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phf: bb is man with a mission
mircea_popescu: Eric L. Spaulding <espaulding@colgate.edu>; Public Exponent 524289 is NOT PRIME ! o.O
mircea_popescu: also ubertons of fsfe people. it's odd, seeing how fsf i thought was mostly a us item.
mircea_popescu: Public Exponent 35 is NOT PRIME ! User(s): root@stallman.mayfirst.org; << check it out phf :D
phf: it looks like that's their mail server, kind of an odd name, but i don't think RMS is involved
mircea_popescu: there's also a didier. and so on. seems they go by the ancient tradition of giving users a subnet
mircea_popescu: ie if i were an user i'd log as root@popescu.mayfirst.org rather than the more common nowadays.
mircea_popescu: but that aside, obviously all local names are arbitrary from the global perspective.
phf: Stephen Mahood, Outreach and Communication Coordinator, "Most of his technical experience came from his work with Occupy Boston IT and May First/People Link, where he combined labor organizing and technical skills to support organizations focused on systemic change."
mircea_popescu: i dunno about the "labor organizing" skills involved, but if they're at the same script kiddie level his technical skills belie, he's just right for the democratic party astroturf dept.
phf: that's what i'm thinking
phf: fake occupiers with a convenient set of diddle keys?
mircea_popescu: kinda clashes with the derpage about how "the fsf doesn't consult rms because he's too slow for school"
shinohai: asciilifeform: any eta on the rsa feed? I used to have it connected to my bot.
☟︎ mats: lots of these folks have the same smell
mats: i encountered a professional tibetan panhandler in univ and asked him during the q&a wut exactly his end game was re: china (e.g. revolution by violent means? establishment of 's.a.r.' like .hk? macau?)
mats: chuckled nervously, dodged the entire question, then talked about how important donations were to tibetan freedom and wutever the fuck
mats: he bragged for a few mins at the end of his presentation about how he got to work in downtown d.c., rubbed shoulders with 'important people', traveled all the time to speak at prestigious events
☟︎ mats: afterwards i asked him how he ended up in the role and it turned out he did some shit for occupy
mats: that's when i realized its possible to have a career being a useless person
mircea_popescu: not exactly useless. in socialism, political posturing is the first and often only "useful" activity.
mircea_popescu: anyway. tibet used to be, roughly speaking, southern california of china. it got the mongolian hordes in the midwest all occupied, and more likely to put up with the emperor in washingtonjing.
mircea_popescu: phf incidentally, you happy with the log ? am i moving links over ?
phf: only thing is that i still need to add /?date=01-12-2013 handler
phf: (it's trickier then it would appear to any rational being, because the url handler that i'm using is all kinds of idiotic, i need to rip it)
phf: no, i say just wait about a day
phf: i was going to fuck around with annotations tomorrow, but i can do url fixes instead
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 hope you aren't kilt ded
phf: or something along those lines
mircea_popescu: ok, i'm out roflmao. gonna wait a day for YOUR "all kinds of idiotic" to be fixed
phf: well, my idiocies i bring on myself, so they can be carefully undone
a111: Logged on 2016-04-21 02:55 asciilifeform: ;;later tell hanbot there.
mircea_popescu: in other "fat women pictures and other non-news", retardopedia has a lengthy article on nobody in particular :
mircea_popescu: The Yes Men are a culture jamming activist duo and network of supporters created by Jacques Servin and Igor Vamos.[1] Through actions of tactical media,[citation needed] the Yes Men primarily aim to raise awareness about what they consider problematic social and political issues. To date, the duo has produced three films: The Yes Men (2003), The Yes Men Fix the World (2009)[1] and The Yes Men Are Revolting (2014). In these fi
mircea_popescu: lms, they impersonate entities that they dislike, a practice that they call "identity correction". The Yes Men operate under the mission statement that lies can expose truth. They create and maintain fake websites similar to ones they intend to spoof, which have led to numerous interview, conference, and TV talk show invitations. They espouse the belief that corporations and governmental organizations often act in dehumanizin
mircea_popescu: "According to Servin, the Yes Men concept initially sprang from their creation of a fake website spoofing the World Trade Organization. To the surprise of Servin and Vamos, many believed the site to be authentic, and the two were consequently contacted to speak at a conference in Austria. Since this time, the Yes Men have continued performing large-scale hoaxes, in what they describe as a collaborative effort with journalists
mircea_popescu: to help the media tell stories which they believe are important"
mircea_popescu: the usg, ever more distant from reality. after michael moore-level break from reality of the 90s, moving on to complete psychosis. soon to reach best korea level of mental confusion, im sure that fat schmuck was anally battering women called "Capitalism" and whatnot.
phf: i think most of it didn't survive through 90s, or turned dully political, like billboard liberation front
phf: i think yes men come from that line, but completely devoid of artistic merit, with only leftist moore style commentary left
phf: boyd rice is as much of a major musicians, i'm not trash talking, i love that stuff.
mircea_popescu: but i mean... there's zero relation between the fact that cool people in paris cca 1800 drank coffee and starbucks. what coffee culture.
phf: well, right, but my point is, to use the analogy, that starbucks wouldn't have anything to poach if there weren't paris cafes
mircea_popescu: im not even sure. there weren't paris soda fountains, for instance.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-22 16:53 asciilifeform: i actually wanted phuctor.nosuchlabs.com
a111: Logged on 2016-04-23 01:40 shinohai: asciilifeform: any eta on the rsa feed? I used to have it connected to my bot.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-23 01:46 mats: he bragged for a few mins at the end of his presentation about how he got to work in downtown d.c., rubbed shoulders with 'important people', traveled all the time to speak at prestigious events
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the perennial permanence of this scum accounted for the very ambivalent reaction east block refugees received, which was the first desilusionment for most eastern people.
mircea_popescu: of course by now it matters relatively little, nobody in his right mind would seriously propose the west has anything to say or offer.
phf: when i was out last saturday "on the town", every other girl was from ohio, indiana, illinois. it turned into a game at some point. team ohio won
phf: it's not worth it, it's easy to get them to go to a bathroom with you then deliver that punchline
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mircea_popescu: Public Exponent 1 is NOT PRIME ! User(s): Michael Kmiec <mk@bitwise.net>;
mircea_popescu: well no, given keys A and B, getting B's modulus to appear on A requires one of the two to collaborate
mircea_popescu: it's a matter of audience. the people who think gavin is a person don't grok all this ; the rest would be counter-affected.
mircea_popescu: what was the total count again ? 20mn ? like 3-4% loaded yet ?
ben_vulpes: one could also iterate over github usernames
ben_vulpes: perhaps some time will free up after this expose-child-to-great-grandmother-in-flyover-states-before-she-exits-gracefully concludes
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do ssh keys need any mangling to be digestable by phuctor?
mircea_popescu: by no means undoable. a dump of github ssh keys as is will be useful.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how large was the sks dump?
mircea_popescu: quick question : what do Northrop Grumman and Joe Bradley <bradley@ait.nrl.navy.mil> have in common ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose there's a DOUBLEWORD to describe this particular flavour of sigint rite ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, random wannabe, part of some derpy bitcoin vctronium, keeps spewing words on social media.
davout: asciilifeform mircea_popescu he's the hashcash guy iirc
mircea_popescu: yaya, he popped out of nowhere last year trying to be relevant.
shinohai: The lulz continiue ... a .mil this time xD
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i put the first in log myself! but teh second bwahahah. hightop eh.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if 14 in every 1000 bitcoin addies are broken
mircea_popescu: all the shit i never read, i am cursed to forever rewrite.
mircea_popescu: anyway, no education is contemplated. more like critical existential failure.
mircea_popescu: and when i say "he codes well", what i mean is of the following type : yes he nearly moved the site before building the link bridge. BUT! that is easily fixed. what is not easily fixed is that everyone else would have made a link bridge that treated /gpgkey/xxx correctly, but left /stat hanging. he didn't, his /stat redirects correctly also.
mircea_popescu: what happened to "fuck you, i use physical terms because i invented all of it and if you don't understand anything tell your father to stop drinking."
phf: well, he's normally that, but he's also into Eastern Spirituality so he's zen until provoked
phf: i could through a handful of pages before giving up, the book cover is just obnoxious
mircea_popescu: is he the sort of tard that twu wuvs some sort of derpy yoko ono "artist" woman
mircea_popescu: veliky hamster lol. "this cover made by a graphical artist whose distinction is that the text is somewhat funny."
mircea_popescu: my better ones had plain producer markings (AGFA in thick red font was the best thing of my childhood). the cruddier ones had xerox'd pictures of who knows what.
mircea_popescu: "Физическая сторона вопроса на самом деле не особо для меня важна. Но она довольно интересна. Во времена Галилея и Коперника полагалось во вступлении делать реверанс в сторону церковной догмы и соотносить с ней все гипотезы и предполо
mircea_popescu: жения, а сегодня мы должны точно так же кланяться догме научной. И если я говорю иногда про «мультиверс» и «многомерность», я делаю это примерно с теми же чувствами, с которыми Галилео мог бы упоминать в своей книге пророка Исайю и Анге
mircea_popescu: лов Божьих: с робкой верой, что Святое Писание понято мной, грешным колдуном, хоть отчасти правильно."
mircea_popescu: this habit of "introduction" and "setting" and "explaining" and generally being a borderline sleeve neurotic tard is what sinks most writers that ever had a prayer. for the love of fuck - it's EXACTLY like talking to the police. NEVER say anything. not ever. fuck the intro - if the reader can't figure one out that works for him, he has no business reading.
mircea_popescu: i can't begin to tell you how many lashes i distributed to innocent slave girls that wanted to start with a summary, a pile of hedges, some insurance, contextualization and what the fuck now.
phf: mircea_popescu: pretty sure that's meta-narrative, i.e. introduction written by inept first person
mircea_popescu: phf anyone ever told you what a white knight you are ?
phf: that's one of the reasons why i couldn't get through far, i read enough of that shit online, to also read emulated version
phf: only in tmsr would i be the gentlest one ha
☟︎ phf: i think criticism is particularly painful when comes from place of precise understanding. then there's no excuse of "i was misunderstood!!". no, you were understood, and you suck.
BingoBoingo: phf: Being the gentle on in TMSR is a phase most people grow out of.
mircea_popescu: мультивер and многомерност. mult... hey, russian actually has the aproximate lateral palatal ?! i had no idea.
mircea_popescu: anyway. multivers and mnogomernost. maybe useful later.
mircea_popescu: (traditionally, ʎ is very much a spanish sound, if you look at a map it's pretty much latin america)
phf: "Похож на русский «ль»[lj], однако если в русском языке этот согласный звук палатализуется кончиком языка, то в некоторых других языках мира, например в итальянском языке этот звук палатализуется серединой языка, прикасающейся к твёрдому небу."
mircea_popescu: this has got to be debatable. over here you can't get two derps to pronounce ll the same way you telling me stalin managed somehow ?
mod6: no worries, was saying in jest :}
mircea_popescu: yes yes, this conversation'd have sounded pretty lulzy in mpscii.
mod6: these kids are doing all sorts of funny things with these keys
mircea_popescu: phf that is correct, nevertheless, only little bitches shy from pain. girl can learn to move into the lash within a few months. writer should be fucking born with it.
mircea_popescu: (and yes, that's approximately the first and best measure of trained slave - does she move into the lash ?)
phf: that is a very precise definition of white knight
a111: Logged on 2016-04-23 17:19 phf: only in tmsr would i be the gentlest one ha
phf: i was just marveling at the idea that you can you bludgeon and scalpel from the same cause, but always going for the second one reveals something about a thought process
mircea_popescu: (term of art, discussed here once, but it is possible i was speaking to myself)
mircea_popescu: if i ever write a novel about russians, fucking and lying it will be titled exactly that. Tretyi Zhurnalist, Dama.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform are items on the sadmod page presented in random order ?
phf: exponent fits in head
deedbot: Apocalyptic voiced for 30 minutes.
Apocalyptic: however no fucking way to date the result, hence to get the whole conversation about it. Seems quite useless
Apocalyptic: Re "However, e must be coprimeiii with phi(N), because otherwise messages encrypted can no longer be singularily decrypted (ie, the decryption process allows multiple ambiguous solutions)" it's not even that there are multiple solutions, but afaik there is no algo with a reasonable complexity to even recover them, since this implies computing an n-th root in Z/NZ
Apocalyptic: "In practice, however, it is a lot cheaper to pick a prime exponent, than to check and make sure the exponent shares no factors with N or phi(N)" is there even something checking that e is coprime to N ? this would mean that e is necessarily a multiple of p or q, a case you would be extremely unlucky to get, in the somehow dubious case your e is larger than any of those prime. In the more usual case w
Apocalyptic: here it's smaller there is no chance at all this happens obviously
Apocalyptic: nevermind that search part, I missed the link
deedbot: Apocalyptic voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> srsly, e == 1 ?!!! << i had one on trilema article too. it's mindbending
mircea_popescu: and yes, it's practically lost, but i was keeping it more on a math level. possibly should put it as comment there.
Apocalyptic: it wasn't quite obvious that the bold nickname is in fact a link, I think it would help to have the date with the link before the name like in the b-a log
mircea_popescu: tho to be fair iirc they were getting results with computing n-th roots
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic i like this style, works easier to copy/paste.
Apocalyptic: afaik square roots are quite doable, higher not so much, but this I only remember this vaguely
mircea_popescu: well last i looked at it the field appeared to be moving, is all i'm saying.
mircea_popescu: bear in mind some of these exponents are actually 1 x.x
Apocalyptic: in Z/pZ where p is prime , if p = 1 (mod 4) it can be done in O(log^3 p), that I know
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic note the weak Northrop Grumman / navy.mil keys were all 2^n + 1, ie 16385
Apocalyptic: (back to the Z/pZ case, if p = 3 (mod 4), the square root of c is simply c^((p+1)/4), so just a simple exponentiation)
Apocalyptic: no idea why these weird exponents were chosen
mircea_popescu: 35 mod 4 = 3. we don't know the p, but if you were given to guess, it wouldn't be such a crazy guess to guess it also is.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic especially the non-mirrored 32 bit ones, yeah.
mircea_popescu: (if you recall that was part of the suppression, originally)
Apocalyptic: <+mircea_popescu> 35 mod 4 = 3 // yes, but this isn't related as the RSA arithm doesn't happen in Z/35Z, let alone that 35 isn't prime
mircea_popescu: i'm just saying, yes daughters are daughters, but they live in the same house and if one's a slut...
mircea_popescu: too much weird going on for my taste, s'all i'm saying.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually there's somewhere in log you were discussing some webturd proposing e = 1 or somesuch few days ago ? can't seem to find it.
Apocalyptic: actually, since you have an easily explicitly computable homomorphism between Z/pqZ and Z/pZ x Z/qZ, solving a square root in Z/NZ is as easy as solving it in Z/pZ for each prime factor p of N
Apocalyptic: so yeah you can do square roots in Z/NZ easily if you factor N
deedbot: Apocalyptic voiced for 30 minutes.
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deedbot: mircea_popescu has not rated Apocalyptic.
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Apocalyptic: dude you rated me already, a long time ago
Apocalyptic: I am very well in the WoT, I was even a lord at some point
mircea_popescu: i thoughjt so, but the machine disagrees. were you using a different capitalisation ?
Apocalyptic: somehow the WoT split from b-a must have been messed up
BingoBoingo: Ah deedbot case sensitivity strikes again.
mircea_popescu: he should be a 2, from 2014. apparently is not ? wtf. trinque any idea ?
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Urls are not case sensitive. Check between the title tags on the page
mircea_popescu: yeah apparently btcalpha hgas him lowercase. no idea wtf this is.
mircea_popescu: sorry bout that Apocalyptic should be fixed and you'll be able to selfvoice.
BingoBoingo: voicing is not case sensitive. Just rating, etc
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu: I tried to voice up privately with deedbot, didn't work out
mircea_popescu: any weabos in the audience wanna tell me what they think yomi means ?
shinohai: Japanese for "Land of the dead"
mircea_popescu: not that. as in on'yomi and kun'yomi. the reading/strategy yomi.
shinohai: Sorry my shinto religious detector went off
mircea_popescu: the underworld tinge is very good, but the actual meaning must be available.
phf: actually no that's yomu, yomi means "reading"
shinohai: Now that I am addicted to writing Qntra stuff, I can't find a single thing to write about today.
phf: as i get closer to web, i get exposure to insanity radiation
☟︎ phf: ~some~ browsers don't preserve fragments during redirects, so /log/?date=01-02-2012#123 redirect idea doesn't work, because #123 gets lost. selectively.
phf: looks like asciilifeform will get his "old style" urls after all
phf: can probably just render the page when ?date= is provided, but doing any sort of cleaning around fixes the url
a111: Logged on 2016-04-23 23:41 phf: as i get closer to web, i get exposure to insanity radiation
phf: /log/?date=01-02-2012#123 sometimes becomes /log/2012-02-01#123 and sometimes /log/2012-02-01, and that's fully browser dependent