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feedbot: http://mocky.org/Trick-or-Treat-Caring-vs-Uncaring-Whores/ << Mocky.org -- Trick or Treat: Caring vs Uncaring Whores
BingoBoingo: Mocky: Nice Qatar update
Mocky: thx
Mocky: got a handful more to grunt out. not that I'm back to work I have free time again
Mocky: then imma migrate to wp ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Funny how that works
Mocky: *now that I'm back to work
Mocky: i haven't had to go into the office every day for 10 years. takes some getting used to
BingoBoingo: Ah
BingoBoingo: Well, when you get vacation time whores are much easier (in theory) to find down here.
Mocky: im on 6 month contract to hire, so no paid time off until they beg me to go perm in July
BingoBoingo: Nevermind the whorehouse around the corner has a couple different websites proposing different hours (franchise operation linked to online online/cable tv porn channel).
Mocky: franchise, wtf lol
BingoBoingo: Mocky: It claims common ownership with the porn channel, but... its online presence is poorly coordinated by even the local standards
Mocky: such branding
BingoBoingo: And the prices are not competitive with the massage houses around Tres Cruces
Mocky: my new slave galley issued me a mac book pro. ugh, i thought i was going to make it to the grave without having to mac ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Well, think of it as them giving you a condom
Mocky: 'thunderbolt' ports only, even for power. every periph unusable without holy water blessed apple dongle
Mocky: took me a full minute to find the power button, turning it over and every which way.
BingoBoingo: Thankfully it minimizes the temptation to use it for anything else.
Mocky: at least there's an actual terminal unlike windows
BingoBoingo remembers first torx screwdriver fondly. Acquired at RadioShack in 1999 to open "Mac Classic"
mircea_popescu: o check it out, it's a mocky
Mocky: my first torx was to pull a ford brake pad
BingoBoingo: Mocky: Plenty of people have run into the terminal not actually being a terminal.
mircea_popescu: how's teh new job yo ?
Mocky: it's so social compared to working alone at home
mircea_popescu: haha. lotta hotties packed in a cube farm ?
Mocky: BingoBoingo: how so, bash still bash
Mocky: mircea_popescu: buncha cute chix there yea, lucky for them they now get a man to admire
mircea_popescu: i knew a guy took a pay cut to go tech support a call center.
mircea_popescu: his escort bills went down to ~0, which more than compensated
BingoBoingo: Mocky: The things it plugs into tend not to work the way expected on other systems. phf and pete_duskenski both ran into this iirc
mircea_popescu: seemed like he's on to something for a season. then his drama account blew through the roof.
Mocky: mircea_popescu: thought that was where the black chix who can't code go
mircea_popescu: Mocky not usually, call centers generally in orcistan, black girls who can't code only found in "our country".
Mocky: BingoBoingo: ah yes, i remember reading as much in the logs
BingoBoingo: In other news, tonight's second part of the local blackface parade is on despite lightening in the not so distant distance
mircea_popescu: everywhere else, they're like rabbits who can't fly -- nobody seems to notice.
Mocky: so many roles in 'modern development', mostly slotted by chix 'scrum master' 'product owner' 'ux designer' in addition to the traditional hr
BingoBoingo: What about "clean floors"?
mircea_popescu: basically euphemism threadmill for "social worker" aka "active fat black old woman on govt dole".
mircea_popescu: don't call the cripples handicapped anymore, and btw mammie is nao "scrum master", "helps outsiders identify which interactions with the scrum team are helpful and which aren't".
mircea_popescu: the "bitch, did anyone ask yo dum'ass anything ?" fundamental question still unanswered. and unanswered shall it stay, for as long as "participation" is "a value" etc.
BingoBoingo: So, new political commercial popped up during the Parade Break. In song form "Los atracadores, se van, se van" Ended with a time and date for a rally in Colonia.
BingoBoingo: About as relevant as a national campaign rally in Idaho would be if the US didn't have the electoral college.
BingoBoingo: Was a bigger shock than seeing a local naval infantry convoy consisting of a pickup truck and two motocicletas
Mocky: lol
BingoBoingo: The "Infanteria Naval" truck was a new sight outside of being stuck in traffic on Avenida General Riviera. Usually here we get the "Prefectura Naval"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-08#1893916 << i ended up clicking bb's linkbait, there's this funkenstain dood which sounds familiar. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 22:52 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: holy mother of fuck is that d00d's www a snoar nowadays
mircea_popescu: da fuck was he ? can't attach to anything. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-08#1893915 << he was, yes. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 22:50 asciilifeform: i didnt see much worth buying in BingoBoingostan.. or was mircea_popescu speaking of his locale
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He hung around and explicitly embraced socialism around the time of the BitBet death
mircea_popescu: so basically, talk-radio host only ?
BingoBoingo: Made an alt-coin "Wood Coin" chopped rather than mined. I confuse him in my head with Framedragger
BingoBoingo: I dunno if he even has the voice for radio.
BingoBoingo: Couple loud months, forgotten
BingoBoingo: or loud weeks
mircea_popescu: oh oh oh that's what he was, larping about something or the other, i ended up making money on an investment in it.
mircea_popescu: i recall now.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-08#1893943 << isn't it high time you took a hint, got a proper warehouse, with a two-truck wide dock and errything ? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 23:35 asciilifeform: 'where sir is loading dock' 'no dock, put on asphalt'
Mocky: in other news, I got my first ru spam blog comment разработка сайтов
BingoBoingo: Mocky: That's about 27% of Qntra spam as measured by eyeballs
BingoBoingo: Another 15% is spam advertising kokaine
BingoBoingo: Spam has changed
BingoBoingo: Or at least its tongue has
BingoBoingo: In other news, driving rain stopped the blackface parade which will be rescheduled because a 6,000,000 peso prize pool is on the line
mircea_popescu ended up writing a novel for mocky's comment sectyion
trinque: Mocky: man aside this caring spectrum construction, how do you approach the "staff hooker at trafficked locale" likelihood of being a viral sink multiplied by the success of the hotel in question?
trinque: I am almost never in the market for the advertised wares.
Mocky: trinque: I approach it by engaging them in conversation only
trinque: heh, the airgapped solution never fails!
BingoBoingo: trinque: Condoms work, the thinner the less likely to tear in honest vagina ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Mocky in modernation.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/two-theoretical-alternatives/#comment-118509 << in old lulz.
mircea_popescu: and jesus fuck my ro to english translations are terribad.
BingoBoingo: Well, 3 years later
BingoBoingo: And poor girls failing to leverage their natural rarity
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894007 << far out of budget, may as well be uboat ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 01:47 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-08#1893943 << isn't it high time you took a hint, got a proper warehouse, with a two-truck wide dock and errything ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I recall at some time before the Uruguay adventure suggesting southern illinois as a lower cost basis sticks
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1893996 << d00d ripped off trb, and even wrote a piece of yarn to go with it where 'he stole great jewel from dumb orcs'. today hangs with kako. seems to have sinological / eastern 'learnings' wank - leanings. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 01:42 mircea_popescu: da fuck was he ? can't attach to anything.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see also http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-29#1550604 ( seems to be defunkt nao tho ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-09-29 22:36 asciilifeform: http://woodcoin.xyz/woodcoin/today << lelz, apparently funkenstein made his own chan, a while ago, complete with logs, bots, etc.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894020 << wonder if anyone sells condom where 2 layers of rubber, and between'em -- capsaicin. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 02:53 BingoBoingo: trinque: Condoms work, the thinner the less likely to tear in honest vagina
asciilifeform: 'alarm bell'
trinque: ahahaha
trinque: product!
asciilifeform: lol
BingoBoingo: Latex is abrasive to latex
asciilifeform: so suspend the payload in something that aint
BingoBoingo: the two latex layers will inevitably touch
asciilifeform: this strictly to go into ye olde http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1892784 recurring-thread. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 14:57 asciilifeform: gotta indicate to owner when a piece of iron has realized that it is going south.
BingoBoingo: Capsaicin is an awfully loud alarm bell topically applied in meaningful concentrations
asciilifeform: novocain would work just as well for the job
asciilifeform: 'halon system' for cock.
BingoBoingo: What's numbing going to do to someone in the groove?
asciilifeform: if hole then stop.
asciilifeform: swap the thing, resume..
BingoBoingo: Either you have a numbing agent that isn't a vasoconstrictor and then what's an odd sensation on top of bliss or you have strong vasoconstrictor and "HOLY SHIT DICK IS SHRINKING" which adds possible complications due to fucking with circulation. could end up with priaprism clotting
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1893960 << requisition 'vmware', throw e.g. cuntoo inside, can pretend it's an actual comp ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 01:18 Mocky: my new slave galley issued me a mac book pro. ugh, i thought i was going to make it to the grave without having to mac
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: think of it as the mercaptan that gets added to naturalgas. it aint meant to enhance the smelling experience, quite opposite.
BingoBoingo: Mercaptan doesn't generally risk losing chunks of lung tissue. Effective local anesthetics/vasoconstrictors do risk killing meat if applied in uncontrolled manners.
asciilifeform: capsaicin then, lol.
BingoBoingo: Capsaicin in that respect is the less destructive alarm bell until encountered live.
BingoBoingo: In undergrad when Bush 2 was President my roommates and myself experimented with all sorts of "not torture" USG tech
BingoBoingo: Waterboarding generally induced more acute feelings of mortality, but OC... that left lingering resentments
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i recall, when 1st saw mention of 'waterboarding', didn't grasp what the item behind the limba de lemn was, thought 'ah, like snowboarding, but on water, that thing they do where board rides on wave' , initially was confused
BingoBoingo: Permeable wet rag applied over airholes, stream of water applied to rag
asciilifeform: well yes, 'the extraordinary question'(tm)(r)
trinque: ah I've chopped peppers then got dick out. isn't so bad
trinque: it'll wake you right up!
asciilifeform: ( conan doyle's 'the leather funnel' had a picturesque picture of the trad inquisition-style waterboard )
BingoBoingo: The explanation of the board becomes obvious when applying to subjects in bathtub. Gotta restrain the limbs
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: same func as of the 'bascule' in guillotine, aha
BingoBoingo: trinque: I've chopped peppers as well. The difference is concentration. Goes back to the cannabis threads.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, flailing is a reflex rather than conscious activity
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the trad sovok variant of this item is 'let's play elephant'. where with gas mask.
asciilifeform: dry waterboard, if you will.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: All I can say is I haven't spoken with 6 of 8 in a decade, 7 of 8 in 3 years
trinque: BingoBoingo: did I read this correctly in re: experimenting with torturing each other?
trinque: what, early 20s drug habit didn't cut it for y'all?
BingoBoingo: trinque: Midwestern liberal arts college band of brothers failed effort arising from a lack of culture
BingoBoingo: The only drugs we needed were a lot of booze an a bit of weed, when available.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno if you realise this, but condom is quite permeable.
mircea_popescu: not for large things like sperms, but vaporub certainly crosses.
asciilifeform: yea the latex type would be, wouldn't.
mircea_popescu: also, condom very vulnerable, wanna see a show put one on then sprinkle lime juice on it.
asciilifeform remembers the http://btcbase.org/log/2013-11-13#378362 thrd. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2013-11-13 14:20 asciilifeform: we had a beautifully-educational incident with DMSO
BingoBoingo: Fuck, DMSO carries everything
BingoBoingo: Up to bowling ball
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: no, but he's right, latex is porous .
trinque: BingoBoingo: isn't as though I don't appreciate the "subject me to something why don't you!!!" urge. was discussing this earlier in the shop.
mircea_popescu: seems the more natural and arguably healther way that college experience goes would be (c)a(r)nal knowledge.
BingoBoingo: trinque: No diminuative interpretation implied in the reading of your question.
BingoBoingo: Cattle prod is the gentlest introduction to "less lethal"
BingoBoingo: Followed by "tazer"
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: couldn't find ye olde trad army field telephone ?
BingoBoingo: Chicom "Picanas" though are up there with OC
trinque: "piss on the fence" jimmy
asciilifeform: wai straight to cattleprod.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Cattle prod is very localized stimulus
asciilifeform: so is field phone
BingoBoingo: I haven't licked a working field phone
trinque: in my young idiot tribe it was more an endurance game of substance abuse and seeing who was left standing at the end.
BingoBoingo: trinque: We did plenty of that too
BingoBoingo: But liberal arts college 2004-2008 we all knew Obola was bringing African Medicine and what is Pantsuit inca?
trinque: this was midwest somewheres?
BingoBoingo clearly remembers in 2004 being told "Hillary's turn next"
BingoBoingo: trinque: McKendree College, Lebanon Illinois 62254
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc recently they trotted out a new pantsuit cow whose 'turn next', but the name escapes me
trinque: the flailing and 300 liberal messiahs indicates they've got nothing left.
BingoBoingo: The Upper Classman apartements trinque were bordered by dairy cows grazing. Went to see week before taking off. Cows still there.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Kamala Harris. Opposed by AOC, a sort of short mestizo Pol Pot aspergant.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at umd they had ~1~ cow. with a sort of hatch installed in it, for didactic purposes. and when it keels over they make a new one.
trinque: BingoBoingo: it's not different from my evening; chugged a few beers with ben_vulpes and the junior gent. "throw me at anything boss!", and we still make these in TX apparently.
BingoBoingo: trinque: They had a chance until they refused me for the referance librarian position 2012-2017 advertised annually as 'entry level'
trinque: and what I've got for him isn't death, but "maybe we get a shot after enough webshits"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Working dairy. Multiple cows, one young black woman injured by escaped calf.
BingoBoingo: trinque: From what I see in Texas you at least had targets.
BingoBoingo: My cohort broke to humanities out of relativism, God still sorting out the casualties
mircea_popescu: this is possibly the shittiest college anyone yet named.
BingoBoingo: It gets shittier. I only read Lardner this past weekend. None of my three "academic advisers" read lardner.
BingoBoingo: I asked!
BingoBoingo: Still, more grounded than SIU Department of Philosophy which followed my doubling down.
trinque: somehow the recreational pain to humanities to jesus bridge makes perfect sense.
trinque: at any rate texas doesn't have much these days. you encounter these ones you can throw at anything at 100 ppm tops
BingoBoingo: As mentioned in the logs SIU Philosophy department has been more than gutted by their naive standards, more cuts to come.
BingoBoingo: McKendree went on a Bond Binge 2 years after I left, still binging. i suspect the landing will suck.
BingoBoingo: Mizzou surrendered any pretense it has to Univeristy in the name of sportsball, let accredidation in what I went there to degree in lapse, but...
BingoBoingo: Fucking chair of cards.
trinque: BingoBoingo: how are you finding uy these days
mircea_popescu: from on the ground reports, ~all us undergrad programmes mostly consist of junior data entry jobs these days.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Tranquilo. Imports are the biggest friction point, but even those are smooth.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: They don't unless standards for Junior Data Entry fell off of a cliff.
mircea_popescu: it's basically "look around on the net and paste in this box"
mircea_popescu: exams practically http://gothtypes.wikia.com/wiki/Emo_Goth one and all.
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry. TEXTBOOKS practically http://gothtypes.wikia.com/wiki/Emo_Goth one and all. exams -- https://www.gotoquiz.com/scemo_emo_goth_or_just_a_poser
BingoBoingo: My alma mater still let professors enforce pages and wordcount so gotta paste more.
mircea_popescu: replace "goth" with "engineer" or w/e, "poser" with "career woman", http://trilema.com/2014/how-the-other-half-lives-or-michael-o-church-is-a-scummy-fuckwit/ has the details./
BingoBoingo: The highest standards I encountered were at SIU, but what they wanted was the most retarded. Mizzou was in the middle as far as being in the middle of retardedness of desired spew and volume. McK was at the bottom for lack of discernable standards.
trinque: damn, I score 90% goth
BingoBoingo: fucking center for DEWEY studies (now defunct)
trinque updates resume
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/02/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-november-and-december-1715-part-i/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of November and December, 1715. - Part I.
mircea_popescu: trinque so does hanbot
BingoBoingo: Fuck is there a result other than 90% goth!
mircea_popescu: keks.
BingoBoingo: What does Bimbo score
nicoleci: 81% scene! suckk it goths
BingoBoingo: I blame Shitcago
BingoBoingo: All three syllables say cagada
nicoleci: lol no way! we should all blame indiana, for everything always
BingoBoingo: I dunno how Spanish works in Costa Rica beyong everyone pretending to be Usted.
BingoBoingo: But here cool means being de mierda, de demonio, de ...
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: The only place in Indiana that matters is New Harmony
nicoleci: whats so great about new harmony? a few extra farms? tractor exhibit? 2 kfc buffets?!
BingoBoingo: German pesant movements were buried there with Paul Tillich
BingoBoingo farted for emphasis
nicoleci: lol - ahh, im sorry for him thats where he ended up, would have been better in iowa
BingoBoingo: No, Iowa got the pretentious faggot workshop
nicoleci: lmao, what did iowa ever do besides being a better indiana?
BingoBoingo: Indiana gets thoeretical Utopian peasants, Illinois gets applied Utopian peasants, Iowa gets East Coast faggots on adventure
BingoBoingo: Iowa is a worse Indiana
nicoleci: lmao, BingoBoingo with the most accurate review of the midwest
BingoBoingo: I lived it before moving to a place even more rural
mircea_popescu: ahahaha check out the scenester
BingoBoingo: My hometown to this day exports transformers and high voltage switches though from one as opposed to three firms it once did
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, what did you do for fun there?
nicoleci: sounds pretty terrible
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: In younger times go to even smaller Alhambra, blow up ford escorts with the "toast club"
BingoBoingo: In older times go to AA meetings, Reunion with kids younger than "toast club"
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, the only scene i have is the one without water because the locals, turn it off at 9pm every night
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, what are ford escorts?!
BingoBoingo: Ok, I wonder why the locals here don't take the water quality remedy back home and use solar power to stir and oxygenate the water near the beach to prevent fishkills
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: Compact cars with a transmission that will mate to literally anything
BingoBoingo: Ample space under the hood.
BingoBoingo: Got a dump truck with a broken chassis? Toss that good motor in an escort.
nicoleci: ah okay, makes sense. this is giving me terrible flashbacks to indiana truck rallies
BingoBoingo: Did you do combine demolition derbies?
BingoBoingo: Pitting Harvesters past their economic utility in one last effort at a cash prize>
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, lmao i refused to go but of course. then you head to the county fair!
BingoBoingo: How many days was your county fair?
BingoBoingo: And how far was your walk to there
BingoBoingo especially enjoyed the police intervening in the combine demo derby for "attempted murder" when the hot driver loaded up the bin with stolen utility poles
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, like two weeks! and it cost money to get in, people talked about it for a fucking month before. Ahaha it was about 40 minutes from me so no walking, lake county, IN is a pretty large area unfortunately.
nicoleci: lmao, sounds about right.
BingoBoingo: lol, mine was and still is one week though the days shifted
nicoleci: drama at the county fair! so many suspect ICP fans
BingoBoingo: Niver less than five minutes on foot until it turned into 20+ hours on plane
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, ah sweet freedom.
BingoBoingo down was down with the clown but always got lost on the way to the gathering... Until it lost its appeal
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: I suspect the Republic's biggest audience historically has been of midwestern upbringing for the acuteness of what pantsuit stole being felt.
BingoBoingo: Other parts of the world feel less.
BingoBoingo: Mind trinque, ben_vulpes, and asciilifeform living in alt-Midwests to this day
BingoBoingo: Or danielpbarron defecting to a midwest without any loam at all
BingoBoingo hopes to have opened at least one new vein for mircea_popescu and hanbot to mine
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, hahaha! i hope you get to met your hero shaggy2dope one day
nicoleci: i can see it re the republic!
BingoBoingo: Fuck that loser, Violent J
BingoBoingo: Anyways, my hometown and several near it were the lucky ones in the region for NOT having coal veins of importance
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, why lucky?
BingoBoingo: Today they are places you can plop down a US stick and plastic "habitation" without eating an insurance dick for risk on mine subsidence
BingoBoingo: When they mines died, unlike their unlucky neighbors they didn't Qatar and die
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, ahh I see and this was in Illinois? steel is our defunct industry
BingoBoingo: Next town over friend of the father's family runs his farm with energy costs == teflon tape for not selling mineral rights over an empty rock dome which today is a pressurized natgas router.
BingoBoingo: Steel is a defuct industry here too, but they used to and around Nashville still mine coal. But the kind rich in sulfur. No anthracite primadonna shit.
BingoBoingo: Lots of black sand dollars, and retard shark jaws
BingoBoingo: Turns out no one cares about fossils when there's rocks to burn
BingoBoingo can not recommend DIY mine tours on the grounds that IRL hell is cold and wet
BingoBoingo: Indiana's primary disability is it lacks Illinois' geological weird at the extremes
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, cant imagine what youd find in a mine. agreed, indiana only has limestone and plenty of caves to tour
BingoBoingo: Well, dead shark jaws and black sand dollars a plenty. Like other not that uncommon things people pretend there's market scarcity until a grand kid unloads grandpa's hoard.
BingoBoingo: Then they specify and region wank defending what they are holding from the new aggressive seller. Very much a Chinese bullion coin problem.
nicoleci: interesting - unsurprisingly i had no idea about the black sand dollars and dead shark jaws
BingoBoingo: Well, coal generally signifies dead organic shit
BingoBoingo: Apparently Albers, Illinois used to be shark country
nicoleci: hmm makes sense. so much cooler than indiana. i lived in naperville for a year, such a mistake.
BingoBoingo: Oh, You are a Yankee
BingoBoingo: Naperville Illinois is such a pale nanny state shithole
BingoBoingo bases that on hotel pool being closed 8th grade state geography bee... to the extent Illinois could pretend such a contest
BingoBoingo: Rockford much cooler, Koi in the hotel lobby (6th grade lower standards, ratchet works one way)
BingoBoingo: This of course ends in not being down with the clown because lil' debbie claims to be the ratchet, a claim contested by alicia all whatever the fuck
BingoBoingo: Followed by mud huts surrounding mine tailing retention ponds, declarations that small mouth bass ought to have three eyes, and why shouldn't your cousin be the prettiest girls, etc, etc,
BingoBoingo: Definitive cultural artifact, apologies for the Vexual format: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt0C7yVhkaY
BingoBoingo: Titled: "MICHELLE OBAMA" Official Video - LiL DEBBiE & RiFF RAFF + ATL..."
BingoBoingo: Midwest stress can break 4 ways from my perch: to republic, to the grindstone, to walmart scootypuffs, and to African booty Purple Drank shit
BingoBoingo: In order of ascending popularity and indictment of demoocracy
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, lmao! lil debbie is a terrorist, ugh riff raff was probably born at walmart and true rockford is much cooler. asciilifeform is going to be so mad at the quality of the channel discussion
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what you two are on about, by and large.
BingoBoingo: WoT is a thing. I have my doubts asciilifeform will find this tangent without quality as I took him to the Tres Cruses national bus terminal and shopping for ice cream and shade en route to the store that sells cables.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Take it on my word you are better off not knowing
BingoBoingo: This is white folks in african mud huts
BingoBoingo: Pantsuit endgame shit
nicoleci: lmao truth.
BingoBoingo: White girls with the one token white guy chanting pantsuit friendly phraseology to a beat
BingoBoingo: Corresonds to fall 2015 sobering the fuck up
nicoleci: so when are you guys coming to costa rica? Bring trinque
mircea_popescu: why trinque ?
BingoBoingo: I am not comfortable being outside of a leisurley walk to the Pizarro Rack without coverage.
nicoleci: i feel like hed appreciate this, and asciilifeform of course
BingoBoingo: surley, becaue there is one bum normally situated in the other direction who enjoys playing with his mortality too much
mircea_popescu: oh i read ~barring~ was confused.
mircea_popescu: anyway, im guessing after this spirited bout of dank posting, bb will be forever known as bimboboingo
BingoBoingo: Nah, she's too tall
nicoleci: the boingoest
BingoBoingo entertained the afrodescendiente bitches in old country, awful ergonomics
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=ergonomics
asciilifeform suspects magick BingoBoingostani pie
BingoBoingo: I'm 5'7, hooked 5'9 and 5'11 lean testaments to Africa back where Africa was trendy.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you ate both halves didntcha.
mircea_popescu: i think he might've eaten three halves.
nicoleci: lmaooo, my favorite day in #trilema
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You can't dry the memories, but taste testing candidates for "the mellow stuff"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so send 'em to cr, we take 6 foot non-pink nippled gals here.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ftr asciilifeform found that 1 half is quite enuff to 'watch cartoons on ceiling'
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, please. i have to see asciilifeform on edibles
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: carbon black nipples the both of them. Raised withing 5 km of each other. One catholic schools (not rare) other "baptist" school.
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: asciilifeform looks the same as he always does when he isn't wearing his special customs clearing outfit
BingoBoingo: And the edibles are some dangerous shit. Put a venue to sleep for ~10 pesos a head and leave em stupid for a week using the common sourced shit.
nicoleci: lmao! the racks will be okay for a few days
BingoBoingo: Stoners talk about "CBD" like its a miracle for a reason. It is not that "CBD" is a miracle fix everything drug. It is that "CBD" is a partial agonist at the receptors they soak!
BingoBoingo: <nicoleci> lmao! the racks will be okay for a few days << Not if the jews know which few days
asciilifeform: wat was 'cbd' ?
BingoBoingo: For Chronic self disabilitating stoners "CBD" will lift them out of the fog.
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, so hows the paranoia on edibles lol
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Partial antagonist to the receptors THC hits
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: Less than the sedation.
BingoBoingo: Seriously changes the "How I would have done it" of every heist movie involving drugs ever.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, as a partial agonist CBD, should your flower have it caps how high the high is
BingoBoingo: And caps how long the high is
BingoBoingo: And apparently is in all the "creative flower" as reconstructed by "justus todd Raveneirs"
BingoBoingo: Like Vareniciline for nicotine, except... not touching the dominant muscle receptor
BingoBoingo: Maybe some babies with congentital weird stop seizing to death on CBD, but the principal benefit seems to be to confirmed stoners who want to stop actively disabling themselves
nicoleci: lol well this has been informative.
BingoBoingo: nicoleci: There was another thread near http://bingology.net/2018/10/14/that-one-agricultural-product-and-uruguay/ where mircea_popescu mentioned he veteran stoner knocked out by new shit
BingoBoingo: Out for 8+ hours like an oxy freak, but on pantsuit friendly cannajeans
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, hanbot has a great story regarding that!
nicoleci: as they say, dont get high off of your own supply
BingoBoingo: This is Uruguay, I am surrounded by retards who do indoor tends while posessing perfectly good baclonies with sun exposure.
BingoBoingo: The mission, as I see it, is to find an antidote. The high times promises this antidote is a partial agonist they call CBD>
BingoBoingo: Tonight I am tempted to burn them all for fucking my already abysmal dyslexiatech spell algorithms
BingoBoingo recommends if one must have a drug induced break down the best place is in a public where the peers know your baseline
BingoBoingo still pretty sure recommending 35k cost basis locations with 75k wages to alf in 2015 which had loading docks
BingoBoingo: Dry cleaning may not always be a living, but it is an industry
nicoleci: BingoBoingo, sounds like Uruguay is still on to something
BingoBoingo: Not really, they made a piss poor showing at their own expo cannabis unmanning their own domestic seed bank booths. Current sample which exceeds disability I am inclined to share with datacenter is "Auto Blue Ace CBD" by "Delicious Seeds"
BingoBoingo: Aftertaste they accurately describe as hash. For effect they mention NOTHING at all about my crank case full of strawberry cosby.
BingoBoingo: This isn't the pisspot story. Cocaine has some virtues. I dunno that weed can be anything other than Pol Pot shit
BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2017/the-pisspots/ for reference
nicoleci: lmao to bad, sounds more organized than Costa Ricas product
BingoBoingo: Well Paraguay is either #1, #2 or #3 in the world and Paraguay isn't your almost neighbor
BingoBoingo: <nicoleci> lmao to bad, sounds more organized than Costa Ricas product << Before you think this could be a good thing consider tomatoes back home
nicoleci: hmmm interesting point.
BingoBoingo: To Spoil this country's domestic indoor crop only requires 10-24 male plants of southwest asian descent started last week
BingoBoingo: Wind does the rest
BingoBoingo: Consider the water tumor that is a Walmart tomato, the sickness that is a farmers market tomato, and the bliss that is one of your grandparent's tomatoes provided they don't suck
BingoBoingo: If you have ate a purple tomato you know what I mean. If you ate a SOLID purple tomato... that is a lot of dye... are you still pissing blue?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you need some sleep you know.
feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/02/hanbots-cuntoo-bake-test-notes-part-i/ << The Whet -- hanbot's Cuntoo Bake Test Notes - Part I ☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: Verdict: too active to be the mellow stuff
Mocky: mircea_popescu: thx for the mega comment
auctionbot: Buy order # 1038 has ENDED: No sale. Attn: BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: Mocky now you gotta answer it :D ☟︎
mircea_popescu: also this style where the quotes are 2.5x the text in comments is for the fish.
Mocky: i'm still reading the links. currently at http://trilema.com/2017/paolo-il-caldo/
Mocky: yeah, my hand rolled blog is not long for this world http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1893948 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 01:06 Mocky: then imma migrate to wp
Mocky: i will answer
mircea_popescu: no rush.
mircea_popescu: btw, totally worth seeing the films referenced, half dozen or so they may be, in the sense that i don't expect there's any chance of your having encountered them or anything like them on your own.
mircea_popescu: bubble bursting is the exact converse activity of naggum's http://www.loper-os.org/?p=165#selection-391.394-391.502 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (i mean in the sense that by the time one's seen everything, the order starts mattering so much. in fact the order's mostly important before completion, in that it holds predictive value. which is to say that if i can cut the space of existence into the set of "he has probably seen" and "he has probably not seen" i have a significant strategic advantage over the he.)
mircea_popescu: the order stops mattering*
Mocky: Pretty likely I haven't encountered the like, I'll watch
mircea_popescu: bwahahaha new england patriots won the superbowl ? what the everfuck.
mircea_popescu: i had nfi "greater boston area" had a team, when the fuck did this happen.
Mocky: i'm assuming "Eu cind vreau sa fluier, fluier" == "Eu cand vreau sa fluier, fluier". The former named in http://trilema.com/2016/a-story-of-men/ the latter available for download
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: "I, when feeling like whistling, whistle", and not the atrocious barbarism it's marketed as.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894304 << hey loox like mircea_popescu found how to set off a ~second~ bug in the selector ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 15:31 mircea_popescu: bubble bursting is the exact converse activity of naggum's http://www.loper-os.org/?p=165#selection-391.394-391.502
mircea_popescu: darn, not worky ?
mircea_popescu: i had "That the probably only _truly_ random element in anyone’s life is the order in which they experience things" selected.
asciilifeform: apparently not, and i dunneven know why just yet
asciilifeform: ty mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=165#selection-393.393-393.502 seems to work...
asciilifeform: very odd.
mircea_popescu: i see it.
mircea_popescu: nfi what the fuck was up its ass.
asciilifeform: i gotta saw that thing open again when i get free hand
mircea_popescu: conceivably some context leakage by browser, i wouldn't fucking bother until we actually have a browser that works.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894292 << hanbot : the link to ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 07:54 feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/02/hanbots-cuntoo-bake-test-notes-part-i/ << The Whet -- hanbot's Cuntoo Bake Test Notes - Part I
asciilifeform: mod6 is broken
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894292 << hanbot : the link to mod6 is broken ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 07:54 feedbot: http://thewhet.net/2019/02/hanbots-cuntoo-bake-test-notes-part-i/ << The Whet -- hanbot's Cuntoo Bake Test Notes - Part I
asciilifeform: grr i gotta stiffen the spring tension on that 'return' pedal.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'browser that works' would be a mighty great thing.
asciilifeform: currently i've nfi out of what one'd even begin to make it, tho
asciilifeform: hm hanbot doesn't seem to have the selector js thing in place ( or does, and it dungo..? )
asciilifeform: hanbot: i thought you were gonna revv up a cuntoo ? article seems to concern a classical gentoo install ?
asciilifeform: the provided box is already running a trad gentoo; theoretically should suffice for bringing up cuntoo, as i understand
asciilifeform brb,tea
BingoBoingo: !Xbuy 154mn 24 500 Wired Filthy Fiats (WU esta bien)
auctionbot: Buy order # 1039 created by BingoBoingo: 500 Wired Filthy Fiats (WU esta bien) Opening: 154mn ecu Ending: 2019-02-10 04:37:54.605523 UTC (23 hours)
BingoBoingo: ^ Take 3
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894296 << answered ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 15:29 mircea_popescu: Mocky now you gotta answer it :D
trinque: hanbot: two things. one, you'll need to build phf's vtools and have that available in the build environment. the build wont generate a genesis.vpatch without it.
trinque: secondly, the build expects you to pass a whole block device (disk) upon which it will write a completely new partition scheme. you don't want to do this to the drive from which you booted.
asciilifeform: trinque: we supplied hanbot with box containing empty sata disk, and separate (usb) drive from which booted.
asciilifeform: seems to me from the article that hanbot went to setup up a ~traditional~ gentoo 1st, which as i understand isn't actually needed ( machine already booted into 1 )
trinque: yep, just needs a virgin disk. no need to stand up another vanilla gentoo on that disk first; the bootstrapper handles everything else.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Seems like the sort of thing that can save work later. The supplied USB is a "live" image working off of a squashfs
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it has 12G of writeable space, oughta suffice for cuntoo build afaik
BingoBoingo: Indeed. Yet I suspect doing a heathen gentoo on the spinning disk will provide a valuable point of contrast Cuntoo. There's 2 kinds of steps you can insert into a process beyond the minimum. Educative ones where you explore the space gathering experience which may be useful later. The other kind are pure friction a la SOPS.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as i understand, then would need a ~third~ disk for cuntoo.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho there's not much educational value any moar in setting up ancient gentoo; it's obsoleted by cuntoo, and quite difficult to revv up on acct of the dead mirrors ☟︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: We've got disks both USB and a second missile code free 160G spinner
asciilifeform: i'm not even certain that it's ~possible~ today to glue together a complete classical gentoo ( and if possible today -- may not be tomorrow )
asciilifeform: was sorta half the reason for cuntoo in the 1st place
BingoBoingo: Ah
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there is of course the bottled gentoo i baked for rk; but it is also arguably a technological dead-end, and eventually oughta be replaced with arm cuntoo
asciilifeform: ( cuntoo was not available when i baked rk , and it was necessary to work around the sad state of the upstream mirrors, hence why bottled it )
asciilifeform: rk-gentoo still pulls from heathen mirrors if you 'emerge ...' , i dun expect this will work 4evah
asciilifeform: and incidentally ( achtung rk users ! ) if you are careless and allow 'emerge' to update, you will hose the machine, from that point it will whine ( about the prohibition on systemd!! ) and grind to a halt when asked to emerge anyffin
asciilifeform: i'd prefer to get the rk plant onto a working cuntoo as soon as it becomes practical.
asciilifeform: iirc this is amply documented in the logs, but will remind folx again, ~errything~ on the heathen mirrors oughta be considered in full fungal bloom, at this pt.
asciilifeform: i defungated this bread crust many times, but there aint so much bread remaining in it.
asciilifeform: a working cuntoo is the only path fwd for reproducible, reasonably-working unix box.
hanbot: asciilifeform, trinque, BingoBoingo no, i'm aware. nevertheless, wanted to try getting a gentoo on first, seeing how it's in fact needed, and perhaps the general case of someone who isn't this good friends with this many experts is to be explored. ☟︎
lobbesbot: hanbot: Sent 2 days, 15 hours, and 19 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ODjpO/?raw=true << Credentials for AMD64 box
hanbot: doesn't seem too rosy, either. (i just hope i didn't hose your install usb in the process somewhere.)
BingoBoingo: hanbot: I still have the image I wrote and other sticks up to 16GB locally sourced without Uruguay pricing hitting too hard
mod6: fwiw, I've been working on trying to get cuntoo working for 10 days.
mod6: not 10 full days, but certainly 10 days of approx. 2 hour sessions each day. i've been hooking up null modem cables to capture kernel panics... i've taken to hacking trinque's scripts, just about everything to try to conquer this type of error:
mod6: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
mod6: Anyway, I think it maybe just hates my iron for some unknown reason. Obviously, I leaving out a lot of details here, but i've tried everything, different boot loaders, minor adjustments to fstab, a working kernel, map and initrd from the working gentoo (ON THE SAME BOX)... a hand built initrd.
mircea_popescu: mod6 you gotta post all this wtf.
mod6: the list goes on and on.
asciilifeform: mod6: if yours panics, sounds like kernel (or even iron) problem , rather than cuntoo issue
asciilifeform: cuntoo afaik is atm silent on the question of what goes in kernel.
mod6: well, I didn't want to send people down rabbit holes, but now im at the point where I think I can't get any further with out more help.
mod6: right, i agree, so i don't think it's ~cuntoo~ per se... but imagine this. I've had gentoo running on that hardware for nearly a year since i bought it.
mod6: it has a name, 'trb-test1', a simple gentoo box to run trb test builds.
asciilifeform: mod6: i assume you fed trinque's script your kernel config ?
mod6: yup, exactly.
mod6: and a whole bunch of slight variants trying to unfuck the thing.
asciilifeform: mod6: mircea_popescu already said, but pleeez post your process
mod6: yeah, im long overdue for a blog on the thing.
asciilifeform: lotsa folx over the years tried 'telepathic debug', but it never worx, we aint got any telepaths
mircea_popescu: thinking about http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894351 / http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894364 it seems to me that we've created this situation where at the same time a) there's no real purpose to still looking at heathen gentoo as anything more than crap but also b) there's not very clearly delineated "use this prepackaged thing" (nor is a all that clearly communicated). ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 18:02 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho there's not much educational value any moar in setting up ancient gentoo; it's obsoleted by cuntoo, and quite difficult to revv up on acct of the dead mirrors
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 18:24 hanbot: asciilifeform, trinque, BingoBoingo no, i'm aware. nevertheless, wanted to try getting a gentoo on first, seeing how it's in fact needed, and perhaps the general case of someone who isn't this good friends with this many experts is to be explored.
mod6: after lastnights mis-adventure; i'm out of ideas, so I'll stop banging on it and make a post.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: heathen gentoo is exactly lenin's 'we build the new shithouse from the rubble of the old, there aint any imported brick to build it from'
mircea_popescu: "transition phase", whatever, but the point remains that if we're going to actually take the a) view then something very much like what she's looking for ("i took what looked like the tmsr official gentoo off the foundation site") should also exist.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: presently exists for rk. do you suppose also oughta have one for pc ?
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing what we actually want here is to get cuntoo ready already and then just skip this step altogether ; meanwhile sit unprotected
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't specifically know, but what she says is not without merit, "what's somebody other than me supposed to do???"
mircea_popescu: after all, the whole fucking point of "test this" is the "somebdoy other than me" outlook. otherwise what, "worked for me" ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ideally would be 'download trinque's signed iso and boot from it, then install cuntoo' ☟︎
asciilifeform: but loox like we aint there yet
mircea_popescu: gotta look around when testing.
asciilifeform: i gotta agree with mircea_popescu tho, the current recipe is very muchly 'wanna light a fire? take a stick, and yer old fire..'
mircea_popescu: won't be the end of the world if we manage to actually have a cuntoo in a few months.
asciilifeform: trinque: what's the obstacle currently in the way of a bootable cuntoo iso ?
mircea_popescu: well for one thing he's waiting for some sig reproductions.
mircea_popescu: or at any rate, i'd be were i him.
asciilifeform: rright , but this apparently requires a working fossilized gentoo. to reproduce at all.
mod6: i should add, that my output genesis has never verified with his original sig, i admit to not even trying his new sig posted in his comment section.
mod6: just because I can't even get it to boot, so just left that aside for the time being.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider this phd assemblyline we've made here : both mod6 and hanbot have sunk >1 hour into it with little to show for.
mod6: i'll go to work on a blog post, this weekend. will try to capture all the details.
mircea_popescu: and this is the ~reported~, who knows what else.
asciilifeform: what i thought hanbot was going to do, is to attempt trinque's recipe using BingoBoingo's beachhead stick . then BingoBoingo's fossil gentoo can be pressed into service as standard beachhead, while such thing still needed.
mod6: i've actually been lucky enough to have shinohai's ear this whole time too, who actually has a working cuntoo.
mircea_popescu: seems that's definitely what she's going to do now.
mod6: but, again, maybe it's this intel hardware. not sure.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno about you, but i am fucking suspicious as all hell of all these "here's our matrix dot printer, to use it here's the matrix dot printer program".
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's not my fossil gentoo outside of the sense I plucked it out of the wild for a lack of anything else
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the only total cure for thompsonism is to ditch unix/c/pc/etc entirely. we aint there yet tho.
mod6: on the bright side, i thought that my inital new SSD i ordered for cuntoo was just bad in some way, so i went and bought another. so now i have a spare :]
mircea_popescu not about to pull a stink about it in the instant case, obviously. but the general config still is "wtf, can't use my own gentoo for this, gotta use apple's cable ?"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem is that 'my own gentoo' is not a defined item.
mircea_popescu: good thing it has a name.
asciilifeform: sorta why it gotta die to begin with.
mod6: i should also mention that shinohai's working cuntoo is a APU box - not intel.
mircea_popescu: shinohai did you publish all this somewhere ?
mod6: anyway, I apologize for not reporting sooner, just thought that I could emerge victorious one of these attempts. I'll stfu and go to work on a blog with more deets.
mircea_popescu: mod6 as a rule of thumb, a thing whatever it may be that took over a coupla hours of your time's ripe for blog article by the very nature of life expectancy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall the 9000 headaches of folx who tried to build pre-rotor trb ? asciilifeform did not resort to 'and now run this 4 hour script that builds a gcc, and then builds with it a gcc, and ~then~ builds deps, and ~then~ trb' just to make life moar interesting.
mircea_popescu: tes,\
mircea_popescu: yes*
asciilifeform: it was forced move, on acct of the shitfest that is 'bring own linux'
mircea_popescu: i'm looking at this with an eye to eulora client also and so fucking following.
shinohai: mircea_popescu: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/blog/cuntoo-a-linux-that-sucks-less.html <<< I will mention that the USB version won't boot yet, only useful as chroot device.
mircea_popescu: shinohai well, so does trinque 's sig match ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: indeed overripe now, point taken, Sir.
shinohai: His sig matched in that case, yes. Subsequent attempts on my i5 lappy have failed to get matching sig.
mod6: ahh, yeah mine is i5 also fwiw.
BingoBoingo: HyperThread(TM)(R)?
mod6: maybe?
mircea_popescu: shinohai did you post the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-03#1892049 anywhere ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-03 17:19 trinque: diana_coman: might I get a tarball of your cuntoo build directory's present state?
mod6: like i said, i'll stfu, and write up a post, will include my kernconf.
mircea_popescu: for that lappy i mean
shinohai: Nope, haven't posted the build/ directory up yet. Probably will do so soon.
mircea_popescu: ok so basically so far the situation's that shinohai managed to get trinque's sig to match on a rk but not an intel lappy, while diana_coman mod6 hanbot failed to get it to match on a diverse set of items (laptop, desktop, racked box).
mircea_popescu: and it also came to light it can't yet be seated on 32 bit machines.
mircea_popescu: that about the situation so far ?
hanbot: well my failed attempt isn't known to have anything to do with cuntoo, as i didn't touch it yet.
mircea_popescu: a yes, preparatory phases yet. alright.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Rather than a rk, shinohai cuntoo'd and AMD E-300 (AMD 64) laptop
shinohai: Yeah, I haven't a rk yet to try, that may come in few weeks
mircea_popescu: ah ok.
mircea_popescu: shinohai you gonna be selling eulora machines nao, like danielpbarron used to ?
mircea_popescu: god knows it'd have come in handy, at the least during http://logs.minigame.biz/2019-01-17.log.html#t11:10:22 sadness.
lobbesbot: Logged on 2019-01-17 11:10:22: <requiemzz> im having issues installing the game on linux its failing after running "make"
shinohai: I wish ... would like to have a barn full of the AMD boards, not the most powerful in the world but run really great, even with own gentoo recipe.
mircea_popescu: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/blog/dpb-removed-from-republican-rss-roll.html << lol, check out the skeptical/aloof/pardoy/etcetera, theological discussions, #trilema-from-a-distance, what have you.
mircea_popescu: you know, you're failing to keep up! there's been at least a coupla more items hence!
shinohai: I love lampooning, it's the point of whole blog!
shinohai misses Qntra shitcoin lampooning most, but audience is good now on own pages.
mircea_popescu: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/blog/bcinfobot.html << anyone want his bot in here ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: shinohai shouldn't you have a comment section or something ?
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/02/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-jan-febr-and-march-1716-part-iv/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of Jan. Febr. and March 1716. - Part IV.
shinohai: Possibly, was experimenting with this comment based on btc block times thing, still haven't got it sorted.
mircea_popescu: is this basically your hand spun cl cms or what ?
shinohai: The bot? Or the blog.
mircea_popescu: the blog
shinohai: Blog is just an awk script that generates pages since I like composing from vim. (If wp had this feature would gladly use)
mircea_popescu: why doesn't it ?
mircea_popescu: i mean... you can compose it in emacs and email it to the blog even
shinohai: I dunno if in logs, but I tried this with mp-wp couple years back and didn't get it working properly. https://github.com/dsawardekar/wordpress.vim
mircea_popescu: do you specifically want hooks and all that ? what am i missing here, you can just write your article in vim and either email it to the blog's pop3 acct or else paste it in the web box i guess.
mircea_popescu: though honestly, if i wanted to vim-face mp-wp, i'd put a vimterface on ~mysql~ directly, rather than the wp wrapper.
shinohai: Well I often find myself using box with no X server, is there a way to say make curl request or something that would paste into web box?
mircea_popescu: https://vimconf.wordpress.com/ << meanwhile in other lulz.
mircea_popescu: shinohai certainly.
mircea_popescu: and you can definitely use the email route. moreover, if you suck in some gpgtron, you can even have the thing exposed, and only publish signed content.
shinohai: If so, would be simple matter of making vim alias
mircea_popescu: you specifically want to curl into the web box ?
shinohai: yup
mircea_popescu: well, put something like httpfox on a browser or w/e you use for that, BingoBoingo can set you up a test acct on their shared environment, and you can capture the request it makes and use that in the future.
mircea_popescu: prolly need a coupla cookies and the exact path of wp-admin/blabla
mircea_popescu: actually, a completely curl-tomated mp-wp interaction thingee would be a great addition to mp-wp itself, imo.
mircea_popescu: login/create new article/insert pics/publish/check pending comments/approve/mark as spam sorta thing.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/02/macronist-forces-continue-maiming-french-population-as-yellow-jacket-has-hand-taken-from-him/ << Qntra -- Macronist Forces Continue Maiming French Population As Yellow Jacket Has Hand Taken From Him
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894395 << the aim is to have people understand what I built and packaged up before cutting such an ISO ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 18:37 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ideally would be 'download trinque's signed iso and boot from it, then install cuntoo'
trinque: when an ISO is cut, it will come with a corresponding ISO-cutter ebuild.
mircea_popescu: i don't even agree, fwiw. i'm not about to saddle you with a "now you gotta maintain magic gentoo" task.
mircea_popescu: the pointers should point to cuntoo, once it's ready.
trinque: it's ready; I run it all day.
mircea_popescu: i mean in the sense of "well, buncha people checked sigs, signed themselves, are running it all day"
trinque: ah yes
mircea_popescu: doesn't seem all that far off, shinohai got eulora running on it apparently.
mircea_popescu: eg, you run it all day, but apparently not on 32 bit machines ? that sorta thing.
mircea_popescu: needs to diffuse a little more, it seems.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, hey asciilifeform do we have any plans to move phuctor to cuntoo ?
mircea_popescu: kinda seems like we should.
trinque: reading the logs since I departed, seems like it'd be helpful to do another post (after a bunch of sig verifications) where I do a literate version of the script ☟︎
trinque: it'd be a decent intro to what's linux
mircea_popescu: literate versions never EVER hurt anything.
mircea_popescu: nor the writer nor the reader.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd like to move ~all~ of asciilifeform-tended irons to cuntoo eventually.
mircea_popescu: yes but neveremind the generalities. specifically phuctor, it's from what i understand just python ?
mircea_popescu: + of course postgres.
asciilifeform: front end is python , back end is statically linked c that'll run anywhere
asciilifeform: current concern item is pg yea
mircea_popescu: seems like the "i run it all day" glove could benefit from the sort of heavy duty brush phuctor can provide.
mircea_popescu: now THAT is "i run all day", literally, multiply numbers at processor speed 24/7
asciilifeform: phuctor is actually due for a redisking , for expanded space, would like to combine this with encuntooation, once we establish that pg runs
mircea_popescu: this'd be grand. when's the due date ?
asciilifeform: no sooner than hanbot is done with her proj on the spare unit, but no reason to wait any longer .
mircea_popescu: jesus the blockings.
asciilifeform: i'ma prepare a pilot box on desk for cuntooism and reproduction of pg etc
mircea_popescu: good idea.
asciilifeform: it gotta be done at any rate, currently asciilifeform is the tortoise in the cuntoo race fulla achileses
mircea_popescu: keks.
asciilifeform: my last shot failed, and with no usable debugola, but trinque has updated since, and high time to retry.
mircea_popescu: tbh this thing is moving along quite prettily ; once we've had eulora and phuctor run on it for a few months we'll know whether it's stable or not and if not what to fix.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, can start talking of a much better trb sitting.
asciilifeform: really it's primarily a test of muslism
asciilifeform: in all other respects it's ~identical to ressonably vintage trad gentoo , mechanically
mircea_popescu: i guess so. though, as you well pointed out, "gentoo" doesn't mean anything, and adding "vintage" or "traditional" dun fix this.
asciilifeform: ( trinque plox to correct if i'm mistaken )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the only genuinely informative parameter re old gentoo is vintage -- steady rise of fungi the closer to present day
trinque: yes, snapshot-and-fork of a musl-gentoo, but particularly that the snapshotting produces a genesis.vpatch
trinque: of /cuntoo/portage , the ebuild tree
trinque: the genesis.vpatch is also human-sized, does not contain everything that was in gentoo portage. it contains only what is necessary to have a booting system.
trinque: (if I did not do the gruntwork of identifiying and extracting only the needed ebuilds, genesis would've been nearly 1gb instead of ~4mb)
mircea_popescu: trinque "it's a test of musl" in the sense that if something breaks it'll likely be that, not reasonable to expect that because you took out whatever solitaire version gets bundled with gentoobuntu then therefore your build crashes.
asciilifeform: trinque: this makes sense, esp. in light of where portage really oughta be replaced with vtronic system eventually
mircea_popescu: THOUGH, in fairness, the genuine ubuntu very much fucking would, http://trilema.com/2014/ubuntu-is-a-worse-piece-of-shit-than-ms-dos-ever-was/#selection-149.127-149.158 and all that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: correct, it's the 1 major param on which differs substantially , in ways known to break old softs
trinque: correct
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: shituntu in that sense ~worse than winblowz~, afaik
mircea_popescu: "this one crash that only happens twice every third saturday when running postgres on cuntoo in x mode with y switch doing z task" is still catastrophic, as these things go.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was making a 2014 point, see. that portion of it meanwhile obsolete.
asciilifeform: i've never used shituntu for anyffin aside from 'rescue disk' 1ce, and even in ~that~ job it fails utterly
mircea_popescu: i use it to torture girls. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: delivers splendidly.
asciilifeform: lol why not put'em on e.g. os/2
asciilifeform: or irix
asciilifeform: or other horror from depths of time
mircea_popescu: cuz this has social media support.
asciilifeform: lolk
mircea_popescu: they can go where they normally go and engage in the usual http://trilema.com/2017/fake-news-are-just-one-tail-of-the-failed-female-state/ activities they expect "will help" and also "are the only way to go", because #metoo and those maga people are assholes. etc.
mircea_popescu: it's well chosen.\
trinque: btw this means that e.g. what mod6 is experiencing are more likely to be "I need to go understand kernels and lilo better" than "cuntoo is broken" ☟︎
asciilifeform: wonder if there's a 'firefox' for irix..
mircea_popescu: trinque i didn't suspect cuntoo was necessarily at fault there, no.
mircea_popescu: nor did he, lol.
trinque: possible his kernel relies on the magical module or firmware loading initrds tend to perform
trinque: or my lilo setup could be bunk in some context; would love to know moar
mircea_popescu: right.
asciilifeform: iirc we discussed this, for max hygiene one wants 'module-less' kernel config
asciilifeform: as seen on e.g. rk
mircea_popescu: well yes but that doesn't work on all hw.
asciilifeform: ( change all yer 'M' to a 'Y' .. ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: correct, it's a 2-step process, first gotta find what yer iron actually needs re kernelisms
mircea_popescu: true.
mircea_popescu: a, btw... are we also putting an x on this thing ?
mircea_popescu goes to dig for phf 's original x rant... that thing was something else.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun keep x on racked boxen, and dunno why anybody would, aside from truly exotic case
mircea_popescu: so who says cuntoo is for racked boxes only.
asciilifeform: ah q was re cuntoo per se ?
asciilifeform: gotta bake some sorta x, if you work w/ graphical www, gimp, etc
asciilifeform: i dun recall whether trinque mentioned an x test tho.
trinque: recall the "gentoo" repository is still present on the build, though at lower priority than "cuntoo"
trinque: x11 runs fine on musl
mircea_popescu: the one thing gabriel ladel did manage, get phf ranting about cairo, sgi, x, permission models, where the fuxck was it
asciilifeform: then that's a yes
trinque: it'd be appropriate for someone to see what ebuilds are actually required for a sensible x11, and to make a vpatch containing them
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: d00d was quite good in role of the mummy from 'day of the tentacle' ( if anyone recalls, mega-game )
mircea_popescu: it would be, which is why i'm tryna volunteer this guy. hey phf you about ?
mircea_popescu: i recall, puzzle thingee.
asciilifeform: there was a scene where you open sarcophagus with mummy, and monologue to it, and end up with hint
asciilifeform: gl was a++ for this.
mircea_popescu: lol.
mircea_popescu: where the fuck is it god damned it, dood proved succintly he well understands the permission model sanity required by the whole stack and the idiotic breakage later morons introduced and now i can't fucking find it.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure it was triggered by discussion of gpg "security" features, other-windows-can-read-keystrokes, how and wherefore idiots ended up stuffing everything in the top context and it's not really x's fault and so on.
mircea_popescu: but -- lost it is.
mircea_popescu: in short -- i don't merely wish to import x and then end up in bullshit "kde vs gnome" faux "dilemma"s of the femstate ilk. i wish to import x in such a way as to have a sane stack. which is why i wanna saddle phf with it. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-17#1671304 ?? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-17 03:36 phf: see architecturally wayland and x11 couldn't be more different. x11 supports a special network protocol that lets clients from different sources connect to the same instance of x. for example you can have a client from a different user on the same machine or a client from a network source (like over ssh)
mircea_popescu: yes!
mircea_popescu: bless your heart.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-17#1671276 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-17 03:28 phf: sina: could you explain the difference between how keylogger issue manifests in x11 vs. how wayland prevents it, with some technical details?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-17#1671322 <<->> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-17#1671323 <<->> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-17#1671324 is the heart of the matter. ☝︎☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-17 03:44 phf: if you simply load an x app, attach it to root, and start grabbing all the events then you can come to same conclusion as any random chick with a blog "omg all teh events"
a111: Logged on 2017-06-17 03:45 phf: but if you were to actually repeat that same exercise when gnupg pinentry is asking you for password you'll see that it doesn't work
a111: Logged on 2017-06-17 03:45 phf: it still works though when xterm is asking you for password because xterm doesn't know it's a password entry, and doesn't do a grab
trinque: ah I got beat
trinque tips hat to BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: there's no acceptable x-wrappers atm, FOR THIS REASON.
mircea_popescu: (also other reasons, but this is the most cleanly evidently indicative of the braindamage involved)
mircea_popescu: there is ~no point~ in even having graphics if we permit broken interfaces between x and the downstream apps.
mircea_popescu: ( asciilifeform turns out it wasn't even gl! but that sina / herbi fella.)
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, i see today a light log day also...
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894579 << i had a half-baked effort to read & genesis 'ratpoison' -- but currently nfi if anyone aside from asciilifeform uses or even wants to use it. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 20:15 mircea_popescu: in short -- i don't merely wish to import x and then end up in bullshit "kde vs gnome" faux "dilemma"s of the femstate ilk. i wish to import x in such a way as to have a sane stack. which is why i wanna saddle phf with it.
asciilifeform: ftr i won't use any other wm on x, basta.
mircea_popescu: it's certainly worth doing.
mircea_popescu: leaving aside ratpoison, wtf are you gonna do re "browser" ?
asciilifeform: imho yes. it's a c proggy, but a very small 1 -- <100kb src.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i hesitate to point to anyffin as 'yes, browser', atm.
mircea_popescu: on the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894536 boxes i have frozen gtk 2 ; it then permits firefox up to i don't recall, FORTY-something ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-09 19:53 mircea_popescu: i use it to torture girls.
asciilifeform: iirc i got 40 on the x60.
mircea_popescu: (spoiler -- it crashes just as much as the newer ones, damned thing was never stable in its existence)
asciilifeform: it was the only graphical browser that was willing to build itself.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so what is your idea here, "cuntoo comes with gtk 2 and firefox 40" ?!
asciilifeform: it will have to , unless somebody has a surprise up his sleeve
mircea_popescu: yes, well, i wish to hear what that one guy has to say. then we see.
mircea_popescu: the moor, the moor, where is the moor!
asciilifeform bbl,meat