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asciilifeform: the other thing we do, is custom iron; currently typified by ' x + n x FG' . but can be whatever customer likes, potentially.
asciilifeform: ( iirc mircea_popescu one time tried getting heathen hosters to install fg, and found none who would attempt it )
mircea_popescu: indeed.
asciilifeform: btw can mircea_popescu et al think of a good reason to set up a public fg fountain? ( given how it is easy to do nao )
mircea_popescu: notrly.
asciilifeform currently can't think of any use for such a thing
mod6 is into rockchip \o/
asciilifeform: mod6: got your login ?
mod6: yup
asciilifeform: how's the box ?
mod6: so far, great. just logged in.
asciilifeform: try some torture tests ( serve up warez etc )
mod6: lol
mircea_popescu: uh
asciilifeform: theoretically should make for princely mpwp etc, also.
asciilifeform: btw i found that the dc, contrary to expectation, has ok radio reception. which means that we could make gsm modem bank etc
mod6: ah interesting
asciilifeform: ( iirc mircea_popescu at least once had an experiment that needed numerous sms receivers. could set this up in iron nao, in principle. )
asciilifeform: the sunday flea market, of all places, had ~infinite supply of that very particular huawei gsm modem that is used for this.
mircea_popescu: nah, they detect the broadband sort.
asciilifeform: not broadband sort. 100% voice.
mircea_popescu: also, very hard to beat the 1.x bucks a card thing here.
mircea_popescu: hm ?
asciilifeform: i wrote a linux thingie that drives'em
mircea_popescu: no ? what does it need ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, they take standard voice sims
asciilifeform: and operate as 'phone'
asciilifeform: you get pcm in/out, and dtmf encode,decode also
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. so you wrote a linux thingee which materializes some hardware into any arbitrary box ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingostan appears to have cheap sims also
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly i oughta elaborate
mircea_popescu: please do.
asciilifeform: gadget in question is ~= to the 'business end' of typical pnoje, 'baseband'. little bugger that takes a sim, and exposes a usb socket, from which one can dial, pickup/hangup, and pump pcm voice in/out. is all.
mircea_popescu: but you have to put the physical simm in there.
asciilifeform: and no it is not distinguishable on telco end or dialee end from a pnoje.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: correct. tho it is possible in principle to locate the sim elsewhere
mircea_popescu: whereas what would be useful would be a linux thingee which TAKES SOME BINARY, and does that for any arbitrary simm.
asciilifeform: exists
asciilifeform: the simulated gsm thing for 'hackrf' universal radiotron
mircea_popescu: well now like that, then yes very much helpful. i could buy 10k simms here, read them, put them into al arge blob file and have the item there ready.
asciilifeform: ( also fakes base station.
asciilifeform: )
asciilifeform: this is doable
mircea_popescu: and like this i expect it'd be very much a killer app, "pizarro destroys facebook authentication. make your facebook acct here, 0 cost"
asciilifeform: is what i was thinking
mircea_popescu: maybe we manage to get some countries entirely banned from facebook.
mircea_popescu: seems you still need a few parts emplaced. but i expect the masses would love such service.
mircea_popescu: because apparently lotta butthurt over facebook "banning" etc.
asciilifeform: i expect they'll want arseprints or sumthing, next
mircea_popescu: hey, ynot. they'll still cost a buck.
mircea_popescu: the whole fucking point of existence is to make life unlivable for the poor after all.
asciilifeform: right nao 'sms auth' is typically enuff problem for typical orc
mircea_popescu: there's "Services" but they dun work.
mircea_popescu: which is how i ended up brewing my own in the first place.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's multiple lulz layers in this subj :
asciilifeform: for instance, sim card is supposed to resist 'reading', has elaborate fritzology. but usually quite susceptible to elementary diddle ( dpa mainly )
mircea_popescu: i've not been following the subject, is "simm" item even broken ? what is it, a rfid chip i expect ?
asciilifeform: nah, contactful chip
asciilifeform: predates rfidism
mircea_popescu: yes but basically, it's just the same crap as found in a contemporary rfid
asciilifeform: hides a privkey
asciilifeform: aha
mircea_popescu: actual privkey or holywater privkey ?
mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall it had a weak-ish aes thing
asciilifeform: buncha randomola, which it hashes on demand with challenge string
asciilifeform: ( details on www, not seekrit )
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: dpa?
asciilifeform: 128b iirc
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: diff power anal.
mircea_popescu: yes but small and power dependent, so iirc takes minutes to crack one.
mircea_popescu: right.
asciilifeform: old noose, too.
mircea_popescu: now, not entirely clear that it's worth it to bother. so the story is, you buy however many of these, say $2 each, then put them through a machine to be cloned, then have server select the right one at a time... meh.
mircea_popescu: seems hardly worth it.
asciilifeform: i have nfi whether worth anything.
asciilifeform: but listing it as a physical possibility.
mircea_popescu: you end up with costs over ten bucks a number, and all this so what, so you can make a facebook acct worth exactly the same as facebook inc, ie 0 ?
mircea_popescu: this kinda reminds me of a discussion re romania's 1980s automotive industry, "a car back then, brand new dacia, cost about $800 in real money"
mircea_popescu: "wow!"
asciilifeform: i have nfi what this is used for, i still labour under impression that spam is -ev and a cargo cult
mircea_popescu: "it was WORTH about that much, also. you seen the shits ?"
mircea_popescu: "hm."
asciilifeform: 'worth at.
mircea_popescu: "this is why communism went away, it used up 2k worth of fuel and 5k worth of metal to produce $800 worth cars"
asciilifeform: frg scrapyard'
asciilifeform: 'spend bil to make mil'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, no, oin a strict utility basis. i wouldn't pay a whole grand to have https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/gallery/RENAULT-12-2038_12.jpg
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, those were on the road in timis
mircea_popescu: anyway. this ultimately seems about the same thing.
asciilifeform: and not 1 or 2 either
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, im sure there's plenty $800 "investments" from 1972 that still haven't fully amortised.
asciilifeform: a trabantoid is not 'investment' tho, anymoar than pair of wooden shoes
asciilifeform: it's a poverty artifact
mircea_popescu: not disputing the fu factor of "we don't care about your blather, republic uses your sims and phones as cumrags". but meh, we dun have the hands on deck for such excursions into wank qua cool.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, poverty of the spirit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right, not unless it is monetizable somehow. and afaik it aint
pinochle: ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1804099 << am interested, will follow up but off for the night☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 22:57 ben_vulpes: pinochle: for .003 btc/mo you can get a shared shell on a real fuckin workhorse of a machine
mircea_popescu logs into trilema admin panel, after a whole day. autocanned spams = 12. pending items = 0. win.
mircea_popescu: !#s onefixt
a111: 118 results for "onefixt", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=onefixt
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/buy-some-scammer-delinquent-debt-why-dont-you/ << Trilema - Buy some scammer delinquent debt why don't you!
ben_vulpes: !!v F3DA79D6B20116885BDE05129E761731F5A561410EF11AF98CE68AFF730CEBCA
deedbot: ben_vulpes rated pinochle 1 << sophisticated infiltrator
ben_vulpes: pinochle: i also have "rockchip" microservers for rent, 4 core, 1.4 GHz, reasonable amounts of storage should you desire to isolate your operations from peers in the wot http://pizarroisp.net/index.php/pizarro-hosting-rate-sheet/
ckang: ben_vulpes: have you done any test on the reliability of those USB3 drives?
mircea_popescu: !!up shurdeek
deedbot: shurdeek voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: who might you be ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804273 << nope. you're invited to buy the same drive and test. fwiw, and unlike cheaper ones, it has wear leveling.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 05:19 ckang: ben_vulpes: have you done any test on the reliability of those USB3 drives?
asciilifeform: and observe that the pizarro rockboxen are build without swapism.
asciilifeform: *built
ckang: ah thats what i was going to ask
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform never enables swap at all, period. it is an anachronism. )
ckang: http://www.cypress.com/documentation/application-notes/an89661-usb-raid-1-disk-design-using-ez-usbr-fx3stm
ckang: i was considering using this and spinning a board at one point
ckang: but the fx3s is still pretty pricey in low volume
asciilifeform: ckang: idiocy; they will wear at same rate
asciilifeform: in raid1
asciilifeform: and fail at same moment
ckang: most servers are going to that setup though
ckang: new ones anyways
asciilifeform: because fauxraid and again idiot buyers
asciilifeform: and FUCK 'most are going'
asciilifeform: with red hot arse poker.
ckang: all our new dells do anyway
ckang: granted we still use usb drives...
asciilifeform: i will not be buying any fauxraids. or dells.
ckang: even with low writes, every usb seems to fail after a year of being plugged up and running
ckang: granted its mostly consumer grade stuff, samsung
ckang: sandisk
asciilifeform: ckang: i have nfi what you've been buying; over here i have boxen that've been running off usb drives for 4+ yrs
asciilifeform: 24/7
asciilifeform: just . don't. fucking. swap. to. them. and don't winblowz/crapple/whatever shituntus insist on constantly massaging the drive for no reason.
ckang: mostly use them for esxi host, not a big deal if it dies fortunately
ckang: http://pizarroisp.net/index.php/pizarro-hosting-rate-sheet/ <-- down?
asciilifeform: nope
asciilifeform: loads for me
asciilifeform: re drives : do recall that you get a phree yearly swap, ~if needed~ .
asciilifeform: ( if we pull the 'failed' drive, and all sectors write ok, you'll be getting that same drive again. )
asciilifeform: and backups are the customer's responsibility. always and without exception.
ckang: do you have the drive model by chance?
ckang: the ones I have are samsung usb3 dont advertise wear leveling
asciilifeform: MUF-128BB/AM
ckang: ty
asciilifeform: supposed to have it. i dun have the chipset datashit tho, cannot say for certain.
ckang: hmm actually i have a few of those in use now
asciilifeform: it's a reasonably common item
mod6: mornin' TMSR~
asciilifeform: ohai mod6
mod6: feelin better today? got some rest?
asciilifeform: mod6: a bit
mod6: *nod*
mod6: feel free to relax for a few days if you need to recover from mega-flight
asciilifeform: mod6: some relax but lotsa chores, gotta get dulap3 doing its thing
mod6: werd.
asciilifeform: !!up avgjoe
deedbot: avgjoe voiced for 30 minutes.
avgjoe: thanks, i'm registered on deedbot
lobbesbot: avgjoe: Sent 1 day, 21 hours, and 32 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> I don't talk to strangers in private
avgjoe: so i'd like to ask what happens if there are other "avgjoe" logged on irc and my client change a bit the username to log me in
avgjoe: is there a way to register the username on the channel?
asciilifeform: avgjoe: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration etc
asciilifeform: it's a fleanode chan, reg yer nick on fleanode
avgjoe: when i log in it says: Your host is hobana.freenode.net[81.18.73.123/6667],
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: follow their recipe, reg the nick
avgjoe: ok, i just wanted to report my experience installing TRB. On debian stretch after installing all the dependencies listed on http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html , i've modified on /etc/apt/sources.list the repo to the jessie one, then installed gcc and g++ 4.9, then reversed back to stretch
avgjoe: after installing the deps, i had to set export CPPFLAGS="-P" , otherwise it fails in the middle
avgjoe: then started the bitcoind with LC_ALL=C in front of the command and started syncing
avgjoe: so far is working properly on debian 9 just modifying the repo (because stretch repo hasn't gcc 4.x)
avgjoe: my question is: if i add nodes that aren't on the trusted nodes list, what are the risks?
BingoBoingo: <avgjoe> my question is: if i add nodes that aren't on the trusted nodes list, what are the risks? << Unknown, generally desirable to get more connections. The idea of the list is to provide a minimum number of non-evil nodes to help you stay in civilized communion.
avgjoe: but aren't new blocks fetched from evil implementations?
avgjoe: someone (not my server, but some other trb instance) is going to get from who these blocks?
BingoBoingo: Maybe? Maybe not? The question is do the blocks validate as good.
BingoBoingo: If the blocks are good, they are Bitcoin Blocks. If not, they are some sort of altcoin (but probably not capital A Altcoin) blocks
avgjoe: ok i understand, so i shouldn't worry if for instance i connect to a segwit node, my node will try to chop off the irrelevant parts of what it receive, correct?
avgjoe: so the trusted nodes list is more useful on the initial startup when there are a lot of blocks to download and it'd be easier to just have nodes that doesn't send unnecessary info (like segwit payload)?
BingoBoingo: Segwit nodes usually have been bricked to the point of not successfully connecting to the Bitcoin network
BingoBoingo: And Segwit can't in the form the Power Rangers settled on arbitrarily slice shit off of transactions or blocks. Segwit is an opt-in evil. It can only tickle your butthole if you let it in.
avgjoe: other curiosity i've not found on logs: what does it means bastard block on the debug.log?
BingoBoingo: The node is unaware of the block's parentage.
BingoBoingo: It may be a good block, it it will have to try getting accepted again once the node is aware of its daddy
BingoBoingo: This keeps bastards from unproductively filling up RAM
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-20#1804073 << lol this is from l0de radio hour☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-20 20:56 ckang: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform https://vocaroo.com/i/s1p0rtngI86E
deedbot: http://danielpbarron.com/2018/a-true-church-at-porcfest/ << Daniel P. Barron - A True Church at PorcFest
deedbot: http://trinque.org/2018/04/21/houston-art-car-parade/ << trinque - Houston Art Car Parade
mircea_popescu: !!up shurdeek
deedbot: shurdeek voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: there ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, btw, ask darwin if he ever saw "beyond the forest" ? possibly bette davis' best movie (which, predictably, she hated doing, thought was terrible when done, luckily for the world jack warner existed and the hallucinations of choice and self-determination of 1940s pantsuits went straight nowhere)
lobbes: ha, my favorite's gotta be the d00d riding the lawnmower-piano >> http://trinque.org/2018/04/21/houston-art-car-parade/
trinque: this is what happens when you don't have phf's three generations of bidet before piano.
mircea_popescu: trinque, reviewed red dragon with girl yest, there's that scene when the nut confronts blake's drawing, derpy museum guide in the background "200 years old!". drew some laughs, fuck me, we held 800 yo manuscripts. europe is fulla them.
mircea_popescu: http://trinque.org/wp-content/uploads/artcar/1ptEibDKTTeV15LCEUo9Rg_thumb_377.jpg << "gonna run for president, then got high." aaaayup.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> trinque, reviewed red dragon with girl yest, there's that scene when the nut confronts blake's drawing, derpy museum guide in the background "200 years old!". drew some laughs, fuck me, we held 800 yo manuscripts. europe is fulla them. << I prefer the original filmed version "Manhunter", Very 1980's product.
mircea_popescu: trinque, : "I guess the guy thought Mad Max wasn't fabulous enough." << this. this is where your divine nature shines through. it's fucking perfect, i've been gasping for air the past minute.
mircea_popescu: fabulous, right, because we weren't supposed to notice madmax is gay interest for the sort who "go viking".
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, hard to say no to hopkins etc.
trinque: lol yeah, serious gay vibes throughout.
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: good quality humour always includes a pinch to heaping spoonfuls of ~providing something in short supply~. the pantsuit tards translate this as "speak truth to power", but it's utter bullshit. the politics of humour are uninteresting from a humor-centered perspective ; but the economics of humor are not -- because economics was blessed by god originally with this and only this its attribute : you will forever be field-relevan
mircea_popescu: t to any field howsoever defined.
mircea_popescu: and have you noticed how little PATRONIZING of gays is available on the discoursive shelves of today ?
mircea_popescu: that's my own explanation for myself as to what has just happened to me, for the record. "the guy thought..." in context.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo, hard to say no to hopkins etc. << Sure, but the original film has a much better deviant
mircea_popescu: yeahj the red dragon script is terribad, all that woman-interest bs with 4tehchildrenz etc.
BingoBoingo: The Tom Noonan fellow more than makes up for Hopkins absence
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804361 << he has not seen it☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 18:26 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, btw, ask darwin if he ever saw "beyond the forest" ? possibly bette davis' best movie (which, predictably, she hated doing, thought was terrible when done, luckily for the world jack warner existed and the hallucinations of choice and self-determination of 1940s pantsuits went straight nowhere)
mircea_popescu: well, let me know what he thinks if he ever does.
mircea_popescu: better film of woman as satan i do not know.
BingoBoingo: There's also a made for TV adaptation spanning three seasons which no one has time for in 2018 that turns the script into an overt love story between the FBI profiler and the Republican psychiatrist to fill time
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, heh. tv junklets you knopw\]
BingoBoingo: Show ends with Jack and Hannibal erotically slicing up the FYIAD fellow and cliff diving to presumed death or a cancelled fourth season of their love story
mircea_popescu: heh
BingoBoingo: Turns out you CAN be too gay for NBC
mircea_popescu: or maybe just not fabulous enough.
BingoBoingo: Also possible. Maybe it was for spreading very 1980's stereotypes of homosexuals?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804351 << at some point one of us is doomed to write The Book . folx still walk in with fundamental misconceptions re how bitcoin worx, and there is no ready means of curing'em☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 16:29 BingoBoingo: The node is unaware of the block's parentage.
phf: that darwin fish conversation was quite pleasant, thanks for reposting it danielpbarron. i skipped it in logs, because of the high tit noise
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804363 << i'm sure he can do a mean ragtime on that piano though, while kicking legs☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 18:30 trinque: this is what happens when you don't have phf's three generations of bidet before piano.
BingoBoingo: !!Up archytus_ Who is your daddy and what does he do?
deedbot: archytus_ voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/soros-makes-noise-while-preparing-for-withdrawal-from-hungary/ << Qntra - Soros Makes Noise While Preparing For Withdrawal From Hungary
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804289 << lulz of all time.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 13:38 ckang: most servers are going to that setup though
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, it's not EXACTLY no reason. gotta keep the market churning.
mircea_popescu: if they didn't do that, they'd do "euro 5"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804329 << there can't be ; set your nick enforce to on☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 15:43 avgjoe: so i'd like to ask what happens if there are other "avgjoe" logged on irc and my client change a bit the username to log me in
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804340 << approximately none. trb ran without trusted node list for years.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 16:00 avgjoe: my question is: if i add nodes that aren't on the trusted nodes list, what are the risks?
mircea_popescu: the point of trusted nodes isn't "don't link to other nodes or bad things weill happen". the point is "always have these in your connection to stay sane", because a major attack vector towards bitcoin is separation, ie get two sets of nodes adrift in different realities.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804343 << blocks are immutable by implementations ; this is both the source of the observation that "bitcoin corrupts absolutely", ie, it is superlative to anything the usg can come up with ; and the whole fucking point of the protocol in the first place. can trust evil people to do your shit, because bitcoin promises it will enforce upon them the dilemma "either be ENTIRELY impotent, or els☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 16:22 avgjoe: someone (not my server, but some other trb instance) is going to get from who these blocks?
mircea_popescu: e be a good guy".
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804350 << as he said, blocks which have no known parent in the extant blockchain are bastards. the other concept is orphans -- blocks who have a parent in the tree, but no descendents at current height.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 16:29 avgjoe: other curiosity i've not found on logs: what does it means bastard block on the debug.log?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804410 << shitoshi unhelpfully referred to ~both~ as 'orphans'☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 22:04 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804350 << as he said, blocks which have no known parent in the extant blockchain are bastards. the other concept is orphans -- blocks who have a parent in the tree, but no descendents at current height.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804401 << what's a euro 5 ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 21:36 mircea_popescu: if they didn't do that, they'd do "euro 5"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804404 << shit nodes cost wasted time. potentially infinite amts of it.☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-21 22:00 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-21#1804340 << approximately none. trb ran without trusted node list for years.
asciilifeform: plain dos vector.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, "gotta buy a new car"
asciilifeform: aa
asciilifeform sitting near usg.capitol, barking loon walks by , shouts at the top of his throat , '... i'ma tell the fucking! truth! about! what! they've done! my daddy was a commander! in ww2! with the goddamn cat! and the monkey! and reagan!'