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asciilifeform: https://archive.li/Mzar8 << when it was in spam pr stage of life cycle.
mircea_popescu: btw, i hope that's adequate payment for all the j/p spam ?
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-04#1820598 <-- indeed it does, and precisely because of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-04#1820603 . I don't know how to design a proper comment mechanism, not necessarily because of spam (I believe mp-wp antispam works), but because I'm not convinced that everyone coming on the blog should be able to leave comments, and if they do, then what format (text-only?) etc. ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: ( funnily enuff, asciilifeform has ~own~ 'mp-wp' , made from ~same vintage of wp, that does admittedly only half of what mircea_popescu's does ( i dun have the spam filtration ) )
spyked: trinque, no, the bot doesn't do anything yet. but there'll be likely some join/part spam. and I'm also wondering whether it should try to self-voice when it gets a -v
esthlos: (though it is exactly typical of a young guy in the situation, but you don't want to be like every other bozo, right?) plus, the spam with the whores annoyed me, and cutsey shit like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1816061 , and doing the minimum possible to get a job done multiple times ☝︎
ben_vulpes: far more interesting story than context-free bitchin about the spam imho
mircea_popescu: anyway, this discussion is vividly bringing to mind acquaintance there. erry day he'd religiously shred the mail spam. "hey, why do you not read it ?" "well, it's spam, waste of time to read. that's why i shred". erry day, half hour, at the least. saving self from the waste of time.
BingoBoingo: And the Uruguayos hate being reminded that the Dictatorship gave them their legal weed. Frente Amplia keeps trying to spam that it was their idea.
asciilifeform: really excitable folx, can spam already, in principle. but nobody to date bothered.
mircea_popescu: yes, but even if you were to, the argument is cogent, "lowering the bar to spamming results in exponential spam volumes"
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 13:44 asciilifeform: additionally, the difficulty of keying in random garbage and having it show up as 'key', has worked to date as primitive, yet 100% effective, spam control.
asciilifeform: additionally, the difficulty of keying in random garbage and having it show up as 'key', has worked to date as primitive, yet 100% effective, spam control. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i sure as fuck won't sift through GB of spam to read strangermail
asciilifeform: surely had a notion that, e.g., spam, exists ?
lobbes apologizes for all the lobbesbot join/part spam. Will have to investigate once out of saltmines
asciilifeform: i have nfi what this is used for, i still labour under impression that spam is -ev and a cargo cult
ben_vulpes: spam-grade coinbase phishin
danielpbarron: lol, i try to avoid spam by making it a pm..
ben_vulpes: gonna spam for a sec, pls hold
ben_vulpes: spam over, thank you for your patience
mod6: The abuse of spam.
lobbes: ben_vulpes no idea. Though I apparently got a pm from "live_cadaver" with similar spam message
shinohai: ^ plox to ignore mah pokarBot spam.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/spamerul-dan-pulic/ << very typical usg's orc programme "art & spam" item.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-04 16:01 mircea_popescu: and in other fucking sads, spam thing had http://trilema.com/2018/bogota-a-mixed-bag/#comment-124440 marked as spam ;/
mircea_popescu: and in other fucking sads, spam thing had http://trilema.com/2018/bogota-a-mixed-bag/#comment-124440 marked as spam ;/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: really clicking "spam" a dozen times is not much of a hassle here.
mircea_popescu looked out of curiosity. in the intervening ~week, trikema spam thingee canned 836 comments, has doubts about 11 and disconnected outright before "put in comment" phase about 1/4 mn attempts.
shinohai: Sorry for spam, doing housecleaning as well.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-27 17:29 spyked: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1776901 <-- neato! ftr, it seems that pingback responses vary a lot across web server configs, wp versions etc. some blogs. for example wordpress.com-hosted blogs give undocumented (or sometimes empty) responses, probably as an anti-spam measure. (after filtering out non-pingbackabble sites, I sent all pingbacks manually, just to look at responses)
spyked: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1776901 <-- neato! ftr, it seems that pingback responses vary a lot across web server configs, wp versions etc. some blogs. for example wordpress.com-hosted blogs give undocumented (or sometimes empty) responses, probably as an anti-spam measure. (after filtering out non-pingbackabble sites, I sent all pingbacks manually, just to look at responses) ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: in other lulz, the whois contact in 'armoredcoin' , seachoice@gmail.com , shows up in massive buncha spam domain regs
mircea_popescu: these are all distinct ips as at some point (maybe 2015 ish ?) i wiped dupes. but i get maaaybe 1 spam item in review queue per day
mircea_popescu: i have Spam (17,852)
hanbot: 10k marked spam comments means spammy ips are stored and attempted comments from same don't show up in admin, subjectively over time it's seemed i need to spend less time mopping shitcomments. and i didn't post proper patches, but will.
asciilifeform: how is spam list updated ?
mircea_popescu: one thing it does is <input type="text" name="author18c6e55" with that hash changing daily (or how often you please) ; another thing it does is a "refuse from ips in spam list" ; there's more i might nor recall right off.
asciilifeform: hanbot: what means '10k marked spam comments' ? and didja ever post your patches on mp-wp ?
hanbot: asciilifeform i'm using mp-wp on nfs and spam works pretty much as expected ---though having ~10k marked spam comments helps.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall how your spam filter works ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 15:50 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773051 << where did i say 'bw is free' or that i compare with spam vps ? trinque posted a heathendom figure of 700 ( trinque can answer when he wakes up , for what bw, i presume 100/100 ) for comparison.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773051 << where did i say 'bw is free' or that i compare with spam vps ? trinque posted a heathendom figure of 700 ( trinque can answer when he wakes up , for what bw, i presume 100/100 ) for comparison. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: !~later tell aegis wouldja stop with the join/part spam
Matthew: thank for allowing me to spam this podcast
mircea_popescu: it's been running trilema for almost a decade, 0 spam 0 issues.
mircea_popescu: the great age of the bb was cool because of the bang. for instance : Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!lll-winken!~~~~elroy.jpl.nasa.gov~~~!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!yoyo.aarnet.edu.au!sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au!spam!ross
ben_vulpes: is there a point to that sort of spam that i don't understand?
shinohai apologizes for the rate spam
asciilifeform shakes out last crumbs from spam trap, bolts it back into place
mircea_popescu: whereas the pantsuit psychotic cleaving, where ~some kinds~ of spam are spam (ostensibly because they came from russian hackers as per their bayesian filters ?) whereas some other kinds of spam magicaloly "aren't spam" somehow, because pravda said it, or some "transgender" schmuck said it, or whatever.
mircea_popescu: somehow the voice model makes spam such a rarity in #trilema, people actually have the mental vigour to evaluate it!
mircea_popescu: so on. because "it's spam" and that means "it shouldn't be read" and they actually have a consensus on this, which they idiotically but universally misrepresent as somehow different from any other cultish behaviour, such as believing "racism" or "global warming" or "witchcraft" are things.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 00:25 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758144 << comment stuck in spam queue?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758144 << comment stuck in spam queue? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 21:22 asciilifeform: evidently world's largest, fastest spam isp, whod'vethunkit!11, is banned even on fleanode.
asciilifeform: evidently world's largest, fastest spam isp, whod'vethunkit!11, is banned even on fleanode. ☟︎
shinohai: It's some sort of segwit spam floating around chans .... says "Stop using non-segwit wallets"
phf: i thought the spam was funny, because i want to his youtube channel and there was a bunch of very upset and confused people there. i thought it was an intentional, as they say, good show
danielpbarron: and for the record, (he claims) that he wasn't behind the spam. and has kline to back him up on that
asciilifeform: lol, for spam
mircea_popescu: there was a lot of spam pre block 500k.
asciilifeform: primo use of a good spam-ip farm
mats: lel, i tuned in a couple weeks ago after spam in another chan - weev was brought on and proceeded to rave about using btc to place shorts on papa johns stock
mircea_popescu: anyway, i had no fucking idea, back in 2010, what a big deal a random photograph of mailboix spam will become in not even a decade. but it IS a huge deal. consider -- that guy, who IS NOT the proponent, WROTE!!! by hand!!! ie just like http://trilema.com/2017/of-ducks-and-lameness/ !! so as to stuff my mailbox with xerocopies.
mircea_popescu: gotta replace teh viagra spam with something.
ben_vulpes: cruciform: webirc is going to piss everyone off with join/part spam
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the spam traps, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/Q6GK4/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/these-fools-have-been-handed-a-technology-so-clever-so-disruptive-and-revolutionary-that-the-rulers-of-the-world-would-have-to-fully-unmask-themselves-as-ruthless-tyrants-in-order-to-suppress-it/#comment-123721 << this stupid bitch, can be arsed to spam trilema by hand, can NOT be arsed to read anything. everyone, including the very last hopeless african in the throes of death by innanition imagines th
asciilifeform: meanwhile in asciilifeform's spam collector, ' Start live in Germany in only 15 days. In 2 months you will receive the Residence Permits. '
asciilifeform: it's a resurrection of circa-2014 embraceandextendism -- 'let's impose prbtronic sslistic payment-via-tcp, and at the same time spam some moar spamola, make blox less breathable'
asciilifeform: at some point i'ma plunder mpwp for useful patches again ( i lost steam when discovered that the spam filtrator cannot be made to work on my hoster )
ben_vulpes: could also be a "pound sand" replacement: "eh, filter spam"
ben_vulpes: "we don't have any real news!" "eh, let them filter spam."
mod6: Let them filter spam.
asciilifeform: 'The common notification from Facebook was that the post was under review to see if it breached the community standards. Other posts about the protests were suspected by Facebook of being spam.' << lol!!
asciilifeform: 'spam like a pro in 21 days'
mircea_popescu: apparently what, on the basis of this malfunctioning spam script they also don't have basic logic in romania now ?
shinohai: Jeez I almost don't want to have a news/rss feed open until this "I was raped" spam is over with.
concernedscaling: a cesspool of ideas and spam, just a tool for controlling people. The fighting about core vs bcash vs seg2x vs miners vs blahblah is entertaining. Sad that I need to take part to see how the market reacts
asciilifeform: notbad.spam
BingoBoingo: Peru's a no go. Only independent "datacenters" advertising as such there aren't in the colo business. They are in the Pinoy spam for Espanol speakers business
cazalla: reply to spam
ben_vulpes: christ, erlehmann wouldja quit it with the join/part spam
phf: a lulzy phishing attempt got through my spam filter http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Fr8gO/?raw=true
asciilifeform: contrary to popular belief, there is ~no moneys in the shitware biz. ( consider : spam makes ~0 ; ransomism trojan of global proportions ends up making a few dozen btc at best; what remains ? ...selling 'toolz' to ~penniless idjits ? )
a111: Logged on 2017-10-13 15:40 mircea_popescu: trinque one working model : all the nodes node 1 was connected to decided "it is spam", because they can do this now, so they didn't forward it but also didn't tell node 1. same did not hold for node 2.
mircea_popescu: trinque one working model : all the nodes node 1 was connected to decided "it is spam", because they can do this now, so they didn't forward it but also didn't tell node 1. same did not hold for node 2. ☟︎
shinohai: YOU ARE HEREBY BANNED FOR JOIN/PART SPAM. If yu wish to recconect plox 2 purchase bouncer from deedbot, thx.
mircea_popescu: let us rephrase then. "whereas the perception in silicon valley spam farms, like facebook, huffpo, reddit, wikipedia etc".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform spam filtered by hard is how filtering always works and worked.
mircea_popescu: i have not yet got spam pgpgram. 0.
asciilifeform: nigerian prince spam moar interesting.
mircea_popescu: r instead of Wanton Vandal. Canter boasted he'd spam again."
mircea_popescu: Americans to enter a very low-odds US-work-permit raffle. Jeff Wheelhouse, sysadmin for Internet Direct, was soon bombed into oblivion by world-wide complaints. He told the New York Times this caused Internet Direct computers to crash at least 15 times -- "that's when we stopped counting." Canter soon appeared on CNN's Sonya Live. Interestingly, spam was viewed as an innovation by Sonya, who hailed Canter as a Business Pionee
mircea_popescu: "The term "spam" came into broad use shortly after a famous incident on 12 April 1994. Canter and Siegel unleashed the first mega-spam against Usenet. (Cantor had done local, mini-spams before; he was now going international.) Canter spammed almost 6,000 groups in less than 90 minutes through an Internet Direct account (an Arizona Internet provider). The post was a C&S ad for the U.S. "Green Card lottery" -- a chance for non-
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 00:38 hanbot goes abroad for a week, neglects yahoo inbox (srsly), comes back to knee-deep ethereum spam (incloods both phishing and meta-phishing!)
a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 00:38 hanbot goes abroad for a week, neglects yahoo inbox (srsly), comes back to knee-deep ethereum spam (incloods both phishing and meta-phishing!)
hanbot goes abroad for a week, neglects yahoo inbox (srsly), comes back to knee-deep ethereum spam (incloods both phishing and meta-phishing!) ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: what do we do to people who spam it ? and most importantly, how ?