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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you fail to maintain a steel structure for long enough, it will rust in weak spots and bend under own weight.
asciilifeform: oughta be inwards tho
asciilifeform: rather than out
mircea_popescu: no tornado needed.
mircea_popescu: this is always a disputable point.
asciilifeform: i can picture how it might, tho
mircea_popescu: which is why the whole "that's not how towers fall" experts are so laughable. bitch...
mircea_popescu: if we could say how shit fails we'd be way ahead in the game. problem with failing shit is that it fails as it wants to fail.
mircea_popescu: when it fails as you want it to fail it's called "working".
asciilifeform: other typical items : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_mansion.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_mansion_2.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_factory.jpg
asciilifeform: ( that last previously in thread http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728629 )☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-25 16:55 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 45°45'39.1"N 21°15'25.0"E
asciilifeform: incidentally an item like 'sad mansion 2' is quite unthinkable in usa : it STILL HAS GLASS !!
mircea_popescu: ah, those are gypsy mansions
mircea_popescu: the guys start building them, then the money runs out.
mircea_popescu: very persian empire cca 917 ad lifestyle.
asciilifeform: #2 i immediately suspected
asciilifeform: but how about the first
asciilifeform: it definitely looked pre-commie
mircea_popescu: yup.
mircea_popescu: nah. was built 2005ish.
asciilifeform: with brick arches?!
mircea_popescu: and they're all inhabited, the herd lives in the basement usually.
mircea_popescu: if you look, the brick is just cut to a concrete arch. faux.
asciilifeform: Uzinele Mecanice Timișoara was definitely inhabited.
asciilifeform: hm interesting.
asciilifeform: http://www.romania-actualitati.ro/files/timisoara-1989-tata-noi-suntem-copii-ce-sa-ne-faca-noua-18342909.jpg << related lulz
asciilifeform: gotta wonder if the derps suspected that it would turn into http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_umt1.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_umt2.jpg
asciilifeform: bonus archaeology : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_umt_b00kz_1.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_umt_b00kz_2.jpg
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that the corp nominally still exists : http://www.umt.ro , makes bmw gearboxes or what was it, in some back corner of the massive campus full of ???.
asciilifeform: but linked because there were quite definitely ~somebody~ living in there. ( did not look like what i expect of bums, however. looked like people, of sorts. )
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/mafioso/ << Trilema - Mafioso
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743505 >> err, eggog, http://www.umt.ro/Acasa.html☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 00:21 asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that the corp nominally still exists : http://www.umt.ro , makes bmw gearboxes or what was it, in some back corner of the massive campus full of ???.
mircea_popescu: aaand in other news, bitcoin getting close to 10k means that the http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ offer stands at just about $200 worth for a half hour's work if that. nevertheless, something to the tune of four billion females the world over perceive, entirely hallucinatorily, that they have the option to eschew this.
mircea_popescu: not to mention the hordes of "digital artists" who hallucinate the ridoinculous notion that they have the option to not work for minigame.
mircea_popescu: all these idiots will be whining -- plenty of them are already whining -- about "unfairness" and "wealth distribution". the part where it's the just desserts for their own mendacity conveniently omitted.
mircea_popescu: somehow if the usg website comes up with "it's illegal to smoke", they stop smoking, AS FUCKING IF. whereas when the republic orders, they "have options".
mircea_popescu: somehow nobody manages to feel even vaguely responsible for all the gains they DIDN'T realize ; much like that famous anon whore, "let me tell you what i want in exchange for what i'm willing to do" cuz it's like poorocracy over here or something now.
trinque: relatedly, after last weeekend's work, I can actually write up how said anontits can receive their btc via deedbot. had to make it such that deedbot can pass over a new acct, but reliance on deedbot ends there for key to wallet mapping.
trinque: in the absence of gossipd, using ssh with $user<->$specificCommand between nodes
mircea_popescu: aha!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743510 << betcha mircea_popescu would conclusively barf long before a thousand, much less 4b, were to show up, with their inevitable and loathesome moan 'unfair! virii stole me coinz', 'my gox stole!' and similar leprosies☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 03:38 mircea_popescu: aaand in other news, bitcoin getting close to 10k means that the http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ offer stands at just about $200 worth for a half hour's work if that. nevertheless, something to the tune of four billion females the world over perceive, entirely hallucinatorily, that they have the option to eschew this.
asciilifeform: turne out, even most supposedly-literate folx dun have what it takes to properly operate own btctron.
asciilifeform: ( i for instance have some approximate notion of how many people have an actual rng. the number is not large. )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743514 << the 4 possible types of people : a) those who had nfi wtf btc is and still have nfi b) those who bought btc by the trainload at <= 5bux c) who did not, and have no hallucinated defense mechanism in their head d) who did not, and have one☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 03:40 mircea_popescu: somehow nobody manages to feel even vaguely responsible for all the gains they DIDN'T realize ; much like that famous anon whore, "let me tell you what i want in exchange for what i'm willing to do" cuz it's like poorocracy over here or something now.
asciilifeform: members of group 'c' presumably have already eaten their pistols. whereas members of groups 'a' and 'b' aren't particularly talkative. ergo the most regularly met with type, is 'd'.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i really wouldn't gas.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743512 << gotta wonder what those phrases are plebespeak code for, in actuality. 'i dun have the things the tv people have' ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 03:39 mircea_popescu: all these idiots will be whining -- plenty of them are already whining -- about "unfairness" and "wealth distribution". the part where it's the just desserts for their own mendacity conveniently omitted.
mircea_popescu: evidently.
mircea_popescu: do you know there is not.one.single.shop selling pure natural fiber shirts in all of costa rica ?
mircea_popescu: i'm like "silk" dude recognizes the word, it's like i went to fish shop in 1980. "oh, THAT is what we don't have here!!! i know what it is! it's the thing this shop doesn'thave!"
asciilifeform: unsurprising , turd world (incl usa) all walks in those same chinese synthetic shirts
mircea_popescu: linen ? "linen can't be used for textiles because it frays" "your mom also frays. how about cotton ?"
mircea_popescu: "o, sure, we got that!" dood comes back, 65% polyester, 35% cotton.
mircea_popescu: this... is... polyester!
mircea_popescu: oh. well pure cotton can't be used for clothing!!! bitch... this shirt on me, see it ? this is 100% cotton!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't understand how http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-23#1742437 works.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 15:20 diana_coman: ahahaha "like mircea popescu or whatever his name is, but even with him i suspect he's not anywhere near as rich as he wants people to think he is - it doesn't add up; poorly fitted suits, average looking hotel suites/condos, spends all his time living in cheap shitholes which is precisely what white people who have money to live abroad but aren't rich do)" ; from ^^
mircea_popescu: they have BRAND NAME cheap polyester chinese shirts. thereby... VEHEMENT OPULENCE.
asciilifeform: aha same as in usa
asciilifeform: i suspect cr is in the event horizon of the unspeakable beast.
mircea_popescu: sort-of the sicily of rome. by 2500 they'll still have the most period-accurate pantsuit worn on the streets
asciilifeform: from mircea_popescu's tales, it has roughly similar absent-fishes-at-the-fishmonger.
mircea_popescu: much like sicilian dialect to this day puts the verb in last place, "siciliano sono"
asciilifeform: recall the cr food thread ? the very presence of the usa expats, i suspect makes various nice things scarce
mircea_popescu: us expats are to the last man poor fucks. their impact is ~0, you should see how happy 60yo is to have the attention of 19yo nicaraguan
asciilifeform: they won't buy sprats, or cotton shirts, why would apeman give a shit re of what is the shirt
mircea_popescu: no, the problem is the unhappy meeting of a deeply rural population with the chinese empire.
asciilifeform: apparently collectively >0 ?
mircea_popescu: i doubt it.
mircea_popescu: most of the cr tourism receipts are euros brought by zee germans, followed by euros brought by the azns (who, weirdly, tend to use euros more than dollars).
asciilifeform: tourists dun typically buy groceries afaik
mircea_popescu: cr regularily has a major euro excedent and dollar deficit (as it imports cars and shit from mexico for usd)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "expats" are generally dorks come here a week-two at a time for the hookers.
mircea_popescu: generally, retired old men on measly budgets.
asciilifeform: hm i pictured 'brass pole in bangkok' old fart perma-exiles
mircea_popescu: not generally.
asciilifeform: interesting
mircea_popescu: of the people who genuinely live here and bear us passports, the majority is the us embassy residentura.
asciilifeform: so take that casino d00d -- rly, he's going back north ? why would he do that..?
mircea_popescu: ie a coupla dozen dorks.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cuz it's expensive to be here ?
asciilifeform: i thought whole point for him, was the cheap ?
mircea_popescu: the cheap ~whores~.
mircea_popescu: girl here can be had for a hundy a night, and she'll be pliant. he can't get what he's looking for in the us, at any price ; nor can he really afford the 2-3k a night top shelf (ie, teens, tall, nice figure, good manners etc)
asciilifeform: but other items, expensive ? what's a modest flat cost ?
mircea_popescu: bout the same as in the us.
mircea_popescu: not miami-us, but wisconsin-us.
asciilifeform: so why wisconsin not empty of its pensioners yet
mircea_popescu: same reason i don't have a 4 byte index of 4bn tits.
asciilifeform: yea gotta be. same reason ro ain't filling up
mircea_popescu: girls slightly more expensive there
mircea_popescu: though not on a per foot basis.
asciilifeform: save on square metrage; spend on gurlz
mircea_popescu: per foot of height i meant.
asciilifeform: lol bought like cable ?
asciilifeform: 'i'll take six meterz plox'
mircea_popescu: well if your distance's 5"8 what can you do with a coupla 3"6s ?
asciilifeform: 0
asciilifeform: but where outside of pygmystan are they 3"6
mircea_popescu: here
asciilifeform: nuts
mircea_popescu: great tits, great asses, as tall as your dick altogether.
asciilifeform: i get the impression that mircea_popescu ended up in more of a 'martian colony' position than he'd like -- stuck importing literally all of the necessities of life
mircea_popescu: honestly, when it comes to females imports are always preferable. if you can make do with what the soil provides you should probably increase your standards.
mircea_popescu: if you run a farm you can just lasso the local cowsies, but if you run a IC plant you prolly have to attract foreigners.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the things that don't have to be imported (colonials : chocolate, coffee, fresh fruit of land and sea etc) are much preferable. whore suffers naught for a 10 hour trip in the plane ; tuna quite does.
asciilifeform: i can picture.
asciilifeform: usa is an astonishing pit, banana republic with 0 bananas
mircea_popescu: whereas here can stop car on roadside
asciilifeform: at least down south : bananas.
mircea_popescu: and cut your own
asciilifeform: aha.
mircea_popescu: in other news, toto u curtu croaked last week.
mircea_popescu: easily most accomplished troll of the 90s, gave the (mostly italian speaking) redditards hives.
asciilifeform: can haz link to example ?
mircea_popescu: example what ?
asciilifeform never seen
mircea_popescu: !~google falcone bombing
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Giovanni Falcone - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Falcone>; Capaci bombing - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capaci_bombing>; Mafia's murder of Giovanni Falcone : Duty, danger and courage ...: <https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DFXZzCQ4_6hA>
asciilifeform: the troll ?
mircea_popescu: !~google toto riina
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Salvatore Riina - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore_Riina>; 'He killed all his rivals': Totò Riina , Sicilian mafia's 'boss of bosses ...: <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/17/toto-riina-sicilian-mafia-boss-of-bosses-dies-cosa-nostra-italy>; Toto Riina , Mafia 'boss of bosses', dies in jail aged 87 - BBC News: <http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42022142
asciilifeform: aaa
asciilifeform: 'was serving 26 life sentences' << lel
mircea_popescu: was also "on the run" for 23 years while living at home and getting public health subsidies.
mircea_popescu: was the lulziest moment, at "trial" when wediditreddit discovered that.. .well...
asciilifeform: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42141943 << from same rag, 'Danish court extends girl's jail sentence for terror plot'
mircea_popescu: check that out.
BingoBoingo: Oh my
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=9618
mircea_popescu: instead of all this focus on how to x without money
mircea_popescu: HOW ABOUT MAKING SOME FUCKING MONEY.
BingoBoingo: Well, what was middle tramp doing?
BingoBoingo: Middle tramp was doing what the redditots will be doing in their 40's
asciilifeform: where's a hobo, incidentally, to keep money? up his arse ?
BingoBoingo: AHA, the prison wallet
asciilifeform: i suspect that the last jailbird whose starfish wasn't regularly inspected, was herr goring
asciilifeform: hobo will regularly lose his worldly goodz, but nobody can take his 'knowing how to x without money', i suspect is the idea.
BingoBoingo: Nah, probably gotta go further back in history
asciilifeform: and yes he could go and make money but then risks ending up as a programmer and whining about shitty kvms and no moar wall to hang lcd etc
BingoBoingo: To HNNNGNUNG the proto-startfish 3.5 billion years ago, arrested for being delicious
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: back to mr hobo, asciilifeform wonders how much of the peculiar landscape of poorfaggistan is made up of the fact that in many ways to have ~a little~ money is worse than to habitually have none at all
asciilifeform bbl,bed
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh, even ru peasant knew enough of how world works to bury.
mircea_popescu: modern hobo is not intellectually qualified to live in 1600s. because if he did, he'd have had to be pirate.
mircea_popescu: in other "run moar js/webkit" lulz, https://www.jitbit.com/alexblog/256-targetblank---the-most-underestimated-vulnerability-ever/
BingoBoingo: lol
BingoBoingo: Ah, Trilema reread on attention whore culture of the hour http://trilema.com/2013/rape-is-fun-or-lets-fuck-up-adria-richards/
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743529 <- I suspect they don't afford it basically; and related, from the world that once (long time ago) was: http://www.dianacoman.com/blog/2017/06/26/democratie-cu-pantaloni-fara-pantaloni-mai-mult-fara/☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 04:19 mircea_popescu: do you know there is not.one.single.shop selling pure natural fiber shirts in all of costa rica ?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman exactly true, they don't.
mircea_popescu: the part where they thing ~this is okay~ though, is the problem. peasant of today, polyester, peasant of 1800, linen, then when usg says "progress" they all stand up and clap like trained seals.
mircea_popescu: exactly a rehash of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743513 which is itself exactly a rehash of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-29#1531002 and of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-18#1569609 and of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523091 and so on.☝︎☝︎☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 03:39 mircea_popescu: somehow if the usg website comes up with "it's illegal to smoke", they stop smoking, AS FUCKING IF. whereas when the republic orders, they "have options".
a111: Logged on 2016-08-29 13:16 mircea_popescu: take the general "entrepreneur", take paul biggar as a much better example. the kid is definitely intelligent. he wants to be an entrepreneur. which is a word, which has a meaning. he proceeds to usianize. this FAILS TO DELIVER, but a decade later he is STILL doing it. and apparently hasn't noticed ANYTHING about any of this. why not ?
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 12:53 mircea_popescu: jurov the problem is one of optics. you have not "seen paying" anyone for .achristianfamily either, but you credit the empire and discredit the republic for reasons we're invited to not misrepresent as misplaced loyalties, i guess. similarly with electrum - yes, for as long as you stick to the credit empire discredit republic mindset, it "enables" you.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 16:13 mircea_popescu: when $empire$ does it, let it irk you ; when $republic$ does it, let you not notice.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of which, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743518 prolly needs to be addressed better than the original "i wouldn't give a shit" : i'm ready to take over the governance of the entire world from the hands of the inept pretenders of today, as of yesterday. the result would be very ~different~, yes, but that's irrelevant.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 04:01 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743510 << betcha mircea_popescu would conclusively barf long before a thousand, much less 4b, were to show up, with their inevitable and loathesome moan 'unfair! virii stole me coinz', 'my gox stole!' and similar leprosies
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 9860.0, vol: 9604.09387645 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 9820.0, vol: 45529.0680051 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 9768.5, vol: 2573.68892591 | Volume-weighted last average: 9824.36029296
mircea_popescu: dun dun DUN!
BingoBoingo: Ny how the OMG Crashing tickles
BingoBoingo: *My
mircea_popescu: recall when usg got all butthurt over its bch failure and was going to crash bitcoin nao ?
BingoBoingo: AHA, this weekend. Crashing very well
mircea_popescu: to quote some anon dork, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-26#1743126☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-26 03:19 mircea_popescu: and in other "we are the asswipes, we programatically cut the very branch we sit on" lulz, "we did not choose the "new rothchilds" nor do we want them. if bitcoin cash is a means to stop these people then it appears that the votes are being cast as we speak. if bitcoin cash is just another version of the "new rothchilds" then the votes will be cast for the next usurper. there will always be an underdog".
mircea_popescu: THERE WILL ALWAYS BE AN UNDERDOG!!!
mircea_popescu: usg will survive as provider of toilet paper!!!
mircea_popescu: #NotDeadYet
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, peasants of 1800 did not have the option of plastic or they'd have taken it just the same; that being said I still recall the communist-ro going precisely that route e.g. have now this here wonderful soya-oil just as good as the "true thing" which supposedly was... sunflower oil because nobody was supposed to even remember olive oil
mircea_popescu: diana_coman do you recall the communist era crocs ?
diana_coman: crocs?
mircea_popescu: they had these whole-plastic sandals for little girls. which poor girls wore, and which were an insta-ban from mp's circles.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman lemme see if i can fish a pic somehiw
diana_coman: ugh, I thought those were modern day idiocy
mircea_popescu: nah, 100% injected plastic sandals for little girls. well boys too i guess, if they were faggots.
diana_coman: I remember plain and honest mud-country "gumari" and I still hated them, lol
mircea_popescu: rubberized wellingtons make sense. not as leisurewear, but legit work garb.
diana_coman: yes, exactly; tbh I hated the *mud* that made them a necessity, myeah
mircea_popescu: so you have no recollection of this item ? i could fucking draw it. came in absurd colors too, like plastic-purple or plastic-orange
mircea_popescu: you could tell the composition by the palette it supported.
diana_coman: no, I don't; we always had leather shoes/sandals and I suppose I did not really notice much what others had for shoes
diana_coman: at the time
diana_coman: somehow not-leather meant not-shoe; and tbh romania really was good at making leather shoes so dunno
mircea_popescu: the problem with unsystematic preservation -- teh internets dun seem to contain.
mircea_popescu: yep. but ppl wore them.
diana_coman: I don't doubt it; precisely my point above: they will go for whatever is cheapest available regardless of anything else
mircea_popescu: http://adevarul.ro/assets/adevarul.ro/MRImage/2013/05/15/5193daf3053c7dd83f9f898d/646x404.jpg random ancient lolz
diana_coman: rather: for cheapest available that still retains the *form* of what it's supposed to be, at least to some degree; otherwise they could go barefoot one would think
mircea_popescu: consider what the (immensely popular at the time) item says : "la tarani le-a luat pamintul, la studenti le-a luat cuvintul, la soferi le-a luat benzina, la prosti le facea cu mina". ie, the peasants HAD land. how ? when ? without the fucking communists the usg-alligned maniu, bratianu & friends would be STILL dithering over minor land distributions. exactly like the usgstan does.
mircea_popescu: students had the speech ? in the sense of what everloving shit, like reddit and wikipedia, that's what's contemplated here, ceausescu prevented the idiots from running r/btc as they wanted to ?
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, hm; my great grandfather settled in Baragan on land that *his* father bought specifically for his sons;and the land was not 500m garden hut included either
mircea_popescu: in 1940 romania "had" gasoline in the sense whore has money : as a temporary conveyance, between the time punter gives it to her to take to the pimp and the time pimp gets it. in 1980 http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737815 and yet... ceausescu TOOK the driver's gasoline ? which they naturally had, somehow, as their birthright ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 17:03 mircea_popescu: and then in spite of "political control" ie "containment policy" romania operated it's OWN gulf concessions with its own machinery and shipped the oil on its own boats made in its own factories.
diana_coman: then he lost all the animals "colectivizare"
mircea_popescu: jezuz god i hate romanians.
diana_coman: and the farm land pretty much same way
mircea_popescu: diana_coman yes, pre-communism romania had private land ownership, resulting in "tarani" as the genertal noun not having any land.
diana_coman: he considered himself peasant, waht
mircea_popescu: i suppose the criticism is that "he reduced land diffusion, in that changed a situation where 10% owned some land to a situation where 0% owned some land"
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the question is what the other peasants considered him, it's an exonym.
diana_coman: on the other side, grandfather ran away from land basically because he hated it
mircea_popescu: the mud ?
diana_coman: the "idiotic work" and "fucking potato soup"
diana_coman: his words, I heard them lots
mircea_popescu: so what, he went to north pole, lived off polar bear ?
diana_coman: nope, he went away as young lad with pretty much whatever he could find; he tried them all from religious missionaries/sects/whatevers to singing; in the end he settled in town and worked as a worker in a factory, saved, bought some land, built the house *with his own hands* etc
mircea_popescu: poor rural modern (and i guess postmodern) societies will eat potato, it's exactly a "cheapest available" item as per above.
diana_coman: well yes, funnily enough his family was certainly poorer than those on the other side, yes; still, he actually made more for himself overall
mircea_popescu: an interesting application of http://trilema.com/2013/the-dead-jew-and-the-raped-girl/ i guess! guy came up with the correct strategy, and tried to implement.
mircea_popescu: failed because, obviously, guy.
diana_coman: and ftr he always kept a perfectly well-worked garden ; at some point he even sold his produce in the market
diana_coman: so it wasn't either work or mud that he ran away from; it really was as he stated it the idiocy
mircea_popescu: i never quite understood why gardening is universally popular.
diana_coman: to his mind the land was wasted otherwise, waht
diana_coman: yes, there were trees too, grapes, place to eat outside etc; but still!
mircea_popescu: yes but field work, such as wheat, is very amenable to mecanization. gardening, barely if at all. if you hate the idiocy of mother nature (which i fuklly understand, caragiale's "da, duioasa mama ce-i drept... trebuie numa' s-o bati sa-i singerezi sinul pina sa se-ndure sa-ti dea o picatura de lapte..." is a great understatement, there's nothing more loatefuly and despicable than "mother" nature) you'd expect you'd prefer its
mircea_popescu: vulnerable parts.
diana_coman: eh, what mecanization at that time and place
mircea_popescu: (because yes, that's the competitive explanation of "idiocy" such as say http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-17#1740001 : people genuinely, and literally, and most absolutely HATE nature. and for good cause and perfectly defensible reasons)☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 04:03 mircea_popescu: ie, nobody will ever say "mad cow disease exists because usda introduced mandatory milk pasteurization in 1933 taking advantage of the 'overproduction' of milk the usg generated artificially through fucking the currency"
diana_coman: I don't think he realised/understood/perceived the option or he'd have gone for it as far as I can tell otherwise
mircea_popescu: diana_coman they had it ; leaving aside the "check out us/canada machinery cca 1920", they had it in romania. http://trilema.com/2011/romanii-sunt-cam-fraieri/ printed item had advertisements on other side.
mircea_popescu: you can't go through any printed publication pre 1930 without running into at least an advertisement for used steam powered farm machinery as well as for new gasoline stuff.
diana_coman: he was born in 1920; fwiw even now in villages I still see them manually doing the work, what can I say
diana_coman: I'm sure there were machines at that time, yes
diana_coman: my point was there were none in his village/that he had a chance to even see at work /as an option before screwing it all and leaving rather than anything else
mircea_popescu: (the subtler point being that look, romanians not even capable of administering their own beerhall, what farm machinery)
diana_coman: that I have ample and repeated proof of, absolutely
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i suspect this goes right to babbage's point. to paraphrase, "i prefer living in america because when i explain something the british idiots dedicate themselves to rpoving to me orally how it couldn't work while the yanks are strictly focused on how it could be sold)
mircea_popescu: there are inept places full of self-important idiots (imparati in ancient trilema lingo) where defection is the only available strategy.
diana_coman: quite how I see it, yes
mircea_popescu: this eternal duality "but what proof do you have ? and what proof do you have that your proof is proofing ???" vs "ok, so what do i do".
mircea_popescu: and turn it as i might, i can't separate the former from the hallucination of self-determination. rural "king of the world" in decayed to death sicily, dying british empire, romania throughout and recently the us cultural space imagines himself... in a position to... MAKE DECISIONS!!! has options! may at his leisure obey republic or not. and so on.
mircea_popescu: discussions of "rape" in the public space today, as discussions of "unfairness" in the same public space a century ago are then all meaningless in the direct, simple manifestations of a doomed culture. "oh noes, our precious imaginary superiority was insulted by reality, there's a hole in the matrix through which you can perceive you AREN'T the single playing character in a WoWoW".
diana_coman: you know, this "fairness" thing doesn't stand 10 minutes face with reality even through a child's eyes; if only s/he doesn't try with all might to not look or something
mircea_popescu: depends how old.
mircea_popescu: prepubescent kid, right you are. but then with puberty the problems begin.
mircea_popescu: socialism is naught else but a condensed 13yo, or at least all its anxieties and miscomprehensions, distilled into ideological form.
mircea_popescu: and for teh rotaku club : mp three months before discovering bitcoin, explaining why and wherefore it;s needed. http://trilema.com/2011/izvoarele-moralei/
asciilifeform: oh neato
asciilifeform reads..
asciilifeform: meanwhile in heathendom, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-22#1742144 << >> https://archive.is/LHmQD☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-22 18:05 asciilifeform: in other noose, sci-hub.cc dun resolve nomoar.
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: and STILL will not speak of how optional dns is.
mircea_popescu: o look, it's in there, some "professor of publishing".
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743671 << lol, 'hi-fi tomatoes and cucumbers' ?!☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 13:19 mircea_popescu: http://adevarul.ro/assets/adevarul.ro/MRImage/2013/05/15/5193daf3053c7dd83f9f898d/646x404.jpg random ancient lolz
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: "pioneer the japanese corp is now growing tomatoes"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743639 << ? >> http://btcbase.org/log/2014-06-02#699078☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 12:58 mircea_popescu: and speaking of which, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743518 prolly needs to be addressed better than the original "i wouldn't give a shit" : i'm ready to take over the governance of the entire world from the hands of the inept pretenders of today, as of yesterday. the result would be very ~different~, yes, but that's irrelevant.
a111: Logged on 2014-06-02 18:30 mircea_popescu: Up until recently it was practically impossible to become embroiled into any sort of dealing with the subgroup, their ownership being strictly assumed and their lives strictly subsumed by the corporations competent at dealing with the human cattle : fastfood providers, supermarkets, the government. Both as employers and providers these specialised bureaucracies have the necessary tools, including cattle prods (or what
asciilifeform: ( wouljda really want to herd cattle all day, every day, mircea_popescu ? )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743653 << you'd be quite surprised at the variety of faux-olive oils in usa. errything from avocado to old tyres, i suspect☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 13:14 diana_coman: mircea_popescu, peasants of 1800 did not have the option of plastic or they'd have taken it just the same; that being said I still recall the communist-ro going precisely that route e.g. have now this here wonderful soya-oil just as good as the "true thing" which supposedly was... sunflower oil because nobody was supposed to even remember olive oil
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743673 << in ru , 'the glory of the ancien regime' types get the label 'хруст французской булки'☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 13:20 mircea_popescu: consider what the (immensely popular at the time) item says : "la tarani le-a luat pamintul, la studenti le-a luat cuvintul, la soferi le-a luat benzina, la prosti le facea cu mina". ie, the peasants HAD land. how ? when ? without the fucking communists the usg-alligned maniu, bratianu & friends would be STILL dithering over minor land distributions. exactly like the usgstan does.
asciilifeform: ( from a fantasy-nostalgia song that contained said line , 'Как упоительны в России вечера, Любовь, шампанское, закаты, переулки. Ах, лето красное, забавы и прогулки, Как упоительны в России вечера. Балы, красавицы, лакеи, юнкера, И вальсы Шуберта, и хруст французской б
asciilifeform: улки ...' )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what do you think it is i do, all day every day ?
asciilifeform: dunno, herd ocelots ?
asciilifeform: or other selected, exotic beasts. but surely not cow.
asciilifeform: re peasants -- dim-witted westerners of prev generation ( current ones have nfi and dun give half a shit even if you plug'em into the mains wiring ) thought that somehow communism happened because of malevolent martians landing, rather than from http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743681☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 13:22 mircea_popescu: diana_coman yes, pre-communism romania had private land ownership, resulting in "tarani" as the genertal noun not having any land.
mircea_popescu: and they come from what ?
asciilifeform: i've nfi from what. from the wild.
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: andf that "wild" is ?
asciilifeform: the saeculum, presided over by various herdemoocracies etc ?
mircea_popescu: so how do you secrete a wall between this and cows all day ?
asciilifeform: well specifically i picture mircea_popescu as moar of a hunter than a farmer
mircea_popescu: do you think these categories are distinguishable ? modern hunter === modern farmer.
asciilifeform: hunter doesn't concern himself with every piece of fungus in the forest, he walks in and shoots the tastiest-looking thing he knows how to get a bead on, neh
asciilifeform: farmer -- concerned with fungi.
mircea_popescu: this is purely an artefact of interpretative ballet.
asciilifeform: and stuck with the chore of running a faux ecosystem with own hands, feeding the defective piglets to the proper ones, etc
asciilifeform: hm?
mircea_popescu: hunter, concerns, inasmuch as he bothers to notice frog is frog does not shoot at frog ; farmer, doesn't concern, in asmuch as doesn't go out picking thistle.
asciilifeform: hunter takes the forest as it is; farmer otoh is running a pretend-herdemoocracy-forest where calorie-dense seeds appear in rather unlikely densities ( as reviewed in http://trilema.com/2014/in-which-you-become-grain )
asciilifeform: farmer pushes the boulder uphill, and is stuck with 9000 types of 'naturam expellas furca tamen usque recurret' (tm)(r) chores.
mircea_popescu: this is nonsense, but it also has exhausted my budget.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu at some later point feels like showing how farmer and hunter are exactly same thing, i'll listen.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743697 << i suspect... marx! has the pill here. entfremdung der arbeit (tm)(r)☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 13:28 mircea_popescu: i never quite understood why gardening is universally popular.
asciilifeform: !#s while you sleep
a111: 37 results for "while you sleep", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=while%20you%20sleep
asciilifeform: quite a few folx, esp. the mentally limited, are irresistibly drawn to anything that smells of http://btcbase.org/log/2014-01-19#449500☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-01-19 19:48 mircea_popescu: i came to it studying the warrior forum (*) years ago, when i noticed the unifying factor in all their textual emissions was a desire to "make money while you sleep".
asciilifeform: an incidentally interesting bit is that gardens are an 'unprincipled exception' in usgdom just as they were in su. theoretically a garden aficionado owes every 4th tomato or whatever his 'bracket' is, to usg, as tax; things that grow from the ground count, famously, as 'income' -- even if not sold -- per 'wickard v. filburn'
asciilifeform: it may even already be the case that the cost of a ~proper~ (i.e. non-poisoned) vegetable in usgdom from the specialty shop, counting the multiple taxation (of yer own money, as 'income', of the sale, as state 'sales tax', of the growers', of the landlord's, etc ) layers, equals or exceeds the cost of growing it with own hands in a garden.
asciilifeform: !#s wickard
a111: 8 results for "wickard", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=wickard
asciilifeform: ^ apparently already visited.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your notion is anachronistic, in the sense that it compares a "hunter" cut out of the 10k years ago subsistence hunter contained in the expression hunter-gatherer with the modern farmer. you can't cross time boundries like that. modern hunter is modern in exactly the same way modern farmer is modern, and for the same reasons. historical "farmer" is just as primitive as the hunter, which is why it's even called
mircea_popescu: gatherer as opposed to farmer.
asciilifeform: in the sense of him being a tentacle on a gigantic farming-powered civilization, that made his rifle, his shirt, his truck -- yea
mircea_popescu: and in the sense that he has the choice to either put mangers in and fill them every winter or be forest walker ; and that he either obeys "hunting season" or idem ; and so on.
asciilifeform: i didn't say that i saw mircea_popescu as ~modern~ hunter, lol
asciilifeform: nah, proper one, in bear skin, with spear, etc.
mircea_popescu: modernity is modernity, there's no out of it. once you walked around your cage, it's walked, there's no undoing it.
mircea_popescu: this being the only proper definition of modernity : man after finally having walked the perimeter of his cage.
mircea_popescu: "age of exploration" aite.
asciilifeform: there's also such a thing as countermodernity tho
asciilifeform: sawing through the cage.
mircea_popescu: in the sense there's a thing as countericecream
mircea_popescu: frozen yogurt stilll icecream.
asciilifeform: the herdemoocracy narrative is that steam power made clitler inescapable. i dun buy.
asciilifeform: ( or alternatively if you prefer http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-20#1672530 )☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-20 17:19 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: stalin, supposedly, once said to his friends, 'history divides into three eras, matriarchate, patriarchate, and secretariate'
mircea_popescu: all "sawing through the cage" proposals i've seen to date (and a major part of what i do is look for exactly that) consist of either idle wankery (german philosophy school etc) or else "here's how to cut a two inch hole in the wall, stick a paper bag out of there, and duct tape it to the hole from outside". ty... but... this replaces a wall with a paper bag ? "yes, but it goes FURTHER OUT!!" sure, but i still know it like my
mircea_popescu: own pocket ? "well of course... what did you expect ?" honestly, nothing much.
mircea_popescu: there's no going back to a state of innocence, whereby "we don't know what's at the end of the earth". thereby, there's no going back to a state where we will ever do anything other than sift through herds looking for the accidentally lost woman in an inexplicable sheepskin.
mircea_popescu: which reduces to, "most of your time, and most of your women's time, will be spent with cows."
asciilifeform: i'll point out, for completeness, the traditional alternatives of: the bottle, and the library
asciilifeform: 0 cows in either
mircea_popescu: wankery.
asciilifeform: and wankery!11
mircea_popescu: no. THOSE are wankery.
asciilifeform: well if defining walking around with an unenclosed cock as necessarily wankery -- then yes
mircea_popescu: wankery is the adolescentine state whereby the things we don't look at aren't there because the power of our imagination makes the playboy girl real!
asciilifeform: [insert 'literacy is sin, as the reader sees things that ain't there' thread here]
mircea_popescu: which incidentally provides the explanation for http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-24#1742829 as plain as day.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-24 05:34 mircea_popescu: one day i'll understand how this sense-nonsense alloying works.
mircea_popescu: "lifetime wanker will have adapted to his lifestyle". oh... you don't say.
asciilifeform: there might still be a few chukchas left somewhere who properly practice the virtue of 'never see a thing that ain't there' . the folx who shown a novel answer 'why'
mircea_popescu: you'd be surprised what % of current "novels" fail this simple test.
asciilifeform: this also. and the detritus eventually clogs the arteries of whatever culture produced it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the problem, as that wise doctor pointed out, isn't when you start hearing voices, but when you start talking back.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to see things thatr aren't there. for as long as you live in the world of things that are there. once you move to living in the unreal...
asciilifeform: see possibly also the thread with faraday and his magnetic field lines.
asciilifeform: 'dreamer' culture is somewhat like a school of pilotage absent the landing.
asciilifeform: ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-05#548254 )☝︎
a111: Logged on 2014-03-05 23:06 asciilifeform: the 'time microscope' thing is typical of aging inventors who, by virtue of being cut off from competent peers (either by having none alive, or being on the wrong side of a jail of one kind or another)
asciilifeform: there's 2 possible uses of abstraction -- a) to move between places in reality phase space that aren't walkable to via greedy algorithm ( e.g. tractor is not a minor refinement on horse-drawn plow ) b) to pull own cock
asciilifeform: when folx begin to see reality as 'read-only', they retreat into full-bore (b) .
asciilifeform: i'll recount an episode recently reported by asciilifeform's pet, on reconnaissance into a heathen pit . two d00dz argued re 'post-rsa crypto'. and one drew forth from his sleeve an erudite wankery, n-th generation stolen from thel0gz! : 'why not cipher using playing field of cellular automaton, say, game of life, initial state as key...'
asciilifeform: witness the traditional 'tlp' symptoms of walking around with no inclination to ~try~ such a thing, or anything at all, with own hands, and see why this dun work with any known automaton ruleset ( do i have to say why, or readers already know ? )
asciilifeform: ( i'm rot13 the answ to riddle : gurer vf ab xabja jnl gb thnenagrr na vavgvny jbeyq fgngr gung qbrfa'g dhvpxyl pbairetr vagb n svkrq fgrnql fgngr, be n ernfbanoyl fubeg ybbc (juvpu tvirf gevivnyyl oernxnoyr pvcuregrkg) -- vg vf rknpgyl gur fnzr vgrz nf gur 'lrf vg'f na ac-pbzcyrgr ceboyrz, ohg ubj gb thnenagrr gung n enaqbzyl trarengrq vafgnapr vf abg gevivny?' )
asciilifeform: but it's a trivially discoverable fact, for people who actually bothered with the subj beyond chitchat.
asciilifeform bbl,meat
asciilifeform: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 9915.01, vol: 9889.25891721 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 9910.1, vol: 43921.30261443 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 9846.5, vol: 2382.27948271 | Volume-weighted last average: 9908.26779661
mod6: hai
asciilifeform: ohai mod6
mod6: how goes ascii?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-27#1743378 slowly☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-27 20:35 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've cut ffa into 30 pieces, each ~1 pg; -> bl0g article.
asciilifeform: and continued headaching over http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-27#1743395☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-27 20:40 asciilifeform: currently asciilifeform is barfing over the fact that adacore's gnat is happy to build static 'independent library' .a while gpl gcc's gnat barfs
mod6: huh.
asciilifeform: mod6: it's an afaik unjustifiable divergence in how the 2 gnats' 'gprbuild' util behaves.
mod6: ugh.
mod6: and adacore's is supposed to be canonical im guessing?
asciilifeform: on some far-away planet, there is a standard sane os and language standards cover linking.
asciilifeform: but not here.
mod6: fair enough
asciilifeform: and i dun have any particular warm feelings for either set of derps
asciilifeform: ( gnu-gnat or adacore-gnat people )
mod6: *nod*
asciilifeform: the former seem to exist solely by mooching from the latter -- who largely eat from usg
mod6: basically my mental picture of the whole thing
asciilifeform: but otherwise http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-27#1743398 so far.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-27 20:42 asciilifeform: i'd naively expect that adacore's item would be the satanic one, and gcc's fork -- the functional. but so far in no case was this the finding.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743816 << this is actually a pretty great point. yes, exactly.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 16:30 asciilifeform: 'dreamer' culture is somewhat like a school of pilotage absent the landing.
mircea_popescu: tractor, while just as real as oxplow, is nevertheless no kind of oxplow ; sewing machine, while just as sewy as sewing by hand, nevertheless not a mechanical sewing hand ; airplane, while just as aflight as bird, nevertheless not mechanical wing flapper. and so on.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743827 << a damn, i missed the big moment ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 17:56 jhvh1: asciilifeform: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 9915.01, vol: 9889.25891721 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 9910.1, vol: 43921.30261443 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 9846.5, vol: 2382.27948271 | Volume-weighted last average: 9908.26779661
mircea_popescu: 10k, bitch. where's your government now ?
asciilifeform: eh to quote mircea_popescu , who the hell cares what happens at a gox
mircea_popescu: the gox ppls!
mircea_popescu: same idiots as "o noes, unforkable bitcoin is not valuable!!11" continuously since 2013.
asciilifeform: to the extent they actually do something other than generate and post random numbers -- sure
ben_vulpes: and in other censorsheeps http://www.business-review.eu/news/certain-facebook-users-in-romania-see-content-related-to-street-protests-reviewed-under-community-standards-153255
asciilifeform: 'The common notification from Facebook was that the post was under review to see if it breached the community standards. Other posts about the protests were suspected by Facebook of being spam.' << lol!!
mircea_popescu: doh.
mod6: Let them filter spam.
ben_vulpes: mod6: antoinette reference?
mod6: maaaaybe
mod6: :D
ben_vulpes: "we don't have any real news!" "eh, let them filter spam."
ben_vulpes: could also be a "pound sand" replacement: "eh, filter spam"
asciilifeform: oh noez colourrevolution enzyme aint supposed to digest godly usg-approved muppetstate!11
mircea_popescu: ftr : romanian "protests" entirely usg fabrication, https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2017/11/275899.htm etc. the way this gets implemented in practice is that local usg-alligned orcs "leverage their network". which in romania is a few kids with "network skillz", ie two bit "blackhatwordld" injuns/niggers.
mod6: 2 girls, 1 crimper
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/amintiri-de-la-revolutia-lui-calafat/ << EXACT same item, same people, same props, same everything, 5years ago.
asciilifeform: lol ro majdan
mircea_popescu: anyway, the whole thing is "we captured the ro judiciary, the wave turned, we're trying to defend this asset for now".
mircea_popescu: it won't hold.
asciilifeform: captured for what? the 'corruption' racket ?
mircea_popescu: yup.
asciilifeform: aa
mircea_popescu: "don't vote for x, he not only would confiscate our constanta base BUT IS VERY CORRUPT" sorta bs.
mircea_popescu: somehow the idiots didn't see that whole thing for the trap it was. "first, let them build it, doh"
mircea_popescu: (the geostrategic situation, for the very understandably disinterested, is that usg can not maintain pretense of mediteranean presence without ground missiles in constanta, because the ru navy actually works whereas the us clittorals do not.)
asciilifeform: turks not enuff ?
mircea_popescu: nope. russians can now jam. either you get them next to sevastopol or forget it.
mircea_popescu: thereby "corruption = the rent is about to go up ~1`984x"
asciilifeform: hey if usg ~to this day~ has gitmo, inside a cuba, for 0 rent, why not costanta
mircea_popescu: because what trhe fuck is cuba.
asciilifeform: dunno, small bananistan with a surprisingly successful history of expelling usg ?
mircea_popescu: islands dude. islands are undefensible.
asciilifeform: dunno, castro defended for 50y
mircea_popescu: ended in the 70s, so not really.
mircea_popescu: coupla decades.
asciilifeform: ended??
mircea_popescu: yeah.
asciilifeform: how's that
asciilifeform: afaik usg Official Truth to this day is 'cuba Must Die'
mircea_popescu: i don't recall castro making any decision in the kennedy ultimatum, at any juncture.
asciilifeform: the bay of pigs folx got their arse handed to'em neh
mircea_popescu: if hruschev went "well, it's up to castro", then defended.
asciilifeform: cuba not overrun even after hrusch withdrew
asciilifeform: why not ?
mircea_popescu: same reason you didn't rape some fatty.
mircea_popescu: "not overrun" but i don't see it sending agents to blow up dept of state trashbins.
asciilifeform: i'm not sold that this fatty was fat. ru signals base happily churned along in cuba until '93 or so
mircea_popescu: at some point, cuba was exactly 1980s libya, attacked usg frigates in port and paid people to bomb
asciilifeform: libya had petro moneys
asciilifeform: cuba -- poor
mircea_popescu: for whatever reason it may have occured.
asciilifeform: iirc stopped with the frigates when su so ordered.
asciilifeform: ( cuba, that is )
mircea_popescu: more like, when stalin died. cuba was international socialism thing. like mexico.
asciilifeform: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 9872.54, vol: 10977.65162483 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 9889.0, vol: 48178.83177407 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 9786.0, vol: 2454.29600468 | Volume-weighted last average: 9881.96414299
asciilifeform: ... epic goxlag tho.
ben_vulpes: REEEEEEEEEESPONSIBLE DISCLOSUREEEEEEEEE https://twitter.com/lemiorhan/status/935578694541770752
asciilifeform: pretty great.
ben_vulpes: the responsible disclosure whining is pretty lolarious
mircea_popescu: the expectation on the part of the usg drones that usg gets a private first pass for being usg is something else.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all --currency eur
mircea_popescu: somehow "criminal" isn't supposed to FIRST be notified PRIVATELY about how usg aims to assault.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitfinex BTCEUR last: 8312.9, vol: 1584.62517085 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 8280.0, vol: 6766.91938897 | Volume-weighted last average: 8286.24245824
mircea_popescu: this is what's gonna be the new response to police "arrest" : you DID first send a PM right ?
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> the responsible disclosure whining is pretty lolarious << very.
asciilifeform: !!up The20YearIRCloud
deedbot: The20YearIRCloud voiced for 30 minutes.
The20YearIRCloud: I feel special now
asciilifeform: The20YearIRCloud: looking for anything in particular ?
The20YearIRCloud: Not so much, just wondered what happened to the exchange, or if i'm missing something
The20YearIRCloud: and bitbet or whateverit was called
ben_vulpes: The20YearIRCloud: there are logs, nobody is going to read them for you.
ben_vulpes: if you're keeping up, you're falling behind.
ben_vulpes: not* keeping up
The20YearIRCloud: yay
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743697 << I suspected it was the appeal of contest in attempting to carve out a local space where one tries to out-God the Gods☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 13:28 mircea_popescu: i never quite understood why gardening is universally popular.
mircea_popescu: so you can watch every single bug and worm piss on you from high above ?
BingoBoingo: And smite the ones you spot, learn from the experience and bring a better game next season. Very much a resistance of the medium sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: the trick with Gods is that they're not fucking Atlas, supporting the world on own shoulder each and every day or else. http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-07#1448124 very much apropos.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-07 17:50 mircea_popescu: basically, all the architecture systems architects have managed yet to produce is the equivalent of "we need 10.1k builders - 100 to build and 10k to hold up the walls once we're done".
BingoBoingo: Hey, if the Gods raid your playing god patch with a bunch of voracious bunny rabbit mobs, then you've gardened delicious rabbit
BingoBoingo: And not all gardening is food. There's also the decorative gardens for getting randy with the ladies
mircea_popescu: i've been making candlewax garden of late. shit's fun.
BingoBoingo plans to wait at least one year before trying to terraform any corners or Uruguay
mircea_popescu: good idea.
mircea_popescu: at least cursory familiarity with the poisonous plants pre-required
The20YearIRCloud: mircea_popescu: I had someone ask about those posters if they were valid today, oddly enough
The20YearIRCloud: (Thus me finding the chat again)
mircea_popescu: the who ?
The20YearIRCloud: The posters you paid for, ~3yrs ago
mircea_popescu: link ?
mircea_popescu: i have paid for so many posters... what is this, the pili thing ?
The20YearIRCloud: for property tenants of my company, 2-3 years ago, gave out a bunch of posters to ungreatful tenants whom you offered 0.5btc to
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha
mircea_popescu: oookay.
mircea_popescu: send them to http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/
The20YearIRCloud: ha ha ha, i actually thought about that
The20YearIRCloud: Are you still paying 0.02?
mircea_popescu: yes.
The20YearIRCloud: Dang, that's a bit generous, don't you think?
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: but hey, 0.5 was also VERY generous ; and in general everything i do is. meanwhile the fucktards http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743513☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 03:39 mircea_popescu: somehow if the usg website comes up with "it's illegal to smoke", they stop smoking, AS FUCKING IF. whereas when the republic orders, they "have options".
The20YearIRCloud: I'll let em know. For some reason I have t his awful feeling they'll be more apt for that then to take the freebie offered years ago
mircea_popescu: of course.
The20YearIRCloud: 0.5 was fantastically generous at the time (It was like $50 if memory serves me right), but like i said, and I could find the chat log, i was (And continue to deal with) idiots on a daily basis
mircea_popescu: !!ratings The20YearIRCloud
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/bodzD/?raw=true
The20YearIRCloud: new system?
mircea_popescu: !!key The20YearIRCloud
deedbot: Not registered.
mircea_popescu: not really.
mircea_popescu: rather i expect new name ?
The20YearIRCloud: possibly, it was just the20year earlier
mircea_popescu: !!ratings The20Year
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/U06qL/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: !!reputation The20Year
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Jz0eA/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: trinque did i mention how great eg http://wot.deedbot.org/0FC17787D364466DC5686B4F31AF6822CA3B400F.html is recently ?
trinque: not bad eh?
mircea_popescu: perfect.
BingoBoingo: Poor The20YearIRCloud , insufficient ratings to bid for colo space
BingoBoingo: Recovery from Havelol will prolly take substantial tit wrangling
mircea_popescu: apparently the expectation is that 3 year rule.
BingoBoingo: What was that again? Shame, disappear for 3 years and slave away in the tit mines?
BingoBoingo: In gr8 gardenings http://trilema.com/2013/growin-my-own/