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ben_vulpes: !!up BigTexasBingo
deedbot: BigTexasBingo voiced for 30 minutes.
BigTexasBingo: Muchas gracias. Navidad muy tranquila after the three solid hours of latino Xmas fireworks
BigTexasBingo: Polishing my boots for a week of pounding pavement during the day on the isp and pounding something else in the evenings
BigTexasBingo: Businesses are starting to reopen in phases and it appears fireworks may happen again
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758144 << comment stuck in spam queue? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 19:15 asciilifeform: !~later tell phf plox post your puzzle-hash as comment in ch4
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756397 indeed ; drama afoot ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 05:13 deedbot: danielpbarron paid MTW 0.054
MTW: hey
MTW: danielpbarron: my withdraw never went through
mircea_popescu: did you verify it ?
MTW: i did
MTW: and i see a 0.0 balance now
mircea_popescu: what address was it to go to ?
MTW: but no transaction on blockchain, etc
MTW: sec let me check logs
MTW: 1LYDdX8NNA3J5Zi8GMDBCtrCCwoAp6pVKV
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758589 << i don't get what the problem is. write a patch that modifies the filebase into the shape you want it to be. what's the problem ? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-25 22:55 ben_vulpes: that don't touch the same file
trinque: MTW: ah, I see it. there's a printout I apparently didn't get. give me a few and I'll dispatch.
MTW: awesome alright
trinque: the bot uses a cold wallet, with a human step
mircea_popescu: cool.
MTW: yeah that is the smart way to do it
trinque: MTW: I am the operator, so report any strange to me. sorry for the delay.
MTW: will do, nbd
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758595 << is teh punchline missing there ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-25 23:56 phf: so naturally i was surprised and delighted when i came to u.s., and discovered that every other person i'd meet was also russian, by way of a great great great great parent who imigrated from ireland, fleeing as he was the repercussions of second desmond rebellion
phf: one disadvantage of irc is that once you start on a thought, you can't really revise. i didn't really have a good punch line, so i left it at that, a dud, rather than fizzle with a weak punchline.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758601 << queue is empty ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 00:25 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758144 << comment stuck in spam queue?
phf: asciilifeform: weird, because i posted and it gave me a #comment-xxx redirect, which is usually what it does when waiting for moderator
mircea_popescu: quote the xxx ?
phf: hmm, i think firefox's history might've died with a crash, so i got nothing, i'll just repost
deedbot: MTW: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lkbVa/?raw=true
asciilifeform: phf: comment posted
asciilifeform notices massive shitflood, turns out: front page of lamernews again
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: aand in other socialism-improved-college lulz, https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/21/chicago-was-sexual-fantasy-of-us-professor-and-oxford-college-worker
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-hippopotamus/ << Trilema - The Hippopotamus
BingoBoingo: And I got to skip the awkward waiting between mandatory check out and check back in times at the hostel
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 15301.0, vol: 13793.77734905 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 14997.0, vol: 57417.10285256 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 15316.5, vol: 2684.04490121 | Volume-weighted last average: 15065.3519288
BingoBoingo: Who could have predicted that bank holiday ends and crashing resumes!
BingoBoingo: !!up zen_
deedbot: zen_ voiced for 30 minutes.
zen_: oh shit does that mean i have to chat that long?
BingoBoingo: zen_: Quien es su papa y que se hace el? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: zen_: No, it means you have that long to make a case for sticking around
BingoBoingo: Or issue a plea for the chance to make your case again
zen_: i have a case of chocolate truffles ☟︎
zen_: will that suffice?
BingoBoingo: El chocolate truffles, de donde es?
BingoBoingo: Anyways with regards to your identity. Who are you, Where did you come from, How did you get here, and where to you imagine you are going?
BingoBoingo: tick tock
BingoBoingo: zen_: ^
BingoBoingo: zen_: Also do you have a blog, or any links to work which might impress the republic?
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/12/26/as-it-turns-out-fireworks-do-not-photograph-well-navidad-in-the-land-of-tranquility/ << Bingo Blog - As It Turns Out Fireworks Do Not Photograph Well: Navidad In The Land Of Tranquility
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/Q0fc5 >> 'Thousands of government papers detailing some of the most controversial episodes in 20th-century British history have vanished after civil servants removed them from the country’s National Archives and then reported them as lost.'
shinohai: The whole series thus far is very entertaining.
shinohai: Nice post BingoBoingo, only thing that offends my ears: "El edificios aca tiene huesos / Los edificios aca tienen huesos"
BingoBoingo: Muchas gracias
BingoBoingo: It appears my verb tense errors may be leaking bits of recent conversation context
BingoBoingo: In other news, god bless Peru for not having real datacenters. Sounds like a very inconvenient place to be right now.
shinohai: De nada .... what's happening in Peru, The Cuy is rising up?
BingoBoingo: The current president issued a compasionate pardon allowing former president to die in a hospital rather than prison. The pantsuit fake news is alleging riots. Possibility of USG.blue color shennanigans.
shinohai: Turns out that my supposition wasn't too far off, average Peruvian being about as intelligent as a cuy,
BingoBoingo: En otra cosas http://www.elpais.com.uy/informacion/montevideo-eje-megaestafa-dinero-irregular.html
BingoBoingo: And this is how they do the weather here http://www.elpais.com.uy/informacion/mal-asi-estara-diciembre-enero.html
shinohai: Does local TV have sexy weather girl BingoBoingo ? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: I haven't actively watched tv since Houston
BingoBoingo: lol http://www.elpais.com.uy/informacion/afap-cruzan-murro-exigen-discutir-sistema.html
shinohai: http://archive.is/LBEfk << Wonder if I can get a discount if I use Prime.
shinohai: http://archive.is/5AOg5 << Run moar prb ... "I dont know how i got hacked, i use my laptop just for coldstorage, i turn it on and all my BTC are gone."
shinohai: I don't think cold storage means what you think it means.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2017/12/26/other-assorted-trivia-on-navidad-in-uruguay/ << Bingo Blog - Other Assorted Trivia On Navidad In Uruguay
BingoBoingo: And from the Spades and Spades departmento https://i.redditmedia.com/AQIpkdNnuUHHIyzGjCoT27cNXadOJaQXbMtC5IvJECg.jpg?w=603&s=680f4783200e1fcaac02a3c15602d477
shinohai: ^ top keke
BingoBoingo: And pantsuit climatarasty neglects that... when heat fuels 100% humidity... Rain tends to happen dropping the humidity again https://archive.is/k7j1f
BingoBoingo: And pantsuit WAPO defends assaults of sexual natures https://archive.is/LbRiA
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 15950.0, vol: 14013.56605120 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 15816.0, vol: 59791.06830403 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 16079.8, vol: 3298.34940167 | Volume-weighted last average: 15851.6396379
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758614 << consider a genesis, a and b patchset where a and b don't touch the same files. if i press to b, write a c that descends from b, it will not have a as an antecedent. when you say "modify the filebase into the shape that you want it to be", do you mean include the changes of a in the c patch? ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 01:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758589 << i don't get what the problem is. write a patch that modifies the filebase into the shape you want it to be. what's the problem ?
ben_vulpes: and in other profitable mining strategies: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/25/business/energy-environment/germany-electricity-negative-prices.html ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758644 << what's your daddy DO HIMSELF ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 13:30 BingoBoingo: zen_: Quien es su papa y que se hace el?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758647 << better than average, let's put it that way. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 13:32 zen_: i have a case of chocolate truffles
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758666 << speaking of, /me saw fox something-or-the-other over at whorehouse/steakhouse yest. they had a chick with an ass/waist/boob range that was iiincredible, and then had her act like a retarded 12yo playing pattycake and whatnot with the blondy they had paired her up with. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 15:19 shinohai: Does local TV have sexy weather girl BingoBoingo ?
mircea_popescu: sometimes lowest effort as typical of tv pays off, i guess.
BingoBoingo: lol
shinohai: xD
mircea_popescu: better than the "professional" conceit. really, someone got to anchor tv for their non-cleavage skills ? what am i to believe next, that bridges are for sale ?
BingoBoingo: Perhaps soon!
BingoBoingo: Could anchor for non-cleavage acrobatics skills.
mircea_popescu: if one's stuck pretending something stupid, better off make it include being stupid rather than pretend it's possible to include some kind of being smart that doesn't readily reduce to being smrt.
mircea_popescu: "oh, i read cnn for the commentary, the boobs are INCIDENTAL. also, fleshhouse and playcunt, same deal. oh and those letters to the editor ? totes legit!"
mircea_popescu: "the arrangement leaves me stranded when eg trying to understand why hillary lost, but that's ok, i'm not really meant to understand things."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758679 << the ~only way to fix a tree that has diverged is to regrind that portion of the divergence you intend to keep. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 17:52 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758614 << consider a genesis, a and b patchset where a and b don't touch the same files. if i press to b, write a c that descends from b, it will not have a as an antecedent. when you say "modify the filebase into the shape that you want it to be", do you mean include the changes of a in the c patch?
mircea_popescu: the situation where a and b are pressed SEPARATELY is a fork.
mircea_popescu: hence http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1757999 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 17:02 mircea_popescu: because it will cost someone's time to reconcile.
mircea_popescu: so as the reconciler, you get to pick which of ~either~ a ~or~ b to count in your considered oppinion as the republican and which as the heretic. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: because nothing less than this is at stake ; and do not make stray patches if you can help it.
hanbot: in other puns, i discovered just this morning that "hippopotamus" is the latin horse + river, had missed out on the double pun fun of http://trilema.com/2017/the-hippopotamus/ 's last line. i stand in awe and horror of whomever ends up adnotating trilema
mircea_popescu: ehehehe.
mircea_popescu: hanbot no but see, THIS is what a classical education fucking is. not retarded fry making hobbit jokes because hey, the history according to fry started when he first got a bit of usg.corp fried chicken.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aye aye
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 15662.0, vol: 13962.96317052 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 15563.0, vol: 60770.99895801 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 15746.5, vol: 3400.44095335 | Volume-weighted last average: 15588.6777321
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, got your package! ty
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: How's the frozen north?
danielpbarron: i hate it
mircea_popescu: o hey, nice.
danielpbarron: photographed the unboxing to maybe post on blog when i figure this mp-wp thing out
mircea_popescu: cool deal.
mircea_popescu: didja run into trouble with it ? ask away
danielpbarron: do you use apache(2) or nginx?
mircea_popescu: should work equally well on both.
mircea_popescu: atm some apache, but historically also nginx
danielpbarron: i'm familiar with apache but i was trying out nginx at first for this
mircea_popescu: might need mysql db installed separately if only comes with postgres or something
mircea_popescu can't recall if mp-wp still supports psql or not
shinohai: mp-wp worked equally well on apache and nginx for me. Never used another db besides mysql tho
BingoBoingo: !!up seefelder
ben_vulpes: !!up seefelder
deedbot: seefelder voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: seefelder voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: seefelder: Who is your daddy and what does he do himself?
seefelder: that's private
BingoBoingo: Well, who are you?
seefelder: i am (NOT) a bot, reflecting human species
BingoBoingo: That's not very informative, you've expended both your strikes. One last chance to make a good impression.
diana_coman: seefelder, any blog where one can read what you reflected on so far?
seefelder: only locally stored ... i am maybe paranoid
BingoBoingo: !!down seefelder
diana_coman: the dangerous reflections, who knew
phf: would that be considered "a coy behavior"?
BingoBoingo: Well, too coy for 2017
mircea_popescu: phf it is, isn't it ?
mircea_popescu: "avoidant" as per teh "attachment theory" nonsense that pantsuit "public policy" rests upon
diana_coman: seefelder, better install and play eulora, it might give you something to say at least; see http://logs.minigame.bz/
BingoBoingo: At the rate things are moving by mid 2018, the demand for openess to get a lend of voice is likely going to be self performed rectal ultrasound on mfc while reading logs ☟︎
mircea_popescu: more practically, voice will be acquired via introduction by lord, ie, court presentation. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: go make yer castles today, so noobs have a shot at life in 2018 ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Ah the lols to come from venue shopping n00bs
mircea_popescu: why so hostile anyway bb ?
BingoBoingo: Fireworks withdrawal
BingoBoingo: One doesn not see the city in the splendid glow of burning metal salts in the sky without missing them.
mircea_popescu: lel
BingoBoingo: There's chicas everywhere so if that fell through no big deal... The concerted effort put for by the locals on the Latino Christmas show, I lack the patience and means to make that happen on a whim.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758742 <<< Implying I don't already do this ..... ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 19:46 BingoBoingo: At the rate things are moving by mid 2018, the demand for openess to get a lend of voice is likely going to be self performed rectal ultrasound on mfc while reading logs
mircea_popescu just dumped a whole sack of coal on teh grill, teh girls happily cleanning up a grosse of pleurotus... if anyone needs me ima be at teh rancho bbqing. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: !!up borstal
deedbot: borstal voiced for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: it's still 2017, borstal, what do you have to show for how you've lived your life?
borstal: Right Banks, you bastard! I'm the daddy now, next time, I'll fucking kill ya!
shinohai sighs
mod6: TMSR~: mod6.net is back up. Thanks.
ben_vulpes: borstal: that's it?
borstal: 1
borstal: true (boolean)
diana_coman: !!down borstal
ben_vulpes: where's your holiday spirit, diana_coman
diana_coman: ben_vulpes, he started sounding too much like mpi-insane
ben_vulpes: #define true false
diana_coman: ahahaha, would fit perfectly, yes
mod6: :D
shinohai: This is hilarious on thepiratebay website, on the donation footer says: "Bcash: LOL" ☟︎
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758679 << to my mind this suggests the hashes present in vpatch blocks are wrong. if they were rather the hash of the entire concatenation of the diffed item before and after applying that block, there'd be no need to pointlessly edit files to continue on the same branch. ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 17:52 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758614 << consider a genesis, a and b patchset where a and b don't touch the same files. if i press to b, write a c that descends from b, it will not have a as an antecedent. when you say "modify the filebase into the shape that you want it to be", do you mean include the changes of a in the c patch?
trinque: further, pointless edits are antithetical to v-tronics
trinque: "whole patch must be meaningful"
ben_vulpes: it may be that tracking hashes at the file level isn't the right thing, because with vdiff as implemented i can trivially generate a vpatch b while working from a press of a that nevertheless still only depends on genesis if a leaves files untouched and b touches those untouched files only
diana_coman: I ran a bit into that with eucrypt but I can't say I have some clear idea what would be a good solution there as it seems to me it's a matter of level considered i.e. file, folder, component, whole project, what
mircea_popescu: trinque this is actually not altogether a meritless point.
ben_vulpes: so far the solutions i see are a) mircea_popescu's "what tree, all patches must descend linearly or be reground into linearity" 2) allow for pressing heads that do not touch the same files
diana_coman: onth "meaningful" there doesn't refer to code only and if new code in new files depends on existing code in untouched existing files, it may be meaningful nevertheless to update the readme file of the project for instance to say as much
mircea_popescu: imo "tree" MUST be linear. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: then if it is, trinque's point goes away because well... file hash as good as project hash for the linear bat.
ben_vulpes: this still leaves me in the pickle of producing a vpatch from a press to a that won't actually descend linearly from a without touching a file, and adding "this line necessary to ensure this vpatch descends from a and not genesis" ☟︎
phf: fwiw later approach has been a sop so far
ben_vulpes: phf: which vpatch does this show up in?
phf: ben_vulpes: official trb releases touch many files to tie them all into a single endpoint, e.g. `makefile' did that ☟︎
ben_vulpes: aha k
phf: http://btcbase.org/patches/makefiles#L390 etc.
shinohai: Just in time for the holidaaaaaaaaaaays fake bitcoin returns
shinohai: http://archive.is/RCrU9 ☟︎
ben_vulpes: phf: this exposes another problem: in ideal vtronics it is an illegal operation to press to multiple leaves at the same tree level, which is the only way to have a codebase against which to create a makefiles-type patch that ties multiple patches together ☟︎
phf: we also at some point had a thread, where i believe ascii but also others were leaning towards the idea of a single file vpatches (i.e. that a vpatch should only ever contain hunks for a single file). i'm starting to think that multi-file solutions in general are a hack ("we can't fit the entire compilation in memory"), but then i've been looking at TeX on one hand, and the "millions of support files" in diff/patch on the other ☟︎☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: also, single-file vpatches drives the system towards whole sourcetree hashing, otherwise they'll definitionally never depend on one another
phf: right
danielpbarron: !!balance
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/zdK8x/?raw=true
phf: i've also played around with treating vpatch as a container. there's a function on btcbase for splitting all of the vpatches into separate objects, that each hold a single file changes (it's called something like explode-vpatch)
phf: in which case your graph connections become mandatory transitions (rather than what it is now, where you can technically press two different vpatches against a non-overlapping sets of files)
phf: i don't remember if there was any kind of interesting insight from the resulting graph, i should revisit it..
trinque: danielpbarron: your boy MTW all set?
danielpbarron: i think so, but it'd be nice to get a confirmation from him in here
danielpbarron: relatedly, l0de expressed interest in running a "trilema infomercial" on his show. I told him he should bring it up in here, as i'm not sure what that should entail ☟︎
danielpbarron: !!up l0de
deedbot: l0de voiced for 30 minutes.
danielpbarron: reg a key and you'll be able to voice yourself
l0de: Yes hello, l0de here
l0de: the funds have been remitted to my account
l0de: all is well
danielpbarron: sweet
l0de: I suggest the most serene republic air some sort of introductory statement
l0de: to get viewers of my show interested in their political goals ☟︎
danielpbarron: would that be a pre-recorded audio clip/ video that we provide?
l0de: Or you can have someone call in to read a statement ☟︎
l0de: I would stress that my audience doesn't take anything seriously unless it's presented in a humorous context or it is presented as ruining someone's shit
l0de: as they are internet neer-do-wells
danielpbarron: perhaps we can get one of shinohai's cam whores to do it
shinohai: Assuming I can find one that speaks English nowadays ..... xD ☟︎
l0de: oh yeah, video chat with a cam whore would work perfectly
l0de: no nudity though, youtube is run by craven puritans
l0de: someone with a thick romanian\cambodian accent reading a statement they obviously do not understand
danielpbarron: wasn't indiancandy/sofiababy looking for a way to make bitcoin? ☟︎☟︎
l0de: already lolling
trinque: oh god.
trinque: literatits only pls
trinque: shinohai, you are the baron titsbare himself; got any camhos that can read?
shinohai: hmmm danielpbarron .... sofiababy may be good choice (though not one of my stable)
shinohai: !!up l0de
deedbot: l0de voiced for 30 minutes.
l0de: big up yourself
l0de: booyakasha
phf: in unrelated lulz, knuth shares mp approach to discipline:
phf: If you have only the present report, not a tape, you will have to prepare files WEAVE.WEB and TANGLE.WEB by hand, typing them into the computer by following Appendices D and E. Then you have to simulate the behavior of TANGLE by converting TANGLE.WEB manually into TANGLE.PAS ; with a good text editor this takes about six hours.
mircea_popescu: phf word.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758784 << true. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 21:40 phf: ben_vulpes: official trb releases touch many files to tie them all into a single endpoint, e.g. `makefile' did that
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758790 << especially in the light of 1. move/rename 2. edit double-patch method this seems more and more like the right thing ; but then again what to do of regrinds ? regrind should ideally be "one patch out of many" ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 21:42 phf: we also at some point had a thread, where i believe ascii but also others were leaning towards the idea of a single file vpatches (i.e. that a vpatch should only ever contain hunks for a single file). i'm starting to think that multi-file solutions in general are a hack ("we can't fit the entire compilation in memory"), but then i've been looking at TeX on one hand, and the "millions of support files" in diff/patch on the other
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758800 << this was re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758556 ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 22:02 danielpbarron: relatedly, l0de expressed interest in running a "trilema infomercial" on his show. I told him he should bring it up in here, as i'm not sure what that should entail
a111: Logged on 2017-12-25 19:34 mircea_popescu: and speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758548 anyone got any ideas of how to meaningfully support the SW hobbist ?
mircea_popescu: my original thought was "can we do something like the tits drip but for sw enthusiasts instead ?" ; alf pointed out thatr well, carrierless issue. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: if anyone's got an idea of how to construct the item though i'd much like to hear.
mircea_popescu: basically something like "do x, get y" with a well chosen x. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758811 << how's danielpbarron 's radio voice ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 22:14 l0de: Or you can have someone call in to read a statement
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758815 << do it in castellan, maximum lulz. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 22:19 shinohai: Assuming I can find one that speaks English nowadays ..... xD
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758819 << she kinda got sent off for NOT being looking dedicatedly enough ; then she got pissy because i imagine in her dumb head she had self-delusions as to self-importance as dear as they were baseless. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 22:22 danielpbarron: wasn't indiancandy/sofiababy looking for a way to make bitcoin?
mircea_popescu: if we had a chinese girl that'd work, except, of course...
shinohai: Yeah sofiababy left in huff, just noticed she had pm'd me to find her on skype but cba with that.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758841 << the real mega-puzzler is , what if anything are they capable of that is of any use whatsoever. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 23:05 mircea_popescu: basically something like "do x, get y" with a well chosen x.
asciilifeform: currently i know of nothing.