PeterL: anyway, I have to go take care of the kids, as always I keep an eye on the logs.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 23:37 asciilifeform: let p be any 4096b prime, let q be any 4096b prime, throw out both if pq exposes a high bit of 0
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 20:30 asciilifeform: but instead a rerun of the august item
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 20:54 asciilifeform: but rather confiscation of the whole shebang from the wreckers.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 22:32 asciilifeform: hey mircea_popescu , radio havana reported 'tres muertos' in yer earthquake.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 22:41 lobbes: i.e. it still uses someone else's code for the 'core' irc functionality. I'd rather that core functionality be ircbot, but of course this'll be a huge time investment migrating everything (and learning lisp). In the hopper, though.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 23:44 asciilifeform: this is 1st grade material.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 23:46 PeterL_: hmm, I must have missed that day in 1st grade
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 03:17 mircea_popescu: the notion that bitcoin can somehow by stolen by name is so ridoinculous as to betray its ustardian origins. bitcoin is not a name.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 14:36 mircea_popescu: however you "cut" the problem out, the surface of the cut becomes the problem
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kyliee: Bitcoin... I need to understand how to trade without using one of the government run platforms
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BingoBoingo still has more tax law to read, but new rough number is 61.615 USd/week per RU or 267 USd/monthly per RU
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Calculated as 2*{[(monthly rack with 22% VAT)/(40 Salable RU)]*(12 Months)}/(52 weeks)
BingoBoingo: Figure subject to change as more tax law is digested
BingoBoingo: This is a reduction of ~21.47% over number from last night taken through weekification and de-fxrisking transform.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 23:45 asciilifeform: nope.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 23:43 asciilifeform: and the difficulty of breaking rsa via known methods is proportional to the size of the smallest prime. you oughta know that.
apeloyee: ...factors differ only a few bits in length, it doesn't appear to be better than NFS.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 23:59 asciilifeform: at any rate this is a quite pointless imho discussion, we will NOT be reintroducing normalized integer braindamage.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 03:30 asciilifeform: ( reading the linked item, it would be impossible to infer that it is ~not~ one )
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 06:16 BingoBoingo still has more tax law to read, but new rough number is 61.615 USd/week per RU or 267 USd/monthly per RU
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 11:27 apeloyee: ...factors differ only a few bits in length, it doesn't appear to be better than NFS.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-14 17:21 mircea_popescu: tmsr rsa standard key is 515 bits, made out of a 257 and a 258 bit long prime.
mircea_popescu: factors that are very small are trivially a vulnerability, as the 17 example shows. what is "small enough" is somewhat of an open question, but 512 BITS does conceiovably qualify.
mircea_popescu: there's no argument that informations about range of factors CAN be used. the point is minorily that a) a range of 2045 bits is sufficient and majorily that b) should this range NOT be sufficient, the correct response is to extend IT, rather than to introduce key-substitute mechanisms in the actual encryption scheme.
mircea_popescu: ie, "you have the following information about any and all factors : they're 11 led, 1 terminated, 2045 true random bits. knock yourself out."
mircea_popescu: yes, in about 6% of cases the N will come out as 111..., in which case you know that both p and q are actually 1111 1111 led, ie you'll have 2 bits of each. and in 0.001% of cases N will led by FF and have the next bit set, so you'll know both p and q have the first octet set. if you have an extension attack allowing you to parlay 8 leading bits into the prime exposure, you can thereby crack rsa in 0.001% of cases.
mircea_popescu: as far as anyone knows, something closer to 450 bits is what's actually needed.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 11:30 apeloyee:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1739383 << you can just use 4096*4096 multiplies. It's lulzy to see how you rant about "proper" rsa and demand full-size exponents, but somehow restricting range of p and q is OK.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 15:01 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737387 << this is alternatively a perfectly acceptable approach ; expensive as all fuck though. prolly should be the standard for homemade keys.
mircea_popescu: it may appear beneficial to instead produce larger sets, such as of 4096 bits. the UPPER BOUND of the gain from this process is known ; the lower bound of losses from it is not known, because yes if you allow 4096 bit p, q and test, an acceptable N can be composed of the product between 17 and 2^4092 - 177 or whatever it was.
mircea_popescu: so logically if indeed the larger upper bound was deemed useful we'd move the standard to 8192 bits N with 4096 bit p/q rather than do this.
mircea_popescu: cultivated enough to mention bernstein&gf curve, uncomprehending enough to "post quantum algorithms". how do these happen, i wish to know.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 11:27 apeloyee:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1739374 << can you enlighten us about why you believe there's no way to use information about range of factors (because you say so?), and about the
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1739371 as regards the number field sieve, as this doesn't seem to be published (or perharps for quadratic sieve). elliptic curve does benefit from smaller factors, but if the...
mircea_popescu: or consider something as simple as phuctor, that already has a lot of "special" primes, however you define special (small, common, whatevewr)
mircea_popescu: the importance of a phuctor style primorial+commonkeyset gcding away is somehow easily overlooked by academic minds. but in practical terms it is the first line, degree (or even two!) ahead of haskelism a la gnfs
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 11:30 apeloyee:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1739383 << you can just use 4096*4096 multiplies. It's lulzy to see how you rant about "proper" rsa and demand full-size exponents, but somehow restricting range of p and q is OK.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, bernstein's curve implementation is ALSO free of branching on secret bits, have you seen that thing ?
mircea_popescu: not entirely clear yet if he just AIMED to avoid all secret bit branching or actulaly managed.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 14:00 mircea_popescu: cultivated enough to mention bernstein&gf curve, uncomprehending enough to "post quantum algorithms". how do these happen, i wish to know.
mircea_popescu: exactly in the vein above. "understands how to add, thinks 4>5."
mircea_popescu: got 3-4k together so far. but they do seem vaguely promising, maybe.
mircea_popescu: if can be cleanned enough ; always a dubious proposition in english speakers.
diana_coman: PeterL, did you test your permutation step functions on that keccak implementation? when I feed rho a full-zero state it seems to end up with non-zero output
☟︎ diana_coman: asciilifeform, serpent passed the test vectors!!
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, he had those step functions private so initially inaccessible; so first I've tried a full test (i.e. input is this, do full keccak round, output should be this): it failed; so then I grunted through exposing the step functions at least at this stage and testing bit by bit;
diana_coman: rho step is second,what can I say; first one passed, yes (theta)
diana_coman: rho uses that Rotate_Left function which is imported from gnat; I'd rather not have it in a reference implementation tbh
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't yet know the answer to that; I'm still eating Ada so I can't decide either way; still, I don't ...like it, that's all I said; perhaps there is no solution to it, perhaps there is one
diana_coman: asciilifeform, yes, portable is the rub there; I'll read more on ada for now, nothing much to add atm
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 15:01 asciilifeform: exactly same nonsense as the carry flag thing
mircea_popescu: hey, minigame produced reference implementation of ada keccak can well contain inline asm rotation, and who dun like it can do whatever they will.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: reference means "what works for me" not "what works for others".
mircea_popescu: but reference also has no business baking in whatever quirks of "human rights & the fyotoor", known & unknown.
mircea_popescu: just as reference implementation will bake in FG, and users of others are responsible for others' quirks.
mircea_popescu: aaand asm rotate is a straight asm item, it doesn't lock you etcetera.
mircea_popescu: "oh but mp, other people do it via shortwave radio" "good for them."
diana_coman: aand found the bug at least on this one: rho initialises Ar(0,0) BUT uses then first thing...Ar(1,0)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i suppose ye age olde "i didn't know there was interest" at play.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, it is straightforward from algo descriptions in the reference
diana_coman: the ref is quite good in this respect I'd say, not that hard to follow
diana_coman: well, they did not give you the init of variables wtf!
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 15:20 mircea_popescu: hey, minigame produced reference implementation of ada keccak can well contain inline asm rotation, and who dun like it can do whatever they will.
mircea_popescu: maybe i didn't make the inline incantation sufficiently magical, but anyway. "straight asm", what'd you prefer.
mircea_popescu: "rotation can be directly an opcode item linked as such", how about that.
mircea_popescu: tbh, this item aside (it was just given as an ~example~ anyway), i do not expect that on the medium term we will be able to avoid "and here's the special asm library, links at link time with the rest of compiled shit" situations.
☟︎ hanbot: meanwhile, what do you call a frenchman wearing sandals?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 15:22 asciilifeform: FG is a straight serial device tho, it doesn't lock you into any particular form
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 15:29 mircea_popescu: tbh, this item aside (it was just given as an ~example~ anyway), i do not expect that on the medium term we will be able to avoid "and here's the special asm library, links at link time with the rest of compiled shit" situations.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how do you think anyh of that is relevant ?
mircea_popescu: "my personal fg is plugged into serial port and my personal ada keccak is plugged into iron on which asm works". da fuck special pleading is this.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 15:03 asciilifeform: gcc offers a built-in rotate 'illicitly', but not a portable access to carry flag. because ALSO run by wreckers.
apeloyee: it's a part of the standard, but, sadly, optional.
apeloyee: motherfuckers, there is not a single comp made in 40 years that doesn't have a carry flag. << *excluding non-actual computers.
apeloyee: risc-v wreckers specified no carry flag, for instance
☟︎ apeloyee: on novel physical substrate << you must be designing not just post-quantum, but post-thermodynamic crypto. :P
mircea_popescu: "doesn't go away just because intel stops including it" to ~same degree.
mircea_popescu: to put the point on its proper footing : convention is convention, no different than any other convention. convention doth not become physical law through wide adoption, irrespective how extensive that wideness, in headcount, time, whatever.
mircea_popescu: if the convention can be "you'll need a serial capable machine", as it HAS to can be, then convention can also be "you'll need a cpu with ror/rol implemnented". whether it is decided to make it so has no bearing on whether it could be decided to make it so. that's a 1 : it could be.
mircea_popescu: and so back to the original, there can't "not be alternatives" to gnat. leaving aside the in principle argument, there's alternative by example : expose the cpu instruction and woe to anyone who won't/can't/doesn't.
mircea_popescu: well, the part that's ada is ada and the part that dun work or isn't wanted in ada... isn't ada.
mircea_popescu: gcc or w/e you use as a compiler,. for instance, also not an ada proggy. ada dun even try what lisp tried and failed to obtain, ie, a full universe.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-04 19:59 mircea_popescu: but it's certainly quite deep. the vermin doesn't merely aim to a comfortable existence, but more importantly to a memory-less situation.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, what's the ms-dos gnat compiler ? also gcc ?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 16:41 apeloyee: risc-v wreckers specified no carry flag, for instance
mircea_popescu: "Cloudflare Always Online allows you to read this idiotic banner on content which, unlike cloudflare, is actually valuable and no longer around."
mircea_popescu: why specifically the carry flag as opposed to you know, any other flag ?
mircea_popescu: "your mul was executed but we refuse to tell you what it came to because you might end up using that result somewhere" ?
mircea_popescu: can we not talk about it anymore when discussing risc ? the concept isn't actually without merit, as such.
mircea_popescu: "this cisc thing is too complex,. make a simple one" "why, so there can within a decade 'exist' a thousand different simplicities ?"
mircea_popescu: some dudes organized a "congress" in 1971 in, of course, london.
mircea_popescu: they did lift a 1930s "gypsies of romania" congress flag tho.
mircea_popescu: anyway. lulzy outshot of this megalomaniacal protestant thing ("world council of churches").
mircea_popescu: not exactly. the place where pacepas went before dc was established, cca 1970s/1980s
mircea_popescu: ah, right, post-ww2 reorg of gypsies also produced the gelem gelem thing
mircea_popescu: twas a dubious time, lots got killed in the war, which is how eg lithuania ended up with ~none
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so what do i get from divide by 0 ? rng ?
mircea_popescu: what i mean is : the fact that div by 0 produces a non-uniform distribution of bits in the register suggests to me that it is NOT as flagless as it aims to pretend.
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform nah. Same old thing -- selling M, treading bitch niggas and getting ~nowhere fast.
gabriel_laddel: Could do more, but my foot is busted & surgery takes ages to schedule b/c US 'healthcare' isn't etc.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> im getting at least 4, so. proceed. << Ok, Math/Communication continues
gabriel_laddel: Speaking of which, am going to be performing self-amputation of right foot as it is in the way + I don't trust or want US doctors.
gabriel_laddel: Anyone who gives me good resources (pubmed refs etc) can have the video whenever I get around to it
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ah sorry my bad, week/month nm << Number is strictly what the spot on the rack costs. Prototype "Basic Box" (AMD A8 5545 machine) should be arriving today for evaluation.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: What's going on with the foot?
BingoBoingo: Why not strap it into boot and let heal as it may
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo right heel is totally shattered and collapsed into my upper foot.
mircea_popescu: the medieval standard is "saw the bone and sink the stump in hot oil". this works, but you'll pass out. has to be a third person.
mircea_popescu: moreover, the ~ only good thing to come out of the us is trauma medicine.
BingoBoingo: Also if amputaing taking off only the foot leaves small selection of expensive annoying prostheses. Knee offers more options
mircea_popescu: trinque tbh i was expecting self-hacking is in the pipeline since about a year ago.
trinque: some form of self-harm was never in question
trinque: whatever comes of it, it's going to compress into "I'm not qualified to be free"
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu Glad I brought this up. Am insured, have option of surgery.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Seriously get styling leather boots "Redwing Heritage" or sane world alternative (new, not broken in). Powder limb with with miconazole poweder and strap into the boot.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel just go into er sometime that's not crazy (ie, not sunday at 4:10 am, not right after a shooting rampage etc. they'll sort it out)
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform surgon irritates me on a personal level + the first time stanford tried it, they fucked up
ben_vulpes: how did you even come to fall off the roof, dude?
trinque: "they fucked up turning my chalk dust of a heel into a foot again"
trinque goes to perform constructive self harm at the gym
gabriel_laddel: Fed me too much fluid prior to anaesthetic, which flooded lungs when knocked out. Ended up in ICU for 4 days.
BingoBoingo: Seriously, gabriel_laddel How many rack units do you want to lease once lawyer loves the surgeon's butthole a bit?
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes I jumped from one roof to the other with electricity.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: You are going to get a lawyer. Your lawyer is going to probe the surgeon's colon with his suing member over that lung fluid thing. You will have money. Might as well rent some rackspace and grow your small business.
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> ben_vulpes grabbed edge but couldn't pull myself up. << Most other Americans can't do pull ups either.
ben_vulpes: that's a pretty novice anaesthesia mistake
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes Stanford hospital is a scary place. They lied to me MANY times about how many xrays I'd get, that they'd let me get copies...
BingoBoingo: Just haven't knocked the right door to find it yet?
mircea_popescu: the lung flood anesthesia thing is pretty much textbook medical tort by now.
ben_vulpes: i wonder if there's some "we're a learning hospital, might kill ya, gonna bill ya" going on
ben_vulpes: also, does your insurance somehow only cover the stanford hospital?
mircea_popescu: lulz of all time. "say what ?" "you know, in case anything happens..." "yeees ?"
ben_vulpes: because still on parental plan and they work at the department of bezzletronic edumacation ?
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> scuse me, "teaching hospital" << Does not indemnify
gabriel_laddel: Will compile a report with names of doctors & so forth from paperwork I have, this adhoc bs is silly.
ben_vulpes: hey, show up with a crazy story, get a bunch of crazy questions
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ben_vulpes wait, wait, they came up with a loophole in the whole "Standard of care" scam ? "as long as you doctor for stanford, you get to opt out of the usg lawyer insanity" ?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Open a phone book. Find the second biggest lawyer ad (i.e. takes one whole page instead of two) call them. today
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i have no idea what eldritch magick the stanford lawyer brigade has worked up
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: They have not, but they will play like they have until you get specialist lawyer involved
BingoBoingo: Specialist being exactly the sort of lawyer who runs ads on daytime tv
ben_vulpes: reminds me, i have my own willful violation of patient privacy case to get the ball rolling on
mircea_popescu: it'd be pretty sweet for them if they manage, imagine the wonder "either slave for us or die out in the insane wilds". ideal stanfordism. kinds see why they'd pretend like it's the case -- in the hopes one day they can make it be the case.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Surprisingly most doctor's offices
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> Will compile a report with names of doctors & so forth from paperwork I have, this adhoc bs is silly. << You have no need to do this. Lawyer handles
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Unsure. Varies county by county within each state
BingoBoingo: And the attraction of a Stanford for a doctor is exactly "take this salary, we'll put you on our insurance"
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo having dated an aspiring stanford doctor -- is where the failed engineers go.
BingoBoingo: This means your remora of a lawyer has to be a specialist at this. It isn't podunk Doctor's malpractice carrier. It's Stanfords.
BingoBoingo: The key to the US med mal racket however, is speed. You call the fucking lawyer TODAY gabriel_laddel
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo am in el camino hospital right now, getting a phonebook & phone..
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: this is a surprising turning point, gabriel_laddel actually taking instruction
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: If your room has TV watch trashy daytime TV and count the commercials each lawyer has.
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo am here to visit a friend in psyc ward, totally unrelated to my issue.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Still, watch the tv with friend. Have him check your count
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: tsmr as the only honest, straightforwards, USEFUL collection of humans I'm aware of...
ben_vulpes: in other news, the anti-flirt brigade brought a democrat down today; "al franken"
ben_vulpes: but it couldn't happen, pantsuit tools clearly can only ever be used by them against their enemies
☟︎ mircea_popescu: well, in that they're not so much tools as collected nonsense.
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BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> in other news, the anti-flirt brigade brought a democrat down today; "al franken" << Oh, is he the one who molested the black muscle guy?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel started taking instruction?
deedbot: PeterL voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 14:37 diana_coman: PeterL, did you test your permutation step functions on that keccak implementation? when I feed rho a full-zero state it seems to end up with non-zero output
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 15:23 diana_coman: aand found the bug at least on this one: rho initialises Ar(0,0) BUT uses then first thing...Ar(1,0)
PeterL: rho starts with setting Ar(0,0) to A(0,0), then loops over the rest of the Ar(0,1) to Ar(4,4) so the function does set all 25 lanes
☟︎ PeterL: A being the input array and Ar being the output array; I was trying to follow notation as in the paper, but they use a and A, which ada does not allow
diana_coman: PeterL, hm; it seems though to end up with funny stuff if the output array is not initialised
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mircea_popescu: rando indian is somehow in a position to speak for "ethereum", an on-again-off-again acquarium of rank imbeciles who couldnt manage to as much as paint the basement they inhabited, if it came to it ?
mircea_popescu: too many failure levels. who the fuck is vinay gupta and what the fuck is ethereum to opine on things ?
ben_vulpes: > Attempting to make it culturally and socially impossible for neonazis to migrate to the Etherum platform is, in my opinion, necessary for its survival. We cannot censor, but we can and must fight on every other level to dissuade these people from colonizing our utopian efforts.
mircea_popescu: anyway. pretty fucking epic keks. ethereum became a sort of jokecoin after the rape, which i suppose brings the moral home : rape is educative.
ben_vulpes: > This is our watch: keep nazis off decentralize uncensorable platforms!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes really, ideal ceo from a comedy gold delivery perspective.
ben_vulpes: i cannot fathom the confusion of ideas that would lead someone to say such a thing
ben_vulpes: brain must have cooked through at burning man
mircea_popescu: the french approach : since we know we can't win, might as well burn the stack down in a memorable way.
mircea_popescu: (thum being thomas umbach, the one man behind the ~one man orchestra involved)
mircea_popescu: hey. decisive beats piddly irrespective of any other considerations.
mircea_popescu: intel can't possibly throw money at every "allied" orcdom's here's-our-rack thing.
mircea_popescu: reich media/wikipedia greatly overstate both the reach and the capital available to teh gestapo.
mircea_popescu: did they get moar "oh usg decided to "sell" keyhole to google thereby inqtel has a coupla mn dollars now" sortas items ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the number is ~same as say "ethereum market cap". if you trust the printers, it's whatever they print.
mircea_popescu: if they find four more of the same thing, they can almost pay for that yacht the current saudi boy wonder beached while driving drunk coupla years ago.
mircea_popescu: "apple could buy russia and inqtel could buy a fifth of mohammad bin salman's drunken romp"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no need, saudis are rich. and unlike all the OTHER princes, this one totally uncorrupt and errything :D
mircea_popescu: how fucking dumb teh remains of usg.blue must be to re-do the ~exact~ ukraine failure is anyone's guess...
mircea_popescu: recall the pics with that tall schmuck and kerry pressed together into a us-made floating sardine can
mircea_popescu: what the fuck was his name, the eager brunette cocksucker.
mircea_popescu is too lazy to dig the pics up. for all teh diff it makes...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr, i'm rather doubtful as to actual usg involvement in that. seems a case of "hitchhiker comes across bute, pushes it into the chasm below". well, it's true that "hitchhiker pushed as hard as he could", but it's also true that he didn;t make or specifically find bute.
mircea_popescu: geological phenomena are not specifically open to human "performance" claims lest we end up inventing a new set of sun priest outfits for ourselves.
mircea_popescu: (ie, the false belief that "i pushed - rock obeyed" is dangerous to the "successful" pusher first and foremost -- in a decade or two he finds himself in the laughable position of kerry & friends)
ben_vulpes: is there some 'color revolution' subtext to it as well?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes there's this theory whereby usg oligarchy (ie, the pile of fundamentally corrupt underpinnings of the state, as all state ever is based on corruption nad naught else, which is why colonizers attempt to "root out corruption" in colonial posessions) is split into red section (raytheon and friends) and blue section (stanford and friends)
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 13:15 mircea_popescu: im getting at least 4, so. proceed.
mircea_popescu: there's a great southpark episode explaining how this false dychotomy is intended to work in practice (i'm a bit couintry & im a bit rock and roll item)
☟︎ BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: How many RU are you interested in?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo learned teh hard sell at the school of hard knocks.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: lol gotta get the rack full to make the math work
BingoBoingo: Also selling grass seed at the BingoBoingo store
BingoBoingo sells grass seed like so: Are you starting over or overseeding? How big of an area of your covering? These two products are the only things regionally appropriate here. You will buy X bags of A or Y bags of B. Which do you want?
BingoBoingo: Protests are met with explanations of their idea's inadequacies.
BingoBoingo: Works smoothest with women under 40. Old women and old men protest most before surrendering.
BingoBoingo: Occasional fool goes for "Kentucky 31" tall fescue instead and wonders why their yard looks like a weedy lime green wheat field later
BingoBoingo: Weed control sales interactions are even more hard ball.
BingoBoingo: But smoother except for black men who have trouble understanding the mechanics of poisoning and aren't afraid to hide their ignorace through protest.
diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739830 <- PeterL you are right in that problem with your rho was more subtle: it *should* set all lanes but it didn't because of how new coordinates were calculated; basically you lose old x in the process and end up calculating newY as 5*oldY instead of 2*oldX+3*oldY
☝︎☟︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 19:18 PeterL: rho starts with setting Ar(0,0) to A(0,0), then loops over the rest of the Ar(0,1) to Ar(4,4) so the function does set all 25 lanes
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 20:40 BingoBoingo:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739440 << Update on the proceeding, not-gypsy letter from self's current bank schedule to arrive in 7-10 days. Puts departure around December 1st. Hunting any other sources of delay out.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 22:17 diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739830 <- PeterL you are right in that problem with your rho was more subtle: it *should* set all lanes but it didn't because of how new coordinates were calculated; basically you lose old x in the process and end up calculating newY as 5*oldY instead of 2*oldX+3*oldY
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Have datacenter, working on details that surround that
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 20:45 phf: it's funny that 36xx series is basically an improved cadr. ivory on the other hand? literally scheme86: they poached both the main guy who worked on the cpu ~and the entire toolset~. ivory was still designed on CADR (rather than smbx), because that's where scheme team designed theirs
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, after whatever hotel comes with flight may be living in hostel dorm for first few months.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Which will of course cost ~100-150 more than fiscal address will
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 22:17 diana_coman:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739830 <- PeterL you are right in that problem with your rho was more subtle: it *should* set all lanes but it didn't because of how new coordinates were calculated; basically you lose old x in the process and end up calculating newY as 5*oldY instead of 2*oldX+3*oldY