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mircea_popescu: "At that point sort appears broken because case is folded and punctuation is ignored because ‘en_US.UTF-8’ specifies this behavior. Once specifically requested by LANG and other LC_* variables, sort and other locale knowledgeable programs must respect that setting and sort according to the operating system locale tables. That is why this is not a bug in sort, sort is doing the right thing, even if the behavior is ge
deedbot: jfw rated asciilifeform 2 << Stanislav Datskovskiy, loper-os.org, seeks the Right Thing in all matters even if it would take ten lifetimes. Has honored promises in commerce in my experience.
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/11/the-right-thing/ << The Whet -- The Right Thing
asciilifeform: i dun even grasp, mp_en_viaje , why mp_en_viaje et al are in 'omfg wat-do' mode. the Right Thing to do , per mp_en_viaje's handbook, and all written tradition, is ~exactly~ this.
asciilifeform: if asciilifeform in fact hypnotized people into taking up his charlatanry, then the Right Thing is a '-10 : effectively scammed me for 7y out of grip of realty' from erryone who agrees.
mod6: I'm not 100% positive either, but if feels like that's the right thing.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: ty, making sand with a 5lb hammer sounds like the right thing. Also fun.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 22:43:04 asciilifeform: incidentally, if yer going full throttle w/ selectables , the Right Thing imho would be to take it all the way and make items like this actually display (if reasonably compact.. config knob?) the linked text. a la old man ted nelson's 'transclusions' concept .
asciilifeform: incidentally, if yer going full throttle w/ selectables , the Right Thing imho would be to take it all the way and make items like this actually display (if reasonably compact.. config knob?) the linked text. a la old man ted nelson's 'transclusions' concept .
asciilifeform: imho The Right Thing there would be to build new array on dulap-spare , w/ cuntoo. ( naturally after crate flies )
asciilifeform: trinque: per mircea_popescu's spec, it aint a bug. ( and to switch it off, imho The Right Thing is simply to look against list of bots )
asciilifeform: re 'htaccess' tho, imho the cut was correct, 'deny errything but what is explicitly permitted in the config' is the Right Thing, rather than 'make user specify per-dir'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: yest.'s episode cemented in my head the insufficiency of my orig. 'aggression' patch. i strongly suspect The Right Thing is some variant of ben's. with the orig., node eats 5-10 blox when connects to trb peers on restart, then the connections stable and gets nomoar for hours. whereas on ea. restart, in facts gets the 5-10.
asciilifeform: imho the Right Thing for this problem domain would be a tmsr-baked script lang built from ground, like-this . but so far no one has the free hands.
spyked: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-25#1930885 <-- imho the right thing would be to eventually steal "everything". i'ma definitely do that for hunchentoot, tho I expect it'll take a while, given that I keep stumbling upon binaries and utfisms in these coads
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-23#1930317 << this is The Right Thing (it dun need 'latency measurer' or any of that!) but only ~half~ . rip out the cl-irc thing.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-15 21:19:29 asciilifeform: why the fuck is this even a good idea ? to support arbitrary liquishit in logs ? imho the Right Thing would be 'if you want yer logs imported or echoed, put'em into utf8 or stuff up arse' .
asciilifeform: why the fuck is this even a good idea ? to support arbitrary liquishit in logs ? imho the Right Thing would be 'if you want yer logs imported or echoed, put'em into utf8 or stuff up arse' .
mp_en_viaje: could take a shape and produce the functionals. that's not even here NOW, in spute of how fucking obviously the right thing it was cca 1989 ie 30 years ago -- all the
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-29#1920602 << the us mostly used the oil domestically (for lack of practicable avenue of export, nobody nearby could afford to pay or had any use to it). pre-ww2 us is basically an exercise in doing the right thing by accident, like a man auditioning for the job of being the dirtiest man in the world having an accidental altercation with a garbage truck, six angry chimney sweeps and an oil slick onthe way there. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: the resistive load is nothing short of immense, for some reason anything's preferred to doing the right thing.
bvt: hello. i am also sorry for my unacceptably low output over past ~2 months; and particularly sorry of not doing the right thing of notifying the forum (which i did before)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, sounds like The Right Thing
asciilifeform: aha. and among these, quite a few like this, where the Right Thing was not found specifically cuz it was not available at the ~scale~ of the demo model.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: why which ? why open sockets by talking to linux ? i agree, the Right Thing would be a cltron that drives nic directly etc.
mp_en_viaje: so i suppose the right thing to do, if ever swallowed by some mastoton or w/e, is drop one's pants and fuck the damned thing's gullet.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 14:11 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909401 << whatever else can be said re bolix -- they had the Right Thing pill for this. 'yes you can build a c proggy on this iron; no it won't win you 'speed'.'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909401 << whatever else can be said re bolix -- they had the Right Thing pill for this. 'yes you can build a c proggy on this iron; no it won't win you 'speed'.' ☝︎☟︎
phf: amusingly it doesn't do the right thing when the message is from a bot
asciilifeform: i would've added row/column lines , to cut down propagation delay when you bake internal bus, but it's moar or less exactly The Right Thing as-is
a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 14:43 phf: i spent (mostly another whisperer and myself did) on getting vlm stable, and i'm unconvinced that some of the issues we encountered were purely "buggy vlm". there is, for example, a crash in floating point instruction that happens when you load document examiner on stock piratebay opengenera. i have no explanation for it still, because vlm code ~seems to do the right thing~. there are other similar instances
asciilifeform: ^ the Right Thing.
mircea_popescu: that, sadly, was unsupportable, correctness be damned. and if you ain't gonna do the right thing, iliescu's way the fuck better a schelling point than herpitty-derp&co.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-20 15:57 asciilifeform: the Right Thing will look roughly like a 256kB chunk of asm that the box boots straight into, and afterwards forgets that it's an x86, arm, etc.
asciilifeform: the Right Thing will look roughly like a 256kB chunk of asm that the box boots straight into, and afterwards forgets that it's an x86, arm, etc. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-13 19:05 asciilifeform: 'Tarrio believes that unless President Donald Trump steps in, the de-platforming and dehumanizing of conservatives will continue. “He needs to step in, not only because if he doesn’t he will lose in 2020 with all of his supporters being kicked off social media, but because it’s the right thing to do,” Tarrio finishes.' << lol!!
asciilifeform: 'Tarrio believes that unless President Donald Trump steps in, the de-platforming and dehumanizing of conservatives will continue. “He needs to step in, not only because if he doesn’t he will lose in 2020 with all of his supporters being kicked off social media, but because it’s the right thing to do,” Tarrio finishes.' << lol!! ☟︎
diana_coman: confirmed: with --RTS=sjlj, it does the right thing and actually aborts
asciilifeform: i dun have a dispute re the principle, it's The Right Thing.
mircea_popescu: there's of course an abundance of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-26#1890099 ; but as much as 15 maybe even 20% of the clickers simply do the right thing, go to trilema./ ☝︎
asciilifeform: so , my spec was 'all operators do The Right Thing arithmetically, and program stops if you demand div0' , like yer cpu does.
asciilifeform: this is the place where slow an' careful is the Right Thing.
asciilifeform: it has strong smell of The Right Thing, but i cannot claim to have nailed down precisely how it oughta go, just yet.
asciilifeform: ( and imho it's quite obvious what The Right Thing is )
asciilifeform still hopes to see phf Do The Right Thing
diana_coman: anyway, trinque your script is actually doing the right thing as far as I can tell for now
asciilifeform: phf's mechanism did The Right Thing tho, a++, ty phf
phf: err vdiff foo where inside foo you have multiple folders. it's tied to whether or not those parent folders a and b should be implicit, and if vdiff should do the right thing in that case, or keep it all explicit and require the creation of a and b top level folders always.
asciilifeform: imho the minimal .c glue is actually The Right Thing while we're still stuck on unix
asciilifeform: and hence prolly also is The Right Thing for other space-constrained applications, e.g. udptronic gossipd
asciilifeform: imho it's the Right Thing.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: btw the LSB/MSB/LMSB thing can be made slightly clearer / less-ctronic by actually making'em into 1-bit members of the record; gnat will do The Right Thing re padding
asciilifeform: currently i'm in a zugzwang in re the mmap lib : the http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/extOl/?raw=true invocation form is The Right Thing, but it requires passing in a String for Path, which dun work without secondarystackism;
asciilifeform: let's reformulate this way : we want the ~net~ complexity of the orchestra to decrease. if we cannot yet decrease ~net~, the Right Thing is to at least refrain from adding, when possible.
asciilifeform: as by asciilifeform -- the pill which weighs the least, is the Right Thing, per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-25#1866148 , an absolute minimum , line for line, of os-specific liquishit, is the ticket. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-15 00:25 phf: but you would never know, because in sbcl it generally does the right thing
phf: but you would never know, because in sbcl it generally does the right thing ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( prolly The Right Thing then is to write own compat layers. for errything. but only 2 hands,sadly )
asciilifeform: this is the Right Thing, i.e. if you want a variant to exist, you gotta maintain it.
asciilifeform: it is painful, but prolly the Right Thing.
mircea_popescu: yes. but raider cannibal is much better than christian farmer. bacause raider-cannibal doesn't either think he's doing the right thing nor believe it's impossible to do something else.
mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem with "we'll permit cattle to have their usg.thing and we'll do the right thing" is that why exactly is usg getting the cheap and easy fruit ?
asciilifeform: ^ The Right Thing imho
asciilifeform: 'eink' is moar or less exactly The Right Thing for hypothetical 'thinking man's lappy'.
asciilifeform: and i'm beginning to suspect that it, or some variant thereof, is The Right Thing
asciilifeform: ~that~ is the Right Thing for cl packagetronics.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-27 17:54 asciilifeform: phf: imho your approach , i.e. dispensing with gnupatch, is The Right Thing, historically there was quite a bit of grief from gnupatch's habit of eagerly attempting to apply an invalid (by vtronic lights) but 'partially ok' by barbarian lights patch
asciilifeform: phf: imho your approach , i.e. dispensing with gnupatch, is The Right Thing, historically there was quite a bit of grief from gnupatch's habit of eagerly attempting to apply an invalid (by vtronic lights) but 'partially ok' by barbarian lights patch ☟︎
asciilifeform: imho this is the Right Thing.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: somewhere i also have glue for unix signals support, so proggy can do the Right Thing when you ctrl-c, or kill, etc. but this i'll dust off later (or if somebody has a dire need)
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:57 mircea_popescu: it seems to me to be the right thing here, "connect when you're you". otherwise, who are we talking to ?
mircea_popescu: it seems to me to be the right thing here, "connect when you're you". otherwise, who are we talking to ? ☟︎
trinque: a teenager can do the right thing.
trinque: mod6: I figure giving them the same block times is the right thing, since it's entirely true (and useful to denote) that they were all added to manifest.txt at that time
a111: Logged on 2018-09-04 15:29 asciilifeform: now what i ~have~ wanted to bake, for years nao, is a box with ~2~ jacks, that tests rsa sigs on specially-defined packets at line speed, and drops all the ones that dun pass. this is imho the Right Thing, for entirely curing the disease in question.
asciilifeform: now what i ~have~ wanted to bake, for years nao, is a box with ~2~ jacks, that tests rsa sigs on specially-defined packets at line speed, and drops all the ones that dun pass. this is imho the Right Thing, for entirely curing the disease in question. ☟︎
mod6: I can see that too, Sir. I just wanna make sure we're doing the Right Thing (tm).
Mocky: stepanov strikes me as guy trying to do the right thing for a library to be used by millions of programs, while also being resigned to the shityness of c++ and of average developer
asciilifeform: in very other noose, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/YETnd/?raw=true << this has been working for a while, and i see no harm in making it public; anyone can submit candidate factor to modulus, box will do The Right Thing depending on whether correct, etc
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 17:07 asciilifeform: prolly the Right Thing would be to have the actual logtrons ( phf's, ben_vulpes's , Framedragger's if he were still alive , etc ) sync to one another as fallback
asciilifeform: prolly the Right Thing would be to have the actual logtrons ( phf's, ben_vulpes's , Framedragger's if he were still alive , etc ) sync to one another as fallback ☟︎
asciilifeform: observe that you won't find asciilifeform posting tips an' tricks re winblowz terraforming. or anything re subj. the Right Thing to do with winblowz, is to flush it down toilet, and walk away.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-01 13:58 asciilifeform: i suspect an oddity with the linux tty subsystem. the Right Thing solution would be to find it. the alternative, ugly solution, is 1) 512 byte buffered reads 2) with timeout .
diana_coman: <asciilifeform> i suspect an oddity with the linux tty subsystem. the Right Thing solution would be to find it. the alternative, ugly solution, is 1) 512 byte buffered reads 2) with timeout . -> this is pretty much my current understanding as well
asciilifeform: i suspect an oddity with the linux tty subsystem. the Right Thing solution would be to find it. the alternative, ugly solution, is 1) 512 byte buffered reads 2) with timeout . ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-18 01:07 asciilifeform: my only disagreement was re the notion that this is necessarily The Right Thing for erry proggy, as some sort of counter to 'rmsism'
asciilifeform: phf: it will require moar massage to actually produce a compact binary, and so i did not go with it; but it is still prolly The Right Thing long-term
asciilifeform: my only disagreement was re the notion that this is necessarily The Right Thing for erry proggy, as some sort of counter to 'rmsism' ☟︎
asciilifeform: reproducible bins are The Right Thing, but it is impossible to explain ~why~ outside of the context of hand-auditability.
asciilifeform: imho dispensing with 'files as a unit' is The Right Thing, rather than complicated graph walkers. but i'ma not replay the trinque thread.
asciilifeform: ave1: this is The Right Thing, let glibc go to the bottom of the sea where it belongs.
asciilifeform: while imho this is not a 'let's do this right nao' scheme, it is prolly the Right Thing in re 'trb-i' block propagation. no moar 'block withholding' nonsense. no reason why trbi should not own ionosphere the same way mircea_popescu projected bitcoin will 'own' mains current generation capacity.
mircea_popescu: seems the ifdef approach to the problem is more in the vein of the kaballah+commentary (ie, the right thing) than in the vein of the xtian "translated scripture" + "megachurch", ie, idiocy.
asciilifeform: it is The Right Thing.
asciilifeform: phf: however it ends up defined, signing coad you could not possibly have run, and which -- given how c worx -- could contain literally ~anything~ -- can't possibly be The Right Thing
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829108 << the alternative, which would be a smaller patch, is a "setchangeaddr" RPC function. i'm leery of changing the call signatures of sendfrom and sendmany, but doing so might be The Right Thing nevertheless ☝︎
asciilifeform: and overall trinque's approach to kernels is The Right Thing (i.e. nail down the iron, and switch off modules)
asciilifeform: but the hero to actually do The Right Thing, never arose.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was always the Right Thing
asciilifeform: this is The Right Thing.