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shinohai: Just to make note in logs, I tested phf's vdiff changes as outlined on his blog, and got satisfactory results. Old version of vdiff failed as expected.
shinohai: (This was on a Gentoo, will try later on African linux)
mod6: Thanks shinohai!
shinohai: np!
ben_vulpes: stripe dropping bitcoin support
ben_vulpes: > Despite this, we remain very optimistic about cryptocurrencies overall ☟︎
ben_vulpes: prepare for the lost decade of alts
ben_vulpes: https://stripe.com/blog/ending-bitcoin-support
asciilifeform: dafuq is 'stripe'
ben_vulpes: don't-call-it-a-credit-card-gateway
ben_vulpes: but precisely that with drop-in webforms and recurring payments and all sorts of tools for people who can't make their own
mod6: hai mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: o hai there.
mod6: how goes today?
mircea_popescu: oh, today was epic!
mod6: nice
mircea_popescu is cooking up article.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774802 << nah, he got his phd years ago iirc. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 16:08 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought he was a student
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774819 << he's like 19 and in chicago. this was in the logs! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 16:37 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774669 << if you're in usa or europistan, that's a 'staying above water' wage, nobody's retiring on that, 'early' or late or otherwise
ben_vulpes: live in the ghetto, scrape pennies to buy btc. zillion times better than investing in the stock market bezzle or any of the other mad 401k/roth lockup chumpatrons
mircea_popescu: either that or photograph tucans in the wild.
mircea_popescu: DRESSED IN A SUIT.
asciilifeform: speaking of optics , asciilifeform found today that chinese sell a qrcode-reader thing, the size of a matchbox, with rs232 output (i.e. self-contained, needs no softwarism) , eats 5v , ~20bux
ben_vulpes: sounds like mircea_popescu had a good afternoon
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774856 << loller. this, btw, VERY much a thing. i dunno how they survive, but if i wanted to make a life as a thief here, easily could. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:25 BingoBoingo: Nervous, carried self in manner that screamed latina holding more cash than accustomed to.
mircea_popescu: can pick whosoever is the mark through the trivial process of their all but screaming it.\
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774857 << speaking of this, it occured to me earlier in teh car that if the current "intelligent car ; self drives" trend continue (as it doubtless will), the net result will in short order be a standardization of curves. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:29 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774654 <-- from my experience, learning for a purpose can lead to a personal place of misery. consider http://trilema.com/2015/causes-and-purposes/ ; if anything, rather study computing *because* people who know computer systems are needed today (hard to believe they won't be needed tomorrow either) than for any imagined fame and glory. the romantic image of pentester belongs only to "hacker" movies
mircea_popescu: which is even a welcome fucking idea, no more of this "DANGEROUS CURVE AHEAD". bitch, i don't know your idea of "dangerous", say "curve type W64" and be fucking done with it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774865 << what is the fucking alternative, if you're not the sort that can shoot someone in the head, all point blank and cool as shit ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:35 asciilifeform is astonished to regularly , as today, encounter folx who are apparently posting from a timewarp, maybe 1998-99 , where they labour under the delusion that 'why not go into programming, it's a guaranteed and comfortable living'
asciilifeform: dunno, honest trades ?
mircea_popescu: it's either programming, "psychopathy" or else you go on the dole. and no, the sort of job parole officer gets for you ain't anything BUT the sort of "job" "social worker" gets your sister, ie "sit home, be rapebait, here's your supplemental whatever card"
phf: like a shoe cobbler or a lathe machinist?
asciilifeform: there are still such things as welders, sailors, machinists, surgeons, etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what honest fucking trades. like what, you open a lemonade stand, and through thrift and industry you end up owning all of the east end lemonade trade ?
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: you never heard the expression "union town" have you
mircea_popescu: by all means alf, go, be cock-tail waitress in vegas!!1
asciilifeform: errything's a uniontown. incl. the sort of programming anybody might actually want to be involved with
mircea_popescu: yes, but that takes skill. waitressing takes a pulse and not oversleeping too often because you whored out / smoked yourself blank the previous night.
mircea_popescu: which is the traditional point of the expression "union town" : a job you ~could~ do, but won't be allowed to.
mircea_popescu: ie, there's two ways to control overabundant supply : through price and through convention. the union is the latter mechanism.\
asciilifeform: блат aha
asciilifeform: ( is there an engl word for it, btw ? )
mircea_popescu: meanwhile "programming", in the sense (and i quote exactly), "I'm working in corporation in finance and procurement department, so I can sum up my life with : excel, excel, excel, SAP, a little bit more excel" is not actuially a job 90% opf the walkers can do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform romanian has it. it's mostly used to denote taking the bus w/o a ticket / going to exam with a cheating mind.
asciilifeform: very diff item
mircea_popescu: yes.
ben_vulpes: subject of controlling supply: https://nypost.com/2018/01/21/police-union-slashes-number-of-get-out-of-jail-free-cards-issued/
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774866 <<< epic. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:53 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774737 << btw, ty ben_vulpes for writing this article. After I get archive .zip delivery up and running I will be taking time to get my castle in order. This will include: 1) learning 'v' 2) get a working trb 3) testing my damn fgs already 4) ffa chapter 1 (at least)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774869 << no, it's because the boys wanted to grab ass so they introduced the punched card to have a reason to hire a buncha secretaries. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 17:59 spyked: re naggum article, "programming is both similar and different. whether you are a user or a programmer these days is often hard to tell (this has good qualities to it, too)" <-- this user/programmer dichotomy being a direct consequence of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774116 maybe? ftr, /me started with a microcomputer and first thing he could do with it, by nature, was program it. even if the "program" consisted merely of LOAD ""
mircea_popescu: that's the modern "computer user" : the punchcard girl of ibm days.
mircea_popescu: has nfi what the holes do but can tell you the bell rang at an unexpected time.
mod6: lobbes is doing good things huh
mircea_popescu: mod6 top of the list of potential inductees for this year methinks.
mod6: i like it. pay attention readers. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: list?
ben_vulpes: he's...it
mircea_popescu: what, no transgendered people ?!
mod6: lmao
mircea_popescu: we gotta have a conversation about gender balance and bias in this republic.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774880 << communism was harsh but at least it kept the idiots down. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 18:26 asciilifeform: in su also folx made boxes like this.
shinohai: "Benebit, one of this year’s most hyped ICOs, has pulled an exit scam .... The fraud only came to light after someone noticed that the team photos had been stolen from a school website."
shinohai: ta-da!
mircea_popescu: durr
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774882 << great blog fodder in any case. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 18:29 spyked should take some photos next time he goes to the faculty; maybe grab some docs for the archaeologists
mircea_popescu: also fyi, "faculty" is how you say the body of teachers, maybe. it dun has the ro meaning at all whatsoever. university would work, campus, whatever. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774891 << and why is it you don't remember ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 18:39 phf: afair though, the subset of commands that we have in vdiff can be reduced to portable awk (i had it working on mac os x), but i don't remember what the necessary changes are. someone mentioned that busybox awk fails..
asciilifeform: he meant факультет lol
mircea_popescu: ayup.
asciilifeform: in usa that's a 'department' but i hate the wurd
mircea_popescu: yes. and also it's not a proper "going to" anyway.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774901 << fu, i went to school! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:25 phf: if you're in the first category, you're going to be paid peanuts to do bitch work, if you're in the later category then by 19 (or whatever) "how to pentest career!1" is going to be ~the last fucking question~ you're going to ask a channel full of autodidacts
asciilifeform: btw in re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775021 , http://www.deep-shadows.com/hax/wordpress/?page_id=364 << handmade 'soundblaster'-compat ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 02:39 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774880 << communism was harsh but at least it kept the idiots down.
mircea_popescu: did we do an "ye olde dacs on serial port" thread yet ?
asciilifeform: parallel
asciilifeform: !#s covox
a111: 6 results for "covox", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=covox
asciilifeform: yep
mircea_popescu: there we go.
asciilifeform still has his somewhere, built inside one of those hardcases vhs tapes sometimes came in
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774899 << the most concerning aspect to my eye is what asciilifeform calls "xp pointism" or whaty was it, basically he's swallowed the oreilly/pmarca hunk of nonsense and is scorting imaginary points "in" an imaginary "community". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:23 trinque: fees have come *way* down.
mircea_popescu: next he'll be going to conferences.
asciilifeform: linked item is notable however because not a covox : it emulates the isa sb, which had a microcontroller, but ~without~ one, with raw ttl fsm
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pointism << depending on age -- curable
asciilifeform: at 19 imho is on the border
mircea_popescu: lotta wasted time. phf has it, where's your edited civ savefiles ffs.\
asciilifeform: speaking of which, i tried to civ1 on that hp800 box, and it dies with div0 during the intro ( drops to shell, stays in 320*200 tho, and... music -- keeps playing!? somehow! )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform where's your logline saying "well, of course office drone is going to build by parts, wtf else is he gonna do"
asciilifeform: apparently not ~quite~ 'ibmcompat'
asciilifeform: hm?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, that actually was a known problem at the time! i REMEBER THIS
asciilifeform: nowai
mircea_popescu: yes wai.
asciilifeform: i never saw...
mircea_popescu: now if only i had a blog from 1993 i could dig in and find what the fix was.
asciilifeform: not even on my shit 'cyrix' 40
mircea_popescu: eventually fixed.
mircea_popescu: but yes it was the damned intro. maybe it comes to me.
asciilifeform: civ1 for me was ~the~ civ.
asciilifeform: i admit, i was tempted, last night, to actually debug the crash
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKsLWiPtSWY << teh english tune was for a while my favourite piece of music.
asciilifeform: then thought 'wtf am i doing, wai'
mircea_popescu: in THAT specific variant, imo it gains a lot from the speaker.
asciilifeform: sounds like roland
mircea_popescu: now i gotta find this.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it was the rondeau by mouret. but it never heard a proper variant played on like yopu klnow, actual fucking musical instruments, that i even half as much liked.
asciilifeform: i liked the 'ru' ( blatant 'дубинушка' ) intro. and ditto
asciilifeform: i never did have a roland tho
mircea_popescu: twasnt the roland, wrong link. the gfx tricked me
asciilifeform realizes that he can, more or less, play back whole civ1 soundtrack in his head
phf: that was cm-500, it's got flatter soundbank than mt-32. but to be honest first time i heard either was after i moved to us, and it's frankly weird to hear all those classic tunes in such epic renditions. though i guess soundblaster that everyone had in ru wasn't bad either
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A_HZAsa2Sw << thjere, 2mins in
phf: haha, more like it.
mircea_popescu: oya.
asciilifeform: lol pcspeakr civ
mircea_popescu: now this is going to run on loop in my house and the girls will lose their mind and come seek you alf and tear your liver out before your eyes
asciilifeform: i had 'adlib' by the time i got copy of civ
mircea_popescu: which is a fitting fate!
phf: asciilifeform: capitalist!
asciilifeform: it was quite decent on adlib
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: i dun think i ever had a box with vga but not at least an adlib in it
mircea_popescu: i ~never bought sound cards.
mircea_popescu: fuck that, gime one of the vidcards with THREE FANS
mircea_popescu: and TRIPLE AGP SITTINGS!
asciilifeform: lol the box of the era had maybe 1 fan -- in ps
asciilifeform: ( i miss how quiet the 486 was , actually )
mircea_popescu: box of 1 fan in ps era had ega not vga
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVUJjPzRb2U << proper item. much better, utterly no good.
asciilifeform: http://www.vgamuseum.info/index.php/news/item/445-trident-tvga9000i-3 << 1st vga i had
mircea_popescu: tvga! wtf is that, tandy with serials altered ?
asciilifeform: trident
mircea_popescu: yaok.
asciilifeform: iirc taiwan
mircea_popescu: taiwega.
mircea_popescu: anyway, trident was actually a pretty great maker, in q/$ terms at least.
asciilifeform: cheap and angry, but worked, no obvious flaws
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at hot-stop, http://78.media.tumblr.com/93c4658b3d9e959123aa88d0a7ae1593/tumblr_nqskueE2cZ1ty4k89o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774906 << publish it sometime ; and also since on this trinque i'd like to use whatever wot.deedbot uses to spit the round svg graph to make a "trilema article links" thing. can i get it somewhere ? ☝︎☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:36 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774783 << "org mode", i haven't found else with which to htmlize coad
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774912 << this is so fucking sad... ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:47 lobbes: Never once did I encounter "interested in something? Here's how you could keep following that interest"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774915 << guess how many girls never masturbate to orgasm and in what environments. lack of personal drive ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:52 phf: i can see the education angle, and how it fails these people, but what i'm surprised about is the lack of personal drive? it's some kind of learned helplessness
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774916 << he has it exactly ; for all the "intrinsic humanity" blah blah, humans are contextual automatons. "it would have never occured me to x" is the most common comment in all natural languages, unvoiced because so fucking trite. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 19:54 lobbes: It appears such to someone with actual skills such as phf. But for one for whom it is a "well, what else is there?", it seems like the rational move
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774921 << amusingly i read it as a "well, gotta put best foot forward and don best suit", kinda unconvinced of why or what the fuck subjhectively, "but what can you do". which is why i just ignored it, triggered none of my tripwires. while apparently hitting TWO DIFFERENT!!! immune system protein pathways in two different people. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 20:03 trinque: kid was virtue signaling hard, "am strapping lad, going places!"
mircea_popescu: life's hard, but dangerous.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774923 << arguably maybe not yet, but in another decade or so it prolly will be. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 20:04 ben_vulpes: ours mostly
asciilifeform: i found it interesting to consider, why winblowz '0days' exciting to 19yo n00b, but e.g. ffa -- not
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no actual math priors.
asciilifeform: not in ffa either, lol
mircea_popescu: oohohohohoh
mircea_popescu: you have no fucking idea!
asciilifeform: it uses... what, 3rd grade maffs
phf: which 3rd grade is that?
asciilifeform: american, even
asciilifeform: ( they dun teach longdiv till 3rd here )
mircea_popescu: you understand, in frege's day "inquiries into the nature of numbers" were VERY uninteresting to kids in teh gymnasium
mircea_popescu: this is not because the notion of number "is light on math -- 3rd grade". but specifically because it is not. nothing odf the fucking sort.
asciilifeform: i'd expect , they were mostly interested in dueling and cards
mircea_popescu: the notion of gravity is not elementary. the notion of magnetism is so fucking elementary it was observed 1k years before electricity and it still lacks a proper model.
asciilifeform: in that sense yea. ffa however is not frege, it is moar al-kwarizmus
mircea_popescu: the notion of number requires a phd. and ffs is more fundamental math than things such as infinitesimal calculus.
mircea_popescu: in fact, it's right in there with n-space extensions.
mircea_popescu: no, it is very much frege.
mircea_popescu: the big question is ~WHAT TO TAKE OUT~.
mircea_popescu: that is always frege. or w/e, spinoza if you prefer, or so on. a whiole school of lens polishers.
mircea_popescu: you are a terrible classifier, you know that ? seriously, ffa, 3rd grade ? what next, telekinesis, preschool ?
asciilifeform: it's arithmetic, lel, not inquiry-into-nature-of-integer
mircea_popescu: it is no such thing.
asciilifeform: at least for civilian
mircea_popescu: it is inquiry into fundamental meaning of algorithmic computation.
asciilifeform: but i can see where mircea_popescu is coming from.
asciilifeform: ftr i do hope it can be made to work on folx who never read frege.
mircea_popescu: what clouds your eyes is the notion that "civillian dun need to understand why, it will work for him". yes, but he has to understand why ~TO USE IT~. see ?
mircea_popescu: otherwise it's just another contortion.
asciilifeform: ( ffa , yes, is made to work ~ on people ~ primarily )
phf: ascii still labours under soviet system: "hygiene is useful, you will also get shot for not doing it" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lol. he does, at that.
mircea_popescu: and ffs is more fundamental math than << ffa, obviously.
mircea_popescu: (obviously ?)
asciilifeform: !#s phenolphthalein
a111: 0 results for "phenolphthalein", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=phenolphthalein
asciilifeform: grr
asciilifeform: there was an old story...
mircea_popescu: yet another word i knew!
mircea_popescu: !#s fenoftaleina
a111: 0 results for "fenoftaleina", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=fenoftaleina
mircea_popescu: hm.
asciilifeform: the story where 3yo asciilifeform ate a litmus strip
asciilifeform: from his brother's workbench
asciilifeform: 'forgive me, bro' 'hey, i'll forgive, but phenolphthalein won't forgive, prepare to live in the toilet'
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: they weren't THAT bad, i ate a few myself.
mircea_popescu: from own bench.
asciilifeform: yea , it... forgave, lel
asciilifeform: but principle -- remains
mircea_popescu: !#s "the stain"
a111: 12 results for "\"the stain\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22the%20stain%22
asciilifeform: or hanbot's vignette with the ducks
asciilifeform bbl,meat
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774922 << truthfulyl, it's the fault of the complete disappearance of any kind of approachable useful activity. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 20:04 trinque: which, it's sorta appropriate for the age. it's frankly someone else's fault the strapping lads aren't being forced into productive activity.
mircea_popescu: ideal humanity would have constructed ladder of pseudouseful ("hey, make your own V!") to support the kids until they grow the fucking graybeard spontaneously on 3xth birthday so they don't go off the deep end as antsy 16yos/26yos with no release
mircea_popescu: but real humanity is approximately speaking antiideal.
mircea_popescu: THIRTEEN was the age of majority for french kinds. by then "they had seen a few wars, fucked a few horses, rode a few women, ready to rule"
mircea_popescu: kings* not kinds.
mircea_popescu: in other news, apparently yahoo owns tumblr ? i had no idea.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774947 << this is not clearly so. teacher with ruler function was to teach them bravery (more properly, unteach them the innate cowardice of human race). this is subtly different ; there's also a subtle difference between empathy as "capacity to model" and the bare capacity to model as such -- yes the similarity between mouse that loves a mouse and spider that eats a mouse is that they both ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 20:22 phf: trinque: the function used to be performed by a teacher with a ruler
mircea_popescu: can model the behaviour of same mouse.
mircea_popescu: and in other blind trusts, http://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgbmggCror1qaj9a3o1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: woah actually lookable gurl
asciilifeform: neato.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1774957 << aren't these the shitheads that tried to cozy up in like 2014ish, then obviously swiched ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 01:33 ben_vulpes: > Despite this, we remain very optimistic about cryptocurrencies overall
mircea_popescu: or was that square or circle or whatever random word the pantsuit is trying to steal today.
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder the sad strip of land on either side of ocean doesn't consist of idiots running in and out of doors with barrels, trying to steal the sunlight in them.
mod6: asciilifeform: you didn't like this one? http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1773738 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 02:03 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in thje park, http://78.media.tumblr.com/0088fa380b23340775125404c1ae5a2b/tumblr_oe3yz2YBze1trzasto1_1280.png
asciilifeform: mod6: liked, and almost sure it was in bucharest
mircea_popescu: why, there's many towns all through asia built on tigdic principles. ☟︎
mod6: asciilifeform: ah.
asciilifeform gearing up for ro expedition, salivates like a terminal rotaku
mircea_popescu: are you gonna fuck one this time ?
asciilifeform: dunno, anyffingspossible
asciilifeform pulsates on merelt thinkin 'bout going there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/O5SxV/?raw=true
asciilifeform: *merelt
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'll make this go when i wake up
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775148 , http://78.media.tumblr.com/569f1816bc58143af87d45fa94123524/tumblr_nqttorpij61rbrhnko1_500.gif ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 03:52 phf: ascii still labours under soviet system: "hygiene is useful, you will also get shot for not doing it"
mircea_popescu: aite.
asciilifeform: lemme know meanwhile if params change. i'ma bbl: delirium, bed, etc.
mircea_popescu: nn.
mircea_popescu: in other shit you never heard before, new slut claims to have read the previous month's worth of logs ~last night~. i think i'm moving the bar to "a minimum of 65 years' worth of log reading" on the basis of this one datapoint. ☟︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/and-that-in-the-distance-is-the-ocean/ << Trilema - And that, in the distance, is the ocean...
mircea_popescu: aaaand in other girls in tech, http://78.media.tumblr.com/6b909ee223960e6f7ca211a0ca338f85/tumblr_n91xsvlf151sgft1ao1_500.gif
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1774969 <-- nah, finished just this december and enrolled into ffa class just after. :D thus my earlier http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736817 derping ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 02:15 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774802 << nah, he got his phd years ago iirc.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 23:00 spyked: hi! sorry for the radio silence. I've been working myself out of various irl swamps lately (still in progress). following in read-only mode though.
mircea_popescu: ah
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775009 <-- hah, if this is the reason for the whole "users" thing, then it also explains "ubuntu: linux fo' dat ass"! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 02:35 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774869 << no, it's because the boys wanted to grab ass so they introduced the punched card to have a reason to hire a buncha secretaries.
mircea_popescu: word.
spyked: (ftr, /me got his first ubuntu cd "for free" at a "computer conference" mid-2000s; fortunately, his first linux install was a red hat at a now defunct internet cafe in bucharest; to this day I have no idea why they wanted me to install that, 90% of the people went there for "counter strike", the other 10% for diablo 2)
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775028 <-- oops, apologies. e-2nd-l thing. making a mental note. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 02:59 mircea_popescu: also fyi, "faculty" is how you say the body of teachers, maybe. it dun has the ro meaning at all whatsoever. university would work, campus, whatever.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/QvYdA/?raw=true
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in other news, apparently yahoo owns tumblr ? i had no idea. << Happened a while back during the "Yahoo as conduit for funneling money into brands" era
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 11263.32, vol: 14111.24022126 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 11260.0, vol: 55991.9773463 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 11284.5, vol: 5284.52937027 | Volume-weighted last average: 11262.3388454
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775015 << Though I will warn readers: I am slow.. (but steady). Though the general strategy of "keep snr > 0 and try and learn from my betters" appears to be working ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 02:36 mod6: i like it. pay attention readers.
lobbes: Phunphakt: USGoogle, on a search for "betters" returns the definition along with the classification "dated; humurous" so as to implicitly reinforce "all things equal" mantra
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775207 << impressive. Makes me think about the self-referential nature of logs. As time moves forward, being able to say "I read x unit-of-time worth of logs" will require more and more reading to comprehend same unit-of-time due to growing "webs of threads" ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 05:42 mircea_popescu: in other shit you never heard before, new slut claims to have read the previous month's worth of logs ~last night~. i think i'm moving the bar to "a minimum of 65 years' worth of log reading" on the basis of this one datapoint.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in campus culture, https://78.media.tumblr.com/eef4ff547fd91b0a05560f02a40ed997/tumblr_nbqin6qpq61sucnx7o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: "here i am with mom and my younger sister -- who will be doing this next year!"
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774416 << email came back, claiming to be from RagnarDanneskjol but "away from my key" so how'm i to know... ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 20:26 asciilifeform: http://armoredco.in links also to various mircea_popescu items, e.g. the airgap article
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ~somebody~ ( him, or whoever pretending to be ) is the lowest possible cheap spammer, attempting cynical grift chiseling off tmsr, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774586 , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774590 ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 01:41 asciilifeform: studentloanhelp.me also him ?
a111: Logged on 2018-01-23 01:42 asciilifeform: and, motherfucker, biffsbets.com .
ben_vulpes: !!up RagnarDanneskjol i don't need anything, wrapping up a tiny mystery
deedbot: RagnarDanneskjol voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: !#s deedbot.com
a111: 12 results for "deedbot.com", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=deedbot.com
BingoBoingo: Well, alf did you see the quality of his Chinese gurl interviews
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-05#965855 << lol, confession ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-01-05 10:23 RagnarDanneskjol: i was keeping it at deedbot.com but now thats outdated too
asciilifeform: or was he behind one of the failed attempts at actual deedbot ?
ben_vulpes: i have a vague memory of his pushing some kid to do it?
ben_vulpes: RagnarDanneskjol: ?
BingoBoingo: He may have lined punkman up for it or something
RagnarDanneskjol: Yes, I tried to get a few people to help with deedbot, at pools, etc in the past
asciilifeform: RagnarDanneskjol: 'biffsbets.com', you or not you ? ☟︎
RagnarDanneskjol: *ATC pool
asciilifeform: RagnarDanneskjol: studentloanhelp.me etc crapola, also you ?
RagnarDanneskjol: I have registered a ton of domains for friends who don't like using Banks over the years. ☟︎
RagnarDanneskjol: Way to go Inspector Gadget
asciilifeform: faststudentdebtrelief.com ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: and 'armoredcoin', RagnarDanneskjol , also you ?
RagnarDanneskjol: Yes
asciilifeform: and, srsly, thelogdailyreport.com ?
asciilifeform: #tlogs-themed linkfarm, srsly ?
asciilifeform: soo RagnarDanneskjol , how come you did not come and offer any of us to buy your Team Armoredcoin is proud to release the brave, new AC1 Control Kit 'Woodchipper' - the first auditable production Bitcoin control system available to the public' item ?
asciilifeform: despite the fact that, e.g., 'Armoredcoin is a set of instructions based on the airgap gold standard described by the man himself. Mr. Popescu further delineates boundries separating actual security from security theater'
asciilifeform: and even 'Armoredcoin abides by the 'Seven Laws of Sane Personal Computing''
asciilifeform: ?
asciilifeform: why is THIS -- http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-22#1774415 << the first mention of 'armoredcoin' in the logs ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-22 20:24 asciilifeform: in other oddities from asciilifeform's wwwtron referlog : http://armoredcoin.org << anybody here wants to confess to authorship of this ? it claims interop with trb , compliance with asciilifeform's '7laws' , etc
RagnarDanneskjol: Because it was just an idea I started sketching out one night and it wasn't for anyone's consumption or consideration other than myself at this point
asciilifeform: http://armoredco.in/store.html suggests that the product is there, to be ordered
asciilifeform: what would happen if somebody were to order ?
asciilifeform: you will sit down and make it, that evening , RagnarDanneskjol ?
RagnarDanneskjol: Yep that's just a dummy placeholder idea
asciilifeform: what am i missing
asciilifeform: 'Available Fall 2017' sounds pretty concrete
asciilifeform: i am disappoint(tm)
RagnarDanneskjol: It's just a model of how I do my own air gap wallet signing and I thought I would build it into something else. No it's not concrete or whatever I'll go ahead and delete all of it right now so you don't have to worry about it. I guess the date was a time frame I wanted to put on myself for some reason. I don't even remember
RagnarDanneskjol: If you'd like to test one of the kits out for yourself I'm happy to send it to you for free
asciilifeform: oh i dun give a rat's arse whether RagnarDanneskjol deletes or not
trinque: and the logs link farm?
trinque: imagine with all the faffing about you did here, you could've done something worthwhile
asciilifeform: trinque: the man has some cheek , neh
RagnarDanneskjol: That was a page where I used to keep all sorts of fabulous links from Qntra, the whet, trilema, etc
RagnarDanneskjol: And then they went away so I stopped
asciilifeform: really, they went away ?
trinque: well, qntra did
RagnarDanneskjol: Again it was only for my own personal reference And archiving purposes. I never shared it with anybody as far as I know
asciilifeform: it's a public www, lol
asciilifeform: and offers paid ad space, last i saw
asciilifeform: nobody took ? pity
RagnarDanneskjol: Yes I keep things on public www so it forces me to maintain and update my content. I think the adspace is just leftover from the template I borrowed from drudgereport
asciilifeform: here's what i dungetatall, RagnarDanneskjol : why you never showed up here with the sane-wallets thing ? there are folx who are interested , could have worked with you
asciilifeform: you could have had an actual product, instead of the empty rubbish www
RagnarDanneskjol: I am just busywith work, often reading the logs in several weeks behind and doing extensive requisite study to actually keep up with you boys. I'm happy to commit some time when it avails.... I've even gone and upset the boss now because I didn't have enough time to train ornamental candidates on VPN/irc stuff
ben_vulpes: i don't see this actually forcing you to maintain and update the content either
asciilifeform: this would appear to be the problem, RagnarDanneskjol , you are apparently unable to distinguish 'ornament' from function
asciilifeform: and this is the charitable interpretation.
RagnarDanneskjol: Oh lord
asciilifeform: Ваше слово, товарищ маузер
asciilifeform: !!rate RagnarDanneskjol -1 Cynical grift disguised as childlike naivete -- or perhaps vice-versa. Admitted to shill work for fraudsters. See also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775249 or inquire within. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 17:47 asciilifeform: RagnarDanneskjol: 'biffsbets.com', you or not you ?
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asciilifeform: !!v 6C76D3FE7303C32279A3A2B3C4B73E0917942BD733704B98D70C2E1B22D88168
deedbot: asciilifeform rated RagnarDanneskjol -1 << Cynical grift disguised as childlike naivete -- or perhaps vice-versa. Admitted to shill work for fraudsters. See also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775249 or inquire within.
RagnarDanneskjol: Fraudsters? Please clarify ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775252 , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775254 , is what exactly. ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 17:47 RagnarDanneskjol: I have registered a ton of domains for friends who don't like using Banks over the years.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 17:48 asciilifeform: faststudentdebtrelief.com ?
asciilifeform: goodbyte, RagnarDanneskjol . consider doing something constructive with your life.
asciilifeform: *goodbye lel
BingoBoingo: I preferred goodbyte
asciilifeform: badbyte.
shinohai: I guarantee even my financially handicapped self can register a domain right now, no bank needed.
asciilifeform: i dun think i've ever used a bank to pay for a domain reg
mircea_popescu: !#s namesilo
a111: 4 results for "namesilo", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=namesilo
mircea_popescu: ^ recommended.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you're still missing an address for the dc ; and is that number their actual acct # with their bank or is it some sort of corp registrstration number or what.
mircea_popescu: i never saw bank accts this short.
mircea_popescu: don't they have a fucking iban like sane people in uruguay ?
BingoBoingo: The number following S.A. on the Beneficiario Final is their account number
mircea_popescu: aite, now get an address. like you know, street address.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775228 << oh, i don't expect she actually understood anything. but hey, youth is the label we put on "i am watching the things go by and i have no idea what;s going on". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 17:07 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775207 << impressive. Makes me think about the self-referential nature of logs. As time moves forward, being able to say "I read x unit-of-time worth of logs" will require more and more reading to comprehend same unit-of-time due to growing "webs of threads"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: the street address http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/w4U2U/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: wouldja mind putting it all together into an item plox\
BingoBoingo: Sure
BingoBoingo: compiling
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "ho-tel, or the cycle of womanhood", http://78.media.tumblr.com/b206f9dd669f1e2c90d80a11adab2d4c/tumblr_mi8atzWTzj1qg3iveo1_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/TLMf6/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: ^ wire details and street address
BingoBoingo: And I forgot the amounts in that one
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/9rvkv/?raw=true hanbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/if8Zh/?raw=true BingoBoingo http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/UVfWU/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo myeah. no matter.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: got it !
BingoBoingo: gracias
TomServo: https://archive.is/t0xSC << somewhat interesting tale here, featuring 'dark web' drug purchases and murder-for-hire in lieu of a divorce. Also possible parallel construction.
mircea_popescu: http://www.eightcitiesmap.com/transcript_bc.htm << archiving this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/O2D7z/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/gBVf9/?raw=true asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/vTM1b/?raw=true
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/hqdXh/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: you know... one of these days, in your good time, you might switch to the new p.bvlupes format...
asciilifeform: lolyea
hanbot: ben vlupes lol
ben_vulpes: it's always lupus
shinohai: Maybe he's a Final Fantasy player
asciilifeform: holyfuq, additiontable
asciilifeform: i should've thought of that!111forffa
mircea_popescu: lol.
mircea_popescu: sorry ben_v, i cauhgt dylsexia from the young sluts.
mircea_popescu: apparently it's transmissible.
ben_vulpes: dylsexia, lol
mircea_popescu: !!rated jcpham
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated jcpham 1 at 2012/09/28 05:08:54 << He was going to get less than a house but more than a car from pirate. Except then he didn't.
mircea_popescu: !!rate jcpham -1 fucktard that showed up early and proved to be useless ; got butthurt over his attempt at paintsuit injection being rebuffed back when i was trying to ROTA, has been hoovering ever since trying to affect the specific sort of libertard aloofness that makes it all okay in their religion.
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asciilifeform: zombies rising from graves errywhere today, or wut.
mircea_popescu: eh, the minor disadvantage of lordship, gotta keep public records more or less in shape.
mircea_popescu: !!rated copumpkin
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated copumpkin 1 at 2012/04/01 22:17:41 << Old hand. Long time, no see.
shinohai: NSA Deletes “Honesty” and “Openness” From Core Values <<< kek
asciilifeform: lolwaat
asciilifeform: shinohai: sores?
mircea_popescu: !!rate copumpkin -1 utter pantsuit shithead, willing to cut his own head if that helps pretend everyone's equal.
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deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/pardon-us/ << Trilema - Pardon Us
shinohai: asciilifeform: http://archive.is/bSa5Y
mircea_popescu: !!ratings mircea_popescu
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/HogXn/?raw=true
asciilifeform: shinohai: if gestapo had a www...
mircea_popescu: !!rate covertress -1 mendacious lulzcow, entertained with idle posturing (of the "businesswoman" flavour) sometime in prehistory.
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mircea_popescu: !!unrate RodrigoBTCF
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shinohai: lol I think covertress wound up getting lost at sea, after the switch from ETH to Proof-of-Stake failed spectacularly.
mircea_popescu: heh. do you recall that earlier exact copy, transvestite idiot with "a business" ?
ben_vulpes: shinohai: switch from eth to proof of stake? that's...not parsing over here
mircea_popescu: also launched a coin, was "gonna be ready by xmas"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "women in tech".
ben_vulpes: i am clearly witless
shinohai: ben_vulpes: She had a clone coin that incorporated "smart contracts" like ETH, it got pwnd twice. So then they totally switched it to a blackcoin clone. Also failed.
ben_vulpes: this is giving me a headache
shinohai: She had a way of instilling those, despite my best efforts at trying to show her the light.
mircea_popescu: jesus fuck i have nigh on 400 ratings, this is unseemly.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: is teh supernoad
mircea_popescu will be stuck spending a whole fucking day managing this mess into a shape
mircea_popescu: very much apologies for the noise ; wut can i do.
mircea_popescu: !!unrate sturles
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mircea_popescu: !!rated kreal
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated kreal 2 at 2011/07/26 00:08:44 << bought 60btc via pp, smooth.
mircea_popescu: can you believe this shit ?
mircea_popescu: !!unrate kreal
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mircea_popescu: "i sold 60 btc back in 2011 ; nothing came of me." pshaw.
mircea_popescu: !!rate nanotube -1 took the blue pill at some point prior to the republic, chasing the tenure dream somewhere lost in the imperial wastes. ☟︎
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mircea_popescu plays https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIbyWIKbyGo ; "tu stai pe-a ta, eu stau pe-a mea. ramine-asa." tanana.
mircea_popescu: !!unrate sgornick
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mircea_popescu: !!rate onefixt -1 bought pirate "debt" against protorepublican consensus at the time, went bankrupt for it. there's a lesson in there.
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mircea_popescu: !!unrate arij
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mircea_popescu: !#s from:Cory
a111: 2 results for "from:Cory", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3ACory
mircea_popescu: !!rate cory -1 hovering about since forever, came to nothing to date, and that's all the time he had.
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mircea_popescu: !!unrate pizzaman1337
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mircea_popescu: !!rate midnightmagic -1 hovering about since forever, came to nothing to date, and that's all the time he had.
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mircea_popescu: !!rate thickasthieves -1 rando with no useful skills and various emotional issues of the cuck variety bonus on the side.
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mircea_popescu: what the fuck am i gonna do about mike_c.
mircea_popescu: yo mike! are you staying or going, wtf is going on, eh.
mircea_popescu: !!unrate saltyspitoon
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mircea_popescu: !!unrate lampelina
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mircea_popescu: !!rate cazalla 1 ex qntra, meanwhile lost in reproductive ruralia.
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mircea_popescu: !#s from:tomservo
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mircea_popescu: !#s from:TomServo
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mircea_popescu: !!rated TomServo
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated TomServo 1 at 2014/04/15 21:39:46 << New blood.
mircea_popescu: TomServo coming or going ? 2014 new blood rating ain't gonna stand as such.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: Been here since 2012 I think, prolly got some more years left.
mircea_popescu: what is your idea of "been here" ?\
mircea_popescu: !#s from:artifexd
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TomServo: Reading logs daily, got my node running. More in time.
mircea_popescu: !!unrate dignork
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shinohai: The blood .... it runs deep today.
mircea_popescu: TomServo i guess.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: Next is likely getting a copy of mp-wp up and running, posting some fg test results.
mircea_popescu: what do you do for a living, anyway ?
TomServo: Network "Engineer"
mircea_popescu: so what's with the glacial pace, i dun get it.
mircea_popescu: !!rate fluffypony -1 pleasant enough grifter.
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TomServo: Glacial as far as? Having kids certainly didn't help my pace.
mircea_popescu: " Been here since 2012 I think" <<->> "Next is likely getting a copy of mp-wp up and running, posting some fg test results."
mircea_popescu: what's your definition of glacial ?
ben_vulpes: "faster than geological"
mircea_popescu: !!unrate pierre_rochard -1 promising youth that came to nothing.
TomServo: heh, just recently acquired the fg. Didn't want to start a blog just to emit noise.
mircea_popescu: !!rate pierre_rochard -1 promising youth that came to nothing. ☟︎
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mircea_popescu: TomServo how is this related to what we're discussing ?
mircea_popescu: coming or going, dood, it's a thing. there's no sitting in the doorway.
mircea_popescu: !!unrate enky
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TomServo: I'ma comin'.
mircea_popescu: aite.
mircea_popescu: !!unrate unbalanced
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mircea_popescu: heh, remember the manul gurl ?
ben_vulpes: aha!
mircea_popescu: !!unrate napedia
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mircea_popescu: !!rated rdymac
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated rdymac 1 at 2014/12/07 07:20:01 << electrum web guy.
mircea_popescu: ^ imagine that lulz.
mircea_popescu: !!unrate rdymac
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mircea_popescu: !#s from:williamdunne
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mircea_popescu: !!unrate williamdunne
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mircea_popescu: holy shit halfway omfg send halp.
mircea_popescu: !!unrate teward
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mircea_popescu: !!rate funkenstein_ -1 i can't even recall what exactly he got butthurt over, but has been hoovering ever since trying to affect the specific sort of libertard aloofness that makes it all okay in their religion.
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mircea_popescu: !!rate Chillum -1 could have had, did not, there's no way out of it now.
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mircea_popescu: !!unrate whaack
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mircea_popescu waves at mats.
mircea_popescu: !!unrate scoopbot_revived
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mircea_popescu: !!rated joecool
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated joecool 1 at 2015/05/07 16:00:17 << Approximately new blood :p
mircea_popescu: yo. coming ? going ?
mircea_popescu: !!unrate SamouraiWallet
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ben_vulpes: o.O
ben_vulpes: oh, the other nick
mircea_popescu: ya, ancient arcana.
mircea_popescu: !!unrate Landgull
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trinque: that was before I snagged it from ... RagnarDanneskjol
trinque: iirc
shinohai: lol
trinque: squattin all the names!
mircea_popescu: !!unrate indiancandy1
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asciilifeform: pretty decent pile o'skulls eh
asciilifeform: can't resist adding to it
shinohai: And it's not even March 15th
mircea_popescu: !!unrate Drhelmut
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asciilifeform: !!rate apocalyptic -1 went off to heathendom; apparently it's all the same to him
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mircea_popescu: !!rated gernika
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated gernika 1 at 2015/07/04 18:39:41 << Managed to press 99996
mircea_popescu: imagine.
mircea_popescu: !!unrate gernika
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asciilifeform: !!v A41F575D00583C8C4D6AB249A78FC6B21DF0E6EC5DB09ADB4DFC6E398404A3AB
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of apocalyptic from 2 to -1 << went off to heathendom; apparently it's all the same to him
mircea_popescu: !!unrate hdbuck
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asciilifeform: !!unrate assbot
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mircea_popescu: !!unrate solrodar
asciilifeform: !!v 6E539B79FAD1C20AFDBC288D3CC2E6E9D2023545C05D438EB9BF6338B81C5E78
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deedbot: asciilifeform unrated assbot.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform shit, give it a minute till i finish, it doesn't do the name per line thing and we'll end up confused.
asciilifeform: actually i think i'm done, mine's smaller by far
mircea_popescu: !!unrate wyrdmantis
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mircea_popescu: !!rate psztorc -1 the significant cost of the freedom of choice delusion.
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mircea_popescu: !!rated crescendo
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated crescendo -1 at 2015/09/24 21:29:35 << Aka Eric Martindale. Nice job trying to sell me/MPEx bitpay shares a week before information was to come out that'd render them worthless. Say hello to Daphna for me.
mircea_popescu: anyone recall that ? "o hey, it got gigavps kicked out of bitcoin, but i don't know any history so why the hell not!"
mircea_popescu: !!unrate AgentScully
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asciilifeform: wasn't gigavps, on top of this, a tentacle of mtgox ? ( or was that another pseudo-isp derp )
lobbes: Phew. товарищ маузер has been busy today
asciilifeform: verily
mircea_popescu: lol tov mauser
mircea_popescu: !!unrate gabrielradio
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mircea_popescu: !#s thenewdeal
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mircea_popescu: yo. coming ? going ? call it.
mircea_popescu: !!unrate linton_s_dawson
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mircea_popescu: !#s from:irdial
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mircea_popescu: listen, twitter makes you dumb.
mircea_popescu: !!rated polarbeard
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated polarbeard 1 at 2016/01/22 17:39:19 << Managed a V press.
mircea_popescu: two years huh.
mircea_popescu: !!unrate topynate
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mircea_popescu: !!rate DicePower -1 tried teh anal child behaviour, didn't do anything for him. by all means, "he just didn't try it the right way", i'm sure.
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mircea_popescu: !!unrate PaulCapestany
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mircea_popescu: dooglus yo, i like you, but at some point you'll have to choose between sticking with the stockholm syndrome and moving on with your life. i'd like to hear it explicitly ; and for that matter so would you.
mircea_popescu: ^ dude got raped by the canadian government, who the fuck heard of this nonsense, "you are a respected businessman with a functioning business, here's the petrol"
mircea_popescu: !!unrate mrottenkolber
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: proper-rape or 'shown the instruments' ?
mircea_popescu: the latter, at least afail.
asciilifeform: and how did he respond ?
mircea_popescu: he's older and has a lot of that protestant "thou shalt not make a scandal" cockroaches in his head.
asciilifeform: aa hm.
mircea_popescu: orderly wound down. which in itself is a feat in this space.
asciilifeform: possibly protestant-cockroaches, or even possible that it did not pay enough to power his escape
asciilifeform: but i have exactly 0 idea.
mircea_popescu: !!unrate veen
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asciilifeform: hey ben_vulpes , wasn't veen one of yer patients ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so ? a principle is not "this thing i believe while it pays me to do so"
mircea_popescu: !!unrate Omraphantom
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mircea_popescu: !!unrate skydragon
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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly d00d did not trust himself to not even further betray principles when he's in the nato prison and hanging upside down
asciilifeform: but this is speculation.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: patient?
mircea_popescu: i have no beef. it's what it is.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have nfi re the relation, but iirc you introduced veen as a meatspace l1
mircea_popescu: !!unrate BenBE
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ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: that is correct
ben_vulpes: he is also in my koch-rsa l1, what of it?
mircea_popescu: !!unrate gizmolearner
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asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: nuffin, just walking logs as mircea_popescu feeds his blade
mircea_popescu: !!unrate fbar
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mircea_popescu: !!rated herbijudlestoids
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated herbijudlestoids 1 at 2017/06/03 04:25:59 << missed on all the things.
mircea_popescu: yo! MISSING OUT ON ALL THE THINGS!
mircea_popescu: !#s from:erlehmann
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mircea_popescu: !!unrate juantelez
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mircea_popescu: !#s from:sina
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mircea_popescu: !!unrate andreicon
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mircea_popescu: !!rated pa1atine
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated pa1atine 1 at 2017/08/01 22:53:29 << Italian lawyer guy, apparently.
mircea_popescu: !!rated edivad
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated edivad 1 at 2017/08/09 07:21:16 << painter/student
mircea_popescu: !!rated ccmtacks
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated ccmtacks 1 at 2017/10/11 17:10:45 << Internet Marketing kid.
mircea_popescu: aite well, that should be enough for now then!
mircea_popescu: !!ratings mircea_popescu
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/FEtzy/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: 179, more human.
mircea_popescu: and in other "storage ideas to make the most of your new york apartment", http://78.media.tumblr.com/ff28f8f3c38b47d61f479bac676d0bf0/tumblr_mp7js6U0yU1sxvn8oo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://wot.deedbot.org/ << archiving pre-updatew
shinohai: Hey the smiley face turned into cyclops!
mircea_popescu: incidentally, deedbot behaving quite well ounder heavy loads...
shinohai: !!up Tiraspol
deedbot: Tiraspol voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: !!rate BingoBoingo 4 long history of consistently doing The Right Thing; bisp expeditionary force; inquire within.
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asciilifeform: !!v 559849308838E56C163417CB70FCE4AB5C2FC81BB1B012FBE4B945E1DF339EA2
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of BingoBoingo from 3 to 4 << long history of consistently doing The Right Thing; bisp expeditionary force; inquire within.
lobbes: http://wot.deedbot.org/6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452.html << for archiving mp's pre-update wot (bot only snarfs specific pages atm, not whole sites)
asciilifeform: !!rate mike_c 1 fg user; tmsr lord in abeyance
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asciilifeform: !!v E69088BB6E2E35D5EE3A34B7B00D43762AD0FDDE335BA3248ED15229DB8857E1
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of mike_c from 4 to 1 << fg user; tmsr lord in abeyance
asciilifeform: !!rate phf 4 ru lisper, bolixologist, philosopher ; http://btcbase.org/patches ; http://btcbase.org/log ; long history of consistently doing The Right Thing, inquire within
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asciilifeform: !!v 75974D304DD9BD27DE8D3CBD596496EF4722FA7A232A90C0A0871A5D67AE5BC8
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of phf from 3 to 4 << ru lisper, bolixologist, philosopher ; http://btcbase.org/patches ; http://btcbase.org/log ; long history of consistently doing The Right Thing, inquire within
asciilifeform: !!rate trinque 4 texas lisper; author and operator of deedbot ; experimental vtronics work
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asciilifeform: !!v 7D4B4AC99ABF66456E4F5A1A159693FA9931247D9BB4140E495AD910444A41B0
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of trinque from 2 to 4 << texas lisper; author and operator of deedbot ; experimental vtronics work
asciilifeform: !!rate apeloyee 3 A - N*floor(A*R/4^K) < 2*N and much more, inquire within
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asciilifeform: !!v 4CD0857CF68ED24A865FBF08E43B47D1101D64C665F726E957BB11C9B3E7AA66
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of apeloyee from 2 to 3 << A - N*floor(A*R/4^K) < 2*N and much more, inquire within
asciilifeform: hey trinque -- when's the last time wot.deedbot.org db was regenned ? for instance it still dun show asciilifeform's rating for diana_coman
trinque: runs at UTC midnight, and I may have broken it when I added mircea_popescu's requested vdiff of each svg
trinque: we'll find out in about an hour
asciilifeform: aite
asciilifeform: !!rate danielpbarron 3 operates heathenbux-denominated FUCKGOATS dealership; trb experimenter; history of doing The Right Thing
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asciilifeform: !!v 8C0DDDF5FEF3AC9571146246DFF532AA0A256EFE6566B52B10C938A2E0D64767
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of danielpbarron from 2 to 3 << operates heathenbux-denominated FUCKGOATS dealership; trb experimenter; history of doing The Right Thing
asciilifeform: !!rated shinohai
deedbot: asciilifeform rated shinohai 1 at 2015/08/01 16:39:32 << therealbitcoin testing
asciilifeform: !!rate shinohai 3 heathendom newsdesk; pogotronics, trb, FG experimenter
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asciilifeform: !!v 980705728BC0A2C34B8C85BF72370D83C87C9F829906067B0A194A5912FE6329
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of shinohai from 1 to 3 << heathendom newsdesk; pogotronics, trb, FG experimenter
asciilifeform: !!rate deedbot 10 exactly as printed on the crate.
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asciilifeform: !!v 0D8A3AE8350D32C1E08C1694FABFA660F246A0EE38043D02B7897E338EAD8A03
deedbot: asciilifeform rated deedbot 10 << exactly as printed on the crate.
mircea_popescu: in other news, diana_coman now using "faffing about" ; trinque prevails linguistically!
trinque: wahaha. it's good!
mircea_popescu: we got fna, ffa and faff!
ben_vulpes: !#s faffing about
a111: 3 results for "faffing about", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=faffing%20about
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775106 << using graphviz, looks like there's a php wrapper sitting in "pear", might be able to be turned into a mp-wp plugin ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 03:32 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774906 << publish it sometime ; and also since on this trinque i'd like to use whatever wot.deedbot uses to spit the round svg graph to make a "trilema article links" thing. can i get it somewhere ?
mircea_popescu: ah i recall you said
asciilifeform: !!rate Framedragger 1 substantial contributions to phuctor; maintainer of http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/today logotron; possibly adrift in heathendom
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Mj3Oh/?raw=true
trinque: !#s faff
a111: 5 results for "faff", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=faff
trinque: ^ earlier!!11!
asciilifeform: !!v 60C7969BD6D7B931414AF49CDAC934CEFA922F800AC614150B22BB5E6EB018E6
deedbot: asciilifeform rated Framedragger 1 << substantial contributions to phuctor; maintainer of http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/today logotron; possibly adrift in heathendom
trinque: oh wait, d'oh, ben_vulpes wins!
mircea_popescu: hm ?
trinque: faffed first
mircea_popescu: o totally, check that out.
mircea_popescu: apparently it only sticks if you tell it to a girl!
mircea_popescu: for the record, i find it impossible to discern sense and nonsense in this dijkstra article, they're so tightly coupled together.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which one ?
asciilifeform: d00d wrote a megatonne
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/wGl74
mircea_popescu: so, the differential of computing speed and movement speed are not directly comparable as he proposes.
mircea_popescu: there's no substantial difference "that has to be accounted for" between bridging the san francisco bay and bridging the mostly dry three metre wide obscure rivulet in ontario that are due to "hey, 3 degrees of magnitude distance ! 12 degrees of magnitude water debit!!" etcetera nonsense.
mircea_popescu: one's in the winter and the other's in the ocean are the important considerations there.
mircea_popescu: applying the "o noes, computer is much faster now" meme as if it meant something only drives home the nonsensical view that "computer is faster". which it fucking isn't, computer of today is well slower than computer of 1980.
asciilifeform: imho better analogy is what happened to telegraphers. recall the fate of the first transatlantic cable ?
mircea_popescu: this is not an isolated flaw : his notion that "oh, those dumb spanyards who didn't think at university" is a typically ustardian misretelling of counter-imagined history.
mircea_popescu: in point of fact, his nonsensical discussion of radical novelties has one effect and one effect only : to drive the pantsuit narrative.
asciilifeform: the cable was destroyed as a result of a very typically 'anglotard' chain of errors; entirely like the microcomp
mircea_popescu: there is ~something~ there being parasitized by all the nonsense, but it is screamingly NOT what he tries to make it be.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform go on ?
asciilifeform: cable, at astonishing expense, was laid; and soon afterwards destroyed by overvoltaging. the operators had nfi that impedance exists, 'book larnin'', and were not satisfied with ~1 baud signal rate , upped the volts...
mircea_popescu: yes but how do you conenct this ?
asciilifeform: the 'degrees of magnitude' item
mircea_popescu: ie they expected a continuous process where n osuch thing was available ?
asciilifeform: correct.
mircea_popescu: this is substantially fine ; but as presented it's a jumble of disjoints. resistance of the medium is in there, but not alone.
asciilifeform: entirely different physical effects ( and exacerbated by the pitiful insulation of the period ) over the distance involved.
mircea_popescu: (quite literal example, impedance is the EXACT name of resistance of medium to em )
asciilifeform: difference in degree becomes a difference in kind. dijkstra imho oughta have mentioned the cable, to stand up his argument
asciilifeform: as it is, there is very little for it in his article to stand up on
mircea_popescu: instead he mentions that some guy said nobody will ever run a 5 second 100m.
mircea_popescu: which is a bizzare choice in all senses.
asciilifeform: with the degree of magnitude faster/more capacitous comp , it is ~stupidity~, in the form of complexicrud, that accumulates fatally. and , worst of all, dijkstra knew this
asciilifeform: showed every symptom of knowing
asciilifeform: but never afaik dared to state the entire case directly.
mircea_popescu: other than saying so and starting a republic.
mircea_popescu: well ?
asciilifeform: errrytime mircea_popescu says this, i find myself trying to picture a pre-bitcoin republic, and end up with mental eggog
mircea_popescu: "how to program if you cannot" is an absolutely fine soundbyte ; and correctly descriptive. but reading the stuff it is mouted in, i can't help but think maybe he meant something entirely else than what it self-evidently means.
asciilifeform: what kind of republic ought e.g. dijkstra to have declared ? a meatspace venetian one ?
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: people have bene FAFFING ABOUT with "bdsm" and "castles in europe" for FIFTY YEARS.
mircea_popescu: dont' give me the "woulda but couldn't". fucktarded bikers had their own republic.
mircea_popescu: where was dijkstra ?
lobbes: http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-01-23.log.html#t23:05:59 << oh hey. looks like diana_coman actually wins 'faff' title - jan 2016!
lobbesbot: Logged on 2016-01-23 23:05:59: <diana_coman> I suppose on really short ones there isn't enough time for all the faffing about anyway; the io thing is 100secs in my books
asciilifeform pictures dijkstra on harley 'hog', vroom
mircea_popescu: and WHY NOT ?
mircea_popescu: do you picture him better going to academia in the same continous way, and faffing about "o, radical nvoelties" ?
asciilifeform: old d00d neh
mircea_popescu: really ? where's the disconnect in this brain ?
mircea_popescu: ooooh i see, OLD is it.
mircea_popescu: well, all the things he deplores are also old.
asciilifeform: and likewise all the things he undeplored
asciilifeform: that's what being old does. errything inside is old.
mircea_popescu: here's a newsflash for you : bikers are mostly old.
mircea_popescu: there's no 19yo biker. there's mostly 50-something war veteran.
asciilifeform: the ones seen at parades -- old. but i suspect they dun much vroom, or otherwise the statistic would do its work neh
mircea_popescu: the pic linked at some point, with the two sluts being fucked on bikes in the 60s, was remarkable specifically because those two guys might've been the yhoungest bike owners in history.
asciilifeform likes to go to , watch , these parades, they are held every year not so far from where asciilifeform lives
mircea_popescu: lobbes o check that out, she had it all along!
shinohai: In heathendom news: http://archive.is/PKy78 (ty asciilifeform !)
mircea_popescu: i deplore the archeologists of the future ; for whatever they do they shall be wrong.
mircea_popescu: shinohai hey, i spent more on weapons systems than computers this year, for the first time since republic.
asciilifeform: shinohai: lulzy, but seems to be rerun ( or was there a piece recently entirely like this one, but with differently named muppet )
mircea_popescu: as the saying goes, "and next year -- we launch rockets"
mircea_popescu: either that or jerusalem. something.
shinohai: Well, republic needs missles too.
mircea_popescu: any time they're ready, bring it.
asciilifeform: i suspect that main enemy of mircea_popescu's weapons systems is tropical damp, rust. the other enemy seems to prefer 'soft' liquishit to actual action, for whatever reason.