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boolcrap: stas you remember how to calculate base from segment selector and gdt in x64?
boolcrap: well, windows still uses fs and gs as general purpose registers
boolcrap: pointer to the datastructure that contains all the information about current threads and crapola
boolcrap: hrm , let me go thru this one again.
boolcrap: hrm, this is pretty nice - but nope.
boolcrap: speaking of, didnt they just let hinkley out?/
boolcrap: hrm, i think they should have charged jody foster with accomplice to murder
boolcrap: this watermelon is amazing stas
boolcrap: it didnt squeal but it popped open as soon as i stabbed it
boolcrap: you got a solid american education stas
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phf: mircea_popescu: you know they made scateboards in su, my dad brought me one from tallinn, because he was obsessed with Estonia, but i'm pretty sure by mid 80s they made them all over
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phf: rula was the estonian brand, and they started making them at least in 70s
mircea_popescu: well i had no idea. these things... they're kinda group run.
phf: i'm pretty sure only reason we had it is because tallinn was closest my dad could get to not-ussr, so he'd buy up whatever cool shit he could find
mircea_popescu: anyway - i'm so impressed with you lot actually chewing through that turd, i'm writing the next part.
phf: what they call "crosscountry" here is of course winter sop in moscow
mircea_popescu recalls this lulz where country girl married rich british fellow who had two kids ; who came to visit.
mircea_popescu: girl's father had aro (huge bulky suv from the 70s, could go through swamp) and boat. you know, like that, boat, on land
phf: yeah, main reason i got back to moscow every other winter. "why are you going to russia in winter? isn't it cold? lol!" shut. the. fuck. up.
mircea_popescu: so anyone recall the spot in the logs many years ago where i explained to iirc trinque that the great sex mutation was most likely driven by the introduction of speech ?
☟︎ phf: what i don't understand is where all the "cool kids" are during summer break? why not go play with them then so you don't have to catch up every time?
phf is really involved in the story, "go little weird short guy, go!"
mircea_popescu: btw, it's entirely self-justificatory nonsense. i have personally verified short stature does not per se negatively impact the shorty's prospects.
mircea_popescu: cuz like this : what's incidence of dude being under 5 feet ? then how come like the best caporegime i ever had was like 4 9 ?
mircea_popescu: well, in the literal sense, it's a mafia term denoting this dude who operates independently. but in the figurative sense here used, the idea is that you compare incidence as of the biological phenomenon with incidence as invidivuals-who-are-short-and-also-have-x.
mircea_popescu: yes, but in the observation that X was exceptional is not included the proof that Y is not.
mircea_popescu: the point was, is shorty bar to performance. we find shorty is no bar to performace. other bars may and indeed do exist, sure. so worry about those.
trinque: can't argue from general case to make comments about the exceptional
mircea_popescu: i won't consider short chicks ; at least in theory (though say chet was a shorty).
mircea_popescu: the only magic trick in all this is, how is speaker viewing self. if speaker has already decided is not exceptional ; then argument "shorty was exceptional - i'm not" can be brought ; but obviously the heuristic indicates the problem's somewhere else ; if however speaker hasn't made such decision, then the argument can't be logically brought. and we know whether speaker has or hasn't made such a decision by whether he brings
mircea_popescu: i meant "female logic" in the sense of "how does she magically wiff out the loser".
a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 01:43 mircea_popescu: so anyone recall the spot in the logs many years ago where i explained to iirc trinque that the great sex mutation was most likely driven by the introduction of speech ?
a111: Logged on 2015-06-22 20:01 mircea_popescu: there is a deep link between sex and communication, not least of all because sex is the communication of biological material.
mircea_popescu: not to mention that now that we talk about it, scholar of the future has a way to know what to dig for.
mircea_popescu: because references everywhere! that phf added hand thing was geniusz
mircea_popescu: o, speaking of which, perhaps the best fucking ever pua in action, lemme fish out the link
mircea_popescu: (last one's actually his gf, has a bitch of a time trying to not laugh. because it's fucking impossible with the idiot.)
trinque: another one of those got brutally pwnd recently.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> nearest, i think, would be BingoBoingo . << But apparently you have odd impressions of middle west. Love Chicago, the worst Middle West has to offer and refuse to give rest of it the time of day.
☟︎ trinque: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel seems foolish to be doing so much work on mcclim without maintaining a presence here.
trinque: vps can be had for 5/mo; presumably you're still eating during this vagabond phase
a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 02:43 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> nearest, i think, would be BingoBoingo . << But apparently you have odd impressions of middle west. Love Chicago, the worst Middle West has to offer and refuse to give rest of it the time of day.
BingoBoingo: What's wrong with the 1890's buildings in East St Louis?
trinque: there was lolmart even in san jose this weekend.
trinque: and a smattering of american fast food. I was surprised how much.
trinque: saw plenty of obeasts there. it's spreading.
trinque: "no es un pais pobre" is not solely argentine
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Nah not talking about St Louis, but East St Louis. North St Louis also has substantial 1890's buildings
mircea_popescu: trinque it's cheap. eating on budget more and more of a problem.
trinque: mircea_popescu: speaking of coping with poverty, saw a guy selling ring pops in the middle of the road. guy on a motorcycle paid him and immediately popped in his mouth.
trinque: I'm curious what drug that might've been
trinque: wasn't so curious to buy one :p
mircea_popescu: what drugs do you ingest in broad daylight on a bike anyway. sugar ?
trinque: girl with me thought it was as innocent as that.
mircea_popescu: nfi who the fuck even buys that sort of thing ; half the names i never heard of befoar.
mircea_popescu: anyway, do publish, your blog gets too little material as it is.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 03:10 asciilifeform: gentlemen: any among you happen to own one of the 'stars' of the tard-ssh round-up ?
mod6: Bang bang, he shot me down, bang bang, that awful sound, bang bang... << this
mod6: looking forward to part II. :]
mod6: One of these times, I've got to circle back around and re-read the older ones. So many gems.
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trinque questions the humanity (and even fleshiness) of those that arrive but do not speak.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: btw i have all the version banners (for all the hosts in the ssh keyset) stored, probably a good idea to make that available i guess?
Framedragger: (i was originally planning to do some analysis myself sooner than later, but ended up enjoying summer too much)
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shinohai: heya t2yax did you submit your key to a public keyserver?
thestringpuller: i didn't think i needed a "production" set up to run a bitcoin node
thestringpuller: not that I mind, but hey the big blockers told me i can synch easy on current tech!!!!1111
shinohai: I had to instruct him on how to submit key to public keyserver
thestringpuller: seeding eulora with da n00bs is an interesting process as it requires WoT registration
shinohai: I'm pretty impressed someone made it this far, so far my replies have required lots of crayons.
t2yax: $register A28D33C4DDC87533BA1A9EE53DDAB37948261874
deedbot: A28D33C4DDC87533BA1A9EE53DDAB37948261874 registered as t2yax.
thestringpuller: shinohai: eventually when you can use eulora to purchase soma, the cypherpunk n00bs will flow in SnowCrash style. Or I guess Ready Player One?!?
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t2yax: 5 min left for game
t2yax: and also i wanna change my irc password
shinohai: t2yax: /msg NickServ SET PASSWORD <newpass>
t2yax: so what should i do ?
mircea_popescu: t2yax same program that made your key lets you decrypt that message.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 11:37 Framedragger: (i was originally planning to do some analysis myself sooner than later, but ended up enjoying summer too much)
t2yax: i will save that as text file
t2yax: now i have Yeni Metin Belgesi.txt.out
t2yax: its like a username and password
t2yax: so how to open game
t2yax: but its closing right after opening :(
mircea_popescu: ahhh the explosive breath of this channel. all the way from ssh 0days to opening game via .bat
shinohai: It also helps if you curse Erdoğan 3 times for shitty internet.
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t2yax: when i look at bat file
t2yax: its need to be placed at :C
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t2yax: i got openal32.dll eror
t2yax: where to get it and place it ?
mircea_popescu: t2yax it's part of your nvidia driver, or should be. is your video card driver up to date ?
diana_coman: is that elliot rodger guy still alive (well, as much as he ever was) - might be about time to get him to join eulora; it has COOL cookies
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mircea_popescu: diana_coman he died in 2014 ; killed a buncha girls at uc santa barbara
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 21:38 asciilifeform: the 'keys rating keys' thing does not yet exist.
diana_coman: his "writing" can kill more than a bunch for sure
t2yax: those are driver files mircea
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect it's very convenient muppet. has entirely nothing to do with anything of political interest, or for that matter this world.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the way it goes in my head reading it is something like "why doesn't this fucking spider walk away. o wait, ITS A SPIDER."
diana_coman: I suppose I don't have the same amount of patience with spiders; and certainly no qualms killing them if they don't get out of the way; I read about half the first part and then really skipped through it and still felt that I lost too much of my time on it
diana_coman: well, your notes provide good places to stop and read a bit actually: kind of like signposts here, look at THIS shit - a gem of a shit in a tedious shit
a111: Logged on 2015-10-10 13:15 mircea_popescu: their issue is with the WILL. car deaths are "accidents". that's ok. just as long as nobody gets what they WANT libertard is happy.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman it's really not much of a general interest piece ; amateur and professional entomologists only.
mircea_popescu: sooo, /me taught girl about cheese ; maybe a coupla years ago. now /me goes to the fridge, there's epic stuff in there didn't evne know existed in this country.
diana_coman: for some reason the whole thing did trigger one old memory of a classmate in the 4th grade who shouted through tears: WHY do they all go to congratulate you for winning instead of consoling me for losing; having also observed quite a lot of small children recently, I would be inclined to think this guy was just stuck somewhere around a *very* little age and that is that
mircea_popescu: key brain structures apparently failed to mature past ~30 months.
mircea_popescu: in feminist theory (the "mainstream" version not the "slut-friendly" fringe) THIS is the necessary and ubiquitous characteristic of all prostitutes, incidentally.
mircea_popescu: characteristically, it shares a lot with traditional doctrine re females ("utterly dumb in the sense of actually devoid of a soul / humanity spark") ; apud classical greeks.
diana_coman: something like that; I find it more damning though that apparently nobody around him either noticed anything of the kind or otherwise take any meaningful action on it
mircea_popescu: incidentally, that diana_coman , otherwise the soul of benevolence and peacibility, is talking of smushing and killing keenly reminds me of an older trilema article ;
mircea_popescu: diana_coman the reason they "didn't notice" / "didn't take action" is that they're "modern democracy liberal civilised people" which is to say that strange sect of neopuritanism which believes from is both necessary and sufficient ; don't curse and you'll go to heaven ; don't say nigger and you'll get promoted ; don't meaningfully talk or actually interact with your children and they'll go to college.
diana_coman: the last part I suspect is just that they don't meaningfully talk or actually interact with anybody simply
diana_coman: but myeah, I guess that article makes sense
PeterL: I thought somebody here suggested "The White Guard" by Mikhail Bulgakov, but I can't find it in logs now. Anyway, I recently finished it, was pretty good book.
mircea_popescu: see, if this guy was ever so slightly less broken, he'd have survived a coupla years more with a cloak of semblance of normalcy covering him ; and consequently acquired both a love of 12yo girls and the deep cowardice that's universally the mark of hte pedo.
mircea_popescu: and they see it as cardinal sin to attempt to fix. ESPECIALLY if it seems to work.
mircea_popescu: then they get truly irate ; if it doesn't look like it possibly could they're just displeased.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, but keeping them alive is one thing, at the end of the day I can keep whatever I want alive in a jar on my windowsill
mircea_popescu: though in fairness i must say, nothing anyone did or didn't do could have helped this kid. he is the definitionally patibulaire
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, that may be, although I suspect it's not true per se: sure, nothing could have been done to make him something else than he was; plenty could have been done to allow him to die happy for instance instead of giving him that responsibility too; moreover there was plenty to be done to help everyone else basically; what asciilifeform says
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wouldn't have been judged fit for service since 1800s
☟︎ mircea_popescu: diana_coman kid is lacking the hardware. you can make a seeing child learn to read ; you can fit glasses to a "retarded" kid that's just myopic and let them catch up to their normal level. you can not teach reading to child born withou eyes.
shinohai: Looks like a face that would have made a great career transexual though.
mircea_popescu: shinohai to continue the discussion : yes, a little less cursed he'd have made a great pedo ; and a little less cursed than that even, he'd have made a great homosexual.
mircea_popescu: notice that his attachment to boys as described reads cvasi as it is.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I did NOT say to teach him anything; precisely my point: nothing to do to make him something else than he was (or rather: wasn't); what I meant by plenty to do starts with NOT pretending he is a fine child like all the rest, let's get him to college, give him a car etc
mircea_popescu: (for this discussion we distinguish between "homosexual = man incapable of forming deep connections with women" and everything else ; fucking men is not even contemplated for criteria as such.)
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i wish to meet the father that actually does this.
☟︎ diana_coman: you mean you think that's a biological impossibility for some reason? as otherwise it's still basically a broken culture thing at most and so what asciilifeform said, but not exactly "nothing anyone did or didn't do"
mircea_popescu: it's not the culture that fucked up rodger. he would have been broken in any culture.
mircea_popescu: it's just that his extremely rare make-up (as it's rare for kids this dysfunctional to survive the cunt's regexpes) allows us to examine THAT culture in an exotic light
mircea_popescu: and so he serves us in the sense a "stray torpedo" helps the navy that launched it if it happens to hit "something" that "wasn't supposed to be there"
diana_coman: he was broken to start with (or in a more charitable view one might be inclined maybe to think that some actual interaction when he was tiny etc - but that is a matter of hope rather than anything else)
mircea_popescu: amusingly, if the "brain scan" approach were science, this kid would look so deeply evident on a scan...
mircea_popescu: but as it is, it's just a shorted clock bus. chip looks exactly like any other, everywhere, except it won't even remotely boot.
diana_coman: the way I read asciilifeform's point of bringing culture in was that it's culture responsible for the outcome of there being a broken kid; not for the fact he was broken, not for the fact he existed in the first place; simply and strictly for he's specific end
diana_coman: uhm, haven't really searched this but do you mean that there are similar shootings all other the world? can't really be that this kind of broken is to be found in the us alone
mircea_popescu: i also seem to recall a dude that burned some building in athens.
shinohai: Well there was Pekka-Eric Auvinen
diana_coman: aha; why the need to go back so much in time though?
mircea_popescu: also not a need ; but it serves my stand better the larger diversity there is in the examples.
diana_coman: dunno if I really buy Nero being the same kind of broken; might need to brush up on it in this light at least out of curiosity
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i don't buy nero-the-historical-character either ; but my point is that the description of him from ancient sources hostile is mendacious in a certain way, which certain way supports my view in that it makes it plain the ancients were aware of the type.
mircea_popescu: calling nero that type may be slander ; that it seemed to the pinoy at the time the more credible slander is instructive.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, eventually the rest of the decerebrated body calls for apoptosis.
mircea_popescu: which is by definition an universal apocalypse from the subjective view.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 14:33 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wouldn't have been judged fit for service since 1800s
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because insane. even in voltaire, cca 1750, there's an evident awareness of candide's probable fate in army.
mircea_popescu: they wouldn't know enough about it. consider gomer pyle's fate in (the very fem-driven, castrated) us army.
mircea_popescu: fragging officers exists BECAUSE of the practice of killing rodgers.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 14:26 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: being run over by a 2-horse carriage at age 7 would have helped.
mircea_popescu: hey, nobody disputes that "human life is supreme value" is a recipe for utter disaster of the foulest, worst smellijng kind.
mircea_popescu: also consider - someone like the young rodger is the result of careful selection over the generations.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well yes, because you're politically engaged. i'm sure the nazi "victims" of special forward batallion inspired a lot more revulsion in liberated population than the perpetrators.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the "problem" at the time was ~nobody was taking russians, soviets or stalin seriously.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> also consider - someone like the young rodger is the result of careful selection over the generations. <- thing is: if ancients were aware of the type, this selection thing is not really that relevant: there probably always was, there always will be
mircea_popescu: diana_coman hip displasia also "always was, and always will be".
diana_coman: the only difference that I see and I was putting on the shoulders of culture is that at that time this kind of broken was acknowledged for what it was and used accordingly
diana_coman: or rather: at *this* time it isn't acknowledge nor used accordingly
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he is a notably broken example of the human race.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I meant it as broken human, not broken american
diana_coman: I suspect that is what asciilifeform prefers to consider
diana_coman: I would however put forward the fact that a 2 year old is perfectly capable of shooting someone with a pistol
diana_coman: also asciilifeform for all you know those who actually died did NOT do the "dictionary speech" while precisely those who survived did
mircea_popescu: "behold, all engines have a cracked cylinder : they all sound ; and the diagnosis of the cracked cylinder was made by sound".
mircea_popescu: seems in his case it was more of "emotional territory"
mircea_popescu: ie, like sioux killing rando mpeople because "he feels" that the towns streets are on "indioan land"
diana_coman: I was only briefly in Boston some ..hmmm, 6-7 years ago
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, i suspect that is necessary stage in english evolution towards chinese.
mircea_popescu: soon they'll start marking down the long copulative names with drawings
mircea_popescu: then we'll sit around and wonder idly why all the usians are uncreative and eat wheat
diana_coman: that actually reinforces the point that by these standards a 2 year old who shoots someone (he found a new toy, pulled the trigger to see what) has equally woken up: chances are that they shoot dictionary speech people if that is the norm for people
diana_coman: so then in what sense exactly did the guy wake up?
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: I must admit. Your Twitter polls actually make a person think before answering...
diana_coman: from out here the butthurt re pistol/guns seems an entirely american thing really
diana_coman: as I said: "could have been done" has nothing to do with putting away the pistol/guns and all to do with finding the right place for the guy, be that 10m in the ground, "jar" or whatever else
diana_coman: true that; my thought there was informed by the fact that a 2 years old can be happily kept occupied with perfectly-adequate stuff IF someone points them to it; on the other hand if left on their own, they will ~always find a destructive thing to do
☟︎ diana_coman: the 2yo himself basically is the main thing that "could break"
a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 15:28 asciilifeform: there are no postalists in places with sane population density, and sane degrees of millimortage/diem.
diana_coman: what I mean is that they will inevitably take on something that is bound to end quite badly for themselves first of all
diana_coman: because they can't evaluate really AND they are frail at the end of the day
shinohai: Thinning of biomass currently underway at American University in Kabul, stay tuned.
mircea_popescu: well looky : the practical definition and the theoretical definition have no good reason to match.
mircea_popescu: it's not entirely evident meaning works in the way you wish it to.
mircea_popescu: they also left record declaring themselves "supreme gentlemen"
mircea_popescu: which is a ridiculous thing for a mixed blood burgher from the colonies to even aspire to, let alone pretend to.
mircea_popescu: not all virgins are the same virgin in the way all whores are the same whore.
mircea_popescu: similarly not all functions that return nil are equal in the way all functions that return 4 are equal
mircea_popescu: but if i start walking around the beatitudes a l'abbe de notre dame de courants d'air, i'll let you know.
mircea_popescu: (which, incidentally, is a major cornerstone of all religious faith. which is why it's important that jesus "also man")
mircea_popescu: also, in its dubious definition as scrawled by hands evidently more fit and more used to farm work, "invcel" seems to rather resemble "invpoor", as for instance in africa, or its colonies in the us.
mircea_popescu: it's altogether not clear, for a very basic instance, that "voluntary" is contemplated to mean anything other than "i didn't give my permission for this".
mircea_popescu: monks, especially in the feminine, often don't do it voluntarily.
mircea_popescu: $google "de ma voi scula pre multi am sa popesc si eu"
mircea_popescu: ^ arguably romania's most famous monk, alexandru lapusneanu
mircea_popescu: (ie, "should i get out of here, i'll monk a few people myself!")
mircea_popescu: it's not a bad novel. stendhal's rouge&noir is also. there's more. and the east has its own.
mircea_popescu: but yes, the lines are certainly solidifying under republican pressure.
phf: which actually makes no sense, since gnupg 1.4 is designed explecitly for use in the kind of situations debian is using it. i.e. low level infrastructural verification
phf: if you were to take all the marketing materials at face value, gpg1 is for backend work, gpg2 is client facing, for user emails and such.
phf: i had some mild success with a script around gpg where on each run it would create a db in tmp/, import all keys from ~/wot ~/systemkeys ~/randomkeys etc., then run the op against that tmp db, and finally remove the db
phf: as my unix teacher used to say "i had this idea, i read it in ..."
mircea_popescu: hey, some ideas are hard enough to possess even if explained to you, rather than having to find on own.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but notice the astounding design similarity with "bitcoin wallet"
mircea_popescu: ie, elliot rodger a lot more common than previously thought.
trinque: importantly morphing, storing state in each its own unique snowflake of format
trinque: o hey look ma, made my own windows registry, but only for this one proggie
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's reasons we don't condone des. this'd be one of them.
phf: asciilifeform: i have this in my erc
http://paste.lisp.org/display/324144 erc-lurker-state is internal hash that erc maintains on its own of people who have talked in the last 24h by default, people not in that list are considered lurkers. you can use erc-lurker-hide-list to hide certain messages from lurkers in my case JOIN/PART/QUIT, the extra erc-display-message advice is to send those message to server buffer instead of totally
phf: something to consider :>
phf: oh, wait, what are you using?
phf: it doesn't hide, it redirects it elsewhere. to places where i rarely ever read it..
mircea_popescu: shinohai was it that originally not posted in right place ?
phf: it worked better when i had the patience to exist on large channels (#lisp for example), but now i'm checking erc-lurker-state it's the exhaustive list of all the people i even have on all of the channels
phf: 450 according to /list #lisp
phf: python is 1946, though it stopped being at all useful past 2005 or so
shinohai: mircea_popescu: the eulora post?
trinque: I have started lurking in #clim to see how gabriel_laddel's climwars are going.
shinohai: Nah it's in the same place, just finally got some attention, I went back and bumped it a few times.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the unwritten codex of the place is "nothing exists before the third bump"
phf: #lisp? it has pockets of activity, but there's a decent level of signal inforcement
shinohai: Yeah tardstalk is a strange place, at least 5 PM's already calling this a scam before the Turkish guy showed up, so now blockchain proofs.
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mircea_popescu: "<audrow> pipping: I see. Femlisp seems good. I think femlisp, LLA, and GSLL meet my requirements. Do you have any idea how to compare the performance of various libraries, short of trying them all?" << ok, i must say i am deeply impressed with those snr enforcement measures :D
mircea_popescu: "these women seem like they may be what i want to fuck. any way to know which i'd enjoy without actually fucking anything ?"
mircea_popescu: dude who wants benchmark and doesn't have own benchmark is a strange construction.
abrr: hi i am here for 0.01 BTC bitcoin talk
a111: Logged on 2014-08-27 01:00 asciilifeform: 'pardon my cynical twist, but what are you doing with that 20,000×20,000 double-precision floating point matrix you say you need to invert _today_? If you answer "nutt'n, I jus kinda wondered what it'd be like, you know", you should be very happy that I am most likely more than 3000 miles away from you, or I would come over and slap you hard.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no ; question specifically was not "where is their loop execution time listed"
shinohai: mircea_popescu well i hope you're having fun. <<< least I could do in exchange for the #trilema girl
shinohai: we talk on phone every day now lol.
abrr: what i must do for 0.01 BTC ?
abrr: how? can you explain
mircea_popescu: abrr i was talking to shinohai ; what you have to do is register your gpg key with deedbot and get the game client running. you got either of these ?
mircea_popescu: just like irl. eulora is actually ~that~ successful simulation.
shinohai: Same as owning slaves in real life.
mircea_popescu: see asciilifeform if i dig up a flotsam claim, i get flotsam quality 250ish. when they do it, quality 9.
shinohai: Which slave will happily or not-so-happily perform.
mircea_popescu: no ; it's a volume-vs-quality issue. sometimes i just need a lot of cruddy flotsam for a job ; it's wasteful to use hand carved 1700 bedposts for it, so to speak.
mircea_popescu: note that it's a very performant simulation. just like irl - "shit" is not "objectively" low value. you could, conceivably (60% shrimp world by mass) arrive in a situation where shit is in high demand ; meat not so much.
mircea_popescu: because some people (me, daniel, diana, etc) are such perfectionists, we kinda debalanced the economy to where it atm has high need of you know, plain old noobs.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this wasn't deliberate part of the design. it's just that it apparently flows from the prime principles that design rests on and implements.
deedbot: abrr voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: every other game company - makes design ; tests game. s.mg stuck making design, then trying to figure out what design is actually trying to do, so it can be tested p[roperly.
mircea_popescu: which is a loud testament of their idiocy - much harder to do BOTH world AND AI at the same time.
mircea_popescu: "oh your world won't work, demiurge" "no problem, i'll add ai to it" "idiot"
mircea_popescu: and this from someone who doesn't fwis even much care for rats.
mircea_popescu: even 1 out of 1k is a high enough bar for most people.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-23 23:23 pete_dushenski: true, having whole gang together is rather appealing tho
ben_vulpes: and if you missed the opportunity to batch it up in ars, it's probably worth the expense to do the rounds and collect 'em in person
ben_vulpes: what btw was the name of that cheapo usb sampler you linked forever ago?
ben_vulpes is not looking forward to the glorious blood sports of curating otpwads
trinque: how does it differ from simply some storage stick (usb or w/e) with otp matter?
ben_vulpes: instead of or different product from cardano?
mircea_popescu: ima bbl ; shinohai if moar noobs show up do pacify them for a few hours.
ben_vulpes: memorize everone's faces to sketch later for handlers
ben_vulpes: i can think of one that's not, anyways, 'tis a joke.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: i half-expect to hand out otp's at the next meat gathering. << werd.
mod6: i'd prefer to an enigmatic pile of crap that is gnupg
phf: asciilifeform: same problem with gnupg though, when you need to use it, you'd better be certain counterparty can opsec
ben_vulpes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-24#1528522 << "with any luck the most we can hope for is that they're tolerable company. if one's halfway qualified to be sent to more school, i'll consider myself lucky. and if we're unlucky, well, there's always the beach and teaching surfing."
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 14:36 mircea_popescu: diana_coman i wish to meet the father that actually does this.
ben_vulpes: reminds me of a conversation with the excavator operator the other day: "how'd you get your wife to let you buy a corvette?" "let?!"
☟︎ phf: well, that's not a noshit for every reader i suppose. if you gnupg with an incompetent person you might end up with things that you want explicitly hidden on record "beyond a reasonable doubt". shit if you gnupg with competent person you ought to think twice what to send, and if tradititional public premediated c&c is a better option
☟︎ phf: if traditional american police (and not even special lizard hitler goons) were to raid your house right now, while you're at work, on a suggestion that you run a drug market, and confiscate every piece of electronics&c they could get their hands on, what is the chance that they will find your key? how much trust should i put in your answer? both are obviously rhetorical questions. presumably, if we were to gpg gram, you will have to
phf: apply same heuristic to me
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: actually that's misconception that arose during the "everquest" era of bullshit
☟︎ phf: asciilifeform: which one?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-24 17:23 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand (and this is quite certainly not an expert view) most mmporg tried to use robotic 'npc' to fill this eco niche.
thestringpuller: game AI is pretty advance on most fronts, it's not trying "to be human". For instance being hunted in a stealth game. If they really wanted to, they could make the AI find you EVERY time. A game of hide and go seek that's impossible to win. So the in-between is this "puzzle-like" element.
☟︎ thestringpuller: asciilifeform: okay. so in game of hide and go seek in kojima's world. AI is like player but more liek child. It can see, it can hear, it can even smell. So if player is running in rain and footsteps appear, AI follows players trail. If AI hears suspicious noise in certain area it goes and "looks around". The thoroughness of its hunt is relative to difficulty. I was saying more if you want to go the "purist" route. You can make the hi
phf: "You can make the hi"
phf: the impossibility in this case is inverse relation to "knowing where you are", not to "ai". because making ai with limited sensors (like by say using same set of sensors as what you have) find you is a tricky problem
phf: yes, you can make ai that can smell you all through the field, but then it's equivalent to "knowing where you are", and no ai is involved. it's simply a machine that can pinpoint a location based on small with p reliability
thestringpuller: with sensors you can program the robots to find you every time
phf: thestringpuller: you're speaking with authority from not knowing, and there's no point for me to continue this conversation
phf: but if you actually believe that, there's a very lucrative Lockheed martin contract i can hook you up with
thestringpuller: you're assuming the level is of infinite complexity, that is it exists like the natural world. That's not normally the case the level is deliberately designed so the rovers that are npcs glide along it like an amusement park ride.
shinohai:
http://archive.is/I0dX8 "why should the rest of the network be crippled because you have an irrational desire to validate every single Bitcoin transaction?"
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shinohai: well BingoBoingo it looks as if our friend covertress got some Bittrex suppositories today.
shinohai: 51% attacked her coin, dumped on trex for 5.614718020889983
trinque: inb4 covertesscoin classic
shinohai: Now can only hope very speshul offer includes a $3000+ bailout
shinohai: Certainly not my type of luscious flesh, but then again I prefer brunettes.
wyrdmantis: lol shinohai who 51% attacked what coin?
shinohai: `unknown entities` and coin was the Krypton-eth-clone
wyrdmantis: the rabbit shithole run more deep than i thought
wyrdmantis: asciilifeform is that zero point energy nonsense?