a111: Logged on 2018-02-07 13:43 ave1: So, I've created a vpatch of the mp-wp I'm running, would it be OK to publish this?
jhvh1: danielpbarron: The operation succeeded.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
phf: it's like the bowery boys in here. code words and secret passages.
shinohai: Can't run a terrorist organization without seekrit communications!
mod6: eua maey jutz kbkt atjkxyzgtj ngox znkuxe
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 13:27 mircea_popescu: so, let me know if you're interested in buying some newegg/amazon/whatever for this, danielpbarron pete_dushenski whosoever else.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 16:08 BingoBoingo: !~later tell pete_dushenski Have you been following the BBisp developments?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i think i saw that lobbes was getting in on the action, any other to divide the pie between ?
pete_dushenski: and the arrangement is to order bbisp supplies, and take delivery and repackage or have them shipped directly to uruguay from amazegg ? (sorry for missing this detail in logs)
pete_dushenski: got it. let me check what the lousy cad is worth and confirm pie proportion but at least half should be no prob.
pete_dushenski: "Spelling employs a skill many of the women honed while captive: mnemonic memory. Some spent much of their time memorizing lengthy prayers and hymns. Others composed diary entries in their heads—their thoughts, injustices they suffered—they would later log in journals they kept hidden."
pete_dushenski: "“I find it easy to memorize,” said Saratu Ayuba, who won a gold medal in a recent contest by successfully spelling entertainment. “I know the small words. I can build them out in my head.”"
pete_dushenski: in re #bringbackourgirls and related benefits of bokoharamisms
mircea_popescu: contrary to pantsuit fanfic, memory is unrelated to whining.
mircea_popescu: nor is there some kind of historical or cultural component to it, as teh little clitlers appear to imply.
trinque: top-left one looks like a dude. I thought that was haram
trinque: totally accurate depiction of waco: sucks, probably can't read
ave1: No it's not, as hanbot still had some problems with the embedded in svg images, if I read correctly.
ave1: So I've made a new genesis with images removed and sha512 sums inserted
ave1: I'll be happy to regrind my 2 (so far) patches if needed
ave1: (to work on top of hanbot's genesis)
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 8495.69, vol: 27293.26226256 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 8486.0, vol: 91180.98734955 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 8474.0, vol: 13914.1379832 | Volume-weighted last average: 8486.73648495
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: In other developments tonight will be my third night sleeping in The 5. There is now a full on multi day final solution underway in the hostel to eradicate the chinches while occupancy is low. I mean outlet covers stripped, the sweet smell of TempoXL with a few other unfamiliar (but not organophosphate, possibly terpene) scents wafting out of the warzone.
mircea_popescu: ave1 yeah, ideally make them patches off the full genesis once that appears ; afaik hanbot is stuck waiting for phf's proper vdiff, which evidently is stuck waiting for the conjclusion of phf's republican-oriental adventure.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: aaand since it's the glorious morning of the 8th, let's do some last calls.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you see any problems with teh proposed setup ?
shinohai: Tonight's menu: Pasta Con Salsa Cince
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Only in the challenge of sourcing the 2U sheetmetal/powersupplies locally, and the caveat that the CPU orderers gotta watch the SKU to get the right cooler.
BingoBoingo: They apparently do not know how to order parts
mircea_popescu: if they do not provide 2u boxes, you go there with two containers of gasoline on the 13th instead of any parts,
shinohai: Post results to BingoBlog por favor.
mircea_popescu: "customer set montevideo dc on fire over dc's inability to provide 2u rack boxes."
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 13:35 mircea_popescu: ave1 yeah, ideally make them patches off the full genesis once that appears ; afaik hanbot is stuck waiting for phf's proper vdiff, which evidently is stuck waiting for the conjclusion of phf's republican-oriental adventure.
mircea_popescu: ave1 i'd have just had you do the genesis rather than wait, but the problem is you can't really, on current inband diffing.
mircea_popescu: was a whole thing in the logs a few weeks back that eventually lead to this structure.
ave1: I know, I followed the recurrent discussion on binaries and uuencoded problems (with ++/-- in there).
mircea_popescu: i just dun want you to get the impression your work's not really wanted or anything of the kind. as is perhaps very evident we have a massive shortage of human capital in teh republic, and it's been worsening over the years.
hanbot: ave1 cool deal. how's the backend feel w/o any pix?
ave1: hanbot: it looks ugly, but as the pics are in tar files, you could still unpack these and have them back.
ave1: will the republican ISP also provide some sort of website hosting?
hanbot: mhm, neat. i'll check it out once the ball o' string's sorted
BingoBoingo: ave1: Depends on if the datacenter can summon the appropriate urgency to respond to the present dilemma.
diana_coman: phf, can you help test keccak on big endian iron? see ^
☟︎ hanbot: halp, i saw today's trilema header and i can't get up!
hanbot: his tiny NOSTRIL, barely discernable from grain of sand!
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: (41/42)^88 * 88 = 10.556610754891212
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1 - (41/42)^88 = 0.8800385141489635
shinohai: It was an appropriate header .... all the responses were pretty much "I liek turtles!"
diana_coman finds out she does ...not like baby turtles
mircea_popescu: i dunno, dumb cunts at an age they're barely worth selling by open outcry somehow hallucinated for themselves this role whereby they sit their ass down and the world brings them shit for their evaluation.
mircea_popescu: so that's it, precious cuntlet importantly declares "i approve of this thing" and that's all her job's worth, she's done.
mircea_popescu: the world can now spin as she's done her part, and all anyone could ever demand of her.
diana_coman: well, that's how it worked that far pretty much, isn't it? tell Daddy what you like, tell teacher what you'd like etc
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, sort of inept dragon-look-a-like; I heard they are tasty though (bigger ones at least)
mircea_popescu: da fuck must be rattling in the empty box above their shoulders to imagine anyone gives a shit whether they approve or disapprove, of anything.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman they're tasty, sure, but believe it or not the little animal had a very distinct personality, in my hand.
hanbot: asciilifeform caterpillars're kinda neurotoxic roulette here, afaik
mircea_popescu: like a sort of mute benevolent something. let's say for touching one i have an intuitive understanding of why the world was carried by turtle rather than calipiter.
diana_coman: and no, it's not a case of "ughhh, SO ugly "
shinohai: When I was in West Palm Beach once, I remember one of the most hilarious thing I saw on beach in the morning was DNR officers arresting 10-20 Hatians a morning for digging up turtle eggs to eat.
hanbot: asciilifeform i dun think so. certainly never saw 'im.
diana_coman: caterpiller though ughhhhh; I have seen real fat, oozy, ugly ones several summers as a child; horrible
diana_coman: when a poor tree is absolutely eaten up alive by the fat worms that fall at times with a splat on the path underneath
diana_coman: among the "horrible things of the hot,hot plains in summer"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no idea specifically, some kind of chelonioidae
mircea_popescu: afaik all others have bony shells. but this was definitely leathery.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, ahaha, I can see that; makes for a good nightmare too
hanbot: mircea_popescu i dun think the guy in your pic is a leatherback; they have long vertical ridges on their shells, whereas tinyguy has the sorta hexagonal plates
mircea_popescu: so : there are four types of sea turtle known in costa rica. 1. eretmochelys imbricata, besides being VERY rare (critically endangered, too) has a beak, which the little guy lacks ; 2. chelonia mydas as far as anyone knows lives in tortuguero natl park, which is on the wrong side of the country (limon, vs this was if memory serves some miles down from jaco) ; 3. lepidochelis olivacea, besides not looking anything like that af
mircea_popescu: aik, does the whole swarm thing where the whole beach is moving with tiny turtles, whereas i thought this was a single nest event, as there were what, a dozen or two all within a few meters of each other.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "there is no way to" / "you can't even provide the bare bones necessary supplies for using your services"
mircea_popescu: jesus, you know the females come back every year to the beach they were born. the fact that only one nested there successfully means...
mircea_popescu: hanbot bonus points : if you actually go through one of their dumbass "organized tours", other than the herd of fetlife cowsies everywhere, you're not even allowed to hold them!
mircea_popescu: i suppose this explains why ~all of them automatically assume "this is my job". teh state has so failed the individual, it's inconceivable one might you know, fucking live.
mircea_popescu: in other news, so they lay about 100 eggs sometime in november, hatching takes seven-eight weeks. considering these were coming out on nov 12th ?! weird shit.
hanbot: i'm sure. in my experience "organized x" here means "tie yourself to 'bilingual' guide, by which we mean box of overeager wordsalad, listen to five precautions per actionable item, getcher FREE dorkscout badge"
mircea_popescu: well, on the plus side they are carnivorous, so maybe they eat most of the guidebois.
hanbot: that's an organization i could get behind, feed ze turtles (guideboi edition).
hanbot: jaguars on the beach?! i'm not going often enough, i guess
mircea_popescu: in other not-news, i've been shitting like a colon courrier over here, i had no fucking idea i was that fulla shit.
mircea_popescu: apparently spending half a day being tumble-dried by the ocean is great for one's internals.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo "there is no way to" / "you can't even provide the bare bones necessary supplies for using your services" << Sent with the further reminder : "From our earliest conversations I was clear that housing customer provided hardware was the focus of my business. The quotes for new Supermicro servers have not interested them from a cost basis perspective, and now they are getting together a pile of hardware to
mircea_popescu: hanbot apparently they eat the neck and leave the turtle for dead.
hanbot: mircea_popescu jeeze, they don't even leave the carcass on someone's doorstep?
hanbot: turtle's gotta evolve to spray some seawater in catfaces.
mircea_popescu: shinohai sadly misguided ; nevermind the "assholes", how about everyone else, all the copacetic timeservers ease the world of their unwelcome burden.
shinohai: Misleading as well, they actually support anti-suicide efforts.
shinohai would like to see Futurama suicide booths on every corner ....
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: shouldn't it be in orclang ? << No. They have made it clear they know more than enough English, and you don't make strong asks in their own linguistic territory. And the head of the tech team does fluent English including idiomatics. I have met enough of their people to know the message going to be understood.
mircea_popescu: !~google "Smoke billows from the Empire State Building in New York, July 28, 1945, after an Army B-25 bomber en route to Newark Airport crashed into the upper floors of the structure. Fires were started on the top 11 floors of the building."
BingoBoingo: I am going to grab lunch and try to shake off some of this adrenalin
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo gotta learn patience. the orcs generally mean well but can't manage to apply themselves.
mircea_popescu: infuriating as all hell, i grant you, but then again such has been missionary work since 1492.
mircea_popescu: FIVE CENTURIES. not appreciably closer to any kind of humanity.
BingoBoingo: One day at a time, Keep it simple, easy does it, working on getting that AA groove back. I can only imagine how much more alien this shit would be if I would have went "jolo presents azn bsns"
http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=jolo mircea_popescu: trinque ill tell you, this comments rss thing is fucking great.
BingoBoingo: No creo que It took "this is an emergency" to get them to finally quote importing shit off of Amazon. Me voy a McDonalds.
shinohai: Te vas a McDonalds BingoBoingo ? What has Uruguay done to you?
mircea_popescu: in other sads, the state of eg torrents is beyond broken. there's all these solved problems of the late 90s /early 2000s which we discover unpleasantly that the new generation utterly unsolved in the meanwhile.
mircea_popescu: "what do you mean you really don't care about the most recent piece of holywood vomit, and that you think eg complete walter mathau filmography not being readilty available is scandalous! THIS IS NOT WHAT TORRENTS ARE FOR!"
mircea_popescu: fuck me sideways, i had no idea torrents are for one to be able to amass fifty days' worth of hot topic cctv footage.
mircea_popescu: not so always. at some point, they actually had depth.
mircea_popescu: but i have no need for a tb of porn, scatological or eschatological.
mircea_popescu: in fact, i am one of the (possibly few ?) who actually STILL, to this day, produces more porn than he consumes.
mircea_popescu: i still have raws of my own girls & their "lesbian" friends that i've not even summoned the interest to look through yet.
ben_vulpes: lordy boiling frustration in ch9, diana_coman
ben_vulpes: ive my hands full with servers por el bbisp but once i'm done and they're packed up i'll run the tests in ch9 but must cop at this moment to not being caught up with the series at all yet
mircea_popescu: "specifications". made by people with implicit assumptions. best sewage-wine everr!
diana_coman: ben_vulpes, as many other things before, keccak turned out to be yet another sort of ...problem before it can be of any use
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes what's that all about, you also flying over or something ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aha, specifics not nailed down yet
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 13:36 mircea_popescu: phf you've not said a word, how goes over there ?
phf: otherwise i'm coordinating with those interested in shipping here, so far it's only dpb who reached out to me
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> Te vas a McDonalds BingoBoingo ? What has Uruguay done to you? << I had to see that the locals can indeed be beaten into doing some sort of business and made to enjoy it.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes not much more than 16u or so though, so it stays rackable.
mircea_popescu: phf dja see basic problems with the plan as is, taking a dozen sets over ?
ben_vulpes: so anyone who can't get materiel to phf by takeoff may talk to me about hauling machines down south. i expect folks to cover freight, pitch in on the trip costs, and guarantee reimbursement for VAT/IVA should it be levied at the airport.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: currently estimating 3-6u, nothing nutty
ben_vulpes: nothing stopping me at that other than time though
ben_vulpes: oh and please to have machines at my domicile by the end of the month.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so you're thinking like early march ? are you stopping by here too ?
phf: ben_vulpes: aw sucks, i'll be in portlandia in early march, wanted to schedule a get together
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, one of the boxes flying with me has synced with my max aggression patch atop asciilifeform's aggressive pushgetblocks has climbed to 308K in 4 days
mircea_popescu: at the rate we're going we'll end up with the first l1 get together through planes crashing into each other sometime this year.
ben_vulpes: phf: well i'm flexible yet, gpg me some dates and i'll ensure to have time to say hello
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: gonna ship another box with the timing patch from aeons ago, sync to completion and then post
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if yr hospitality extends to me i'd love to stop in
BingoBoingo is specing a different power supply that will actually fit in a 2U case, but is requesting the quote
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: one interesting hiccup was that when i synced in vanilla "connect to wide net" mode, this new node somehow got stuck and also i think triggered some weirdo crash/wedge on another machine of mine with a raid array of rust that had until that moment been hanging at the tip of the spear, but when run with -connect to the self-same (restarted) node a) the rust caught back up within an hour and b)
ben_vulpes: the new box has been syncing unstoppedly since
ben_vulpes: and before you ask for logs from the wedged box -- it simply stopped writing logs. damndest thing.
ben_vulpes: i've another machine coming online this afternoon, i'll endeavour to reproduce
ben_vulpes: meanwhile elsewhere: "I found a nice place where people are so stupid you can make up that an imaginary friend propped up a knife and wounded you, and they will take you seriously. God bless r/tulpas."
mircea_popescu: diana_coman seems to me on the first pass the winning combo is 1.1 / 2.1 / 3.1 ; the phf objection to bit meaning precludes anything else it seems to me ; with the exception that won't bit-extraction (3.1) be particularly slow ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you two arrange to have teh nsa boxes shipped that way ?
mircea_popescu: did you work out something with ben_vulpes re taking nsa boxes over to bb.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 14:03 diana_coman: phf, can you help test keccak on big endian iron? see ^
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, if input+output are considered at octet level, there is a case to say that reading out of the state is also done at octet level; I'll mull this over a bit longer re speed as such (for the word-level implementation because the bit-level is just as slow either way)
☟︎ jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Yo voy a un leccion de español para un poco tiempo.
ben_vulpes: binance, an altcoin exchange with no representation in the forum, is down
trinque: BingoBoingo: good luck buddy, and don't let it piss you off
trinque: gotta squeeze the vendors!
trinque gets why mircea_popescu didn't want me squeezing the particular limb I grabbed, but still
BingoBoingo: There at least is a number and a timeline to offer other vendors to beat. That is all I want to say about the quote for cases and power supplies before mircea_popescu reads it. The suspense today has probably aged me five years...
trinque: "flushed her emotional support hamster" << wahahaha
trinque: if only there were a video.
TomServo: Now she'll have to step up to emotional support ardvark.
lobbes: "So she did what she felt was the most humane choice." My sides.. wtf. If situation wasn't absurd enough, the fact that she came to conclusion that "mammal slowly drowning in shitter" = moar humane than simply letting it loose in/around airport (or even taking a well placed shoe to it) puzzles me the most
lobbes: Bonus lulz if it did not, in fact, flush and next bathroom patron had a not-so-pleasant suprise upon looking down
phf: this must be a put on
phf: "For the past several years, we've moved toward a more secure web by strongly advocating that sites adopt HTTPS encryption. And within the last year, we've also helped users understand that HTTP sites are not secure by gradually marking a larger subset of HTTP pages as "not secure". Beginning in July 2018 with the release of Chrome 68, Chrome will mark all HTTP sites as "not secure"."
ben_vulpes: and you gotta use gcc 7 to get the spectre mitigations in gentoo
phf: gcc is unsafe, and this is all about making web safer for everyone.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: gcc has the ken thompson hack and llvm doesn't dontcha know
ben_vulpes: fuck this noise i'm getting my ase cert and going into rally cars
ben_vulpes: call me when btc crosses 100k and asciilifeform finally coughs up for the custom fab
trinque: gotta use gcc7 to get the spectre mitigations in *
trinque: PRETTY FUCKIN CONVENIENT ISN'T IT
☟︎ phf: to be fair that goes back to the idea entertained in logs for going back to single purpose devices. no need to fear root escalation if all and only users are root :>
trinque: myep, internet-connected devices are public devices, news at 11
phf: no, that's not what i said. internet connected devices are not inherently susceptible to spectre
trinque ought to have been more specific I guess. boxes with web browsers, or otherwise interpreting foreign non-signed data, are...
trinque: which aha, sort of trumped by the swiss cheese networking gear itself
phf: doing turing computation on behalf of non-wot-ed counterparties is haram
phf: so let it be written, so let it be done
phf: yes, scury away, chanserv, you to will fall in the first batlerian jihad.
ben_vulpes: subj. of 60s/70s fiction, /me rereading zelazny's chronicles of amber for the first time in over a decade. did not age as poorly as i expected.
phf: i reread chronicles about a year ago, "properly" this time by tracking down the entire set in pulp
phf: i think zelazny aged well, but then i'm biased, i grew up on stuff
phf: though i kind of like his random novels more at this point, lord of ligh, creates of light and darkness, jack of shadows, etc.
ben_vulpes: lord of light also on the reread list, i can't actually remember what it was about for the life of me it's been so long.
phf: he the most reminds me of the kind of teenage 70s-80s that i caught only tail end of, progrock, heavy metal magazine, d&d, church of satan, slew of those illustrators, like giger
phf: syd mead, jean giraud, dan simmons hyperion. the tail end of some adaquate boyhood culture
ben_vulpes: heh yeah the chronicles has a flavor very similar to that 'heavy metal' set of shorts
ben_vulpes: dude i just reread hyperion and fall of endymion too for the first time as an adult
ben_vulpes: girl put this miserable pulp "ninefox gambit" in front of me recently, and i've been bingeing to get the taste out of my mouth
ben_vulpes: as in actually homoerotic; with gay brotherly incest thrown in to boot
ben_vulpes: it's what you get for picking things based on "it was written by a queer person of color" rather than "it is actually good"
☟︎ phf: well, it's a slashfiction fiction slash. i've picked up a few "scifi" books and it all goes in that direction somehow
ben_vulpes: i muchly prefer the manly men doing manly stabbings and gambling and whoring tyvm
ben_vulpes: (given as my life is so very pedestrian probably)
ben_vulpes: and just to purge the queue, also read the last few books in the robert jordan and friends and children series and yup it ends exactly as you'd imagine good guys win bad guys get locked up for another eternity until the cycle starts all over again millenia hence
phf: i've not really heard about jordan until i came to u.s., and then from the usual suspects, so i didn't feel inclined to read him
ben_vulpes: i was infected by that one as an actual child
phf: i suspect the easter european equivalent would be andrzey sapkowski
phf: as in a kind of mindless high fantasy soap opera
phf had an easy in with a certain of kind girl growing up, because my dad new sapkowski and i still have a signed copy of miecz przeznaczenia somewhere
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ahahaa 6.6 grand pre their derpy tax for mounts ?
mircea_popescu: get the everloving fuck out of this planed, what the fuck is this.
mircea_popescu: my opinion is why the fuck am i working with these retardsa.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 20:37 phf: gcc is unsafe, and this is all about making web safer for everyone.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 20:40 trinque: PRETTY FUCKIN CONVENIENT ISN'T IT
a111: Logged on 2018-01-31 14:34 mp_en_viaje: so no, protected mode hasn;'t become because it offered. the pantsuit decided it must be, and therefore prevented the non-mongoloid child from offering.
phf: in america they like to put "special kids" into building with normal people, and there was a retard kid in one of the buildings i lived in, every time he saw a helicopter he'd start yelling "belly bopter! belly bopter!"
phf: weirdest things get stock in memory..
☟︎ trinque: too bad, a few generations on he could've been a 'tarded pilot.
phf: i can see that, they always have two pilots on commercial lines, so they'll just stick the two together, and it's an unwritten rule that the sane guy has to stay vigilant for the duration of the whole flight, but he can't say it, because he'll get fired.
phf: of course when they crash, it's always the sane guy's fault, "technical failure"
ben_vulpes: what kind of building was this phf, school?
trinque: kinda explains why a relation did so well on his way into an airline's training dept, only to promptly leave the job once had.
phf: ben_vulpes: nah, actually a swanky highrise. it's some kind of social program where they rent $3000 apartments to special needs kids, i suspect with some kind of discount--tax break deal
☟︎ ben_vulpes: "it was not evident at the time the nuances of where the doors would be" har har har
ben_vulpes: exactly the "get another car" thing mircea_popescu described
phf: would defeat the whole purpose, you want it to be conspicuous
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo ahahaa 6.6 grand pre their derpy tax for mounts ? << Before the 22% VAT no less
a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 01:18 mp_en_viaje: yeee. keep your cool, most common moment for things to be fucked up is upon first success.
ben_vulpes: how about this us stock market blowoff: 9% loss in less than a month! stocks clearly too volatile to be worth anything as grownup investments.
trinque: stocks down, bond yields up, and meanwhile congress just passed some gigantic expansion of the budget
☟︎ trinque: federal govt: "I'm not dead yet!"
BingoBoingo: !~later tell mircea_popescu
http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/6TNbp/?raw=true The whole email thread from this morning through their suggesting desktop power supplies to go with rackmount cases to my polite suggestion the numbers and timeline aren't acceptable. Fuck me, and fuck these monkeys with their SHHHH SHHH sounds. Fucking monkeys just have turned operation "Make BingoBoingo rich 2018" into a clusterfuck by entertaining the "Let's
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: No closing quotation
BingoBoingo: <trinque> BingoBoingo: good luck buddy, and don't let it piss you off << This wasn't a euphamism. Actual spanish lesson with the Venezolana dentist turned teacher.
trinque: ah I was reacting to the blog post
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 14:51 phf: in fact my bed&briekfast guy is very much "an old dutch moves to an indian village": "license costs 300rs, but they found another irregularity so i have to pay 10'000rs fee"
BingoBoingo: Still, I present "here is an emergency" Let's work through this. In the most charitable interpretation they decide to do what the PUA's call a shit test. In the most likely case an attempt at extortion. I was expecting "This pile costs X in lands with commerce, duties customs etc cost X, and transport costs Y depending on how fast we get it here."
phf: i'm not sure what the thinking is, but they can't really do anything that you can't do, as far as importing hardware. literally they'll have to do all the same steps + potentially navigating local import specifics
phf: so there's two points here, one is that you're opening yourself up for extortion commonly known as "valet service"
☟︎ phf: other point is that since we've never actually tried importing anything into uruguay that "+ local import specifics" might translate into extortion on the border (which, say, was sop in russia in the 90s)
phf: so the combination of those two points is that it's possible that dc knows about full overhead of import + they charge you for valet. considering that you're a ~random dude~ dropping serious cash on their server rack that is of right now entirely empty, it's safe for them to assume that you have mad american cash burning yer pockets
BingoBoingo: All I know is rack, human behavior. Connectivity, human behavior. Hardware MONKEYS!
phf: "all i know" is a poor stance to take in a situation that requires tactical thinking
BingoBoingo voy a caminar and burn more andrenalin off.
phf: you also could for example look at the gestalt of the dynamic process. rack and connectivity is their walk in bread and butter. they probably overcharged you, but not by much, because it was their first interaction with you. meanwhile dynamic process evolves. they are probably sad now that they didn't overcharge you more for rack, compensating on hardware (that's another alternative take on what's going on)
trinque: overcharged by 200/mo as per my own casual probing
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 21:13 ben_vulpes: it's what you get for picking things based on "it was written by a queer person of color" rather than "it is actually good"
mircea_popescu: by the time they advertise that sorta dumb shit, you know it belongs in the furnace.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 21:49 phf: weirdest things get stock in memory..
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 21:56 phf: ben_vulpes: nah, actually a swanky highrise. it's some kind of social program where they rent $3000 apartments to special needs kids, i suspect with some kind of discount--tax break deal
mircea_popescu: "“Walking into a building should not be any different based on income status,” Ms. Glen said in an interview." << inept pantsuit wank. the only way poor people walk into a human building is as long as they're female, before their 30th birthday and if they have enough sense not to put clothes on. what the everloving fuck is this, they're people now, the poor fucks ?!
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 22:33 trinque: stocks down, bond yields up, and meanwhile congress just passed some gigantic expansion of the budget
a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 22:37 BingoBoingo: Yo voy a caminar un poco.
trinque agrees, why fade away when you can burn out
mircea_popescu: anyway, pick an item from the actual suppliers lessee.
mircea_popescu: phf what's your guess as to your weight limit ? 20 ? 30 ? 50 ?
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-08#1782932 << the only point to my eyes is that someone fucked in the head enough to run something they call "datacenter" without one ton of spare racks laying about is not distinguishable from three twelve year old white boys in a "tree fort" running a "porn business" through taking complicatedly filtered ipad shots of their own palms.
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-02-08 22:56 phf: so there's two points here, one is that you're opening yourself up for extortion commonly known as "valet service"
mircea_popescu: if they don'\t have rackmounts, why exactly am i to believe they have, eg, generators.
mircea_popescu: seems to me the man without a spare in the trunk is also not going to have an engine in working order.
phf: 23kg two bags, each extra 11kg extra $100; obviously more packed -- higher chance of structural damage.
phf: it's a vacation spot, all the recommendations people send my way involve beaches, bitches and hot springs. i don't see why i should pack anything more than a pair of shorts
mircea_popescu: i see. the bitch with the rack mounts is that they're heavy.
mircea_popescu: anyway BingoBoingo do not omit to point to the monkeys that they're now the laughingstock of the internet as the ~only "datacenter" in the world that doesn't have enough sense to stock a pile of mounts for the customers.
phf: i mean, the question is how much ~i~ can carry, vs. how costly it's going to rapidly become
mircea_popescu: hard to believe uruguayan people manage to somehow eat, by now.
trinque: phf's "shit, didn't overcharge enough for the rack" hypothesis is pretty plausible.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo do you actually know what mounts you need/want exactly ? lemme know.
mircea_popescu: phf watch how five days ain't gonna even vaguely be enough sheesh.
phf: so when you guys say "racks", you mean chassis right?