shinohai: Just to make note in logs, I tested phf's vdiff changes as outlined on his blog, and got satisfactory results. Old version of vdiff failed as expected.
shinohai: (This was on a Gentoo, will try later on African linux)
ben_vulpes: > Despite this, we remain very optimistic about cryptocurrencies overall
☟︎ ben_vulpes: but precisely that with drop-in webforms and recurring payments and all sorts of tools for people who can't make their own
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 16:08 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought he was a student
ben_vulpes: live in the ghetto, scrape pennies to buy btc. zillion times better than investing in the stock market bezzle or any of the other mad 401k/roth lockup chumpatrons
ben_vulpes: sounds like mircea_popescu had a good afternoon
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:25 BingoBoingo: Nervous, carried self in manner that screamed latina holding more cash than accustomed to.
mircea_popescu: can pick whosoever is the mark through the trivial process of their all but screaming it.\
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:29 spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774654 <-- from my experience, learning for a purpose can lead to a personal place of misery. consider
http://trilema.com/2015/causes-and-purposes/ ; if anything, rather study computing *because* people who know computer systems are needed today (hard to believe they won't be needed tomorrow either) than for any imagined fame and glory. the romantic image of pentester belongs only to "hacker" movies
mircea_popescu: which is even a welcome fucking idea, no more of this "DANGEROUS CURVE AHEAD". bitch, i don't know your idea of "dangerous", say "curve type W64" and be fucking done with it.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:35 asciilifeform is astonished to regularly , as today, encounter folx who are apparently posting from a timewarp, maybe 1998-99 , where they labour under the delusion that 'why not go into programming, it's a guaranteed and comfortable living'
mircea_popescu: it's either programming, "psychopathy" or else you go on the dole. and no, the sort of job parole officer gets for you ain't anything BUT the sort of "job" "social worker" gets your sister, ie "sit home, be rapebait, here's your supplemental whatever card"
phf: like a shoe cobbler or a lathe machinist?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what honest fucking trades. like what, you open a lemonade stand, and through thrift and industry you end up owning all of the east end lemonade trade ?
mircea_popescu: by all means alf, go, be cock-tail waitress in vegas!!1
mircea_popescu: yes, but that takes skill. waitressing takes a pulse and not oversleeping too often because you whored out / smoked yourself blank the previous night.
mircea_popescu: which is the traditional point of the expression "union town" : a job you ~could~ do, but won't be allowed to.
mircea_popescu: ie, there's two ways to control overabundant supply : through price and through convention. the union is the latter mechanism.\
mircea_popescu: meanwhile "programming", in the sense (and i quote exactly), "I'm working in corporation in finance and procurement department, so I can sum up my life with : excel, excel, excel, SAP, a little bit more excel" is not actuially a job 90% opf the walkers can do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform romanian has it. it's mostly used to denote taking the bus w/o a ticket / going to exam with a cheating mind.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:53 lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774737 << btw, ty ben_vulpes for writing this article. After I get archive .zip delivery up and running I will be taking time to get my castle in order. This will include: 1) learning 'v' 2) get a working trb 3) testing my damn fgs already 4) ffa chapter 1 (at least)
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:59 spyked: re naggum article, "programming is both similar and different. whether you are a user or a programmer these days is often hard to tell (this has good qualities to it, too)" <-- this user/programmer dichotomy being a direct consequence of
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774116 maybe? ftr, /me started with a microcomputer and first thing he could do with it, by nature, was program it. even if the "program" consisted merely of LOAD ""
mircea_popescu: that's the modern "computer user" : the punchcard girl of ibm days.
mircea_popescu: has nfi what the holes do but can tell you the bell rang at an unexpected time.
mod6: lobbes is doing good things huh
mircea_popescu: mod6 top of the list of potential inductees for this year methinks.
mod6: i like it. pay attention readers.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: we gotta have a conversation about gender balance and bias in this republic.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 18:26 asciilifeform: in su also folx made boxes like this.
shinohai: "Benebit, one of this year’s most hyped ICOs, has pulled an exit scam .... The fraud only came to light after someone noticed that the team photos had been stolen from a school website."
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 18:29 spyked should take some photos next time he goes to the faculty; maybe grab some docs for the archaeologists
mircea_popescu: also fyi, "faculty" is how you say the body of teachers, maybe. it dun has the ro meaning at all whatsoever. university would work, campus, whatever.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 18:39 phf: afair though, the subset of commands that we have in vdiff can be reduced to portable awk (i had it working on mac os x), but i don't remember what the necessary changes are. someone mentioned that busybox awk fails..
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:25 phf: if you're in the first category, you're going to be paid peanuts to do bitch work, if you're in the later category then by 19 (or whatever) "how to pentest career!1" is going to be ~the last fucking question~ you're going to ask a channel full of autodidacts
mircea_popescu: did we do an "ye olde dacs on serial port" thread yet ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:23 trinque: fees have come *way* down.
mircea_popescu: lotta wasted time. phf has it, where's your edited civ savefiles ffs.\
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform where's your logline saying "well, of course office drone is going to build by parts, wtf else is he gonna do"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, that actually was a known problem at the time! i REMEBER THIS
mircea_popescu: now if only i had a blog from 1993 i could dig in and find what the fix was.
mircea_popescu: but yes it was the damned intro. maybe it comes to me.
mircea_popescu: in THAT specific variant, imo it gains a lot from the speaker.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it was the rondeau by mouret. but it never heard a proper variant played on like yopu klnow, actual fucking musical instruments, that i even half as much liked.
phf: that was cm-500, it's got flatter soundbank than mt-32. but to be honest first time i heard either was after i moved to us, and it's frankly weird to hear all those classic tunes in such epic renditions. though i guess soundblaster that everyone had in ru wasn't bad either
mircea_popescu: now this is going to run on loop in my house and the girls will lose their mind and come seek you alf and tear your liver out before your eyes
phf: asciilifeform: capitalist!
mircea_popescu: anyway, trident was actually a pretty great maker, in q/$ terms at least.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:47 lobbes: Never once did I encounter "interested in something? Here's how you could keep following that interest"
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:52 phf: i can see the education angle, and how it fails these people, but what i'm surprised about is the lack of personal drive? it's some kind of learned helplessness
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774916 << he has it exactly ; for all the "intrinsic humanity" blah blah, humans are contextual automatons. "it would have never occured me to x" is the most common comment in all natural languages, unvoiced because so fucking trite.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:54 lobbes: It appears such to someone with actual skills such as phf. But for one for whom it is a "well, what else is there?", it seems like the rational move
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774921 << amusingly i read it as a "well, gotta put best foot forward and don best suit", kinda unconvinced of why or what the fuck subjhectively, "but what can you do". which is why i just ignored it, triggered none of my tripwires. while apparently hitting TWO DIFFERENT!!! immune system protein pathways in two different people.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 20:03 trinque: kid was virtue signaling hard, "am strapping lad, going places!"
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 20:04 ben_vulpes: ours mostly
phf: which 3rd grade is that?
mircea_popescu: you understand, in frege's day "inquiries into the nature of numbers" were VERY uninteresting to kids in teh gymnasium
mircea_popescu: this is not because the notion of number "is light on math -- 3rd grade". but specifically because it is not. nothing odf the fucking sort.
mircea_popescu: the notion of gravity is not elementary. the notion of magnetism is so fucking elementary it was observed 1k years before electricity and it still lacks a proper model.
mircea_popescu: the notion of number requires a phd. and ffs is more fundamental math than things such as infinitesimal calculus.
mircea_popescu: that is always frege. or w/e, spinoza if you prefer, or so on. a whiole school of lens polishers.
mircea_popescu: you are a terrible classifier, you know that ? seriously, ffa, 3rd grade ? what next, telekinesis, preschool ?
mircea_popescu: it is inquiry into fundamental meaning of algorithmic computation.
mircea_popescu: what clouds your eyes is the notion that "civillian dun need to understand why, it will work for him". yes, but he has to understand why ~TO USE IT~. see ?
phf: ascii still labours under soviet system: "hygiene is useful, you will also get shot for not doing it"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and ffs is more fundamental math than << ffa, obviously.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 20:04 trinque: which, it's sorta appropriate for the age. it's frankly someone else's fault the strapping lads aren't being forced into productive activity.
mircea_popescu: ideal humanity would have constructed ladder of pseudouseful ("hey, make your own V!") to support the kids until they grow the fucking graybeard spontaneously on 3xth birthday so they don't go off the deep end as antsy 16yos/26yos with no release
mircea_popescu: but real humanity is approximately speaking antiideal.
mircea_popescu: THIRTEEN was the age of majority for french kinds. by then "they had seen a few wars, fucked a few horses, rode a few women, ready to rule"
mircea_popescu: in other news, apparently yahoo owns tumblr ? i had no idea.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774947 << this is not clearly so. teacher with ruler function was to teach them bravery (more properly, unteach them the innate cowardice of human race). this is subtly different ; there's also a subtle difference between empathy as "capacity to model" and the bare capacity to model as such -- yes the similarity between mouse that loves a mouse and spider that eats a mouse is that they both
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 20:22 phf: trinque: the function used to be performed by a teacher with a ruler
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 01:33 ben_vulpes: > Despite this, we remain very optimistic about cryptocurrencies overall
mircea_popescu: or was that square or circle or whatever random word the pantsuit is trying to steal today.
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder the sad strip of land on either side of ocean doesn't consist of idiots running in and out of doors with barrels, trying to steal the sunlight in them.
mircea_popescu: why, there's many towns all through asia built on tigdic principles.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 03:52 phf: ascii still labours under soviet system: "hygiene is useful, you will also get shot for not doing it"
mircea_popescu: in other shit you never heard before, new slut claims to have read the previous month's worth of logs ~last night~. i think i'm moving the bar to "a minimum of 65 years' worth of log reading" on the basis of this one datapoint.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 23:00 spyked: hi! sorry for the radio silence. I've been working myself out of various irl swamps lately (still in progress). following in read-only mode though.
spyked: (ftr, /me got his first ubuntu cd "for free" at a "computer conference" mid-2000s; fortunately, his first linux install was a red hat at a now defunct internet cafe in bucharest; to this day I have no idea why they wanted me to install that, 90% of the people went there for "counter strike", the other 10% for diablo 2)
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 02:59 mircea_popescu: also fyi, "faculty" is how you say the body of teachers, maybe. it dun has the ro meaning at all whatsoever. university would work, campus, whatever.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in other news, apparently yahoo owns tumblr ? i had no idea. << Happened a while back during the "Yahoo as conduit for funneling money into brands" era
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 11263.32, vol: 14111.24022126 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 11260.0, vol: 55991.9773463 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 11284.5, vol: 5284.52937027 | Volume-weighted last average: 11262.3388454
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 02:36 mod6: i like it. pay attention readers.
lobbes: Phunphakt: USGoogle, on a search for "betters" returns the definition along with the classification "dated; humurous" so as to implicitly reinforce "all things equal" mantra
lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775207 << impressive. Makes me think about the self-referential nature of logs. As time moves forward, being able to say "I read x unit-of-time worth of logs" will require more and more reading to comprehend same unit-of-time due to growing "webs of threads"
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 05:42 mircea_popescu: in other shit you never heard before, new slut claims to have read the previous month's worth of logs ~last night~. i think i'm moving the bar to "a minimum of 65 years' worth of log reading" on the basis of this one datapoint.
mircea_popescu: "here i am with mom and my younger sister -- who will be doing this next year!"
a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 20:26 asciilifeform:
http://armoredco.in links also to various mircea_popescu items, e.g. the airgap article
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 01:41 asciilifeform: studentloanhelp.me also him ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 01:42 asciilifeform: and, motherfucker, biffsbets.com .
ben_vulpes: !!up RagnarDanneskjol i don't need anything, wrapping up a tiny mystery
deedbot: RagnarDanneskjol voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: Well, alf did you see the quality of his Chinese gurl interviews
a111: Logged on 2015-01-05 10:23 RagnarDanneskjol: i was keeping it at deedbot.com but now thats outdated too
ben_vulpes: i have a vague memory of his pushing some kid to do it?
BingoBoingo: He may have lined punkman up for it or something
RagnarDanneskjol: Yes, I tried to get a few people to help with deedbot, at pools, etc in the past
RagnarDanneskjol: I have registered a ton of domains for friends who don't like using Banks over the years.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 20:24 asciilifeform: in other oddities from asciilifeform's wwwtron referlog :
http://armoredcoin.org << anybody here wants to confess to authorship of this ? it claims interop with trb , compliance with asciilifeform's '7laws' , etc
RagnarDanneskjol: Because it was just an idea I started sketching out one night and it wasn't for anyone's consumption or consideration other than myself at this point
RagnarDanneskjol: It's just a model of how I do my own air gap wallet signing and I thought I would build it into something else. No it's not concrete or whatever I'll go ahead and delete all of it right now so you don't have to worry about it. I guess the date was a time frame I wanted to put on myself for some reason. I don't even remember
RagnarDanneskjol: If you'd like to test one of the kits out for yourself I'm happy to send it to you for free
trinque: imagine with all the faffing about you did here, you could've done something worthwhile
RagnarDanneskjol: That was a page where I used to keep all sorts of fabulous links from Qntra, the whet, trilema, etc
RagnarDanneskjol: Again it was only for my own personal reference And archiving purposes. I never shared it with anybody as far as I know
RagnarDanneskjol: Yes I keep things on public www so it forces me to maintain and update my content. I think the adspace is just leftover from the template I borrowed from drudgereport
RagnarDanneskjol: I am just busywith work, often reading the logs in several weeks behind and doing extensive requisite study to actually keep up with you boys. I'm happy to commit some time when it avails.... I've even gone and upset the boss now because I didn't have enough time to train ornamental candidates on VPN/irc stuff
ben_vulpes: i don't see this actually forcing you to maintain and update the content either
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 17:47 asciilifeform: RagnarDanneskjol: 'biffsbets.com', you or not you ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 17:47 RagnarDanneskjol: I have registered a ton of domains for friends who don't like using Banks over the years.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 17:48 asciilifeform: faststudentdebtrelief.com ?
shinohai: I guarantee even my financially handicapped self can register a domain right now, no bank needed.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you're still missing an address for the dc ; and is that number their actual acct # with their bank or is it some sort of corp registrstration number or what.
mircea_popescu: don't they have a fucking iban like sane people in uruguay ?
BingoBoingo: The number following S.A. on the Beneficiario Final is their account number
mircea_popescu: aite, now get an address. like you know, street address.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 17:07 lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775207 << impressive. Makes me think about the self-referential nature of logs. As time moves forward, being able to say "I read x unit-of-time worth of logs" will require more and more reading to comprehend same unit-of-time due to growing "webs of threads"
mircea_popescu: wouldja mind putting it all together into an item plox\
TomServo:
https://archive.is/t0xSC << somewhat interesting tale here, featuring 'dark web' drug purchases and murder-for-hire in lieu of a divorce. Also possible parallel construction.
mircea_popescu: you know... one of these days, in your good time, you might switch to the new p.bvlupes format...
shinohai: Maybe he's a Final Fantasy player
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated jcpham 1 at 2012/09/28 05:08:54 << He was going to get less than a house but more than a car from pirate. Except then he didn't.
mircea_popescu: !!rate jcpham -1 fucktard that showed up early and proved to be useless ; got butthurt over his attempt at paintsuit injection being rebuffed back when i was trying to ROTA, has been hoovering ever since trying to affect the specific sort of libertard aloofness that makes it all okay in their religion.
mircea_popescu: eh, the minor disadvantage of lordship, gotta keep public records more or less in shape.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated copumpkin 1 at 2012/04/01 22:17:41 << Old hand. Long time, no see.
shinohai: NSA Deletes “Honesty” and “Openness” From Core Values <<< kek
mircea_popescu: !!rate copumpkin -1 utter pantsuit shithead, willing to cut his own head if that helps pretend everyone's equal.
mircea_popescu: !!rate covertress -1 mendacious lulzcow, entertained with idle posturing (of the "businesswoman" flavour) sometime in prehistory.
shinohai: lol I think covertress wound up getting lost at sea, after the switch from ETH to Proof-of-Stake failed spectacularly.
mircea_popescu: heh. do you recall that earlier exact copy, transvestite idiot with "a business" ?
ben_vulpes: shinohai: switch from eth to proof of stake? that's...not parsing over here
shinohai: ben_vulpes: She had a clone coin that incorporated "smart contracts" like ETH, it got pwnd twice. So then they totally switched it to a blackcoin clone. Also failed.
shinohai: She had a way of instilling those, despite my best efforts at trying to show her the light.
mircea_popescu: jesus fuck i have nigh on 400 ratings, this is unseemly.
mircea_popescu will be stuck spending a whole fucking day managing this mess into a shape
mircea_popescu: !!v BBC740DC7F1D8C17617470BC72AC0AA76908E07E25FA92110E99B943AC0FFEBD
deedbot: mircea_popescu unrated pwrcycle.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated kreal 2 at 2011/07/26 00:08:44 << bought 60btc via pp, smooth.
mircea_popescu: "i sold 60 btc back in 2011 ; nothing came of me." pshaw.
mircea_popescu: !!rate nanotube -1 took the blue pill at some point prior to the republic, chasing the tenure dream somewhere lost in the imperial wastes.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: !!v 49E6B95BD59BEECBC0C1603914462623AE7D3EE36F5F256A4E01E3AA5C13943B
deedbot: mircea_popescu unrated smickles.
mircea_popescu: !!rate onefixt -1 bought pirate "debt" against protorepublican consensus at the time, went bankrupt for it. there's a lesson in there.
mircea_popescu: !!rate cory -1 hovering about since forever, came to nothing to date, and that's all the time he had.
mircea_popescu: !!rate dub -1 been around since forever, came to nothing whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: !!rate midnightmagic -1 hovering about since forever, came to nothing to date, and that's all the time he had.
mircea_popescu: !!rate pankkake -1 random nut, various emotional issues of the cuck variety.
mircea_popescu: !!rate thickasthieves -1 rando with no useful skills and various emotional issues of the cuck variety bonus on the side.
mircea_popescu: yo mike! are you staying or going, wtf is going on, eh.
mircea_popescu: !!rate cazalla 1 ex qntra, meanwhile lost in reproductive ruralia.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated TomServo 1 at 2014/04/15 21:39:46 << New blood.
mircea_popescu: TomServo coming or going ? 2014 new blood rating ain't gonna stand as such.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: Been here since 2012 I think, prolly got some more years left.
TomServo: Reading logs daily, got my node running. More in time.
shinohai: The blood .... it runs deep today.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: Next is likely getting a copy of mp-wp up and running, posting some fg test results.
TomServo: Glacial as far as? Having kids certainly didn't help my pace.
mircea_popescu: " Been here since 2012 I think" <<->> "Next is likely getting a copy of mp-wp up and running, posting some fg test results."
mircea_popescu: !!unrate pierre_rochard -1 promising youth that came to nothing.
TomServo: heh, just recently acquired the fg. Didn't want to start a blog just to emit noise.
mircea_popescu: !!rate pierre_rochard -1 promising youth that came to nothing.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: TomServo how is this related to what we're discussing ?
mircea_popescu: coming or going, dood, it's a thing. there's no sitting in the doorway.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated rdymac 1 at 2014/12/07 07:20:01 << electrum web guy.
mircea_popescu: !!rate funkenstein_ -1 i can't even recall what exactly he got butthurt over, but has been hoovering ever since trying to affect the specific sort of libertard aloofness that makes it all okay in their religion.
mircea_popescu: !!rate Chillum -1 could have had, did not, there's no way out of it now.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated joecool 1 at 2015/05/07 16:00:17 << Approximately new blood :p
trinque: that was before I snagged it from ... RagnarDanneskjol
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated gernika 1 at 2015/07/04 18:39:41 << Managed to press 99996
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of apocalyptic from 2 to -1 << went off to heathendom; apparently it's all the same to him
deedbot: asciilifeform unrated assbot.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform shit, give it a minute till i finish, it doesn't do the name per line thing and we'll end up confused.
mircea_popescu: !!rate psztorc -1 the significant cost of the freedom of choice delusion.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated crescendo -1 at 2015/09/24 21:29:35 << Aka Eric Martindale. Nice job trying to sell me/MPEx bitpay shares a week before information was to come out that'd render them worthless. Say hello to Daphna for me.
mircea_popescu: anyone recall that ? "o hey, it got gigavps kicked out of bitcoin, but i don't know any history so why the hell not!"
lobbes: Phew. товарищ маузер has been busy today
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated polarbeard 1 at 2016/01/22 17:39:19 << Managed a V press.
mircea_popescu: !!rate DicePower -1 tried teh anal child behaviour, didn't do anything for him. by all means, "he just didn't try it the right way", i'm sure.
mircea_popescu: dooglus yo, i like you, but at some point you'll have to choose between sticking with the stockholm syndrome and moving on with your life. i'd like to hear it explicitly ; and for that matter so would you.
mircea_popescu: ^ dude got raped by the canadian government, who the fuck heard of this nonsense, "you are a respected businessman with a functioning business, here's the petrol"
mircea_popescu: he's older and has a lot of that protestant "thou shalt not make a scandal" cockroaches in his head.
mircea_popescu: orderly wound down. which in itself is a feat in this space.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so ? a principle is not "this thing i believe while it pays me to do so"
ben_vulpes: he is also in my koch-rsa l1, what of it?
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated herbijudlestoids 1 at 2017/06/03 04:25:59 << missed on all the things.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated pa1atine 1 at 2017/08/01 22:53:29 << Italian lawyer guy, apparently.
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated edivad 1 at 2017/08/09 07:21:16 << painter/student
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated ccmtacks 1 at 2017/10/11 17:10:45 << Internet Marketing kid.
shinohai: Hey the smiley face turned into cyclops!
mircea_popescu: incidentally, deedbot behaving quite well ounder heavy loads...
deedbot: Tiraspol voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of BingoBoingo from 3 to 4 << long history of consistently doing The Right Thing; bisp expeditionary force; inquire within.
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of mike_c from 4 to 1 << fg user; tmsr lord in abeyance
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of trinque from 2 to 4 << texas lisper; author and operator of deedbot ; experimental vtronics work
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of apeloyee from 2 to 3 << A - N*floor(A*R/4^K) < 2*N and much more, inquire within
trinque: runs at UTC midnight, and I may have broken it when I added mircea_popescu's requested vdiff of each svg
trinque: we'll find out in about an hour
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of danielpbarron from 2 to 3 << operates heathenbux-denominated FUCKGOATS dealership; trb experimenter; history of doing The Right Thing
deedbot: asciilifeform rated shinohai 1 at 2015/08/01 16:39:32 << therealbitcoin testing
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mircea_popescu: in other news, diana_coman now using "faffing about" ; trinque prevails linguistically!
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 03:32 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774906 << publish it sometime ; and also since on this trinque i'd like to use whatever wot.deedbot uses to spit the round svg graph to make a "trilema article links" thing. can i get it somewhere ?
trinque: oh wait, d'oh, ben_vulpes wins!
mircea_popescu: for the record, i find it impossible to discern sense and nonsense in this dijkstra article, they're so tightly coupled together.
mircea_popescu: so, the differential of computing speed and movement speed are not directly comparable as he proposes.
mircea_popescu: there's no substantial difference "that has to be accounted for" between bridging the san francisco bay and bridging the mostly dry three metre wide obscure rivulet in ontario that are due to "hey, 3 degrees of magnitude distance ! 12 degrees of magnitude water debit!!" etcetera nonsense.
mircea_popescu: one's in the winter and the other's in the ocean are the important considerations there.
mircea_popescu: applying the "o noes, computer is much faster now" meme as if it meant something only drives home the nonsensical view that "computer is faster". which it fucking isn't, computer of today is well slower than computer of 1980.
mircea_popescu: this is not an isolated flaw : his notion that "oh, those dumb spanyards who didn't think at university" is a typically ustardian misretelling of counter-imagined history.
mircea_popescu: in point of fact, his nonsensical discussion of radical novelties has one effect and one effect only : to drive the pantsuit narrative.
mircea_popescu: there is ~something~ there being parasitized by all the nonsense, but it is screamingly NOT what he tries to make it be.
mircea_popescu: ie they expected a continuous process where n osuch thing was available ?
mircea_popescu: this is substantially fine ; but as presented it's a jumble of disjoints. resistance of the medium is in there, but not alone.
mircea_popescu: (quite literal example, impedance is the EXACT name of resistance of medium to em )
mircea_popescu: instead he mentions that some guy said nobody will ever run a 5 second 100m.
mircea_popescu: "how to program if you cannot" is an absolutely fine soundbyte ; and correctly descriptive. but reading the stuff it is mouted in, i can't help but think maybe he meant something entirely else than what it self-evidently means.
mircea_popescu: people have bene FAFFING ABOUT with "bdsm" and "castles in europe" for FIFTY YEARS.
mircea_popescu: dont' give me the "woulda but couldn't". fucktarded bikers had their own republic.
lobbesbot: Logged on 2016-01-23 23:05:59: <diana_coman> I suppose on really short ones there isn't enough time for all the faffing about anyway; the io thing is 100secs in my books
mircea_popescu: do you picture him better going to academia in the same continous way, and faffing about "o, radical nvoelties" ?
mircea_popescu: there's no 19yo biker. there's mostly 50-something war veteran.
mircea_popescu: the pic linked at some point, with the two sluts being fucked on bikes in the 60s, was remarkable specifically because those two guys might've been the yhoungest bike owners in history.
mircea_popescu: i deplore the archeologists of the future ; for whatever they do they shall be wrong.
mircea_popescu: shinohai hey, i spent more on weapons systems than computers this year, for the first time since republic.
mircea_popescu: as the saying goes, "and next year -- we launch rockets"
shinohai: Well, republic needs missles too.