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mp_en_viaje: as to the practical matters, the only use of coca cola is as corrosion stripper, especially off metal ; baking soda i guess works, but honestly i never used any rust stripper besides the great products of the coca cola co in decades, there's no need to.
BingoBoingo: As in all of the platters from the few spinnign rust drives in the rack. After having been sanded they are soaking in a Tomato+ColaBlack sauce on the camp stove.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: He's got two crematory type disks and to spinning rusts along with a spare spinning rust
mircea_popescu: nicoleci, there's a lot of these schmucks, who "don't want to assume". shit's scary, what! imagine, it bleeds monthly and you don't die, it's always wet yet you don't rust, IT CREATED THE WORLD!!!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-23#1915314 << for all i know, long ago already bought. reminds me of a fella i knew who compulsively bought old cars ( and garages, all over town, to put'em in, in which for them to rust... ) ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: PeterL, slash rust stripper.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am going to head down to the basement to put two old RK drives in dulap for zeroing and to retrieve the USB to SATA cable for zeroing the rust
BingoBoingo found a couple 160GB rust spinners going through the luggage, one of them can be repurposed to keep hanbot from having to work off of USB 2.0
asciilifeform: ( rust remover variant, i could do with ~own~ hands , whenever )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-25#1883039 << iirc i explained in prev thread: i have a veerry limited supply of samples. and so, i'd be willing to share 1 with a commercial lab, supposing i had with what to pay, or the proprietor were serious re 'pro bono'. but not so excited to give to some d00d who uses rust remover and layers,whatlayers, etc ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( relays, behold, can rust contacts, but neither envirusate nor crash randomly )
mircea_popescu: hahaha rust remover ?!
zx2c4: rust's ownership and borrow semantics
a111: Logged on 2017-03-30 14:13 asciilifeform: why would anybody even name a comp lang 'rust' ? how about a surgical antiseptic named 'putrescence' ?
a111: Logged on 2017-05-10 21:29 phf`: i'm rewriting everything that asciilifeform is releasing in Ada in Rust, because it's secure AND modern!
a111: 205 results for "rust", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=rust
asciilifeform: !#s rust
zx2c4: also i'm wondering what the usual trilema party line is on rust vs ada
asciilifeform: helps to put current-day crapple into correct perspective. it is a creation of 1990s microshit ( massive dough infusion ), originally to defend against 'monopoly bust'. ended up revived as a replacement 'usg dept of kompyooting' as the original began to show signs of rust
asciilifeform: in related lulz, bu subway is almost exact copy of chicago's, at least in re the degree of rust and grime
asciilifeform: and also the other great marvel, the 1980s-looking autos, standing 'parked' near boarded-up (yes) city park, on blocks, solid block of rust
mircea_popescu: and since then, gimme a break ? for one thing ro destroyed the entire nato force back 9in when was it, 2015 exercise. and for the other, soviets were always better ; and after a brief gap ru is certainly supreme over the usg's rust buckets, since at least 2010s
asciilifeform: ( btw the m. rust wankage has deep undercurrent of scamola, word is the gorby personally ordered 'not shoot', didn't want his fellating of nato reich disrupted by 'incident', then flunkies took the blame )
asciilifeform: btw, recall mathias rust , landing on red square ? and whole su air defense brass sacked ? in usa, there were no fewer than 3 'rusts' , landed in front of capitol, white house, etc. , 0 shot, also considered almost unremarkable nowadays
BingoBoingo: There's a TBF marked spare 1 TB samsung in the inventory sheet. If thoroughput isn't absolutely necessary there are also locally available external spinninf rust HDD's: https://www.zonatecno.com.uy/ProductDetail/90355/Disco%20duro%20externo%20Seagate%201TB%20STEA1000400%20USB%203-0 and https://www.zonatecno.com.uy/ProductDetail/90469/Disco%20duro%20externo%20Seagate%202TB%20STEA2000400%20USB%203-0
mircea_popescu: you wouldn't want anyone to be able to make a gui without importing rust-whatever ?
asciilifeform: activity of shaman, or rust programmer, is 'directed', from his pov
asciilifeform: the same folx will do mountain of work to, e.g., build 'rust' compiler or other heathen nonsense. but unsurprisingly won't lift a finger to look through terrorist telescope and , heavens forbid, see an extra moon where mother church proclaimed, Officially, there be none
BingoBoingo: Either that or the browsers rust
asciilifeform: renovations?! they rust?!?
phf: it's the same shock i had when i traveled in rust belt a decade ago and discovered that nobody's working and everyone's on drugs.
mircea_popescu: mod6 61 relocation events... i guess it's starting to go the way of rust.
zx2c4: we've also got implementations in Rust and Go
ckang: but in terms of reliablity i have had better luck with spinning rust
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: one interesting hiccup was that when i synced in vanilla "connect to wide net" mode, this new node somehow got stuck and also i think triggered some weirdo crash/wedge on another machine of mine with a raid array of rust that had until that moment been hanging at the tip of the spear, but when run with -connect to the self-same (restarted) node a) the rust caught back up within an hour and b)
mod6: so yeah, pretty clear. spinning rust and TRB do not mix.
asciilifeform: ( dulap had ~ok trb performance on spinning rust, but it had striped raid . and STILL couldn't keep up with ssd zoolag, despite the latter being a box the size of my fist, with no raid, on residential fiber )
asciilifeform: spinning rust, at this point i dare say, is like running node on 486
mod6: My node got with 140 blocks, then promptly fell back behind about 400-500. but this is caused by my dedicated node running on spinning rust it appears. when i get a moment, I'm gonna call the DC and see if they'll throw in an ssd in there for me. that should cure it.
asciilifeform: i suspect that main enemy of mircea_popescu's weapons systems is tropical damp, rust. the other enemy seems to prefer 'soft' liquishit to actual action, for whatever reason.
caaddr: instead we have... what do we have? we have the blockchain but we're still using dns. we have common lisp but we're still using scheme, or, worse, clojure. we have ada but we're using rust. "we" being "we the people", as in the redditoid masses
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: those who are only interested in transmitting voice -- may as well be rust hobbyists
asciilifeform: sit , instead, in a cellar, rust.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you fail to maintain a steel structure for long enough, it will rust in weak spots and bend under own weight.
asciilifeform: pretty sure i retired the last rust hdd...
pete_dushenski: phf: i can see that. also, asciilifeform likely has a crate with spinning rust hdd's containing a vault's worth of digital tomes.
ang-st: i was about to says rust :)
phf: asciilifeform: but you write it in rust, see!
ben_vulpes: and recommendation ssd; although spinning rust not impossibru to get by with it ain't long for this world.
shinohai: Gold: " The Rust Evangelism Strike Force recommends several resources for people who would like to poorly reimplement other unix tools."
phf: of course cyclone is an order of magnitude higher technological achievement than rust. reminds me of common lisper "we brought garbage collector java". so it goes.
phf: aww, hicks has been pimping cyclone back when i took his class too, now he has to say on his page "Cyclone, a safe dialect of C. Cyclone's system for manual memory management was influential in the development of Rust." we are relevant!!1
a111: Logged on 2017-06-17 21:27 mod6: <+BingoBoingo> <mircea_popescu> i bought a can of coolant, it's FLUORESCENT GREEN << he dye is to tell you which of several incompatible types of coolant it is. Mixing GREEN and ORANGE coolant is a good way to introduce rust to one's engine block cooling passages. << iirc, all vehicles pre-1995 or so used the green coolant.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-17 21:27 mod6: <+BingoBoingo> <mircea_popescu> i bought a can of coolant, it's FLUORESCENT GREEN << he dye is to tell you which of several incompatible types of coolant it is. Mixing GREEN and ORANGE coolant is a good way to introduce rust to one's engine block cooling passages. << iirc, all vehicles pre-1995 or so used the green coolant.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, myeah; thing is rust eats out core until there's nothing left but that's not to say there was just powder to start with; or in any case, not in any other sense than "it's all powder"
asciilifeform: i wonder, how long these typically sit around and rust
a111: Logged on 2017-06-23 01:35 asciilifeform: re knuth... names ain't, afaik, copyrightable anywhere, even in usa.. so i half expect to live to see a 'mircea popescu foundation' run by, e.g., malia obummer, which funds transsexualized rust programming for systemd plugins
asciilifeform: re knuth... names ain't, afaik, copyrightable anywhere, even in usa.. so i half expect to live to see a 'mircea popescu foundation' run by, e.g., malia obummer, which funds transsexualized rust programming for systemd plugins ☟︎
mod6: post, most seem to now use this "dex-cool" stuff which is pink or orange. you are not supposed to mix them, no. and as bb says, can introduce rust into the water jacket of the block.
mod6: <+BingoBoingo> <mircea_popescu> i bought a can of coolant, it's FLUORESCENT GREEN << he dye is to tell you which of several incompatible types of coolant it is. Mixing GREEN and ORANGE coolant is a good way to introduce rust to one's engine block cooling passages. << iirc, all vehicles pre-1995 or so used the green coolant. ☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i bought a can of coolant, it's FLUORESCENT GREEN << The dye is to tell you which of several incompatible types of coolant it is. Mixing GREEN and ORANGE coolant is a good way to introduce rust to one's engine block cooling passages.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-13 23:41 asciilifeform: from comments, lulzgold, 'The Hivemind is fully committed to systemd for service management, Wayland for graphical display, and PulseAudio for audio, which is why it doesn’t matter if you personally find them distasteful, they will become the de facto standard. For systems programming, Rust looks increasingly like it will be the Hivemind’s choice to replace C, as it has the backing of the Mozilla organization, is being used for r
BingoBoingo: In other news negrodamus finished sync experiment a few days ago for a roughly 6 month sync time in the wild with spinning rust. Is at present mostly keeping up (i.e. 3 blocks behind atm)
mircea_popescu: industrial corrosive contaioners are all metal, from 10 gallon milk jugs to what have you. rust my fucking left food omfg.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because your brain dun work. half the roofs in the world are made of metal, no rust. if you get operated on they'll uyse what, fucking abs tools ? "oh, can cut with laser!11"
asciilifeform: because rust
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661645 << because a) wood is still, to this day, the better material for the purpose, in the sense lee sedol is the better go player. note that these WERE YOUR OWN CONSTRAINTS! you despise "made to rust iron bottoms", which is outright idiotic but in the common vein of "alf has no clue but figures he can have oppinion". you do not wish to pay the price of industrial process. you stirctly spe ☝︎
asciilifeform: dunno, my tank's lever nut was a veritable antikythera, wholly solid ball of rust.
mircea_popescu: the reason being that there's a whole troop of intellectuals who missed their web development calling and instead of sitting on compuer all day checking out what's new in rust they just collate crap from across the youtube.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: 2009 intel syncing in wild on spinning rust. Started in December
phf`: i'm rewriting everything that asciilifeform is releasing in Ada in Rust, because it's secure AND modern! ☟︎
ben_vulpes: you may now proceed to quest 3 in the Infiltrate TMSR~ saga: write a patch demonstrating rust interop with TRB
ben_vulpes: the rust evangelism chatbot thanks you for your contribution, and awards you eleventy whuffie
phf`: should've been written in Rust!
asciilifeform: massive lulzmine, complete with -- yes,i shit thee not -- 'rust'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: rust?!
Framedragger gets into situtations where he's forced by himself to read rust code on git. can't blame anyone
shinohai: Written in ...... Rust.
ben_vulpes: > "The Rust Evangelism Strikeforce speculates on when they can move on to shitting up web development"
trinque: rust was written by a mozilla guy after long radiation damage working on a browser
asciilifeform: currently 'rust' et al. decade ago -- haskell. prior -- the java people.
trinque: no such thing as a "rust machine" or "golang machine" but lets not dwell on the fact that there's a machine down there too long.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-30 14:04 mircea_popescu: i'm not saying "rust is bad mmkay". i couldn't care less, there's been tons of "new languages" fulfilling the need of people to "revolutionize". they all work, exactly in the way custom pliers work.
asciilifeform: why would anybody even name a comp lang 'rust' ? how about a surgical antiseptic named 'putrescence' ? ☟︎
trinque: nah, I don't write the stuff. just was subjected to some fat idiot prattling on about rust one night
asciilifeform: 'if all git commits could be automatically converted to Rust' for instance.
asciilifeform: also mircea_popescu the 'rust' link simply gotta be a parody
mircea_popescu: this includes fucking pascal, let alone erlang, go, rust, java, you name it.
mircea_popescu: i'm not saying "rust is bad mmkay". i couldn't care less, there's been tons of "new languages" fulfilling the need of people to "revolutionize". they all work, exactly in the way custom pliers work. ☟︎
Framedragger: for posterity, rust does have things like raw pointers (and no gc), etc.; but the kommunity around it is at this point perhaps ~insufferable, much like the javascript hipster legions. which is not a point to be ignored
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-30#1634660 << "My motivation is primarily I don't want to learn all the over-complicated details of C, but at the same time I would like to be productive in a safe system language, a category in which Rust seems to be alone." ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'Some moron "optimizes" a feature of a text editor that is written in javascript and requires hundreds of megabytes of memory to open an empty file. Hackernews recommends you switch to this editor, or away from this editor, or anything, just switch. Whatever you're doing isn't what they're doing: fix it. In accordance with Federal law, one Hackernews implemented the feature in question in Rust.'
asciilifeform: spinning rust is the baseline.
jurov: using spinning rust is not a cheap hack?
mircea_popescu: rust is pretty much the anti-language ; as someone explained "the red hat decided to present it as the thing and hope for all the idiots to contribute freely to make it the thing for this reason".
mircea_popescu: i couldn't care less what rust dork has to say on any topic.
BingoBoingo: There are many things in this world where rust removal and remediation are possible. The steel of American cars is not one of them.
ben_vulpes: goals are twofold: prevent further paint degradation and as much rust as possible now that the skin is broken
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: If your mission is stopping rust what you want is to seal the area against air and moisture. A thin layer of oil based paint does this. A think rubber or plastic glop is more likely to break its seal because soft. If thin paint breaks seal it should be noticable.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: "paint" paint or eg https://www.rustoleum.com/pages/about-rust-oleum/rustoleum-press-room/rust-oleum-news/rust-oleum-leakSeal-flexible-rubber-coating-stops-leaks-instantly/