mircea_popescu: note that it is not said "have more WOMAN, as in, have more of the romanian chick at mit who wrote the ai guy's eulogy"

mircea_popescu: (prolly not worth caring to, afaik the only utility of "NN"/"AI" image recognition to date is to recognize films)

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-02-2016#1406244 <<< actually i'm persuaded ai's learning, if actually present, is in principle not translatable to "human terms" ie some readily fih heuristic. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: as a curio - this was a very promising field just about the time of mit ai being a very promising field

mircea_popescu: so that what, the idiot fbheads can click the correct emotional response icon to help the evil ai segment them ?

mircea_popescu: about the dangers of evil ai ?

mircea_popescu: (for one thing : if IT could find the right ones, add that to gossipd and we have essentially built passive autonomous system software, ie, the evil ai.)

mircea_popescu: i think there's fewer people paying their own bloomberg terminal than there's people with a legitimate research interest in ai.

mircea_popescu: "The largest criticisms of Symbolics in the article are that Symbolics believed AI would take off and that Symbolics mistakenly pushed its view that proprietary hardware was the way to go for AI."

mircea_popescu: rather good "ai"

mircea_popescu: "ai", in the sense not of intelligence, but in the sense of "not distinguishable from average human".

mircea_popescu: "And outside the US there were major Lisp efforts, including Cambridge Lisp and Le-Lisp. The humble US grassroots effort did not seek membership from outside the US, and one can safely regard that as a mistake. Frankly, it never occurred to the Common Lisp group that this purely American effort would be of interest outside the US, because very few of the group saw a future in AI that would extend the needs for a standa

mircea_popescu: "The largest criticisms of Symbolics in the article are that Symbolics believed AI would take off and that Symbolics mistakenly pushed its view that proprietary hardware was the way to go for AI."

mircea_popescu: but as far the machine is concerned, there is no difference between sum-sigma and letter-sigma. nor any meaning to any symbol. and so the whole "oh we gotta have universal quantifier as a symbol" is to my eyes an exercise of naming the function "understanding" so as to get ai.

mircea_popescu: ;;google m-ai facut din om neom, cind ma pis ma tin de pom.

mircea_popescu: (in other news, okcupid's "ai" matching system is an utter useless pos. my own network creates usable hits with a 50% probability or better, by the 100s/day - and i didn't even KNOW i know chicks on okcupid in the first place. their crapolade made me click no about five hundred times in a row.)

mircea_popescu: tous les mots doux, les coups de sang... mais dans mes reves, j'y ai droit.

mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> ^ our filipinos! <<< exactly like the mechanical turk of yore, the faux ai scam is still with us.

mircea_popescu: phf the problem with the village of ugly women is that well, there's probably something wrong with the water. yes the people now involved may be subpar for whatever reason or explanation to do with them. maybe. or maybe THIS offshot of the hope to ai is just as rotten as the rest of the various attempts to ai that preceded it.

mircea_popescu: "− Je me dois à la Société, c'est juste, − et j'ai raison. − Vous aussi, vous avez raison, pour aujourd'hui. Au fond, vous ne voyez en votre principe que poésie subjective : votre obstination à regagner le râtelier universitaire, − pardon! − le prouve ! Mais vous finirez toujours comme un satisfait qui n'a rien fait, n'ayant voulu rien faire. Sans compter que votre poésie subjective sera toujours horri

mircea_popescu: nobody needs to actulaly be fooled. just as long as they keep churning out this sort of crud and it's being reacted to, it's really no different from the idiot who "ai"replies to emails and imagines that this imbalance of power with his readership is useful to him

mircea_popescu: te-am vazut, mi-ai placut, ce ramine de facut ? indraznesc sa-ti vorbesc : te iubesc! daca-n ochi m-ai privit si-ai ramas indragostit nu gresesti sa-mi spui ca ma iubesti.

mircea_popescu: J'ai eu tord."

mircea_popescu: "Faisant fi des conseils avisés de nombre d'entre vous, j'ai persévéré avec cette personne, me disant que je dois arrêter d'abandonner juste avant la ligne d'arrivée, ne pas m'arrêter à la première hésitation, penser par moi-même et non par les autres, etc.

mircea_popescu: unsurprisingly, as it's the one bit of ai we actually turn out to need (as opposed to starstrucklingly WANT, a la sussman & co)

mircea_popescu: anyway. the original point ofthings likethe mit ai lab, or the xerox parc, or etc, was that people could grab each other by the tie in the hallway

mircea_popescu: let there be a monotonous measurable system S. let Mi be measurements made at moments-in-time Ti. let average-per-unit-time delta values be reported for each Ti as Ai = (Mi - Mi-1) / (Ti - Ti-1). let an arbitrary "reporting unit" R be defined so that a finite count of Ti fit in each such unit Rj. Let Ais be plainly averaged so that A' = (Ak +...+ Am) / (m-k) where k, m are the first and last i's for Tis fitting in Rj.

mircea_popescu: they were probably the magnum opus of some ambitious intern wanting to be vp / dubious hire a la charles ryan dude implementing ai in java

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285635 << exactly the wrong kind of fucking ai. a) not actually intelligent ; b) negative - the last thing i fucking want to see is mechanically powered women nagging ; c) not self contained - at least the stupid nag you can beat into the ground. ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: because the thing shows some very promising AI in arranging the boxes.

mircea_popescu: [Mirrored from: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/philg/research/shame-and-war.html ]

mircea_popescu: ie, the "bayesian" twerps have it all wrong. it's dumbass to try and protect an inbox with regexp, and especially their halfbaked regexp based ai

mircea_popescu: not that the general problem of "i will now emit a string of bits and you tell me if this is a function" isn't a very interesting ai topic.

mircea_popescu: (these three males) + (belonging to that guy) = ai aceluia ; (this single female) + (belonging to that group of females) = a acelora.

mircea_popescu: so you have the seemingly confounding a/al/ai/ale + acesta/acela aceasta/aceea acestia/aceia acestea/acelea. for a grand total of omfg it's romanian - the gathering!

mircea_popescu: ;;google "N-ai fost acolo s-auzi tot ce-am auzit. N-ai fost acolo sa vezi tot ce am vazut. N-ai fost acolo sa vezi tot ce am facut. N-ai fost acolo sa vezi prin tot ce am trecut."

mircea_popescu: in the end, it was not the ai lab and lisp that provided the best approximation of a computer companion.

mircea_popescu: the "rocks fall, everyone dies" of ai : "write mp emulator"

mircea_popescu: but derived from it, a decent pseudo-AI project would be to make a long list of propositions, sort them in a thousand or so lists (ie blogs) and "publish" "articles".

mircea_popescu: mats i mean i could see it in usage like "e transilvanean de-ai nostri", ie, "he's one of ours". but that's for a minuscule and very culturally coherent ethnic group.

mircea_popescu: i think the point here is more along the lines of AD not AI

mircea_popescu: basically, a video game producer's view of MIT AI lab is "hey, it was a field-sized Daikatana"

mircea_popescu: it is my considered belief that it was SPECIFICALLY the unwarranted delusion that ai is special that ruined it.

mircea_popescu: so no, ai wasn't special.

mircea_popescu: supposedly ai had much brighter minds at its disposal. what made the difference ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's a snippet that will be perhaps insturctive. the ai winter and the vg winter happened almost in tandem. the latter resolved within a year.by the end of the decade vg was WAY ahead of the beginning.

mircea_popescu: where is the mit ai lab ? it was SO respectable in the 60s

mircea_popescu: or even closer to home : ai.

mircea_popescu: ;;google toma caragiu n-ai pe cineva

mircea_popescu: literally, "n-ai pe cineva... ?" ie , "don't you have someone..."

mircea_popescu: inb4 danielpbarron accidentally builds ai