mircea_popescu: pick some people you actually care about, and connect with those. stop trying to shinohai yourself the imaginary world of where you've wrung the persons out of their deeds, and now looky there's just this pile of hallucinated freedom for you to wither atop of.

mircea_popescu: i really don't think the known failures of the "engineer" mindset need any encouragement. this whole "i'll overwhelm my horrible idiocy with supposedly worthy deeds" nonsense has little space left to frolic in.

mircea_popescu: what, they're such impervious snowflakes their deeds overwhelm their existence, is the fantasy ?

mircea_popescu: he was convicted in spain, returned to romania, where also convicted, though it's not exactly clear if of same deeds (except at the getting girls, rather than selling fuck tickets end of it) or other deeds. he applied to court ot have punishments processed together,

mircea_popescu: or you mean ~all of the deeds~ ?

mircea_popescu: so it permits indefeasible record of deeds ; something the fiat sovereigns have not yet managed.

mircea_popescu: the deed in deedbot comes from the republican system for registration of deeds. think of it as your county clerk, you can go to him to register your wedding or business or w/e.

mircea_popescu: trinque could the deedbot be strengthened with a) a rss page on the site, along the lines of http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-26#319646 ; whereby i can visit http://deedbot.org/6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452/feed where all items of interest (incoming payments and invoices as well as deeds signed by me) are announced (as rsa encrypted to my key items) ?

mircea_popescu: anyway, what we have here is a tacit miss-standard, and the discussion is probably of most interest to people who aim to make their own blog thing, phf spyked whoever was looking at lisping it. because on one hand there's the older trilema standard that's web compatible, and on the other hand there's the emerging no shits given approach like on the deedbot site say, "what am i going to do now, alter deeds to mitigate sht brow

mircea_popescu: douchebag it will reject unsigned material, look at what deeds it accepted in the past.

mircea_popescu: now as to 1, i don't think it should be out of chan, on one hand because "secret" deeds plainly don't make sense ; on the other because the voice thing is ~probably~ premature in channel that is both new and customer facing. but in principle certainly could in the future have local l1 with voice model for diff channel, i think.

mircea_popescu: funny how they never seem to remember who is "the government" whenever ~they~ go around messing with it. how about bad guys === usg don't go around using mnuchin as a hand puppet to finance their bad deeds ?

mircea_popescu: i would ~really hate~ having to redo the whole deedbot stack (deeds, wot AND payments) in the manner we had to redo btcalpha when mike got sucked back into fiatlife.

mircea_popescu: let god judge his internal state, i care little past the deeds.

mircea_popescu: this is no small matter, but touching to the very trunk of the tree of wisdom. inept schoolboy hitler saw WORDS proferred by anglo-sybils in new york as DEEDS of the jews. instead of embracing germany's jews and putting forth the god-obvious "those anglo muppets are jews like ford made tin cans are cars", cut them at the knees of their entirely absent legitimacy and then let the experts (all on his side) wipe the floor with t

mircea_popescu: deeds similarly -- these words for all time./

mircea_popescu: trinque btw don't get deterred, we do want deedbot wallet before any kind of deeds search.

mircea_popescu: not unless you get chinese deeds at any rate.

mircea_popescu: why implement deeds stupidly ? dude i dunno, why does apple exist.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't see what the point for deeds is ?!

mircea_popescu: "l1" in this phraseology would be "deeds".

mircea_popescu: well i how can it be plainly observed when you didn't observe the other deeds any ; nor did the observation get recorded.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i just mean the reason it can't get crapflooded with fake deeds.

mircea_popescu: amusingly enough -- it is currently the case that deedbot's deeds list integrity is currently protected by republican design rather than by usg's "cryptographic standards".

mircea_popescu: of course im not so sure tight coupling between deeds and bills is such a good idea.

mircea_popescu: trinque well if they're deeds then i say something like !!pay http://deedbot.org/deed-451136-1.txt and deedbot responds with 451136-1.txt paid or insufficient funds or somesuch

mircea_popescu: possibly they should exist as deeds for that matter.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-02#1576727 << no, actually it isn't. the signed V element is actually a deed ; it gets maintained by an alternative mechanism than the deeds because we're still working with all this shit and trying to figure it out. but fundamentally, it is a deed not a rating. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nothing prevents me from putting in ratings as deeds ; nor anyone else. yet few do.

mircea_popescu: trinque here's a strategic point for your consideration : eulora will move to a rsa auth model sometime next year. this means the client generates itself a key, and talks to the server. i don't want to create a special deedbot for eulora, and so, how do we best interoperate them so that i have rate and deeds in-game ? (ideally the wot visualisations and other such beauty also) ☟︎

mircea_popescu: trinque can also has link to deeds, sorted by sig ?

mircea_popescu: not that it's out and out impossible, after all the bee will do what it knows in preference of all otehr deeds.

mircea_popescu: because lo and behold, the mempool of their presence and the blockchain of their past deeds are not the same exact fucking item.

mircea_popescu: if you're gonna sign it might as well dump it in the deeds. but it seems rather excessive.

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160921/#7 << the method is in the deeds ; base64-and-sign