a111: Logged on 2018-12-04 00:35 asciilifeform: lol terrifyingly rotten ocr
mod6: asciilifeform: hey, happy birthday!
mod6: hanbot: glad to hear you're on the mend.
mod6: just stopped by for some salutations.
lobbes: salutations mod6 (and belated happy bday asciilifeform / happy recovery hanbot)
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:38 mircea_popescu: trinque tbh i was thinking of revising the voice model altogether, in favour of a voice-or-kick model.
lobbes: unrelatedly mircea_popescu do you care if spyked's rss bot takes over in #eulora? lobbesbot's RSS-tron has always been buggy and is 100% heathen atm. Imo makes sense to just transition to spyked if he is okay with it
phf: asciilifeform: happy birthday!
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 6 days, 6 hours, and 6 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> turns out i was wrong re the rom, the rom-shaped object is actually a 1980s 'programmable event timer' thingie, am2971adc
phf: also i'm alive and on the other end, will soon return to regular scheduled programming
phf: signing the lease today
phf: it's all about that escape velocity
phf: re ivory i think we had a thread about macivory being much easier to reverse, since it's all isolated, but you will still have to spend time (re?)learning the gnarly details of apple bus, and whatever adhoc protocol is used to communicate with host. going by an xl might not be a worse option
phf: that explains why he remembers you by name
phf: it's more of a mental rolodex of 5 guys who are not in their 70s who are or were actively working with anything at all symbolics. he also knows the ones in their 70s, but those, except for reiner joswig, rarely come up, since they are, at this point, the kind of people who boot their symbolics, if they still have one, once in 5 years to remember the glory days
phf: heh, i like that last analogy
a111: Logged on 2018-10-19 01:04 asciilifeform: amberglint: when i went to his house 10y ago, offered to him to make fpga-ized 'ivory' , 'pro bono', if he'd only cough up with what. answr was approx 'can't , unless my master permits, and he wouldn't'
phf: asciilifeform: ah ty, i was mostly making a "bright side" argument, since we do have an xl1201
phf: re dks and fpga, i'm also not sure that he has enough data, or if he even knows if he has enough, or if the "master" in question has enough. i'm starting to suspect that the reason nothing's moving forward is because it's an intellectual bezel, a cat that's alive only until observed
phf: i regret not buying a macivory at discount when i had a chance, it also would've been easy to take to russia with me
phf: nah, left it at the office. at least there's enough wiring in place to do remote x11 (though i haven't tried yet, have people in place to flip switches, but not necessarily to reseat the boards)
phf: i was thinking though of moving it out of the ridiculous steel enclosure, that might make it a touch more transportable
mircea_popescu: lobbes i see no problem whatsoever with rssbot taking over eulora.
☟︎ phf: asciilifeform: a lot of things happened since 98 though, that predates a couple of particularly gnaly fire sales. also alpha based emulation is "easy" to do from first principles for an experienced symbolics professional, you need an instruction list, some understanding of the architecture and a the sources for the os.
phf: you have hobbyists building emulators with much less to go by
phf: right, which is where somebody like kalman come in
phf: the hypothesis though is not "they lost everything", it's rather that they all have a handful of what they were told were gold chests by people who can actually recognize gold. when poking at contents stuff seems vaguely gold like, so they hold to it hoping to cash it in, never really "having time" to go to an appraiser.
☟︎ phf: it's possible that one of those boxes actually have gold in it, but the handful that i opened had _mostly_ garbage
a111: Logged on 2018-11-16 22:50 asciilifeform: there's also the 'is it really ~the~ tapes' aspect. as in the old thing with the gold bars that nobody wants to drill for tungsten. consider for instance how nikola tesla was able to live in the waldorf for years, with the loan collateral being a trunk containing 'great invention of much dangerous power'. when died, turned out to contain a whetstone bridge.
phf: i concede that there might be a faint within a faint, but i can't Munchhausen my way out of that one: i kind of have to assume that my perception of reality somewhat corresponds to reality, rather than a bunch of people playing elaborate games with me
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 02:24 phf: the hypothesis though is not "they lost everything", it's rather that they all have a handful of what they were told were gold chests by people who can actually recognize gold. when poking at contents stuff seems vaguely gold like, so they hold to it hoping to cash it in, never really "having time" to go to an appraiser.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-02 21:26 mircea_popescu: now this man... he had a set of 9V lightbulbs. and so as any good respectable citizen i sat down with the dead man's dragon pile, to TEST everythiung I got. yes ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 02:16 mircea_popescu: lobbes i see no problem whatsoever with rssbot taking over eulora.
mircea_popescu: nah. they don't even really have vespas here. just shitty toyotas
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: data entry of btc transactions and usd transactions is complete; data entry for prepaid customers and monthly paying customers is quite nearly so. BingoBoingo: please dig through notes and break customer nrCgvFMWCqpO's october payment into one for the rockchip and another for the shell. since they have different time horizons, they need separate subscriptions. asciilifeform: next thing i do is
ben_vulpes: write the calculator of change in customer equity account for a given month (which is the biggest manual backbreaker); after that i will do depreciation on the tangibles by hand, update assets and liabilities tables.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: logs suggest we have 2 outstanding wires; i don't suppose either have cleared yet, have they?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: please also stand up a postgres somewhere convenient for me to import and continue to work on this spreadsheet; this is ready for you to do your own data entry on fiat/btc incoming/outgoing
ben_vulpes: ah no, i missed log lines. both cleared?
ben_vulpes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-04#1878282 << still quite a bit of value in sqlthings in managing fungible programmers. in the same way that common lisp fails at making cogs, mmmapped custom $whatever can be marvelously conservative of time and space, fit entirely in head, and also be anti-cog.
☝︎☟︎ ben_vulpes: that postgres can build an index concurrently under load was pretty valuable just today, and nobody over here had to write it.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: break customer nrCgvFMWCqpO's october payment << this is so cool.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 17:21 BingoBoingo: And the datacenter just sent the statement of account showing receipt of the wires
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-05#1878451 << mysql also does this, and i recall the history too (anyone remember digg being out for a coupla days because morons hit the max count of db entries, re-defined table to use larger ints, and had to ~rebuild the index offline~ for 30+ hours ?)
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 06:36 ben_vulpes: that postgres can build an index concurrently under load was pretty valuable just today, and nobody over here had to write it.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 06:32 ben_vulpes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-04#1878282 << still quite a bit of value in sqlthings in managing fungible programmers. in the same way that common lisp fails at making cogs, mmmapped custom $whatever can be marvelously conservative of time and space, fit entirely in head, and also be anti-cog.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 06:36 ben_vulpes: that postgres can build an index concurrently under load was pretty valuable just today, and nobody over here had to write it.
mircea_popescu: no, it's not. "today i tried to boot my bolix, had to re-write apple bus"
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I'll get to reading docs and pick a place to stand it up
ben_vulpes: and yet steam engine needs a governor asciilifeform; factories gotta crank, ben_vulpeses gotta shepherd cows through funnels.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm not saying that i *like* this world, but that i'm going to eke fortune i can with the tools and men at hand.
mircea_popescu: it works as shockingly fine predictor. hospital that didn't work had emergency room vitals "something3000", evidently run on java. hospital that did work had same item philips, evidently built for moon missions.
mircea_popescu: it's remarkable that hundred bucks peripheral predicts hundred thousand mission.
mircea_popescu: rather, "the sort of brain that thinks this is acceptable, will think so many other idiocies acceptable, anything working out will be miracle rather than technology"
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: .008 for shared hosting (4 months) and 0.03419973 for the Rockchip (3 month), was done that way to synchronize their expirations for the end of January
ben_vulpes: i long ago gave up on the notion that i'd be working on anything approaching techne in american corpistan; but to wail about it instead of ekeing some amount of capital out seems fruitless. lessons of Mocky and phf instructive here.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: one's a four-month period and the other a three-, does the hosting subscription start a month before the rockchip?
mircea_popescu: romanian peasant proud continuator of rome, through the byzantium method. "we've been holding eyes closed to world for 2k years, because head does not follow reality, reality follows head!"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "it's not the church that has to follow the world ; it's the world that has to follow the church" catholic dictum. romanians don't need the dictum. they live it.
BingoBoingo: Shared is for October, November, December, January... RockChip for November, December, January
ben_vulpes: hallucinations of control over 'our kommyunity!'
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: feel free to fire questions and instructions.
BingoBoingo: In other news, how nice is it the USG shut itself down today for a celebration of the day I got on an airplane.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 17:42 trinque: what else was the thing for?
mircea_popescu: w/e, they got "bought" by "investors" who are gonna lose every penny anyway, "might as well promote pantsuit ideals while office rent lasts"
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 17:47 asciilifeform: so being shot in the head.
mircea_popescu: aaanyway, kinda why they are corpse maggots, the "culture war" schmucktards : they ~only exist on corpses, the whole "code of conduct" / "trasnrights" / blabla is a necrosis epiphenomenon
mircea_popescu: the world has grown complex ; complex enough to support colonies of clostridium perfringens organizing parades to explain how "corpse is going fine / hemolysis normal in human bodies" etc.
mircea_popescu: "who can tell the difference" amirite, "a cell's a cell!"
a111: Logged on 2018-10-26 17:40 hanbot: in other still-using-google fun,
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1861765 << news search for bitcoin nominally yields 103M results, of which shitoogle will actually produce 290, which in turn yields ~30 non-duplicates. delayed another week i expect for spelunking.
ben_vulpes: random return of db contents sorta related to what one asked for not so readily distinguishable from ai engagement-driving recommendations. toddlers put stuff in their mouths to figure out wtf it is, news at at eleven.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other lulz, here's anglopedia official sendoff on brejnev : "For Gorbachev and his adherents, Brezhnev came to personify everything that was wrong with the Soviet regime. The popularity of Gorbachev's program among Western specialists, and the interest generated by the new leader's dynamism after the boring stasis of Brezhnev's later years, precluded a reappraisal of Brezhnev's career until 2002, when a group of
mircea_popescu: younger scholars picked up on Brezhnev's growing popularity among certain members of the Russian population. These people remembered with fondness Brezhnev's alleviation of their or their parents' poverty, a relief made all the more striking by the extreme impoverishment experienced by many in the post-Soviet era. This reassessment may appear unwarranted to those who prize political liberty above marginal increments in materi
mircea_popescu: eh, it's not so simple, su was doing pretty shittily economically.
mircea_popescu: "oh let's make more steel". not much of a plan, india makes most ofg the world's steel today and nobody cares.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-04 19:59 asciilifeform: 'The story was very typical. The famous Roifman who was at the center of the first of the “textile trials” also kept his mouth shut, so that not even the snoopers could talk him round. Then he was summoned to see Semichastny, head of the KGB, and Malyarov, the Deputy Public Prosecutor, who gave him their sincere Party word that he wouldn’t be shot if he gave up his riches. Roifman believed them, handed in his valuables—and
trinque: ty asciilifeform. did you say you figured out what the reconnect bug was with pehbot or no?
trinque: if not it'll be near the top of my stack to investigate.
mircea_popescu: some ustards read foucault in translation sometime last year, decided "they want to break free of socially-constructed sexual prison", "invented more sexualities"
mircea_popescu: this is "attracted to intelligence", notwithstanding sophia has little to do with sepia.
mircea_popescu: also notwithstanding they can blow it out their ass, for all the diff it makes.
ben_vulpes: typically a quiet desperate plea for more than three neurons that flash when rubbed against each other. it's rare! desirable! easier to say you want it and pray the filter works than to go out and filter.
danielpbarron: l0de is the host of the l0de radio hour, the show that was recently in the news for targeted printer spam
l0de: "THIS PRINTER NEEDS EMERGENCY SERVICE PLEASE CALL #"
☟︎ l0de: or something to that extent
l0de: "EMERGENCY PLEASE CALL THIS NUMBER IMMEDIATELY!"
l0de: how frequently do you have to re-verify your key
l0de: so freenode dependent
l0de: lemme save this dumb key
l0de: will see how ircclown does
anniez: that was a struggle -_-
anniez: do you guys use keybase at all ?
anniez: seems majority dislike keybase
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 14:31 asciilifeform: KimuSan^: how , precisely , does keybase differ from the key escrow db clinton tried to make mandatory ?
anniez: asciilifeform: what's the mandatory clinton key db ?
anniez: i'm sick of these rich asshole fkin things up
anniez: nice l0de someone got you in the news
anniez: do you know who been sending those out?
l0de: maybe that hackergiraffe guy
anniez: asciilifeform: damn, that sounds true af