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mod6: Happy to provide the 12G log if you want that, or a shorter one that shows on 22nd or 23rd my node starting, then getting wedged after wave.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: we'll be ridin' them horsies. cuz aint got shortwave net yet.
asciilifeform: i suspect that mp_en_viaje will yet have occasion to say 'thank you' to asciilifeform for having 'wasted time' discovering how to undetectably and reliably shortwave.
asciilifeform: my contention 'clock is luxury' is based on thought similar to mircea_popescu's, i.e. it dun make sense to bother unless yer doing shortwave or similar application where the intervals gotta be utterly fixed or no go entirely
asciilifeform: the ro people have 1 thing tho : the afaik single biggest shortwave antenna in the whole city. ( pictured e.g. here )
a111: Logged on 2013-04-15 00:28 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly relevant to your future "Bitcoin over shortwave" station: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a207831.pdf
OriansJ: well lets see, we can add a short wave radio but that might be blocked with tempest hardware layers
asciilifeform: can even learn from a half-working shortwave set, if must.
asciilifeform: worx on all xray. 'harder' (shorter wave) needs moar holes.
BingoBoingo: Can't let it happen on short wave
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lulzy -- apparently cia forgot how to shortwave ?!
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 01:18 phf: "The l0de radio hour is a long-running live call-in show that irregularly broadcasts over the internet, and to pirate shortwave and FM stations. It is hosted by Lode Ray Dio, a gypsy hustler with a long history of fraud, grifting, and treason. The show is notable for its frequent cancellations, obscene and bizarre content, and a high rate of listener suicide."
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 01:18 phf: "The l0de radio hour is a long-running live call-in show that irregularly broadcasts over the internet, and to pirate shortwave and FM stations. It is hosted by Lode Ray Dio, a gypsy hustler with a long history of fraud, grifting, and treason. The show is notable for its frequent cancellations, obscene and bizarre content, and a high rate of listener suicide."
a111: Logged on 2018-06-15 16:47 asciilifeform surveyed what remains of shortwave , it's mostly empty, and what remains is largely these derps, 'texas can you hear me' 'this is utah, we can hear you' etc etc
asciilifeform: mprisoned' uwb to a uselessly short wavelength ( 2-4GHz, with a dip at 3 to 'avoid interfere with gps' ). the academitards naturally bent over backwards , killing whole forest printing paperola re 'optimal fcc-compliant gaussian pulse generation', some konsoomer crud was sold with 'uwb' to transmit vga over 3-4 metres in a room, and that was that.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-17 03:24 Mocky: if shortwave repeater was in l1 confidence and one day i became l1, i wouldn't see having to keep that secret as a burden.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-17 02:13 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought of 1 far-conveyor item where i actually had it in my notes 'to be for l1 encyclical only' -- the shortwave repeater
Mocky: if shortwave repeater was in l1 confidence and one day i became l1, i wouldn't see having to keep that secret as a burden. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought of 1 far-conveyor item where i actually had it in my notes 'to be for l1 encyclical only' -- the shortwave repeater ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-15 16:47 asciilifeform surveyed what remains of shortwave , it's mostly empty, and what remains is largely these derps, 'texas can you hear me' 'this is utah, we can hear you' etc etc
asciilifeform: the ubiquitous realtek sdr dongle is unfortunately wholly worthless for shortwave work
asciilifeform: ( when asciilifeform was running number for a -- so far, paper-only , gedankenexperiment -- shortwave gossipd station, realized that the traditional outlandish bulk of 1000+w shortwave transmitter, is unnecessary if you only care to transmit millisecond bursts a couple times per hr ; can have fairly compact and inexpensive item, not normally seen in 'heavy' pirate radio experience )
asciilifeform surveyed what remains of shortwave , it's mostly empty, and what remains is largely these derps, 'texas can you hear me' 'this is utah, we can hear you' etc etc ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-25 03:16 asciilifeform late evening, listening to elderly ukrs derp on shortwave re horror of their neet chillunz derping on ipnojes; where to read re antennae design; putin.
asciilifeform recently set up a (rx-only , for nao ) shortwave thing
asciilifeform: and if comes the hour that we need 500 clean boxes, for whatever, e.g. unattended shortwave relays, there they are.
BingoBoingo: having grandchildren to derp about on shortwave takes time.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'legal' shortwave is ~useless , iirc we had the thread.
asciilifeform late evening, listening to elderly ukrs derp on shortwave re horror of their neet chillunz derping on ipnojes; where to read re antennae design; putin. ☟︎
asciilifeform: incidentally asciilifeform was going through notebooks and found a theoretical nugget that iirc hasn't been posted. 1w of shortwave, using the error code discussed in prev thread, can propagate trans-continentally ( i.e. easily new york to montevideo ) . and can easily come out of unattended ( solar, thermal-charged ) box , at ~day intervals, hanging from tree in woods, illicitly glued into wall at tower construction site, etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has quit (Read error << where's that shortwave!111
asciilifeform begins to suspect that mircea_popescu is a good candidate for that shortwave thing
l0de: they have the ability to greatly degrade all shortwave communications
l0de: at the point where shortwave communications pose an existential threat to usg
l0de: If shortwave was the problem, the USG could render the entire thing unusable with relatively trivial effort
l0de: additionally shortwave is jammable, unreliable, and lossy
l0de: every single thing happening on shortwave is of interest to them
l0de: shortwave is problematic for a lot of reasons
mircea_popescu: as in, http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22short%22+%22wave%22
mircea_popescu: as far as mostly 1 is concerned, there's significant interest in shortwave, which is why it's a recurrent thread in the logs.
l0de: often we're hitting shortwave stuff
mircea_popescu: Techman there's a lot of interest in shortwave here, as per say http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22shortwave%22 ; i suspect we have a lot to talk about. but can be tomorrow or whatever, there's no rush.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 18:08 asciilifeform: i'll admit ftr that this item was one of the underlying seekrit crackpotteries behind asciilifeform's interest in shortwave
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 01:18 phf: "The l0de radio hour is a long-running live call-in show that irregularly broadcasts over the internet, and to pirate shortwave and FM stations. It is hosted by Lode Ray Dio, a gypsy hustler with a long history of fraud, grifting, and treason. The show is notable for its frequent cancellations, obscene and bizarre content, and a high rate of listener suicide."
asciilifeform: i'll admit ftr that this item was one of the underlying seekrit crackpotteries behind asciilifeform's interest in shortwave ☟︎
phf: "The l0de radio hour is a long-running live call-in show that irregularly broadcasts over the internet, and to pirate shortwave and FM stations. It is hosted by Lode Ray Dio, a gypsy hustler with a long history of fraud, grifting, and treason. The show is notable for its frequent cancellations, obscene and bizarre content, and a high rate of listener suicide." ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( if it's shortwave -- i'll say right nao, it won't work, and the chinese 'up-converter' box -- defo wontwork )
asciilifeform: shortwave. from festung mircea_popescustein's 500kW transmitter.
mircea_popescu: "oh but mp, other people do it via shortwave radio" "good for them."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: likewise i can see logbot being used without ircbot -- with, say, shortwavebot
asciilifeform: the sad thing is that ( at least until we get, e.g., the shortwave net, going ) there are some boxes of fixed size, that in practice gotta be sat down into if at all possible
asciilifeform: ( or at any rate refuted, and can then link to refutation when asciilifeform is long dead and some other d00d asks 'hey wai not shortwave relays' etc )
asciilifeform: incidentally re : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735809 << e.g. pyongyang, or teheran, or any other 'fortress' could easily make btc by transmitting arbitrary bits on shortwave, for coin ☝︎
ben_vulpes: shortwave!
asciilifeform: try it with ordinary shortwave. dun pick up ~0.
asciilifeform: ( and that few watt, spread over entire 30MHz of shortwave )
a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 17:57 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> shinohai: shortwave imho far moar realistic, practical, cheap-and-angry. << Undersea cables for most work, run them between cool kids (China/Chile, etc), keep shortwave because pantsuit process of "What's they point they fall back to shortwave"
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> shinohai: shortwave imho far moar realistic, practical, cheap-and-angry. << Undersea cables for most work, run them between cool kids (China/Chile, etc), keep shortwave because pantsuit process of "What's they point they fall back to shortwave" ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-09-22 14:31 asciilifeform: 1) every old lappy comes with a high-quality DAC fit for shortwave! the vga card.
asciilifeform: shinohai: shortwave imho far moar realistic, practical, cheap-and-angry.
asciilifeform: ( why are there not digital shortwave crackpot stations
asciilifeform: by all rights they oughta be using shortwave, not www
asciilifeform: i think it assumed 'shortwave'
asciilifeform: relatedly, a shortwave ( or even ultralong wave! ) transmitter of genuine ( i.e. best-known-pov ) blox, would be a fine thing
mircea_popescu is somewhat nonplussed phf sits around "hackerspace" derping with baloons instead of making the shortwave-nat-over-other-peoples-cars thing fore instance.
asciilifeform at one point considered 'distributed shortwave' via 'accidentally bad cable' vga cards
mircea_popescu: shortwave, cuntwave, the works.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688405 << shortwave!!1! ☝︎
sina: "To craft a valid packet, a sender must collect a single auth string from the receiving node's lighthouse (via whatever means, can be a shortwave tuner), craft auth with it as described by Mircea Popescu earlier, encipher to receiver's RSA pubkey, and send." ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i've heard you before and i hear you now. i just don't have much hope for extant internet. unreliable-low-bandwidth shortwave relay net almost seems like a longer term strategy here, no?
phf: it's hard to push anything interesting over shortwave though, unless you're prepared to do pirate broadcasting, because of crypto. can't broadcast encrypted stuff
phf: ben_vulpes: that's easy, someone always adds a shortwave bridge.
ben_vulpes: wake me up when they work over shortwave
ben_vulpes: throw the nic out, we're going to shortwave anyways
mircea_popescu waves. i shall write this short i woke up with and read all this!
ben_vulpes: "gossipd? what dat. have you ever heard of i2p? what's an ethernet frame? shortwave?"
asciilifeform: btw stormfront on shortwave was pretty great.
asciilifeform: shinohai: lol, shortwave?!
asciilifeform: re: earlier: caveat is that a man being correctly microwaved will, in all likelihood, present the symptoms of 'rather disturbed' in short order
asciilifeform: (btw i'd run ~that~ instead of shortwave, if i were a mad king)
a111: Logged on 2016-09-22 17:49 scriba: Logged on 2016-09-22: [14:31:38] <asciilifeform> 1) every old lappy comes with a high-quality DAC fit for shortwave! the vga card.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-22: [14:31:38] <asciilifeform> 1) every old lappy comes with a high-quality DAC fit for shortwave! the vga card. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 1) every old lappy comes with a high-quality DAC fit for shortwave! the vga card. ☟︎
asciilifeform actually listens to shortwave, it is a very mixed bag
a111: Logged on 2016-09-22 12:33 Framedragger: tty wifi dongles, but rather long distance shortwaves, etc.)
Framedragger: yeah i wouldn't transmit encrypted shortwaves from usa, that indeed sounds like doom
asciilifeform: a megawatt shortwave station is a castle.
Framedragger: shortwaves bounce around the ionosphere and all that
Framedragger: tty wifi dongles, but rather long distance shortwaves, etc.) ☟︎
asciilifeform: as a receiver it's pretty good (but no shortwave without a freq. down-converter, iirc)
asciilifeform: which is a quite useful thing, both for 'i can hear my keyboard across the street, wtf', other experiments, but also for picking up eventually mircea_popescu's shortwave.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu-signed vpatch can be made known over whatever medium. shortwave, if he likes.
asciilifeform: why not also build it into not only gossipd but a shortwave antenna, a kalash, a cement mixer, stradivari, and van gogh...
asciilifeform: (this also makes for a clean transition to comms over shortwave, hijacked tv satellites, or whatever other twist the future holds where packets come with NO return address)
asciilifeform: maybe it comes from shortwave picked up in soundcard hiss.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 16:55 asciilifeform: (and yes you can do blockchain over shortwave. after learning this algo, and not before)
asciilifeform: (and yes you can do blockchain over shortwave. after learning this algo, and not before) ☟︎
ben_vulpes: what is really at issue here is one's connectivity to the bitcoin network. so yes, power. also, shortwave.
ben_vulpes: but clearly these are all points that only dirigible captains may discuss over hawala shortwave.
ben_vulpes: shortwave for the blockchain, solar panels for time-arbitraged electricity, hole of car batteries for storage