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mircea_popescu: the thing gavin thought constitutes the basis of his importance.
mircea_popescu: the only hostis humani generis are the anonymous usg tools. the gavin-koch-weimer-boeck-younameit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in point of fact it is not trivial, gavin et al introduces some pile of shit that almost certainly has fencepost eggog
mircea_popescu: for as long as one entertains even faint delusions that who knows, packard is maybe a person too, that "coreboot" retarded, what's her name, is maybe human like we are, that gavin or hearn have mothers and fathers and children and smell roses rather than you know, dwelling in rats nests like the rats they are and come out of ootheca like any other kitchen cockroach - for as long as that delusion is even vaguely present it's n
asciilifeform: i dunno what is 'intellectual' about packard, poettering, the leah-whatever dope of libreboot, gavin, et al
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : if you google bitcoin authors you get : Andreas Antonopoulos, Gavin Andresen, Adam Back, Brian Behlendorf, Wences Casares, Hal Finney, Satoshi Nakamoto, Charlie Shrem.
mod6: because why would i want gavin's vpatch stuck in the middle of my flow, if he's not in my wot?
asciilifeform: and yes, 'greeks could have made tesla coil.' the same way that gavin can guess the bits in mircea_popescu's privkey
asciilifeform: original vs gavin
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, gavin&friends nuked the historical codebase (was on sourceforge, http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/bitcoin-0.3.19/ was first announced version) because "moving to github", gotta be proper usg tools and all. then github of course includes nothing but their current crap.
asciilifeform: gavin et al definitely did not want anyone to experiment with replaying the universe, no.
asciilifeform: true, wouldn't want to knock out the stool from under the gavin until the noose is properly on.
asciilifeform: gavin?!
a111: 1134 results for "gavin", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=gavin
trinque: !#s gavin
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "doesn't matter cycles are cheap" happens to be exactly the gavin argument.
shinohai: Gavin voicing support for segwit in attempt to social engineer his way back into r/bitcoin favor: http://archive.is/8gAQw
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/0H2p7 << in other 'no one reads trilema but secretly they really do' news, gavin mcinnes on kim's ass as the acme of us celebritard kultur.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-31#1561009 << and gavin gets 10x that, but somehow nobody 'has to clean up' his shit ☝︎
mircea_popescu: hing like this has the advantage that it's an entirely uninvesting expenditure (exact opposite of what the faux foundation did with its "hiring" of nsa asset gavin andresen), it commits the foundation to ~nothing and can be discontinued at any point.
shinohai: s/Winston/Gavin Andresen/
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
mircea_popescu: the moore is dead. it's just as dead here as it was when i killed gavin with it. dead is dead, and objective reality means universal properties.
mircea_popescu: but w/e, after the total rout of the gavin forks in 2015 and the political rather than technological defeat of the summer of forks earlier last year the remaining hole - which is also not going to get plugged - is exactly in this vein (segwit is no different), where all comers are more than welcome to define magic versions, script meanings and paralel chains ; which everyone else is more than welcome to ignore.
asciilifeform kept waiting for some mention of gavin and only half a minute or so in finally realized that it is not about prb nodes
mircea_popescu: " Andrew Sullivan, chair of the Internet Architecture Board, a group that oversees organisations involved in the evolution of the internet" << there's a gavin everywhere!
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160919/#534 << not since we drove stake through hearn-gavin shambler heart. but "in the future" of retardation, i'm sure there will be.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 18:49 mircea_popescu: gavin is ~a used cumsock.
mircea_popescu: verty until I saw an opportunity to be a member of the great Illuminati brotherhood and I took my chances and I have been a member for close to three years now and the higher you get the richer you become." whereas gavin started life pretending to be in charge of bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: gavin is ~a used cumsock. ☟︎
asciilifeform: there is certainly a wide 'gray zone' of buterinade between gavin and covertress .
asciilifeform: it is not especially hard to distinguish gavin from covertress
BingoBoingo: Sure, then there's Gavin folk who can't be honest
asciilifeform: https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=gavin+andresen << lulzy - the sheer number of obvious gag keys for gavin
asciilifeform: 'Given the contentious situation we are living it is just my opinion that laanwj has the moral obligation to give the keys back to Gavin. Satoshi can be considered a person who passed away and last will was to have Gavin in control.'
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
pete_dushenski: http://takimag.com/article/a_hot_month_for_clintons_body_count_gavin_mcinnes/print << light overview of clintler internal kill count.
asciilifeform: all that comes up in my head is a gavin ballmering at the podium, 'big blox, big blox!' (to the tune of 'developersdevelopers' (tm) (r) naturally)
asciilifeform: iirc he fell in with gavin et al
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's altogether unclear how on earth one will wipe them this time. intelligently they're no longer using a gavin, but ~an anon hydra.
mircea_popescu: no it's not gavin coin, because old wedding picture was associated to random string! it's jeff rubin now!
asciilifeform: why the replacement-gavin.
asciilifeform: '...when Gavin was leading development it seemed like there was no reason to panic or rock the boat. He's reasonable and not a member of the perfectly decentralized everyone-runs-a-full-node-at-home-in-moms-basement-on-bare-metal fairy tale woo-woo cult.'
thestringpuller: So basically Steemit's fate is being turned into a straight up spam machine since it has no soultion in place for the eternal september except "premined votes from ned and dan" and btc bagholders who bought extremely early and can't yet exit. This is the doom I believe Bitcoin would have faced if Roger, Gavin, Hearia, or whatever incarnation of USG programmed hedonist-bot had hijacked the entire system and allowed spam to be cheap. Th
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: gavin has not yet showed up at my house with kalash
covertress: Gavin?
mircea_popescu: and to not forget the various other usg tools with a more remote, disavowed involvement : gavin andresen, emin gun sirer, and a whole list of various derps who unilaterally claim involvement : amir chetrit, anthony di iorio, gavin woon, joseph lubin etc,
mircea_popescu: whole "gavin got consensus" "trump don't got a chance" bla bla all over again.
ascii_deadfiber: gavin is still on his throne.
mircea_popescu: so was gavin. what did that do ?
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
mircea_popescu: then there was the whole craig whatever incident. where the usg assets in bitcoin (gavin & all) swore as to the authenticity of a gross fake.
mircea_popescu: now, the usg assets in bitcoin (gavin & all) didn't like this, and whined about the signature. so i said : swear it ain't so. in writing. they... didn't.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 19:06 asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
mircea_popescu: ima go pick up a slut, will be back in a few hours. just in case any gavin andresen implementations feel the burning need to derp here.
mircea_popescu: no wonder he's being promoted. by now, the moment i see lamestream going "X is a Y" the ~only thing i think about is that if Y = bitcoin, they'd be saying x=gavin.
shinohai: "To Gavin, from tmsr" *crack*
shinohai: Naturally r/btc crowd is celebrating this resurrection: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4lvwzo/gavin_andresen_recent_rise_in_ethereum_should_be/d3qj7af
shinohai: https://www.coingecko.com/buzz/gavin-andresen-ethereum-rise-warning-to-bitcoin <<< obvious butthurt
shinohai: Gavin has been rather quite for a few days.
asciilifeform: block size, instead committing the space to expressing his dislike for Gavin, the Bitcoin foundation...'
asciilifeform: 'Gavin will "win" because most people won't even realize there was a debate, let alone a "war". Gavin has the network alert key, so when he says "please upgrade to avoid being left on a fork", most people will upgrade. Hard to get away from that. Mircea Popescu isn't likely to persuade anyone that he's right because in all of the three blog posts on this subject I found, nowhere does he bother to explain why he's opposed to a larger
asciilifeform: (and who in his right mind would strike any kind of agreement with a gavin or a preet!)
mircea_popescu: they had gavin and all it took was a trilema post to turn him from st peter to a sort of dan quayle. it's not the sort of thing the grunts like to face.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ous standard at the Amherst Lab.' << Between this, Gavin, and Trigglypuff Amherst is starting to sound like quite the lizard den.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quote was from - supposedly - gavin's letter to him.
asciilifeform: kaminsky's link - hilariously - gavin backpedals...
BingoBoingo: Same way it is impossible to tell if Gavin is older than 12
BingoBoingo: Note that Trigglypuff like Gavin lives in Amherst, MASSachussetts
mircea_popescu: except gavin ACTUALLY DOES IT!
mircea_popescu: ;;google site:trilema.com gavin retarded
shinohai: News Flash: Gavin is stupid: http://archive.is/IInmC
mircea_popescu: it's a matter of audience. the people who think gavin is a person don't grok all this ; the rest would be counter-affected.
asciilifeform: i'm a little surprised nobody yet packaged my and your key with, e.g., gavin's
midnightmagic: The payment protocol thingy Gavin did *can have* also the property of saving signed invoices for the client including such information but nobody cares and there hasn't been a high-profile use of the PP where a dispute ensued.
mircea_popescu: let me guess, it was "community consensus" on reddit, on the basis of their locally mutated gavin and some "experts" they consulted.
mircea_popescu: so you like templeos because it has persistence and graham because, apparently, gavin doesn't have to work for a living.
mircea_popescu: i dunno wtf they were thinking putting it in the chip rather than the ram. i guess nobody could have predicted mp kills moore together with gavin.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interesting gavin-heap
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform BingoBoingo since you two seemed to give a shit or w/e, http://www.filedropper.com/showdownload.php/gavin-real-estatetargz
BingoBoingo: Anyways, I got out of my time machine and I've discovered some facebook posts from Gavin's future https://i.imgur.com/4DRHHGI.png
mircea_popescu: " At the October Meeting, Board members voted to award a gift membership to Gavin Andresen for his exceptional service working with our Bulletin Editor, Rebecca Fricke, on the League’s recently redesigned website, www.lwvamherst.org ." << i guess he gets 20 bucks in gift certs or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: how did you figure gavin bell ended up andresen ?
asciilifeform: note, gavin is not, either, according to the communique
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i don't see how gavin is part of a set, ~no mit folk get to sit at home and collect money for nothing.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Gavin gets to lease a car, because he's got that Union job at the mill. PAID LUNCH!
asciilifeform: at any rate, unless the mit link is enemy propaganda and wholly fictitious, gavin doesn't even ~need~ a car
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Gavin is General Motors goon whereas you are more... Toyota
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Gavin is in a union
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not in the same way as Gavin.
asciilifeform: the gavin thing
mircea_popescu: ask gavin, he'll explain it to you.
danielpbarron: gavin can't say the things that i can say, and in that sense he is much less free than I am
asciilifeform: at any rate one probably ought to regard 'gavin gets xxx for gavining' with the same salt as 'red army soldier gets x grams of chocolate in surrender camp'
asciilifeform: Mar 31 09:31:56 <mircea_popescu>he has his idiosyncratic criteria, which fit the events. and change with teh events. << this is unfounded. all i ever said on subj is 'gavin is exempt from arbeit macht frei, doesn't commute, doesn't punch clock'. turns out - true. (unless mircea_popescu has intel suggesting otherwise ?)
shinohai: +asciilifeform ^ answers the old riddle, 'does gavin have to rot in an office' <<< a cage is a cage still, isn't it?
asciilifeform: ^ answers the old riddle, 'does gavin have to rot in an office'
mircea_popescu: gavin has nfi idea ; but generally - this stuff is hard, and the people who grok it damned few if extant at all.
pete_dushenski: gavin-moore's law of infinitely straight lines said so!