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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform disk afaik fine ; probably bdb itself shat it at some prior point, tho atm dunno a mechanism.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's the interesting imho part. ftr i have yet to witness a corrupted-but-openable bdb on machine other than where ssd was found to have rotted.
asciilifeform: ( there -- found this twice, to date. )
mircea_popescu: instrumentation to hunt for this is by now in the vein of "debug bdb". which im not particularly inclined to do, marked for complete removal anyway.
asciilifeform: i'd look at the realloc counter on the disk, betcha it's started to turn.
asciilifeform concurs that there's 0 point in debug of bdb, it's medicine for a corpse
mircea_popescu: afaik ssd realloc counter starts turning ~the day they're deployed.
asciilifeform: nah
asciilifeform: not unless yer using rubbish ssd, at any rate
mircea_popescu: in principle, for as long as that's not run out, the disk won't lose sectors. but then again, a definitive answer to this turns into debug-ssd-fw+kernel, which...
asciilifeform: (tho, will add, the retarded design of bdb, gives early death on ssd. in sane indexer there is never any reason to touch any single block moar than once )
asciilifeform: in asciilifeform's o(1) tx indexer ( will be welded to an experimental bdb once i get the mmap thing resolved ) there's a 2-level storage -- a 'write-once' o(1) index for blox of age N ( N can be 100-500 in practice ), and a much smaller rewritable one kept strictly in ram ( for 'recent' blox, where the longest chain is potentially movable ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: *experimental trb, err
asciilifeform: this gives the 'write block on disk only 1nce' behaviour.
asciilifeform: the algo for this, i described coupla yrs ago here.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-20#1888589 << specialist machine market really died in the 90s, and was buried slowly hence. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-20 19:12 bvt: are such machines even build these days? i.e. for dsp, or other use-cases?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's alive, in a sense (various image processing junk) but not sumthing you'd want anyffin to do with i suspect
asciilifeform: (e.g. the recent fad for 'face recognizer' even revived 1980s item, neural network processor. i haven't personally tried'em for anyffin , of yet )
mircea_popescu: even the http://trilema.com/2016/give-computers-the-vote-theyre-cheaper-than-women-even/ hollywood production moved to x86.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform only "revived" as a money sucker, afaik deployments still on off the shelf micro
asciilifeform: nah see, they want face reader in pnoje, toilet, ballpoint pen, etc. where (despite mighty effort) x86 dun go.
mircea_popescu: "want". so far that thing only keeps "researchers" mortgages paid.
asciilifeform: ( and again will note, i haven't tried the various irons, may well be snake oils. )
mircea_popescu: w/e, perhaps i do not see teh future.
mircea_popescu: ~same utility as quantum computers, as far as i know.
asciilifeform: intel for instance sells 1 , for about 20bux in qty. what is actually on the die , i have nfi, and it only worx with their oddball closed compiler thing.
asciilifeform: supposedly fits trainable nn, coupla 10k units worth.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-20#1888626 << you can, because it's so highly structured. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-20 19:47 bvt: you can't verify output of 'write 4096 adds' by hand, though
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and "russia" sells "own processor". "only worx" etc.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-20#1888637 << this is very precisely on point, hence why http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-20#1888551 is such win and so on. ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-20 19:59 asciilifeform: a fast rsatron is important mainly in light of fast rejection of crapola sent by enemy, rather than for payload per se.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-20 17:20 mircea_popescu: apparently 200 reqs ~per 100ms~ (that's how long it takes to complete one) is not enough to bring it down.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: y'know, neural net, the thing that classifies pig as 'porn' etc. i'm even willing to believe that the chip worx to spec. not magic by any means, 1970s tech sitting on modern ic
mircea_popescu: i know, i know.
mircea_popescu: was all the rage when i was in school. alongside the period "GREAT DISCOVERY" of "3d glasses".
asciilifeform: i simply can't bring myself to buy any to test, i dun have any pigs that need autoclassifying
asciilifeform: ( they offer a 50 $ dev kit, compleete with cd fulla winblowz shitware )
mircea_popescu: (frosi, teh magazine of teh ddr's own pionierorganisation iirc, included a pair in one of the editions i got. i even played with them.
mircea_popescu: spoiler : they sucked.)
asciilifeform: re nn in general -- i vaguely suspect that a quality rng might actually cure the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687624 problem. but again i dun have any pigs, so haven't had occasion to try. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 19:52 asciilifeform: because unlearns faster than learns.
mircea_popescu: in fact, that publication enduringly shook my confidence in german intelligence. included ALL SORTS of utterly retarded shit -- say a "boat" consisting of a piece of paper with a cut inside, you pour oil there and it "propels" it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, decent quality konsoomer '3d visor' appeared , i got one as a gift not long ago. but i dun do chemical models any moar, and so no constructive use for it any moar
mircea_popescu: at least the french socialists entirely dedicated themselves to "aesthetics" ie masturbation, rather than "science" and "engineering"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at the same time, we had very good quality 3d chemistry modeller. it consisted of a bunch of sacks, with colored spheres with holes correctly planarly inclined, and plastic sticks.
asciilifeform as a boy built the classic toy boat from tin can and soldered ballpoint pen tune (the iron kind), add a camp stove pellet and a++ 'pulse jet'
mircea_popescu: afaik to this day unbeatable modeller.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these are great, but when yer doing a protein gets expensive and bit unwieldy ( picture room-sized stick model )
mircea_popescu: turns out there's NOT THAT MANY possible atomic states.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, see, what you call "unwieldy" is the very quality of the item in question. that is it's true value.
mircea_popescu: to protest its carnality is as protesting cunt's sliminess. it's "unwieldy" specifically because it works well.
asciilifeform: mno. when you have 10,000 sticks, thing sags under gravity, in very 'unphysical' way re the item being modelled.
asciilifeform: there's a practical limit to anyffin.
mircea_popescu: your head will fall out through your arsehole if you attempt to meaningfully interact with something as large as to make that thing collapse into degenerate matter through a "3d visor" color interferer thingee.
mircea_popescu: hm. did that sentence pass parser ?
asciilifeform: it did
asciilifeform: i used to do this for a living, tho. ( and no it aint a great biz to be in, the models just barely work )
asciilifeform: imho it's a wide green field for hypothetical resurrection of ~analogue comp~
asciilifeform: von neumann comp spectacularly retarded for the app
asciilifeform: ( consider, grunting through each atom, serially )
asciilifeform: i had a 30k$ sgi 3d viewer thing, worked ok ( 1 part 50kg crt, other part went on yer head. ) point is that nao you can get ~same thing for 100. not that there's much in the way of people who are still doing any of this afaik. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i tell you honestly, if i ran a lab where such a compound was seriously important, i'd spend the 100k or w/e it is to have a model welded out of steel balls and rods, and place it in the lab gym.
mircea_popescu: let all the bright minds monkey swing from the fucking thing until they fall over.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: watson & co tried this.
asciilifeform: problem is that you want flex in the bonds ( to model strain, van der waals, etc ) but you dun want it to sag.
asciilifeform: ( on top of this, the actual meat being modelled is not a rigid object, it has substantially variant geometry depending on temperature and properties of medium, e.g. ph )
asciilifeform: sorta what keeps the old-fashioned crystallography people in biz.
asciilifeform: ( btw does mircea_popescu have a theory re why people become crystallographers ? it's almost 100% young chix, and they -- even with modern shielding and safety derpisms -- never live particularly long. multi-MeV xray cannon in yer face... )
asciilifeform: on a few occasions i had to go to where it was done. power supply cable as thick as my thigh.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: possibly they tried the dating market.
asciilifeform: lol
BingoBoingo: Likely
asciilifeform: there were even some folx doing protein ~neutronography~. and aaalso chix...
asciilifeform: i haven't seen with own eyes tho ( and would rather not ) the biznis-end of that.
mircea_popescu: i don't get why they can't simply use a mirror / scintillator / something.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they do.
asciilifeform: problem is the 'xray hygiene' thing, outlined by mircea_popescu in earlier thread
mircea_popescu: myeah...
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-11#1849389 << oblig slotin oldthread. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-09-11 01:22 asciilifeform: incidentally much noise was made re the elaborate calculations of early nukes, but good chunk of the design params ~also~ only were accessible empirically. hence the slotin incident.
mircea_popescu: while the former is actually true, the latter doesn't follow, it's not like he had to use the beryl for a soup bowl.
asciilifeform: well arrhenius or who it was, didn't ~have~ to taste his reaction products either
asciilifeform: but some folx, when considering 'hmm, taste, or go home' will taste.
mircea_popescu: you telling me slotin was a sort of curie jr, had "no idea what could occur" ?
asciilifeform: nah
asciilifeform: extreme case imho. but illustrative of principle.
mircea_popescu: well then. monkey was monkying about, gimme a break.
mircea_popescu: 0 respect for any kind of safety.
asciilifeform: eh life was cheap, electricians routinely measured voltage with wet finger etc.
asciilifeform: even as late as '90s lab folx had to be beaten with a stick to get'em to stop mouth-pipetting, etc
BingoBoingo: Putting on a lab coat doesn't make a monkey hygenic
asciilifeform: ( i suspect that current-day 'millenial' derps would shit their pants if they saw folx actually at work and the things that are done even nao )
mircea_popescu: yeah... you know i used to do the old thumb-stopper thing... until i noticed i got spots.
mircea_popescu: BUT I WAS THRITEEN
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was cured of this by chem instructor, who showed palm where glass pipe went clean through it when he was a lad
asciilifeform: little round scar on ea. side
mircea_popescu: heh.
asciilifeform: i dun consider slotin et al to be shining examples to follow, but will also point out , that errybody dies eventually, and personally would rather chance to eat 100kV than to die of boredom sitting in a chair kanzure-style.
asciilifeform was thinking of this just this morning, while varnishing the 50kv cabling on the xray box
mircea_popescu: by the time your evening's entertainment is screwdriver-juggling neutron reflectors, you've got some pretty serious pretentious issues going. i mean aestheticism is one thing, but by the time that's all that's left...
asciilifeform: as i understand, usg dept. of wunderwaffen hasn't given'em robo-cranes yet, at that pt
mircea_popescu: there's space in the middle.
asciilifeform: surely.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on the other side, "About me I love the X Files and Criminal Minds. I'm studying Cosmetology right now but next semester I am transferring to Psychology. "
asciilifeform: now see ~some~ people, odin himself made'em to prop up neutron reflector with dainty little fingers.
asciilifeform: they are simply misplaced atm.
mircea_popescu: sadly, their way to their butugychag is blocked by a bunch of shriveled old prunes decked in star trek paraphenalia.
asciilifeform: tragic waste.
asciilifeform: sadly.
mircea_popescu: i suppose you might enjoy the whole thing. http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/hYrat/?raw=true
asciilifeform: 'However I’m very into Financial Domination and paying me is the only way' << lol!!
mircea_popescu: somebody asked her, see.
asciilifeform: i can't resist to ask, is this one sui generis or is 'financial domination' actual button on the fatlife dashboard thing nao.
asciilifeform: re 'somebody asked', i suspect that the correct physical model is that old toy ( do they still make'em ? ) with plastic phonograph roll inside, where you pull string and it 'speaks'
asciilifeform: you pulled, see, its string.
asciilifeform: so it 'spoke'.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's an actual thing in the sense "black world order" is a thing
asciilifeform: i gotta take off hat to mircea_popescu's strong stomach, i can't picture fucking these things even with ball gag. would almost rather juggle neutron reflectors.
mircea_popescu: sui generis. there's a whorde of these cosmetologists with aspirations, populating what's left of the human side of usg's "ugc" lines, filling up the "journalist" pipelines, camwhoring etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this particular one entirely unfuckable, tiny tits an' a belly. but in general, idiots have ~no chance of making it through anyway, so can't say as i have.
BingoBoingo: "I like being treated like a princess and fucked like a slut." << The anglophone girl problem. They think they want to hold the power, but they know they want the power imposed on them when it counts.
mircea_popescu: i do recall in youth was a lot less selective/priviledged, whichever way you look at it ; but somehow inexplicably stupidity not nearly as organised or militant in same youth. i mean, fuck, girls back then were ASHAMED to sit with the mainstream, jesus fuck.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm not even convinced there's an 'i' in that there crankcase that is capable of actually 'wanting' sumthing.
mircea_popescu: so i guess i switched historical priviledge for social priviledge as i aged.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, two decades of child abuse organized for her by Disney
mircea_popescu: can't say that there's what to dispute this view with, that they've failed to meaningfully individuate.
asciilifeform: aha. and there aint a cure, any moar than for hydrocephalia. the ideal life outcome for these, is 'institutional' , the kind with shock collar, detonguing, short leash, i suspect.
mircea_popescu: well, if hillary had her way they'll all be "social "workers" coming up with rules an' regulations for each other.
mircea_popescu: as it is... i dunno, i suspect they'll starve, orange man doesn't seem inclined to continue the slop.
mircea_popescu: but for instance i have standing orders for 0 tolerance and active harassment / belittling and sabotage of them by my girls, whenever encountered (which mostly is receptionists, but hey)
BingoBoingo: If UruguArgenZuela is illustrative they'll fad their way into avoiding starvation with "coliving" and food "recollection"
mircea_popescu: rapidly becoming the social pariah, this cosmetologist princess-psychologist.
asciilifeform: i had nfi the species is found as far south as mircea_popescustan
mircea_popescu: principally because they're so easy to filter them out.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform are you kidding me ? the species is found anywhere samsung put "smart"phones on layaway.
mircea_popescu: like plague follows rats, these follow touchscreens
asciilifeform: hm i thought they could only grow where a similarly-porcine mother lives as 'office plankton' and prevents contact w/ reality
mircea_popescu: the "billions" that schmuck was talking about.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: at last 1/3 of the pichis here have pnoHes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, generally parents content to "not understand" offspring and "feed, anyway"
mircea_popescu: this is pretty fucking amusing to me, too. "oh, i don't understand the kids... and this is my problem". bitch... if i don't understand them i don't feed them, this "you don't understand me" is just about "tomorrow, i die", naught else. let them fucking work ass off to be understood, wtf, you want me to do it ?!
mircea_popescu: vaguely reminescent of occasional fetard going "i don't know you" / occasional moron going "this trilema article is too long and complicated for my understander".
mircea_popescu: "what the fuck do you expect ME to do about that ?!"
mircea_popescu: the expectation that a breakdown in communication is a stable state better come with a baked-in expectation of 0 financial flows, wtf.
feedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/21/pizarro-isp-update-january-21-2019/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro ISP Update January 21, 2019
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: battery consistently in mid-60s ( all-time high 68 ), cpu - 50s
mircea_popescu: could a very shitty battery meltdown and fuck the rk then ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the rk case is about 1.5 metre away
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma include a simple machine-readable ambient thermometer/hygrometer in the cargo, for good measure
mircea_popescu: oh, so this is the shared ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the temps/voltages thrd is re 'uy1' , the collective www box yea
mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: it's a 1u opteron box with 32 cpu
asciilifeform: ( of same type as dulap-iii and the s.mg machines )
asciilifeform: runs off 2 physically separate 220v ps.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: btw see if you can hunt down a mains quality recorder that doesn't cost own weight in gold, so far my dig has disappointed
asciilifeform: ( hunt on net, that is, not in BingoBoingostani junkyard , tho i'll be pleasantly surprised if it were to turn up ~there~ )
asciilifeform will bbl : meatspace subsystems
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll add it to the ask list when I make the rounds to the shops
BingoBoingo: In addition to net searching
mircea_popescu: !!up fromdeedbot
deedbot: fromdeedbot voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in historical problems, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-30#816689 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-08-30 23:24 mircea_popescu: i have a glass table and an optic mouse.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interestingly, recent ones, with ir laser, actually work on glass..
mircea_popescu: i thought lasers didn't exist!
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: anyway, i was looking for the story of the mouse chewing at the jar lid hole with his tiny teeth
mircea_popescu: but can't fucking find it anymore.
mircea_popescu: fat people can't find their feet ; but i'm so overweight i can't find my fucking stories.
asciilifeform: ( exercise for reader : what is won by using laser diode in mice, vs ordinary led ? )
asciilifeform: !#s mouse jar
a111: 13 results for "mouse jar", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=mouse%20jar
mircea_popescu: not there sadly.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-07#821631 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-09-07 17:02 mircea_popescu: something like that. so one night while in here, i see movement in the corner of my eye
mircea_popescu: aaaa! TY!
mircea_popescu: that's the fuck it was, 2014.
BingoBoingo: So, total lunar eclipse balcony view. Pretty cool, but lacks the magic of solar totality.
mircea_popescu: harem vote decided we're too lazy to go check it out.
BingoBoingo: Well, I used a compass and a map to determine I didn't have to go anywhere special to see it and thus it was seen
mircea_popescu: pretty sure it's partial here, and i'm on the wrong side of teh hill momentarily.
BingoBoingo: I'd go out of my way to see a total solar eclipse again, very strong inducement of wonder. Lunar well... not so much
BingoBoingo: And the moon going into and out of totality isn't the shocker that the sun is. At least not when artificial lighting is involved.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in unexpected lulz, LordMPofTMSR "How about you drop whatever it is you're doing and dedicate your life to serving me ?" PetiteGoddess21 21F Dom "Yes sir" LordMPofTMSR "Nah, meanwhile had a look at your profile. Not interested."
asciilifeform: lol!
asciilifeform: is this a 1st ?
mircea_popescu: nah.
asciilifeform: masochist:'beat me pleez!' sadist:'never!'
mircea_popescu: more layers than that. domme "yes sir", omnimaster "meh" etc.
asciilifeform: what was in the profile ?
asciilifeform: ... had dogface ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose that nah's unclear. plenty cases before where "domme" goes all soft for me ; plenty of cases before where "um... actually looking at your pics... nevermind". and some cases before where these two met, but never before in 12 words or less.
mircea_popescu: so in that sense ... first.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, dood. she's just weirdlooking.
mircea_popescu: https://i.ibb.co/162btrS/derpychick.jpg
asciilifeform: a++ prominent crate of vodka in photo
mircea_popescu: i dunno that thing's anything anyone'd ever drink
mircea_popescu: ustards writing "vodka" on some crap they made dun make it so.
mircea_popescu: wtf is it, even ?
asciilifeform: 'табуретовка'
asciilifeform: btw is there a ro ver of that term?
asciilifeform: 'extract of footstool' approx. i.e. 'this tastes as if it were made from old furniture'
mircea_popescu: for samagon you mean ? "rachiu de pufoaica", literally "goretex brandy".
mircea_popescu: supposedly made out of distilled chicken coop remains -- shit & feathers.
asciilifeform: for rubbish samogon. but yes fits.
mircea_popescu: oh, and, of course : "Latest activity PetiteGoddess21 posted a journal entry on her profile titled “ill sell whatever you want”: about 10 hours ago I'll sell whatever you want ;) ( including videos, pics ,sexting, etc) if got all types of cloths for sale and request how you want them and how many days worn you want I'll also include a video of me playing in them , using them or anything else ... continue reading → " ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: why the fuck do they spell it "cloths".
asciilifeform: prolly cuz the rng picked that one letter to drop this time around
mircea_popescu: nah. back in the day they used to spell "rogue" (the high fantasy playable character, right ?) as "rouge", notwithstanding they spoke no french or anything
asciilifeform: innermost circle of quasiliteracy hell, i suspect, is when even mispelling not consistent
mircea_popescu: it's just, there's some grooves in the moron brain, and they work a certain way.
mircea_popescu: and of course there's "dominate" as a fucking noun. "she's a dominate".
asciilifeform: funny how all that 19th c. sweat put into making engl look like a human lang, with standard typography etc, more or less evaporated in <20y span
mircea_popescu: what irks me is that these are contrary "eases" -- if you say "well, cocksucker, can't palatalize anymore, there's no 'nt' in her world" then what do you say to "she prefers pronouncing ths to thes"
asciilifeform: in e.g. pravd^H^H^Hwapo, 'times', etc, will find malapropisms on front pg, and outright line noise on nth pg
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha. there's an interesting similarity at work here : the "nuclear family" nonsense spring, painfully and costly wound up by the imbecile universalist-chrsitian sect over a century, unwound in a few decades via http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-19#1888412 process. this, of course, "nobody notices". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-19 19:25 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in sad lulz, https://www.blacktowhite.net/threads/moving-away-from-cuckold-into-stag-vixen.146933/ ("Are people moving away? I'm noticing a shift in ads, profiles and websites that I browse. No one is really looking for a cuckold thing anymore. I got enthralled with the cuckold fantasy and I would love to meet a couple that was for it. But Cuckolds couples are hard to find. Couples, single females are easier but as
mircea_popescu: but THEN, the EXACT SAME nonsense spring, painfully and costly wound up by previous generation of exactly-same imbeciles, "english human lang", unwinding EXACT SAME WAY
mircea_popescu: first the "ease and inclusion" and then the "proper expression" etc.
asciilifeform: it's esp frustrating to watch when you were beaten with sticks to learn the king's english for no particularly good reason
mircea_popescu: ah.
mircea_popescu: well, i guess i have the priviledge & advantage a) nobody dared beat me, sticks or otherwise coupled with b) was always better at english than anyone anyways.
asciilifeform as 5yo was already sweating, filling exercise boox
mircea_popescu: did i recount that incident when we were visiting england in a group (of 20+ people, including 3 professional english teachers) and teh stewardesses asked me to explain things to the rest (of the unruly orcs), back in early 90s ?
asciilifeform: dun recall
mircea_popescu: one of those poor women had to be my english teacher for YEARS to come, in school.
mircea_popescu: mme carolina orasan. she wasn't very good -- but she was studious and insistent, and i suppose perfectly fine for an orc. the others, even worse.
asciilifeform: sounds like typical orc lang instructor
mircea_popescu: aha.
asciilifeform: it's what we had in grade school. but asciilifeform's folx decided that was rubbish, took him to old woman with buncha aquariums in her flat, who actually spoke the lang somehow
mircea_popescu: it's amusing, if one takes a dispassionate look, how equally likely to hurt as to hinder are parental best intentions.
asciilifeform had nfi as 5yo, but his folx's plot to move , incl. destination, was already in motion then
mircea_popescu: o wait -- did i say two negatives ? i meant "help as to hinder".
mircea_popescu: please believe.
asciilifeform: ( the funny bit, is that of course had to fucking relearn , nobody in gringolandia actually speaks the lang that asciilifeform was taught... )
mircea_popescu: i dunno why people fret so much about languages generally.
mircea_popescu: they really are not hard, especially once one stops whiteknuckling quite so hard. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( was moar like http://bimbo.club/2019/01/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-july-august-and-september-1716-part-ii/ etc )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform should prolly use it on the dating scene, young hussies respond quite well!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i entirely agree, as consequence of the 'abuse' asciilifeform never once 'fretted' about languages
mircea_popescu: yeah, learn pinoy over blowjobs or w/e it is. how hard can it be, and how long can it stay that way.
mircea_popescu: the language, i mean.
asciilifeform: can even learn from a half-working shortwave set, if must.
mircea_popescu: my english came to me from computers and cartoons.
asciilifeform: worx a++
mircea_popescu: (back then romanians hadn't yet taken the step of imbecility and dubbed nothing.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had such 'dubs' that one still could ( and normally would, if actually care to understand half a shit ) hear the orig track
mircea_popescu: how's that work ?
asciilifeform: poor sync, and mumble
mircea_popescu: o brother.
mircea_popescu: that must've been plenty frustrating, too.
asciilifeform: btw apparently the 'translator wears clothespin on nose' item is mythical : turns out that good % of the tapes were simply dubbed by this 1 ex-boxer, with perma-broken nose
mircea_popescu: hahaha
mircea_popescu: well, in ro you got ro text overimposed on english speech. if one's brain works AT ALL...
asciilifeform: y'know, same fella who turned 'diehard' into 'умри тяжело'
mircea_popescu: lol. such an inept habit this. even today, you know, download some film, discover it has a ru spoken track, that's it.
mircea_popescu: WHO THE FCUK could POSSIBLY!!!! in any conceivable universe!!!! want to hear some ukr cosmetologist INSTEAD of bette davis ?
asciilifeform: there's oddballs continuing the 'fine tradition' out of , i suspect, sheer nostalgia. ( i do not know whether they use clothespin or get somebody to break nose tho... )
mircea_popescu: possibly the #1 extant item which puts russkis today in the situation of ye olde http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-19#1826770 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 16:04 mircea_popescu: and we can keep going, but you get the idea. russians had managed to make themselves as impopular as humanly possible with the ~only martial neighbour it had at the time.
mircea_popescu: i literally know people who would genocide the country for this one sin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform speaking of which item, you ever seen il scopone scientifico ?
asciilifeform: nein
mircea_popescu: bette davis' last role, together with a decent it crew (mangano, sordi).
mircea_popescu: do me a favour and watch the it, not the ru dialogues lol.
mircea_popescu: actually, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-iegjCj-iI
asciilifeform pushes to queue
mircea_popescu: in other euloraleaks, it seems self-evident that by the time we're done writing a kernel in ada, the os will be called auntoo, right.
mircea_popescu: as per ye olde omnibus->autobus broken etymologyu tradition.
asciilifeform already has, of sorts, 'os in ada'. ( it only adds, subs, muls, modexps... but what moar could one want!111 )
mircea_popescu: the BAB instr.
asciilifeform: hm?
asciilifeform: ...returns babbage's dictum?
mircea_popescu: BAB wrong_number wrong_number > right
asciilifeform: aaha exactly so
mircea_popescu: you asked what more, yes ? i told.
asciilifeform: babbage lives in erry instruction.
asciilifeform: babbage 'жил, жив, будет жить', a la lenin.
asciilifeform: re eulora -- occurred to asciilifeform to wonder, does the thing actually demand the 3d card ? or could just as readily polygonize with cpu
mircea_popescu: could, and does.
mircea_popescu: it's not very intensive ; and pretty sure we talked about this befoar.
asciilifeform: then could readily 'os' aha
mircea_popescu: most machines today have a vidcard for the whole rounded corners bs anyways.
asciilifeform: i also thought there was in the l0gz a place where somebody measured it with 'soft' 3d and it gave 60+hz. ( can't seem to dig up tho )
mircea_popescu: /fps > 59.76 displaying FPS.
mircea_popescu: i think it's actually capped at 60 in configs tho.
asciilifeform: i dun think i even have any moar displays that do >60
asciilifeform: ( interesting 'step backwards' if you thinkaboutit.. )
mircea_popescu: well, much harder to do on the new shits than was on crt.
mircea_popescu: back then, if it came to it, could give luser knob, make it 10khz
asciilifeform: you can buy'em, supposedly, but they have castrated palette
asciilifeform: (6bit channels iirc)
mircea_popescu: other than terminals which are habitually filmed, i can't imagine what use for non-60hz refresh.
mircea_popescu: and even then -- nothing under 2-3k or so worth the mention.
asciilifeform: in the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-21#1888701 days, that crt was already the last 1 in the lab ( the headpiece was a lcd shutter, and demanded a 120hz display to output the left-right sequential frames. so had to crt. ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-21 00:27 asciilifeform: i had a 30k$ sgi 3d viewer thing, worked ok ( 1 part 50kg crt, other part went on yer head. ) point is that nao you can get ~same thing for 100. not that there's much in the way of people who are still doing any of this afaik.
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, even the 60hz panels are 'step back' in that they have sloppy vsync, frames tear.
asciilifeform: even 'eizo' et al.
mircea_popescu: o yeah. you should see this "large screen", scrolls visibly on diagonal.
asciilifeform: it's a plague.
asciilifeform: iirc we even had a 2014 thread, whole thing where machine shits the frame to the lcd at N hz, is retarded, framebuffer oughta live in the display
asciilifeform: ( which , if lcd, is ~regardless~ stuck latching the bits, even nao )
mircea_popescu: aha.
asciilifeform: ( this is ~already~ a metre or whatever - sized sram ! )
asciilifeform: depressing subj, back when i had crt, never 1ce saw 'frame tear', not since cga days at any rate
asciilifeform: today -- even emacs tears.
asciilifeform played 'quake' on 486 'dx2', at 11fps... but no tear!11
asciilifeform brb,teatime
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/01/unrest-today-israel-kills-4-syrian-soldiers-in-airstrike-after-syria-rejected-israeli-demand-not-to-shoot-down-missiles-during-earlier-airstrike/ << Qntra -- Unrest Today: Israel Kills 4 Syrian Soldiers In Airstrike After Syria Rejected Israeli Demand Not To Shoot Down Missiles During Earlier Airstrike
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-21#1888880 -> this reminds me of "after first 10 languages or so, ALL the rest are really easy to learn" lol ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-21 16:03 mircea_popescu: they really are not hard, especially once one stops whiteknuckling quite so hard.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-17#1888176 << to update: I've just now set up irssi on the box with no issues. ty again ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-17 22:19 lobbes: ty BingoBoingo. login successful. Will attempt irssi setup later and report back
mircea_popescu: lol. YES!
Mocky: trinque is there anything wrong with my deposit from a week ago sunday? It seems not to have gone thru
trinque: Mocky: nope, just people have been pinging me when they have a deposit, since running them is a human step.
trinque: I'll get to it shortly
Mocky: ok thx
BingoBoingo: lobbes: ty
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'numpy' ( 1 of the few useful libs for that lang, does various numericalmethods ) Officially turns tard, proclaims 'this is last ver to support python 2.7, from nao on 3'
asciilifeform: http://www.numpy.org/neps/nep-0014-dropping-python2.7-proposal.html << from horse's mouth.
mircea_popescu: sooo... while the right-honourable ingredients involved sit for a moment in a bowl to make friends with each other, allow me to describe for posterity what is right and properly known as "the despration breakfast".
mircea_popescu: in a bowl you flake smoked trout, with chunked : onion (red, raw), pickled gherkins (salt pickles, not vinegar "pickles"), artichoke ; add capers, fresh (or salt-pickled) tarragon leaf. the base cheese is something sweet (schweizer works fine in this instant example), the signatuer cheese is something sharp (here, a very fine camambert, but ideally, casu marzu, well ripe).
mircea_popescu: to be served on a bed of lettuce ; on the side : smoked sprats and eggs overed easy with cayenne pepper.
mircea_popescu: and for desert -- breakfast doesn;t take desert ?! who says ! -- cashew chocolate paste and (separately!) cozonac filling, served on scottish-style shortbread cookies.
asciilifeform: sounds heavy
mircea_popescu: gotta get that cholesterol up somehow.
mircea_popescu: plus, of course, a chardonnay, a zinfadel, something, preferably vienese style (crushed ice, mineral water, wine in equal parts)
mircea_popescu: and thus restaurated, we can then continue our readings of the morn! to wit : "You didn't talk like that before," said Dulcie plaintively. "I—I thought perhaps you'd be glad to see me. You were once. And—and—when you went away last you asked me to—to—kiss you, and I did, and I wish I hadn't. And you gave me a ginger[Pg 72] lozenge with your name written on it in lead pencil, and I gave you a cough-lozenge with mine;
mircea_popescu: and you said it was to show that you were my sweetheart and I was yours. But I suppose you've eaten the one I gave you?"
mircea_popescu: lead pens ftw, how sweeter the love!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is somebody 'stress testing' trilema box ? thing seems to give 1+sec pg load time, for coupla days nao
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-21#1888953 << imho all the roman langs count as 1!111 (ditto germans; slavs; etc) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-21 17:07 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-21#1888880 -> this reminds me of "after first 10 languages or so, ALL the rest are really easy to learn" lol