BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I believe it was discussed in chan before, but Imma rereading it because pretty sure the booze was driving last time.
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wawan99: so what the next step after this diana_coman
diana_coman: download the eulora client and compile it/check it works on your machine; ask for an account; preferably don't quit the irc session, just leave it on until Mircea comes around to make you the account
wawan99: i already download the Eulora app
shinohai: Surefire way to set your Galaxy Note 7 afire
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mircea_popescu: ahh the new link process is so many thousand times better. wd trinque
shinohai: It has saved on my crayon bill for sure.
mircea_popescu: wtf was that anyway, "go do this and then wait for its imperial majesty usg.sks for until they feel like it". since when!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o did you ? i was sitting here wondering if i'm gonna or not.
mircea_popescu: saw last night a lengthy wail about where to buy a laptop on a 100 bux budget from unemployed derps. kinda looking for an excuse to just close it without looking.
shinohai: Wasn't exactly "employed" when I bought new lappy ... simply found work for Bitcoin and purchased the one I wanted.
mircea_popescu: shinohai these are some unemployed dorks who scoff at random "mayor of ???" because you know, being an anal child with an internet connection puts the adolescentine mind in this superlative position of JUDGE TOI ALL THINGS, PART OF NONE! ; then their budget for laptops is 100 bux but they scoff at a five laying on the ground, and such following forever. are anonymous, pretend famous people justify themselves to them, on in th
mircea_popescu: sure. just mentioned because it'd be an opportunity for 'em to grasp the problem.
mircea_popescu: not so many 5k bills laying on ground, so 100k folks don't get this opportunity.
mircea_popescu: (and in general - it is always and everywhere A LOT more work to be poor than to be rich. it's just idiots are REALLY dedicated to being stupid, much moreso than the other group.)
mircea_popescu: in other news, this whole "noobs meet bitcoin, rsa and deedbot via eulora" thing is so very instructive.
mircea_popescu: i don't think one can properly appreciate how broken "thought process" is in general population unless they do such. or try to teach. or try to tech support. or practice law. or so following.
mircea_popescu: civil rights ? give me a fucking break, giving the average joe any rights is no different from dressing up a sow.
mircea_popescu: !!rate kaustin -1 Really, scamming for five bux ? Get a job.
mircea_popescu: !!rate dharkmadder -1 Really, scamming for five bux ? Get a job.
shinohai: I actually wondered how long that would take
mircea_popescu: how could it not be fucking obvious, they're running my software.
phf: sort of how hapless adventurers sometimes find themselves in a village that's poised on a back of a whale, they always start getting rumbustious, thus waking up the whale and suffering the consequences
phf: also sometimes a giant
mircea_popescu: how the fuck isn't it human nature to do something useful with oneself ?
mircea_popescu: that's the one fucking thing that never seems to be human nature.
shinohai: Kinda just blew his chances at that anytime soon.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : gcc 5 produces eulora binary that works normally ; gcc 6 produces eulora binary that inexplicably works at 0.5 to 1.5 fps.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller the definitions involved are at variance.
shinohai: mircea_popescu: gcc6 wouldn't produce binary for me at all :/
mircea_popescu: i thought that's what made the sad thing you used before
shinohai: Nah last night when I started build it repeatedly failed, so when I compared `env` I noticed that it was using gcc6 on new Jessie
shinohai: switch back to 5 and had 0 issues
phf: could there be anything more russian
phf: nah, russians bronze when exposed to a lot of sun
phf: dirtied up by the khan
PeterL: scoopbot is getting a message of "blocked by cloudflare" when trying to submit links to archive.is, I am taking him offline until I figure out what is going on
mircea_popescu: well now, found a totally epic bug in fucking footnotes
PeterL: dos it have to do with the way the color did not end properly at the bottom of the quote from the cat-v chan?
mircea_popescu: no, apparently a href reference in footnote kills the footnote title somehow
mircea_popescu: so far also getting multiple DIFFERENT page renders on the same god damned basic html in various browswers
PeterL: is this going to be a html is shit rant?
mircea_popescu: ironically, i think the <p> <br /> style construction overwhelms some sort of secret buffer in "process html soup" render engine, resulting in the spwer seen in firefox/archive.is
PeterL: so I was playing with the lamport-parachute scripts, and if I run any of them without any arguments it should just print "usage: ...", right? Instead it is closing the terminal window I ran it in?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: now why the fuck does the wp output <p> <br /> is anyone's guess.
PeterL: It is trying to guess what you mean instead of letting you tell it what you want?
mircea_popescu: actually it seems to convert <font color=lightgray> into <span style="color: #000000;"> ; as none of the font tags are actually ever closed, it results in span overflow and death.
mircea_popescu: here's a lulz : all extant implementations of html have A FIXED SPAN BUFFER.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-30 19:05 PeterL: so I was playing with the lamport-parachute scripts, and if I run any of them without any arguments it should just print "usage: ...", right? Instead it is closing the terminal window I ran it in?
PeterL: yeah, they all did the same
PeterL: hrm, now I tried it again and it worked normally
PeterL: aha, figured it out: if I do "./scriptname" it works, ". scriptname" closes window
PeterL: and how is that different from ./ ?
shinohai: Per asciilifeform 's instruction to roll yer own, I am doing surgery to put it all in one script
mircea_popescu: PeterL ./file opens a shell, runs the file, reports results ; . file runs file in current shell, reports results one up.
mircea_popescu: in other news, it's kinda funny to read imdb reviews of bad 2016 movies.
mircea_popescu: can be killed via kill for the pid. or otherwise, reattach and close.
adlai: what disqualifies tmux?
mircea_popescu: either you want to manually, hence screen ; or you do not, hence tmux.
mircea_popescu: so you want a tmux that has all the ease of handling of screen / a screen that has all the scripting inclination of tmux + an ascii filter.
mircea_popescu: well so far this matches screen, you can ctrl-alt-k iirc to pill it.
mircea_popescu: i dunno that the screen to insulate operator from "iron-that-might-emit-literally-anything-in-response-to-literally-anything" was ever baked. in nuclear physics or theoretical math.
mircea_popescu: do you know why ? because of the dumbass in the intro of that very link!
mircea_popescu: "Here’s what I learned from my mentors: If someone makes a mistake, or does something you don’t think is right, you talk to them about it privately and give them the opportunity to correct it. This not only gets the mistake corrected, but it offers a learning moment to the person, increases their understanding, and keeps them “on board” with the overall project. As a leader you’re being empathetic to that person and
mircea_popescu: offering them benefit of the doubt. Often they aren’t being malicious they just don’t understand why something should be done a certain way. Why not teach them? Put yourself in their shoes and ask, “What do I know that this person doesn’t know, which would cause me to act like them in this situation if I didn’t know it.” That’s the very definition of empathy. Public shaming elicits people’s fight/flight respo
mircea_popescu: nse and it’s hard for them to learn in this state which is why a private consultation is more effective."
mircea_popescu: this imbecility is widely accepted by now. however - there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING PRIVATE ABOUT TECHNOLOGY.
mircea_popescu: it's a miserable anchor for identity, this "ways we do things" ; and for that matter the sort of brain that doesn't take well to public discussion of technology is fundamentally broken in ways that should be addressed long before any technological involvement.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not terribly far off. node.js is ~same crud by ~same people.
trinque: asciilifeform: "cu" on openbsd seems pretty minimalistic, dunno if it meets your requirements.
trinque: nah, I've only used it a few times fiddling with routers and things.
trinque: but the sauce looks like a quick read.
trinque: oh christ, alex gaynor is a django "dev"
shinohai: V even solves the problem of gendered pronouns in software development. Is there anything it can't do?
ben_vulpes: come on brosephim. you're 'working' on node.js, the very government shows up to regender your codebase and you decide to get uppity?
mircea_popescu: shinohai note that the whole "talk privately" bullshit is VERY much how usgtardism spread. they know that openly pushing the koolaid will get them excruciated. but apparently esltards are VERY vulnerable to 1 on 1.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; back in 2013, pre-republic, when idiots with their hissy fits actually got people "teaching moments" ; compare and contrast with 2016, post republic, where francis rowe is about on par with roadkill for reputation.
deedbot: asciilifeform rated trinque 1 at 2015/08/01 16:36:05 << therealbitcoin testing
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of trinque from 1 to 2 << magnificent master of modems
ben_vulpes: piece is about 1.2 bn of options lia "didn't understand"
mircea_popescu: so how is it misleading ? usg stole some money from lybia post invasion.
ben_vulpes: i see "lost", think "what, lost account number?", i see "stole" think "ahaha, what hilarious paper did gs swindle the goatfuckers into buying this time?"
mircea_popescu: "I work for the United States Digital Service." oh ok.
mircea_popescu: yes. we don't really give so much of a shit about inept usg wanna-bes.
ben_vulpes: thing came out of the "marketplace" shitshow.
mircea_popescu: it is traditional in eastern tyrannies for whatever ethnic group of the new sultan to drag in a whole clan from the provinces.
mircea_popescu: gotta make a new one for each new generation of fucks, because well, as seen recently they have all the social skills of a mollusc and so can't work with anyone else but "their friends"
ben_vulpes: hmfic also wants to install 'their friends' at managerial payrolls. wouldn't do at all to bring them in as toilet scrubbers in the 'white house communications agency'. 'but but i'm more important to just be a cog in an existing organization -- we need our own new best shiniest!'
mircea_popescu: to install them as top brass in existing offices would a) mean that women are disgusting cocksuckers ; b) mean that niggers don't have the right to vote and c) prevent any maintenance work from ever happening in all of wash dc.
mircea_popescu: how do you think the places are ever fumigated, painted, etc ?
mircea_popescu: ~only by creating a new "department of office of authority of czar for things and matters"
mircea_popescu: "This isn't merely a legalistic concern (though that too, certainly), but also a technical one: we believe that empathy is a core engineering value—and that an engineer that has so little empathy as to not understand why the use of gendered pronouns is a concern almost certainly makes poor technical decisions as well."
mircea_popescu: soon it'll be entirely run on interns. you know, like ibm./
ben_vulpes: i believe that node.js and the white house are undifferentiable flaming piles of shit.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes he's guilty of could have been guilty almost certainly.
ben_vulpes: "your gender equality mission is a cultural hegemony attack on the embattled nerd culture, and triggers all sorts of auto immune responses costing joyent and co millions in nerd productivity by inducing them to rage fruitlessly at their keyboards"
mircea_popescu: "While we would fire Ben over this, node.js is an open source project and one doesn't necessarily have the same levers." aka "we've not yet managed to steal ben's work, but will posture as if anyway!!1"
mircea_popescu: if anyone ever hires bryan cantrill i wish to see how will they face me.
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mircea_popescu: i suppose. not like the machine cares you know, it'll just collect the patches.