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mircea_popescu: there was a bar in new york where ~100 people died /year because people got drunk and starting shooting pistols at each other.
mod6: all of that, yet people are still 'maga' or whatever it is today
mod6: as if
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 10998.83, vol: 9330.86488949 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 10984.0, vol: 35700.96082875 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 11000.0, vol: 5683.54464019 | Volume-weighted last average: 10988.5215768
asciilifeform: ohai BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: rack ready ?
BingoBoingo: Getting close
asciilifeform: what's missing ?
BingoBoingo: Wire is expected to hit the datacenter account Monday. This weekend configuring and double checking the configuring of the switch and the musl Qntra
phf: "How Two, Bored, 1970's Housewives Helped Create the PC Industry www.fastcompany.com"
phf: "Important Women in CS Who Aren't Grace Hopper www.hillelwayne.com"
shinohai: https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/blockchain-company-buys-67000-acres-at-northern-nevada-industrial-park <<< New flaming-tire-in-shitpit factory?
shinohai: (Won't archive )
spyked: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1776901 <-- neato! ftr, it seems that pingback responses vary a lot across web server configs, wp versions etc. some blogs. for example wordpress.com-hosted blogs give undocumented (or sometimes empty) responses, probably as an anti-spam measure. (after filtering out non-pingbackabble sites, I sent all pingbacks manually, just to look at responses)☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 16:00 mircea_popescu: spyked all in.
jhvh1: spyked: The operation succeeded.
mod6: mornin'
shinohai: Heya mod6 .... afternoon! lol
mod6: i guess it is huh haha
mod6 worked hard yesterday, extra zzz's needed.
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic: Please let me know if you have any updates for your Advertised Republican Nodes to conclude the month of January.
shinohai: I have none besides advertised nodes I showed you yesterday.
mod6: oh from bitnodes?
shinohai: yeah.
mod6: Ah, ok.
diana_coman: spyked, fwiw, pingback arrived fine
mod6: hi diana_coman
diana_coman: hi mod6
mod6: how's eulora stuff these days?
diana_coman: re nodes: mine is still there but still not at the top; I even pressed and ran asciilifeform's patch but it's unclear to me if it helped tbh; I admit I did not have much time to really dig deeper there exactly
diana_coman: eulora is chugging along, atm focus is mainly on getting eucrypt done
mod6: *nod*
mod6: does your node use an SSD? mine doesn't and is @ 506042, and the net is @ 506402
mod6: heh, that moment where 'mimisbrunnr' is a block ahead of other blockchain sites...
mod6: so yeah, mine lags behind too because of sloooooow disk.
mod6: (and fwiw, im running the aggressive push blocks too, which should help. but too IO bound to matter with slow disk)
diana_coman: ah, that must be it then; no ssd :(
spyked: diana_coman, yeah, but your webserver is ultra-conservative on user agents. :) the one from http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773164 didn't work, so I faked one from an existing browser, which eventually did the trick. (nb for whoever wants to craft xml-rpc requests manually)☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 18:34 mircea_popescu: !~later tell spyked hey, does your tarpit not send pingbacks or is there some error ? what's the response if you say curl -v -A "Mozilla/5.0" -r 0-4096 --connect-timeout 30 --max-time 10 "http://www.dianacoman.com/xmlrpc.php" --header "Content-Type: text/xml" --data "<?xmlversion="1.0"?><methodCall><methodName>pingback.ping</methodName><params><param><value><string>http://trilema.com/2017/re-reading-is-the-most-powerful-tool/
diana_coman: hm, what was the error you got on that one that didn't work?
spyked: diana_coman: here's the output: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Nlokl/?raw=true and the script I used http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/z0nep/?raw=true it would seem ngnix expects user agents to meet a particular spec (that I haven't figured out exactly) before delivering pages
spyked: (and it's not obvious from the error message either; but it's possible that there's a bit more info in the server logs)
diana_coman: spyked, thanks; looks familiar even so one of these days I'll have to get around to look at it and shoot it in the head
diana_coman: fwiw it looks like some mod_security mess
spyked took a look through how mod_security does user agent-based filtering and stumbled upon http://archive.is/ELI4u#selection-1478.0-1518.2 lulz; no idea how a programmatically-generated string can be botched up just like that.
shinohai: LUL
hanbot:
ben_vulpes: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 11551.14, vol: 10348.41527763 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 11570.0, vol: 34357.10597093 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 11529.1, vol: 5932.07693913 | Volume-weighted last average: 11561.3543874
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-27#1777388 << at the risk of repeating -- mechanical hdd is ~useless for trb work☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-27 20:10 diana_coman: ah, that must be it then; no ssd :(
asciilifeform: it sorta, possibly, worx, when in striped-raid; and worked ok prior to fullblox era
asciilifeform: but today -- nope.
asciilifeform: a mechanical-hdd node is possibly even worse than none. causes chronic frustration for its owner and anybody who tries to sync from it
asciilifeform: really a kind of tarpit.
asciilifeform: potentially they could work at something like normal speed, with something like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776380 . but that's not a Troo Adult Noad☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 19:29 asciilifeform: btw i'll mention again a simple method to speed up sync (to a point) 1,000x or moar -- signed hashes ( a la the programmable checkpoint thread from 2yrs ago )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-27#1777381 << i was thinking, the '% of wallclock time spent waiting for blockverifier' , '% of wallclock time spent waiting for newblock' stats really oughta be part of standard 'getinfo' output☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-27 20:02 diana_coman: re nodes: mine is still there but still not at the top; I even pressed and ran asciilifeform's patch but it's unclear to me if it helped tbh; I admit I did not have much time to really dig deeper there exactly
asciilifeform: mod6 et al ^
asciilifeform: it will readily reveal the cause of a 'behind' node
asciilifeform: though i will point out, for completeness, that i saw NO substantial 'behinditude' on zoolag since feeding it the pill against shitoshi's sync retardation.
asciilifeform: i had the above stats patch on the conveyor, but abandoned when saw that there is no mystery anymoar for it to resolve..
ben_vulpes: works just fine with striped raid
mod6: not a bad idea asciilifeform
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: plox to quantify 'just fine'
asciilifeform: dulap-II had a serious striped-raid ; still took 5x as long to verify same block as fist-sized, raidless ssd zoolag.
asciilifeform: the latter having ~1/32th the cpu horse of the former.
ben_vulpes: obviously is going to be slow, but mimi has zero trouble keeping up with the tip-o-the-chain since applying your patch
phf: striped raid might solve write speed issue, but not seek time issue
asciilifeform: phf: actually opposite
asciilifeform: thinkaboutit
phf: err, actually scratch the whole thing
asciilifeform: well actually it'd be : ~read~ seek-time is shortened on striped-raid; write-seek -- slightly increased ; absolute contiguous speed of r/w -- unchanged
phf: what i meant to say was read speed issue, but not seek time issue, but i'm thinking that seek time ~might~ improve because of parallelizable seeking
asciilifeform: ( exercise for the reader, to see why )
asciilifeform: ( in 'striping' , the platters turn deliberately out of phase )
ben_vulpes: mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ImgDW/?raw=true
mod6 looks
ben_vulpes zoidbergs
mod6: ben_vulpes: got it
asciilifeform polishing off ch9. which will contain, among other things, The Seekrit Of all-iron guaranteed-constanttime mul , with only ~8% penalty over iron mul.
asciilifeform: which afaik has never been published anywhere.
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, I present to you a pre-patched *EXPERIMENTAL* version of my vtron (99993), along with a patch to show changes from V (99994): http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-January/000287.html
asciilifeform: oh hey hey hey lbj !
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-27#1777365 <<->> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774078☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-27 17:29 spyked: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-26#1776901 <-- neato! ftr, it seems that pingback responses vary a lot across web server configs, wp versions etc. some blogs. for example wordpress.com-hosted blogs give undocumented (or sometimes empty) responses, probably as an anti-spam measure. (after filtering out non-pingbackabble sites, I sent all pingbacks manually, just to look at responses)
a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 14:55 asciilifeform: the only actual standard in whole fucking machine is the mains cord.
asciilifeform: this is pretty great, mod6 , i'ma test it this wk
mircea_popescu: jauysus
mod6: The formal release version is planned of course. Thanks for paitence, and help to get this vtron in proper working order.
mod6: asciilifeform: ch9, cool! I'm pretty excited to dive in.
asciilifeform: mod6: out of curiosity, where are you in it
mod6: lol, i've not "formally" started it. I have however, looked through most of 1, 2, 3, and 4. Did the homework for ffa_calc. But again, not enough to say "I've done it. Lemme sign."
mod6: So I'm gonna circle back around, do it all; start to finish.
asciilifeform: mod6: do not hurry to sign. intention is, to slowly eat it, and sign when it begins to seem as if 'wrote yourself'
mod6: *nod* makes sense.
mod6: I gotta get this mission critical stuff with vtron out of the way. Then should be undertaking myself.
asciilifeform: imagine year is 1985 and you hammered it in from a magazine page...
mod6: :]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-27#1777409 << a properly rewritten trb-blockchain would actually work ok on plated disks.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-27 22:16 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-27#1777381 << i was thinking, the '% of wallclock time spent waiting for blockverifier' , '% of wallclock time spent waiting for newblock' stats really oughta be part of standard 'getinfo' output
mod6: keep up the good work asciilifeform
asciilifeform: ( sometimes i wish that i could convince people to ~actually do this~, lol )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it would, i already established it in my torture room
asciilifeform: ( the one with the O(1) indexer and the 'nursery' last-few-hundred-blox holder , as discussed last yr )
asciilifeform: the latter lives in ram
mircea_popescu: yeah, not contentious.
mircea_popescu: but it;s not that machine is useless "for trb work". current trb is useless for machine work.
mircea_popescu: ie, a toy item rather than production ready.
asciilifeform: it ain't retrofittable to trb imho, however. too many inoperable tumours in trb.
mircea_popescu: trb is whatever the foundation releases.
mircea_popescu: just like eulora etc.
asciilifeform: in that sense worxgreat, sure.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-27#1777455 << great exercise, actually. type in each chapter's version of ffa☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-27 22:54 asciilifeform: ( sometimes i wish that i could convince people to ~actually do this~, lol )
asciilifeform: aha, it ain't so big
mod6: it's a bit deep to walk in alf's big footprints through the adventure.
mod6: :]
mod6: the adventure is worth it though.
asciilifeform: oh hey is that mircea_popescu's new kitten
mod6: emmylark: no offence intended with my comments a few days ago. was just having some fun with unknown n00bs.
emmylark: Hello everyone. There was no offense taken.
trinque caught the rick and morty reference
mod6: Good deal. :] Nice to meet 'ya.
mod6: trinque is on point
emmylark: It is a pleasure indeed.
emmylark: I was wondering if I might make a request?
mod6: request away.
emmylark: So those numbers, for my tits? May I have some more of them? One from anyone willing to entertain me?
mircea_popescu: ahaha check her out, going public already.
mod6: S.TITS
mircea_popescu: i give numbers out, slut.
emmylark: Apologies, sir.
emmylark: May I please have some more numbers? Like the ones for my tits?
mircea_popescu: what are you up to ?
emmylark: Nothing sir. I just want some numbers.
mircea_popescu: i r suspek. but, hey, why not.
emmylark: Thank you sir.
mircea_popescu: 3abfa6e2 c77a3015 f54c10bd 28bcf278 e95353d4 611d180c 4615295d 690c7bd4 54f68227 e27d2955 66797b99 ccb93f79 ef0a26f7 2726742b cdbaeded 08cf1ce6
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently the martian titbank happens before the martian moneybank.
mircea_popescu: see, girls outrank boys in innovation implementations!
asciilifeform: nooseateleven
mod6: haha
mod6: ok DC said they'll throw in an SSD for me. so that's awesome. hopefully that'll get my node caught up and stay caught up.
mircea_popescu: hanbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/6MNac/?raw=true
hanbot: tyvm
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/it-came-out/ << Trilema - It came out!
asciilifeform: oh hey congrats mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually had 1 of these as homework in american school, 3rdgrade
asciilifeform: everybody got jars, 1 caterpillar ea.
asciilifeform: they used to migrate as far north as here. ( perhaps still do ? somewhere )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This summer there were a few in my garden
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually had 1 of these as homework in american school, 3rdgrade << yah, same.
mod6: neat-o mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: i suspect this is slightyl different, iirc northerner monarch chrisalis looks more like a turd
asciilifeform: iirc it looked exactly like mircea_popescu's
asciilifeform: greenish, ~acorn-shaped
mircea_popescu: gold sparks and everything ?
asciilifeform: aha
mircea_popescu: i still have nfi how they do those. is it what, copper ?
asciilifeform: it's been a quarter century, can't recall how much gold speck...
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is suggesting new peaks of luxury. they spend ~half hour waiting for their wings to dry / batting them slowly. if you get a few dozen coordinated chrysalises you could have quite the grandiose dinner table.
mircea_popescu: pin them on naked sluts piece montee in the middle of table.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> gold sparks and everything ? << ya, mine too.
mircea_popescu: awesome.
asciilifeform: i recall the wing-drying specifically.
asciilifeform: iirc they dun reliably sync, however, >day of variance b/w various pupils' hatchings
mircea_popescu: it was quite visible inside towards the end
asciilifeform: maybe if all the jars were in a proper incubator, with thermo/hygro-stat
mircea_popescu: i bet there's something you can measure to time them