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ossabot: Logged on 2016-06-28 10:49:54 mircea_popescu: possibly same garbage dump cisco went

ossabot: Logged on 2016-08-17 14:52:13 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform people stopped buying new cisco cca 2012 anyway.

ossabot: Logged on 2016-09-10 09:16:45 mircea_popescu: hard to properly word a "company not around" clause is the problem. according to usg, ibm and cisco are both "still around".

ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-01 22:19:01 feedbot: http://qntra.net/2020/03/cisco-lays-off-and-pivots-while-huawei-grows/ << Qntra -- Cisco Lays Off And Pivots While Huawei Grows

asciilifeform: lobbes: presently seems to me that 'distance' such as exists on net, corresponds moar closely to '# of hops through nsa cisco' rather than naive 'km of fiber'.

asciilifeform: i see no reason to suppose that usg's 'computerized' planes behave any diff. from e.g. cisco's routers. ( and the turks appear to agree , fwiw )

mp_en_viaje: so yes compiled, but ~of course~ uses vps (with any luck, "kubinetes '''deployment'''"), and also coca cola and also cisco router and also and also.

asciilifeform: soon enuff i expect cisco will be Officially mandatory in all reich telecom , like at&t gear once was pre-divestiture

asciilifeform: lol, wai would they 'yield'. usg prints moola by the gigatonne, gives'em just like gives to microshit. a++ 'biznismodel'. aand nao finally banned competing chinese router ( which, lulzily, is mostly indistinguishable from cisco in any way that matters )

asciilifeform: e.g. 'The first in San Francisco was co-hosted by CDC member Adam O’Donnell, an entrepreneur and a security engineer at Cisco Systems, and Alex Stamos, then the chief security officer at Facebook ... Chris Wysopal, a L0pht veteran who founded tech company Veracode ... Seattle fundraiser for the Senate race ... ' etc

a111: Logged on 2019-02-23 19:03 mircea_popescu: "Poking at making an open source version of the Cisco toolchain again, from publicly available sources. (No, Cisco isn't paying me to do this, most of those engineers are off for the holidays and not even answering their work email. I'm doing it because I'm disgusted with the FSF and would love to undermine Mepis II any way I can.)" << nuts.

mircea_popescu: "Poking at making an open source version of the Cisco toolchain again, from publicly available sources. (No, Cisco isn't paying me to do this, most of those engineers are off for the holidays and not even answering their work email. I'm doing it because I'm disgusted with the FSF and would love to undermine Mepis II any way I can.)" << nuts. ☟︎

asciilifeform: 'So there's a small but nonzero chance that if the suit over the Linksys build system goes to trial that I would be on Cisco's defense team working against the SFLC. Maybe even testifying in court against them. Considering I still think the SFLC is in the wrong here, I'm pretty happy with this.' << whatever happened with that

asciilifeform: Mocky: typically cisco grunts 'clearanced' not even for any interesting seekrit, but simply to be permitted on the grounds in usg dc where they cart the crates to

Mocky: cisco's hiring 2 miles down the road, "Colorful hair? Don’t care. Tattoos? Show off your ink. Like polka dots? That’s cool. Pop culture geek? Many of us are. Be you, with us! #WeAreCisco #GIS #SDx" good luck with that, lol

mircea_popescu: so communicate that, how hard can it be. "oh, cisco, so last century. white man has made even more cornell-ian cornell nao."

mircea_popescu: in any case -- our objerction to the microshit/cisco/cornell pile is that they're NOT NEARLY WHITE ENOUGH, for our tastes.

Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-19#1864270 >> I don't have everything sorted in my mind. I don't know yet what they need or perceive that they need. or how to position myself with respect to the microsoft/cisco/cornell they have respect so much. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: because we're not really into measuring shitty nat routers on cisco customer walls per se.

asciilifeform: both types suffer from the sort of brain damage where they're readily taken in by pseudorepublic, where 'bulletproof hosting' served up on cisco and advertised with rounded corners www on rails etc

asciilifeform: i dun disagree with mircea_popescu one bit, in re 'juniper/cisco Must Die'. but their death cannot be made from shoe string and bubble gum.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you understand, item by cisco/friends not amounting to a rockchip plant sells to usg.tards for 100k sorta money.

asciilifeform: they put a 4u cisco thing in the basement somewhere and it replaces whole thing

asciilifeform: ( and the linked item is typical, usually it's a laughable hardcoded pw, cisco-style )

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at your option, run new piece, and replace my 'cisco' link with yours

Mocky: I've never been, but a look at job listings for mexico city features tons of amzn, cisco, jpmorgn, ibm, honeywell etc.

a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 11:59 ascii_lander: 'we do not have isolation' is more honest than 'we have cisco-powered isolation'

a111: Logged on 2018-05-06 15:57 asciilifeform: it is in the conveyor, along with 'where from?' stat in 'factor/123' page (e.g. 'debian collection', 'cisco', etc)

asciilifeform: it is in the conveyor, along with 'where from?' stat in 'factor/123' page (e.g. 'debian collection', 'cisco', etc) ☟︎

mircea_popescu: yeah, they lost that whole thing. intel's getting cisco'd.

asciilifeform: ( other items in phuctor conveyor : display of info re factor in the per-factor pg ( e.g. http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/factor/5223 ) when something interesting is known about it -- e.g. 'debian collection', 'nsa.mikrotik', 'cisco', etc

ascii_lander: 'we do not have isolation' is more honest than 'we have cisco-powered isolation' ☟︎

ascii_lander: afaik nobody other than cisco and juniper, neither of which i will deal with, sells this item as a prepackaged product.

mircea_popescu: in other openssl gets prizes, today cisco got lenin prize for secure communications.

mircea_popescu: trinque talk about "octet quad too hard". check THIS shit out ; i expect qualification here actually exceeds cisco qual.

asciilifeform: rather than waiting for 10,000km of usg.cisco and usg.fiber relays to churn.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-19#1726719 << here's model : intel box B behind cisco switch S. NSA N sends magic packet M. S notices packet it received does not match rules operator O set ; S notices M matches rules N baked in and so S lets packet M pass in spite of this breaking its submission to O. B receives packet M, acts accordingly, breaking its submission to O. perhaps B also responds, with packet M'. S notices M' does ☝︎

BingoBoingo: Own in the sense I manage the settings on the appliance instead of trusting DC to not assign the task to their jolo. And at desired connection speeds switch handles the routing, unless you wanna go Cisco.

asciilifeform: ( after which xilinx & altera market will look like cisco's -- tame idjits only )

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-30#1706402 yes, but you also think openssh would be tested before using. was not. debian tested before using. was not. cisco routers tested ; not. pantsuited hilarity mail setup ; not. and so on. ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( notice how cisco is 'in business as usual', wholly disconnected from whether any actual people would even conceive of buying from it )

mircea_popescu: not cisco right ? that's good.

erlehmann: > Last weekend, in an attempt to get Sky's NOW TV video player (for Mac) to work on my machine, I noticed that one of the Cisco executables contains a private key that is associated with the public key in a trusted certificate for a cisco.com sub domain.

mircea_popescu: (i don't mean, item you buy from cisco. i mean, computer.)

asciilifeform: d 1513671; and by a gift from Cisco. P. Lou was supported by the Rachleff Scholars program at the University of Pennsylvania. We are grateful to Cisco for donating much of the hardware used for our experiments.'

asciilifeform: i suspect that if either baikal or elbrus ~existed~ in commercially relevant qtys, it would handily corner the 'fuck cisco and usg crapolade' market worldwide

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "not on cisco equipment" part == "incompatible nic".

asciilifeform: 'Whitelist-only networking may help contain the vulnerability, provided of course that it's not implemented on Cisco equipment.' sounded like it was about lan filtration, so not same idea

Framedragger: not sure if falun gong really had done much at that point. but cisco wiretapping was used to track 'em down and kill 'em

Framedragger: i still say 'fuck you cisco' for pitching (and later selling) customised surveillance infrastructure to china by saying that its shit can "combat ‘Falun Gong’ evil religion and other hostiles" (sic)

asciilifeform: 'Cisco's WebEx extension (jlhmfgmfgeifomenelglieieghnjghma) has ~20M active users, and is part of Cisco's popular web conferencing software. The extension works on any URL that contains the magic pattern "cwcsf-nativemsg-iframe-43c85c0d-d633-af5e-c056-32dc7efc570b.html", which can be extracted from the extensions manifest. Note that the pattern can occur in an iframe, so there is not necessarily any user-visible indication of what is

asciilifeform: also lulzy is the visible to naked eye disjunction between the 'sv world' (the cisco phones) and ye olde Golden Toilets That Worked (the raytheon thing)

mircea_popescu: what next, cisco networking hardware ?

mircea_popescu: of course this leads them to buying no less than two cisco 5596UP. that's 25 grand.

mircea_popescu: can we say #cisco or wut.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> basically, the whole medieval period lived on hobo wine. cheap, sweetened, etc. the exact thing, midnight thunder or w/e it's called. << Thunderbird, Night Train, Mad Dog, Wild Irish Rose, and Cisco. RIP Ripple.

BingoBoingo: The legally mandated disclaimer on Cisco reads: "This is not a wine cooler 8 servings"

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ripple, the us take on amontillado ? << Nah, that's Cisco http://www.bumwine.com/cisco.html

asciilifeform: https://archive.is/qZNlh << aaaaand elsewhere in lulzdom, 'Leaked NSA hacking tools are now being used on Cisco customers, according to the tech giant. The company published an advisory on Friday saying that NSA grade hacking tools are now being used against customers.'

mircea_popescu: hard to properly word a "company not around" clause is the problem. according to usg, ibm and cisco are both "still around".

asciilifeform: 'Hungary-based security consultancy SilentSignal has ported a public exploit to newer models of Cisco's Adaptive Security Appliance (ASA). .... The exploit was restricted to versions 8.4.(4) and earlier of ASA boxes and has now been expanded to 9.2.(4).'

mircea_popescu: html5 had a fighting chance as "not just text" ; it lost. this shit is dumber still, with a larger ground to cover still, with less talent and intellectual capacity involved ; and with the corporate nonsense that formed the original impetuus, from apple "app store" to cisco via intel/amd fritzchips etc dying left and right. the bottom's already fell out of apple store, there's no revenue made, and all these idiots can go back

asciilifeform: ( the thing that is not clear to me is what part of this leak prevents even a single parcel from being intercepted, with old ~or~ new cisco rubbish in it, and patched to admit the cock, supposing any of these devices even ~need~ such treatment, given that the master keys are escrowed already )

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform people stopped buying new cisco cca 2012 anyway.

asciilifeform: i even believe in the authenticity of the cisco crud, it is simply not esp. interesting

asciilifeform: 'scripts' is misnomer, these are docs, mainly concerning the patching of fw in proprietary shitware (e.g., cisco, fortinet)

mats: don't remember if i mentioned this, but a friend of mine that works at cisco says their calea team is expanding the scope of their work beyond what's in the letter of the law

mircea_popescu: possibly same garbage dump cisco went

fromphuctor: in particular i have the SUSPECT that router from juniper and cisco might build random keys that are not random at all

mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 here's the problem with "Bitcoinos" : you will want it adapted for bitcoin needs, which necessarily means it won't be your tool of choice for doing almost anything else, which necessarily means maintaining it will be a pain in the ass. << agree. I think that what I'm getting at is maybe it ends up being like cisco ios.

asciilifeform: ments to this work come from Accenture, ANZ Bank, Cisco, CLS, Credits, Deutsche Börse, Digital Asset Holdings, DTCC, Fujitsu Limited, IC3, IBM, Intel, J.P. Morgan, London Stock Exchange Group, Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group (MUFG), R3, State Street, SWIFT, VMware and Wells Fargo.'