asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform recently looked at 'lighthttpd', after it came up in the log. astonishing tanker of liquishit.
mod6: lol 'tanker'
asciilifeform: just like apache, nginx, etc. it has the microshit-quality : you can throw darts all day long and hit only things that really don't need to be there for anything sane people are likely to do with http
trinque: nginx went the venture capital route at some point, gotta justify the rounds
asciilifeform: in this particular case it wouldn't even matter if it were run by honest folx
asciilifeform: the very notion of 'production http server' that exists now, is retarded, in its baked-in conceptual support for warcrimes like ssl
asciilifeform: this 'modularity' generates considerable complexity even if unused
asciilifeform: ( this is entirely separate from the fact that all 'industrial' http servers existing nao are in megatonne of c liquishit, language with nothing resembling sane string handling )
asciilifeform: ohai BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: Hello, machines screwed in. Need to return in the morning to figure out what stupid mistake I made configuring the switch/router. Long night of reading sample configs ahead.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what exactly do the digs look like ? cage with own door ? or just rack ? or how
BingoBoingo: rack with locking door and badass mesh barrier. Like a birdcage for hannibal lecter
asciilifeform: mesh where ? the back side ?
BingoBoingo: front and back. sides are solid
asciilifeform: aa
BingoBoingo: Shit has to breathe
asciilifeform: normally this is done with vertical chimney
mod6: sounds decent BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: are you able to distinguish 'misconfiged router' from 'dead pipe' , say ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Gotta remember this is in the basement of the basement
BingoBoingo: By plugging Qntra directly into the pipe
asciilifeform: aa
mod6: Lords and Ladies of The Most Serene Republic, The Bitcoin Foundation presents The State of Bitcoin Addresshttp://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-February/000288.html
mod6: ugh
mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-February/000288.html
asciilifeform: oh hey
asciilifeform: nuffin in there about ben_vulpes's test of the sync sanity patch
asciilifeform: i can only suppose he dun have a verdict yet...
asciilifeform: ( for that matter, ben_vulpes's own logical extension of same patch , ditto )
mod6: Good question, not yet.
mod6: When we have something solid, we'll make mention of it for sure. :]
asciilifeform: in other olds, http://prog21.dadgum.com/116.html >> 'Things That Turbo Pascal is Smaller Than'
asciilifeform: e.g. 'The image of the white iPhone 4S at apple.com (190,157 bytes)' 'The touch command under OS X Lion (44,016 bytes).'
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 9520.01, vol: 13168.35666700 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 9668.5, vol: 43087.00794047 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 9488.9, vol: 6767.82091731 | Volume-weighted last average: 9618.18724777
BingoBoingo: Attention Lords And Ladies of The Republic: You may add to your hosts file as Qntra.net
BingoBoingo: !~later tell mircea_popescu Qntra.net online at pls to get the domain repointed, ISP statement incoming.
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Turns out the problem was I overconfigured the switch yesterday. Less is more.
diana_coman: oh hey, well done BingoBoingo !
diana_coman: I can confirm I see it from here
diana_coman: although it is...slow to load
asciilifeform: congrats BingoBoingo !
asciilifeform: diana_coman: slow to load but i suspect that it has qntra hardcoded links and yer browser sits and tries to resolve and fails
diana_coman: asciilifeform, the home page directly with the ip was also slow
asciilifeform: see if still slow after adding to hosts
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i meant specifically when loading via ip
diana_coman: asciilifeform, you are right; works fine after adding to hosts
asciilifeform: wellknown effect
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: search your html for absolute links to qntra, there's no good reason for them, use relativelinks
asciilifeform: i mean for css/img
asciilifeform: perfectly proper to have clickable links to absolute
BingoBoingo: Will do
BingoBoingo: Alright, give it a try!
asciilifeform: oh hey.
BingoBoingo: And now it is statement time
mod6: mornin'
BingoBoingo: mornin mod6
mod6: <+BingoBoingo> Attention Lords And Ladies of The Republic: You may add to your hosts file as Qntra.net << congrats BingoBoingo!
shinohai: ah latam node ha
shinohai: congrats BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: shinohai: I still gotta get a bitcoind on the box
shinohai: understandable
shinohai: im still setting up slimv today
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: be sure to use trb with sync sanity, cuts sync time from 6+months to coupla weeks at worst
asciilifeform: ( at some point we will have to solve the puzzle of just how many trb nodes it makes sense to have inside 1 cage, i also suspect )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I put an up to recent block chain copy on the box already, but yes I plan to build the ben_vulpes super aggression for it.
asciilifeform: aa
mod6: ssd too i hope
BingoBoingo: Indeed SSD
mod6: *thumbs up*
ben_vulpes: wb qntra!
ben_vulpes: ah how i've missed thee
mod6: ya srsly. nice to have it back.
lobbes: Ah, congrats BingoBoingo.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/01/the-boingo-isp-january-2018-monthly-statement/ << Bingo Blog - The Boingo ISP January 2018 Monthly Statement
BingoBoingo: Updated fiat running account http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/01/the-boingo-isp-january-2018-monthly-statement/#comment-114635
BingoBoingo: Comments on how to handle the fx movements in the future welcome, encouraged, and desired
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-31#1778994 << heh, they must be reading logz. MPEx now appears under "2014 Fundraising Campaign"☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-31 19:58 asciilifeform: http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/contributors.html << aaaaand openbsd ~immediately~ listed 'pineapple fund'. and guess who not listed at all, to this day.
mod6: haha
lobbes: BingoBoingo: small typo under "Assets, Cash"; You have 0 + 0.20123128 = 0.20113128
trinque: pretty sure it's been there a long time https://archive.is/WwN89
BingoBoingo: lobbes: ty, pls to keep the corrections coming
BingoBoingo: me voy para un leccion de español
asciilifeform: trinque: i missed it: looked for mp, rather than mpex
deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/02/01/eucrypt-chapter-8-bit-level-keccak-sponge/ << Ossasepia - EuCrypt Chapter 8: Bit-Level Keccak Sponge
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'gnat-specific methods' link broken
diana_coman: asciilifeform, fixed, thank you!
diana_coman: phf, chapter 8 of eucrypt is a fully-working Keccak, albeit at bit level
asciilifeform: diana_coman: neato
asciilifeform: seems to use whole word (i.e. 64b , on amd64) to store each bit tho
diana_coman: tbh I would recommend it as a better "starter" approach anyway
asciilifeform: i assume this was deliberate, sorta like my egyptologies
diana_coman: for understanding reason
diana_coman: asciilifeform, yes, at this stage the point was to keep it very clear and simple
asciilifeform: aa
diana_coman: no speed-concern yet
diana_coman: the current plan is then to go back to the "word-level" and make that one deal with different endianness
asciilifeform: in re shifts/rotates ( as seen in http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch1_genesis/tree/ffa/libffa/w_shifts.ads ) one nitpick : Shift_Left, etc. are not per se gnat-specific; they are in the standard. but for some perverse reason their ~invocation~ is implementation-specific, and requires this gnaticism.
diana_coman: in principle if one aims for speed, one should look at parallelism I guess
asciilifeform: (supposing this difference makes a difference to anybody)
diana_coman: huh, for modular types ?
asciilifeform: fwiw i do not know of a cpu , from any earthling cpu maker, that did not have shifts/rotates by 1
asciilifeform: diana_coman: http://www.adaic.org/resources/add_content/standards/05aarm/html/AA-B-2.html
asciilifeform: fwiw one can also define these like a barbarian, as x * 2 and x / 2 ; and gcc (last i saw) will Do The Right Thing and transform to a shift
diana_coman: funnily enough the rotates are anyway mainly "shortcuts" for 2 (iirc) transformation operations but otherwise not directly in keccak's defs as such
asciilifeform: but this is not clean.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the observation re 'take as much speed as you actually need, but not more, if costs ugliness' is correct and is in fact the basis for ffa
diana_coman admits that is one of the things she really, really likes about ffa
asciilifeform: the unfortunate thing re 'use word to store 1 bit' is that it will give obscenely disproportionate slowdown, due to spilling out of cacheable size
asciilifeform: but if the application tolerates this -- no reason wainot.
asciilifeform: ( you are likely to see 200-300x slowdown, depending on particular chip, be ready for this )
diana_coman: we will see
asciilifeform: diana_coman: in some applications, speed doesn't really matter almost at all. and in those, it is even now possible to, e.g., take ch5 ffa for rsatron.
asciilifeform: ( it is imho unlikely that anyone will demonstrate an rsatron with fewer moving parts than ffa-ch5 )
phf: diana_coman: ty, i'll try wiring it in, and keep you posted. i assume ada<>c interop is pretty straightforward, though i won't have a chance to try until later next week. suddenly busy
diana_coman: phf, ada<->C interop was quite straightforward last time I tried it, didn't take much at all; you'll need to add a few exports iirc
phf: keccak patche on btcbase, also asciilifeform ch9 likewise
diana_coman: thanks!
asciilifeform: ty phf !