tmsr - Log 2019-04-22

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asciilifeform: in entirely unrelated heathen lulz : asciilifeform found an -- apparently working -- usb 'serial device' stack for ice40 . only eats 1/3 of the LUTs in the '8k', too. ☟︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-04-11 01:57 asciilifeform: mod6: if you want to talk to a ttl-usb serial dongle, you gotta match one of the classical baud rates, or you get rubbish (and not the desired rubbish, either, but patterned rubbish -- or nothing at all)

spyked: in spyked updates: feedbot-iii is scheduled to be published this week, followed by schedule for next work, followed by (by now late) pics from http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907055 ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 05:08 spyked is off into the mountains

spyked: meanwhile, asciilifeform's lappie arrived last week, I'ma encuntooate it soon. I expect it'll be a bit of a challenge to compile on 1GB of RAM: cuntoo bootstrapping sadly requires building gcc-5, which iirc asks for more than that. either way, I'ma put this on the list as the next item to document.

spyked: and in http://trilema.com/2019/the-egeszsegfejlesztesi-pont/#selection-153.0-158.0 lulz <-- /me was looking for more photos of this wonderful town, stumbled upon http://archive.is/cXfL7 ; notbad trolling

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-17#1908775 <-- I also signed pre-keccak chs 1-5 and will resign upon reread ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-04-17 16:24 asciilifeform: unrelatedly : phf , iirc you signed a coupla ch of ffa prior to the keccak regrind. didja ever sign the reground chs ?

asciilifeform sadly did not happen to have any of the requisite type, or would've put in

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-21#1909210 -> now I get it why asciilifeform doesn't play computer games anymoar - can't compete with real trash pandas! ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-04-21 23:35 asciilifeform: meanwhile nailed 1st 'trash panda' of this spring. head popped like melon, eyes ejected.

diana_coman: I had only one instance of a crow-eating-eyes-out-of-roadkill-hedgehog but I was sadly in a hurry and by the time I came back there was no trace of it left

asciilifeform: i nealy asked 'why wouldja shoot a hedgehog' but then reread lol

diana_coman: I actually like hedgehogs but if it didn't have enough brain to roam the gardens only...

asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc we had thrd re 'trash panda' ; picture aggressive 20kg rat, eats e.g. cat, tunnels through drywall, w/out breaking a sweat

asciilifeform: with opposable thumb (!) opens rubbish bins, even turns door knobs

diana_coman: ugh; I hate rats as it is, no need for bigger ones; that being said, I can already picture the euloran "stan's layr" complete with lumber-electronics a la http://ossasepia.com/2018/06/26/euloras-own-cr50/ and weird rats/trash pandas to fight for resources.

spyked: asciilifeform, unfortunately 2GB (max. supported by motherboard) might still not be enuff. ideally I would plug in ave1 gnat build and use it to build a minimal system, but will prolly have to bootstrap the whole thing on another machine. ☟︎

asciilifeform: spyked: i admit that i still dunget why it needs the gcc5 step

asciilifeform: i.e. i was able to build conventional gentoo ( per my old recipe ) w/out any such thing in the mix ☟︎

trinque: if somebody finds a way of leaping directly from gcc6 to 4, I'll applaud him, but I'm not burning any more hours of life in there ☟︎☟︎

a111: 2 results for "from:trinque gcc5", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Atrinque%20gcc5

a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 04:39 trinque: I just ran over here, build craps out of gcc-4 with "cannot create executables"

trinque: what I'd *really* like is a binary-reproducible gcc of any stripe, and to create an official image from that, have others duplicate

asciilifeform: trinque: as i understand , orig problem is that the stage3 shipped a gcc6 ?

asciilifeform: ( and that no one had baked a musl stage3 that could be worked from that had <5 ? )

asciilifeform: i was able to bake a musl 'busybox' linux for pogo in '15, but admittedly this was not a gentoo

asciilifeform really must dust off the old notes and try this with own hands; the presence of gcc5 in the build bothers asciilifeform not only from 'practical' but from thompsonistic pov

asciilifeform: trinque: speaking moar from concrete than theoretical pov -- gcc5 has documented 'optimizations' that remove bounds checks

trinque: anyhow, my project here was to take a snapshot of a working gentoo musl, i.e. a snapshot of the work of others. I intentally kept myself out of the chain of custody of all deps.

trinque: it does not mean that all must e.g. not substitute their own gcc. it just means that this ground, however undesirable, will not be lost like every other time I said "eh gonna go install another gentoo"

trinque: in fact, now that caught, repair *should* commence. gcc is the best first thing to fix. ☟︎

asciilifeform: has anyone attempted to build the whole orchestra on ave1's gcc ?

trinque: his gcc does not build upon musl, so I have not. prodded him a few times about getting his to run on a musl box. ☟︎

trinque: would be great to see ave1 take this on, and then perhaps get deterministic bins. could cut official ISOs from there ☟︎

a111: 2019-02-19 <ave1> Btw asciilifeform, I had to switch my cheap NFS account to a more expensive one as php 5.6 is no longer supported in their new setup. I expect that sometime, at the end of this year, 5.6 will also disappear from "production" sites.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ty, generally people are back to work now that "semana de tourismo" has come to an end

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: refuel scheduled, nao waiting' for the traditional telephonic tea ceremony from bank etc

asciilifeform: lol, is this the usual 'ohnoez, what if a legate from clintonistan sees a dead horse!111' ?

BingoBoingo: Las Jineteadas are like bullriding, except bulls are sacred cattle here so instead they piss off some horses and proceed from the bullriding premise

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The tards started their appeal to INAU, the agency for child and adolescent matters

PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-21#1909210 << are you shooting the raccoons with a SKS, or am I mistakenly mixing these log lines together? ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2019-04-21 23:35 asciilifeform: meanwhile nailed 1st 'trash panda' of this spring. head popped like melon, eyes ejected.

lobbesbot: PeterL: Sent 1 day, 16 hours, and 28 minutes ago: <billymg> yup, if you want the patch that fixes svg image links you can grab mp-wp_update-image-references-to-svg from here http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=mp-wp&search= - although i recommend going for the latest patch on that page

BingoBoingo: The old women are upset so they say "bad for children" just like in old country. And new mayor of Montevideo hasn't even been on the job for a whole month.

asciilifeform: PeterL: in city , can't use anyffin that can be heard even from across street

asciilifeform: PeterL: the sks comment was re mp's budapest 'changing of the guard' photo

asciilifeform: where there was a d00d in old-style austrohungarian uniform but with old sovok rifle

PeterL: I was in a gun store in 2010, they had an SKS for $120, but I didn't get it, wish I did, now they run about $450 around here ☟︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i thought this was standard, from end of ww2 to present day

asciilifeform: iirc sovok was 1st to chrome inside , they carried on using corrosive hg-based primer in shell long past when others quit

PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-18#1909077 << I always picture arrays going left-to-right or top-to-bottom, like you would see if you tell a computer "for x in my_array: print x" ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-04-18 22:15 mod6: I try to keep it in my mind that this is an ~array~ of words. And in my head, arrays grow left to right. Or bottom up.

PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902839 << Am I the only one who wears jeans here? I find them comfortable and they are sturdy, good for getting work done. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-03-15 13:12 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902694 -> I always thought jeans were cowboy stuff, not miner; and at least initially part of the "waiting for the americans" i.e. a tribute to an imagined greatness; how it morphed afterwards into an uniform I have no idea.

BingoBoingo: I don't much anymore. Towels coming out of the wash buckets dry faster than jeans.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: here's an old asciilifeform crackpottery : why exactly can't one buy clothes dryer that runs on vacuum pump, instead of heater. ☟︎

asciilifeform: easily 10x less current for same result, and no moar firehazard etc.

BingoBoingo: Same reason you can't get borosilicate in the US outside of flea markets, drugwar.

asciilifeform: but it only takes ~100w for perhaps ~hour to draw a coupla buckets' sized vacuum

asciilifeform: granted you need a reasonably thick and airtight pot for this

PeterL: I think you are underestimating the power that you would need for this

PeterL: you don't just have to get the vacuum, you also have to vaporize the water ☟︎

asciilifeform: i suppose you'd still have to supply the 23kj/kg or what was the heat of enthalpy

asciilifeform: imho would still be useful tho, to have a suitcase-sized item that can wash and dry a single shirt..

PeterL: I run about 10 loads of wash a week, I don't want something that only handles one T-shirt at a time ☟︎

BingoBoingo: I've got a clothing fork on the balcony that holds quite a bit, but denim just doesn't seem to dry completely before dew falls i the night and gets it wet again.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have neighbours who use clotheslines; the prob is that these ~dunwork ~atall over here 4-5 months of year

BingoBoingo: I get the sun and wind. Even somewhat sheltered from most rain. More wind can be summoned with the heat pump too. For just about everything except demin it works.

BingoBoingo: In other olds becoming news Rodrigo of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-08#1840381 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-04#1847576 sent me a message out of the blue inquiring how the business is going. ☝︎☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-08-08 17:01 BingoBoingo: In other happy news, ben_vulpes may appreciate... Rodrigo is no longer with Latecho

a111: Logged on 2018-09-04 16:24 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> speaking of which, BingoBoingo you ARE making cozy with dc tech people rite ? taking them out to smoke & crimping them to pot or w/e it is they do socially there ? << Fairly friendly with them now that Rodrigo (Fellow who decided to be the point man in the February affair, ben_vulpes met) is gone.

BingoBoingo: Follow up: Wants to know if anyone is hiring, informed him a couple datacenter places in Sao Paulo appear to be growing fast. ☟︎

feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/04/in-us-capital-pro-maduro-protestors-march-against-guaido-at-embassy/ << Qntra -- In US Capital Pro-Maduro Protestors March Against Guaid At Embassy

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