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mp_en_viaje: i dunno if you've noticed, but irrespective : at some point while i was travelling, there were half-hour-ish delays introduced in various processes, such as me upping myself. i even mentioned these in the logs specifically now and again.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-28#1958559 - I have no use for it either and precisely for this reason that it's enough if it's in the logs as far as I see it.
mp_en_viaje: i can't be arsed to drag out where in the log this point was made for ignoramus asciilifeform 's benefit, HEY, JUSTIFY PRICES LIKE CIVILISED PEOPLE,
mircea_popescu: oddly i can't find havng discussed that whole pile of unicode breakage in the logs -- though i'm pretty sure i said something on multiple occasions.
billymg: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-27#1957400 << i was proposing removal of unnecessary code currently existing in mp-wp, not the addition of any. you can see from my patch history and communications in the logs that the removal of all cruft in mp-wp is what i'm working towards
BingoBoingo: dorion_road: Mind however, that this is based off of what I'm reading in the logs rather than the source of the actual items.
dorion_road: I can see it, I think I read about lilo in the logs, then have stuck with since following the gentoo handbook a few years back, apart from one public toilet efi laptop where I went with grub.
mircea_popescu: honestly it doesn't seem to me the breakdown you have is unreasonable. it will take some time to write things up. this time SHOULD be taken, there's no benefit from "oh, let me mention things vaguely and anti-usefully in the log", it's worse than nothing, it's a cost upon the future.
diana_coman: the grating thing being also that the only alternative I see would be "drop it in the logs/blog" as a clue/how-to and then keep searching for it or something.
diana_coman: and apparently the bits and pieces known/sorted about this are not that easy to find or something, hmmm; esp the paths issue was discussed and sorted in the logs + documented at http://ossasepia.com/2019/07/14/a-working-cuntoo-install-on-amd-fx-8350-with-script/
ave1: I'am looking for a longer description of +ev and -ev. I remember reading about it either here in the log or on trilema, but so far no luck. I.E. it seems to be missing from the 2016 thesaurus (http://trilema.com/2016/republican-thesaurus-with-vocabulary-and-dictionary/).
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: atm I'm not sure I have many alternatives tbh; mind getting an estimate from fedex/dhl for me? I found this estimate for the US in the logs, but I doubt it will be similar for crossing the ocean.
trinque: mod6: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-31#1949000 << wallet has been up, and there are uses of it in the logs even...
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 07:54:52 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947621 <-- from my (most likely naive, since I've got 0-experience on the business side of things) the concerns seems to be rather re. your expectations of staying afloat, i.e. sales, revenue, how many clients you expect to get in what timeframe and how that'll cover your expenses. there might be some of that info in the logz, but imho this is worth includi
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 07:54:52 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947621 <-- from my (most likely naive, since I've got 0-experience on the business side of things) the concerns seems to be rather re. your expectations of staying afloat, i.e. sales, revenue, how many clients you expect to get in what timeframe and how that'll cover your expenses. there might be some of that info in the logz, but imho this is worth includi
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 07:54:52 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947621 <-- from my (most likely naive, since I've got 0-experience on the business side of things) the concerns seems to be rather re. your expectations of staying afloat, i.e. sales, revenue, how many clients you expect to get in what timeframe and how that'll cover your expenses. there might be some of that info in the logz, but imho this is worth includi
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947621 <-- from my (most likely naive, since I've got 0-experience on the business side of things) the concerns seems to be rather re. your expectations of staying afloat, i.e. sales, revenue, how many clients you expect to get in what timeframe and how that'll cover your expenses. there might be some of that info in the logz, but imho this is worth includi
diana_coman: I'll wait patiently for draft 2, there's no need for sneak previews in the logs or anything.
asciilifeform: ftr asciilifeform was not able to locate this in the logs. where did it happen ?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: let me go back through the whole log because honestly, I'm having a problem with asciilifeform's frenzy-spitting in the logs
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-10 01:46:59 lobbes: I mean to say above: do you want the links appearing in the log lines to be enclosed in <a href> tags
lobbes: I mean to say above: do you want the links appearing in the log lines to be enclosed in <a href> tags
mp_en_viaje: pretty sure i put this in the log somewhere, about how all the bums collect artefacts, even if broken, to stroke their spurious feelings of belonging
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-08 00:11:07 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, from experience, all possibly imploding salt mines are in fact imploding. Mocky_ 's experience is iirc in the logs as current-most-recent.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, from experience, all possibly imploding salt mines are in fact imploding. Mocky_ 's experience is iirc in the logs as current-most-recent.
mp_en_viaje: it's all in the logs, not going anywheres anyway
asciilifeform: loudly. erry fart is in the logs.
lobbes: in that case I will deploy detect_disconnect tonight methinks. The mp-wp bot will probably end up forking from this point in the logotron tree as well
lobbes: since my main blog is stuck in the latech mire atm, I will give my unofficial 'mp-wp-bot week 5 workplan' in the logs: I have virtually all of week 4's work complete, save for the piping in of needed values from the mp-wp-config bits, which I may be able to complete tonight.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: seems like only folx regularly throwing ips in the log, affected.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939807 << i beleive the ~self-petrification~ they invented on the basis of their understanding of saintly behaviours virtues and outcomes is discussed in the logs somewhere.
mp_en_viaje: and damn, now i can't find the joke in the log anymore ;/ "don't worry, itll fall off once it dries"
mp_en_viaje: in practical terms, that's the only available option ; real estate never drops suddenly, for deep and fundamental reasons sometimes superficiaslly touched in the logs. it's just not possible, like it's not possible to dream the unknown
mircea_popescu: i should prolly have a better link, there's somewhere in the logs where we discuss this mystery, of why and wherefore soviet thinking man simply laid over and gave up in the 80s.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, i can't conceive how the pantsuit will manage to get a candidate. for one thing, trump did in fact end the dnc, as discussed in the logs.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936449 << this makes sense. I guess was simply stating my reasonings for decision in the logs. But to your point I ought to start looking more at established and measurable facts than imagined feels
ave1: I could not find any other solution in the logs, except for removing for example configure, but that's one step too far for me for gcc.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-11#1935537 << ty kindly for the snippets. I did read that in the README, but thought that it perhaps may have been referring to the date in the -filename- since I couldn't find any knobs in my irssi that dealt with the 'header' formatting in the log itself. This saved my sanity
mircea_popescu: except with also excerpt consisting of prefix / suffix one dozen words around each search term, separated by [...] magic string) as html files (date-time-terms.html) in a special /<botname>-search directory ; and b) takes irc trackbacks, to any article from trilema mentioned in the logs,
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 06:51:30 mircea_popescu: if you never put the work in to evaluate hutch, there'd never have been any basis for [][conclusions] << my comment re "this isn't lisp" should have gone in there, but i can't fucking find it because on your blog has no recent posts nor in the logsearch because thetarp hutch return nothing becuase your blog doesn't have title-urls.
mircea_popescu: "Hunchentoot is (or was) for example used by <a href="http://quickhoney.com/">QuickHoney</a>, <a href="http://www.city-farming.de/">City Farming</a>, <a href="http://heikestephan.de/">Heike Stephan</a>." << forgot to put that lulz in the log somehow.
mircea_popescu: if you never put the work in to evaluate hutch, there'd never have been any basis for [][conclusions] << my comment re "this isn't lisp" should have gone in there, but i can't fucking find it because on your blog has no recent posts nor in the logsearch because thetarp hutch return nothing becuase your blog doesn't have title-urls.
deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of bvt from 1 to 2 << knows where things are in the logs! + useful work towards a republican kernel; writes at http://bvt-trace.net
diana_coman: it might be in the logs too.
asciilifeform also 'pre-cuntoo cuntoo', and pc ver. of same ; with the assoc. headaches elaborately described in the log.
mod6: (Mainly follows what I talked about in the logs a couple of days ago.)
diana_coman: asciilifeform: me being silly really; your dump has nsabot user, my db has ossabot so I did stupidly a blind replace, didn't think of the name in the log
asciilifeform: trinque if you encounter any grrr re rk, put in the log, i'ma answer asap.
mod6: i saw in the logs that others were standing one up - immediately thought "ok, yup do this too." but before I embark on yet another thing, need to ensure that i have proper time. but i'll add it to list for sure.
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-22#1930218 << 'tis mircea_popescu's chan, so his call. Though I imagine there is reason to keep them (e.g. maybe one day in the future someone wants to make a post re: "hey remember how IRC sucked?"). Point being: it was logged, so it is in the logs.
mp_en_viaje: incidentally, anyone happen to recall where the fuck i put in the log a line about how the problem with intelligent people is that they don't want mere solutions, but specifically solutions that rely on that intelligence.
phf: also znc is incidental, i have a trivial flask (or maybe "bottle") server that parses znc logs and gives the result out in the log-format
lobbes: asciilifeform: I mis-typed; I meant to say that *my own bot echoed* and it does not show in the log. (6 lines up from this line; from lobbesbot)
dorion: because the hash is truncated in the log, it only indicates the leading b for 588012.
asciilifeform: there was defo thread in the logs, where mp_en_viaje elaborated on subj. but for some reason cannot find in o(1)
asciilifeform: ( other half of problem is -- miners mining w/out actual working node. but this is elaborated in the logs, will not repeat )
girlattorney: because is in the log
girlattorney: already doing that in the log that i linked
phf: i thought i saw some discussion of using different key, but couldn't find it in the logs
asciilifeform: there are various known solutions to this, but none (unsurprisingly) 'official'. mp_en_viaje discussed variously in the logs, how it is done.
diana_coman: certainly; I've put it in the log more to make it clear that it's just one example, not some "has to be this way"
BingoBoingo: Having the MIPS thing in the log is good, but taking good stuff out of the log for the blog to highlight and more easily find later is a value add.
diana_coman: ave1: I remember I got something like that, should be in the logs.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919191 << yes it's rockchip and yes available, there's a brand-new and entirely vacant one, it was discussed at length in the log ! ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: this is potentially interesting ; goes to check... first matching line in the log is
amberglint: asciilifeform: I was glad to read in the logs that you found the pinout and those other docs
nicoleci: mp_en_viaje, check out what i found in the logs: http://btcbase.org/log/2013-11-13#377762 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: we could've visited the http://trilema.com/2017/friday-night-or-las-moiras-revisited/ together or some shit. i mean, i guess yes there was that one line in the log, but for reasons i now don't recall didn't make any impression at the time. nor is a single solitary throwaway line like that gonna make that much impression -- you wanna get anywhere you gotta mocky it!
whaack: as I mentioned in the logs a while back http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-07#1666967 i wound up moving to Costa Rica for quite a while with the plan to fix my ESLness and get out of the US. I was in Tamarindo for about a year and a half, and during that time I fell into the hedonistic lifestyle of a surf bum ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-01#1910378 << getting some slack in the logging process is probably quite useful at this point. ☝︎
trinque: reason is in the logs.
asciilifeform: ( so far no one else mentioned it in the log, but i have nfi whether because wasn't headache-inducing, or no one read far enuff in other than diana_coman )
asciilifeform: neato mod6 . possibly i misaddressed the q , and it was someone else who was working on this, i gotta look again in the log
asciilifeform: i reviewed several in the logs, in '14-'15
asciilifeform: OriansJ: plz know that if you're waiting for mp to wake up and repeat what he has prev. said, you will be quite disappointed. nobody repeats; and failure to address prev comments in the log, is the height of ill manners: can be forgiven a noob once or twice, but one gets with the program and starts using the log , or loses voice fast.
mp_en_viaje: in other obscura, since this apparently wasn't yet in the logs : re http://btcbase.org/log/2013-04-15#-12420 , winlink! ☝︎
asciilifeform: OriansJ: lotsa folx over the years landed in the logs, and thought 'these people sit and philosophize and what'. but plenty of examples of working mechanism , if yer interested to study. http://www.loper-os.org/?cat=49 for instance is a just-short-of-done constant-time 0-dependency cryptoarithmetizer.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-30 17:10 asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2019/antiqua-sanctorum-patrum-or-the-lordship-list-sixth-year/#comment-128755 << mega-likbez, btw, imho belongs in the log
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2019/antiqua-sanctorum-patrum-or-the-lordship-list-sixth-year/#comment-128755 << mega-likbez, btw, imho belongs in the log ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you know, old watches did need to be set every day. we even discussed this in the logs, as to the function of big ben etc.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: arnault's paper in the log from 1995 if that's the one you were looking for http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1722906 ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-25#1904673 << asciilifeform several times tried his hand at 'what if nonclassical diff', these are in the logs. but mircea_popescu barfed, and i dun even disagree, thus far nobody's thought of a moar human-readable diffism than the traditional one ☝︎
mircea_popescu: there's a somewhere in the log /me explains how this all works.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: We've flirted with that fact in the logs, and the story making the headline isn't earth shattering news, but... Gotta have something to link for that fact
asciilifeform: i dun recall whether i put this in the log, but asciilifeform found that if proggy does not use tasks, the 2 variants appear to build identical binary
asciilifeform: it's a quite serious set of open problems, many documented by asciilifeform in the log (e.g. how to drive nic?)
asciilifeform: looking in the log, iirc diana_coman had same issue, & cured
a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 23:41 asciilifeform: there's a lulzy 'pentagon standard' one, the name presently escapes me, iirc it is in the log tho
a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 23:41 asciilifeform: there's a lulzy 'pentagon standard' one, the name presently escapes me, iirc it is in the log tho
diana_coman: update re builds: it built fine with --enable-sjlj-exceptions in place, checked it in the log and yes, it's set; but the result still seems to be build ada code with zcx in fact (i.e. my test code with tasks is STILL hung waiting for them to abort) and if I specify --rts=sjlj to gprbuild it complains that there is no native compiler for ada and so can't do anything; ftr I compared the dirs of my adacore install and it has this specific dir
diana_coman: that's the switch I gave it; let me check in the log too to make sure I didn't dream I actually saw it in there (but for that matter if it didn't, it wouldn't have barfed)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo seems like the designated victims already in the logs. plox to produce payload for spamtron and post for nitpick.
asciilifeform: there's a lulzy 'pentagon standard' one, the name presently escapes me, iirc it is in the log tho ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: well, someone else gets to rage in the logs for a while.
asciilifeform: iirc this is amply documented in the logs, but will remind folx again, ~errything~ on the heathen mirrors oughta be considered in full fungal bloom, at this pt.
BingoBoingo: As mentioned in the logs SIU Philosophy department has been more than gutted by their naive standards, more cuts to come.
Mocky: BingoBoingo: ah yes, i remember reading as much in the logs
asciilifeform: ( as i understand, it could only happen if there is catastrophic error in the logic ? )
asciilifeform: hrm, dun seem to be in the log.
asciilifeform: there is plenty of other material in the log, to study from.