tmsr - Log 2017-11-01

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mircea_popescu: !#s "bitcoinmagazine.net"

a111: 4 results for "\"bitcoinmagazine.net\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22bitcoinmagazine.net%22

mircea_popescu: also gone-gone.

mircea_popescu: mod6 hehe bitotter.com still on :D

BingoBoingo: !!help

deedbot: http://deedbot.org/help.html

BingoBoingo: First ISP statment should be ready tonight

mircea_popescu: !#s "btcscoop.com"

a111: 36 results for "\"btcscoop.com\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22btcscoop.com%22

mod6: mircea_popescu: haha, yup, should be :]

mircea_popescu: !#s "btcshares.com"

a111: 17 results for "\"btcshares.com\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22btcshares.com%22

mircea_popescu: !!up felipelalli

deedbot: felipelalli voiced for 30 minutes.

felipelalli: !#s "benvulpes"

a111: 3 results for "\"benvulpes\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22benvulpes%22

felipelalli: p.benvulpes.com is unreachable to me.

mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/ <

mircea_popescu: !#s "codinginmysleep"

a111: 14 results for "\"codinginmysleep\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22codinginmysleep%22

felipelalli: thanks mircea_popescu

mircea_popescu: !!up maxidev

deedbot: maxidev voiced for 30 minutes.

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in ancient lulz, http://chedr.ca/2015/04/your-emotions-are-irrelevant-and-youve-missed-the-point/

mircea_popescu: !#s "devilsadvocate.biz"

a111: 41 results for "\"devilsadvocate.biz\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22devilsadvocate.biz%22

mircea_popescu: also ded.

felipelalli: BingoBoingo, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qckGW/?raw=true

felipelalli: !#s "SegWit"

a111: 146 results for "\"SegWit\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22SegWit%22

felipelalli: mircea_popescu, I tried some IRC bouncers services and almost all is 100% shit. Do you recommend me a good service? Easy & quick to setup? Thanks.

mircea_popescu: we're in the process of setting up a republican isp because non-republican isps are 100% shit.

felipelalli: With a decent IRC bouncer! s2

shinohai: Coming soon! (tm)

felipelalli: Amazing company!

shinohai: https://imgur.com/gallery/gKCaj

shinohai: Run moar cloud: http://archive.is/7dNcy

mircea_popescu recalls the openssh census lulz

BingoBoingo: This has been a good run of meetings these past couple days. Yesterday the speaker was a "jackpot victim", tonight two newcomers came in one fresh outta rehab.

mod6: Good Evening TMSR~, the State of Bitcoin Address from The Bitcoin Foundation should be out tomorrow.

mircea_popescu: in other "closer ties", usg managed to get samsung's boss convicted for "corruption".

mircea_popescu: aww, anjie quit umlauting too. which "distributed multiuser platform" bla bla lasted exactly as long as she kept pushing the idiots.

BingoBoingo: Maybe everyone's waiting for TMSR ISP?

mircea_popescu: that was 2015.

BingoBoingo: I was still only working step 1 back then.

BingoBoingo: !!deed http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/bpnmx/?raw=true ☟︎

BingoBoingo: ^ pls to let me know if retarded or sane

deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/il-bestione/ << Trilema - Il bestione

ben_vulpes: doesn't seem terribly wacky, BingoBoingo

ben_vulpes: pantsuit purge? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/10/31/house-financial-services-chairman-jeb-hensarling-announces-he-wont-run-re-election/818337001/

BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Ty, how is your thing coming along. Ready to try splitting undersea cable cost in 2021?

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo why not on your blog ? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: moreover, it's impossible to read through the wordage. are you saying that you sold bitcoin at 6.05kusd ? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://archive.is/R55fd << check it out, peter surda is "saddened" by "the great bitcoin blocksize debate". you know, the march 2017 version of it, that is pre the fucking of bitcvoin crash and post the fucking of usgavin. somewhere in between.

mircea_popescu: but THEN the fucktarded imbecile with thoroughly unwarranted delusions of relevancy and independence somehow magically omits to spend the intervening six months sucking the cock of the winning camp.

mircea_popescu: because he has this option, in his dumb head, he may pick and choose. and this alternate strategy of "picking winners" in the sense of "i'll only condescend to be defeated if i like the idea, and otherwise pretend nothing happened" totally works! it's a viable alt-strategy that leads straight to personal importance and relevancy!!1

mircea_popescu: fucktards already jesus f. christ.

mircea_popescu: and in other great victories, ethereum-info.de ☟︎

asciilifeform: to pile on the lulz re subj, asciilifeform saw ethertardium adcrapolade on a filterless comp in ro

asciilifeform: ( what kind of sense this could have made, is question that i will leave to the pro entomologists )

mircea_popescu: what's a filterless comp ?

asciilifeform: virginal vm with heathenware

asciilifeform: piped via public wifitron

asciilifeform: ( i.e. not a 'cookiated' or otherwise specifically contaminated item )

mircea_popescu: the entirely of the usg-i-cant-believe-its-not-bitcoin is the orc colonized lands. there, they actually believe the shit they read in bad localized versions of the ny times.

asciilifeform: gotta be

mircea_popescu: sorta how the survival of the inept imperial bureaucracy was called "the church" in the orclands.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731660 << i must confess that this did not make proper sense to me. is BingoBoingo's isp exists ? or 'hoped to exist' ? how operated ? none of this is clear from the linked txt ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 05:35 BingoBoingo: !!deed http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/bpnmx/?raw=true

mircea_popescu: rewrite needed.

asciilifeform: verily

mircea_popescu: also, ima jungle today, might not have the patience to cut up patch for sat dish.

asciilifeform: it strikes me as the archetypical 'dividing the skin of an unkilled bear' , BingoBoingo ☟︎

asciilifeform: jungle << neato

asciilifeform: give my regards to the ocelot.

mircea_popescu: dja see teh crocs ?

asciilifeform: i did ! but will nitpick, i indeed have stared in the mouth of a living croc

mircea_popescu: this is no nitpick! good for you!

asciilifeform: wasn't in genuine cocastan tho : we had a travelling exhibit, with plexiglass trailers etc, fiddybux a ticket.

asciilifeform: i find it interesting how the apparatus of the crocodilians is mechanically put together

asciilifeform: essentially a bear trap made of flesh and bone

mircea_popescu: nah. crocodile, notwithstanding is hardly a reptile, more a bird/dinosaur, is actually quite intelligent.

asciilifeform: it 'winds' for as long as 20-30sec, before it can be 'sprung'; and during this interval, theoretically a man can hold it closed and prevent the 'spring' from winding, with one hand. but asciilifeform was not permitted into the crocodilarium to verify this truism.

mircea_popescu: has cerebral cortex even. did you know it traps birds ?

asciilifeform: same as we trap birds ?

mircea_popescu: at all points duct tape can keep it shut. the opening muscles are very weak indeed. the closing muscles however... 50kN, like fucking metal press.

asciilifeform: it flies in, snaps ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah.

asciilifeform: it's exactly a mousetrap aha

asciilifeform: but how birds ?

mircea_popescu: what it does is htis : 1. it knows when bird nesting season is because 2. this means twigs are scarce so 3. constructs an arrangement of twigs on its nose

asciilifeform: this is pretty neat. i had nfi.

mircea_popescu: it generally understands animal behaviour. such as times to water and etc.

asciilifeform: for a beast that cannot chew -- it gotta

mircea_popescu: they actually have a sort of team-chew implemented.

asciilifeform: ( all he can do, is pull you into the water, and rotate himself like propeller to tear off $chunk )

asciilifeform brb, meat

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> also, ima jungle today, might not have the patience to cut up patch for sat dish. << cool!

mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731672 << haha ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 14:00 mircea_popescu: and in other great victories, ethereum-info.de

shinohai imagines satellite tmsr interwebz

mod6: how goes shinohai!

shinohai: heya mod6 o7

mod6: o7

asciilifeform: shinohai: shortwave imho far moar realistic, practical, cheap-and-angry.

asciilifeform: ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688405 and elsewhere ) ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 17:26 mircea_popescu: the scheme DOES for instance require people maintain non-internet connections, and in general : multimedium links. because otherwise the night of no internet means the end of the republic as such.

trinque had a ham radio license once upon a time ☟︎

asciilifeform: trinque: does 0 good re subj. you're a pirate, yarrrr, right off the bat, because crypto

trinque: bother. I suppose I'll walk around reciting hex from a paper, turn my arrest into an art project

asciilifeform: either that, or make use of past 100 yrs of tactic re anti-triangulation : e.g. a) radio doesn't live next to your earthly carcass, controlled remotely b) radio is not 1 emitter, but synchronized chorus ( see saddam's jammer thread) c) radio dun look like a radio, but like 'defective' appliance plausibly d ) use imagination

asciilifeform: not to mention that it doesn't particularly need to transmit more than a few sec/day.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-22#1547061 << old thread, with 1 suggested scheme. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-09-22 14:31 asciilifeform: 1) every old lappy comes with a high-quality DAC fit for shortwave! the vga card.

trinque: sure, there was a guy in highschool cruising around in a pirate radio van

asciilifeform: wholly different item, and trivially, cheaply quashed with 1930s tech

asciilifeform: continuously transmitting loud point source == target.

trinque: point's less the efficacy of the approach but rather, loud point source didn't get squashed

trinque: small, intermittent, moving one, much better

asciilifeform: there was a fly in my house earlier and also didn't get squashed.

asciilifeform: but if you set up a tower and start pumping 100kW into it, just about anywhere on planet, folx will show up to ask questions

asciilifeform: and unless you have artillery salvo with which to answer these questions, adventure will be short.

asciilifeform: asciilifeform finds it more than a little puzzling how little of past 30y of cheap cpu, has been put to use in advancing illicit radio -- where is the dc-to-daylight cryptospreadspectrum pirate ? why idjits still on fixed frequencies, like it were 1930s today ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( it is conceivable that such a thing exists but wholly outside of asciilifeform's light cone, note. )

mod6: would be interesting ya

asciilifeform: ohai mod6 , how goeth

asciilifeform: !!unrate ascii_in_orcland

deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/nzDXB/?raw=true

asciilifeform: !!v 6741FEDC8EACAFF80E5C156AE9E05ECD775BEB3D10998D32901FE6062CD03577

deedbot: asciilifeform unrated ascii_in_orcland. ☟︎

BingoBoingo: Rewrite in works http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731666 << No good reason. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731667 << No, attempting to list the advance as a debt by recreating necessary TMSR accounting out of log fragments http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731682 << Will try not juggling network topology in forebrain when rewriting http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731687 << There will be rug ☝︎☝︎☝︎☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 13:13 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo why not on your blog ?

a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 13:14 mircea_popescu: moreover, it's impossible to read through the wordage. are you saying that you sold bitcoin at 6.05kusd ?

a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 14:36 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731660 << i must confess that this did not make proper sense to me. is BingoBoingo's isp exists ? or 'hoped to exist' ? how operated ? none of this is clear from the linked txt

a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 14:36 asciilifeform: it strikes me as the archetypical 'dividing the skin of an unkilled bear' , BingoBoingo

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> shinohai: shortwave imho far moar realistic, practical, cheap-and-angry. << Undersea cables for most work, run them between cool kids (China/Chile, etc), keep shortwave because pantsuit process of "What's they point they fall back to shortwave" ☟︎

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> not to mention that it doesn't particularly need to transmit more than a few sec/day. << Janitorial service, vacuums. Recieve at landromat.

mod6: <+asciilifeform> ohai mod6 , how goeth << good!

asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Vv4dq/?raw=true

jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.

asciilifeform: !!up unrate rothbart

deedbot: unrate voiced for 30 minutes.

asciilifeform: grr

asciilifeform: ugh,

asciilifeform: !!unrate rothbart

deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/C7k1a/?raw=true

asciilifeform: !!unrate solrodar

deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/fQTwO/?raw=true

asciilifeform: !!unrate doppler

deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WNoBK/?raw=true

asciilifeform: !!unrate ccmtacks

deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/UHf88/?raw=true

asciilifeform: !!v F5D1A734D8119D46C98B039E1AFF1D011EC5BBAAB472A6BBA7B7048EE0B86442

deedbot: asciilifeform unrated rothbart.

asciilifeform: !!v ACF5C1B6429DF3BF7BDACF6ADDA95D9787CB80D1E71F2DD3546FB5AFEDB6790F

deedbot: asciilifeform unrated solrodar.

asciilifeform: !!v 56BBC2A14639A2DE12462D5A518A48C8BD235F621A02B58A789EE55DC95C9329

deedbot: asciilifeform unrated doppler.

asciilifeform: !!v 4556DC5CA62415311E7BA2BBDF43920C5B893B6B6AD95EFFF4E498EF052DC279

deedbot: asciilifeform unrated ccmtacks.

deedbot: http://deedbot.org/bundle-492667.txt

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731750 << cables make satellite look cheap and defensible. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 17:57 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> shinohai: shortwave imho far moar realistic, practical, cheap-and-angry. << Undersea cables for most work, run them between cool kids (China/Chile, etc), keep shortwave because pantsuit process of "What's they point they fall back to shortwave"

asciilifeform: they are imho an intrinsically usgistic item -- costly, fragile, vulnerable, conspicuous. ☟︎

asciilifeform: they're rather like fields of wheat -- practically an invitation for mountain horsemen to come and rape.

BingoBoingo: Well, figure they get saved for ability to say Ghandi's trademark line: "Our words are backed by nuclear weapons"

asciilifeform: didn't save su cable in sea of japan from 'ivy bells' . ☟︎

BingoBoingo: Su was to passive about it, unlike ghandi

asciilifeform: or for that matter the current ones from regular nsa-authored 'oopses'

BingoBoingo: Other Sue once again, too passive

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the world of 'totally not stolen from #t', https://archive.is/UuRQt ☟︎

asciilifeform: 'how Bitfinex themselves ran arbitrage with other exchanges, and displayed orders from other exchanges as their own, as if it was their own order book' etc. ☟︎

BingoBoingo: two cans one string!

asciilifeform: and meanwhile in 'totally not stolen from phuctor!1!' >> https://archive.is/BjqlE .

davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731786 <<< i don't see any fundamental problem with taking liquidity from somewhere and reselling it in your shop ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 18:34 asciilifeform: 'how Bitfinex themselves ran arbitrage with other exchanges, and displayed orders from other exchanges as their own, as if it was their own order book' etc.

asciilifeform: davout: no problem with selling items that may or may not exist or have any connection whatsoever to reality ?! ☟︎

asciilifeform: and to shelve them right next to actuals. ☟︎

BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all

jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 6570.1, vol: 11325.72041369 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 6571.5, vol: 53071.51771809 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 6596.0, vol: 4677.10950758 | Volume-weighted last average: 6572.92937542

BingoBoingo: !!up doppler

deedbot: doppler voiced for 30 minutes.

BingoBoingo: !~bcstats

BingoBoingo: In classic Trilema http://trilema.com/2014/a-useful-list-of-things/

doppler: haha, the last list item is great ☟︎

BingoBoingo: And in other SOPs Sopping slop: "Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia had agreed to allow Robert Mueller to use something called the crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege to compel testimony from an attorney who formerly represented Paul Manafort and Manafort’s onetime employee Rick Gates." ☟︎

asciilifeform: in other rolulz, http://www.umcugir.ro/products.html << alive an' well

asciilifeform: but natoized .

asciilifeform: http://www.umcugir.ro/Buget-Bilanturi%20contabile.html << public statements, interestingly. ☟︎

asciilifeform: went, apparently, into the black, when absorbed into the reich machine. ☟︎

asciilifeform: meanwhile in the world of rotaku kitsch, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX9TRiFaS6c ☟︎

asciilifeform: ^ asciilifeform spotted $subj playing in one of the restaurants in timis

asciilifeform: ^ approx. a ro-flavoured 'широка страна моя родная'. ☟︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: rogue states are all quite alike, whether they use 'crime-fraud exception' or 'soldering iron up yer starfish exception' to 'compel testimony'

davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-01#1731806 <<< /me actually enjoyed :D ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-11-01 20:30 asciilifeform: meanwhile in the world of rotaku kitsch, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX9TRiFaS6c

asciilifeform: metoo.

davout: not understanding the lyrics might actually help i suspect

asciilifeform: it's mebbe 1stgrade level.

davout: your "kindergarten-level" claims don't fool anyone

asciilifeform: i'll let the actual ro-boriginals settle this one, lol ☟︎

davout used to listen to stuff like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrEzx-FryfE

asciilifeform: such europistan!1!!

davout: promised land!!1

asciilifeform: protocol land.

davout: another pretty cool one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mKcM-Hbct8

davout: gets actually started after a minute or so ☟︎

asciilifeform: meanwhile in timis prime realestate, http://insolventa.ro/vanzari-3/imobiliare/spatii/spatii-depozitare-hale/818-proprietate-imobiliara-buzias

asciilifeform: ^ BingoBoingo ?

asciilifeform: i immediately thought of your desert hotel

BingoBoingo: Oh my

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Someone needs to get some practice doing stucco!

mod6: jurov: thanks for posting the October report!