mircea_popescu: esthlos : http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com/#2018-09-01_2 << "the"

mircea_popescu: "we found that the BMC code responsible for processing and applying firmware updates does not perform cryptographic signature verification on the provided firmware image before accepting the update and committing it to non-volatile storage." ☟︎

mircea_popescu: they just wanted to.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-10#1849052 << right. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in historical lulgemz, http://trilema.com/2016/young-educated-urban-anglophone-male/

mircea_popescu: "i have no money, no job, and Bernie has been the biggest political influence in my life"

mircea_popescu: oh, and in "comunismu-ntii te-ajuta, tac tac tac, si apoi te executa pac pac pac" lulz : let's open our hymn books at the roger casement page. first knighted for "exposing" "atrocities" in usg's enemies at the time (boers and whatnot), was then hanged (and declared a faggot) for proposing the germans help liberate his homeland from usg in ww1.

mircea_popescu: it so totally pays to be one of these usgistani "investigative journalists"...

mircea_popescu: (the whatnot above should probably be more explicit. let's say instead boers, belgians and whatnot)

mircea_popescu: aha.

mircea_popescu: deeply undermining usgistani "digital forensics" bs.

mircea_popescu: oh three layers!!

mircea_popescu: roflmao.

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "other successes of the failed female state", let's look at https://duckduckgo.com/?q="he+deemed+it+necessary+to+absent+himself+temporarily."

mircea_popescu: the phrase originates from a nephew of the romanian king, temporarily mbret of albania. he left during ww1, cuz actual people were doing things, exactly like a 19yo would leave the 14yos he was playing with when the cheerleaders show up.

mircea_popescu: BUT! the internet consists of a vast plurality of... EXACT COPIES.

mircea_popescu: why the fuck does the electricity need to be burned so the SAME EXACT fragment of cargo cult is repeated 50 times ?

mircea_popescu: we're approximately in the position where across the land there's museums dedicated to maintaining COPIES of original pieces of airplane fuselage fallen on the island.

mircea_popescu: truly this is a waste. turn off the web, it's weasting electricity bitcoin could put to better use.

mircea_popescu: but i mean, seriously, this particular fragment repeated verbatim dozens of times AND NOTHING ELSE ?

mircea_popescu: wtf, why even have a "web" then.

mircea_popescu: "William, Prince of Albania explained What is William, Prince of Albania? Explaining what we could find out about William, Prince of Albania. [Search domain everything.explained.today] everything.explained.today/William_of_Wied/" << check out this gem. "what they could find". guess how the could works.

mircea_popescu: this evidently works well enough for the "what does the news mean to me" crowd, seeing how the vapid "celebrities" that can't fucking spell (lulzy case in mp household recently, as girl tried to bring testimony of uma thurman re her being mistreated, only to see her charge collapse under heavy laugther at how WOMAN CAN NOT SPELL) have ~nothing to say anyway. getting a bunch of soccer players to dress up in suits and speak "th

mircea_popescu: eir opinion" to the "interviewer" evidently taxes the system, there's no substance there so it's just as well that there's no substance demanded downstream.

mircea_popescu: but i seriously do not see the need for a "web" to support this nonsense. they'd be much better served by a single pravda. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: in short : i am saying that "the problems" that naive holdouts from the 80s and 90s perceive confront "the open web" are chiefly in their imagination. the truth of the matter is that the same sort of scum that creaded the 1950s pravda in the first place are simply re-implementing it out of "web" nowadays.

mircea_popescu: so no, it's not that "apple this" and "microsoft that" and "war on web" bla bla bla. if you permit internet access to inflate, you end up with a bulk of morons who STILL have no business on the web, once theyr'e there, just like they had no business on it before they were there.

mircea_popescu: quite.

mircea_popescu: amusingly, the word itself quite well connotes this.

mircea_popescu: "why are you reading that crap ?" "because i wish to know how the news relates to me. spoiler : it doesn't." is verbatim contained in the slavic word's meaning. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: this is EXACTLY what pravda even is. it's not "truth" sole and alone like that. it's also "proofed" and "proved" and "certified" and so forth.

mircea_popescu: in being truth-which-is-self-evidently-true-and-not-open-to-doubt-on-any-possible-grounds, it then necessariyl is exactly http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-10#1849101 "truth". ☝︎

mircea_popescu: ^

mircea_popescu: imo this should be written out in prose.

mircea_popescu: yes, but it's a decreasing scale of importance. every enumeration gotta stop sometime, and imo if one's not sold by those items adding more isn't the way to go.

mircea_popescu: moreover, there's nothing wrong with incomplete lists -- let the fellow come and ask, "oh, but what about Y! GOTCHA" only to not gotcha and therefore...

mircea_popescu: republic in being. very much the same mechanism as in "you don't need a buncha paperwork for pizarro, the forum can resolve disputes for you anyway"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the way that sort of thing works (it's "business" in a very limited and marginal sense) there's two kinds of marginals involved : "idea men" and "technical wizards".

mircea_popescu: the former are a deeply atechnical sort, utterly incapable of very basic tasks such as "compare these two items".

mircea_popescu: the latter are a deeply asocial sort, utterly incapable of very basic tasks such as "exist in the world without a farcical self-secreted notion that you know what's going on".

mircea_popescu: as a result the former perceive the need but don't know how to proceed and the latter antiperceive the need and well, the blind leading the thirsty results in many salty snacks.

mircea_popescu: well, yes. in the exact sense "nobody got shot for buying ibm" : as far as IM is concerned, the marketing copy suffices, he doesn't understand the workings anyway and moreover is well inhabituated to not expect to understand.

mircea_popescu: and the TW is very vulnerable in that a lifetime spent in his own coffin swimming in the liners has produced in him this ability to self-bless. so he's going to do "some secret trick" and that'll make it all good.

mircea_popescu: because he can't rely on others, see ? the IM judges "well, there's concordance between the marketing copy on this webpage and what my TW is telling me" and the TW judges "well, nobod ycan be trusted anyway, here's my caesar cipher -- at least it is my own"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly so, concordance seeker seeks concordance. "don't tell me about disparate objects, let's compare pairs that are well matched, item-description-and-review"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno if you recall this naphex character. possibly the best illustration of the concept republic's to date known (though he was doing iirc webcams or exchangesd or somesuch, not directly casinos. but -- just as marginal a cvasi-business)

mircea_popescu: but yes, very much that's the problem, "threat of depersonalization", specifically as "what do you mean republic laughs at me and my http://trilema.com/2013/the-danger-of-homebrew-crypto/ "

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo : "Pizarro servers do not employ BMC, nor always-on KVM setups. We do not disassemble servers for any reason, so feel free to seal your boxes. Account management is done through RSA process, do not expect that you can sidestep loss of your key through social engineering. Burn Microshit, burn." ?

mircea_popescu: in #Pizarro on Freenode. << link to webthing mqay help

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform take out "for any reason" then ?

mircea_popescu: exactly.

mircea_popescu: shorter is always better.

mircea_popescu: understand : woman saying "i don't have sex" is a fine approximation of "i don't have sex [unless you convincingly ask me to]". meanwhile "i don't suck dicks without permission" connotes "well, you were passed out, i asked three times like the jews, in all directions, and as there was no answer i figured...welll... here's a dick..."

mircea_popescu: o that guy, what was his name. yeah, here you go, absolutely fine IM-TW binome. that dood and weev.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757013 << item. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756992 << compare and contrast with >> http://trilema.com/2012/power-fashion-editorii-care-au-revolutionat-moda/ ☝︎

mircea_popescu: "their power and capital". because http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623380 "never happened", especially if you wish it really hard to not have. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i suppose, in a degenerate case. my original example was "business" of a certain sort of "free man on free soil" outlook, like "online casino" or whatever other mlm-for-the-2010s things.

mircea_popescu: but i guess that was coincidental, model works quite well i nthe general, including cases such as "TW looking for IM" like say http://trilema.com/2018/and-in-todays-lulz-the-obnoxious-cocksucker/

mircea_popescu: very much like this, o'reilly-ers, or de raadt-whatever collective barnacle IM.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have personally witnessed "could not estimate laptop charger chord is not going to reach" visually, from five yards away, had to do the actual manual comparison. so yes, that's my overarching point -- IM are universally stupid in a very strict sense, unfit to lvie in world.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform see ?

mircea_popescu: why, cuz born with 8 fingers so 72 * 33 = 3036 ?

mircea_popescu: "man who has walked with crutch all life -- cripple or not ?" "we'll have to see, won't we."

mircea_popescu: no hazel grows where you live huh ? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and yet http://trilema.com/2018/the-leak/#selection-363.0-365.0 yes ?

mircea_popescu: persuasion, like all education, will be sexual.

mircea_popescu: why ?

mircea_popescu: honestly, i would expect (if your http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-09#1848929 is right, at any rate) that the republic will be mostly homosexual. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: oh, you got ~one~ of those too ?

mircea_popescu: no, actually, it worked out for the greeks for longer and with better results than any attempt at either paideia, "civilisation", "education" or anything else ever did.

mircea_popescu: note that the prussian system (which is the upper node of what contemporary dork calls "school", and it is a SYSTEM, more complex than just that) is not even 2 centuries yet.

mircea_popescu: and it did not yield much of anything at all.

mircea_popescu: because placed no demands. hence the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-10#1849184 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: note that there's a problem here. that i, personally (and not explicably) manage somehow to be sexually attractive to women less than half my age as i was to women over twice my age has very little to do with anything and i wouldn't expect it systematizable.

mircea_popescu: socrates, to take a modest example, would eminently NOT have been even remotely interesting to the kids in the kids' own terms.

mircea_popescu: there's a large component of rape involved in all education ; had the societal convention not been that "ye kids must suck an adult cock, nqa", the feeble interest socrates managed to induce even in his contemporaries would never have amounted to anything.

mircea_popescu: all knowledge is in the end unwilling. not "carnal", there is no such distinction, all knowledge is the exact same thing. and "unwilling" not in the sense of oppostion, but in the sense of defect. what exaclty is the maiden to know afore the fact about the knowledge you're about to impart on her, be it penis or math ? DEFINITIONALLY "not enough", right.

mircea_popescu: so there we go.

mircea_popescu: "because placed no demands."

mircea_popescu: girl (or, i suppose, "bottom", to not exclude spuriously half the discussion) is more than happy to go out of her skin. if you ask her to.

mircea_popescu: GOTTA ASK!

mircea_popescu: what, it's magical now ?

mircea_popescu: that's ridiculous.

mircea_popescu: by these bright lights, most math is magic.

mircea_popescu: including *10

mircea_popescu: you know, iron only replicates it TO YOUR EYES. it doesn't do it in some sort of objective sense. it only puts the corect mul in rx if you know there's a rx to look for.

mircea_popescu: so magic ?

mircea_popescu: paracetamol, similarly "we don't know how the fuck this works" doesn't meet my definition of magic -- it seems quite certain it works in the usual way, if yet the intricacy unknown.

mircea_popescu: yes but the implication of the word is that a special catalyst is needed, that's otherwordly.

mircea_popescu: whereas ignorance only needs a correctly screwed dong to fix.

mircea_popescu: well then don't say magic! say w/e, ignorance.

mircea_popescu: i do not perceive my time is strictly wasted with the phillies. unlike assembliline, assemblycunts are satisfying on a deeper level.

mircea_popescu: but yes, on occasion VERY fucking frustrating, "shit fuck piss cunt motherfucker, ima go garden instead!"

mircea_popescu: possibru.

mircea_popescu: i can't imagine what sense does this make, to put iliteracy as the gatekeepeer to technology.

mircea_popescu: what next, "eroticism is what ugly people experience" ?

mircea_popescu: technology, ipso nomine ut ipso facto excludes the illiterate.

mircea_popescu: that is what technology is -- what's left once you exclude the monkey activities.

mircea_popescu: now, as to the other horn, what is "to replicate" ? fire is a technology, no man has yet replicated any fire -- fire is necessarily, as per thermodynamic laws -- irreplicable.

mircea_popescu: "oh but mp -- i don't mean absolute replica ; functional replica suffices" "then here's my recipe to replicate fire : slap girl's cheek middling hard. it'll turn some shade of reddish blue and give off heat for a time."

mircea_popescu: "replication" is no basis ; literacy is the basis. that "replication" is the schnelling'd-upon point of ~expression~ of literate heuristics is fine and dandy. but it is no basis thereby.

mircea_popescu: why him specifically ?

mircea_popescu: dun mean he understood anything of it.

mircea_popescu: most feelers of the various rods comprehend ~nothing.

mircea_popescu: (literacy, for the sake of propriety, remains what newman defined, http://trilema.com/2013/a-very-unfair-perspective/ "to see things as they are, to go right to the point, to disentangle a skein of thought, to detect what is sophistical, and to discard what is irrelevant." hence the literacy as basis for technology, to distinguish slapping from lighting)

mircea_popescu: which is all, without exception./

mircea_popescu: no technology survives as such the end of the literate that borne it.

mircea_popescu: and the killer micro.

mircea_popescu: and... other things

mircea_popescu: "western civilisation", in a word.

mircea_popescu: all of it, really, all of it is going away. wikipedia is like a manuscript copy of olde books, that are being "referenced". the references ever dim, and soon enough the whole world of literate english will be but a dream

mircea_popescu: like the world of literate egyptian in http://trilema.com/2014/more-about-caesar-cyphers/#footnote_2_52126

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not so, it readily revives in selected young through simple exposure.

mircea_popescu: it will be, in another generation or two maybe. today not yet.

mircea_popescu: perhaps ' that "replication" is the schnelling'd-upon point of ~expression~ of literate heuristics is fine and dandy' requires some explanation. the correct wot-process ("what of x?" "a claims so but i have not found the same -- go, try for yourself") was contracted in "failed to replicate x".

mircea_popescu: the point, however, is not the "replication" itself but what it points to : "go, try for yourself".

mircea_popescu: to then take this wot-process and try to mechanize it ("instead of going and trying by self as science ie http://trilema.com/2017/is-it-still-rape-if-i-write-science-on-my-penis-first/ REQUIRES of me i shall simply say "was not replicated") is doomed to the same failure all wot-mechanization attempts are in principle doomed to

mircea_popescu: that is, to reconstruct some kind of sybil cake. which is exactly the "ourdemocracy science" with all tis hatefax and toxictruths and whatnot. because once you give up the proper wot process for some mechanized ersatz you find yourself again in the primordial mist, unable to guess where the landmines are.

mircea_popescu: "but mp -- i am not equipped to try for myself!" "then this isn't a point of interest to you, is it. why'd you have an opinion on it ?" "because we're trying to build an Empire of Science!" "how's that working out ?" "so far, Republic of Idiots works."

mircea_popescu: aaanyways, i'll bbl.

mircea_popescu: a ty

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and the answer is exactly there, "avoid at all costs this situation where you're not fucking your close social circle"

mircea_popescu: "and by fucking we mean published pictures etc, not herpi-derp coy bs"

mircea_popescu: and fixed http://logs.minigame.biz/latest.log.html issue ty

mircea_popescu: the deep meaning of the whole http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-14#1813358 / http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-14#1813371 / http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-14#1813377 / http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-09#1641162 discussion is exactly this : minds at the time INSANELY thought $object ( in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-14#1813383 sense ) is going to tell them WHO to have WHAT intercourse and HOW MUCH. ☝︎☝︎☝︎☝︎☝︎

mircea_popescu: this is utter insanity. you don't need, or want, or ever seek "mom's" permission to fuck the daugther. not yours ; not hers ; at the slightest provocation it gets burned down, and the ashes dumped in cloaca maxima.

mircea_popescu: this, and this only, is the way to prevent "tech becoming unrepeatable". it helps, of course, to have some tech in the first place ; but these are separate discussions -- fridge is how to preserve food, whether you have any food or not.

mircea_popescu: also part and parcel of this conversation, http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-software-licensing-paradigm/#footnote_2_59725 & http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1738350 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: and, of course, ultimately it all boils down to http://trilema.com/2018/discordatum-wormatiense/ : permitting temporal power to the "spiritual" maniacs is suicide.