BingoBoingo: I'm working a lot in the flat, but I've been getting hit with the cabin fever pretty hard since leaving the hostel. I've been using the cowork desk to get my dose of social orcnoise.
mod6: Attn Pizarro Customers: The auction was settled at $8200.00, and will be used as the price point for August invoices.
☟︎ mod6: !!Qcalc ((0.42967914/12)+0.022)
mod6: !+Qcalc ((0.42967914/12)+0.022)
mod6: !~Qcalc ((0.42967914/12)+0.022)
mod6: !Qcalc ((0.42967914/12)+0.022)
mod6: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.057806595 August 2018 invoice for UY3
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll give some cafes a try, but a side effect of the Mate crack pipes is that there aren't many cafes, and... Looking for a combination cafe+package reception kinda reinvents the cowork thing again.
mod6: !Qcalc (75+75+75)/8200
mod6: BingoBoingo: if you want to renew your rockchip for 1 quarter, this will be the price ^
BingoBoingo: Roughly how far out is a Cuntoo image for Rockchip?
☟︎ mod6: !!invoice jurov 0.01728048 August Invoice for The Bitcoin Foundation's colo service. #foundation #pizarro
mod6: !Qcalc (141.70/8200)+0.003
mod6: !!invoice trinque 0.02028048 August Invoice for colocation service and shared shell at pizarro
trinque: mod6: just to be clear, so far ben_vulpes has billed in arrears. we're moving to billing in advance?
trinque: I don't have a problem with that, but like things to be defined
trinque: lemme pull a list of invoice dates for ya
mod6: ben_vulpes said at the end of last month that I should send the august ones as soon as I have the price point. which is also what I committed to doing when we had this last go-around a week ago.
mod6: I'm just trying to stick to what I said I would do so you'd be happy.
ben_vulpes: trinque has it, mod6 is billing in advance now.
mod6: Ok, that contradicts what you asked me to do, and what we said we'd do.
ben_vulpes: mod6: no, what you have just done is bill for august service at the beginning of august.
trinque isn't pissed, just asking the question, as I didn't see an announcement
mod6: So should I cancel those invoices or what is the plan here?
ben_vulpes: mod6: everything is kosher, trinque wants clarity on arrears vs advance. what you are doing is billing in advance.
trinque: I've (more or less!) been paying at the end of the month for the prior month. I'm happy to begin paying for the month ahead, if y'all want that, but we oughta say what the policy is for the logs
mod6: i dont' really know what arreass is
ben_vulpes: arrears are for services rendered already.
mod6: clearly i'm not the man for this, just trying to keep things moving.
ben_vulpes: mod6: you're doing a great job, don't hang yourself over a term of art.
mod6: and keeping clients happy, which im having a hard time doing.
ben_vulpes: mod6: note he did not say that he was pissed, quite the contrary.
trinque: I'm just asking educational questions, is all
ben_vulpes: billing as soon as the price signal is set avoids further waffling over spread between when price signal is set and when bills go out. necessarily entails a move to billing in advance.
mod6: The invoices that I just made cover the service through the month of August. Invoices received need to be paid by the last day of August.
trinque: cool deal, that's exactly what I wanted in the logs
mod6: !!v 646B0F8356894CF24B00725362F3F5ECA3FBE279832EDF28A16348E6DBBB9889
deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.057806595 << August 2018 invoice for UY3
mod6: !!v 0B55B685916F50B97FEAAE35C8A6A4591CE1B56F1D883225133D8F6C85B8D961
deedbot: Invoiced jurov 0.01728048 << August Invoice for The Bitcoin Foundation's colo service. #foundation #pizarro
mod6: !!v D45113700F92244BD144669414FC1FD44A7D5819AE34FB08A6B69235A8540DD0
deedbot: Invoiced trinque 0.02028048 << August Invoice for colocation service and shared shell at pizarro
mod6: Alright, last one that remains is BingoBoingo's should he decide to renew for a quarter. Of which, there is a price quote above.
mod6: ^ price for 1 month too, should BingoBoingo decide on month-to-month.
mod6: Let me know what works!
a111: Logged on 2018-08-04 00:27 BingoBoingo: Roughly how far out is a Cuntoo image for Rockchip?
trinque: !!v 3E996764340AB3F151BAC8371DD6F8AE123527064DE756DE8FFE0E35CA343B13
deedbot: trinque paid mod6 invoice 3
mod6: Hey, nice ben_vulpes! Thanks for putting that together, I'll comb through it tomorrow and check numbers.
mircea_popescu: mod6 how did it settle at 8200 if you ended up paying 1.1 for it or w/e
mod6: did I do that wrong?
mod6: was thinking i had to "buy 8200 fiats" for 1.1, and that was the rate.
mod6: how do i figure out the rate?
mod6: i will cancel the outstanding invoices, and send back trinque's money. and re-invoice everyone at the correct rate.
mircea_popescu: if you buy 1.1 drinks for 9 dollars the drink rate is 9/1.1 not 9 yes ?
mircea_popescu: if youi buy a tank of gas for 50 bux gas isn't now 50bux a GALON, it's 50 bux a tank.
mod6: seems to make sense, anyway.
mircea_popescu: AUCTION # 338 has ENDED: 8.2k wFF q0 SOLD to mod6 for 1.1bn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu
mod6: i think there was a lot of mental gymnastics I had to do.
mod6: alright, will re-do.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-04 00:11 mod6: Attn Pizarro Customers: The auction was settled at $8200.00, and will be used as the price point for August invoices.
mod6: !!cancel-invoice mircea_popescu 3
mod6: !!cancel-invoice jurov 3
mod6: !!pay trinque 0.02028048
mod6: !!v F9B6E58EC6C6D82F22D1D81EAC8CC603B30A941E6FFA6A12A4D48845F120E27E
deedbot: mod6 canceled mircea_popescu invoice 3
mod6: !!v 89A1ED6A3F48C1CAEE02EE4F65A0BC3FD09F381B3D030C60CD118662FCF391B8
deedbot: mod6 canceled jurov invoice 3
mod6: !!v 49444AD95AE10A40C8C274D2730499414909FC8998FDDAB306E6B04343BE58AE
deedbot: mod6 paid trinque 0.02028048
mod6: shit, I didn't even need to cancel the one for S.MG.
mod6: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.057806595 August 2018 invoice for UY3
mod6: !!Qcalc (75+75+75)/7454.54
mod6: !Qcalc (75+75+75)/7454.54
mod6: BingoBoingo: Quarterly ^
mod6: BingoBoingo: Monthly ^ for rockchip
mod6: !Qcalc 141.70/7454.54
mod6: !!invoice jurov August 0.01900855 August Invoice for The Bitcoin Foundation's colo service. #foundation #pizarro
mod6: !!invoice jurov 0.01900855 August Invoice for The Bitcoin Foundation's colo service. #foundation #pizarro
mod6: !Qcalc (141.70/7454.54)+0.003
☟︎ mod6: !!invoice trinque 0.02200855 August Invoice for colocation service and shared shell at pizarro
mod6: !!v 219DA25EE262A213C10A08827D05B276CD994D309FF1DC98178FB1EA80B8EC0C
deedbot: Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.057806595 << August 2018 invoice for UY3
mod6: !!v FA8D85ADF1942C3ECF43C9FC1D7272AA88A0E50160C8451BC865F1BD46A8BE01
deedbot: Invoiced jurov 0.01900855 << August Invoice for The Bitcoin Foundation's colo service. #foundation #pizarro
mod6: !!v 686B8C99989197732D824C678EB37FEFE65F4D2B01A2259F85E38DE86FFD27EE
deedbot: Invoiced trinque 0.02200855 << August Invoice for colocation service and shared shell at pizarro
mod6: Alright, now everything should be straight.
mod6: All: The price point for August is now set at $7454.54.
mircea_popescu: "christel on 2018-07-27 Many of you will have noticed that over the last few days there has been an extensive spambot wave on freenode, and on other networks." after which one loses interest in reading further, seeing how only a moron would use that lede.
mircea_popescu: kinda made the point to me, that probably we're the only ones to even notice ; the cattle live in their barn on their cattle diet, shit's unremarkable to them.
mircea_popescu: this shit though, where "feelings" became acceptable topics of conversation in public, has gotta fucking cease.
mircea_popescu: harem girls have harem conversations IN THE FUCKING HAREM. ima talk to the master of the house, not to the chatterchorus.
mircea_popescu: my take is more in the vein of "visual thinkers attempting to rehash the 'hilary pedophilia scandal' for substance and of course plastering '-gate' and 'journalists' labels is how markov chains work".
a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 18:05 mircea_popescu: aand in other items of entomological interest, the wikipedia take on politicized pseudo-literary criticism is something else. aphra behn is lionized, because they're ever-so-desperate to discover, invent or if need be entirely hallucinate "remarkable" cuntbearers of the shakespeare period that some random jailbird is A HEROINE OF FEMINISM!!!
mircea_popescu: (fellow also went to uruguay, is the tenuous point of apropos)
mircea_popescu: in case you're wondering how the argentina-uruguay-etc ended up the shitholes that they are, that's exactly it : gave their money away to anarcho-humanitary-pacifisto-veganist & feminists, because "sons of europe".
mircea_popescu: they didn't try though. the important part was in the jury-rigging.
mircea_popescu: like one of those mcguyverists that's actually more committed to the duct taping process than to the end product.\
mircea_popescu: i can scarcely imagine a lulzier scene than argentina-borne monkeys inside german old diesel scrapmetal pile.
mircea_popescu: dude, just come out and fucking say it! "he was nobody on a stick, but we're jews so..."
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 01:18 phf: "The l0de radio hour is a long-running live call-in show that irregularly broadcasts over the internet, and to pirate shortwave and FM stations. It is hosted by Lode Ray Dio, a gypsy hustler with a long history of fraud, grifting, and treason. The show is notable for its frequent cancellations, obscene and bizarre content, and a high rate of listener suicide."
lobbesbot: Logged on 2018-08-04 16:18:15: <amar> /!\ ATTN: This channel has moved to irc.efnet.org #LRH /!\
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 16:44 mircea_popescu: "Like a bad ass she is, she proved to be wise beyond her years by standing head and shoulders (Or is it ass-tall) with the boys." doesn't even INTEND irony, you realise.
mircea_popescu: this being the essence of provincialism, though, "have you heard about that guy ?" "oh, yeah, he's my wife's cousin"
a111: Logged on 2018-05-04 17:15 zx2c4: mircea_popescu: oh. so. "the world doesnt care about the cool hackers on the internet, but only the assholes with prestigious positions." this has been a widely known complaint for a long time
mircea_popescu: THAT is the fucking problem, in quite those terms. that i somehow care about the morons. cuz i must, cuz i'm their mother or some dumb shit. but aaanyways.
mircea_popescu: the pretense that they're people will have to be abandoned sooner or later. like all idle pretense, it is unsustainable on the long term.
mircea_popescu: "the man who marries a horse is an excentric man, not a man with a remarkable wife"
mircea_popescu: subhumans have no business here ; let them go to whatever castles the respective lords feel like making the allowance.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fromphuctors can go to what do you call yours, #loperos ?
mircea_popescu: in time, if actually cool enough, can even end up invited here.
mircea_popescu: there's also #eulora an' #pizarro and iirc mod6 had one and a whole bunch. time to put them to work
mircea_popescu stresses in any case that while precipitated by events, it's nevertheless where this was headed anyway.
mircea_popescu: and for good reason, if one's to weigh the input of rando noobies for the past whatever arbitrary interval, weeks, months, whatever patience may endure, he'll find OODLETONS of self-important douchebaggery, perhaps most eminently exemplified by the
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-12#1824361 scammer ; and ~zilch actual contributing to go with it.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-06-12 21:44 mircea_popescu: !!pay cnomad 0.1
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated cnomad 1 at 2018/06/12 21:46:46 << dood either ran off with my boards or else produced an image of some sort ; we don't know the future yet
mircea_popescu: anyway ; none of this is intended to discourage anyone from inviting people over. but exactly as detailed in ye things have changed article, the "general population" of herbivores has lost the franchise of coming here of own power. it'll be invite only.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-21 21:18 trinque: in compounding ironies, I stood up my own ircd_ratbox earlier out of curiosity
lobbes: The faint whisper of 'gossipd' can be heard reverberating off the halls of the forum. You are hungry. Exits: [North] [Down]
a111: Logged on 2018-05-01 17:07 asciilifeform: quasi-relatedly, asciilifeform found himself wondering, why we're still on fleanode... between pizarro, mircea_popescu's racked boxes ( idk where, but presumably good ones ? ) , asciilifeform's own fiber, trinque , etc. could have a very solid irc net, potentially
phf: asciilifeform: presumably it is still a question of strategic superiority. there's no point on wasting resources on things of little consequence. #b-a => #trilema transition happened in a couple of days, with most original infra available within a week. nothing will prevent same when fleanode is defunct, meanwhile no reason to waste any cycles on it. also act from cause
phf: well, right, but either or. no need to erect a leprotoilet right now if at all avoidable in the future.
mircea_popescu: moreover phf deeply has it ; the extant mp-wp infrastructure is wartime sufficient anyways,
phf: asciilifeform: you seem to be presenting an internally conflicting argument
mircea_popescu: and while at it, the essential part of "#b-a => #trilema transition happened" isn't even so much the (very extremely never-seen-before) narrow time wondows ; but the fact that ~it very much was~ on own fucking schedule. i don't recall having to hassle anyone about anything. it was a coupla days cuz it took me a coupla days, and it was a week because it took trinque, phf & gang a week.
mircea_popescu: same administrative/front end. what do you care whose ircd you run ?
phf: asciilifeform: well, we don't have a gossipd, so our only move option is to take steps towards gossipd or leprotoilet. "i personally would prefer exodus from fleanode to happen on our schedule" exists at odds with both. it seems to ask for "faster gossipd" or "leprotoilet" now, hence at odds.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-04 22:05 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc i proposed at one time an intermediate item on the way to proper gossipd ( 'serpent'-ciphered tunneler to connect coupla ircd instances to each other, and ditto for users ( get otp cookie a la deedbot, get a key that's good for 1 tcp connect ) but so far instead followed mircea_popescu's advice re not wasting sweat on such a thing, but pushing with ffa so as to get with what to gossipd.
mircea_popescu: gotta permit fate to speak. for all you know we mgiht discover we didn't even like irc.
mircea_popescu: as unlikely as it seems ; and it does seem. waves are the result of earth's existence, and the only way to conquer resistance of the medium is to make it work for you.
mircea_popescu: in any case, gotta let things like fiction characters play out their own life story.
mircea_popescu: anyway, tbh i'm mostly encouraging the utter collapse of freenode's "security" model. it should be obvious that lode/ae dorks could just as well REGISTER the spambots. it's a fully automated process, what's the problem, emails ? gimme a break.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: whole thing adds exactly nothing practically speaking.
mircea_popescu: but i want to fully realise the republican advantage over the pantsuit morons. this situation where #trilema is safe "and so are their chans" is overt socialism redistributing goods from us to the moronherd.
mod6: BingoBoingo: any news on the drive shipment?
BingoBoingo: mod6: They are still waiting to get cleared