the lulz of the local gambling baron ?
phf: i thought owners are always mercurial about their answers that sort of questions. i'm yet to see one who goes "yeah, i own companies"
mircea_popescu: phf i met tons of guys that went "yeah baby i'm ap roducer"
mircea_popescu: trinque ok, ima befoul the logs with this nonsense then.
mircea_popescu: so, one cristobal lopez is one of the country's greatest "owners". originally, there was a gambling boat made by some spanish company, taking advantage of the unclear jurisdiction situation and the inept and slow workings of the ar courts. they invested 10mn and took home 100mn the first year.
mircea_popescu: the local smartasses took over, and created "the largest agglomeration of slot machines in the world" in this circus tent on the grounds of the old hippodrome
phf: well, exactly those guys are not producers
mircea_popescu: the thing owes in taxes, if its own word is to be believed, about half a BILLION dollars for the past decade.
mircea_popescu: during which decade it paid NOTHING. nor kept any sort of auditable books.
mircea_popescu: the reason is, that there was some dispute between city and federal government as to who should be paid. and this derp went whatevers, and never paid anything.
mircea_popescu: so now "his" media, which obviously was cristina-friendly, pissed off macri, who won. and so they're going to have a falling out and the thing is going to be "privatized" or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: the whole charade is, government borrows, spends and taxes, creates cardboard "businessmen" that exist principally to have what to hang whenever needed and vorwarts!
trinque went on a tirade to new lady friend yesterday about the complete lack of ownership in USistan.
mircea_popescu: and the start and end of it all is, these atrocious fucktards, who think "sadly there's too many bars" and the whole surface of club in buenos aires would fit in one sane club in a sane place,
☟︎ mircea_popescu: nevertheless spent billions of dollars in the shitty slots.
mircea_popescu: what horse races ? what anything ? all they want is the shitty slot machine, because there they can sit in their own stinky juices.
mircea_popescu: that's the whole argentinian life. that's what derpy chick does : dreams about being stewardess, watches netflix and plays slots.
mircea_popescu: parillada libre!!1 mate en el parque!!11 they're cheaper to keep than hens.
mircea_popescu: i don't mean "than their weight in hens" even. headcount ffs. not even footcount.
mircea_popescu: i don't particularly like clever girl that thinks self clever, no.
mircea_popescu: clever woman that thinks self clever, sure. provided ACTUALLY IS.
mircea_popescu: hey, i've made all sorts of beautiful things with clever women that were self-aware.
phf: i don't grok, explain
trinque: not a human skull, but y'know, WIP!!
phf: don't like outside, because need to put on pants
mircea_popescu: proper boy hangs around hunting camp, too. wtf is htis
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well specified is not in itself valuable. gotta be REASONED.
hanbot: <asciilifeform> proper gurl hangs out in maths library, among the theorems. << why can't she do both?
phf: i guess the point is that asciilifeform doesn't like club sluts, wants his girls as math phds only. but periodically, and that was the issue, he sneaks in the idea that there's something deficient about girls that go to clubs, i.e. they are not clever or smart, they are animals, etc.
mircea_popescu: he has an entire list of these that he keeps restating no matter what.
phf: asciilifeform: that is outright wrong
mircea_popescu: you understand how very fucking vulnerable this thing makes you ?
phf: i.e. they smell of sweat because they were dancing?
hanbot: heh asciilifeform or they're lonely af because men who'd be into 'em make all kinds of assumptions.
mircea_popescu: if "smell of animal" matters, i bet you i can get you married with an utter imbecile just by exploiting "smells of library".
phf: mircea_popescu: it's a thing, look at recent usg "nerd culture"
mircea_popescu: phf actually there's a very funny thing re that, girls never smell of earnest sweat. every place has a consensus-chosen chem barrier for that.
trinque: asciilifeform: what's wrong with you teaching her math?
trinque: I've at least taught every gf I've had to code.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so your resistence is chiefly based on, "nsa is incompetent, never got an actual intellect behind the effort to fuck up my miserable rng source"
phf: asciilifeform: i think we're saying that you're making familiar assumptions, that are not true, and that you're missing out from that, or at the very least are saying falsehoods.
mircea_popescu: i don't credit the "missing out" angle, he can't possibly be missing what he's not missing.
trinque: asciilifeform: so you're a dude!
trinque: and what's wrong with her looking nice?
mircea_popescu: this is like despising cooking. it's a fucking seat in the academy, for rights!
phf: asciilifeform: sure, i don't take issue with your preferences, it's your trying to frame it in value terms that we share. oh club sluts are stupid, real smart girls only hang out at libraries where alf feels it safe to approach them
mircea_popescu: it's outrageous, i don't think i ever saw an intelligent girl in a library.
mircea_popescu: phf fwiw, i did personally see him in the nude and fuck whoever club, he didn't melt.
phf: mircea_popescu: you saw asciilifeform in the nude? now i too am confused by this thread
mircea_popescu: personally i was rooting on davout taking the weirdo german chick home. or at least pistols at dawn with ben_vulpes ; something. but alas...
mircea_popescu: well, ok, but look at the benefits. you can now scare people with your personal history!
mircea_popescu: now we finally understand all those anal insertion and genital mutilation comments IN THEIR RIGHTFUL CONTEXT.
mircea_popescu: hanbot do you rtecall which te fuck this was btw ? i thought it was the subasta de esclavas thing, buncha naked girlies on sale
hanbot: ah yeah, but they were local-nekkid
hanbot: pubis necessarily covered
hanbot: mircea_popescu she wasn't
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know you could have just walked to any and asked to see her parts.
mircea_popescu: how are you going to get your immunity up if you don't ingest enough viral load ?
hanbot: subte is pretty cruel.
mircea_popescu: hanbot i think chetty took them for a death spin or something.
mircea_popescu: possibly best collection of obscure pathogens in the world. whenever i go my eyes water.
mircea_popescu: drinking by the bottle, going to pervy clubs, all the while pretending library is criteria! YOUR HIPOCRISY IS NAO EXPOSED!
mircea_popescu: just you wait when alf-jr finds this and you have some 'splainin' to do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> hey in america this is how 'experts' usually develop 'reputation', by maybe walking past a warehouse that was a lab once in 1950s on a stroll etc. <<< #trilema, with a collective pervy experience of > 50 years...
phf: they are not touching red line, because there's where white people are at
phf: perhaps kako is convinced that there's no possible future for bitbet post-receivership?
phf: i left because conversation is dead and there's no attempt to revive it. it seems like the only shared thing between those left is hatred for mp, which is not particularly good community builder. last thing i saw was nubbins repeating the same point he made about 4 times now about MPEX trade volume
mircea_popescu: it got in trouble, was reorganized, works again. this is more reputation than apple has
mircea_popescu: certainly a cheap answer to "who are you again". spend whatever to buy it, put in the time to keep it going, problem solved.
mircea_popescu: arguably easier (or at least more accessible) work than slaving butt off to recreate ai like phf's been trying.
trinque: later today or tomorrow, nearly done.
mircea_popescu: davout the thing you published misses a crucial element. there's a (or two) lists of addresses bitbet was to use, signed by me. got them ?
phf: (davout shouldn't auction bids be signed?)
shinohai: If only there was a BitBet to bet on who will win BB in auction.
phf: *compute compute compute* REJECTED
trinque: it's bitching about expired key on the server side
trinque: I assume they plan to beat Apple on the head with "your phones aren't as s3kur3 as you claim" until... something
trinque: presumably bending over more obediently
trinque: or simply publically normalizing overt collaboration with govt
BingoBoingo: Prolly Just something Apple's going to use to speed adoption of iOSX
mircea_popescu: shinohai> If only there was a BitBet to bet on who will win BB in auction. << bwahaha
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> (but it is dumb in any other context) << orly. because why, because "everyone" is held to UPDATE crypto material at hitler's beak an' call, through a poorly specified process ?
mircea_popescu: and fuck fucking cloudflare. it m,ay not fucking exist.
PeterL: what benefit does having new key offer?
mircea_popescu: and there's plenty wrong with new key signed with old. sign both with the same master.
mircea_popescu: so i did. none of this maps on the "update" process in any way extant.
mircea_popescu: if rsa is broken, we have an event of the nature of "end of b-a" not of the nature of "an update".
mod6: we need a loggerthingy for #trilema
mod6: or is someone working on that?
danielpbarron: i thought that guy was adding it himself until i saw one in the middle of your signed bid
PeterL: or did he just copy alf's signed comment and insert the junk inside?
phf: that's only signed comment
phf: all coined transfered to malasia!
PeterL: good thing you signed the bid, I guess
danielpbarron: all the numbers. the other guys' "my 2 cents" became "my <video> cents"
davout: ok, so apparently it's one of the plugins i had installed
davout: asciilifeform: ty for screaming loud enough to wake me up!
davout: asciilifeform: "room-temperature-cheese." <<< where i'm from, all cheese is room temperature cheese
davout: i have, in the us, but we also have that kind of food here, food that doesn't rot
PeterL: velveeta? my mother-in-law uses the stuff to make mac-and-cheese, even my kids think it is kinda gross
PeterL: proper preservative techniques?
PeterL: davout do you mean you have "real food" that does not rot, or that you also have non-rotting "food" like in US?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> davout's box 0wn3d ? << seems that way ? o.O
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform proper cheese is never refrigerated either.
mircea_popescu: some exceptions, but by and large cheese exists so you can preserve food in cool conditions.
mircea_popescu: lol. it's not the english "nasal". sounds more like the voewel in undEr.
mircea_popescu: anyway. century old cheese invented literally in the place i was born.
PeterL: the cheese keeps for a century?
mircea_popescu: but it was uniquely made in that particular cave, twenty miles from cluj
mircea_popescu: even something as banal as caciocavallo, once properly sealed will be happy for many years.
mircea_popescu: it's actually very good, but it's also not possible a decent italian colonials/grocer doesn't have some.
mircea_popescu: possibly oldest cheese in the world, herodotus attests.
BingoBoingo: Few thing more worth fighting over than a good cave
pete_dushenski: in better news, praise be to eligius for incorporating yesterday's [absent-minded] 0feetx! only took ~22hrs...
pete_dushenski: re: auction, i've taken the liberty of putting the bug in a few ears to see if some interest can't be drummed up.
pete_dushenski: congrats to asciilifeform on being top bidder thus far. i'd actually like to see him take it down.
mircea_popescu: check that out danielpbarron close to one billion ecu!
pete_dushenski: i could see bbet fetching 20 btc. more than that would be [pleasantly] surprising.
mircea_popescu: anyway, not that many business extant whose liquidation value actually goes into double digit btc.
mircea_popescu: certainly nothing in bitcoin, whatever derpy webwallet, vertified domain name etc.
davout: mircea_popescu: re the signed addresses list: i'm looking into it
danielpbarron: what what point in an Euloran auction would the bidders be asked to sign something?
davout: pete_dushenski: i did not know jetpack was such a pos, learn something new everyday
danielpbarron: pretty sure we'd get up to 10 btc and still not sign anything
mircea_popescu: i doubt it really, prolly just ban the offender from future auctions.
mircea_popescu: davout very dubious idea to run plugins or w/e you've not [had] read.
mircea_popescu: they're all shit. wordpress itself exists, as the deliberately-maintained ddos feature attests, principally FOR this.
mircea_popescu: it's what automattic / mullenberg dedicate their working hours to.
pete_dushenski: davout: iirc jetpack offers some nifty functionality, i even ran it myself back in the car blogging days, but yea, it's too messy to audit, so too messy to use anymore
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron tho in fairness if you add all official s.mg auctions up, you get something more like 6 btc i think ? so yeah. totallies.
BingoBoingo: Autocrappic has been moving basic wordpress functions into Jetpack's outsourcing for years. Eventually Wordpress is going to be a jetpack plugin
davout: asciilifeform: no, which is why no mandatory sigs
davout: let's all outbid each other, for the motherland
mircea_popescu: there's no alternative to that "in principle" other than the retarded half-ass nonsense the fiats practice
mircea_popescu: last thing we fucking need is some sort of "authority" to "permit" capitalism.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you'll agree to a lot of grudgingly before this btc thing is done. there's 0 diff between this and the haircut issue other than how close to your heart it pulls.
mircea_popescu: idem. whatever liquidates, liquidates. this is what the word means.
mircea_popescu: we live in a not-content-free world, unlike everyone else everywhere else.
mircea_popescu: as far as i can see on the table there's used condoms.
mircea_popescu: if liquidates then definitionally "the love that was".
mircea_popescu: the alternative to sanity is that you'll find yourself being blackmailed with your own shit. which is what usualloy happens to stupid women, that can't discern between love and the used condoms.
mircea_popescu: and she can't fucking kill the greasespot on the spot with her own hands.
mircea_popescu: i can't elaborate in a void! you gotta produce something.
mircea_popescu: an ITEM can not be LOVE. it is just an item. ie, a used condom.
mircea_popescu: however arbitrarily related to love you may make it, an item is and forever remains that.
mircea_popescu: i don't think this border can be smudged. sure, crypto makes it more difficult [for some people] to notice it.
mircea_popescu: the notion that you'll keep the gates of the town really really tight so as to keep out any plague of locusts and any visitation by pillars of salt is naive at best.
trinque: rather than the business formerly known as bitbet
mircea_popescu: there's absolutely no relation between the "love" bitbet you're discussing and the thing you're bidding on.
danielpbarron: gotta say, I'd prolly use bitbet again if asciilifeform is the owner/operator
mircea_popescu: consider a house. if a woman i loved died there, i might not have any further use for the item, not even as fire kindle.
mircea_popescu: this does not prevent a young woman and her husband from moving in THE SAME HOUSE and living a happy life.
davout: mircea_popescu: the signed lists of addresses are now linked at the bottom of the report
mircea_popescu: also why is not selling for the ~1k btc it was trading for, last month
mircea_popescu: davout very nice. see, now there's a very strong chain of claims, right ?
mircea_popescu: you signed these addresses ; here's what they contain ; here's what that means etc.
mircea_popescu: bout 1000x better than anything fiat ever managed, in ~3500 years of trying, ever since the babylonian signet rolls.
mircea_popescu: ya, sure. find me the man who wasn't using sha1 in 2011.
davout: they have been paid to the addresses listed in mp's signed statement
mircea_popescu: he sez there's more btc owed to bettors than what he received ; ima be reviewing teh lists.
pete_dushenski: "The other idiot is a very housewife." << missing word here ?
mircea_popescu: i may not be a cunning linguist, but i'll sure as hell rape the shit out of the language.
hanbot: trilema is a language speculum. yesterday i got stuck on "Does the mint flower to welcome the butterflies where you live ?"
hanbot: asciilifeform some parsers are better'n others
pete_dushenski: so yes, 9btc ferrari would need to be missing doors, engine, and be firmly in the 30-35 year-old range in the darkest depths of its depreciation curve
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski so basically whgat's 9btc buy you, abooth at the car themed cafe ?
pete_dushenski: cologne, hat, and watch. or a trip to monaco for the gp.
pete_dushenski: mega-jews from iran who moved to edmonton in the 80s. paid off city council. made waves.
gernika: asciilifeform: fyi I made a trip to eetools HQ today and came back home with a curiosity: EmMax plus rom emulator - connects to LPT port - comes with console app. It does *not* however appear to support dos - win95 is as far back as it goes it seems.
gernika: My Thinkpad t43 appears to have one.
gernika: I will probably return it to them, since I also brought back a replacement eerom-8u that worx, as opposed to the first one they sent me.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: anyways, if monaco's not your jam, there's always baku, sochi, montreal, singapore, or if you're looking for sluts, sao paolo
pete_dushenski: grand prix always light a city up with fast girls and mega-parties
mod6: sluts are universal
pete_dushenski: in other news, californians can now lease a 2015 electric ford focus for $81/mo. don't all rush to the stealerships at once now. single file, plz.
pete_dushenski: this has been a Cheep Pete's Frugal Tips For Not Being A Poorfag tip